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Title: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 13, 2015, 09:16:21 AM
https://twitter.com/PapaVinyard/status/664650039546028032

QuoteI don't know if he misspoke, but Ridley Scott referred to PROMETHEUS 2 as ALIEN: COVENANT. So much for PARADISE LOST.

https://twitter.com/mtgilchrist/status/664639089107308544

QuoteIs ALIEN COVENANT known as the title of the PROMETHEUS sequel? That's what Ridley Scott just called it.

I saw this on Twitter last night. I messaged both asking where they saw it and the first fella, PapaVinyard, replied:

Quote@_corporalhicks He did a live chat at AFI Fest last night.

Quote@_corporalhicks Hope they release video online at some point 'cause it was pretty great, but I don't think there's anything out right now.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 13, 2015, 11:54:30 AM
No joke but if that is the new name it sounds pretty damn interesting... then again this is Ridley. Actually it would be nuts if that was NB's title for his Alien 5 and Ridley just blurted it out by mistake.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 13, 2015, 12:18:11 PM
Perhaps some alliance between humanity and some other species against the Aliens or Engineers?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 13, 2015, 12:48:15 PM
I was thinking maybe there was a deal struck between man and engineers that somehow was lost in time. Like for instance we could live if we stay the f**k away from a certain group of stars.  ;)
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: oduodu on Nov 13, 2015, 01:18:18 PM
Does covenant imply God Man relationship ??

But who broke that covenant ?? The engineers or us ??
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Nov 13, 2015, 02:23:49 PM
Yeah... this is just typical Sir Riddles.

Prometheus started out as "Untitled Alien Prequel" then became "Alien: LV-426" then became "Alien: Paradise" then became "Alien: Engineers" then finally one day... bang... "Prometheus".

Blade Runner started out as "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" then became "Dangerous Days" then became "Blade Runner" then became "Gotham City" then became "Blade Runner" again after they couldn't get the naming rights from Bob Kane.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 13, 2015, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 13, 2015, 02:23:49 PM
Prometheus started out as "Untitled Alien Prequel" then became "Alien: LV-426" then became "Alien: Paradise" then became "Alien: Engineers" then finally one day... bang... "Prometheus".

Alien Zero as well, according to Lindelof. Before Prometheus.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 14, 2015, 08:21:20 AM
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/ridley-scott-says-alien-paradise-lost-will-be-now-called-alien-covenant-20151113

Quote"I was going to be doing what will be called 'Alien: Covenant,' which starts shooting next February, and we were struggling then with the screenplay there and then there was a phone call, somebody saying, 'Listen, we've got this thing which is completely written called 'Martian,' and I said, 'Huh.' And I sped read it in an hour and by mid-afternoon, I talked to Fox and said, 'I need to talk to 'Drew [Goddard]...'"
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 14, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
Are they actively trying to make this production seem like a complete clusterf*ck?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 14, 2015, 10:02:54 AM
I wouldn't be worried about title changes. Might be a result of Logan's revisions? Or just Ridley getting his tongue tied.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Keyes on Nov 14, 2015, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 14, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
Are they actively trying to make this production seem like a complete clusterf*ck?

Why is it a clusterf-ck if the title changes a few times? There's no harm. Besides, it's never been officially announced as anything yet.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 14, 2015, 10:13:48 AM
He sure did sound like he was talking past-tense. Although I think Alien: Covenant is a more interesting title than Alien: Paradise Lost.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 14, 2015, 10:18:25 AM
I think I prefer the Paradise Lost title. Sounds more poetic. Obviously.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: redalert51 on Nov 14, 2015, 10:31:03 AM
Alien: Paradise Lost is much more related to " Prometheus " , with incorporating Science versus myth.
I hope " Scott is just pulling our legs ..
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: T Dog on Nov 14, 2015, 12:37:32 PM
I thought that the title "Paradise" was intriguing by itself. Or Alien: Paradise.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 14, 2015, 01:01:02 PM
ugh the whole alien to prometheus back to alien thing is the bad part. :P

All the titles work. However the real one we are all waiting for is, Alien: Derelict.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 14, 2015, 01:05:06 PM
Aka Prometheus 4. :P

The whole switch over thing is as confusing as the initial Alien to Prometheus switch. I just want to know how much it connects.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: T Dog on Nov 14, 2015, 01:06:14 PM
Next up we'll have
"I'm making a new.......I'm going back to the start in......Alien......Communion......we're getting down on our knees with this one right cause I let the other ones slip right by into other peopthink they made 4 or was it 5......the beast is cooked......so im taking the beast out of the oven putting him in the freezer and thawing out the frozen beast then putting him in the microwave for my new movie......Alien.......Confession......
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Ultramorph on Nov 14, 2015, 03:10:17 PM
Covenant is a neat title, but who knows what's really going on with these projects. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors and crummy articles right now.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: T Dog on Nov 14, 2015, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Nov 14, 2015, 03:10:17 PM
Covenant is a neat title, but who knows what's really going on with these projects. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors and crummy articles right now.
Yeah it was especially ridiculous during the week when IGN reposted a month old quote and other publications ran with the story and associated it directly with Blomkamp's project falling apart despite the fact the timelines didn't quite add up.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 14, 2015, 03:30:46 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 14, 2015, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Nov 14, 2015, 03:10:17 PM
Covenant is a neat title, but who knows what's really going on with these projects. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors and crummy articles right now.
Yeah it was especially ridiculous during the week when IGN reposted a month old quote and other publications ran with the story and associated it directly with Blomkamp's project falling apart despite the fact the timelines didn't quite add up.

Tell me about it.  :-\
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 14, 2015, 03:39:30 PM
This is interesting as I saw a news article about an hour ago that still refered to it as Alien: Paradise Lost and said that Walter Hill and David Giler are on board as producers. Giler being on board fills me with dread but if anyone can keep him in line its Ridley.

I reckon that Covenant could be the poss title to Blomkamps Alien 5
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 14, 2015, 05:05:04 PM
I believe Giler and Hill get producer credit on anything that says 'Alien' on it, whether they're involved or not. Could be wrong though.

Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 14, 2015, 01:01:02 PMAll the titles work. However the real one we are all waiting for is, Alien: Derelict.

The critics would have a field day with that title... and not in a good way.  :P
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 14, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 14, 2015, 05:05:04 PM
I believe Giler and Hill get producer credit on anything that says 'Alien' on it, whether they're involved or not. Could be wrong though.


Ah right. If that's the case then I don't mind as much lol
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Nov 14, 2015, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 14, 2015, 05:05:04 PM
I believe Giler and Hill get producer credit on anything that says 'Alien' on it, whether they're involved or not. Could be wrong though.

You're quite right doctor. Their original contract on Alien stated that they will get credited for any sequels or spin-offs based on the first film. It backfired a bit since they were credited on Resurrection, AvP, AvP:R and Prometheus even though they had nothing to do with it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 14, 2015, 05:36:32 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 14, 2015, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 14, 2015, 05:05:04 PM
I believe Giler and Hill get producer credit on anything that says 'Alien' on it, whether they're involved or not. Could be wrong though.

You're quite right doctor. Their original contract on Alien stated that they will get credited for any sequels or spin-offs based on the first film. It backfired a bit since they were credited on Resurrection, AvP, AvP:R and Prometheus even though they had nothing to do with it.  :laugh:

Heh heh! They should keep crediting Gordon Carroll, too. oooOOOooo!!!  :o
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Randomizer on Nov 14, 2015, 05:45:43 PM
Alien: Covenant doesn't seem fitting for the Alien universe. Plus, I'm just starting to get used with Paradise Lost.

Or just leave it at Prometheus 2, for God's sake.  ::)
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: The Alien Predator on Nov 14, 2015, 06:03:28 PM
When I first heard the title, I was reminded of Halo's Covenant. XD
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: The First Child on Nov 15, 2015, 01:59:48 AM
Alien: Covenant is okay. Unfortunately many people think of the alien collective from the Halo franchise when the word covenant pops up. You would not think it, but even people who have never played halo know what the covenant is. Alien: Paradise Lost is better, but personally a movie title like "Paradise Lost" or "Paradise" is the best. It's simple yet exciting, easy to remember. Like the Martian, Alien, Gladiator. It rolls off ones tongue with ease. 
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D

We need someone to draw that picture lol
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Randomizer on Nov 15, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: The First Child on Nov 15, 2015, 01:59:48 AM
Alien: Covenant is okay. Unfortunately many people think of the alien collective from the Halo franchise when the word covenant pops up. You would not think it, but even people who have never played halo know what the covenant is. Alien: Paradise Lost is better, but personally a movie title like "Paradise Lost" or "Paradise" is the best. It's simple yet exciting, easy to remember. Like the Martian, Alien, Gladiator. It rolls off ones tongue with ease. 

Not being a native English speaker, and hearing it for the first time in Halo, can't help it anymore. It's like a reflex now.

QuoteCovenant = an agreement, usually formal, between two or more persons to do or not do something specified

Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D

We need someone to draw that picture lol

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Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: oduodu on Nov 15, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
"Those pesky engineers are finally gone. Peace and quiet at last. "

"Honey long range scanner indicates shaw and david are almost here"

"Ah shit ......"
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 16, 2015, 01:30:49 AM
So is Alien: Covenant an official thing now?  Is Alien: Paradise Lost officially, ehem, lost?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: david8 on Nov 16, 2015, 05:24:31 AM
I like the title, kind of ties nicely into the quasi-apocalyptic themes and religious undertones in Alien 3. Paradise Lost was a nice title but there's too many films with that title.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: CainsSon on Nov 16, 2015, 06:08:57 AM
Its a long shot, but based on this new title and Carrie Henn's recent tweet ( which would NOT be for a fan film, cease and desist letters or not ) and this new writer being brought in to polish things, I think that Ridley Scott is looking ahead and to map out how he will tie everything together. I think whatever this "COVENANT" refers to or is, will end up tie-ing into why the Company wants the Alien, and that's what Ripley will be discovering in Alien 5. I will also state again, I believe she will discover that the Company had good reason to make her crew 'expendable' despite the Co. being and remaining shady and still largely a shadow organization.
I think the theme behind all of this will be when is some secret big enough to justify taking lives, and when does that go too far?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 16, 2015, 06:19:53 AM
I must agree that making the corporations deeds honorable would be a neat avenue to pursue. However it would still be inline with the "it's just business" theme.

However on the naming convention, is it really Alien: Covenant? Cause to be honest Nothing official has been stated yet. I mean Ridley isn't the most reliable source. :P
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 08:36:51 AM
Quote from: Daz85 on Nov 14, 2015, 10:02:59 AMWhy is it a clusterf-ck if the title changes a few times? There's no harm.

I was referring to the endless script revisions, title changes, it's less to do with Alien, it's more to do with Alien... The whole scenario does not instil confidence.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 16, 2015, 01:30:49 AM
So is Alien: Covenant an official thing now?  Is Alien: Paradise Lost officially, ehem, lost?

Not official yet.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: david8 on Nov 16, 2015, 11:16:23 AM
"Its a long shot, but based on this new title and Carrie Henn's recent tweet ( which would NOT be for a fan film, cease and desist letters or not ) and this new writer being brought in to polish things, I think that Ridley Scott is looking ahead and to map out how he will tie everything together. I think whatever this "COVENANT" refers to or is, will end up tie-ing into why the Company wants the Alien, and that's what Ripley will be discovering in Alien 5. I will also state again, I believe she will discover that the Company had good reason to make her crew 'expendable' despite the Co. being and remaining shady and still largely a shadow organization.
I think the theme behind all of this will be when is some secret big enough to justify taking lives, and when does that go too far?"

This. I have to say that this sounds likely, remember Scott insinuated that the beast was created to protect the engineers from something ("...protect them from what?") whatever IT is, perhaps the company finds out too, and that's why they want the creature so much. 
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 16, 2015, 01:24:04 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Nov 15, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: The First Child on Nov 15, 2015, 01:59:48 AM
Alien: Covenant is okay. Unfortunately many people think of the alien collective from the Halo franchise when the word covenant pops up. You would not think it, but even people who have never played halo know what the covenant is. Alien: Paradise Lost is better, but personally a movie title like "Paradise Lost" or "Paradise" is the best. It's simple yet exciting, easy to remember. Like the Martian, Alien, Gladiator. It rolls off ones tongue with ease. 

Not being a native English speaker, and hearing it for the first time in Halo, can't help it anymore. It's like a reflex now.

QuoteCovenant = an agreement, usually formal, between two or more persons to do or not do something specified

Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D

We need someone to draw that picture lol

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Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: yoyomidn on Nov 16, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
IF you're going to make a sequel to prometheus and call it Alien : ****whatever*********  why the confusion? It was the same question when they started Prometheus. So in the end, undoubtedly it will should be Prometheus : with a title here because it is the a sequel being made less then 5 years after the first one. It wouldnt make any sense promotionally. Unless it's another mind screw.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 16, 2015, 03:58:26 PM
Covenant.  Paradis Lost.  Makes no difference whatsoever as long as we get a good movie.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: yoyomidn on Nov 16, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
IF you're going to make a sequel to prometheus and call it Alien : ****whatever*********  why the confusion? It was the same question when they started Prometheus. So in the end, undoubtedly it will should be Prometheus : with a title here because it is the a sequel being made less then 5 years after the first one. It wouldnt make any sense promotionally. Unless it's another mind screw.

I think it's likely they know the Prometheus brand isn't as viable as Alien.

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 16, 2015, 03:58:26 PM
Covenant.  Paradis Lost.  Makes no difference whatsoever as long as we get a good movie.

At the end of the day...this.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Nov 16, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 16, 2015, 01:30:49 AM
So is Alien: Covenant an official thing now?  Is Alien: Paradise Lost officially, ehem, lost?

Not official yet.

It is now...

https://twitter.com/20thcenturyfox/status/666299338813870084 (https://twitter.com/20thcenturyfox/status/666299338813870084)
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 16, 2015, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 16, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 16, 2015, 01:30:49 AM
So is Alien: Covenant an official thing now?  Is Alien: Paradise Lost officially, ehem, lost?

Not official yet.

It is now...

https://twitter.com/20thcenturyfox/status/666299338813870084 (https://twitter.com/20thcenturyfox/status/666299338813870084)

"The next installment in the Alien franchise"

Interesting choice of words...


nvm.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Naissus on Nov 16, 2015, 06:00:25 PM
Does this means Prometheus will be repackaged as Alien: Prometheus for continuity sakes
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=127040

New Synopsis

QuoteRidley Scott returns to the universe he created in ALIEN with ALIEN: COVENANT, the second chapter in a prequel trilogy that began with PROMETHEUS — and connects directly to Scott's 1979 seminal work of science fiction. Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world — whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.

It makes sense with a new crew coming in to not have a human around (initially) who has a whole movie worth of experience with alien DNA, rape worms, Space Jockeys, and black goo. Let these new guys experience some new dread with creepy David not letting on as to what is what.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: Naissus on Nov 16, 2015, 06:00:25 PM
Does this means Prometheus will be repackaged as Alien: Prometheus for continuity sakes

I expect so. But then I've thought that since the Paradise Lost title was announced.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: The First Child on Nov 16, 2015, 06:03:31 PM
Once again. I feel that If Ridley's team choose something like Covenant or Paradise it would be better. However they may be planning to use "Paradise" or Paradise Lost" as the title of the third film.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

I suspect it's going to be a plot point.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: CainsSon on Nov 16, 2015, 07:38:30 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

I suspect it's going to be a plot point.

I think so too. There will likely be some sort of reveal. It would be great if the movie opens with Rapace calling the human race to see this place or maybe David is experimenting on her and that will be the reveal. Or maybe he murders her,.. Lots of possibilities.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: TheBATMAN on Nov 16, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
I think the clue is the fact Covenant is a colony ship. I wonder if David somehow makes a deal with the Engineers to bring human hosts to paradise in order for them to realise a new biological weapon. Perhaps Shaw is the progenitor for these experiments?

The possibilities are endless really...
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: T Dog on Nov 16, 2015, 09:04:09 PM
Well maybe a long long time has passed since Prometheus. Shaw could be long dead!
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: sugarhigh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

I suspect it's going to be a plot point.

My bet is that Rapace ends up being the dead engineer in the derelict. David convinces her to attach his head to his body, overpowers her, experiments on her once they get to the engineers home planet.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: sugarhigh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

I suspect it's going to be a plot point.

My bet is that Rapace ends up being the dead engineer in the derelict. David convinces her to attach his head to his body, overpowers her, experiments on her once they get to the engineers home planet.

I really don't want that to be the case.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

If Noomi Rapace is getting Alien 3'd, then f**k this movie.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: T Dog on Nov 16, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
The idea of a colony ship is interesting to me! What does that mean? A bunch of people that live on a ship together or what?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

If Noomi Rapace is getting Alien 3'd, then f**k this movie.

I honestly expect her fate to be a plot point for the film.

Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 16, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
The idea of a colony ship is interesting to me! What does that mean? A bunch of people that live on a ship together or what?

In most sci-fi it's a ship sent off into space to find a planet and build a life there with the contents of the ship, usually using the ship itself to construct the buildings and etc.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 16, 2015, 09:21:28 PMThe idea of a colony ship is interesting to me! What does that mean?

I'd guess a ship full of people going to colonise another world. The first wave as it were.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

If Noomi Rapace is getting Alien 3'd, then f**k this movie.

I honestly expect her fate to be a plot point for the film.

The fact that shes not mentioned at all in the official synopsis is just weird and worrying to me.  She was the main character in Prometheus.  If she is just a plot point in this, that would be incredibly dumb.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: GQSioux on Nov 16, 2015, 09:35:48 PM
Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

If Noomi Rapace is getting Alien 3'd, then f**k this movie.

I honestly expect her fate to be a plot point for the film.

The fact that shes not mentioned at all in the official synopsis is just weird and worrying to me.  She was the main character in Prometheus.  If she is just a plot point in this, that would be incredibly dumb.

Remember, cryo exists. If this does indeed take place years later, Shaw could be alive and well in one of the Engineer cryotubes for all we know.  If she's not part of the movie, there could also be flashbacks or some type of prologue to explains things, or like someone said earlier, she could be saved as a protagonist for the third movie.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: T Dog on Nov 16, 2015, 09:47:02 PM
I just want a good movie. If Shaw isn't in it, it won't bother me if the movie is good. I do think Noomi Rapace deserves better than what she got in Prometheus so here's hoping they wrote her a good part if she shows up.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:48:14 PM
Yeah. At the end of the day, as long as it's a good film that'll make me more than happy. We're really due one.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 16, 2015, 09:52:16 PM
So, how is this film going to tie into Paradise Lost and Prometheus? I'm a little lost as to what's in the "Alienverse" and what isn't.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
This is Paradise Lost. Just a title change.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 16, 2015, 10:02:21 PM
Oh! Well, thank goodness. I wasn't big on the previous subtitle.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: T Dog on Nov 16, 2015, 10:37:13 PM
Just to say - the logo for the movie has got me excited!
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Nov 16, 2015, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 16, 2015, 10:37:13 PM
Just to say - the logo for the movie has got me excited!

I don't expect that's the actual logo... they just wanted to give us something (along with the synopsis) to stop our belly-achin'.  :P
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 16, 2015, 11:45:42 PM
Oh crap I was wondering what you guys were all writing about... they finally made it official. This news has got me very excited. Love the title and the mystery of only finding David on the planet.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: szkoki on Nov 17, 2015, 12:15:52 AM
ALIEN Covenant...so shouldnt been ALIEN Prometheus then?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 17, 2015, 12:33:21 AM
Surely that will be fixed in the near future. :P
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mustangjeff on Nov 17, 2015, 12:39:11 AM
Is it possible that this prequel actually happens in the far off future (wouldn't that be a kick in the head)?

I'm hoping the goon who wrote the synopsis was going for dramatic effect, but IMO this is cringe worthy

"Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy"

The Milky Way is about 120,000 LY in diameter.  The earth is about 75,000 LY from the far side of the galaxy.

To contrast :  Zeta Reticuli is approximately 39 LY from earth, and it took The Prometheus 2 years to get there. 

If you want to tell me that a Juggernaut can travel tens of thousands of light years in a short period of time, I will buy it.  But..  it would take the Prometheus 5000 years to travel that far.  I don't see a colony ship of the same era doing any better.  Keep in mind that there are only 28 years between the destruction off the Prometheus and the events in ALIEN.


disclaimer : tongue in cheek :)
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: The Alien Predator on Nov 17, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 17, 2015, 12:39:11 AM
Is it possible that this prequel actually happens in the far off future (wouldn't that be a kick in the head)?

I'm hoping the goon who wrote the synopsis was going for dramatic effect, but IMO this is cringe worthy

"Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy"

The Milky Way is about 120,000 LY in diameter.  The earth is about 75,000 LY from the far side of the galaxy.

To contrast :  Zeta Reticuli is approximately 39 LY from earth, and it took The Prometheus 2 years to get there. 

If you want to tell me that a Juggernaut can travel tens of thousands of light years in a short period of time, I will buy it.  But..  it would take the Prometheus 5000 years to travel that far.  I don't see a colony ship of the same era doing any better.  Keep in mind that there are only 28 years between the destruction off the Prometheus and the events in ALIEN.


disclaimer : tongue in cheek :)

A thought just occurred to me, what if "on the far side of the galaxy" they mean on our side? Seeing as Earth isn't exactly close to the centre of the Milky Way, they could be talking about the opposite end of the other side, on the far end of our end of the galaxy so to speak.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mustangjeff on Nov 17, 2015, 12:50:57 AM
Quote from: Guan Thwei 1992 on Nov 17, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 17, 2015, 12:39:11 AM
Is it possible that this prequel actually happens in the far off future (wouldn't that be a kick in the head)?

I'm hoping the goon who wrote the synopsis was going for dramatic effect, but IMO this is cringe worthy

"Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy"

The Milky Way is about 120,000 LY in diameter.  The earth is about 75,000 LY from the far side of the galaxy.

To contrast :  Zeta Reticuli is approximately 39 LY from earth, and it took The Prometheus 2 years to get there. 

If you want to tell me that a Juggernaut can travel tens of thousands of light years in a short period of time, I will buy it.  But..  it would take the Prometheus 5000 years to travel that far.  I don't see a colony ship of the same era doing any better.  Keep in mind that there are only 28 years between the destruction off the Prometheus and the events in ALIEN.


disclaimer : tongue in cheek :)

A thought just occurred to me, what if "on the far side of the galaxy" they mean on our side? Seeing as Earth isn't exactly close to the centre of the Milky Way, they could be talking about the opposite end of the other side, on the far end of our end of the galaxy so to speak.

Wouldn't that be, "Bound for a remote planet on the near side of the galaxy" ?

It just doesn't have that dramatic flavor


In all seriousness.  A very cool destination for paradise would be Tau Sagittarii.

This was a nearest star to a signal that Seti picked up in 1977 known as the WOW! signal.  I think it was even used in some half-arsed Weylund industries website pre-movie puzzle games.

Tau Sagittarii is 122 LY away, so about 4x further from earth than Zeta Reticuli.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 17, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 16, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
I think the clue is the fact Covenant is a colony ship. I wonder if David somehow makes a deal with the Engineers to bring human hosts to paradise in order for them to realise a new biological weapon. Perhaps Shaw is the progenitor for these experiments?

The possibilities are endless really...

Why bother when they can just make more of us?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 17, 2015, 05:58:06 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 17, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 16, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
I think the clue is the fact Covenant is a colony ship. I wonder if David somehow makes a deal with the Engineers to bring human hosts to paradise in order for them to realise a new biological weapon. Perhaps Shaw is the progenitor for these experiments?

The possibilities are endless really...

Why bother when they can just make more of us?
Cause all of us put together isn't worth the sacrifice of another engineer. Yep that's the only way it works in engineer land. Anything else would be beneath them.

Still if anyone remembers the space map thing from the engineer pilot chamber...what was that called again? Orrey or something. All the systems seemed to be self contained. Perhaps leaving that zone was to protect us form the horrors of space.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Randomizer on Nov 18, 2015, 05:23:51 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Nov 15, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D

We need someone to draw that picture lol

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My drawing is now irrelevant, damnit ! :P

Although I love the direction they're going on with, I'll have a hard time getting used to the new name.



It's not Halo, it's not Halo, it's not...... .
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 18, 2015, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Nov 18, 2015, 05:23:51 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Nov 15, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D

We need someone to draw that picture lol

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My drawing is now irrelevant, damnit ! :P

Although I love the direction they're going on with, I'll have a hard time getting used to the new name.



It's not Halo, it's not Halo, it's not...... .

You just need to have his feet up on the Ark of the Covenant now lol
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 18, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

It's totally ok if you use PFM.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 18, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

It's totally ok if you use PFM.

Is that like Petyr Baelish's teleporter/rocket pack?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 18, 2015, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 18, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

It's totally ok if you use PFM.

Is that like Petyr Baelish's teleporter/rocket pack?

PFM is "Pure f**king Magic".  I'm actually quoting Syd Mead here.  About a decade ago I was at a seminar of his in Detroit where he used that term over and over during his presentation.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 19, 2015, 08:49:07 AM
He used it on the nose art for Smart Ass, the second dropship Bishop flies in Aliens. "We aim by P.F.M."
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Nov 19, 2015, 03:13:09 PM
Nice catch!

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Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 19, 2015, 03:33:43 PM
I can see myself running around saying PFM quite a lot now.  :P
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 19, 2015, 03:53:25 PM
No way!  I never noticed that.  There I thought PFM was one of Syd Mead's passing ideas at the time but it looks like he's been doing PFM for decades now!  Who knew?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Nov 19, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
Someone needs to inform Blomkamp that he doesn't need all those aiming attachments for the pulse rifle anymore.

They come with built-in PFM aiming!
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: CainsSon on Nov 19, 2015, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 19, 2015, 03:33:43 PM
I can see myself running around saying PFM quite a lot now.  :P

Ditto.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Gresh on Nov 25, 2015, 07:02:49 AM
Shooting starts on April 4th?

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/michael-fassbender-and-noomi-rapace-heading-for-sydney-for-new-alien-movie-20151125-gl7gwc.html
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 25, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
Wasn't the Master Herald one of the places responsible for all that rubbish news about Hell on Earth?
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Gresh on Nov 25, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 25, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
Wasn't the Master Herald one of the places responsible for all that rubbish news about Hell on Earth?

Its Sydney Morning Herald.  But I just searched their site for all Prometheus related articles and didn't see anything about "Hell on Earth".  Tried Google as well.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 25, 2015, 09:14:07 AM
Quote from: Gresh on Nov 25, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
Its Sydney Morning Herald.

My mistake. Just done a quick Google search and can't see anyone else reporting April for shooting. Last we heard it would be Feb. Shame they don't quote a source.


So I've been speaking to the author - he says he heard the April shooting from some crew. There's apparently going to be an announcement tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2015, 09:21:18 AM
Next April? Damn.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 26, 2015, 09:25:03 AM
Sorry, April shooting.
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2015, 09:27:17 AM
That makes far more sense!
Title: Re: Alien Covenant?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 27, 2015, 07:06:41 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ridley-scott-alien-covenant-is-844051?utm_source=facebook

As promised. Front paging it now. Will probably generate a new thread.