Was Lambert raped by the Alien?

Started by Ellen Ripley, Nov 02, 2007, 07:42:37 PM

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Was Lambert raped by the Alien? (Read 266,757 times)

SM

SM

#1185
Quote from: MetalAlien on Jul 04, 2024, 05:40:14 PMI'm pretty sure in one of the commentaries they straight up say that Ash is trying to penetrate Ripley because he can't do it in real life.

That was Ridley.  Ash isn't packing downstairs, so he tries to shut the yappy woman up with something phallic.

Local Trouble

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 20, 2024, 06:53:28 PMSM has spoken.  I don't make the rules.

MetalAlien

MetalAlien

#1187
Quote from: SM on Jul 04, 2024, 10:42:14 PM
Quote from: MetalAlien on Jul 04, 2024, 05:40:14 PMI'm pretty sure in one of the commentaries they straight up say that Ash is trying to penetrate Ripley because he can't do it in real life.

That was Ridley.  Ash isn't packing downstairs, so he tries to shut the yappy woman up with something phallic.

SiL

SiL

#1188
This is getting a bit crass.

MetalAlien

MetalAlien

#1189
Well this is the rape thread.


BigDaddyJohn

It's a thread of a question asked about a specific scene, not a rape thread common.

MetalAlien

MetalAlien

#1191
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 05, 2024, 12:51:37 AMIt's a thread of a question asked about a specific scene, not a rape thread common.
Ash was brought up to show a common theme in the first movie which contains the scene that is the subject of this thread... so there's that. The first movie was very rapey. 

SM

SM

#1192
Quote from: SiL on Jul 05, 2024, 12:05:14 AMThis is getting a bit crass.

A bit...

SiL

SiL

#1193
Quote from: MetalAlien on Jul 05, 2024, 12:54:18 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 05, 2024, 12:51:37 AMIt's a thread of a question asked about a specific scene, not a rape thread common.
Ash was brought up to show a common theme in the first movie which contains the scene that is the subject of this thread... so there's that. The first movie was very rapey. 
Yes, but this is not a thread about turning rape into a joke, which is what you're doing. Read the room.

Local Trouble

Quote from: SM on Jul 05, 2024, 12:58:30 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 05, 2024, 12:05:14 AMThis is getting a bit crass.

A bit...

I have rots of crass.

Corporal Hicks

Let's all remember that yes, we are talking about a sensitive subject. Sexual assault is a serious topic and shouldn't be taken lightly. Let's all remember not to make a joke of it.

But also, if SA has effected you and you can't discuss fictional instances of it related to a creature/franchise that embodies it through various subtexts and texts, perhaps it's not the best discussion to get involved with.

PAS

PAS

#1196
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 05, 2024, 08:14:57 AMLet's all remember that yes, we are talking about a sensitive subject. Sexual assault is a serious topic and shouldn't be taken lightly. Let's all remember not to make a joke of it.

But also, if SA has effected you and you can't discuss fictional instances of it related to a creature/franchise that embodies it through various subtexts and texts, perhaps it's not the best discussion to get involved with.
Sorry, but in a topic where we are discussing the meaning of art I would expect to not be antagonized for wanting the subtext to stay as subtext, specially with what the subtext means.
 And I would expect to not see things like this be so casually said.


Quote from: MetalAlien on Jul 04, 2024, 09:52:45 PMI want this thing to go on a raping spree and put on its fancy raping shoes.
Quote from: MetalAlien on Jul 04, 2024, 06:12:20 PMDo not let him shut down the conversation just because rape happens in real life
Quote from: MetalAlien on Jul 05, 2024, 12:48:43 AMWell this is the rape thread.
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Corporal Hicks

Yes, and I've already addressed that in the same note above.

SiL

SiL

#1198
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 05, 2024, 10:31:20 AMSorry, but in a topic where we are discussing the meaning of art I would expect to not be antagonized for wanting the subtext to stay as subtext, specially with what the subtext means.
In a topic where people are discussing the meaning of art, people would also not expect to be antagonised for wanting to expand on subtext.

BeeHooKoo

BeeHooKoo

#1199
Quote from: SiL on Jul 04, 2024, 09:36:00 PM@BeeHooKoo 

You continue to misrepresent what's said to create straw men arguments of people questioning your assertions. If you can't discuss in good faith, please don't bother. Thank you.

@SiL

This is fun. As soon as you are faced with questions that you do not know or dare to answer, you lost marbles and retreat behind the empty words. But hey, don't worry, that replay of yours IS THE ANSWER in itself for many questions :)

If, despite everything, you feel like you want to mix things up, to show what you "know" instead of these empty words, then you can always answer my question regarding the length of the script vs. the length of the unreleased material (for example, Apocalypse now!).

...or if your knowledge of Alien is good as you like to bring up, answer:
- Tell me how many slates numbers are not marked in Rawlings' material?
- What scenes are there in the film that are not marked as filmed in Rawlings' material?
- On which page in Rawlings' material is the Space Jockey chamber described in the script?
- What do the scene marked "Out" in Rawlings' material have in common with the scene filmed September 12-14, 1978?
With this, we can return to the discussion like adults on topic: "how much unpublished Alien material exists".
But, I think it is pointless, because I'm sure that you won't answer these questions...like you didn't answer "Apocalypse Now!" question - everyone can figure out why :)

And I think it's better that you stop stubbornly trolling people. For example you don't lose anything if I research Alien film - or do you? what do you lose if I estimate for example 90min unpublished material out 161 hours my own way?

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