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Posted by The Old One
 - Sep 16, 2019, 04:34:05 PM
Yeah, I don't exactly regard the Weyland timeline as canon.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - Sep 10, 2019, 03:02:54 PM
Quote from: FenGiddel on Sep 09, 2019, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Sep 09, 2019, 01:48:07 AM
If it is to be, my friend, it is up to thee.
It _is_ on my list... [emoji6]


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To be clear, I am not playing along, for all the reasons I've stated previously, I'm not going to take the bait....
...but if I were going to play with justifying the absurdity then...

The colonies would have to be akin to the lost 12 colonies of Kobol, or like, the reclusive isolationist enclave from The Village, but like a highly advertised version with like a hundred supposedly lost colonies that take, on average, half a century to reach. A magic hugely enticing promise out in the middle of nowhere where no one has ever reported back from.

If we were exploring the idea In-Universe, then it would most likely be a false promise or a too-good-to-be-true trap, like Star Trek Voyager's massive spaceborne telepathic pitcher plant creature from "Bliss" (which, remarkably, there is precedent for in the Aliens Universe), or the paradise vacation where winning contestants are supposedly sent, in "The Running Man". Space lambs to the slaughter, yo.
Posted by FenGiddel
 - Sep 09, 2019, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Sep 09, 2019, 01:48:07 AM
If it is to be, my friend, it is up to thee.
It _is_ on my list... [emoji6]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Posted by SpaceKase
 - Sep 09, 2019, 08:23:22 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 09, 2019, 01:51:08 AM
The colonies are okay - the date of their founding; not so much.

To be clear, no one is debating the possibility of mid to late 21st century colonies, only the nonsense of these purported colonies at their specifically far-beyond-rational locations.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 09, 2019, 01:51:08 AM
The colonies are okay - the date of their founding; not so much.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - Sep 09, 2019, 01:48:07 AM
Quote from: FenGiddel on Sep 08, 2019, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: Predator@Alien on Sep 07, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
Oh yes indeed... The mistakes of the colonies of the Prometheus Website are a little unforgivable !

Or perhaps worthy of exploring and justifying, in-universe.

Aaaaah! No dice, ye tricky devil. S/he who smelt it, dealt it. If it is to be, my friend, it is up to thee.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 08, 2019, 08:45:51 PM
Quite.  ;)
Posted by FenGiddel
 - Sep 08, 2019, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: Predator@Alien on Sep 07, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
Oh yes indeed... The mistakes of the colonies of the Prometheus Website are a little unforgivable !

Or perhaps worthy of exploring and justifying, in-universe.


Quote from: SM on Sep 08, 2019, 09:25:06 AM
It's simultaneously flattering and infuriating. 
Oh, for the heady days when the internet was young, when you were ignored by the IP owner/franchisee, and the worst that might happen is the work got copied (sans credit) on another fan's website... It really puts a damper on one's ideas for sharing new and original content, even things that use movie production material as a springboard. At least, that's what I hear...
Posted by SpaceKase
 - Sep 08, 2019, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: SM on Sep 08, 2019, 09:25:06 AM
I used Winchell's map as a basic starting point because it was big enough to encompass Epsilon Reticuli (which is where I placed Thedus).  Then I ripped the guts out and re-did it.

I guess Charles de Lauzirika was ultimately responsible for the maps on the blu-rays and all the pilfering of them (and other stuff I'd done).  It's simultaneously flattering and infuriating.  They did inspire me to rework my map though, 'cos their one looked cooler.  It's similar to 'working with' Fria Ligan.  I spoke to them last year and I was supposed to be working on the RPG, but apart from the occasional email asking for some bit of info or 'can we use...?' the work never materialised.

Wow, that is incredibly lame, I'm truly sorry to hear that that's how things went down.

"Turn all her mother's pains and benefits
To laughter and contempt; that she may feel
How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is
To have a thankless child."

Or in the eloquent phrasing of Brett: "Same old shit, man."

I'm really glad to hear that you've got a more copacetic relation with the Box Network nowadays and I'm really glad you're continuing on with your work. And hey, now you're in an exclusive club, with members the likes of HR Giger and Dan O'Bannon, as spiritual cohorts go, not too shabby.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 08, 2019, 09:25:06 AM
I used Winchell's map as a basic starting point because it was big enough to encompass Epsilon Reticuli (which is where I placed Thedus).  Then I ripped the guts out and re-did it.

I guess Charles de Lauzirika was ultimately responsible for the maps on the blu-rays and all the pilfering of them (and other stuff I'd done).  It's simultaneously flattering and infuriating.  They did inspire me to rework my map though, 'cos their one looked cooler.  It's similar to 'working with' Fria Ligan.  I spoke to them last year and I was supposed to be working on the RPG, but apart from the occasional email asking for some bit of info or 'can we use...?' the work never materialised.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - Sep 08, 2019, 03:25:07 AM
Ah, right-oh! And your map originally evolved from Winchell Chung's work didn't it? If you don't mind the probing questions of a pop-cultural anthropologist, what's the story behind that map ending up on the Bluray menus? And who was responsible for making the modifications they chose for their final presentation? Apologies if the subject is a bone of contention or anything.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 08, 2019, 03:03:32 AM
I'm only involved around the periphery.  The map doing the rounds is a souped up version of mine.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - Sep 08, 2019, 02:32:57 AM
Quote from: Predator@Alien on Sep 07, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
Oh yes indeed... The mistakes of the colonies of the Prometheus Website are a little unforgivable !

But is that something I miss or what ? : On a lot of maps here, I can see Tau Ceti as the closest star of the Sun but it is not right, no ? The closest are the three Centauri stars. And Tau Ceti is at 12 LY from us so... Did I miss something ?

"C'est un esprit bidimensionnel." - Mgr. Spock, la Colère de Khan.

It may be an illusion of perspective you are seeing, my friend. Here's three different angles of the Core Systems for a different perspective.





I hope this helps a little, it can make one's eyes go crossed.


Quote from: SM on Sep 07, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
...

I believe we'll find many of the Weyland colonies and other EU colonies in the RPG.


Nice! You're talking about the Free League RPG that's coming out, right? Are you involved in the creation of any of the artwork for that or are you strictly consulting? I saw a low res image of a map for the book somewhere and it looks awesome so far. I have to stay away from RPGs myself, my poor, slow-processing, little computer brain has enough trouble crunching finite data, open ended and/or freeform art leave it alternatively broken or awestruck. Awestruck if I'm lucky. You guys seem off to a killer start though, when does the sourcebook drop?
Posted by SM
 - Sep 07, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
Having colonies in that time period wasn't crazy, but the distances on many of them were impossible.

As for real locations in the EU - they're very thin on the ground.  I just went through an old list I had and when you take out locations on our Solar System and Zeta 2 Reticuli - there were four.  Rising Threat had a reference to Andromeda, which I suggested was changed to 51 Andromeda or Zeta Andromeda or similar (ie. somewhere in our galaxy).

Dust to Dust and Dead Orbit don't reference real locations.  Defiance starts off in Doradus, which is the same general area of sky as Reticulum.

I believe we'll find many of the Weyland colonies and other EU colonies in the RPG.

Posted by Still Collating...
 - Sep 07, 2019, 07:48:15 PM
Damn, so the Prometheus marketing colonies were not only crazy when it came to the time period, but even more crazy when it came to the distance? Yeah, I can not consider that canon anymore at all, that's just too much.
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