Quote from: Scorpio on Jun 10, 2017, 04:35:31 AM
Quote from: DestinyCaptain on Jun 10, 2017, 03:55:06 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Jun 10, 2017, 12:41:19 AM
Main thing is whether you enjoyed the film or not.
And it's clear that many didn't. It's not nitpicking. The issues cited are fundamental flaws in the story and it's execution. This film doesn't not hold up under ANY scrutiny. It starts to fall apart when you think about it.
Maybe you're approaching it from the wrong perspective.
QuoteIt's also not about a slavish devotion to the original films. I think most of us want new stories and are willing to accept them if the writers and the directors take the time and care to execute them intelligently and with respect for their audience. Also, there is a certain expectation of quality as it relates to films that have come before. It feels like these films are getting dumber and lazier on nearly every level each time they come out. That's not a good thing. There ought to be an internal pressure to elevate the material. I just don't know if there is with these, I don't feel it. I certainly don't feel it with respect to Scott.
Wait until we hear the director's commentary, I am sure Scott will explain what he was trying to achieve. I doubt it will change your opinion, as it seems you expected something totally different. But even if I had issues with the script, it wouldn't make me hate the film. All the Alien films have stupid dialogue and unrealistic scenarios, if you break it down. In fact I don't know what movies don't have stupid dialogue and character decisions.
I expected what we got. I hoped they would elevated it beyond what it was. I was resigned to what was in it. I left the movie feeling like "well, that was that".
I then entered into conversations with my daughters. They were extremely disappointed in it. As we talked and I thought more about what I saw, it occurred to me that I really didn't like what I saw and it kept coming apart more and more as we spoke on it.
I also have watched a crap ton of reviews, both positive and negative on the youtubes. I have also listened to about 4 different podcasts - 3 were negative and 1 was positive. Additionally, we have this cast, which I think is very thoughtful in its deconstruction. It's not simply a cacophony of " that sucked" here, It's well measured.
The problems keep rising to the top in the various casts and videos. Most of them aren't even aware of each other. So it's not a feeding frenzy. Several reviewers aren't even aware of this forum or others like it and they are coming to the same conclusions. It's these flaws that are getting in the way of the narrative of film and drawing the viewer out of it.
So, to be clear... I didn't go in planning to hate it. I wanted a good film. I don't think I got it.
To those that enjoyed it, I am sincerely glad you did. That's a great feeling to have when a film works for your or even when a film wins you over that you didn't expect to like. You should defiantly go see it again. Support it is you can. It needs it.