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Films/TV => Prey => Topic started by: happypred on Jun 18, 2022, 03:57:01 AM

Title: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: happypred on Jun 18, 2022, 03:57:01 AM
Raphael Adolini 1715 on Greyback's pistol

Prey is set in 1719

A bit weird if there's zero connection...

If they're ignoring the DH short, Raphael Adolini could just be the gunsmith's name and it wouldn't be that odd for a French trapper to be using a pistol made by a gunsmith with an Italian name.

This could leave room for Feral to be implied as young Greyback.

Trachtenberg says Feral could be from a different hemisphere. Relative to Jungle Hunter, Crucified, the Super Clan and Fugitive...Feral, Greyback and at least some members of the Lost Tribe have a noticeably more tribal, almost shamanistic aesthetic.

Not saying there's def a connection as I'm just speculating, but think there's room for Predator 2 and Predator 5 to be linked somehow.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: SiL on Jun 18, 2022, 04:04:07 AM
We know they had a replica of the gun made/bought for the film.

Greyback does not have thing long dreads and doesn't look like he's from a "different hemisphere" than the original Predators so if it's their plan to have Feral be Greyback they seriously messed up.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Some Old Dude on Jun 18, 2022, 01:09:05 PM
He'd also be 278 years older tho.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Doomofman on Jun 18, 2022, 07:03:14 PM
How I'd expect them to do it (And I dont necessarily think this would be good) is that Naru gets the pistol from one of colonists/trappers (maybe off the dead body of one after the burnt forest fight) and uses it somehow to help defeat the Feral predator at the end and then we get a scene mirroring P2 where a younger Grey back and his bros show up to retrieve Feral's body and Naru gives Greyback the pistol as a mark of respect for how the Feral/his species fought. Again I don't think this would necessarily be good bit it's the kinda way I'd expect someone to approach it to really drive home the link to P2
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: shadowedge on Jun 18, 2022, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 18, 2022, 04:04:07 AMWe know they had a replica of the gun made/bought for the film.

Greyback does not have thing long dreads and doesn't look like he's from a "different hemisphere" than the original Predators so if it's their plan to have Feral be Greyback they seriously messed up.

I didn't know that they had a replica of the gun made for the film. That is cool. Do you where it was stated that they made a replica?

Adolini is an Italian surename and this movie has French fur trappers, but maybe there are some Italians with them?
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: The Shuriken on Jun 18, 2022, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 18, 2022, 04:04:07 AMWe know they had a replica of the gun made/bought for the film.

Greyback does not have thing long dreads and doesn't look like he's from a "different hemisphere" than the original Predators so if it's their plan to have Feral be Greyback they seriously messed up.

Usually I'd say to myself "surely they couldn't screw this up THAT bad, right?"

But after the Predator nothing is sure. But I seriously hope that will not be the case with Greyback.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2022, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 18, 2022, 08:19:54 PMI didn't know that they had a replica of the gun made for the film. That is cool. Do you where it was stated that they made a replica?

They borrowed a replica off a collector, according to rumors.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Jun 19, 2022, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2022, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 18, 2022, 08:19:54 PMI didn't know that they had a replica of the gun made for the film. That is cool. Do you where it was stated that they made a replica?

They borrowed a replica off a collector, according to rumors.

Curious to see if it at all plays out. If it is a rumor and nothing happens, I wonder if someone was just messing with us. But it could be they're testing out the idea to see if they can make it work. I'm 50/50 on the thing, I'd rather Greyback and the pistol not show up if they can't do it right. Don't need it feeling forced for some Easter egg cameo that only fans would notice.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Highland on Jun 19, 2022, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 18, 2022, 04:04:07 AMWe know they had a replica of the gun made/bought for the film.

Greyback does not have thing long dreads and doesn't look like he's from a "different hemisphere" than the original Predators so if it's their plan to have Feral be Greyback they seriously messed up.

Jesus, spoiler alert  :'(

That's cool though if it's in there.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: RoguePred1987 on Jun 20, 2022, 05:08:32 PM
Since Feral isn't Greyback, and with the rumor of a second potential Pred actor, maybe he is watching or reveals himself after the finale similar to P2.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jun 21, 2022, 12:39:54 AM
I could see a case where our focus is Feral but Greyback was in the movie the whole time. As if we watch the pistol get taken but we can't see Feral properly and it turns out it was really Greyback who took it. Greyback shows up for the final battle or after and we can see the pistol suggesting his identity.

Though I could see a case where Naru beats Feral but Greyback shows up and wants revenge and we get a some hard feelings or a chase and he loses her. Which might be a good contrast to Predator 2 where despite the loss he lets Harrigan go. Suggesting he's matured a bit in the 200 some years since this.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Wweyland on Jun 21, 2022, 11:27:51 AM
I already like the fact that this would stray away from the "only the first movie counts" aesthetic that Predators went with (only referenced Dutch), but thankfully The Predator didn't (even referenced AvP).
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 21, 2022, 11:44:40 AM
Yes thankfully that confines The Predator to the AVP and AVPR shithole.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: chrisr232007 on Jun 21, 2022, 05:23:47 PM
My theory is that this new predator is either a bad blood or acting outside the clans traditions and Greyback shows up at the end and kills him while not intentionally save the girl.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 21, 2022, 05:32:51 PM
Please no.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Spartansniper619 on Jun 25, 2022, 10:01:19 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jun 21, 2022, 05:23:47 PMMy theory is that this new predator is either a bad blood or acting outside the clans traditions and Greyback shows up at the end and kills him while not intentionally save the girl.

I don't think it will happen but I'd like that actually.

Showing in his cave/fortune camp or even ship that he has predators skulls or trophies of some sort would be enough to get the point across, no need to expand for hours, it's also an opportunity to have a "Pred vs Pred" fight again, like in Predators but minus the shitty "our super-predator is better than the old one look !" message.

And MOSTLY, it means a Predator end the movie winning in a certain way, not looking that bad to me...
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Highland on Jun 26, 2022, 01:43:10 PM
No way the Pred lives. I can see elder doing an AVP at the end, but that would be weird(ish) since it's already been done.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2022, 02:26:11 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Yautja888 on Jun 26, 2022, 06:51:18 PM
Failed opportunity, Grayback first hunt would have been an instant win.
Perhaps he will have a cameo, a post credit scene of something.
I can see them using a pratical suit and a cgi face, apparently no one
can do that kind of facial design anymore except fan made costume makers. :laugh:
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Wweyland on Jun 28, 2022, 09:24:12 PM
What if they do the impossible this time and the Predator lives?
There's a last-minute team-up of Naru and Feral vs. The Poachers.
They already started on the right foot with Feral saving Naru from the bear.
Title: Re: New spin on the pistol origin story?
Post by: Highland on Jun 29, 2022, 02:28:06 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 28, 2022, 09:24:12 PMWhat if they do the impossible this time and the Predator lives?
There's a last-minute team-up of Naru and Feral vs. The Poachers.
They already started on the right foot with Feral saving Naru from the bear.

I wouldn't be completely against it, but the threat of the poachers isn't high enough for the Pred to give a toss. Plus we see her camo'd up in the trailer. 

I reckon this is just Predator updated. I'm ok with that also.