IGN is reporting that Ridley Scott is considering making the upcoming Blade Runner sequel after his next film, The Martian which puts Prometheus 2 back some years. Nothing in the article is definitive or confirmed, it is just noted that Ridley Scott says he thinks he will film Blade Runner next:
“Scott next shoots The Martian with Matt Damon starring so he thinks he will film Blade Runner 2 after that. So where does that leave Prometheus 2?
"That's the problem," the director told EW. "I've got a lot of ducks in a row. But they're all written."
Thanks to Shevvie for the news.
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Quote from: IGNScott praised the draft by Hampton Fancher and Michael Green during a chat with Entertainment Weekly. "It's written and it's damn good," said Scott. "Of course it involves Harrison, who is a survivor after all these years—despite the accident (a joking reference to Ford's Star Wars injury). So yes, that will happen."
So Michael Green is now involved with both Prometheus 2 and Blade Runner 2?
Scott isn't really a sequel kind of guy so wouldn't be surprised if he decides to direct something else after The Martian instead of the Blade Runner and Prometheus sequels.
From the sounds of it this has more to do with Scott's preference to jump straight into production from one film to the next. If a film isn't ready then he'll simply move on to another one on his slate (hence why it's quite a packed slate). He talks about this briefly on the commentary to The Counsellor. Since the script for Blade Runner has been completed for some time, I imagine his previous delays have more to do with Harrison Ford's availability. It's really getting close to a now or never type situation for the Blade Runner sequel, which is why I imagine he's currently lining it up over a Prometheus sequel.
Would be rather ironic if Blade Runner 2 gets a 2019 release date.
Harrison will probably have his schedule full with the new Star Wars trilogy to do Blade Runner 2.
Prometheus 2 will follow The Martian. calling it.
Or he could just let someone else direct the movie. He was all for Carl Rinsch directing Prometheus originally.
Yeah I think you are right.. However we don't know how big of a role he will play in Star Wars, for all we know he will be killed off in the first film!
I'd like him back for P2 but if not then he can add it to the other 100 films he produces each year. David Fincher please
I am more excited for Blade Runner 2 than Prome2. If there is a delay, so be it. Also TEP is right, 2019 would be a awesome release date for BR2! :D
I think I'd rather have a Prometheus sequel than Blade Runner. Prometheus left a lot of its mythology untapped and, while I like it for what it is most of the time, it can can pretty much only go up in terms of quality. Blade Runner, on the other hand, is very much a complete tale and it'd be a shame if they tried to expand on it and not do the original justice.
I'll take Duncan Jones' Blade Runner-inspired Mute over either of 'em, though. I really hope that that project rises from the ashes some day.
Mute would be an awesome flick.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 26, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
Or he could just let someone else direct the movie. He was all for Carl Rinsch directing Prometheus originally.
Given how terrible 47 Ronin was... no thanks. :P
Giger gone, the dissapointment from Prometheus (Lindelof) i really dont think Ridley will do another try.
He is old, lost his brother, had problems with the studio and the Lidnelof involvement i dont think he wants another set back when and if he did Prometheus and it failed.
He wants to be happy and enjoy life and films.
i think the challenge in making these sequels is how they will give them substance rather than just another quasi-blockbuster with nothing bring home. They either go the Aliens (1986) route and fail or possibly reboot everyone's expectations on what it is they are putting out like how they did with Prometheus. Today we would much more anticipate something out of left field rather than be hyped for yet another Marvel cinematic universe pulp block buster with a franchise like Alien it is EASY to f**k up.
I really liked the original concept of an alien prequel, which Scott stated would be very nasty and 18 rated during an interview. The title Alien : Engineers really grabbed me too from watching the Prometheus blu ray extras.Originally i was very excited for a prequel which explored the space jockey and it's link to the xenomorph, i think one of the most unsettling aspects of Alien, is when the camera pans out and we see the whole space jockey fused to it's cockpit, lifeless followed by a powerful creeping score. It's the ambiguity which evoked so much fear in the viewer. Then as the crew finish examining the fossilised creature, the camera lingers on it's face and we can see it's etched in agony, the whole scene was brilliantly realised. Now as we know the whole concept evolved and changed over time, there were rumours of Scott having a difference of opinion with the studio over the budget and 18 rating target audience.Next we learned the idea had evolved into prometheus, focusing on the space jockey alongside the origins of the human race, it all sounded enticingly interesting, with Scott stating "a keen fan will notice strands of Alien dna" in the film, also stating it's not a direct prequel. What we got was a film that deeply divided opinion, looked beautiful, which many believed evoked more questions alongside leaving them unanswered. On a personal level i enjoyed the film, but found the pacing issues and editing caused problems. The drop in size for the engineer and seeing what was cut from the final act on the blu ray i felt let it down too, watching it converse with david is fascinating and unsettling. What i love though is when shaw is hiding, the engineer hears david speaking to shaw through her suit and they come face to face, it's disturbing and fascinating. My point is, yes it's not a masterpiece, however it was left wide open at the end, so there is alot to potentially explore. I have a feeling, fox will let another director have a go and i wouldn't be surprised if either Fincher returned or Aronofsky gets a stab it, with Scott being a consultant and producer. What we need is good solid 18/R rated sci fi akin to the first two Alien movies.
I don't care if there is never another Prometheus film.
Everything they did they could've done without sullying the Alien franchise any further.
Now I'm worried to what he will do to Blade Runner.
You need to be more passionate and stop being so negative.
you need to stop worrying about somebody else's opinions on the franchise GUY.
Being negative dosen't help geezer old boy, i come here and so do other fans because we're passionate and reading from what you put, it's not constructive just trolling.
::)
Because anybody that doesn't have your same opinion is a troll.
Get over yourself. Prometheus was a hair better than AvP. It was much worse than any other Alien standalone installments.
That's MY opinion.
If yours differs then so be it.
Quote from: Wobblyboddle77 on Aug 28, 2014, 05:26:06 AMBeing negative dosen't help geezer old boy, i come here and so do other fans because we're passionate and reading from what you put, it's not constructive just trolling.
How was he trolling?! He just said he didn't like the film!
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 28, 2014, 05:30:20 AMPrometheus was a hair better than AvP. It was much worse than any other Alien standalone installments.
Other than
Prometheus only being slightly better than
AVP (I thought it was
miles better than that trash), I think I might agree with you.
Resurrection is the obvious contender for being worse than
Prometheus, but for all of that movie's faults, I never found myself wishing it would just end so I could leave. By the final act of
Prometheus I'd got so bored and frustrated that leave was exactly what I wanted to do.
The difference between Prometheus and A:R to me is that A:R didn't mess with any of the previous films, it was pretty much stand alone. Prometheus takes the most mysterious bit of Alien and craps all over it.
Prometheus stand alone is an OK/good film, but as part of the Alien series it fails badly. I think I even gave it two ratings in my initial review to reflect that.
Quote from: Xenoscream on Aug 28, 2014, 09:57:24 AMThe difference between Prometheus and A:R to me is that A:R didn't mess with any of the previous films, it was pretty much stand alone. Prometheus takes the most mysterious bit of Alien and craps all over it.
You could argue
Resurrection shat all over the fact that Ripley sacrificed her life to rid the universe of the Alien at the end of the third film...
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 28, 2014, 10:10:30 AM
Quote from: Xenoscream on Aug 28, 2014, 09:57:24 AMThe difference between Prometheus and A:R to me is that A:R didn't mess with any of the previous films, it was pretty much stand alone. Prometheus takes the most mysterious bit of Alien and craps all over it.
You could argue Resurrection shat all over the fact that Ripley sacrificed her life to rid the universe of the Alien at the end of the third film...
Well a bit, however the film does say things like (and this is from memory):
"for all intensive purposes" she succeeded, at least for 200 years, and certainly from WY getting them taking the queen she was carrying back to Earth etc. That's still a worthwhile sacrifice in my book.
Ripley is still dead, the character in the movie is "not her"
And at the end of the film the Aliens are wiped out again which wraps it up
So I guess my point is Alien Res kind of stands alone, while Prometheus says it stands alone but actually alters some of the fundamentals of Alien.
Everyone and their dog knew Ripley's sacrifice was only ever going to be a temporary stalling effort. Another sequel was inevitable.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 28, 2014, 09:46:19 PM
Everyone and their dog knew Ripley's sacrifice was only ever going to be a temporary stalling effort. Another sequel was inevitable.
It was a spinoff in my opinion. A what if and nothing more. On the Prometheus subject, it needs to be given to someone else to free up Ridley for BR 2.
Am I the only person who doesn't particularly want them to make another Blade Runner? The way all these "let's revisit old franchises" movies have gone lately, I have practically zero hope it will be any good.
Ripley's sacrifice remains intact since the only way they could get another Alien was to clone her.
Everybody should give up hope for a jockey revisit, Giger is gone and Ridley isnt up to it by himself.
If another producer will try again then the only result you will get is an Ressurection movie
Quote from: Infected on Aug 29, 2014, 02:37:11 PMEverybody should give up hope for a jockey revisit, Giger is gone and Ridley isnt up to it by himself.
Not counting stuff reused from earlier films, Giger actually didn't do much at all on
Prometheus, just a few murals.
There will be another Prometheus. I just hope it is much better than the original.
I also hold out hope that Prometheus will have a cut like Alien 3's SE.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 29, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: Infected on Aug 29, 2014, 02:37:11 PMEverybody should give up hope for a jockey revisit, Giger is gone and Ridley isnt up to it by himself.
Not counting stuff reused from earlier films, Giger actually didn't do much at all on Prometheus, just a few murals.
Steven Messing did the murals that appear in the film. Giger just did a few sketches of versions of set design, the Deacon, Trilobite and other creatures...
Quote from: Blacklabel on Aug 29, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 29, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: Infected on Aug 29, 2014, 02:37:11 PMEverybody should give up hope for a jockey revisit, Giger is gone and Ridley isnt up to it by himself.
Not counting stuff reused from earlier films, Giger actually didn't do much at all on Prometheus, just a few murals.
Steven Messing did the murals that appear in the film. Giger just did a few sketches of versions of set design, the Deacon, Trilobite and other creatures...
Yes but he brought us the first jockey and Derelict..
Quote from: Jango1201 on Aug 29, 2014, 01:58:54 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 28, 2014, 09:46:19 PM
Everyone and their dog knew Ripley's sacrifice was only ever going to be a temporary stalling effort. Another sequel was inevitable.
It was a spinoff in my opinion. A what if and nothing more. On the Prometheus subject, it needs to be given to someone else to free up Ridley for BR 2.
You consider '
Alien Resurrection' to be a spin-off and not a proper sequel?
Any one else still hoping that Guillermo del Toro will suddenly come in and take the sequel on and make it a real haunted nightmare everyone wants to see?
Or he can just make At the Mountains of Madness, the real haunted nightmare everyone wants to see.
Del Toro is more fantasy monster than horror monster though
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 31, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
Or he can just make At the Mountains of Madness, the real haunted nightmare everyone wants to see.
Yes, but the ending... will it be something like the Bair Witch Project ending?
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 29, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
There will be another Prometheus. I just hope it is much better than the original.
I also hold out hope that Prometheus will have a cut like Alien 3's SE.
A slower and redundant version of Prometheus.
something that makes it more sensical and straightforward.
I think the SE is the best extended/alternate cut of all the Alien movies.
Slower and redundant to me would be the Aliens SE.
??? Big mistake , Prometheus should be first . It has two years since the release of Prometheus , if not done
ASAP . it will end up in the too hard basket and then happens it will never be made .
??? Big mistake , Prometheus should be first . It has two years since the release of Prometheus , if not done
ASAP . it will end up in the too hard basket and then happens it will never be made .
As opposed to the 32 years its been since Blade Runner?
The too hard basket was deep.
Quote from: redalert51 on Sep 10, 2014, 01:31:34 AM??? Big mistake , Prometheus should be first . It has two years since the release of Prometheus , if not done ASAP . it will end up in the too hard basket and then happens it will never be made .
Aliens was seven years after
Alien.
The difference these days is that the main cast usually sign a contract for a two or three picture deal even if there isn't yet any sequels planned at that point in time. If the film does very well the main actors are then contractually obliged to return when the sequel/s are green-lit.
However, the contract usually expires after a set amount of time, typically three years. This can sometimes make it a bit harder to get the original cast back if you dally too long. In the case of Prometheus it's just Rapace and Fassbender but as these two actors are obviously very popular and busy it could possibly cause a delay in getting the sequel made.
The March 2016 rumour returns:
http://www.breathecast.com/articles/prometheus-2-movie-release-date-rumors-spoilers-screenwriter-lindelof-drops-film-launches-march-2016-19866/ (http://www.breathecast.com/articles/prometheus-2-movie-release-date-rumors-spoilers-screenwriter-lindelof-drops-film-launches-march-2016-19866/)
Quote from: Russ on Sep 22, 2014, 01:13:26 PM
The March 2016 rumour returns:
http://www.breathecast.com/articles/prometheus-2-movie-release-date-rumors-spoilers-screenwriter-lindelof-drops-film-launches-march-2016-19866/ (http://www.breathecast.com/articles/prometheus-2-movie-release-date-rumors-spoilers-screenwriter-lindelof-drops-film-launches-march-2016-19866/)
Yeah and Danny Webb is reprising his role of Morse. A most reliable article you have there.
Shilpa must be the work experience kid.
Quote from: tmjhur on Sep 23, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
Yeah and Danny Webb is reprising his role of Morse. A most reliable article you have there.
I'm sorry, I didn't realise it was my job to check the journalist's sources for you.
Quote from: SM on Sep 23, 2014, 12:37:18 AM
Shilpa must be the work experience kid.
Hey, we all have to start somewhere...
If that's their standard of research they can look forward to a long fruitful journalistic career of parroting press releases.
Quote from: SM on Sep 23, 2014, 08:32:06 AM
If that's their standard of research they can look forward to a long fruitful journalistic career of parroting press releases.
Its your enthusiasm I enjoy, SM.
Quote from: Russ on Sep 23, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: tmjhur on Sep 23, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
Yeah and Danny Webb is reprising his role of Morse. A most reliable article you have there.
I'm sorry, I didn't realise it was my job to check the journalist's sources for you.
Apology accepted.
Surely though you can spot an article that's cobbled together from strands of rumours and fake IMDB cast updates no?
Quote from: Russ on Sep 23, 2014, 08:53:00 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 23, 2014, 08:32:06 AM
If that's their standard of research they can look forward to a long fruitful journalistic career of parroting press releases.
Its your enthusiasm I enjoy, SM.
Oh, this is about me now?
Why, thank you!
Quote from: SM on Sep 24, 2014, 01:26:33 AM
Oh, this is about me now?
Why, thank you!
It's always about you, sweetie xx
Quote from: tmjhur on Sep 24, 2014, 01:20:16 AM
Apology accepted.
Surely though you can spot an article that's cobbled together from strands of rumours and fake IMDB cast updates no?
Which is why I posted "The March 2016
rumour returns."
I'd be interested to know how one posts fake IMDB cast updates, though? Can you enlighten me? I thought the IMDB process was pretty arduous in the first place and you have to give provable sources to human administrators before an update is accepted. To my knowledge for a person to have been "rumoured" there still has to have been some contact with them. I think that if you name them as "attached" (but not confirmed) they will appear as rumoured till they're "cast."
At least that's what I thought. But all that's clearly a crock if they can just go round making shit up on the IMDB page. Please let me know how you get round the process to do that? I'm really, genuinely interested.
QuoteIt's always about you, sweetie xx
Not nearly as often as it f**ken well should be.
Quote from: Russ on Sep 24, 2014, 07:49:02 AMI'd be interested to know how one posts fake IMDB cast updates, though? Can you enlighten me? I thought the IMDB process was pretty arduous in the first place and you have to give provable sources to human administrators before an update is accepted. To my knowledge for a person to have been "rumoured" there still has to have been some contact with them. I think that if you name them as "attached" (but not confirmed) they will appear as rumoured till they're "cast."
I dunno if it's the same for cast members, but all the trivia/goofs stuff etc. on there is basically just a wiki, anyone can edit it and add whatever they like. I've no idea if it ever gets checked.
Quote from: SM on Sep 24, 2014, 08:09:58 AM
Not nearly as often as it f**ken well should be.
hahaha - yep, I'm married - I've said the same thing myself in many different contexts *lol*
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 24, 2014, 08:18:52 AM
I dunno if it's the same for cast members, but all the trivia/goofs stuff etc. on there is basically just a wiki, anyone can edit it and add whatever they like. I've no idea if it ever gets checked.
Yeah, for sure. I mean trivia / goofs anyone can add, but "Morse" is listed as rumoured on the cast list - which has to be (I'm guessing) registered by the production company and is administered by them (or a minion). Let's say we want Angelina Jolie, Kate Beckinsale, Rhona Mitra and Scarlett Johannsen to be in Prometheus II. We edit the page and send off our amends - would IMDB just accept the words of Russ and HuDaFuk without checking with ScotFree and post them up there?
I genuinely don't know, but tmjhur is saying that we should surely be able to spot if an article is cobbled together from strands of rumours and fake IMDB entries. I'm wondering how the entry can be fake unless we assume that IMDB just don't bother checking these things and you and I could go on there and merrily add our dream cast to the page and set the internet aflame with fake entries.
My interest in the article above was the date - it was only a few days ago so I was wondering
why it was news again. That said, I've not checked if there are other articles about "Morse" (the other stuff we have heard before of course). But tmjur postulates that its obviously fake - hence my question.
Things that pop up on IMDB that aren't true often get made public quickly and are then debunked by the person concerned or their agent.
100% - If they're in "in talks" and then decide not is one thing. My query really is is it that easy to go and decide we want Angie, Kate, Rhona and Scarlett in P2 and just throw it up there? Or Danny, in this case.
If so, I'm flabbergasted, but I don't know the answer (hence the query *lol*).
I hear what you're saying on debunks - Shatner just said today that he's not part of Trek 3 as was "rumored" but looking on IMDB, he's not listed as cast (no one is for that matter). But as I say, that's not really my point. Tmjur intimates that we should surely be able to spot fake cast updates - I'm wondering how easy that is.
Now - if Danny's potential involvement has come from an official source, that puts a different spin on things.
But if its made up bollocks because Russ and HuDaFuk went on there pissed up and put Danny on the cast list "for a laugh" then colour me amazed - I really thought there'd be some sort of check to stop that sort of thing happening.
Quote from: Russ on Sep 24, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
Yeah, for sure. I mean trivia / goofs anyone can add, but "Morse" is listed as rumoured on the cast list - which has to be (I'm guessing) registered by the production company and is administered by them (or a minion). Let's say we want Angelina Jolie, Kate Beckinsale, Rhona Mitra and Scarlett Johannsen to be in Prometheus II. We edit the page and send off our amends - would IMDB just accept the words of Russ and HuDaFuk without checking with ScotFree and post them up there?
I genuinely don't know, but tmjhur is saying that we should surely be able to spot if an article is cobbled together from strands of rumours and fake IMDB entries. I'm wondering how the entry can be fake unless we assume that IMDB just don't bother checking these things and you and I could go on there and merrily add our dream cast to the page and set the internet aflame with fake entries.
My interest in the article above was the date - it was only a few days ago so I was wondering why it was news again. That said, I've not checked if there are other articles about "Morse" (the other stuff we have heard before of course). But tmjur postulates that its obviously fake - hence my question.
Anyone can add their name or that of another to the credit/cast list and it is usually checked by an admin (takes about a week) before it's published on the page. Otherwise you would end up with hordes of fake resumes on IMDb. They usually require proof such as a payslip or contract and/or they might check with a representative from the relevant production company if the film is still in pre-production. But sometimes things slip through or there is some kind of balls-up or they just don't check up at all.
Amazing! I just googled this to see how long the rumour had been out:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=50027.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=50027.0)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=49193.0# (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=49193.0#)
So its been (as far as I can tell) since 2013?
Lax, IMDB, very lax!
Quote from: Russ on Sep 24, 2014, 11:37:43 AMBut if its made up bollocks because Russ and HuDaFuk went on there pissed up and put Danny on the cast list "for a laugh" then colour me amazed - I really thought there'd be some sort of check to stop that sort of thing happening.
:) You get the beers in, I'll fire up the PC.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 24, 2014, 11:49:21 AM
:) You get the beers in, I'll fire up the PC.
OK, but at the very least, I want Rhona.
But, enough digression from me, I think!
I'm gonna try adding HuDaFuk to the Prometheus 2 cast list just for lulz.
Keep an eye on the page and let me know when it appears. :laugh:
I'm white, so I think I should definitely play Janek's twin brother, Jenak.
:laugh:
I'll make it so.
What are your salary requirements sir?
I'm pretty reasonable.
I'd probably do it for a fancy crew cap with the Wey-Yu logo on it.
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HuDaFuk ... Jenak
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Title: "Prometheus 2" (2016) {Status: Pre-production}
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That's just balls deep in the humor!
HuDaFuk, I gotta hand it to you; if it wasn't for that excellent choice you made when selecting your username... ;D
It's scandalous that you can do that.
Funny.
But scandalous all the same...
http://collider.com/blade-runner-2-director-ridley-scott-2015/#more-373591 (http://collider.com/blade-runner-2-director-ridley-scott-2015/#more-373591)
I really can't see this one working out at all.