J.W. Rinzler's The Making of Aliens

Started by felix, Sep 16, 2019, 05:18:33 AM

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Corporal Hicks

Same. I'd hope he'd dig up that Newt treatment.

Drukathi

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 24, 2021, 03:03:48 PM
Posting here, since this is the most recently relevant thread:

https://twitter.com/jwrinzler/status/1385972455445909505

For the first time since 1992, Fox showed prudence. I would prefer to skip A3 and AR and go directly to Prometheus/Covenant. Although they have the same probability of creating...

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Gentleman Death on Apr 25, 2021, 06:13:26 AM
Personally I don't get why they wouldn't finish it off with the 3rd and even the 4th...

Even though it would be extremely interesting to most of us, I don't personally believe there would be a large enough audience for it to justify its cost.

Pehaps one way around it could be splitting one book between A3 and AR.

Nightmare Asylum

Alien 3 could probably fill two books in and of itself. :D

Voodoo Magic

 :laugh: indeed.

BlueMarsalis79

Judging by the replies, and the rarity of the Alien Trilogy Special Effects book, and the amount of money the Japanese making of book goes for-

And then let's not forget the ridiculous success of the various adaptations of William Gibson's screenplay.

I think people severely underestimate the popularity of a book on Alien³ itself alone.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Trash Queen on Apr 25, 2021, 04:15:56 PM
Judging by the replies, and the rarity of the Alien Trilogy Special Effects book, and the amount of money the Japanese making of book goes for-

And then let's not forget the ridiculous success of the various adaptations of William Gibson's screenplay.

I think people severely underestimate the popularity of a book on Alien³ itself alone.

Hopefully this conversation won't upset you because I know how passionate you are about Alien³, like I am of Predator 2.

But if we judged by replies, Marvel Comics Alien #1 would not have been the great seller it was. (An Alien Trilogy Special Effects book kind of eliminates itself from the equation for also covering Alien & Aliens.) And the Alien³ Japanese book secondary market price is all about supply versus demand. For instance, the Legendary Encounters Predator Deck Building Game goes for twice to three times as much money as their Alien game, but the Alien game sold more and received expansions while their Predator game did not.

Also, we have to factor in that there's a portion of our very own fanbase that would reject anything other than Alien or Aliens in that quadrilogy.

And I wouldnt go so far to gauge William Gibson's screenplay as a "ridiculous" success, but it all goes to the money spent versus money earned. And novels and comic books are a lot cheaper to cover a production budget than these "Making of" books.

To conclude, I'm really not trying to be a bummer here, but just trying my best to be as realistic as I can. Like I don't think there will be a Predator 2 making of book in my lifetime (which has much less of a chance than an Alien³ book), although I have considered writing one myself a few times. But would a publisher even want it, is the question.

Kradan

Kradan

#262
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 24, 2021, 06:39:17 PM
A making-of Alien3 would arguably be the most interesting making-of for the entire series.

Arguably ?


Quote from: Drukathi on Apr 25, 2021, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 24, 2021, 03:03:48 PM
Posting here, since this is the most recently relevant thread:

https://twitter.com/jwrinzler/status/1385972455445909505

For the first time since 1992, Fox showed prudence. I would prefer to skip A3 and AR and go directly to Prometheus/Covenant. Although they have the same probability of creating...

>:(


Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 25, 2021, 05:25:40 PM
Like I don't think there will be a Predator 2 making of book in my lifetime (which has much less of a chance than an Alien³ book), although I have considered writing one myself a few times.


BlueMarsalis79

I'm not necessarily just talking about the replies in here, I'm more referring to on Twitter every time it gets brought up, as for the Special Effects book although it features Alien and Aliens it's mainly covering Alien³ though and all the images on it pertain to that film specifically.

I don't think we'd get adaptations of William Gibson's screenplay in every commercial medium but film if it did not amount to a particularly noteworthy success.

But in truth I don't know the budgets allocated behind this sort of thing.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 25, 2021, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 25, 2021, 05:25:40 PM
Like I don't think there will be a Predator 2 making of book in my lifetime (which has much less of a chance than an Alien³ book), although I have considered writing one myself a few times.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni/giphy.gif

:laugh:  Maybe. I guess I haven't fully ruled it out yet. Let's see how in depth the Predator Archive is first!

Quote from: Trash Queen on Apr 25, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
I'm not necessarily just talking about the replies in here, I'm more referring to on Twitter every time it gets brought up, as for the Special Effects book although it features Alien and Aliens it's mainly covering Alien³ though and all the images on it pertain to that film specifically.

I don't think we'd get adaptations of William Gibson's screenplay in every commercial medium but film if it did not amount to a particularly noteworthy success.

But in truth I don't know the budgets allocated behind this sort of thing.

I wouldn't personally suggest Twitter as a good metric to judge such matters either. It's always the silent majority that makes or breaks. :)

Xenomrph

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 25, 2021, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 24, 2021, 06:39:17 PM
A making-of Alien3 would arguably be the most interesting making-of for the entire series.

Arguably ?
Given its historically troubled development, absolutely.

Nightmare Asylum

Nightmare Asylum

#266
https://twitter.com/jwrinzler/status/1416820877929291776

This is so incredibly heartbreaking...

HuDaFuK

 :'(

BlueMarsalis79

I do not have the words for how upset this makes me.

Corporal Hicks

I'm really upset to hear too. Going to donate at the end of the month. Every little helps. I've shared on AvPG's FB and Twitter too.

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