Aliens vs Predator: Rift War (2022)

Started by felix, Oct 16, 2021, 10:32:26 PM

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Corporal Hicks


I'm all excited! Opening page, Predator POV referring to things using human terminology. Drives me barmy!

Still Collating...

I hope they don't go the painfully corny Steve Perry rout of describing the "Yautja".

Corporal Hicks

I've not got further, but they are Yautja. Yautja are here to stay at this point.

Xiggz456

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I'm all excited! Opening page, Predator POV referring to things using human terminology. Drives me barmy!

So the paperback release has been pushed back to Sep 6th but the audio book is available now so I just got the audiobook lol!

Corporal Hicks

Ooofff. The prologue was a real struggle for me. I'm off to a real bad start here. I'll share details tomorrow but I've already had to put it down.

Corporal Hicks

So to vent.

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In the first sentence we have the Predators (Yautja) referring to the eggs as Ovomorphs. Then the Aliens as Xenomorphs. It frustrates me when we have the Predators using human terminology when they should be using terms like Serpents or Hard Meat/Kainde Amedha. It pulls me right out of a POV seeing that kind of thing.

The prologue sets up that the Predators relationship with the Aliens goes back before their written history. The Predators can't remember a time without the Aliens. Yet during all that time apparently the DNA reflex is a myth that has never been witnessed...really?

It also seems setup that the Predators that go around seeding worlds for the blooding rituals do so in secret. Which the next chapter from the Predator POV also seems to contradict.
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It's already feeling like the authors just left the various Wiki's up and don't really understand the concepts they're playing with. If the books are going to stick with the Yautja, at least spend a day or two reading AvP: Prey.

xShadowFoxX

xShadowFoxX

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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 17, 2022, 09:16:28 AMSo to vent.

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In the first sentence we have the Predators (Yautja) referring to the eggs as Ovomorphs. Then the Aliens as Xenomorphs. It frustrates me when we have the Predators using human terminology when they should be using terms like Serpents or Hard Meat/Kainde Amedha. It pulls me right out of a POV seeing that kind of thing.

The prologue sets up that the Predators relationship with the Aliens goes back before their written history. The Predators can't remember a time without the Aliens. Yet during all that time apparently the DNA reflex is a myth that has never been witnessed...really?

It also seems setup that the Predators that go around seeding worlds for the blooding rituals do so in secret. Which the next chapter from the Predator POV also seems to contradict.
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It's already feeling like the authors just left the various Wiki's up and don't really understand the concepts they're playing with. If the books are going to stick with the Yautja, at least spend a day or two reading AvP: Prey.

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I've been listening to it via audiobook and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. However, I'm with you in that it's weird and pretty annoying that the Predators are using words like 'xenomorph' and 'ovomorph' and all kinds of morphs.
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I will say that I am fond of some of the characters, particularly some of the addicts, Shrapnel, Innid (I think is her name) and Fetch but I do wish there was more development because I'm an hour and a half away from finishing.

Still Collating...

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 17, 2022, 09:16:28 AMSo to vent.

Spoiler
In the first sentence we have the Predators (Yautja) referring to the eggs as Ovomorphs. Then the Aliens as Xenomorphs. It frustrates me when we have the Predators using human terminology when they should be using terms like Serpents or Hard Meat/Kainde Amedha. It pulls me right out of a POV seeing that kind of thing.

The prologue sets up that the Predators relationship with the Aliens goes back before their written history. The Predators can't remember a time without the Aliens. Yet during all that time apparently the DNA reflex is a myth that has never been witnessed...really?

It also seems setup that the Predators that go around seeding worlds for the blooding rituals do so in secret. Which the next chapter from the Predator POV also seems to contradict.
[close]

It's already feeling like the authors just left the various Wiki's up and don't really understand the concepts they're playing with. If the books are going to stick with the Yautja, at least spend a day or two reading AvP: Prey.

Wow, that does not inspire me with confidence....

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Calling them Ovomorphs and Xenomorphs is stupid, but I always hated the term Hard Meat and Kainde Amedha. Steve Perry really made them too primitive sounding IMO with those terms and the honor culture in his books. That's why I asked about the Yautja, I don't have a problem with the phrase, but the way that some of the books depict the Predators. I like them tribal in culture and aesthetics but not so primitive like in the first AVP book. The comic was miles ahead though.
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Kradan

Kradan

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But what about

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flying Aliens ?
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Wompdonkey

All this talk about terminology and I still don't know if people think the story is any good.

SiL

SiL

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Sounds like the story is all over the place.

xShadowFoxX

Finished it. Can definitely say it is indeed all over the place as perspectives often change between humans, Aliens and Predators.

I've never minded the Yautja culture, but I do feel there was just too much of that in the book.

As a story, it's pretty average, pretty much what you would expect from an AvP story.

Overall, I actually did have some fun with it. I do wish there was more to it and that the author actually took notes from everything else.

Corporal Hicks

So I jumped back into it again today, managed to not be bothered by more use of Ovomorph and Xenomorph in Predator POV and then ran into them using terms like Langrange point and them using the same names for the other creatures that the humans did and I got pulled out of it yet again.

The Yautja are here to stay. I accept that. But let's actually put an effort into making them different, rather than just the random apostrophes in the names.

Wompdonkey

Im kind of out of the loop for Predator stuff, but is Yautja not a canon term for what the Predators are/are callled?

I totally understand being bothered by Preds using human terminology, but what is the problem with the term Yautja? Its not a term like Xenomorph, which I've never really liked. Just wondering where the problems lie.

xShadowFoxX

Quote from: Wompdonkey on Aug 18, 2022, 08:43:06 PMIm kind of out of the loop for Predator stuff, but is Yautja not a canon term for what the Predators are/are callled?

I totally understand being bothered by Preds using human terminology, but what is the problem with the term Yautja? Its not a term like Xenomorph, which I've never really liked. Just wondering where the problems lie.

Yautja is what the Predators are canonically called in the EU but the name is actually kind of awful sounding and sometimes the culture falls into space samurai territory, to the point where it becomes unbearable. They were also called the Hish at some point in some presses.

The word xenomorph is just a generic term and applies to all aliens, not just the Alien. Could easily apply to the so called Yautjas as well.

The problem I do have with the term xenomorph is that some of these authors come across as thinking that the Aliens are actually called xenomorph which will annoy any alien fan.

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