Well the community has been abuzz with speculation regarding a caption on one of the USA Today photos regarding the Predalien “The new creature can regurgitate in it’s victim’s mouth”. I recently dropped Colin a line to ask what’s what and he sent me this:
“This was suppose to be a secret, but oh well. I went on to your forums to set things straight. It really is one of the coolest scenes in the movie, and is like the rape scene in Alien. Very dark and evil.”
And as promised, Colin has been active in the thread regarding reproduction in AvPR. You can read Colin’s first post here. He reveals some information about it and reasoning.
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Cool!
Sounds really cool! ;D
CANT WAIT !!!!!!!!
I think the idea isn't that bad! okay its controversial but still, its about time we had something new with alien's. Lets just wait and see shall we.
There is going to be some pissed off fans. thats for sure
I think it is good because it's like, or is rape, which is a serious and scary thing, at least this movie isnt going to be a video game / comic book movie but a adult movie. Colin has said that contiunity hasn't been broken so there shouldn't be a problem plus there isn't no set way for the alien, i mean if the egg morphing was in the final cut of alien, we wouldn't of had the queen and hive in aliens, so some could say james cameron changed the alien. Lets just wait till the film come's out mite be good.
Mr. Teal There is going to be some pissed off fans. thats for sure -------------------- There are ALWAYS some guys, who are pissed off. People are not satisfied with anything. The Idea of the reproduction is very nice! Scary and some thing of rape! Thats cool ... greetz
I agree mr teal. the pred-alien is gunna kick sum ass. she's tuff, she's in charge, she's a breeder, she's gunna kill the wolf. Woohoo! AVP-R cant wait.
grosssssssss!!!!!! Regrgitating in the victem's mouth?! :-X I would hate, to be next to the Predalien in the movie :-* :-* :-X :D ;D :D ;D :-* :-X ???
Yeah that would be "dark" and "evil" except for the fact that the aliens are just doing what they do instinctively and you can't actually classify them as evil and secondly there is no actual rape scene in alien. We don't know how lambert is killed, but i assure you it is not actually rape.
yay, some new alien mysteries and weirdness, seeing the same life cycle and activities from the aliens was getting a little boring :P
i dont lik it now, but ill wait till december :-\
Sounds sweet. Can't wait to see that. 8)
This addition does make a lot of sense... on Alien Resurrection we only saw the Queen as a chestburster and then.. puff! Fully Grown Queen! Had to be some sort of intermediatte stage...... Predalien design i'm not really happy with... but it'll work... Alien Dog from Alien 3 had a brownish colour, right? Makes sense for different hosts to give different coulours then... Anybody remember Vincent wArds script for Alien 3? One caracter gets it's "devil" exorcised... via mouth... ahem! Knowwhatimean?
The concept is great. The fact that the new information contradicts either naturally-born Queens, egg transformation or both, is definitely not.
This is what killed the novel/comic line. Aliens are badass mofo's enough. You don't need to add shit to them constantly to make them superbadass. Soon we really WILL have flying facehuggers and alien warriors, and aliens that use weapons.
To quote Ian Malcolm - "Life finds a way." But if you think about it - there is only one predalien, it doesn't have time to do egg morphing, so it needs to create a hive quickly to lay eggs. Anyway, I think that is a pretty good justification for it.
Stupid. Simply Stupid.
I dont think its adding anything. We've only seen the predaliens in video games and comics. Not much detail is given to us about these creatures except there alien. I see this as "expanding" the whole predalien theory. I wasent too crazy about the idea at first but im keeping an open mind...
I think this will be the greatest thing of the movie, because is something new to the alien lifecycle, something we've never saw in any of the movies, and the predalien is a new creature, he has his own ways of reproduction, because he is the first of his kind.
I agree with semaka. The hybird or predalien is the first of its kind, so it is something new that it has devolped via predator dna maybe. everyone keep an open mind. I disagree with the predalien being a 'young queen' that i dont like but, the life cycle i think is interesting.
I'm fairly surprised so many people have positive responces. In the forum almost everyone...well, vomited on the idea. :D
so let me see if i got this right.. instead of facehugger out of egg onto face and then embryo out of chest...now its predalien "spits" them into the victum's mouth???? I'm not real sure about this but I guess I'll wait and see how this plays out.
a rape scene? CANT WAIT TO SEE IT!!!!! LOL ;D
no,no,no when he says 'rape' scene in Alien...he means that the alien tail went up into her vagina, if you look closely the aliens tail is sliding down the floor and pulls upward above Lambert so that's how she dies xenomorph tail up the vagina which i guess they call rape
its been a long time since i've seen alien!!! and i can't remember that scene, as a matter of fact i can't remember who lambert is, was she blond?? think i might just remember! nowcan't remember her death though lol
In the novel ALIEN 3 (which was based on the movie) it says that an alien drone after it bursts has one and only one egg in it,this egg is implanted into the host through the second mouth( <- ).There is a 1 in 1000 chance that the new alien will be a queen.So,if the drone lays one egg through the mouth,and the queen lays any number of eggs through the egg sack then whould'nt the phase in the middle allow them to have any number of eggs that can be implanted through the mouth while the egg sack is developing? 8) .
Also in the novel AVP:Prey it says that in a hive without a queen one of the drones will turn into a queen to save the hive.So if a drone turns into a queen then whoul'nt there be a stage in between?.If there is then i think it should be called a "young queen" stage 8) .
One thing about egg morphing... i just "effin" hated it... turning a victim into an egg? FFS! Dont get me wrong.. that was one creepy scene in the director's cut of the first one.. but this new development makes much more sense than that one... one question though.. would egg morhping produce new drones or simply new facehuggers? Those "eggs" were too big for a facehugger!
To me, in a few of the new stills, the predalien's chest almost resembles an upside down face-hugger. I wonder if there's any significance to that, or if it's just simply part of the creature design, or if it's just my crazy perception/imagination, and I'm completely off-base.
It kinda looks like he has muscles like the predator. I don't like tough the ideea making hair on the predalien's head. Come on, this is wrong, the aliens that are born from humans don't have hair, neither the alien wich bursted from a dog (ox), they have lots of hair, but the alien didn't have hair. This sucks big in my oppinion. The predalien head seen from side, looks like a praetorian head (alien between Drone and Queen, that's the creature between drone and queen), so it might turn into a Queen, and if you look exactly in the trailer, the pipes on his back are sharp at the ends, the alien queen has sharp pipes on her back, so the Predalien, might be, a Predalien Queen (the creature is young)
The Dreadlocks make more sense if you dont perceive them as being "hair" hehe and the original Giger design for the alien 3 Ox had horns.... still wish they'd used that design... looked like pure Evil!
The Dreadlocks make more sense if you dont perceive them as being "hair" hehe and the original Giger design for the alien 3 Ox had horns.... still wish they'd used that design... looked like pure Evil!
I am only 50-50 on this.
What do we know about predator life cycles? Maybe the marvelously adaptive alien picked up a trait? (Big alien fan, not so familiar on predator lore past the movies...) I think the strength of the alien/predator movies has been willingness to do something new every time - if filmmakers feel too much like they have to redo old gags over and over, the series get boring. I'm reserving judgment to see how well this film works as a movie. Lighting, timing, mood, and filming will matter more than alien life cycle.
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theyre facehuggers
We need to allow our minds to open fully, think outside the box. comandante :D you've hit the nail on the head, exactly, these directors are allowing themselves to expand more upon the Alien and Predator universe without completely altering anything of which we've seen. egg - facehugger - chestbuster - aliendrone - Queen alien. What we may be seeing is a predalien spieces (chet) in the stages period of growing to a full fledge Quen Predalien so it does not have the capacity yet to produce eggs, The regurgiating part makes complete sense Nice one Strause bros, still backing you 100% on this movie.
Whats the site Zero .T?.Theres no link!.
I have the OCT and the NOV issues now and the Strause brothers have not disapointed me once!.May your crops always be fruitful and may the Black Warrior and Hive Queen watch over you always!.ROCK ON!!! l,,l_ ;D _l,,l .
luv the regurgitating thing, didnt sumone say it was a queen in earlier posts?
;D :o 8) this movie just keeps looking and sounding better and better everytime, can't wait for this, maybe the predailen regurgitates in maybe one or few people, and then when one of those aliens comes out, it might be a queen, there has to be since we saw those pics of the face hugger, who knows?, this movies gonna kick ass and i hope there's more AVP, Alien, and Predator movies after this, i'm 22, been down with these franchises since i was 9, so fox, keep making these sons of bitches,lol p.s.-aliens+space marines or aliens+space marines+predators would make awesome sequels, with the right story of course..
Some of you do really know NOTHING about Aliens do you??? Im SHOCKED that no one has mentioned the (Praetorian) Alien, which are the aliens that look after the hive with the queen, there are only about 2/3 of them and they look the same as the queen aswell but they are the size of the drone. This Alien is mentioned in the comics alot and also the games, but they are choosen for new queens if they are needed. Do some REASEARCH PEOPLE!! egg - facehugger - chestbuster - aliendrone -Praetorian (if Selected) - Queen alien.
cud b right PREDATOR WORIOR, lyk in a trailer we saw 3 chestbursters rising up, maybe their frm the same chest( previously impregnated by predalien )?
(1) What have Predator genetics got to do with it? Aliens from humans don't have guiant phallic organs on their crotches. (2) Praetorians are pointless. We would have seen at least one in 'Aliens' and there weren't any. (3) Yeah, this is more efficient and it fits right in with the concept of what they are. Unfortunately, it contradicts natural Queens. What would be the point of them if any Alien can just move away from the nest and become one of them?
Here's my opinion on this new method: First of all, this regurgitation method makes MUCH more sense, than the egg-morphing idea (which is also neat, but I don't think works for the Alien cycle). To me, this is just an alternative "face-hugger" and an interesting survival method. When the Queen is young and not ready to reproduce the masses of eggs through an egg-sac (and assuming there are no other Alien warriors around, at the time), the Queen will run around and quickly plant hosts with embryos that are probably in much more advanced stages, than face-hugger embryos, thus the embryos that are regurgitated will burst faster. The face-huggers have a slower process of "imprenating". but there will MORE of the face-huggers, when the eggs are layed of course. There is an odd balance to all of this new method...
So, once the Queen has enough warriors to help construct a hive, she goes into hiding within the hive and matures, thus she becomes full-grown, produces an egg-sac and starts to produce the hundreds to thousands of eggs, which do the process at a slightly slower pace, but at a much grander scale. Now, when the Queen is running around "regurgitating" the embryos, I think the process of the embryo being created inside of her will be faster than a facehugger, but the time in between the creation of the embryos will probably not be in a matter of minutes, but certainly not as long as human pregancy, for example. Ok, so again, the Queen quickly creates enough Alien warriors to protect her/create a hive for her to hide in and grow and egg sac. This is a survival tactic that makes sense. This method is far more quicker than a human being turned into an Alien egg, which in my opinion, conflicts the idea of a Queen anyway. The Queen is the ONLY one that should produce the eggs.
Now, this molting into a Queen idea...well, if there is no Queen, when there are Alien drones running around, you could argue that's when egg-morphing could occur, but let's not bring that into play for the cycle...to me, yes, Queens should be born through a chest-burster, (as we have seen in previous movies). In ALIENS, I assumed a Queen was born through a chestburster, which probably bursted out of Newt's father (sure, the chances are low, but there's a chance). I'm hoping that the PredAlien is just a Queen that is "maturing" (molting). I don't like the idea of an Alien warrior, suddenly becoming a Queen, just because there is no Queen present. Hell, how would this apply to ants and bees? Is there ALWAYS a qeen bee or queen ant born in a hive?
Yeah thats all true... Well we know that it takes a super-face hugger as seen in the Cut version of Alien 3 to produce a Queen Alien. As far as we know, its not possible for a normal drone to just become a queen right? (however, would be a cool process to see maybe at the start of a film with all the aliens forming a group and kinda selecting a queen and see what happeneds next?) But the Aliens would know which egg the queen is in, so all they would have to do is take the human host to that egg.
this reproduction by vomit sounds like low budget straight-to-DVD stuff. I hope it looks better than it sounds
don't remember the rape scene...
Try as you might, there's no way both the new methods can co-exist with what we know. If any adult can transform, there would never be any natural Queens. Adults would imply move out and become one. Likewise, if they can orally implant someone, why were the Nostromo and Fury Aliens doing that? What was preventing them? It could look really atmospheric on screen, but it makes too many things obselete. If we don't see 100% proof of it becoming a Queen, we can, however, salvage it. There are ways ot amke it fit, then. The victims being eggs being to crete Queen facehuggers and teh oral method being to create regular adults, for instance.
Why weren't they doing that, even. :)
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From Alien III, Fasano's screenplay of Vincent Ward's story THE ALIEN CHEST BURSTER SLITHERS out of Ripley's mouth -- INTO JOHN'S!! Reptilian tail whips about before disappearing down his gullet. John falls back against a computer console. Gagging. Fights to speak. Ripley raises herself up on one elbow. Alien mucous drooling down her chin. Hair matted against her forehead. RIPLEY Why? JOHN Choking. It was the only way. He drops the open book in front of her: She sees the etching. JOHN Gulps back the oozing slime. Struggles to his feet.
I don't support the egg-morphing method. Remember that the idea was brought up, before Cameron thought of introducing a Queen to the cycle. So, the egg-morphing cycle should be thrown out the window. The method does not fit with the "Alien" characterstic, anyway. Maybe it would work for another type of creature, but certainly not the xenomorphs. I think Queens should be born as chestbursters, just like the Alien drones/warriors. For an Alien warrior to change sex and start to develop into a Queen, because it can and wants to, does not make sense. Now, if this is something only a PredAlien could do, since it's a "freak", then MAYBE it would be ok. But a normal Alien drone/warrior....um, no.
A VERY BAD IDEA! WHY MESS WITH SOMETHING THAT ISN'T BROKEN? >:(
Aha! So the PredAlien has acid reflux. Sorry, bad pun. Sounds cool though.
i don't think giger had horns on the alien.
Who wana bet with me dat the ending of the film will have Wolf eventually be killed by PredAlien but then an army of Preds appear out of nowhere & capture the PredAlien? Since the Strause bros said the ending will be a cliffhanger & wil have a continuation in space. Just a hunch. 8)
why does everyone of you keep arguing about the Predalien being a queen, maybe it's not a queen, and mayeb becuase of it's genetics, it's the predalien that's able to do this new reproductive thing and only the predalien, and there has to be a queen in the film too and only the queens can lay eggs, so booyaa ;D this movies gonna kick ass
??? who knowz in alien 3 the alien in that has 2 jobz protek the queen thatz in riply 4 3 2 7 dayz and 2 get food so the queen has longer 2 grow in alien it could b said that that 1 had 2 make the queen 2 which is what the predalien is doing and the alien has lotz of survival wayz about it 1 big 1 is the egg that lives long after the queen is dead and gonebut in the end its just a movie just hope itz a good 1 ??? oh and how did those eggs get on the ship on alien 3 ;D ??? :-X
Everyone:Combine comments #29,30,49 & 50.Theres your answer 8) .
A drone/warrior transforming into a queen is stupid... but my idea would be the pred-alien has the ability to vomit an embryo into a host for a short period of time, hoping one of the host chest burst's a queen..that would be sensible. the pred-alien would only be able to vomit embryo's for short period of time tho...and it's not a queen its simply got this reproductive method somehow thru the predator DNA now thats way better What u guys think? Rock On! :-X
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!! NO!!! and NO!!!!! thats the job for the face huggers
THE PREDATORS Reproduction Cycle is maybe regergtating in a females mouth and the characteristics of the predalien is the same
Just look at the inside of a predators mouth, its quite possible.
PLEASE READ!!!! PLEASE READ!!!! PLEASE READ!!!! THIS IS ABOUT THE SEX REPRODUCTION OF THE PREDATORS KNOW I WAS THINKING WHAT IF THE PREDATORS REPRADUCE BY THE MALE REGURGITATING IN THE FEMALES MOUTH THIS EXPLAINS THE PREDALIEN PREDATOR TRATE FOR REGURGITATING AN EGG INSIDE THE HOSTS MOUTHS THE MANDABLES CLUCH THE FACE AND THEN LAYS THE EMBRYO EGG BY VOMIT THIS IS THE ONLY REASON THEY CANT MESS THE ALIEN Reproduction Cycle THIS ONLY APPLIES TO PREDALIENS PLEASE LET THIS THEORY BE REAL
CALL THIS GRIKERS THEORY
i hope im right
Have any of you ever read ALIEN3 or AVP:Prey?.You'll find that my theory is the right one!.
most likely the reproductive cycle of the host is carried over meaning that since the preds dont have genitals they reproduce via the regurgitating...we might recall that were going to see someones planet too so keep the theory open to suggestion. ;) :)
Scarface:How do you know that the preds dont have genitals?.In the movies its always coverd up with armor,in the comics its always coverd up with armor,in the books it never says they dont have genitals.So how can you be so sure? 8) .My theory makes the most sence! 8) 8) 8) .
Let me explainmy theroy....I think that the Predalien has 2 tounges, a head biteing jaw, and a impregnating tounge.Then the Predalien finds a host and then it will impregnate the host throught the mouth or butt.After that the victem will be in a coma intell the Predalien is done impregnating the host throught the mouth or butt. After that the host will wake up after a few hours intell the hybrid chestburster burst out of the victem's chest. :'( ;D ::) :)
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