Aliens: Fireteam Elite Gets New Title, Box Art and Release Date!

[molasar]

If they can't stay true to the source material then why call it an Aliens game? Money, that's why. A World war z clone. Yeah I'll skip it. I'm just so disappointed that we're getting another dud. It could've been a perfect mix between action and horror with lessons learned from Isolation and the movie from which it is stealing its title from.  It just sucks that you have to wait for the better part of a decade to find out if the next one is gonna do it right or not. The stigma of being an alien fan.

Another dud that seems to be the best Alien franchise video game shooter ever created. Video games should be about fun first and foremost. Otherwise why bother?

[Drukathi]

If they can't stay true to the source material then why call it an Aliens game? Money, that's why. A World war z clone. Yeah I'll skip it. I'm just so disappointed that we're getting another dud. It could've been a perfect mix between action and horror with lessons learned from Isolation and the movie from which it is stealing its title from.  It just sucks that you have to wait for the better part of a decade to find out if the next one is gonna do it right or not. The stigma of being an alien fan.

So, I have a few questions:
1) Do you played WWZ?
2) If so, then why you skip AFE?
3) Only gameplay is important for you, not setting?
4) Do you really prefer to play a generic zombie game over Alien? 
5) Why even do you marked a game with a similar mechanic as a clone?
6) Do you know how genres and subgenres works?
7) Tell me one reason to play another shooter instead of OG Doom, or another RTS instead of Dune, or another souls-like instead of DS, etc.

For your knowledge: a similar people called Alien: Isolation as a clone of Outlast and asked - why should I play the Outlast clone? And these were the (pseudo) Alien fans!

[Predatorium]

So, I have a few questions:
1) Do you played WWZ?
2) If so, then why you skip AFE?
3) Only gameplay is important for you, not setting?
4) Do you really prefer to play a generic zombie game over Alien? 
5) Why even do you marked a game with a similar mechanic as a clone?
6) Do you know how genres and subgenres works?
7) Tell me one reason to play another shooter instead of OG Doom, or another RTS instead of Dune, or another souls-like instead of DS, etc.

For your knowledge: a similar people called Alien: Isolation as a clone of Outlast and asked - why should I play the Outlast clone? And these were the (pseudo) Alien fans!

1. Yes, it was fun for a couple of hours.

2. Because xenomorphs shouldn't be compared to zombies. Zombies are braindead and the aliens seem to be aswell in AFE.

3. Of course, but if the title enemy which I grew up admiring is presented as a mindless and weak zombie then the background isn't going to help.

4. No but AFE will be a mindless generic zombie shooter with an aliens skin with a 5 hour campaign running from A to B holding down Mouse 1.

5. Because it's basically the same game with different skin.

6. Yes.

7. This question is so weird. There are a lot of Doom clones out there. But there's also amazing games that all originate from those originals, such as Half-Life. Wouldn't call that a Doom clone.

How can you not be disappointed that this is what we get after the most immersive, intense and impressive alien game ever made? To go from a highly intelligent xeno that stalks you to mindless drones just charging at you in wide open areas. This is going to be a very linear, mindless and short game with zero of the tension from the previous title.

[Hemi]

How can you not be disappointed that this is what we get after the most immersive, intense and impressive alien game ever made?

Because it works for an ALIENS game, it always has only no one dared to do it (besides some excellent mods for certain games  )
Just like it works for a Gears game or a Killing Floor game. People like shooting hordes of enemies.

Heres a picture from an Aliens horde taken in 1986:




It...WORKS.

You can still get fear just like in Aliens, just very panic orientated instead of dread. Comparring this to Isolation is silly, they are 2 different games just like Alien is a different movie comparred to Aliens. Haunted house vs war movie.

I think it will work tbh.

[Drukathi]

7. This question is so weird. There are a lot of Doom clones out there. But there's also amazing games that all originate from those originals, such as Half-Life. Wouldn't call that a Doom clone.

Half-Life is literally Doom clone, just with a smart plot.

How can you not be disappointed that this is what we get after the most immersive, intense and impressive alien game ever made? To go from a highly intelligent xeno that stalks you to mindless drones just charging at you in wide open areas. This is going to be a very linear, mindless and short game with zero of the tension from the previous title.

So, you don't like clones, but you hate AFE, because it's different from A:I? I hear you.

[hfeldhaus]

Half-Life is literally Doom clone, just with a smart plot.

That's the video game equivalent of saying all humans are apes.

[Predatorium]

7. This question is so weird. There are a lot of Doom clones out there. But there's also amazing games that all originate from those originals, such as Half-Life. Wouldn't call that a Doom clone.

Half-Life is literally Doom clone, just with a smart plot.

How can you not be disappointed that this is what we get after the most immersive, intense and impressive alien game ever made? To go from a highly intelligent xeno that stalks you to mindless drones just charging at you in wide open areas. This is going to be a very linear, mindless and short game with zero of the tension from the previous title.

So, you don't like clones, but you hate AFE, because it's different from A:I? I hear you.

I don't think you are hearing me at all tbh. As I said in my first post, it could've been the perfect blend of action and horror, just like the movies it's supposed to be based on. Don't get me wrong, I was hoping to kill some aliens witha pulse rifle aswell, but yes in more of a Alien Isolation type style, meaning you have clever enemies, confined spaces on spaceships, vents etc. A more slow paced, realistic take on it with a very limited HUD. Alien and Aliens was always about making it feel like a realistic situation in a realistic environment. Remember this https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1277125/mediaviewer/rm1708431873/ from the game informer article for A:CM? That picture alone conveys what I was hoping for. For a game developer, the natural step from Alien Isolation would've been Aliens, just like the movie it could've been about survival with limited resources. When you see the Aliens title logo, you think of the movie and as a consumer you'd want to have a similiar experience right?

[Drukathi]

Half-Life is literally Doom clone, just with a smart plot.

That's the video game equivalent of saying all humans are apes.

All humans are primates. Apes too.

It doesn't matter what was the first or what looks similar. Doom and HL are shooters with their own flaws and advantages. The same with WWZ and AFE: if someone like generic setting and zombies - good for them and only for them. This is not a flaw of AFE or something like.

For example: I'm really interested in WWZ gameplay mechanic, but I WILL NOT PLAY this game, because zombie and generic setting are boring things to me. But I like the gameplay and want to play a similar game, but in my favorite setting. What's how things works.

When you see the Aliens title logo, you think of the movie and as a consumer you'd want to have a similiar experience right?

No. You sounds like one of these marketers, who want a promotion, but will never get it. What I want? To see the quality and interesting game in alien setting with a similar things, not with an experience.

[SiL]

When you see the Aliens title logo, you think of the movie and as a consumer you'd want to have a similiar experience right?

Most consumers will see lots of Aliens, marines, and guns, and think that's pretty much the experience they were after having watched the film.

[Predatorium]

No. You sounds like one of these marketers, who want a promotion, but will never get it. What I want? To see the quality and interesting game in alien setting with a similar things, not with an experience.

Man it's crazy how you all keep twisting my words. Anyway, I think we are all alien fans for different reasons then. I'm always going to be about wanting a game that can give me a similiar experience as the movie Alien and Aliens. Alien Isolation came really close and is without a doubt the most faithful to the source material. It mostly understands it and respects it. AFE is just another misrepresentation of Scott's and Cameron's universe, like so many other failed titles in this franchise. You can't just put a game in the same universe and think it's going to be a hit. You have to understand the fundamentals of the Alien experience. The Alien have to be a threat, an intelligent menacing foe like no other. It has to be filled with tension, suspense, thrills and interesting environments that you can explore, a great atmospheric score, lighting and sound. The movies are slow moving, even Aliens, with quick bursts of action, with up and downs. Not just mowing down thousands of mindless bugs while running through a level for 5 hours and then calling it the day.

[SiL]

Some of the most popular titles in the series are exactly the kind of game you're complaining about. Clearly people like different things and have different expectations of games vs movies.

What does it even mean to have a similar experience to the movies? Everyone experiences it differently. Hell, the tension you feel watching the movie vs playing the game are completely different experiences to begin with -- it's watching something bad happen vs having it happen to you.

Not to mention I don't remember hiding under a table when I watched Alien; I also don't remember any of the characters spending 90% of their time holding their breath in a locker.

[Predatorium]

Some of the most popular titles in the series are exactly the kind of game you're complaining about. Clearly people like different things and have different expectations of games vs movies.

What does it even mean to have a similar experience to the movies? Everyone experiences it differently. Hell, the tension you feel watching the movie vs playing the game are completely different experiences to begin with -- it's watching something bad happen vs having it happen to you.

Not to mention I don't remember hiding under a table when I watched Alien; I also don't remember any of the characters spending 90% of their time holding their breath in a locker.

None of those titles comes close to Alien Isolation imo. I've played through Alien Isolation 6 times now I believe and still enjoy it. And no you don't need to stand in a locker, you can outmaneuver the alien if you are skillful. AVP 99 is the second best with great atmosphere and lethal aliens. I just thought that Alien Isolation would set the bar for future games, like how to make a successful Alien game that is praised by most people. Up the action a bit with Marines and killable aliens. Instead it has regressed. Didn't they learn anything? Apparently not.

[Drukathi]

I just thought that Alien Isolation would set the bar for future games, like how to make a successful Alien game that is praised by most people. Up the action a bit with Marines and killable aliens. Instead it has regressed. Didn't they learn anything? Apparently not.

Set the bar of what? And how is AFE regressed? HOW EVEN? What do you mean? Stop saying general phrases. Speak specifically.

I mean: there are survival horrors, but there also are grim and scary games, which not a horrors. There are such genres like tactical shooters with hyper-realism and just coop arcades with hordes.

Tactical games are not better than an arcades. They are two different genres. If A:I was serious and immersive - this doesn't mean that the following games should be like that. On the contrary, various genres and mechanics should be investigated. The only criterion is quality. And so far, in terms of quality, AFE doesn't look worse than A:I.

[SiL]

And no you don't need to stand in a locker, you can outmaneuver the alien if you are skillful

Also not my experience watching the movie, or the experience of the characters in the movie.

AVP 99 is the second best with great atmosphere and lethal aliens.

No mention of Alien Resurrection? It's basically exactly what you've described -- action, minimal Aliens that are all a nightmare to run into, desperation, etc.

I just thought that Alien Isolation would set the bar for future games, like how to make a successful Alien game that is praised by most people.

Isolation wasn't that successful, though. It underperformed like crazy.

[Crazy Rich]

Alien Isolation was great and all but it was a different vison developed by a different team. The idea that another team like CIS can't pursue their own vision and have to stay in a lane established by another team is highly unrealistic.