Xenomorph hive

Started by (Bad Blood), Apr 05, 2021, 01:17:04 AM

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Voodoo Magic

Voodoo Magic

#15
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 06, 2021, 12:27:47 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 05, 2021, 04:00:30 AM

Cameron took his lead from the insect kingdom - but Aliens don't follow it slavishly.
This.

The Queen primarily exists for two reasons:

To thematically be a counter to Ripley's themes of motherhood.

To be a badass "final boss" for Ripley to fight at the end of the movie.

Without stretching for subtext, we can also say in "Alien" the Xenomorph primarily exists for one reason, to terrorize and kill the human protagonists one by one B-movie style. So I never understood reducing it this way as a way to dismiss it.

And from Giger to Ridley, the insect connection and inspiration was baked into Alien long before Aliens. And it was great to see where those eggs were coming from finally :o (before another option was widely revealed 17 or so years later).

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#16
Well I mean, I wasn't dismissing the Queen - my point was that she was included for more important reasons than to make the Aliens more ant-like.

Voodoo Magic

Voodoo Magic

#17
Oh, my bad! I heard the "final boss" used as a criticism against the Queen before, so I just assumed it was a knock against it!

Samhain13

Samhain13

#18
Praetorians can make great final bosses too.

Kradan

Kradan

#19
Queen is definetly among greatest (if not The Greatest) movie final bosses

Voodoo Magic

Voodoo Magic

#20
So good....


[cancerblack]

[cancerblack]

#21
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 06, 2021, 04:05:25 PM
Praetorians can make great final bosses too.

One day.

BigDaddyJohn

BigDaddyJohn

#22
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 06, 2021, 04:26:03 PM
Queen is definetly among greatest (if not The Greatest) movie final bosses

Yeah I always thought they were too easy to beat in AVP2 in comparison.

[cancerblack]

[cancerblack]

#23
That's why you fight her with just the combat knife.

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#24
Or play Projam lol

SpaceKase

SpaceKase

#25
Arguably, human beings, or really any host organism, are the eggs that the hive and all its constituent elements are the elaborate fertilization delivery system for. The Queen, the ovomorph, and the facehugger are all just nested layers for their central packet of genetic material. Once that material enters the host organism, our bodies provide it with additional genetic material and food to nurture the new resultant organism and next generation in the line is born.




Conversely, you could just say that the Hive reproduces "in the normal way".


BigDaddyJohn

BigDaddyJohn

#26
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 07, 2021, 12:05:17 AM
That's why you fight her with just the combat knife.

True, but you regain better equipment quickly though. And you are in the hive obviously, surely the fight could've been more harsh.

Prince's fight was even easier with his equipment.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#27
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 06, 2021, 10:27:02 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 06, 2021, 04:26:03 PM
Queen is definetly among greatest (if not The Greatest) movie final bosses

Yeah I always thought they were too easy to beat in AVP2 in comparison.

Honestly, that's why I liked AvP Classic's boss fight with her. Sure, it was just Aliens' climax, to be do it in the game was fun. I appreciated it being something that was less pew-pew. It's why I at least respect ACM for trying something different on that front.

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#28
ACM basically parroted every boss fight of that era though.

BigDaddyJohn

BigDaddyJohn

#29
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2021, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 06, 2021, 10:27:02 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 06, 2021, 04:26:03 PM
Queen is definetly among greatest (if not The Greatest) movie final bosses

Yeah I always thought they were too easy to beat in AVP2 in comparison.

Honestly, that's why I liked AvP Classic's boss fight with her. Sure, it was just Aliens' climax, to be do it in the game was fun. I appreciated it being something that was less pew-pew. It's why I at least respect ACM for trying something different on that front.

Actually I never finished the first AVP... I know it's a shame...

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