Seriously, why does it find flares so interesting, I mean, it doesn't even have eyes! Does this confirm it sees electromagnetism? Even so, why does it care about a stupid flare?
Because if the Alien was as good as Kane's son, the game would be impossible.
It sees the same way it does in Alien3.
As for why it's fascinated by flares - child of the 70's.
Quote from: SM on Oct 24, 2014, 02:21:25 AM
It sees the same way it does in Alien3.
As for why it's fascinated by flares - child of the 70's.
Echo-location?
:laugh:
Light bouncing off objects and onto the back of whatever passes from an Alien's retina.
That too.
They dribble a lot.
The do.
They*
Ayyy well played.
If it used echo-location it couldn't see flares through closed doors of sufficient thickness
Also it would hum roger waters songs every time a flare was thrown.
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Is he? Damn, so I could've used them when I was low on flamethrower fuel or noisemakers. And I wondered why there were so many flares scattered around when there was no point in using them since I had a flashlight.
Quote from: Xhan on Oct 24, 2014, 03:41:52 AM
If it used echo-location it couldn't see flares through closed doors of sufficient thickness
Also it would hum roger waters songs every time a flare was thrown.
Well, being as light is a form of electromagnetism, seeing electromagnetism like a shark would solve the problem, no?
The Alien is curious. It would've been cool to see more examples of it being curious about its environment here and there.
Quote from: Aliens Dude on Oct 24, 2014, 05:51:08 AM
Quote from: Xhan on Oct 24, 2014, 03:41:52 AM
If it used echo-location it couldn't see flares through closed doors of sufficient thickness
Also it would hum roger waters songs every time a flare was thrown.
Well, being as light is a form of electromagnetism, seeing electromagnetism like a shark would solve the problem, no?
Why not just go with what's on film and have it see light?
I think the reason that everyone tries to come up with different ways for it to see is because it has no visible eyes. But that doesn't mean it doesn't actually have some kind of ocular organ. The original alien had a transparent skull, with very obvious eye sockets. It could easily just have very small but sensitive eyes that blend in with the rest of it's head very well.
Possibly.
The only thing we know for sure is a:
they hear in a quadraphonic set up,
they can see for sure in the same range we do,
they can see in a range of unknown bandwidth we can't (avp, alien, alien3, a:r)
and that echolocation and pheromones would be secondary sets at best, if at all, because neither works in closed environments and contrary to popular belief, pheromones are shit for hunting, only useful for determining on site states of being,
and they have some kind of means of tracking stuff at long distances through very very shielded materials, as long as it isn't small girls.
http://gamegossip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21653 (http://gamegossip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21653)
I personally don't need an explanation; I like the mystery of the alien. But... it could just hear the hiss of the flare and be curious about it.
Quote from: PsyKore on Oct 24, 2014, 06:19:41 AM
The Alien is curious. It would've been cool to see more examples of it being curious about its environment here and there.
It has been there for what..? A two-three weeks. I'm pretty sure it has seen everything there is to see (we visit the entire Sevastopol during one day or so). About the unhealthy interest in flares:
Spoiler
we know there are a few xenos on the station. Maybe we don't encounter the same one everytime. I wish it was not the case - I really didn't like the whole "hive purge" idea and multiple xenos running away into the station. Maybe some of them don't know what the flare is.
Quote from: Aliens Dude on Oct 24, 2014, 01:30:14 AM
Seriously, why does it find flares so interesting, I mean, it doesn't even have eyes! Does this confirm it sees electromagnetism? Even so, why does it care about a stupid flare?
Probably a nod to the unfilmed scene of the Alien being attracted to an alarm light in the original film.
Quote from: SM on Oct 24, 2014, 06:30:26 AM
Quote from: Aliens Dude on Oct 24, 2014, 05:51:08 AM
Quote from: Xhan on Oct 24, 2014, 03:41:52 AM
If it used echo-location it couldn't see flares through closed doors of sufficient thickness
Also it would hum roger waters songs every time a flare was thrown.
Well, being as light is a form of electromagnetism, seeing electromagnetism like a shark would solve the problem, no?
Why not just go with what's on film and have it see light?
Because it doesn't have eyes?
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Do you see?
DO YOU SEE!!
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 24, 2014, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: Aliens Dude on Oct 24, 2014, 01:30:14 AM
Seriously, why does it find flares so interesting, I mean, it doesn't even have eyes! Does this confirm it sees electromagnetism? Even so, why does it care about a stupid flare?
Probably a nod to the unfilmed scene of the Alien being attracted to an alarm light in the original film.
That was exactly my thought when I saw it the first time!
Deep.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 24, 2014, 03:07:51 PM
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Do you see?
DO YOU SEE!!
My point exactly.
Quoteand they have some kind of means of tracking stuff at long distances through very very shielded materials, as long as it isn't small girls.
Prime real estate under a big fan. I'm sure of it.
Also teddy bear baffling camo
Pffft....im fascinated by flares. You guys would own me if I was stalking you.
Quote from: PsyKore on Oct 24, 2014, 06:19:41 AM
The Alien is curious. It would've been cool to see more examples of it being curious about its environment here and there.
it would have been much more cooler to see someone gets raped by it
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 24, 2014, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: Aliens Dude on Oct 24, 2014, 01:30:14 AM
Seriously, why does it find flares so interesting, I mean, it doesn't even have eyes! Does this confirm it sees electromagnetism? Even so, why does it care about a stupid flare?
Probably a nod to the unfilmed scene of the Alien being attracted to an alarm light in the original film.
This is along what I was thinking. I like the idea of the Alien being curious about stuff.
Quote from: szkoki on Oct 27, 2014, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Oct 24, 2014, 06:19:41 AM
The Alien is curious. It would've been cool to see more examples of it being curious about its environment here and there.
it would have been much more cooler to see someone gets raped by it
This is actually a good point. I would've liked to have seen it, or heard it, kill people in more disturbing or torturous ways now and then. It became rather generic how it always just ran at people, headbite, repeat.
That's generally what it does though.
It does, but more slowness/theatrics/creepiness here and there would be nice. As it stands, he just runs at people like Pacman.
Got killed for the first time in medical, must use flares next time I try :)
I died so many times in that mission. Good luck.
Quote from: tavianini19 on Oct 28, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
I died so many times in that mission. Good luck.
Flares worked, just got a bit courageous and died again. FML.
I've got the moment the alien checks out a flare in one of my videos, at around the 25min mark the Alien kills a bunch of people and then goes and squats over a flare... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POVqwR28Y_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POVqwR28Y_w)
The reason the Alien finds flares so interesting is because T-Rex did in Jurassic Park, then Velociraptors in Turok, and now any alien whether it be in Call of Duty: Ghosts (Extinction) or Alien: Isolation.
Or because, you know...
INT. AIR LOCK - "B" DECK
Low servo whine.
Door opens.
Slowly.
Green light throbbing inside air lock.
Creature looks curiously at it.
Moves onto the threshold.
INT. PASSAGEWAY - "B" LEVEL
Parker watches...
INT. AIR LOCK
Creature move further into air lock.
Fascinated by green light.
No, it's not that; the Alien is probably fascinated by unexpected things, but the concept of flares was born in Jurassic Park, I believe, which then flowed into other media.
So nothing to do with the original shooting script - but everything to do with dinosaurs...
Well, I don't see an option that lets you turn the lights on or off to distract it.
Good to see that you're still vexing people, Predxeno.
He's one of those damned vexers.
Quote from: predxeno on Oct 30, 2014, 05:25:45 AM
but the concept of flares was born in Jurassic Park, I believe,
Uh, China in the 13th century, but hey...
I meant the concept of using flares to manipulate the movement of hostile creatures, SiL.
The alien does the exact same action if you throw a flash bang near him, I don't think there's anything deeper to it than he's surprised by something happening suddenly.
Quote from: predxeno on Oct 30, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
I meant the concept of using flares to manipulate the movement of hostile creatures, SiL.
Prisoners carry flares at the end of
Alien 3, probably to direct its attention and lead it through the tunnels (being live bait helps, but the flares supposedly hone its attention on particular prisoners who will lead it into the leadworks.)
Really? Which scenes were those in? Either way, I don't think any real emphasis was placed on that, I got the impression the flares were used more for light than anything else.
Quote from: predxeno on Oct 30, 2014, 05:10:29 PM
Really? Which scenes were those in? Either way, I don't think any real emphasis was placed on that, I got the impression the flares were used more for light than anything else.
At the end. Not all of the prisoners carry them, and it's pretty well lit down there, with electric lighting throughout. I doubt it was the inspiration though, that likely comes from the original
Alien script.
The 3 people who first encountered the alien in the tunnels before the Bishop and medbay scene (medbay AiiieeaiiYaay!) already had a metal flare on a stick thing.
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 30, 2014, 05:11:54 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Oct 30, 2014, 05:10:29 PM
Really? Which scenes were those in? Either way, I don't think any real emphasis was placed on that, I got the impression the flares were used more for light than anything else.
At the end. Not all of the prisoners carry them, and it's pretty well lit down there, with electric lighting throughout. I doubt it was the inspiration though, that likely comes from the original Alien script.
Huh, I'll have to check that out again, but I still have doubts that the Alien was further attracted to them because of the flares; if the director wanted the Alien to be attracted to the flares then he would have made the flares brighter and the environment darker in comparison.
Quote from: predxeno on Oct 30, 2014, 05:31:57 PM
if the director wanted the Alien to be attracted to the flares then he would have made the flares brighter and the environment darker in comparison.
And then the prisoners would be unable to see.
But it's not like that particular director got his way on that film, even complaining about the lighting: "I could not get the screen to be black, I couldn't get the creature to come out of the shadows unseen."
But it's beginning to become moot: C.A. seem more definitively inspired by the unused scene from Alien than an interesting but inconsequential thing from the third movie.
Quote from: predxeno on Oct 30, 2014, 05:04:50 AM
The reason the Alien finds flares so interesting is because T-Rex did in Jurassic Park, then Velociraptors in Turok, and now any alien whether it be in Call of Duty: Ghosts (Extinction) or Alien: Isolation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weMpv14cW9U#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weMpv14cW9U#ws)
all aliens like light and they like the glow of the color that is a percfect time to run away.
Guess what's back in the new Jurassic World movie?