Not sure if this has already been posted, but looks like a FEB 6th START
https://productionlist.com/production/alien-romulus/
Hasn't been posted, but definitely lines up with some of what we've been hearing! Thanks for sharing!
I hadn't realised The Martian or Dune shot there too. I wonder if that's a Scott recommendation for Romulus.
Non news for the série ? And please, with the change of Disney's chief, make this films go in theater
Well im excited for more news and stuff
So they really gonna call it Romulus, huh ? I sense Ridley's strong involvement with this one
Love the title.
Always excited for a new Alien movie, but I just hope its good this time lol.
All I know is this will be an insult to H.R. Giger's vision of a perfect organism. Also I care about the robots and black goo now.
Though I'm enthusiastic of this Alien entry and that the series is still going it's disappointing it's to be a television debut like Prey and not a Theatrical release.
I hope there will be Space Jockey / Engineer stuff...and nope...I don't mean black goo. More like ancient ruins 👉👈
I would definitely be all over something like that, but I also worry that it might not be best realized on a smaller budget. Though if the rumors are true, it's still got a sizable budget(75m) compared to AvP/R/Predators.
The Romulus title (working or otherwise) definitely seems to imply some sort of Engineer ruins/architecture to me (in tandem with whatever direct parallels the Romulus/Remus tale has with whatever is going on in the 'present' story), especially given the sort of Roman-influenced aesthetic of their world in Covenant.
Ikr? They were kind of expressing their ideal physical beauty through monuments and art similar to Hellenic or ancient Roman aesthetics. That being said, we already know that real-life Romulus was the legendary founder of the city. I just hope it's not something like a spaceship name. I want subtext!😅
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 21, 2022, 08:53:30 AMI would definitely be all over something like that, but I also worry that it might not be best realized on a smaller budget. Though if the rumors are true, it's still got a sizable budget(75m) compared to AvP/R/Predators.
I am glad to hear that. Especially because of Anderson's pyramid.😅
(https://i.ibb.co/C0p4RwG/Picsart-22-12-21-18-31-04-543.jpg)
The interesting thing is Ridley being taken by the idea enough to re-approach Alvarez some years after his original pitch.
Considering Ridley keeps saying the beast is cooked, there must be some element that could connect to the prequels, and it wouldnt suprise me if Alvarez reworked some elements to ensure he got the gig.
Im sure it will be standalone, but perhaps some subtle connections. Engineer ruins seems plausible enough.
I just hope they go back to basics in the approach and please restore all the biomechanoid elements.
I can't wait for this.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 21, 2022, 11:22:48 PMI just hope it's not something like a spaceship name.
Oh, I'd imagine that Romulus must be the name of the ship as well. ;) But like the Prometheus and the Covenant before it, I'm sure there's a bit more to it than that, thematically.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 21, 2022, 11:53:16 PMplease restore all the biomechanoid elements.
Caley Spaeny posting this (https://i.postimg.cc/c1Ttyswp/319845048-717060876505023-3590258238806513255-n.jpg) as her Instagram story a few days ago definitely has my mind racing a bit in that regard. Almost makes me wonder if it might be referring to the overall aesthetic, since it's a Giger piece but not an
Alien-specific piece just arbitrarily grabbed off of Google.
Anything that has Scott's paws on has me concerned - this working title stinks of him! - but I'll reserve judgment until the execution.
Ridley is also a producer and a businessman.
If he sees an opportunity to keep Alien in the Scott Free stable, he'll take it.
Having a generous but not huge budget bodes well.
I wonder if they will use this location again. Also, I am genuinely curious about potential landscapes that they might use for this one.
(https://i.ibb.co/Lp72Pqr/Screenshot-20221222-154218-Chrome.jpg)
Scott's paws were on 2049 and that turned out beautifully (his visual grammar is everywhere in it). It's down to the scripting.
"Romulus is the outer and larger moon of the main-belt asteroid 87 Sylvia. It follows an almost-circular and close-to-equatorial orbit around the asteroid. In this respect it is similar to the other Sylvian moon Remus."
🤔
Ian Whyte mentioned he has a new project, I hope this is the one, he'll keep working in suits.
It would be great to see him portray the Alien.
Just keep the guy with the android fetish away from the script book.
This definitively looks promising!
I was so bummed and put off by Covenant that I've sort of ignored this franchise for a few years now. I did the same thing after Resurrection. I REALLY hope they can sort of return this franchise to what it was with Alien and Aliens. I'm interested to see what comes of this.
DanielRPK who revealed the working title Romulus has posted more Alien stuff on his Patreon, will ask around people who have possibly subscribed.
Quote from: Gimitko on Dec 29, 2022, 05:07:59 PMDanielRPK who revealed the working title Romulus has posted more Alien stuff on his Patreon, will ask around people who have possibly subscribed.
Hmmm, can't seem to find any of it spilling onto Twitter yet (maybe I'm just searching the wrong key words?). Will keep an eye out...
I talked to someone subscribed, but the Alien post in particular is for higher tier members, which is weird because none of his other scoops are. Must be really hot stuff lol. The info will probably be revealed elsewhere soon.
Yep, just found his Patreon, looks like it's behind his $5 tier.
No way I'm subscribing to that, so I'm really hoping someone posts it soon...
the movie title will be:
Alien: Renaissance
Is that legit the update he posted, Hoffman?
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Dec 30, 2022, 07:33:43 AMthe movie title will be:
Alien: Renaissance
No idea where this is stemming from, can't find anything anywhere referring to it as "Renaissance," but if there's any inkling of truth here, there's some potential for thematic overlap with "Romulus," what with the Renaissance period's revival of certain ideas/concepts from the ancient Rome that Romulus had supposedly founded.
Maybe we might be seeing extraterrestrial sites (or, perhaps, human sites) built atop the ruins of far more ancient extraterrestrial sites from a long-past era, perhaps?
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Dec 30, 2022, 07:33:43 AMthe movie title will be:
Alien: Renaissance
I thought it was an edgy way of saying Alien: Resurrection. 😅
Filming should be beginning today! :)
Exciting times! Cannot wait to see what we learn, if anything, over the coming weeks.
Even though we have no idea how good or bad the final product will be, it's always so exciting when a new Alien/Predator project starts production.
Can't wait to hear and see more of it!
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Dec 30, 2022, 07:33:43 AMthe movie title will be:
Alien: Renaissance
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I'm so excited. Love the talent involved. I just wish this could get some kind of theatrical release.
This is the delicious stage where speculations begin based on the material they are releasing! Long gone are the days of wild traffic in the lead up to AVP Requiem's release, as was the enthusiasm for Scott's then mysterious 'not so prequel' prequel. ;D👉👈
I'm still looking forward to it! I love being a fan of Alien / Predator.👏8)
Interested to see where this goes. Prometheus is still my favourite "modern" Alien movie.
Exciting times to have a new Alien film on the horizon!
The anticipation and counting the days are gonna be torturous lol
I think it's safe to say this movie has not started principal photography yet.
Why? Because there haven't been any leaks?
It's not about leaks. They have not released in the trades the name of a single person working on it, cast or crew. That's not shooting in secrecy. That's not shooting at all. At least not yet.
I forget, was anything formally announced when Prey started shooting? I wasn't following that one nearly as closely as I am Romulus, but I seem to recall most information regarding production crew, additional casting, etc. spilling out on Instagram over the course of the shoot.
I think we might have known Amber Midthunder and that's about it when production started, which is about on par with this. Cailee Spaeny's name was officially in the trades a couple months back.
Only time will really tell, of course, but it seems like these Hulu originals do shoot a bit under the radar, at least in comparison to other films coming from 20th Century Studios that are aiming for a wider, theatrical release.
Such a shame Alien and Predator going straight to Hulu they deserve theatrical
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2023, 12:59:14 PMI forget, was anything formally announced when Prey started shooting? I wasn't following that one nearly as closely as I am Romulus, but I seem to recall most information regarding production crew, additional casting, etc. spilling out on Instagram over the course of the shoot.
No, we didn't really get anything to announce shooting. It was a very quiet production, and I was expecting the same for Romulus. Seems like the Hulu productions just aren't going to make as much noise for us all to discuss.
Quote from: Whos_Nick on Feb 09, 2023, 10:38:34 PMSuch a shame Alien and Predator going straight to Hulu they deserve theatrical
As long as they're as good as Prey was, I don't mind as much. I'd prefer they get up on the big screen, but as long as they're quality in the end, that's fine by me.
Yeah, lots of movies film without announcement or set photos.
A different country and culture, but the new Japanese Godzilla movie has been in post production for a while now, with a release in November of this year. Not a set photo or leak has been revealed officially. There's some rumblings and rumors, but everything is tight lipped.
That's the best way to do it in my opinion. Makes the actual viewing of the film more rewarding when you don't know the plot, designs or what's coming. Kinda like how it used to be before the internet days. Though speculating on all the bits we get is always fun too.
Quote from: Whos_Nick on Feb 09, 2023, 10:38:34 PMSuch a shame Alien and Predator going straight to Hulu they deserve theatrical
Does that mean Disney+ will get them as ?
Quote from: Mala'kak on Feb 12, 2023, 06:50:46 PMQuote from: Whos_Nick on Feb 09, 2023, 10:38:34 PMSuch a shame Alien and Predator going straight to Hulu they deserve theatrical
Does that mean Disney+ will get them as ?
Outside of America, yes.
0_0 but disney + for kids!
There movies with deleted blood
(Like marvel tv from netflix)
How they make in prey prometheus or covenant? Ha ha?
They have a section called Star which has all their R rated material. None of the movies are censored.
Do you think the movie is actually shooting now?
Quote from: David on Feb 15, 2023, 05:16:33 PMDo you think the movie is actually shooting now?
If this local crew account is to be believed, yes.
QuoteGood news for Alien fans! 👾 Today, with two day delay, today's started the shooting of Alien: Romulus (working title) in Budapest, Hungary 🇭🇺 The movie is directed by Fede Alvarez #alien #alienmovie #newmovie #budapest #hungary
QuoteDuring the new Alien movie's filming, remember how are made the VFX effects in Alien: Covenant 👾 #alien #alienmovie #newmovie #budapest #hungary
The account also posted this odd fanmade teaser for some reason... Anyone know the source of this thing?
QuoteHard work 😓 nonstop shooting of Alien: Romulus in Budapest, Hungary 🇭🇺 the first week always is the hardest and with almost no sleeping time 👾 #alien #alienmovie #newmovie #budapest #hungary
EDIT: Found the original upload of the fanmade teaser:
But anyways, yeah, if that guy's account is to be believed, it seems like production is indeed underway, and has been for a week now.
That is a good news. Thanx for your answer.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 15, 2023, 06:04:08 PMEDIT: Found the original upload of the fanmade teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2lDxyAy8gs
But anyways, yeah, if that guy's account is to be believed, it seems like production is indeed underway, and has been for a week now.
That fan-made trailer made use of this animation by David Weinstock.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/d8dAAW
Found an audition for Romulus on Vimeo, spoilers ahead:
https://vimeo.com/798636064
The audition is for Bjorn, it also reveals characters Rain (gender unclear) who considers an android named Andy their brother, because Andy belonged to Rains father. Bjorn doesnt buy Andys personhood and connection to Rain, calling Andy "WY damaged goods your dad used to own". Bjorns dad is also dying from a disease "everyone is dying" from and some hailstorm is related to that but I dont fully understand whats being said. Gonna leave the rest to you.
If this tracks, then it seems like the characters will be a salvage team poking around an abandoned ship.
Funny it actually sounds similar to the Noah Hawley stuff, an adopted synthetic sibling.
Why's it all sideways though?
https://twitter.com/zsuzsanna_virag/status/1625169298795773964
If they're going to be using this tech here, hopefully it is used well enough that it looks a bit more The Batman and a bit less Thor: Love and Thunder.
I know this deleted moment from Dune was shot using that screen, but (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think anything that actually made it into the film was.
The Mandalorian has been pretty hit or miss with its use of the Volume. Sometimes you get really great visuals there as a result but I also often feel a bit disconnect between the subject in the foreground and the digital wall backdrop, likely because of how harshly the main subject has to be lit in the foreground.
Isabela Merced joins the cast.
https://deadline.com/2023/03/isabela-merced-cailee-spaeny-alien-20th-century-scott-free-1235277125/
Looks like we finally have our first unofficial photo from the Alien: Romulus set. Taken outside the soundstage:
Spoiler
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;D
Apparently filming starts March 9th now, according to The Wrap (https://www.thewrap.com/fede-alvarez-alien-movie-starts-filming-in-march/) and Deadline (https://deadline.com/2023/03/new-alien-movie-adds-archie-renaux-three-others-1235278403/). I figured there might've been a slight delay with all these casting reveals and no info leaking from the set. Even Prey which was very tight on the leaks had a few here and there.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 03, 2023, 06:32:33 PMLooks like we finally have our first unofficial photo from the Alien: Romulus set. Taken outside the soundstage:
Spoiler
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;D
You bloody hack !
As long as these characters are nuanced and developed and not teen/preteen "saved by the bell vs alien" I'll be happy.
Hmm not sure if these could be compelling characters of obnoxious grating choice slasher teens, hope it's the latter, all being well the performances are good and the story delivers. Here's hoping.
QuoteGrilled some Uruguayan meat for my filming crew! They need the energy for the big task ahead! #asado #bbq #Alien
Hmm.. very reminiscent of Aliens: Wraith
I... what?
Sounds like all these teen dramas with the maze and the hungry thing.
Goonies in space.
Quote from: Chieftain Suom on Mar 05, 2023, 06:54:26 PMHmm.. very reminiscent of Aliens: Wraith
I forgot all about this one till you mentioned it. Who is going to play the Marine that shoots all the survivors?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 05, 2023, 05:29:29 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cpag-gDISxU/
QuoteGrilled some Uruguayan meat for my filming crew! They need the energy for the big task ahead! #asado #bbq #Alien
That sure is a lot of weiners.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 05, 2023, 11:17:39 PMQuote from: Chieftain Suom on Mar 05, 2023, 06:54:26 PMHmm.. very reminiscent of Aliens: Wraith
I forgot all about this one till you mentioned it. Who is going to play the Marine that shoots all the survivors?
I don't know, but they could definitely expand on that short story!
of the one shots that weren't special length like Salvation and Sacrifice, I think my favorite was Glass Corridor.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 05, 2023, 05:29:29 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cpag-gDISxU/
QuoteGrilled some Uruguayan meat for my filming crew! They need the energy for the big task ahead! #asado #bbq #Alien
Things are heating up!
Out. Just get out.
the studio did reveal that the film will follow "a group of young people on a distant world, who find themselves in a confrontation with the most terrifying life form in the universe."
SERIOUSLY? 😅😅😅😅😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"they" have arrived .....Star wars...Matrix....and now US.
Please somebody "WAKE" me up from this Gibberish....
Getting a childs play vibe with the droid and IT feel with the teens
Quote from: Renato on Mar 06, 2023, 03:21:19 PMthe studio did reveal that the film will follow "a group of young people on a distant world, who find themselves in a confrontation with the most terrifying life form in the universe."
SERIOUSLY? 😅😅😅😅😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"they" have arrived .....Star wars...Matrix....and now US.
Please somebody "WAKE" me up from this Gibberish....
Ah yes, the dreaded third parties swooping in and messing with, checks notes,
Matrix which has been a Wachowski joint from first to last installment and
Alien which Ridley is is still involved with and producing.
*Classic slasher setup*
THIS is WOKE!
Are these "young people" terraformers or what?
Quote from: T Dog on Mar 06, 2023, 07:57:32 PMAre these "young people" terraformers or what?
Second gen, probably. The children of terraformers that originally settled on whatever world this is, if I had to guess.
But, as with pretty much everything else involving this movie, we really have pretty much no idea on anything specific and are mostly just in the "baseless rampant speculation" phase of the hype period right now.
Why does Ridley have to be a part of any Alien things anymore? Serious question.
Quote from: Missing on Mar 06, 2023, 09:31:28 PMWhy does Ridley have to be a part of any Alien things anymore? Serious question.
Cause he's the Gov init!
Quote from: Missing on Mar 06, 2023, 09:31:28 PMWhy does Ridley have to be a part of any Alien things anymore? Serious question.
Because Fede presented the Alien project years ago and froze ( paralized) and Scott called Fede months ago and gave him the green light.
This movie is being made thanks to Scott.
In Aliens serie of Noah H to Fx/Hulo Scott is not implicaded.
Quote from: Missing on Mar 06, 2023, 09:31:28 PMWhy does Ridley have to be a part of any Alien things anymore? Serious question.
That is a question you and me both will always wonder about.
Quote from: RIP77 on Mar 06, 2023, 11:59:52 PMQuote from: Missing on Mar 06, 2023, 09:31:28 PMWhy does Ridley have to be a part of any Alien things anymore? Serious question.
Because Fede presented the Alien project years ago and froze ( paralized) and Scott called Fede months ago and gave him the green light.
This movie is being made thanks to Scott.
In Aliens serie of Noah H to Fx/Hulo Scott is not implicaded.
Scott is also producing the Noah Hawley series.
Having Scott's name attached to these products lends them a certain prestige. Aside from being a bona fide legend, people see Scott's name and they connect it to the original film.
In reality, he might have virtually nothing to do with the project but just sticking his name on it, already sells it.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 07, 2023, 09:20:23 AMQuote from: RIP77 on Mar 06, 2023, 11:59:52 PMQuote from: Missing on Mar 06, 2023, 09:31:28 PMWhy does Ridley have to be a part of any Alien things anymore? Serious question.
Because Fede presented the Alien project years ago and froze ( paralized) and Scott called Fede months ago and gave him the green light.
This movie is being made thanks to Scott.
In Aliens serie of Noah H to Fx/Hulo Scott is not implicaded.
Scott is also producing the Noah Hawley series.
Having Scott's name attached to these products lends them a certain prestige. Aside from being a bona fide legend, people see Scott's name and they connect it to the original film.
In reality, he might have virtually nothing to do with the project but just sticking his name on it, already sells it.
It makes it more interesting that he shot down Neil Blomkamp's fan nerd wank movie then!
Makes him unbelievably based.
Quote from: T Dog on Mar 07, 2023, 09:36:12 AMIt makes it more interesting that he shot down Neil Blomkamp's fan nerd wank movie then!
Yeah, he was originally attached to produce but perhaps he wasn't too keen on the script. ;D
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 07, 2023, 09:49:53 AMQuote from: T Dog on Mar 07, 2023, 09:36:12 AMIt makes it more interesting that he shot down Neil Blomkamp's fan nerd wank movie then!
Yeah, he was originally attached to produce but perhaps he wasn't too keen on the script. ;D
Perhaps he saw Chappie (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/21/neill-blomkamp-interview-demonic-chappie-alien).
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 07, 2023, 11:52:25 AMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 07, 2023, 09:49:53 AMQuote from: T Dog on Mar 07, 2023, 09:36:12 AMIt makes it more interesting that he shot down Neil Blomkamp's fan nerd wank movie then!
Yeah, he was originally attached to produce but perhaps he wasn't too keen on the script. ;D
Perhaps he saw Chappie (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/21/neill-blomkamp-interview-demonic-chappie-alien).
I think it was a mix of the studio getting cold feet after Chappie came out and Ridley not wanting to water down the franchise with another Alien movie coming out close to Covenant.
It was because Scott was going to shoot Prometheus 2 alone.
He talked to Neil about rewriting the script and he got the green light from Fox. Neill said so publicly.
Then Scott moved Prometheus 2 to Alien: Covenant and new deal with Fox with a new Alien Prequel trilogy after Prometheus3/Covenant2 to close out his trilogy.
Scott publicly explained the switch from Prometheus 2 to Covenant to introduce the Alien he didn't want in Prometheus 2 but then Fox talked him into it.
Scott esplained Alien is comercial, public want Alien And he also explained that there would be a new trilogy and the last one would be a 100% prequel to Alien79.
But only director in 1ª new trilogy no in rest becose Alien bored and no did want make prequel 100%
That's why he rewrote the Alien script: Engineers to Prometheus in 2011 to remove the Alien and make a science fiction film away from Alien and his lore.
Scott accepted the Alien in Covenant because Prometheus divided between the public and Fox agreed not to put Alien in Prometheus even though it was in the original script but did not accept the same in the sequel. Scott speak it in interviews.
Those plans caused Neill's Alien 5 to be canceled as Scott didn't want another Alien before a new trilogy. And the failure of Covenant canceled the final plan of the trilogy Scott and new trilogy.
Happy March 9th Eve. 8) Filming should be kicking off tomorrow!
as long as the monster rips them all to pieces.... i don't care how old they are ;D ;D ;D ;D
Even see 5-year-olds die for an Alien? ;D
hey... i'm one of the good guys... ;)
but i think the alien doesn't care how old his victim is...well yeah, even a five year old isn't safe from the monster
think about the colonists in aliens or the kid in AvP-R
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 08, 2023, 08:02:31 PMHappy March 9th Eve. 8) Filming should be kicking off tomorrow!
Probably won't be much "unofficial" photos or news if they are filming everything inside Origo Studios.
With Covenant we had set photos at Millford Sound within a couple of days.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 07, 2023, 11:52:25 AMsaw Chappie (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/21/neill-blomkamp-interview-demonic-chappie-alien).
Maybe he should've watched Girl with Dragon Tattoo reboot if Chappie was the reason. Chappie is a better movie and still did better at box office.
Quote from: RIP77 on Mar 07, 2023, 12:29:16 PMScott publicly explained the switch from Prometheus 2 to Covenant to introduce the Alien he didn't want in Prometheus 2 but then Fox talked him into it.
Scott esplained Alien is comercial, public want Alien And he also explained that there would be a new trilogy and the last one would be a 100% prequel to Alien79.
But only director in 1ª new trilogy no in rest becose Alien bored and no did want make prequel 100%
That's why he rewrote the Alien script: Engineers to Prometheus in 2011 to remove the Alien and make a science fiction film away from Alien and his lore.
Scott accepted the Alien in Covenant because Prometheus divided between the public and Fox agreed not to put Alien in Prometheus even though it was in the original script but did not accept the same in the sequel. Scott speak it in interviews.
Alien is not the reason Prometheus sequel became Covenant. Xenomorph could've easily been in Prometheus sequel, it doesn't contradict the original plan at all. Alien has nothing to do with turning Paradise from epic planet of gods with alien flora, animals and biomechanical cities into cheap New Zeland forrest with some village near it. Alien has nothing to do with killing Shaw off screen and replacing her with much worse new characters. And Alien has nothing to do with removing engineers from the story completely. It was just Ridley losing interest in the project and Fox wanting a slasher flick instead of good movie.
....
It was just Ridley losing interest in the project
Fault of Fox. Scott submissive thinking more as a producer than a director.
Fox spent more than 10 years convincing Scott for a direct Alien prequel.
Fox wanted Prometheus 1 with Alien and was disappointed but they trusted Scott ( Productors tell in 2012 that there would be no Alien now and it would not be a direct prequel BUT one day I would make a prequel direct).
Fox wanted that in Covenant and new trilogy prequels after Prometheus2/covenant and sequel Awakening ( new trilogy is a Prequel direct in planet Alien79 but only productor NOT director in last movie of new trilogy, last movie prequel direct 100%) .
Scott didn't want to.
Scott want Prometheus 2.
Scott in interviews about Prometheus 2 (before being Covenant) said that they would move away from the ALL of Alien. More than Prometheus ( original Script with Alien and planet of Alien79 but Scott dont want).
Fox wanted Alien/terror/ slasher after public division on Prometheus, Fox want more boxoffice than 400( budget 130+marketing 100). Fox Want new protagonist and less engineers, less filosofy, more action. Shaw is Prometheus. Fox desconcert with Prometheus and division audience. New protagonist like Weaver = more like Alien.Alien/weaver more in Covenant with new character.
Scott love engineers , love Promethues, David8 and script Prometheus 2 remove Alien equal in movie Prometheus.
That's why he order to rewrite the first script Prometheus to remove Alien. ( I Read script Alien:Engineers in internet, Covenant is more sequel of this script than sequel Prometheus).
And I didn't want to introduce the Alien in Prometheus 2 after deleting it in Prometheus.
Scott explain BEFORE born Covenant movie , he no want Alien in Prometheus 2 in script( tell in 2013, I read interviews). Before of rewritten Prometheus 2 to Alien Covenant it says.
Later, before the premiere, he said that he put in the Alien because the public requested.Scott changue speech on Alien in 2014 or 2015. Before , in 2013 NOT ALIEN. After in 2014 ,YES ALIEN.
After the premiere he said it was a mistake. That the Alien was worn out.
The presidenta of Fox said that it was a mistake to introduce Alien believing that it would do better at the box office than Prometheus.
Covenant is more commercial, more Alien, more terror, more Fox.Covenant is two movies. Prometheus 2 meet Alien. Movie Scott and movie studio.
Prometheus 2 was more Scott, more engineers, with the Prometheus movie formula even further from Alien. Confirmed by Scott before transforming her into the Alien Covenant and changing his speech to speak well of the Alien.
Alien not plan in Prometheus 1 and 2 becose in original script ( Alien:Ingenieros ) Scott dont like with Alien and rewrite. BUT origin Alien with David8 is posibility but not in terror/Alien movie like Covenant. Scott not want Alien/ mitology in Prometheus 2, ir says in 2013.
Again, it's both Ridley's and Fox's fault. Ridley lost interest in the project by the time he started the principal photography, at that point he didn't want to do Prometheus 2 either, but he had to do it to fulfill the contract he signed, Covenant is actually the reason he had to leave the director's chair of Blade Runner 2049. And Fox just wanted a lower budget slasher flick with Alien. But xenomorph is not the reason Prometheus sequel was killed because it's increadibly easy to add it without changing the original plot, all the changes they did to the story, characters and design have nothing to do with xenomorph.
Alien is more than monster is style. Is more comercial.
Reason is division audience in Prometheus not Alien. But Alien es more comercial and Fox want movie more comercial.
Fox want style Weaver in new character, in genre terror ... and Alien is all. Prmetheus 2 no is.
Changued in Prometheus 2 are more style Alien. charecter pirncipal, genre and monster.Fox dont want Shaw becose want new Weaver. Fox tell less engineers.Changued in Prometheus 2 for auidience division Prometheus. 50% love 50% hate.
Alien in Prometheus 2 is different than in Covenant becose is other style.
Scott not want Alien in Prometheus 2 but do or dont Prometheus 2 is differenct in style than Covenant.Scott dont want movie terror scream.
Scott love Prometheus 2, no style Covenant, no Alien. Scott bored Alien in 2013, he says.
Alien in Prometheus 2 is posibble but Fox want more, style different, new tone. Scott sad and make movie no passion.
BR2049 director Scott but no make for Covenant and Scott sad, yes. But Scott wanrt Prometheus 2 style , not comercial movie Alien Covenant. Scott no want make Covenant but yes Prometheus 2 but after BR2049.
Scott tries to satisfy with Prometheus fans and Alien fans and Fox studio.
Scott is responsability too but Fox is idiot.let Scott shoot Prometheus 2 which he likes better than Covenant and he'll do it better.
Alien Covenant was so commercial it did almost twice less than Prometheus :)
Fox and Scott thought so. After Fox president say that it was a mistake to believe that with the Alien they would do more at the box office. Covenant more terror, blood, Alien, action. Is more comercial.
There are more commercial sequels that do less at the box office too. Not only Covenant.
Covenant taste less but it also did less at the box office due to the division of the public of Prometheus. Fox was afraid that Prometheus 2 would do less at the box office without Alien. Prometheus was The Last Jedi in discussions, division public.
Covenant was made for the Prometheus new fan and the Alien fan and it pissed off the Prometheus fan and the Alien fan.
The box office was lower for that reason and because the impact of a new Alien after Prometheus ( Alien Resurrection Prometheus 16 years ago .. Covenant 4 years after , is event more small in public potencial less , less time , ) was lost, which, although without Alien, reached the old fan and the new one. Covenant premieres before Prometheus Made 500 or more but after Prometheus... public renegade , others like me, very fan. Divison public Prometheus determinant in saga for Fox/Scott.
Prometheus definitely wasn't The Last Jedi because it still has the best reception in the franchise after Aliens, so if it's The Last Jedi, then what was Alien 3, Resurrection and AvPs, Rise of Skywalker? :) Most of Prometheus real complaints (not vague "where's xenomorph" or "where's answers") were about glaringly dumb characters and logic gaps, something that could be fixed with one script pass, but you could see that people wanted to see where it's going unlike Star Wars, how could you not to since it had maybe the best the most ambitious setup for a sequel in any movie ever. A good Prometheus sequel would at least match Prometheus box office, a great one could go beyond that, trailer alone could look mind-blowing with revolutionary visuals never seen before on a big screen. Plus Covenant was sold as a slasher flick and had staying power of one, Prometheus was sold as an event film and looked like one. Selling Covenant as a slasher was the dumbest decision ever, event films always do more money and attract bigger audience. Covenant wouldn't have done 500 mln if it was released instead of Prometheus for the same reasons, it's a much worse movie and it had much worse marketing campaign.
All of the dumb characters and logic gaps were actually fine in the earlier drafts. They made it worse as they went along, and then worse again in the editing.
Prometheus played heavily on "Ridley Scott is back doing sci-fi!", and that was enough to drive massive amounts of people to see the movie. Then people were disappointed with it, and the word of mouth was consistently negative. There were no Aliens, the characters were idiots, etc. Ridley being back wasn't necessarily a good thing.
Covenant was on the back foot from the get-go.
finally someone who can sum up the problems with prometheus. just like to add the aftermath of lost as lindeloff involvement was blamed on scott. i still believe scott was forced by fox to lindelize the whole thing as lost was a huge financial success for fox.
maybe i am wrong.
also someone not knowing the influence and story line of both the book version and movie version of 2001 a space odyssey and its sequel 2010 is going to have a hard time making sense of alien prometheus and covenant.
required reading and viewing as far as i am concerned.
it explains the ai gone roque and external hand in that to destroy mankind.
m2c's
Quote from: SiL on Mar 10, 2023, 07:56:37 AMAll of the dumb characters and logic gaps were actually fine in the earlier drafts. They made it worse as they went along, and then worse again in the editing.
Prometheus played heavily on "Ridley Scott is back doing sci-fi!", and that was enough to drive massive amounts of people to see the movie. Then people were disappointed with it, and the word of mouth was consistently negative. There were no Aliens, the characters were idiots, etc. Ridley being back wasn't necessarily a good thing.
Covenant was on the back foot from the get-go.
That's true, even Lindelof's revision had less dumb moments than the final film, so maybe it was Ridley's fault.
WOM was mixed, but I wouldn't say it was outright negative. The problem is Covenant didn't look good to begin with, I was a bit concerned when the first trailer was released, so it didn't help either.
well, not a single alien movie has ever been a real flop.
they've all played enough to keep going.
Halloween 2018 was celebrated as a hit, while everyone was talking about Covenant as a flop and that people are probably no longer interested in the creature alien.
It is interesting that both films had worldwide recorded almost the same . only Halloween 2018 was much cheaper in production costs, which is why the net profit was also much higher than Covenant. however, audience interest was about the same for both films.
in almost every film there is always a passage that is illogical or even stupid. say what you want, except for a few really stupid scenes, prometheus and covenant are still masterpieces.
The Last Jedi excelents reviews in rottentomatoes with 90% profesionals. But division in public.
Prometheus 70% in Rottentomatoes but division in public.
My comparation is only in division public. And sequels do loser fans in boxoffice in Covenant and Episode IX.
But Covenant and IX are bad films than VIII or Prometheus.
But Prometheus is polemican film in premiere but 16 years ago since Alien 4 is very long time to return fans and forgiven for Alien4 . Promethues premiere in 2000 and less boxoffice than 400 yes or yes. Alien 4 was very polemic and reviews bads. Promethers for me resucite saga Alien.
Moment premiere is important. Covenant in 2013 more boxoffice tan 250. a lot of time since 1997. But in 2017 few time since Promethues. Fox and Scott have fear reaction fot boxoffice. Says it. Covenant return Alien for fear. Prometheus 130+100 marketing = 230x2= 460. Exit moderate with reviews 70% and public division.
I fan Prometheus but is hate and love for people and Fox/Scott says it and Covenant is un intento de hacer feliz a todos. Frankestein movie .it doesn't work like prometheus 2 nor like new Alien
It wasn't outright negative, but it was negative enough to warrant a lower budget and Scott to rethink his plan.
No, he could get at least Prometheus budget if he wanted to. And he had higher budget on Covenant than he actually spent on it, by his own words. What made him rethink his plan is simply losing interest completely in the project, if he actually cared so much about negative part of Prometheus buzz, he wouldn't have spent at least 2 years to develop Prometheus sequel, it would've been Covenant from the get-go.
at that stage they wrote 15 drafts for covenant. as was the case with alien 3(13 scripts) they really werent sure where to go.
Quote from: Neila on Mar 10, 2023, 10:49:59 AMwell, not a single alien movie has ever been a real flop.
they've all played enough to keep going.
Halloween 2018 was celebrated as a hit, while everyone was talking about Covenant as a flop and that people are probably no longer interested in the creature alien.
It is interesting that both films had worldwide recorded almost the same . only Halloween 2018 was much cheaper in production costs, which is why the net profit was also much higher than Covenant. however, audience interest was about the same for both films.
Halloween and Alien are in different leagues entirely and can't be compared. Halloween did great for its franchise, genre and budget. Covenant had a massive drop from its predecessor, even worse reception and terrible legs.
Quote from: oduodu on Mar 10, 2023, 12:57:18 PMat that stage they wrote 15 drafts for covenant. as was the case with alien 3(13 scripts) they really werent sure where to go.
Prometheus follow up had just 2 visions, direct sequel and Covenant, both from the same director and with similar basic structure. Alien 3 had many completely different stories and different directors attached, so I wouldn't say it's the same situation. They were clearly going in direction they planned initially and then changed their mind after 2-2.5 years of development and it became what it became.
the argument is just that scott wasnt able to do what he initially set out to do. he didnt want to have a movie with the alien in it. according to him the beast was cooked. that was the basis on which he wanted to make covenant. that tells me that fox was afraid that an alien movie with no alien was going to make no money. so the story was not what scott wanted to tell and covenant felt like it was rushed to get it over with with scott just trying to do things in covenant he was never able to do in alien as the only thing he really cared about at that point.
hence the writers was left to their own devices and the story no longer mattered as much to scott as it initially nay have. no guidance really from anyone.
opinion piece
Halloween and Alien are in different leagues entirely and can't be compared....
that is only partly true.
the alien franchise was a pretty big deal up until part 3. After that it has slowed down a bit because you can't ride around forever on the monster vs. human track and count on high successes at the box office.
with the predator crossing it has reached its lowest point.
At least as far as the claim is concerned.
With Prometheus, Scott wanted to take it all to a higher level.
but the fans wanted the alien back and that led to Covenant.
The box office of Covenant was actually nothing unusual for an alien film.
(still higher than predator movies for example)
Tom Woodruff once said that these films (Alien) are actually rather small and don't justify a huge budget.
Personally I think the Alien franchise still has the most interesting and best sequels/prequels to many other horror and sci fi franchises.
Interested to see if they make a slight change to the appearance of the Xeno. Plus, I hope they don't go cheap on it (xeno).
Any news on the effects team ?
Where news?
Quote from: Bojo on Mar 12, 2023, 10:09:50 AMInterested to see if they make a slight change to the appearance of the Xeno. Plus, I hope they don't go cheap on it (xeno).
Any news on the effects team ?
They didn't go cheap on it. We're in for a treat.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 12, 2023, 06:05:45 PMQuote from: Bojo on Mar 12, 2023, 10:09:50 AMInterested to see if they make a slight change to the appearance of the Xeno. Plus, I hope they don't go cheap on it (xeno).
Any news on the effects team ?
They didn't go cheap on it. We're in for a treat.
Not sure how much you know/can say, but is it safe to assume that the Alien(s) in
Romulus and the Alien(s) in Hawley's show have both been designed from scratch separately and won't be identical to one another?
I know Weta's on the show (no word if they're on
Romulus or not), and a Dane Hallett Instagram post seemed to confirm that he was working on an Alien project that wasn't Hawley's show (so
Romulus, I assume).
EDIT: I think it's also safe to say that, based on his recent Instagram story, Carlos Huante isn't on either of the upcoming projects.
Quote from: Bojo on Mar 12, 2023, 10:09:50 AMInterested to see if they make a slight change to the appearance of the Xeno. Plus, I hope they don't go cheap on it (xeno).
Any news on the effects team ?
We know who the team is, just can't say at the moment. News of that will probably surface on its own before long.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 12, 2023, 06:11:21 PMNot sure how much you know/can say, but is it safe to assume that the Alien(s) in Romulus and the Alien(s) in Hawley's show have both been designed from scratch separately and won't be identical to one another?
Correct
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 12, 2023, 06:11:21 PMI know Weta's on the show (no word if they're on Romulus or not), and a Dane Hallett Instagram post seemed to confirm that he was working on an Alien project that wasn't Hawley's show (so Romulus, I assume).
That's a good assumption.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 12, 2023, 06:17:38 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 12, 2023, 06:11:21 PMNot sure how much you know/can say, but is it safe to assume that the Alien(s) in Romulus and the Alien(s) in Hawley's show have both been designed from scratch separately and won't be identical to one another?
Correct
Excellent. One of my biggest fears about having two different projects simultaneously in production was having assets arbitrarily shared across different productions even when it doesn't really make sense to do so (something I've noticed a LOT of in recent Star Wars productions, with so many shows running concurrent to one another). Like AVP reusing the
Resurrection Aliens despite them being designed in such a specific way where they really only make sense as a take on the creature within the context of
Resurrection's narrative.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 12, 2023, 06:20:30 PMQuote from: RidgeTop on Mar 12, 2023, 06:17:38 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 12, 2023, 06:11:21 PMNot sure how much you know/can say, but is it safe to assume that the Alien(s) in Romulus and the Alien(s) in Hawley's show have both been designed from scratch separately and won't be identical to one another?
Correct
Excellent. One of my biggest fears about having two different projects simultaneously in production was having assets arbitrarily shared across different productions even when it doesn't really make sense to do so (something I've noticed a LOT of in recent Star Wars productions, with so many shows running concurrent to one another). Like AVP reusing the Resurrection Aliens despite them being designed in such a specific way where they really only make sense as a take on the creature within the context of Resurrection's narrative.
At least... I'd be shocked if that were the case. That's one of the reasons ADI was brought on AVP over SWS was because of the cost cutting measures of using the same assets that ADI had access to from A3 and AR. If a different effects studio were to use the assets of another without some agreement, the creators of the original assets would have a big problem with that, and it wouldn't be cost effective. The design concept art for the Xenos from Romulus to the series has been totally different as far as we know.
I'm really excited to actually see the final designs WETA and Romulus' team come up with. I really can't wait for this film's effects team to be announced. It's going to please a lot of folk.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2023, 07:09:52 PMI'm really excited to actually see the final designs WETA and Romulus' team come up with. I really can't wait for this film's effects team to be announced. It's going to please a lot of folk.
There's a lot of good news on the horizon. There are reasons to be excited.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 12, 2023, 07:26:52 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2023, 07:09:52 PMI'm really excited to actually see the final designs WETA and Romulus' team come up with. I really can't wait for this film's effects team to be announced. It's going to please a lot of folk.
There's a lot of good news on the horizon. There are reasons to be excited.
I'm going to hold you to that.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 12, 2023, 07:43:31 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 12, 2023, 07:26:52 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2023, 07:09:52 PMI'm really excited to actually see the final designs WETA and Romulus' team come up with. I really can't wait for this film's effects team to be announced. It's going to please a lot of folk.
There's a lot of good news on the horizon. There are reasons to be excited.
I'm going to hold you to that.
This is something I'm certain on.
As a lifelong fan, some upcoming news should make a lot of people happy. But then, with the anger about everything these days, you can't make everyone happy. So who knows.
It's so hard not being able to share or show anything. The news can't come out fast enough.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2023, 07:09:52 PMI really can't wait for this film's effects team to be announced. It's going to please a lot of folk.
Is it Filmefex studio?
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 12, 2023, 07:47:49 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 12, 2023, 07:43:31 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 12, 2023, 07:26:52 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2023, 07:09:52 PMI'm really excited to actually see the final designs WETA and Romulus' team come up with. I really can't wait for this film's effects team to be announced. It's going to please a lot of folk.
There's a lot of good news on the horizon. There are reasons to be excited.
I'm going to hold you to that.
This is something I'm certain on.
As a lifelong fan, some upcoming news should make a lot of people happy. But then, with the anger about everything these days, you can't make everyone happy. So who knows.
It's so hard not being able to share or show anything. The news can't come out fast enough.
Well we already know Weta is doing the series, and they're the only one I'm liable to whinge about, so I'll probably be pleasantly surprised with any other developments.
Please let Big Chap return. Just please please.
Why do that when you can reinvent the wheel yet again?
Besides here, how is the reaction to the news anywhere else in the web? Seems like some people are seething in a very vague synopsis when it's like any other alien film "people go into a thing and encounters scary alien". Just that the crew are older teens/young adults, which is in place of the old 80s horror slasher films but in space.
For me, I'm glad so see some more Alien content. One hardcore line I draw is no dumb person logic making decisions like in the last two films please! I still get irrationally irritated about removing helmets in an unmarked world. Everyone deserved to eat the dirt for being so f**kin dumb.
And maybe the appearance of Colonial Marines again I hope? They are long overdue for a theatrical appearance after what, nearly 40 years? Where are my Ultimate Badasses at? Donde esta mis tough hombres at? :laugh:
I'm seeing the same sort of negative reaction on Facebook, but there's nothing new there when it comes to Facebook and something new being announced. It's disappointing to see so many jump straight onto the "they look young, gonna be shite" attitude, but I can't say I'm surprised at all. It's just the way it works online these days.
Could it be terrible? Sure. Am I going to wait for actual narrative details, or see some visuals (it is a visual medium after all) before I start to form an actual opinion. Definitely am.
If the Marines were to make a appearance, I hope they're little more reserved, in comparison to James Cameron's grunts.
I found them alittle too chest pumping and in-your-face. Hopefully they're alittle more calculated and cold, which would be a slightly interesting change from years of appearances from them in other various mediums (novels, games, comics).
Also, please, please mix up their combat gear. Please, give them a whole new modern look. Again, their appearance is old-hat. Move on from Aliens for the love of god. lol.
So, the premise of the movie is what if the Nostromo* was not destroyed and blue collar kids boarded it, trying to score their ticket out of their dead end town?
*not the actual Nostromo.
Sounds pretty good.
I hope that the creatures in the series and in Romulus will be made more insect-like and wiry again. Yes...like Big Chap
While it didn't come across as well in the movie itself, the last really good creature design was in Alien 3.
As much as I like Tom and Alec, the aliens in the other films were too bulky for me and the teeth were sometimes as big as horses' teeth. Ultimately, that is always the director's decision.
Covenant was better again, even if the biomechanics were missing. (this should definitely be added in another movie originally because Scott once said that the development of the creature in Covenant wasn't quite finished yet.)
Maybe David would have mated with the alien ???
or he might have jumped into a cauldron of black goo along with his creations, triggering the biomechanical mix...
Seems like production ends May 12th. That's a pretty reasonable shoot.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 13, 2023, 06:47:11 AMOne hardcore line I draw is no dumb person logic making decisions like in the last two films please! I still get irrationally irritated about removing helmets in an unmarked world. Everyone deserved to eat the dirt for being so f**kin dumb.
Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but dumb person logic making decisions are the cornerstone of slashers with teens. They intentionally make them dumb and irritating so audiences would be happy to see them die in a gory fashion by some bad guy with a sharp weapon, that was appeal of the genre at the time. Sir Ridley took some notes from those motion pictures for Covenant.
Quote from: TomT on Mar 14, 2023, 01:32:56 AMThey intentionally make them dumb and irritating so audiences would be happy to see them die in a gory fashion by some bad guy with a sharp weapon, that was appeal of the genre at the time...
Exactly, at THAT time. This is now, old man, demand better quality films.
Quote from: Kane's other son on Mar 13, 2023, 11:28:59 AMSo, the premise of the movie is what if the Nostromo* was not destroyed and blue collar kids boarded it, trying to score their ticket out of their dead end town?
*not the actual Nostromo.
Sounds pretty good.
Are we even sure if the events of the movie are taking place in a spaceship or somewhere bleak like lv-426 and Fiorina F161? These options mentioned are both fine but if it's going to be earth like environment then I can only laugh.
I can try to look past everyone looking like a tiktok star if the environment and the creatures are done proper.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 14, 2023, 02:23:33 AMQuote from: TomT on Mar 14, 2023, 01:32:56 AMThey intentionally make them dumb and irritating so audiences would be happy to see them die in a gory fashion by some bad guy with a sharp weapon, that was appeal of the genre at the time...
Exactly, at THAT time. This is now, old man, demand better quality films.
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I think people overdid it a bit with their negative reviews of the last two films. there were some questionable decisions that's true and could have been made much more logically, but there were agitated about situations that weren't even half as bad.
such as ferris slipping twice on the same pool of blood.
In extreme stressful situations, things like this can happen.
But that's just typical for the current internet audience. The main thing is to gossip about it and talk bad about everything.
It is also much easier to criticize than to give praise.
for me there were only 2 completely stupid situations in covenant:
1. a scientist sticks his nose straight into an unknown root and 2. oram literally lets the obviously evil david lead him to the stake.
I still like the film and find a lot more positives than bad.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2023, 05:48:32 PMSeems like production ends May 12th. That's a pretty reasonable shoot.
How do you know that? I hope they are already shooting. ;)
Dates are from Production Weekly.
Quote from: David on Mar 14, 2023, 02:19:06 PMI hope they are already shooting. ;)
If the press release announcing the additional cast members from last week is accurate, they've been going since March 9th.
Probably a stretch considering it's still so early in production, but you think we should expect to see anything for Alien Day?
If not at least some concept art or early production stills, maybe just a video of Alvarez saying something about it?
My expectations when it comes to Alien Day are so low down to the floor that I just don't see it happening...but I would so pleasantly surprised and excited if they did actually use the day to promote the film.
Maybe they'll use the date to announce whatever the real title ends up being. ;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 14, 2023, 05:37:51 PMMaybe they'll use the date to announce whatever the real title ends up being. ;)
Alien: Remus
Alien: Uranus
Alien: Forever Young
Main setting is rumoured to be planet designated PG-13
LV-90210
Does anybody except us even know about Alien Day anymore?
Quote from: Kane's other son on Mar 13, 2023, 11:28:59 AMSo, the premise of the movie is what if the Nostromo* was not destroyed and blue collar kids boarded it, trying to score their ticket out of their dead end town?
*not the actual Nostromo.
Sounds pretty good.
A heist movie approach does sound implied, even if it is reaching. I think young hoodlums would at least make sense if this is the plot.
However, that guy's audition was shit.
Is the filming over yet?
It looked like the cast was all still together in Budapest yesterday. I think Spaeny shared an IG story of them.
and we don't know about it? I thought that such things should be caught in the catch all thread topic :)
You'll be the first one we call when we find anything out.
The last Production Weekly I saw had them finishing mid-May though.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2023, 10:19:18 AMYou'll be the first one we call when we find anything out.
Nevermind. I should post my phone number here
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 01, 2023, 09:24:20 AMIt looked like the cast was all still together in Budapest yesterday. I think Spaeny shared an IG story of them.
Do you mean the photo with Spaeny, Renaux and Jonsson?
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Picture, for reference, as posted on Renaux's account:
Thanks, I was far too lazy to do that today. :laugh:
And?
It should be the best YA novel version of an Alien movie we've ever seen.
It's a complaint that genuinely baffles me.
How dare young person look young when playing a character that was written as being young!
I guess we'd better not mention Aliens having a literal child in it...
I want the captain to be Sean Bean for no particular reason other than it amuses me to imagine Sean Bean playing a captain in a reboot of Alien and getting killed by an Alien.
Anything is improved by having Sean Bean in it.
The version of my head has like, everyone (including the female lead)dying except for Sean Bean and they all die in the goofiest ways sean bean has died.
Given what Fede usually does to his young casts in his films any concern ought to be immediately squashed. 😁
I'm very excited for this film. I really liked the 2013 remake of Evil Dead and I have faith that our Uruguayan neighbor is going to do a excellent movie (I hope).
Exciting stuff! I'm sure the time will fly by until next august. I wonder if we'll get a trailer as a Christmas present like we did with Covenant.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2023, 12:09:59 AMI guess we'd better not mention Aliens having a literal child in it...
aliens is gonna be a cheesy KIDS movie!11111
that's what nerds would be writing after hearing news of that casting.
freaking out over every single detail, knowing everything about the plot months in advance.
A POWER LOADER????
ALIEN ISN'T AN ACTION MOVIE WHAT ARE THEY dOING OVER THERE
CHEESY HOLLYWOOD CRAP!!!
etc.
I think (and hope) that this will be another great ALIEN movie. Just like every ALIEN film so far.
It's always a question of taste, but personally I'm glad to see a new film of this franchise.
Can wait for alien Romulus is coming next August of 2024 and hope there is prey sequel Can wait more aliens and predator movies on the way
Excellent update! I predict that ALIEN Romulus will be the 3rd Best in the series right behind ALIEN & ALIENS!
This is Director's Fede Álvarez chance to be placed in the same conversation with Ridley Scott & James Cameron . . . . Fede Álvarez is good at doing more with less . . . . and is conscientious of what original ALIEN audiences REQUIRE! I will be there opening weekend, like I was with ALIEN in 1979!
Good, be interesting to see certain things filter out now until its release.
Regarding my views on this film so far and what we have, as a fanbase, at our disposal with regards to news surrounding this film, I'm cautiously optimistic that it will be atleast as decent as Prey.
I dont think the film will have any pretensions over what it will fundamentally be, that being a solid nuts-and-bolts horror film. Nor do I expect anything groudbreaking interms of what it will feature regarding some new-ish ideas/concepts.
Maybe certain things within the films history/lore will be put forward and expanded upon.
Maybe a possible reintroduction of the egg-morphing idea that was taken out of the original, which I always found as a somewhat effective and disturbing concept that should've been shown more love in films that proceeded (the original). Severely underutilized, personally speaking.
But overall I'm expecting a basic linear storyline, B-movie-esq dialogue and performances , good level of special effects (digital and none digital) and for the film to go hard on the gore and violence which will coincide with those moments being the more memorable elements of the movie.
just expecting for first scenes on the official trailer , plase throw us the first sirloins to the grill
hoping that this will be the Alien /Thing mashup we've always wanted.
Although not the Alien Stompers, the double strap Reeboks are a nice touch!
Quote from: skhellter on Jul 03, 2023, 11:07:52 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2023, 12:09:59 AMI guess we'd better not mention Aliens having a literal child in it...
aliens is gonna be a cheesy KIDS movie!11111
that's what nerds would be writing after hearing news of that casting.
freaking out over every single detail, knowing everything about the plot months in advance.
A POWER LOADER????
ALIEN ISN'T AN ACTION MOVIE WHAT ARE THEY dOING OVER THERE
CHEESY HOLLYWOOD CRAP!!!
etc.
I think quite a few contemporary fans (at least a faction of them within the fandom)had that reaction to Cameron's Aliens in the 80s, regarding the alien lore and the movie's tone, even those that liked the movie ultimately.
Yeah Cameron even responded to some of them in a magazine.
Which you can find here: https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/james-cameron-responds-to-aliens-critics/
All of that aside, these clowns are fronting as if a bunch of early-20-somethings running afoul of a spooky monster isn't both tried and true, and a proud tradition, in the horror genre.
"Oh no, Alien is going back to its horror roots! That sucks! 0/10"
I really hope this is good
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 06, 2023, 07:50:36 AMAll of that aside, these clowns are fronting as if a bunch of early-20-somethings running afoul of a spooky monster isn't both tried and true, and a proud tradition, in the horror genre.
"Oh no, Alien is going back to its horror roots! That sucks! 0/10"
In the broad horror genre perhaps but isn't the original Alien more traditionally about a bunch of boomers running afoul of a spooky monster? :P
Quote from: skhellter on Jul 03, 2023, 11:07:52 PMaliens is gonna be a cheesy KIDS movie!11111
that's what nerds would be writing after hearing news of that casting.
freaking out over every single detail, knowing everything about the plot months in advance.
A POWER LOADER????
ALIEN ISN'T AN ACTION MOVIE WHAT ARE THEY dOING OVER THERE
CHEESY HOLLYWOOD CRAP!!!
etc.
To be fair, if I'd known about Burke's vest beforehand, I would probably have boycotted the film.
My contention is that if Aliens were released today, there would be youtube review after youtube review talking about how bad Burke's character motivation is and how dumb of a series of decisions he needs to make for the plot to happen.
Were contemporary reviews like that? I'm sure there had to be a few that mentioned Paul Reiser's character. I know, I'm a bad fan and should have already researched this.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 07, 2023, 01:46:19 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 06, 2023, 07:50:36 AMAll of that aside, these clowns are fronting as if a bunch of early-20-somethings running afoul of a spooky monster isn't both tried and true, and a proud tradition, in the horror genre.
"Oh no, Alien is going back to its horror roots! That sucks! 0/10"
In the broad horror genre perhaps but isn't the original Alien more traditionally about a bunch of boomers running afoul of a spooky monster? :P
Alien predates the rise of 20-somethings falling afoul of something spooky as a horror trope.
Not by much - the earliest slashers were mid to late 70s,
Texas Chainsaw Massacre was an inspiration for Scott, Halloween came out during filming and F13 was only a year or two away before it made young people getting slaughtered the defining characteristic of horror for the next 10-20 years or so - but it's never been something that impacted the series.