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Title: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 15, 2023, 03:20:24 PM
https://twitter.com/ColdIronStudios/status/1702691147431178407
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Sep 16, 2023, 02:25:57 PM
If it's a single player Alien game, I'm in.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: BenditlikeBeckum on Sep 16, 2023, 02:42:28 PM
If this new game is built upon the same team building, squad tactical, in a semi-realistic sci-fi horror, I'm all in.

 
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Wweyland on Sep 16, 2023, 10:13:53 PM
Would be very happy with Fireteam 2, with new campaigns and updated graphics.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Slutty Badger on Sep 17, 2023, 11:31:51 AM
Ooh, mysterious! Fireteam Elite ended on somewhat of a cliffhanger, so it'd be cool to get a continuation and go to guns with Hyperdyne.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 18, 2023, 07:16:59 AM
While I'm extremely confident this certainly is a new Alien game, if it ends up being a Fireteam 2 I'm a little surprised. I know they had originally planned a lot more extra story content for Fireteam than we've got so it makes some sense they might put that all together for an actual Fireteam 2, rather than more content.

But I'd also love to see something completely new. I know a lot of people have been wanting playable Aliens again so that would be interesting to see return.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Slutty Badger on Sep 18, 2023, 09:34:48 AM
As long as it isn't completely broken on release and actually works *cough* Dark Descent *cough* then great.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Predatorium on Sep 18, 2023, 10:38:45 AM
Dark Descent wasn't broken on release, that's a bit harsh. I played through the entire campaign with only a few bugs and it was great.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 18, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
Yeah, Dark Descent wasn't broken. Some people experienced a bug that stopped a level progression but that was very quickly patched out. Everyone else has been minor.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Sep 18, 2023, 11:14:11 AM
Dark Descent wasn't completely broken, at least on PC. Worked just fine for most people, that's why it has mostly positive reviews. 86% on Steam, while Fireteam has 78%. Fireteam has been out longer, so that isn't fair, but the same then goes for bugs. Fireteam had numerous bugs at launch, floating Aliens going through the floor, the game breaking bug of a stuck Alien that meant you had to restart the whole mission and waste our precious cards. And after a year of being out, when they added crossplay, it worked horribly at first, with so much lag and constant disconnects. And that's more than a year after launch. Now I know why they didn't have that at launch, since they weren't able to implement it well even later.

Both Dark Descent and Fireteam had a lot of bugs at launch and still have bugs. Dark Descent seems to have more problems on consoles for now unfortunately. But both games, on PC at least, were not completely broken on release and are both playable now for most users on PC at least. 
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: BenditlikeBeckum on Sep 18, 2023, 12:12:00 PM
Im wondering what they possibly will do with Mr. Beat and Alphalpha. Asides from maybe ping a spot and have them two fight for the ping spot, maybe allowing you to set their Classes onboard the endeavor? Then maybe they will take on a more dominant role in an offline campaign since classes might be able to offer more gadgets and such.

Either way, like Corp Hicks pointed out, it doesn't make sense to make another Aliens product based on one engine you already own (and so quickly since the release of the other). So chances are it will be a DLC...possibly another paid one and with a full campaign like pathogen if not more than one since they had to make a press release about it.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Wweyland on Sep 18, 2023, 12:18:17 PM
Do we expect an announcement soon?
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Buckchops on Sep 18, 2023, 10:29:19 PM
How about building off of Fireteam and making it sandbox-style like GTA? That'd be hella fun to do in the Aliens universe...especially with vehicles.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Thatguy2068 on Sep 19, 2023, 05:04:34 AM
If it a action/horror game like dead space I'm in
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Thatguy2068 on Sep 20, 2023, 11:42:54 PM
Quote from: BenditlikeBeckum on Sep 18, 2023, 12:12:00 PMIm wondering what they possibly will do with Mr. Beat and Alphalpha. Asides from maybe ping a spot and have them two fight for the ping spot, maybe allowing you to set their Classes onboard the endeavor? Then maybe they will take on a more dominant role in an offline campaign since classes might be able to offer more gadgets and such.
Maybe this and we can set skins for the android, maybe something edgy? PlS I want this skin to be available.
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Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: XenoPredAlien on Sep 22, 2023, 01:41:44 PM
for some reason i always held hope for a synthetic xenomorph as a class in Fireteam i know it will never happen but i could hope lol would love to see what plan they have for Fireteam since now they are giving it some light and would be pretty cool to see what game they have in store hopeful for another Alien game
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Still Collating... on Sep 22, 2023, 02:10:11 PM
I wish them luck and hope they take the mentioned criticisms seriously. There's potential for so much more there. My personal preference is a better and smoother multiplayer experience. More than 3 players, better designed game modes, PvP where you can play as the Aliens, better voice acting, lip-sync, more cinematic and diverse missions in the campaign and less emphasis on the looter shooter style.

I wish for better communication, since their approach is horrible as of now. I hope for new info on the game soon, but I doubt we'll hear anything for a while. Hope to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: BenditlikeBeckum on Sep 22, 2023, 08:42:18 PM
If this is  a way to get our noodles going, its for sure an opportunity to see what the fans would like to see if you'd want to create NEW experiences. So, I for one would have to agree with the other bloke who mentioned a slower paced over the shoulder style ala Dead Space/ The Callisto Protocol. I'm with you on that.

However since this is the Alien franchise I only expect it to be more 'involved' RPG wise maybe like Alan Wake 2's effort is worth looking into. Even Alan Wake2 is a game I want to play even though its not out yet. But if it were in the vein of 1979s Alien or Prometheus timelines with a  blend of AFTE with mechanics of Alan Wake 2, then I would only expect it needs a huge budget. A budget we have only seen with the likes of the Lora Croft franchise or the Last of Us.

I wouldn't mind an expansion of AFTE but if it got more budget for a proper immersive experience then I think it would need an overhaul. I  like the gore elements of Colossal Protocol so it would mean a  tremendous amount of lore being made. I can see that. ALOT. Has anyone seen the Xenomorph serpeant? I really think Rudy should make his tremendous catalogue available to the franchise to develop some things because there is never a dull moment with his work. Its just going to collect dust.

Think of the potential! Some fans are pretty bold when it comes to making the effort. The elegant nature of midjourney is that it is based of several neurological systems of information picked out from a database of ideas called a checkpoint. The acute ideas are very reminiscent of a real brain formulating and creating imagery. What you see here was trained on gigers works of art then slightly tuned into various ideas and by using his photos, new ideas were generated with extremely acute variations of what is already existing in the Giger art world.
What you're seeing is a 'real' human-like dream. a dream only a human can actually comprehend. because like humans, midjourney or SD might only derail ever so slightly because like a human, it has a memory and its only drawing from it in subtle ways to which a neural network is capable of doing. This is called a "neurological simulation of an idea".


But I get the past two games made a tremendous amount of loot for the Disney so I don't see why not.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Schrödinger on Oct 01, 2023, 02:34:59 PM
 +1 to the concept of slower paced game. People seem to forget you can have slow, deadly, and action all three combined (As you mentioned, Dead Space and Callisto Protocol).

  I personally would love for an Aliens game where we go back to the roots of OG Technology since the odd MOBA abilities of AFTE felt out of place (IMO).

 A focus on tactics and resource management in the field either through first or third person would be great (Mainly, I'm thinking of Ready Or Not/SWAT4 style of resource managment/combat.). Granted not in the full on "Simulator" style. But "Grounded".

 A big issue however is AI.  Alien Isolation did a great job with that, I wish that could be expanded on, make the aliens less suicidal and less "Frontal assault only". I'd love to see more ambushes, more flanking, to be surprised by randomness and be pushed to think on the fly.

 Yes I know that would be a genuinely hard game to play if done right.  But I'm of the mind that you can't just melee a full grown Xeno away, and that CQC would be deadly as hell against them. Xenomorphs are also smart, they learn and adapt.

 And finally, an in-depth story with characters we are going to love to lose and choices along the way (IE: What Aliens: Crucible wanted to do before Sega canned it to make room for Colonial Marines.). 

 Yes.. I know I'm asking for a grounded Horror Action FPS with a well written RPG Story.  And I accept that it would take 10 years to make to get right.  But hey, a fan can dream.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 01, 2023, 06:05:36 PM
Aliens: Fireteam was definitely too fast-paced, perhaps they could cut down that down a bit, have some breathing room and atmosphere. Of course that does not fit well with "Grind the level 10 times a day for a level up" mindset, but maybe it shouldn't.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Schrödinger on Oct 02, 2023, 05:46:13 AM
 That and maybe less "Bullet Sponge Combat"...

 Difficulty shouldn't be "Add more HP and give less ammo". It should be "Aliens adapt to how you play and look to outsmart you.

 IE: The movie, Aliens. If frontal assault don't work, time to use vents, ceilings, and floor panels.

 I'm sorry but.. An "Aliens" game shouldn't have Infinity Ammo Boxes, and MOBA Abilities.  There's nothing scary/tense about kiting Xenos while spamming 2 buttons and shooting them in the head for 10 minutes or more. 

 Especially when, yaknow, those things are meant to be faster than humans, how can we kite them? And Melee? Meleeing an Xeno should be a death sentence.

 And making Aliens into a "Grinding" game is... Well, it's a disservice to the title of "Aliens".  I think instead of learning from their "Arcade" version of the franchise, they should look at RoN, in that you fight humans but it's actually tense and outright bonkers at times. If you turned the terrorists into Xenomorphs with really good AI, then you'll have a brutal Aliens game, which is where Aliens: Colonial Marines failed.

 Too much Pew Pew Bullet Sponge = Not tense and just a chore.  Aliens should be tense, deadly, grounded, and gripping.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 02, 2023, 08:01:53 AM
For me, I'd be happy with another 'Alien Isolation' game with a combat element added at relevant points to the story (in the same way that in the movie 'Aliens' the action scenes are paced/apart. I prefer First person as I like to feel I'm experiencing the situation. But I think there should definitely be a multiplayer element done in an 'among us' style, in a variety of scenarios, where each game one player at random is designated 'synthetic' and has to protect the alien /sabotage the mission but other players don't know who it is.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Thatguy2068 on Oct 02, 2023, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 02, 2023, 08:01:53 AMFor me, I'd be happy with another 'Alien Isolation' game with a combat element added at relevant points to the story (in the same way that in the movie 'Aliens' the action scenes are paced/apart. I prefer First person as I like to feel I'm experiencing the situation. But I think there should definitely be a multiplayer element done in an 'among us' style, in a variety of scenarios, where each game one player at random is designated 'synthetic' and has to protect the alien /sabotage the mission but other players don't know who it is.
I would honestly love to see if they implement the Neomorph as a weaker Alien, well they are slightly more easier to kill but they can kill you just as quick. Or as something similar to that...
Spoiler
Belugamorph
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Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 02, 2023, 10:25:39 AM
I felt that Alien Fireteam could have used more "randomness" in its level design.
Meaning objectives and your path could change, to give you are more unique experience in a re-play.
They did this a bit in the first level but dropped it later on.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Slutty Badger on Oct 02, 2023, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 02, 2023, 10:25:39 AMI felt that Alien Fireteam could have used more "randomness" in its level design.
Meaning objectives and your path could change, to give you are more unique experience in a re-play.
They did this a bit in the first level but dropped it later on.

It also happens during the first "Only Way To Be Sure" mission.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 02, 2023, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Oct 02, 2023, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 02, 2023, 10:25:39 AMI felt that Alien Fireteam could have used more "randomness" in its level design.
Meaning objectives and your path could change, to give you are more unique experience in a re-play.
They did this a bit in the first level but dropped it later on.

It also happens during the first "Only Way To Be Sure" mission.
The Queen campaign? I actually did not notice.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Thatguy2068 on Oct 02, 2023, 10:41:04 AM
I think it'll be great if they took inspiration from the Dead Space remake with the ai Director to make things more unpredictable.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Slutty Badger on Oct 02, 2023, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 02, 2023, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Oct 02, 2023, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 02, 2023, 10:25:39 AMI felt that Alien Fireteam could have used more "randomness" in its level design.
Meaning objectives and your path could change, to give you are more unique experience in a re-play.
They did this a bit in the first level but dropped it later on.

It also happens during the first "Only Way To Be Sure" mission.
The Queen campaign? I actually did not notice.

Yep, the "restock turrets" objective can take place in one of two locations. That's really it, though.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Thatguy2068 on Oct 04, 2023, 03:53:48 AM
Which probably will never happen but can we at least get a game mode where we get the play as Xenomorphs. I know we got dead by daylight expansion but maybe we could have something like left 4 dead versus mode
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2023, 03:16:06 PM
It does seem like time to have some playable Aliens back in our games! A lot of people want it.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Thatguy2068 on Oct 04, 2023, 06:02:46 PM
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Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Schrödinger on Oct 08, 2023, 04:16:25 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2023, 03:16:06 PMIt does seem like time to have some playable Aliens back in our games! A lot of people want it.

 We can only hope. But as we all know, what fans want isn't profitable. So don't dare take risks, only make Safe Bets. *Wags the Disney Cane*.
Title: Re: Cold Iron Teases New Alien Game
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 08, 2023, 10:57:00 AM
They will take my money either case, playable Xenomorphs or not.