A few people are messaging Harry Gregson-Williams on Facebook asking if he's still working on the film since he has been removed from Covenant's IMDB page.
Interesting, wonder why he would be removed from imdb? Seems strange.
This is when it turns out his son leaked all those pictures over the weekend and they fired him over it?
Man, that would be terrible. Most people take NDA's really seriously and it's always a little careless slip-up that causes serious breaches like the one we have. (Unless that stuff was intentionally leaked) I've worked under NDA's my entire career and it would actually break my heart to betray someone's trust like this..
Hopefully he's not been fired, I like his work.
Strange, I wouldn't pay it much heed at this stage however, IMDb had Danny Webb in the casting for a long while lol
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Oct 31, 2016, 07:51:48 AM
Strange, I wouldn't pay it much heed at this stage however, IMDb had Danny Webb in the casting for a long while lol
True, true. Never inherently trust IMDB. Hopefully he'll say something about it.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:10:43 AM
A few people are messaging Harry Gregson-Williams on Facebook asking if he's still working on the film since he has been removed from Covenant's IMDB page.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:18:23 AM
This is when it turns out his son leaked all those pictures over the weekend and they fired him over it?
Too late for that now. They've already recorded the score for the film. He will be duly paid and credited.
However, if he is culpable then he shouldn't expect to get much work in the future.
What leaked pictures?
And wasn't his "son" on IMDb giving away plot points?
Where is the info saying he is fired??? ???
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 31, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
Where is the info saying he is fired??? ???
It's just conjecture from the Corporal at this point.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 05:22:19 PM
What leaked pictures?
The one's from isitanygood.com.
QuoteAnd wasn't his "son" on IMDb giving away plot points?
Turns out he was telling the truth according to the Corporal's sources. Whether it was
actually his son....
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 31, 2016, 05:29:09 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 31, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
Where is the info saying he is fired??? ???
It's just conjecture from the Corporal at this point.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 05:22:19 PM
What leaked pictures?
The one's from isitanygood.com.
QuoteAnd wasn't his "son" on IMDb giving away plot points?
Turns out he was telling the truth according to the Corporal's sources. Whether it was actually his son....
Ah. Thought there were other leaked pictures he was referring to.
If Scott has completed his first cut of the movie, surely the editor should be announced by now? I assume it's Pietro Scalia, but since Arthur Max didn't come back, who knows?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 31, 2016, 05:29:09 PM
QuoteAnd wasn't his "son" on IMDb giving away plot points?
Turns out he was telling the truth according to the Corporal's sources. Whether it was actually his son....
Anyone have a link or remember what was said by this guy who claimed to be HG William' son?
If he was right about a few things...
He deleted the posts on IMDB unfortunately. But the general gist of it is somewhere earlier in this thread. Around the end of September I think.
thanks.
Here's the link to the IMDb thread, but as el Corpo said, he deleted most of his posts.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/board/flat/261579764?p=1 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/board/flat/261579764?p=1)
And what Himmelblau managed to capture before it was deleted:
Quote from: Himmelblau on Sep 22, 2016, 10:46:53 AM
A member named musicians son over on imdb posted a leaked info regarding covenant... It was taken down so guess it was real i was able to find out some of what he said and i will post it here:
Spoiler
QuoteJungle Setting, Backburster Aliens & Black Goo returns..
Some random guy gets infected by the Black Goo through his Ear. Then his spinecord explodes to reveal a never before seen creature which immediately attacks.
i can tell where the story is headed with this comment and it is deliciously horrifest fun! bring on the new and out with the old I say!
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 31, 2016, 09:33:55 PM
Here's the link to the IMDb thread, but as el Corpo said, he deleted most of his posts.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/board/flat/261579764?p=1 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/board/flat/261579764?p=1)
And what Himmelblau managed to capture before it was deleted:
Quote from: Himmelblau on Sep 22, 2016, 10:46:53 AM
A member named musicians son over on imdb posted a leaked info regarding covenant... It was taken down so guess it was real i was able to find out some of what he said and i will post it here:
Spoiler
QuoteJungle Setting, Backburster Aliens & Black Goo returns..
Some random guy gets infected by the Black Goo through his Ear. Then his spinecord explodes to reveal a never before seen creature which immediately attacks.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:10:43 AM
A few people are messaging Harry Gregson-Williams on Facebook asking if he's still working on the film since he has been removed from Covenant's IMDB page.
and...Harry Gregson-Williams just confirmed on his FB that he is no longer scoring Alien Covenant. Creative differences or trouble?
Quote from: Darkoo on Nov 01, 2016, 08:03:48 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:10:43 AM
A few people are messaging Harry Gregson-Williams on Facebook asking if he's still working on the film since he has been removed from Covenant's IMDB page.
and...Harry Gregson-Williams just confirmed on his FB that he is no longer scoring Alien Covenant. Creative differences or trouble?
Really? Link to post?
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 01, 2016, 08:16:16 AM
Quote from: Darkoo on Nov 01, 2016, 08:03:48 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:10:43 AM
A few people are messaging Harry Gregson-Williams on Facebook asking if he's still working on the film since he has been removed from Covenant's IMDB page.
and...Harry Gregson-Williams just confirmed on his FB that he is no longer scoring Alien Covenant. Creative differences or trouble?
Really? Link to post?
https://www.facebook.com/Harry-Gregson-Williams-13725844020/
In his visitor posts. Gonna do a post on this shortly.
Interesting. For some reason I doubt it's anything to do with the 'musicians son' leaks. Creative differences perhaps? Maybe Ridley wants something more akin to Jerry Goldsmith this time around?
I can't help but wonder if this is just some miscommunication. Does he mean they've just finished working on it? I mean, it was nearly finished at the end of September. I've asked for a bit of clarification.
Yea it could just mean he wasn't working on it at the moment, however it's more likely he got fired.
Would be a shame if he was fired. I really like his work on Prometheus and The Martian.
However, if he has been fired and the score has been recorded already does that mean Fox can still use it? Might be quite a complicated situation
If he hasn't scored it yet... Then what where all those recording pics about???
OMG... bad news.
I really like what he did for Prometheus.
.
Well...this is weird...
Let's hope for some good composer to replace him.
Didnt Fassbender say that Ridley already had a cut in the back of Covenant. So he could have already scored it and thats why he isnt?
Unless it really was his son who leaked everything, if so, someones gonna get a beating
Oh wow, no ones kid could be as dumb to leak photo's under a name that mimics his dad's profession... could there? In the worst case, what's the point of losing an entire score at this point. Unless they're going to refuse to pay him for it, in which case, the score is gone. f**k this is a barn burner.
Well i remember something similar happening on the news with a court case about money.
A deal was made where a company would pay a householder in an out of court settlement over something i cant remember and they had a NDA in place . But the guys daughter put a post on her Twitter and Facebook saying she was getting a free holiday and getting out of school, because of the money her dad was getting.
The company saw this and used it as an excuse to not pay the money as it broke the NDA in their eyes and the courts agreed. I think it was a couple of Million the family would have got if the daughter hadnt have said anything
......
They should've hired Goldenthal in the first place.
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 01, 2016, 08:31:53 AM
Interesting. For some reason I doubt it's anything to do with the 'musicians son' leaks. Creative differences perhaps? Maybe Ridley wants something more akin to Jerry Goldsmith this time around?
If he has indeed been fired and Fox is no longer using his score then it must be over creative differences.
If it was his son that leaked those pictures (
and this is massive speculation) then he would technically have breached his NDA.
But, it would be pointless to fire him this late into production and find another top-notch composer at such short notice. In such circumstances the guilty party is usually allowed to complete the job and will receive payment and official credits as due to them. They just shouldn't expect to find much work in the film industry in the future because it is really a very small community and word gets around.
If it was over creative differences then he must have had a really serious falling-out with either Fox or Scott.
Strange that he hasn't answered if he was fired or not... Imagine ruining the best chance for your dad's career cause you are jealous. :P
He's just replied - he's off Covenant. Not a miscommunication.
That's sad. He seemed excited. Maybe Ridley will employ Zimmer.
Strange. Wonder why ???
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 01, 2016, 05:43:26 PM
He's just replied - he's off Covenant. Not a miscommunication.
Quote from: Harry Gregson WilliamsI won't be scoring Covenant after all!
Almost sounds like he hasn't done anything on it at all. ???
What were all those recording sessions about? ???
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 01, 2016, 05:43:26 PM
He's just replied - he's off Covenant. Not a miscommunication.
Yep, i told him i love what he did for Prometheus.... and yep, sad news.
This is Composer Harry Gregson-Williams, second victim of Ridley's(first was Arthur Max), signing off.
Do you think Marc Streitenfeld will return for Covenant?.
I know Zimmer it´s imposible....
Quote from: John Doe on Nov 01, 2016, 06:05:38 PM
Do you think Marc Streitenfeld will return for Covenant?.
I know Zimmer it´s imposible....
I hope it's not Streitenfeld.
Michael Giacchino will save the day.
Could he have only been doing work on it to match his 'THEME' in PROMETHEUS? He only did 2 songs for that, no?
Another possibility is just that FOX wants to remove the film from PROMETHEUS? But recent leaks suggest that isn't the case. I actually rather dislike the score for PROMETHEUS. It felt kinda bland to me.
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 01, 2016, 12:18:13 PM
Well i remember something similar happening on the news with a court case about money.
A deal was made where a company would pay a householder in an out of court settlement over something i cant remember and they had a NDA in place . But the guys daughter put a post on her Twitter and Facebook saying she was getting a free holiday and getting out of school, because of the money her dad was getting.
The company saw this and used it as an excuse to not pay the money as it broke the NDA in their eyes and the courts agreed. I think it was a couple of Million the family would have got if the daughter hadnt have said anything
LOL!!!! I remember this story. People seriously need to learn what "NDA" means... and that Facebook isn't exactly a place to store all your secrets on. Even with things set on private, you never know. I bet she was stupid enough to set it on "public" for all the world to see... GOOD! :laugh:
Anyway, as for this situation, I really hope it wasn't due to the same reason... who would be stupid enough to get their parent fired by leaking something? We don't know for sure, that could've been anyone using that name, but still, a bit suspicious. Maybe it was creative differences, as others have stated.
I'd happily take Zimmer. Though Penderecki would be a dream come true.
Where did this theory of the son leaking the pictures come from? I probably missed it in the midst of this news bombardment.
Harry's departure seems odd indeed. I guess they'll bring either Streitenfeld or Zimmer (both great choices in my opinion).
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 01, 2016, 06:43:43 PM
I'd happily take Zimmer. Though Penderecki would be a dream come true.
It would, but I think the nearest we could get to that would be some of his pieces being used.
His music is usually really bland (IMO) and I suspect it wasn't fitting tonally. I feel bad for the guy but I think it's better for the film to get someone else.
Shame that, hoping they maintain the epicness as well as the creepier eerie music cues of Prometheus. Curious to hear other composers take on an Alien score while applying their own artistic twist to it, composers such as Marco Beltrami, Danny Elfman, Christopher Young, Alexandre Desplat, Joseph Bishara, Howard Shore, James Newton Howard. Here's hoping whoever they chose does a great job.
Well this is interesting news to say the least. I really do wonder since he's off the project if they had something else in mind for the music style of this film. IMO Prometheus OST was pretty bland and I got it for completionist sake but I only ever liked a couple tracks from it, which apparently were Williams'.
If this score is supposed to be a scary jump out of your pants thing, a Prometheus like score would not cut it. ALIEN had some very unsettling music which helped push the idea of clausterphobic conditions, a doomed ship, a creature stalking you from areas unknown out to kill you. One of the best tracks on the OST for ALIEN was Sleepy Alien, where Ripley encounters the creature on the way to the Narcissus. They reused it in ALIENS with the scene of the Queen coming straight at Ripley & Newt b4 Bishop arrives.
I wonder WTF is going on? ???
Were Fox unhappy with the "psychodelic" tone? And decided to scrap the entire soundtrack?
(https://i.imgur.com/ELeK0MZ.png)
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Quote from: Ephemer Nine on Nov 01, 2016, 08:24:10 PM
Where did this theory of the son leaking the pictures come from? I probably missed it in the midst of this news bombardment.
From your squad leader.
MGS series were the best. undoubtly will stay with me forever. Prometheus had some good stuff,it was a more extreme Alien type of concept much like the movie itself. Sorry Harry Gregory Williams! Good journey.
'Where did this theory of the son leaking the pictures come from?' - I'm not sure about claims that the pictures came from him, but the 'backburster' spoiler rumours came from some (now deleted) IMDb posts from someone who at the time claimed to be the composer's son. I was on the IMDb board the day they went up. Following a few questions, the user said that he probably shouldn't have said anything, and deleted his posts. At this point that still could have been anyone making things up to entertain themselves, but this is an interesting development.
Its a little too quiet. I mean why the secrecy??? Unless the rumor is true.
Quote from: Darkoo on Nov 01, 2016, 06:20:42 PM
Michael Giacchino will save the day.
Would love Giacchino.
Wouldn't mind Tyler Bates either.
John Carpenter, please :)
This is like Legend all over again. Just for the record, I prefer the Tangerine Dream score.
I'm totally gutted. Was so looking forward to his return for Covenant - I think this will hurt the film, but then again, we don't know the full facts.
Elliot Goldenthal would be top of my list for a replacement, not really that plausible... Sad times.
Someone see if Elliot Goldenthal is available.
HGW didn't compose the Space Jockey theme, did he? I loved that theme. More of that grand, evil shit, this time around, please.
I would rather prefer Goldsmith or Horner any day, but sadly... they got themselves perished... :'(
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 01, 2016, 09:45:47 PM
I wonder WTF is going on? ???
Were Fox unhappy with the "psychodelic" tone? And decided to scrap the entire soundtrack?
https://i.imgur.com/ELeK0MZ.png
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Quote from: Ephemer Nine on Nov 01, 2016, 08:24:10 PM
Where did this theory of the son leaking the pictures come from? I probably missed it in the midst of this news bombardment.
From your squad leader.
Those psychedelic "soundscape" recordings were composed by Stefan Behrisch, so I doubt an entire finished score was done yet, Rogue One had a switch in composers as well due to scheduling conflicts caused by re-shoots.
I wonder if this means that reshoots are going to happen. Prometheus changed a lot in post. I really wish I could see the first cut of the movie, before the reshoots.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 01, 2016, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: Ephemer Nine on Nov 01, 2016, 08:24:10 PM
Where did this theory of the son leaking the pictures come from? I probably missed it in the midst of this news bombardment.
From your squad leader.
I was just talking out loud/joking about that. Not to be taken seriously. I'm as curious about the actual story as you guys are.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Nov 02, 2016, 05:11:06 AM
Those psychedelic "soundscape" recordings were composed by Stefan Behrisch, so I doubt an entire finished score was done yet, Rogue One had a switch in composers as well due to scheduling conflicts caused by re-shoots.
That's interesting, I was under the impression that it was Gregson-Williams' composition they were recording. Do you think Gregson-Williams may have pulled-out/been fired (for whatever reason) before he did anything?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 02, 2016, 08:19:11 AM
I was just talking out loud/joking about that. Not to be taken seriously. I'm as curious about the actual story as you guys are.
Just be careful about starting such rumours though. Most of us here know you weren't really serious but you know how the internet can sometimes take something like that and turn it into "fact" overnight. :)
'Just be careful about starting such rumours though. Most of us here know you weren't really serious but you know how the internet can sometimes take something like that and turn it into "fact" overnight.' - Like when the IMDb gossip from HGW's alleged son was reported on here.
I'm assuming you're having a dig for reporting the Neomorph news with that comment? We didn't report that "gossip" - we learnt further details independently, some of which matched up with the gossip.
Given Gregson-Williams' comment - "...after all! - it sounds like he was let go before he even did anything, maybe Ridley now has someone else in mind after watching the first cut? Maybe it's all at the behest of the studio, personally an extension of Goldsmith's work would be great but with some apocalyptic/macabre elements as well.
Yeah, that's also the feeling I got from that comment. Anyway, a few other movie news sites have picked-up on this story as well so we'll see if anything else drops out in the coming days.
That wasn't intended as a dig at all.
Heyuguys.com says that there are rumors that reshoots are needed and that is a possibility that his schedule may not have allowed.
http://www.heyuguys.com/harry-gregson-williams-alien-covenant/ (http://www.heyuguys.com/harry-gregson-williams-alien-covenant/)
Oh so simply put, he's out because of scheduling conflicts concerning the reshoots? I actually thought the rumors were fact, which made it hard to believe someone's grown kid would do something so stupid. Of course it could be a conspiracy to frame the guy by the person who leaked the set pics.
Wonder where they got the information that covenant was going to need 'rumoured reshoots'?
Reshoots happen. It's practically assumed.
Yea though I'm just curious where and when they heard the movie was going through 'rumoured' reshoots? The way they mention it is as if the Internet is abound with rumours that the movie is undergoing reshoots but that is simply not the case, this is the first time this has ever been mentioned.
What's strange is there is no announcement I know Fox knows the news got out and yet no info from anyone regarding this... Just so odd!!
Maybe our squad leader found something out. 8)
The more I think about it, this isn't good. When a test screening doesn't go well, the score if often the first thing to be scrapped, especially if the audience commented on it being weird. If the score was psychedelic, I can imagine it taking some blame if the screening didn't work out. In other words, I'm worried that Fox doesn't like Covenant in its current form.
That was a...mammoth assumption.
Yeah try not to speculate too much, this is all pretty standard practise.
Reaction to the early screening was positive.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 03, 2016, 06:28:46 AM
Reaction to the early screening was positive.
Exactly, plus there is ten months until the film is released. Often composers don't sign on until maybe three, four months before release date. The news that HGW is not scoring the movie any more is not in any way indicative that there are production problems. I think a lot of people jumping to assumptions and wild speculation at the minute.
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 03, 2016, 07:02:50 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 03, 2016, 06:28:46 AM
Reaction to the early screening was positive.
Exactly, plus there is ten months until the film is released. Often composers don't sign on until maybe three, four months before release date. The news that HGW is not scoring the movie any more is not in any way indicative that there are production problems. I think a lot of people jumping to assumptions and wild speculation at the minute.
They'll be using a temp score at the minute too so it's unlikely to be a reaction to any score in the screening.
Quote from: Abed on Nov 02, 2016, 04:49:27 PM
That wasn't intended as a dig at all.
Fair enough mate, sorry, it read like you were. We don't generally report on rumours like that unless we're confident in them or their source.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 03, 2016, 06:28:46 AM
Reaction to the early screening was positive.
Fingers crossed. Have you seen early screenings?
Unless he's been holding out on us, no. I did nearly get him onto the set but that fell through. :'(
I learnt a while back that they'd shown an early cut of the film to some of the shakers and movers at Fox and the reception had been good.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 01:39:18 PM
I learnt a while back that they'd shown any early cut of the film to some of the shakers and movers at Fox and the reception had been good.
Does "good" mean better than Prometheus? :)
I can't really comment as to that, I'm afraid. I don't know what they were like with Prometheus.
HGW provided an update:
QuoteSchedules and one's expectations of scoring a film don't always fit and this one wasn't going to work out. I move on to another project with gratitude to have worked on many movies with Ridley Scott where the moons did indeed align and I had the chance to burrow in to the core of the project.
Scheduling conflicts then. Which is what I thought. Thanks again for the update Hicks.
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 03, 2016, 03:25:12 PM
Scheduling conflicts then.
Certainly seems like! Now...
I await the news of who is taking over the reins!
Which is hilarious. What have you got going on Harry that is better than a Ridley Alien?
I can't see that the moons will ever allign in this fashion, but I'd love to hear John Williams compose an Alien movie score.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 03, 2016, 03:25:12 PM
Scheduling conflicts then.
Certainly seems like! Now...
I await the news of who is taking over the reins!
Thanks Corp. 8)
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Nov 03, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
Which is hilarious. What have you got going on Harry that is better than a Ridley Alien?
Exactly. New Blade Runner, Star Wars and Alien:Covenant are the most anticipated Sci-Fi movies of 2017. I don't buy this schedule thing. Smells fishy to me. Especially when HGW says: "(...) one's expectations of scoring a film don't always fit". Whose expectations? His? Ridley's? Fox's? Strange.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 01:39:18 PM
Unless he's been holding out on us, no. I did nearly get him onto the set but that fell through. :'(
I'm curious on how you were going to contrive that.
Quote from: Ingwar on Nov 03, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Nov 03, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
Which is hilarious. What have you got going on Harry that is better than a Ridley Alien?
Exactly. New Blade Runner, Star Wars and Alien:Covenant are the most anticipated Sci-Fi movies of 2017. I don't buy this schedule thing. Smells fishy to me. Especially when HGW says: "(...) one's expectations of scoring a film don't always fit". Whose expectations? His? Ridley's? Fox's? Strange.
I'm pretty sure that if it involved creative differences then he'd just come out and say it, it's fairly common practice these days. Scheduling issues could also mean personal life events, not just work. He may have had projects he was supposed to have finished that ended up boiling over into the time he'd need to set aside for Covenant, or commitments which he didn't think would impact his work that ended up doing so.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 03, 2016, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 01:39:18 PM
Unless he's been holding out on us, no. I did nearly get him onto the set but that fell through. :'(
I'm curious on how you were going to contrive that.
Through PR.
I blame Bishop for this.
An obscure example but the composer of the Amazing Spider-Man James Horner had confessed "Before his unfortunate passing" that he refused to do the music for the sequel Amazing Spider-Man 2 because in his words "the film was all action and just awful" Hope that's not the case with this film, showing signs that its less than stella and unhappy to be involved. Hope that's not the case with this film.
It used to be more common, perhaps, for a tentpole to have its score replaced. I read somewhere that this was commonly the first step in major post-production revisions. See also: The 13th Warrior, Troy, Timeline, and even 2001: A Space Odyssey. There is also Ridley's own Legend and, to a lesser extent, Alien and Prometheus, to consider. All of these were re-jiggered not because of the schedule, but because either the studio or Ridley didn't like the score.
Figures, ah well hopefully Ridley will find someone awesome.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 01:39:18 PM
Unless he's been holding out on us, no. I did nearly get him onto the set but that fell through. :'(
Why did you remind me :'(
There's always the next Alien.
Who wrote this on Wiki? It's bullshit speculation (underlined) -
"Harry Gregson-Williams has been selected as the film's composer,[46] but confirmed he's no longer involved in scoring the movie. Inside chatter suggests he was unhappy with the film as a whole and wanted out.[47]"
The source they cite [47] links back to AVP Galaxy! :laugh:
And some more lulz:
QuoteCast[edit]
For more details on individual characters, see List of Alien characters.
Michael Fassbender as David and Walter. David is a synthetic android created by the Weyland Corporation, formerly a crew member of the destroyed Prometheus.[2] Walter is a more advanced android who assists the crew aboard the Covenant.[3]
Katherine Waterston as Daniels, a crew member of the Covenant.[4]
Danny McBride as the pilot of the Covenant.[5]
Noomi Rapace as Dr. Elizabeth Shaw, an archaeologist, formerly a crew member of the destroyed Prometheus.[4]
Demián Bichir
Billy Crudup
Amy Seimetz
Jussie Smollett
Carmen Ejogo
Callie Hernandez
Alexander England
Benjamin Rigby
Uli Latukefu
Nathaniel Dean
Tess Haubrich
Goran D. Kleut
Aaron Percival- Corporal Hicks
Wasn't me, honest Corporal!
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Nov 04, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
Who wrote this on Wiki? It's bullshit speculation (underlined) -
"Harry Gregson-Williams has been selected as the film's composer,[46] but confirmed he's no longer involved in scoring the movie. Inside chatter suggests he was unhappy with the film as a whole and wanted out.[47]"
I assume someone took this quote way out of context:
"one's expectations of scoring a film don't always fit"
And looking at some of the absolute shit he has scored ("Total Recall 2012, Cowboy's and Aliens), that movie would have to be the absolute shits for him to turn it down. Of note though, The only movie on his entire resume that even eludes to horror is Prometheus. THIS IS WILD SPECULATION: Maybe he doesn't want to be associated with something as gory as this film is looking to be? The Backbuster scene isn't going to be pretty. Depending on how he works, he might not want to be subject to that amount of gore repeatedly. WILD SPECULATION ENDS.
Lol. Inside chatter. Stop entertaining such balderdash.
Scoring the movie is business for gods sake... Maybe Ridley wasnt
pleased with Harry's score and fired him... easy as that. Maybe Ridley
found another composer willing to score Covenant... maybe its just
schedule issue... there are tons of reasons.
Here is my thought....
Fassie said Scott already has a cut of the film, right. So maybe this cut is his (hard R-rated version), and the studio is making him reshoot so its not so violent hence why Williams can't score the movie. ( if reshoot rumors are true) Now does that mean that there will be two cuts of the film??
https://www.facebook.com/arabella.winter.1/about
This girl is Assistant Music Editor for Covenant
she is working from September, perhaps someone
could ask her about current situation. Dont know
if her NDA forbids her to speak about that.
Lol. No one involved can say anything remotely interesting. Not Wayne, not the assistant music editor, no one.
Are you sure, Harry's son revealed first three scenes of the movie :laugh: :laugh:
Another comment from HGW:
QuoteSchedules and one's expectations of scoring a film don't always fit and this one wasn't going to work out. I move on to another project with gratitude to have worked on many movies with Ridley Scott where the moons did indeed align and I had the chance to burrow in to the core of the project and do the job!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 07, 2016, 08:37:39 AM
Another comment from HGW:
QuoteSchedules and one's expectations of scoring a film don't always fit and this one wasn't going to work out. I move on to another project with gratitude to have worked on many movies with Ridley Scott where the moons did indeed align and I had the chance to burrow in to the core of the project and do the job!
Does it mean he scored something? Looks like.
I don't think so. When you read the whole sentence, it reads more like he's just referring to other projects.
Maybe you are right. Who knows. We'll find out one day.
HGW says project not projects. He also adds that he had a chance to burrow in to the core of it. Sounds enigmatic for me :)
He's referring to past projects. The use of singular is correct in that sentence.
Wonder if the change in release date is the reason HGW had to leave.
Very possible...
Considering recent date change and his comments, I think its very likely the cause of his departure.
Still on news on why he left the project?? Hopefully he will come back for the last two films.
Would make more sense for Jed Kurzel to just do all the films now. I hope he's good enough.
Jed Kurzel composed some parts for the oboe..
I think his score for the Covenant will be more like that of late Jerry Goldsmith...
I really hope he finally utilized the great capacity of brass section... It seems he
avoided the brass in many of his scores.
I was wondering the same thing just yesterday—wonder what happened? I like what I hear from Kurzel, although I am not sure what kind of direction this is going to take soundtrack-wise. Prometheus' score was a little... odd at parts. I want to hear Adam Wingard's re-worked Prometheus score.
Cliff Martinez needs to score an Alien film IMO.