Disney in talks to buy Fox. What could this mean for Alien and Predator?

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The Old One

The Old One

#1230
Concrete Jungle FTW.

Huggs

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 24, 2019, 02:21:00 AM
What the Hell even is this franchise  :laugh:

A mess and likely comatose thanks to Shane Black.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 24, 2019, 02:21:00 AM
Predator is one of those franchises it's wrong it's so goofy but at the same time I would be more than willing to watch a super powered slugfest with Predators. Morbid curiosity maybe, but growing up on Concrete Jungle, if the Predator picked a fight with Moon Knight or even Darkhawk that wouldn't be the weirdest thing this franchise has ever done and we had spec-ops hookers. What the Hell even is this franchise  :laugh:

I mean now that I think about it, was Predator destined to be this way and Concrete Jungle was a hidden agonized attempt to warn us? I mean ex-porn star hookers gone spec-ops, enhanced brain washed predators, Aliens that appear out of nowhere,and a forced human/Predator hybrid? Like Hunter Borgia was just a stand in for the Super Predator when you think about it....

At yet to be fair, Concrete Jungle was fun to play while The Predator was not that fun to watch.... :-\ and I don't say that proudly

The Old One

The Old One

#1233
Predator's destiny if it progresses AVP IMO.

Predator deserves it's own universe.

Kradan

Quote from: The Old One on Mar 24, 2019, 04:31:05 AM
Predator deserves it's own universe.

That's true.

But what's also true is that we deserve one good AVP movie and i'm sure it can be done right.

Perfect-Organism

Quote from: Kradan on Mar 24, 2019, 07:54:36 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 24, 2019, 04:31:05 AM
Predator deserves it's own universe.

That's true.

But what's also true is that we deserve one good AVP movie and i'm sure it can be done right.

Adapt the original AVP series and be done with it.  It will capture the moment when everyone was in love with the idea.  Then let it go.

SuperiorIronman

The Predator may in some respects might've worked better as a videogame in that case because as ridiculous as Concrete Jungle was, people tend to like it. Then again, Fox has no idea what people want out of Alien and Predator games so they might've just made it into an arcade title or mobile game like they usually do. A part of me just realized that I'm probably as lenient on The Predator as I am because Concrete Jungle beat it to the punch by 13 years and is now kind of mad we didn't get an adaptation of that with bulked out Hunter and a snarky Predator.




Still Collating...

I love how ridiculous Concrete Jungle was. At least the predators there are treated as hunters...

Predator 2: Look how fun and silly we can get!
Concrete Jungle: Hold my beer...

I'd rather see Concrete Jungle done as a movie than The Predator. With CJ we know how dramatic, over the top and ridiculous it is from the very beginning. Most importantly, it's fun. The Predator for me and looking at the reviews, for many was not. When will these guys get it that Suburbia is a horrible setting for a predator. And a dark forest does not make something automatically scary Shane....  :P

Pick a tone and stick to it. Pick a good setting. Respect that the predators are hunters. Always keep a bit of that tribal aspect. Show new weapons and tactics the predator uses. Keep the story simple and logical, just spice up the substance.

Concrete Jungle is a really good example for me personally. It's on over the top and on the edge of being acceptably fun, but all the elements are combined well. IMO it works.

SuperiorIronman

Quote from: Still Collating... on Mar 24, 2019, 01:33:44 PM
I love how ridiculous Concrete Jungle was. At least the predators there are treated as hunters...

Predator 2: Look how fun and silly we can get!
Concrete Jungle: Hold my beer...

I'd rather see Concrete Jungle done as a movie than The Predator. With CJ we know how dramatic, over the top and ridiculous it is from the very beginning. Most importantly, it's fun. The Predator for me and looking at the reviews, for many was not. When will these guys get it that Suburbia is a horrible setting for a predator. And a dark forest does not make something automatically scary Shane....  :P

Pick a tone and stick to it. Pick a good setting. Respect that the predators are hunters. Always keep a bit of that tribal aspect. Show new weapons and tactics the predator uses. Keep the story simple and logical, just spice up the substance.

Concrete Jungle is a really good example for me personally. It's on over the top and on the edge of being acceptably fun, but all the elements are combined well. IMO it works.

The Predator was played more or less like a dark comedy when it was shot. It had a tone, it's just that the studio screwed him on that when people at the test-screening freaked out. The problem in things like the re-shoots caused the tone to be all over the map. Shane Black can do dramatic moments and seriousness just fine, but he is a snarky director and we've seen some of the memos he sent to the cast (and that guy just rambles whatever the Hell he wants). With Shane Black it should be clear from the word "go" that he would do something a bit more wild.

Concrete Jungle would make an excellent movie since the more wild elements of the franchise are pretty much what you come to see. I just don't want to see people try to recreate Predator 1987 again since Predator 2 has so much personality it pretty much defined how these creatures act and how this universe works.

Xenomorphine

Both series have been crossed over with all sorts of stuff in the past. I wouldn't object to them doing so with Marvel characters, so long as it's kept to comics, games and so on. Cinematic canon would be different.

Perfect-Organism

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 26, 2019, 09:50:33 PM
Both series have been crossed over with all sorts of stuff in the past. I wouldn't object to them doing so with Marvel characters, so long as it's kept to comics, games and so on. Cinematic canon would be different.

That's about right.  Comics ok.  Films, no.

Kradan

What i do remember from hstory lessons back in the scool is the simple fact:

Empires are always fall eventually. Always. Think about that.

Huggs

Quote from: Kradan on Mar 27, 2019, 03:26:03 PM
What i do remember from hstory lessons back in the scool is the simple fact:

Empires are always fall eventually. Always. Think about that.

You're thinking of that Gandhi quote.

Perfect-Organism

This Disney thing will fall.  Naturally.  The marvel superhero films just have to stop bringing in money, the gravy train grinds to a halt.

Huggs

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 27, 2019, 06:51:18 PM
This Disney thing will fall.  Naturally.  The marvel superhero films just have to stop bringing in money, the gravy train grinds to a halt.

It's going to take a huge scandal or a miracle to stop super hero and animated movies from making bank.

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