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Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - May 06, 2016, 10:44:49 PM
A summation of all the information from Jenette Goldstein's usual stories in interviews assembled in her Vasquez/Aliens interviews,, probably a few more snippets to add to it, and it will continue to evolve

http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/1986/05/aliens-jenette-goldstein-plays-vasquez.html
Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - Apr 27, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
I've made some updates to the section Alien: Filming The Chestburster Scene http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/alien-filming-chestburster-scene.html because a section from Roger Christian's forthcoming book Cinema Alchemy dealing with Alien's chest burster scene was published, so mainly in that sections "Kane starts to choke", "Setting Up The Shot", "False Start", " Emerging from a pit of entrails" and mainly "The Splattering" have been updated with various small bits of information.

But of course you might want to read the Empire article instead http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/alien-chestburster-scene/
Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - Mar 26, 2016, 10:03:54 AM
Well, indeed, if Brando phoned people up and talked about Alien in the middle of the night, I'd want to know about it.


But indeed a book of Kubrick Over The Phone would be very important if the contents could possibly be extracted from the various brains of people who had them.
Posted by 426Buddy
 - Mar 24, 2016, 11:44:02 AM
OT I've heard Brando used to call people in the middle of the night just to ramble on about random things.
Posted by OmegaZilla
 - Mar 24, 2016, 07:47:18 AM
They should do an anthology film about it. "Kubrick over the Phone"
Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - Mar 21, 2016, 10:54:19 AM
All these Kubrick over the phone stories seem to be very brief.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Mar 21, 2016, 09:39:20 AM
Very brief but interesting none-the-less!
Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - Mar 19, 2016, 04:48:38 PM
Odd little story from Ridley about Kubrick's interest in Alien.

http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/1979/03/alien-kubrick-wanted-to-know-about.html
Posted by Elmazalman
 - Feb 28, 2016, 01:14:44 AM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Feb 27, 2016, 11:53:03 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 27, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Feb 27, 2016, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 26, 2016, 09:16:16 PM

I think it was filmed by having an establishing shot of the 'box' (Bolaji or a contortionist) in the corridor followed by extreme close-up shots of limbs and head unfolding (contortionist).The Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine mentioned that some shots of the Alien folded up as a box were done in close-up.That may explain why no photo's or footage of the prop exist-there never was a Alien box prop to begin with.

Well, I'm not sure why anyone is expecting to find a box prop anyway.


You once speculated that it could have been some type of inflatable prop or suit?

If it was just a performer in the suit squatting,you're left with the problem of how to obscure the prominent dorsal tubes which would have broken up the more box-like form that W.S. described-unless it was a full frontal angle like the crab-walk outtake,but the deleted Alien-in-corridor footage clearly shows the creature in profile.

Yes, I speculated that the suit would have been inflated, so they might put an inflatable doll or something inside of some sort,  but Walter Simonson felt it was someone inside so I gave up on the inflatable doll or whatever inside and has I continued with that thought and no one could find anything about an inflatable something or inside I wouldn't worry too much. Other thoughts I've had has that perhaps a performer had his lower half in the space beneath a floor in postproduction but I can't really imagine the scene. So was there something else cobbled together from bits of the alien suit around an armature for a box like shape for someone to pop out of, i haven't got a clue but I'm not relying on there to be such a thing. They were creating other things in postproduction like other little facehuggers on the back of the Narcissus and we haven't seen them either.

I've seen the different bits of the scene that show Bolaji in the suit crouching down on the floor and Walter says it wasn't what he was talking about, so I'm going with him thinking that there was something else shot that was deliberately strange, so it seemed that more than one person thought it was folded up like a box since there's the report from the Famous Monsters of Filmland as well that's based on an interview with O'Bannon mentioned in a way quite separate from Walter's statement..

Well, the dorsal tubes would have to be removed to have seem like a box, or indeed the performer in the suit would be crouched on his side.
Having the performer in the suit lying on the deck curled up in a foetal position facing the camera-from a distance and obscured by steam-he would look compact and box-like.
Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - Feb 27, 2016, 11:53:03 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 27, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Feb 27, 2016, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 26, 2016, 09:16:16 PM

I think it was filmed by having an establishing shot of the 'box' (Bolaji or a contortionist) in the corridor followed by extreme close-up shots of limbs and head unfolding (contortionist).The Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine mentioned that some shots of the Alien folded up as a box were done in close-up.That may explain why no photo's or footage of the prop exist-there never was a Alien box prop to begin with.

Well, I'm not sure why anyone is expecting to find a box prop anyway.


You once speculated that it could have been some type of inflatable prop or suit?

If it was just a performer in the suit squatting,you're left with the problem of how to obscure the prominent dorsal tubes which would have broken up the more box-like form that W.S. described-unless it was a full frontal angle like the crab-walk outtake,but the deleted Alien-in-corridor footage clearly shows the creature in profile.

Yes, I speculated that the suit would have been inflated, so they might put an inflatable doll or something inside of some sort,  but Walter Simonson felt it was someone inside so I gave up on the inflatable doll or whatever inside and has I continued with that thought and no one could find anything about an inflatable something or inside I wouldn't worry too much. Other thoughts I've had has that perhaps a performer had his lower half in the space beneath a floor in postproduction but I can't really imagine the scene. So was there something else cobbled together from bits of the alien suit around an armature for a box like shape for someone to pop out of, i haven't got a clue but I'm not relying on there to be such a thing. They were creating other things in postproduction like other little facehuggers on the back of the Narcissus and we haven't seen them either.

I've seen the different bits of the scene that show Bolaji in the suit crouching down on the floor and Walter says it wasn't what he was talking about, so I'm going with him thinking that there was something else shot that was deliberately strange, so it seemed that more than one person thought it was folded up like a box since there's the report from the Famous Monsters of Filmland as well that's based on an interview with O'Bannon mentioned in a way quite separate from Walter's statement..

Well, the dorsal tubes would have to be removed to have seem like a box, or indeed the performer in the suit would be crouched on his side.
Posted by Elmazalman
 - Feb 27, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Feb 27, 2016, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 26, 2016, 09:16:16 PM

I think it was filmed by having an establishing shot of the 'box' (Bolaji or a contortionist) in the corridor followed by extreme close-up shots of limbs and head unfolding (contortionist).The Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine mentioned that some shots of the Alien folded up as a box were done in close-up.That may explain why no photo's or footage of the prop exist-there never was a Alien box prop to begin with.

Well, I'm not sure why anyone is expecting to find a box prop anyway.


You once speculated that it could have been some type of inflatable prop or suit?

If it was just a performer in the suit squatting,you're left with the problem of how to obscure the prominent dorsal tubes which would have broken up the more box-like form that W.S. described-unless it was a full frontal angle like the crab-walk outtake,but the deleted Alien-in-corridor footage clearly shows the creature in profile.
Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - Feb 27, 2016, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 26, 2016, 09:16:16 PM

I think it was filmed by having an establishing shot of the 'box' (Bolaji or a contortionist) in the corridor followed by extreme close-up shots of limbs and head unfolding (contortionist).The Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine mentioned that some shots of the Alien folded up as a box were done in close-up.That may explain why no photo's or footage of the prop exist-there never was a Alien box prop to begin with.

Well, I'm not sure why anyone is expecting to find a box prop anyway.

Bolaji was a flexible person but to what extent I don't know and then I noticed that Ian Holm noticed body contortionists on the actual set and I wonder if that was before or after they decided to have Bolaji or if Ian Holm was generalising. So the question to define it goes on a but further.

Beyond that, I'm thinking about Bolaji being put in suits or parts of the suit with the pieces cut open at the side to make it easier for him to fold up but it wouldn't look good if they showed him standing up in it.
Posted by Elmazalman
 - Feb 26, 2016, 09:16:16 PM


At present I'm wondering if it might be a small sized contortionist unfolding in parts of the suit much too big for the person.
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I think it was filmed by having an establishing shot of the 'box' (Bolaji or a contortionist) in the corridor followed by extreme close-up shots of limbs and head unfolding (contortionist).The Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine mentioned that some shots of the Alien folded up as a box were done in close-up.That may explain why no photo's or footage of the prop exist-there never was a Alien box prop to begin with.
Posted by wmmvrrvrrmm
 - Feb 26, 2016, 09:56:10 AM

Helen Mirren talked about her audition for Ripley, so here're the quotes from the Empire magazine that just came out and the Vulture from a few years ago. Not sure about her celebrity status in the US but England she's a still household name

http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/alien-helen-mirren-auditioned-for-ripley.html


Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 23, 2016, 09:24:59 PM
I so badly want to see the Box Alien footage found-if it was filmed.Or even some sort of CGI reconstruction done by a fan.

At present I'm wondering if it might be a small sized contortionist unfolding in parts of the suit much too big for the person, but I'm wondering if this abstract detail from Biomechanical Landscape IIa might have played a part in the inspiration for the shape




http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/1979/11/origins-of-ridleys-compacted-alien-idea.html
Posted by Whiskeybrewer
 - Feb 25, 2016, 01:14:02 PM
That version of the Great Beast would have been perfect
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