Gladiator II

Started by Ingwar, Nov 01, 2018, 07:58:58 PM

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Ingwar

Ingwar

If this is true (it cannot be) then I'm not gonna watch any Scott movie till end of my life. Jesus! I truly hope this is some kind of bad jest.

QuoteWhile he has been eyeing other projects that include a coming of age Merlin movie at Disney, Ridley Scott has begun forward progress on a sequel to Gladiator, the 2000 film which garnered 11 Oscar nominations and five wins including Best Picture and Best Actor for Russell Crowe. While Crowe's Maximus character met his end in the classic original film, Gladiator 2 will follow the continuing story of Lucius, the son of Lucilla (Connie Nielsen), The youth was the nephew of Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix), the weaselly son of Roman leader Marcus Aurelius who murdered his father seized the throne and wound up in the gladiator ring with Maximus, who though mortally wounded, skewered the emperor before fading into the great beyond to reunite with his slain wife and son. Maximus saved the boy and his mother while avenging his own family, and left a strong impression on the young Lucius.

The original was made by DreamWorks and distributed by Universal. Sources said the charge here is being led by Scott and his Scott Free banner. Oscar nominated for the first film, Scott wants to direct the film, and they are setting Peter Craig, whose credits include The Town and two Hunger Games films, as well as 12 Strong and the upcoming Top Gun: Maverick.

Sources said Paramount will be the studio developing the project, and Universal has the option to co-finance. DreamWorks is out of it. Crowe's Maximus is a tough act to follow, but the brutal world of Roman gladiators is so compelling, who wouldn't be entertained by another plunge into that world?

Scott right now is directing his first ever TV series, Raised By Wolves, for TNT. He'll shoot in South Africa. He has several feature projects percolating, including the Scarlett Johansson-starrer drama about photojournalist Lyndsey Addario, and a potential film about the formative years of the wizard Merlin. Gladiator 2 could happen very quickly, but it will take time to come together. If I were betting, I'd lay it on the Merlin film, which is at Disney.

https://deadline.com/2018/11/gladiator-sequel-ridley-scott-maximus-peter-craig-writing-paramount-universal-1202494152/

SM

SM

#1
Don't see an issue.

Ingwar

Ingwar

#2
I know SM. You don't have issues with crazy ideas like that. Imagine sequel to Braveheart, Casablanca, Lawrance of Arabia, 12 Angry Men, Taxi Driver, Schindler's List , The Shawshank Redemption, Titanic and so on. Nothing wrong about that (sigh).

SM

SM

#3
What's the problem with a film based on Lucius?

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯

The original sequel idea involving Lucius dates back to 2002. After that there were other variations including crazy shit like a reincarnated, time-traveling Maximus that would take place in WWII as well as the modern age.

Quote from: WikipediaIn June 2001, Douglas Wick said a Gladiator prequel was in development.[101] The following year, Wick, Walter Parkes, David Franzoni, and John Logan switched direction to a sequel set fifteen years later;[102] the Praetorian Guards rule Rome and an older Lucius is trying to learn who his real father was. However, Russell Crowe was interested in resurrecting Maximus, and further researched Roman beliefs about the afterlife to accomplish this.[103] Ridley Scott expressed interest, although he admitted the project would have to be retitled as it had little to do with gladiators.[104] An easter egg contained on disc 2 of the extended edition / special edition DVD releases includes a discussion of possible scenarios for a follow-up. This includes a suggestion by Parkes that, in order to enable Russell Crowe to return to play Maximus, who dies at the end of the original movie, a sequel could involve a "multi-generational drama about Maximus and the Aureleans and this chapter of Rome", similar in concept to The Godfather Part II.

In 2006, Scott stated he and Crowe approached Nick Cave to rewrite the film, but their ideas conflicted with DreamWorks's idea of a spin-off involving Lucius, whom Scott revealed would turn out to be Maximus's son with Lucilla. Scott noted that a tale of corruption in Rome was too complex, whereas Gladiator worked due to its simple drive.[105] In 2009, details of Cave's ultimately-rejected script surfaced on the internet: the script having Maximus being reincarnated by the Roman gods and returned to Rome to defend Christians against persecution; then transported to other important periods in history, including World War II, the Vietnam War, and finally being a general in the modern-day Pentagon. This script for a sequel, however, was rejected as being too far-fetched, and not in keeping with the spirit and theme of the original film.[106][107]

In March 2017, Scott again stated that he has an idea of how a sequel could be done, and that he is currently trying to convince Russell Crowe to reprise his role as Maximus.[108]

Anyway, they make it sound like Scott is currently busy directing Covenant II Raised by Wolves?

Ingwar

Ingwar

#5
Quote from: SM on Nov 01, 2018, 08:54:23 PM
What's the problem with a film based on Lucius?

As a standalone movie that has nothing to do with Gladiator, nothing.
As a sequel to Gladiator, everything.

Just leave this classic alone.

Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

#6
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 01, 2018, 09:00:24 PM
The original sequel idea involving Lucius dates back to 2002. After that there were other variations including crazy shit like a reincarnated, time-traveling Maximus that would take place in WWII as well as the modern age.

Quote from: WikipediaIn June 2001, Douglas Wick said a Gladiator prequel was in development.[101] The following year, Wick, Walter Parkes, David Franzoni, and John Logan switched direction to a sequel set fifteen years later;[102] the Praetorian Guards rule Rome and an older Lucius is trying to learn who his real father was. However, Russell Crowe was interested in resurrecting Maximus, and further researched Roman beliefs about the afterlife to accomplish this.[103] Ridley Scott expressed interest, although he admitted the project would have to be retitled as it had little to do with gladiators.[104] An easter egg contained on disc 2 of the extended edition / special edition DVD releases includes a discussion of possible scenarios for a follow-up. This includes a suggestion by Parkes that, in order to enable Russell Crowe to return to play Maximus, who dies at the end of the original movie, a sequel could involve a "multi-generational drama about Maximus and the Aureleans and this chapter of Rome", similar in concept to The Godfather Part II.

In 2006, Scott stated he and Crowe approached Nick Cave to rewrite the film, but their ideas conflicted with DreamWorks's idea of a spin-off involving Lucius, whom Scott revealed would turn out to be Maximus's son with Lucilla. Scott noted that a tale of corruption in Rome was too complex, whereas Gladiator worked due to its simple drive.[105] In 2009, details of Cave's ultimately-rejected script surfaced on the internet: the script having Maximus being reincarnated by the Roman gods and returned to Rome to defend Christians against persecution; then transported to other important periods in history, including World War II, the Vietnam War, and finally being a general in the modern-day Pentagon. This script for a sequel, however, was rejected as being too far-fetched, and not in keeping with the spirit and theme of the original film.[106][107]

In March 2017, Scott again stated that he has an idea of how a sequel could be done, and that he is currently trying to convince Russell Crowe to reprise his role as Maximus.[108]

Anyway, they make it sound like Scott is currently busy directing Covenant II Raised by Wolves?

What the huh? :laugh:

Ingwar

Ingwar

#7
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 01, 2018, 09:00:24 PM
Anyway, they make it sound like Scott is currently busy directing Covenant II Raised by Wolves?

I don't find this article legit so who know's what Scott is doing right now. According to other source Johansson declined taking part in biopic about photojournalist Lyndsey Addario.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/24/scarlett-johansson-saudi-arabia-mohammed-bin-salman-lynsey-addario-funding-turned-down


Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 01, 2018, 09:17:54 PM
What the huh? :laugh:

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20180810-gladiator-2-was-written-and-its-mad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx-gTGc9uog

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯

I don't think Scott even knows what he's doing next anymore. He's just juggling balls in the air.  :laugh:

And yeah, that Nick Cave script is what happens when there's no-one around to say NO to Riddles.

SM

SM

#9
Quote from: Ingwar on Nov 01, 2018, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 01, 2018, 08:54:23 PM
What's the problem with a film based on Lucius?

As a standalone movie that has nothing to do with Gladiator, nothing.
As a sequel to Gladiator, everything.

Just leave this classic alone.

What are they doing to the original film?

Ingwar

Ingwar

#10
Quote from: SM on Nov 01, 2018, 09:25:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Nov 01, 2018, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 01, 2018, 08:54:23 PM
What's the problem with a film based on Lucius?

As a standalone movie that has nothing to do with Gladiator, nothing.
As a sequel to Gladiator, everything.

Just leave this classic alone.

What are they doing to the original film?

Nothing, but it's completely tasteless and mental. It's like a sequel to, as I mentioned before, Braveheart, Casablanca, Lawrance of Arabia, 12 Angry Men, Taxi Driver, Schindler's List , The Shawshank Redemption, Titanic and so on. Why? What's the point?

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯

After Gladiator II, Scott needs to do a Thelma & Louise sequel.  :laugh:

Ingwar

Ingwar

#12
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 01, 2018, 09:41:02 PM
After Gladiator II, Scott needs to do a Thelma & Louise sequel.  :laugh:

With Harvey Keitel, Michael Madsen, Brat Pitt and Christopher McDonald? :)

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯

"Look, I found a piece of Thelma!" "Over here, found one of Louise's toes!"  :laugh:

Ingwar

Ingwar

#14
If you modified Nick Cave's script Maximus could meet Thelma and Louise before events of the original film. It could have been crossover of Gladiator sequel and Thelma & Louise prequel. OK, that's enough :)

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