This is from US iTunes. They have the digital HD version up for pre-order, including a look at the menu (possibly the same design as the Blu-ray?). Now take a note of the runtime on the that first pic... 2:39:09 :o
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Also, if this is any indication of the Blu-ray menu, then the deleted scenes ARE on the film disc (another screenshot on iTunes shows this). Maybe this is just like the Alien Anthology discs, where you have seamless branching AND the option to play the extra scenes individually. We know the deleted scenes add up to about 35 mins (plus the 2hr 4min movie)... so this is looking good for an extended cut :)
Edit: here are the other menu shots:
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"raises eyebrow"
.fascinating....
Thanks for the update, Daz85. I'd completely given up hope on an Extended cut, but this has me cautiously optimistic. Though I noticed that the runtime also reads 02:04:02 in the information section :-\
Directly from the source, if anyone is interested:
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Quote from: Daz85 on Sep 07, 2012, 02:23:44 PM
Also, if this is any indication of the Blu-ray menu, then the deleted scenes ARE on the film disc (another screenshot on iTunes shows this). Maybe this is just like the Alien Anthology discs, where you have seamless branching AND the option to play the extra scenes individually. We know the deleted scenes add up to about 35 mins (plus the 2hr 4min movie)... so this is looking good for an extended cut :)
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That's a nice compromise - include a seamlessly branching extended cut as a bonus feature, but don't market it as a 'Director's Cut' or 'Special Edition'. Colour me impressed...
Hopefully someone uploads the extended cut upon release. I'll torrent it.
Please, Space Jesus, let this be true.
Not that it'll fix the multitude of awful story and casting choices that all but ruin the film, but it'll at least make the damned thing watchable. I hope.
I completely gave up on an extended cut of the movie. But this has given me my hope back. Damn let it be true ;D
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 04:45:59 PM
Please, Space Jesus, let this be true.
Let's all join hands as we look up and ask for this blessing.
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Maybe we should offer up a sacrifice or something...
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 07, 2012, 05:00:36 PM
Maybe we should offer up a sacrifice or something...
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Who wants to bet that runtime is just a result of iTunes shoving all the deleted scenes post credits? After all, the runtime on the iTunes page proper still specifies the theatrical cut.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Who wants to bet that runtime is just a result of iTunes shoving all the deleted scenes post credits? After all, the runtime on the iTunes page proper still specifies the theatrical cut.
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Who wants to bet that runtime is just a result of iTunes shoving all the deleted scenes post credits? After all, the runtime on the iTunes page proper still specifies the theatrical cut.
But, Cvalda, I was enjoying being naive. :'(
*sigh*
I hope they don't just shove the deleted scenes in at the end.
Depending on the completion status of the scenes (as in, how finished they are), putting them at the end may actually make a fan edit easier...
Anyone planning on doing an edit? I had considered it but am not really interested anymore in trying to salvage a colossal f**k up.
You'd have to go back and re-Giger up everything for a start. Make the planet more like the one in Alien. Make the suit not a suit etc. Get rid of all the faith bullshit. The list goes on and on and on.
Quote from: tmjhur on Sep 07, 2012, 05:21:43 PM
Anyone planning on doing an edit? I had considered it but am not really interested anymore in trying to salvage a colossal f**k up.
You'd have to go back and re-Giger up everything for a start. Make the planet more like the one in Alien. Make the suit not a suit etc. Get rid of all the faith bullshit. The list goes on and on and on.
So basically, turn the movie into something it was never intended to be?
Fans know better, don't they? :)
What's the point of recreating something what has been achieved before.. When I read about the mistakes of the Prometheus and things which has been executed bad, it's all basically about reusing concepts from the previous movies.
Quote from: Zenzucht on Sep 07, 2012, 07:03:33 PM
Fans know better, don't they? :)
Wasn't that who the movie was made for? The "Alien fanboys" as Lindelof calls them? :)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 07, 2012, 05:00:36 PM
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Sacrifice the perfume sponsor! Sacrifice! Sacrifice!
Quote from: Zenzucht on Sep 07, 2012, 07:03:33 PM
Fans know better, don't they? :)
What's the point of recreating something what has been achieved before.. When I read about the mistakes of the Prometheus and things which has been executed bad, it's all basically about reusing concepts from the previous movies.
Nobody said they had to recreate Alien. But to honour the look of Alien and capture the atmosphere of the rest of the franchise shouldn't be that difficult. They've done it with Aliens and Alien 3.
I could accept the fact that the technology was different (although a bit too advanced I would say, given it's a prequel), I could eventually accept the visual choices Ridley made despite being really disappointed that it looked very different to the Alien franchise and featured a lot more CGI than I would ever have imagined before seeing all the trailers, and I could even accept the pale humanoids. But on top of all that, he still went and messed up the story good.
So yes, fans do know better.
Honestly, while the film wasn't as Giger-esque as Alien, I thought that it was very respectful of the look and style of the original. Sure, things were different, but I definitely got that Alien vibe with the things I saw on screen.
Aside from the Deacon, of course. That was more of a Kenner vibe.
See, even the Deacon I had no problems with :P
But, even putting myself in the mindset of those who don't, 'Kenner' isn't exactly how I would describe it. I'd say that would fit more with AVPR's Predalien (and even then, its a stretch).
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 07, 2012, 07:43:54 PM
I'd say that would fit more with AVPR's Predalien (and even then, its a stretch).
You're only digging yourself in deeper now.
Oh, I hated the Predalien. I just meant that its a stretch to compare it to the Kenner figures. Those were intentionally goofy.
The sad part is that the Deacon was unintentionally goofy.
Eh, I don't necessarily agree there. It was certainly strange looking, but I quite liked the design. Is it as good as Giger's original? Of course not. But its an interesting design and works as a sort of subspecies or alternate creation that is skewed off from the more traditional Aliens that we are used to seeing.
Too bad it doesn't work at being frightening or unsettling. The audience laughed out loud at it. It's incredibly derpy looking.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 07:51:14 PM
Too bad it doesn't work at being frightening or unsettling. The audience laughed out loud at it. It's incredibly derpy looking.
Still a chestburster though, so you don't know what it eventually will look like. The normal chestburster isn't that scary either, but when it's a full grown alien it's the stuff from nightmares.
Considering the fact that the chestburster scene in Alien is regarded as one of the scariest scenes in cinema history, and the Deacon scene is treated as a punchline in reviews and comments, I'd say the chestburster is a damn sight scarier than the Deacon.
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 07:51:14 PM
Too bad it doesn't work at being frightening or unsettling. The audience laughed out loud at it. It's incredibly derpy looking.
I thought it was a bit unsettling. Not scary, but kind of strange and done in a pretty cool way. The crossfading added a bit to that, too (similar to Ripley's 'emergence from the womb' in
Alien Resurrection).
While I'd be lying if I said that my theater seemed scared, there was certainly no laughter.
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LULZ. This design.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 07, 2012, 07:33:09 PM
Honestly, while the film wasn't as Giger-esque as Alien, I thought that it was very respectful of the look and style of the original. Sure, things were different, but I definitely got that Alien vibe with the things I saw on screen.
I loved the interior of the ship, I loved the inside of the temple and the ampule room with the fresco, I loved seeing the Derelict ships. But at times it felt a little
too polished with the other visuals. I wish I could express myself better.
But the look of the film is really not my issue. I eventually accepted that and it was good we knew what we were getting into from the first teaser. Because the way things sounded before, I was expecting an impressive amount of practical effects and only very little CGI (Prometheus flying through space for instance). The practical effects that were used were impressive indeed. It just felt like there was potential for so much more.
But my issue with the film lies with the flawed story and some choices made script-wise.
Deacon is a FVCKING JOKE. What was the purpose? Not only of that design, but the scene itself...It was as cheap as Predalien bursting out in a fvcking AVP flick.
A joke?! Surely you are mistaken! Does this look like a joke to you, sir?!:
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I bet even Giger himself wishes he had designed such an exquisite addition the Alien canon!
Get that shit out mah face.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Sep 07, 2012, 08:31:16 PM
Deacon is a FVCKING JOKE. What was the purpose? Not only of that design, but the scene itself...It was as cheap as Predalien bursting out in a fvcking AVP flick.
My favorite scene in AvP...
All in all Prom and AvP are quite similar.
Quote from: Master on Sep 07, 2012, 08:41:09 PM
All in all Prom and AvP are quite similar.
Therein lies the problem. :-\
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 08:35:00 PM
A joke?! Surely you are mistaken! Does this look like a joke to you, sir?!:
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I bet even Giger himself wishes he had designed such an exquisite addition the Alien canon!
Considering some of his wackier designs.... i wouldnt be surprised if he was actually fond of the deacon.
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Someone needs to just go and ask him :laugh:
But Giger hated that design and scapped it. :)
I was under the impression that it was everyone else that had hated it.. causing Giger to scrap it :P
anyway someone needs to get to switzerland and just ASK the guy about Prometheus.:laugh:
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I'm so buying the Trilobite, Deacon, victimized Engineer and Shaw.... to build one happy family! ;D
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f**k, Holloway.. he's out. He's the poorly designed one. >:(
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 07, 2012, 09:33:23 PM
I was under the impression that it was everyone else that had hated it.. causing Giger to scrap it :P
Nope. Giger was embarressed to even show Ridley the mockup he made, because it looked like, in his words, "a chicken."
The designers on Prometheus seem quite proud and satisfied with the Deacon by contrast :)
..and being a design that a lot of people liked... why not? :P Dudes where hired to do a primitive version of the alien. They delivered. It wasnt my favourite design of the ones that they had, though...
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Yes, people liked the design.
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They exist.
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I am one of them O.o.
You have a friend :) congrats ;)
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lol
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I ran a poll and most people ended up liking it... 70% ish if i remember correctly. the rest hated it. Cant be arsed to dig it out of the forum :P
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
The designers on Prometheus seem quite proud and satisfied with the Deacon by contrast :)
QuoteThere was the Deacon, which eventually turned into "that blue thing that comes out of the Engineer" at the end of the film — but Huante's version was very different. (http://io9.com/5917639/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-design-of-prometheus)
Quote"Ridley Scott really wanted to "keep it real" and avoid anything that looked too overtly monstrous"
I've heard this over and over in private conversations. The designers did their job and created all sort of monstrous creatures. It's not their fault if the director decides not to use them and go a different route.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 07, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
I ran a poll and most people ended up spewing love.. 70% ish if i remember correctly.
A sad portrait of the state of the fandom :P
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 07, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
I ran a poll and most people ended up spewing love.. 70% ish if i remember correctly.
A sad portrait of the state of the fandom :P
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Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 09:57:07 PM
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Not canon. It can't cry without eyes.
he'll have the mutated worms to play with.
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that sounds a bit wrong.. hrm.
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 07, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
QuoteThere was the Deacon, which eventually turned into "that blue thing that comes out of the Engineer" at the end of the film — but Huante's version was very different. (http://io9.com/5917639/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-design-of-prometheus)
Huante's design hasnt been released into the wilds (er.. the internets), has it?
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 07, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
The designers on Prometheus seem quite proud and satisfied with the Deacon by contrast :)
QuoteThere was the Deacon, which eventually turned into "that blue thing that comes out of the Engineer" at the end of the film — but Huante's version was very different. (http://io9.com/5917639/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-design-of-prometheus)
Quote"Ridley Scott really wanted to "keep it real" and avoid anything that looked too overtly monstrous"
I've heard this over and over in private conversations. The designers did their job and created all sort of monstrous creatures. It's not their fault if the director decides not to use them and go a different route.
Thanks for the link
ikarop!
This seems to only be available in the US and not in Canada. ??? That sucks for me! >:(
QuoteUpdate: We talked to Fox and confirmed that the DHD initiative is not limited to only Ultraviolet. According to the studio when this kicks off September 18th, it will make more than 600 films available across stores including Amazon, CinemaNow, iTunes, PlayStation, VUDU and Xbox. Prometheus is also Fox's first UV title and its first new release under the DHD program, but if you prefer your digital movies in another format, it looks like you'll be able to get them.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/07/fox-dhd-early-movie-sale-ultraviolet-prometheus/ (http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/07/fox-dhd-early-movie-sale-ultraviolet-prometheus/)
Vudu is listing the length at 124 minutes: http://www.vudu.com/movies/#more_info/351221/Prometheus (http://www.vudu.com/movies/#more_info/351221/Prometheus)
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 07, 2012, 07:54:50 PM
Considering the fact that the chestburster scene in Alien is regarded as one of the scariest scenes in cinema history, and the Deacon scene is treated as a punchline in reviews and comments, I'd say the chestburster is a damn sight scarier than the Deacon.
A scene done well with a non-scary creature is still scary. Alone, the chestburster isn't scary. In the context of that iconic scene, it's extremely frightening (metal bar holding it up and all). The Deacon scene seemed quite forced, though not too too bad, and the creature design wasn't bad. It just suffered as a result of the nature of the scene. And side by side, I'd say by itself the Deacon is certainly more menacing.
is the 2 hrs & 39 minutes cut a confirmed or just speculation? i thought Scott said no extended cut for prometheus or he wanted to surprise the fans?
ive just heard around other forums that there wont be an extended cut that those screens are just the theatrical cut including the extras since its an itunes download if true we got our hope's up for no reason with those screens.
It was too good to be true. :'(
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 08, 2012, 10:17:53 AM
It was too good to be true. :'(
:-\yeah i agree with you i just hope somewher along the line a directors cut or extended cut whatever u wanna call it comes out if not that will be a first for Ridleys blurays lol since pretty much every movie he has made has an extended cut lol. :laugh:
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Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 08, 2012, 10:17:53 AM
It was too good to be true. :'(
:-\yeah i agree with you i just hope somewher along the line a directors cut or extended cut whatever u wanna call it comes out if not that will be a first for Ridleys blurays lol since pretty much every movie he has made has an extended cut lol. :laugh:
"...somewhere along the line..."
I don't like those words. Even if it's a year of waiting, it's still too long. :-\
true. but i rather see it released then not at all lol
Seems so pointless NOT to do one. It's almost like the opposite of whatever the fans say happens :D
I mean the shits on the disc, I'm sure in this day and age of video editing tools, he could have shoved the scenes back in and printed it by the time he'd smoked his cuban.
That's assuming it's even worthwhile watching though. Probably not.
It can't be worse than the theatrical cut though. I would imagine it would improve the film at least a tiny bit.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 08, 2012, 11:36:27 AM
It can't be worse than the theatrical cut though. I would imagine it would improve the film at least a tiny bit.
That's quite ridiculous... So Ridley Scott purposely left a better movie on the cutting room floor? ;)
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 08, 2012, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 08, 2012, 11:36:27 AM
It can't be worse than the theatrical cut though. I would imagine it would improve the film at least a tiny bit.
That's quite ridiculous... So Ridley Scott purposely left a better movie on the cutting room floor? ;)
In Ridley's opinion, what we got
was then better movie :P
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 08, 2012, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Sep 08, 2012, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 08, 2012, 11:36:27 AM
It can't be worse than the theatrical cut though. I would imagine it would improve the film at least a tiny bit.
That's quite ridiculous... So Ridley Scott purposely left a better movie on the cutting room floor? ;)
In Ridley's opinion, what we got was then better movie :P
Exactly.
And let's not forget that movie studios often collaborate with directors to cut films down to fit in as many showings as possible per day.
And Ridley has stated before that first and foremost he is a "business man." His is focused on pleasing the studios first and then himself and then the fans.
So, I don't think Ridley is above purposely leaving a better film on the cutting room floor. How many times have you seen Ridley films get extended cuts? Blade Runner and Kingdom of Heaven were both better in their newer cuts.
Now lets just hope it doesn't take as long for Prometheus as it did for Blade Runner ;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 08, 2012, 03:02:01 PM
Now lets just hope it doesn't take as long for Prometheus as it did for Blade Runner ;)
:'(
if anyone mANAGES TO GET A COPY OF THIS AND IS AN EXTENDED RELEASE PLEASE LET US KNOW. EVEN THOUGH I HIGHLY DOUBT IT. >:(
Will Itunes eventually make this availible in Canada? ???
Why don't they just friggin' tell people if there's gonna be an extended cut released this year or not?
The recently leaked version is the theatrical cut, no extra scenes
Quote from: LarsVader on Sep 09, 2012, 02:27:58 AM
Why don't they just friggin' tell people if there's gonna be an extended cut released this year or not?
More profitable to announce it after everyone buys a copy?
It was never going to be a directors cut of the movie... And it's not like the marketing for the home market campaign is going to promote it by saying "here it is... The non directors cut version for the first time on blu-ray".
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 09, 2012, 04:36:08 AM
The recently leaked version is the theatrical cut, no extra scenes
leaked version? is there a dvd/blu ray rip up somewhere?
..just go to piratebay.
The sound is bloody awful though.. they used the sound of a cam rip.
I can't, my country has blocked the pirate bay.
And I don't really want to see it again with bad sound.
Blu ray, big tv, big sound is the only way to watch this movie IMO. The spectacle is one of the main draw cards.
I think I just want to see the deleted scenes.
I was watching a few clips there on youtube.
Shaw is a f**king moron and annoying to boot.
Not sure I can sit through it again.
The realities of digital VFX production heavy movies make an extended cut (unless it is planned for from the beginning) unlikely. Usually as soon as a shot is dropped from the cut, work on it is being stopped immediately. The only reason we got to see some stills of the CG creature of the Fifield attack is that apparently the decision to go for the practical one was made rather late.
Usually in the facilities, since disk space is always an issue, things get archived soon after the project is completed. So while it is perfectly possible to go back to the archives and finish shots that were dropped early on, it happens rarely.
So, if we do see an extended cut, it would most likely only envolve less vfx heavy, dialogue scenes...
Fox just emailed us confirming that the run time in the iTunes screen grab is incorrect. The run time for Prometheus is 2:04:02.
Well, there we are. A bummer, but luckily, I'm one of those who enjoyed the film in the first place. :)
that was expected. They have to sell this film twice :P
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 10, 2012, 09:09:47 PM
Fox just emailed us confirming that the run time in the iTunes screen grab is incorrect. The run time for Prometheus is 2:04:02.
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Quote from: Master on Sep 10, 2012, 09:22:51 PM
that was expected. They have to sell this film twice :P
Actually, Fox have never once sold us a new 'Special Edition' of a film in a given format using deleted footage that we already have in that format. The Director's Cut of Alien had some alternate takes of the deleted scenes we'd already seen, along with all-new footage. The closest you could say would be having the Special Edition of Aliens rereleased in the Quadrilogy box, but that hardly counts because within that box we also got Alien: DC, Alien3: AC, and AR: SE.
If Fox
does want to sell us an extended cut down the line, it'll have all-new footage cut into it - they can't simply sell us the fan edit that we all know will be online within a week of 10.11.12.
I seem to recall Fox and Cameron getting a lot of mileage out of packaging the deleted scenes/extended version of Aliens a zillion different ways before the Anthology/Quadrilogy just lobbed it on there. But I remember the early '90s when those scenes were still vaguely mythical if you didn't have a laserdisc or whatever. "Oooh, the scene about Ripley's daughter! Oooh, Newt's parents!"
And yes, they can sell an extended cut of Prometheus. A lot more consumers will just go out and buy the legit extension if it's released as opposed to living on the Internet for a fan edit. I wish they'd just bundle the theatrical and an extended now.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 11, 2012, 07:23:52 AM
I seem to recall Fox and Cameron getting a lot of mileage out of packaging the deleted scenes/extended version of Aliens a zillion different ways before the Anthology/Quadrilogy just lobbed it on there.
Those new scenes in Aliens first debuted on the Special Edition laserdisc - they were never available on their own first.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Sep 11, 2012, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 11, 2012, 07:23:52 AM
I seem to recall Fox and Cameron getting a lot of mileage out of packaging the deleted scenes/extended version of Aliens a zillion different ways before the Anthology/Quadrilogy just lobbed it on there.
Those new scenes in Aliens first debuted on the Special Edition laserdisc - they were never available on their own first.
I have a clear memory of the sentry guns being in the CBS network tv debut of aliens and me losing my shit as a child as it was a new scene not on the VHS.
This must have been like 1987.
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 17, 2012, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Sep 11, 2012, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 11, 2012, 07:23:52 AM
I seem to recall Fox and Cameron getting a lot of mileage out of packaging the deleted scenes/extended version of Aliens a zillion different ways before the Anthology/Quadrilogy just lobbed it on there.
Those new scenes in Aliens first debuted on the Special Edition laserdisc - they were never available on their own first.
I have a clear memory of the sentry guns being in the CBS network tv debut of aliens and me losing my shit as a child as it was a new scene not on the VHS.
This must have been like 1987.
I remember seeing that same broadcast.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Sep 17, 2012, 08:59:58 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Sep 17, 2012, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Sep 11, 2012, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 11, 2012, 07:23:52 AM
I seem to recall Fox and Cameron getting a lot of mileage out of packaging the deleted scenes/extended version of Aliens a zillion different ways before the Anthology/Quadrilogy just lobbed it on there.
Those new scenes in Aliens first debuted on the Special Edition laserdisc - they were never available on their own first.
I have a clear memory of the sentry guns being in the CBS network tv debut of aliens and me losing my shit as a child as it was a new scene not on the VHS.
This must have been like 1987.
I remember seeing that same broadcast.
That's a broadcast, not something available for sale.
Watching the rest of the deleted scenes right now. It appears to include 4 deleted scenes only.
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:21:31 AM
Watching the rest of the deleted scenes right now. It appears to include 4 deleted scenes only.
Wait, what?! I thought the iTunes release was supposed to include them all. Which are included, ikarop?
Skin, Janek fills Vickers in, The Engineer Speaks, final battle.
The Engineer speaks scene is different than the one in the preview. The first thing the Engineer says according to david is "He wants to know why you are here".
So we won't see all the deleted scenes til the Blu-ray. Cheeky iTunes bastards :laugh:
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
Skin, Janek fill Vickers in, The Engineer Speaks, final battle.
The Engineer speaks scene is different than the one in the preview. The first thing the Engineer says according to david is "He wants to know why you are here".
Is
Skin different to the
Skin scene already released?
I guess. Then the Engineer asks Weyland why he wants to live forever (dialog from today's preview). After that the engineer kills David and there's no more dialog from him.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 05:29:58 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
Skin, Janek fill Vickers in, The Engineer Speaks, final battle.
The Engineer speaks scene is different than the one in the preview. The first thing the Engineer says according to david is "He wants to know why you are here".
Is Skin different to the Skin scene already released?
No.
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:33:39 AM
I guess. Then the Engineer asks Weyland why he wants to live forever (dialog from today's preview). After that the engineer kills David and there's no more dialog from him.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 05:29:58 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
Skin, Janek fill Vickers in, The Engineer Speaks, final battle.
The Engineer speaks scene is different than the one in the preview. The first thing the Engineer says according to david is "He wants to know why you are here".
Is Skin different to the Skin scene already released?
No.
So there's not much dialogue between the Engineer and David? And does Weyland answer the Engineer's question?
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 05:49:11 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:33:39 AM
I guess. Then the Engineer asks Weyland why he wants to live forever (dialog from today's preview). After that the engineer kills David and there's no more dialog from him.
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 18, 2012, 05:29:58 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 18, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
Skin, Janek fill Vickers in, The Engineer Speaks, final battle.
The Engineer speaks scene is different than the one in the preview. The first thing the Engineer says according to david is "He wants to know why you are here".
Is Skin different to the Skin scene already released?
No.
So there's not much dialogue between the Engineer and David? And does Weyland answer the Engineer's question?
He does. He compares himself to the Engineer and tells him that they are both creators.
The film can be acquired here too: http://www.foxdigitalhd.com/ (http://www.foxdigitalhd.com/)
Looks like the Vudu purchase includes the alternate scenes too (at least two of them).
Why do you even care Cvalda? You loathed the film. Why talk about something you disliked so much?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 18, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Why do you even care Cvalda? You loathed the film. Why talk about something you disliked so much?
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Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 18, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Why do you even care Cvalda? You loathed the film. Why talk about something you disliked so much?
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What's up with all these Oprah gifs?
Quote from: echobbase79 on Sep 18, 2012, 06:41:14 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 18, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 18, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
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What's up with all these Oprah gifs?
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