What Could Be Considered the "Standard" Alien Design?

[Alien³]

Kane's son, hands down

[Aceburster]

  For me Aliens is standard, its just been used more.

  In a perfect world Id rather see this without eyesockets.

So ... Aliens then?

Love this guy

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And this one too

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Sorta I guess. The Aliens head is ridged but its a little simplified tho, the jaw is a bit different too. But the Cameron Alien doesnt have the contrasting meat on bone detail at all, its all one color.

Gigers is way taller and lankier, the detail on the Giger Alien beats it hands down, I like the original feet compared to the Cameron Aliens, I dont like the arm blades at all, and prefer the original tail too. If they crossbred the hand style of the original with the length of the Cameron Aliens fingers for a bit more length and creepiness then it would be nice.

Personally the original for the most part and only a tweak to the head which was always under there. For generalizing yea, Camerons Alien because of the head ect.

[StrangeShape]

Gigers is way taller and lankier,

Actually its the other way around. Winston's "hero" alien (animatronic puppets) is taller and much slimmer than Giger's "hero" alien (Badejo) - http://www.jamescamerononline.com/AlienWarrior.htm

the detail on the Giger Alien beats it hands down,

But Winston aliens have actually every single piece of Gigers design on them, its just that the material is different/simplified

I like the original feet compared to the Cameron Aliens

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Same

I dont like the arm blades at all, and prefer the original tail too.

Some had longer ones, which worked for the great silhouettes shots, some had the same length blades as Gigers

If they crossbred the hand style of the original with the length of the Cameron Aliens fingers for a bit more length and creepiness then it would be nice.

The hands actually I like much more from Winston. I agree with his statement that the shape and look of the original was too glove-like. Its all opinion of course

Personally the original for the most part and only a tweak to the head which was always under there. For generalizing yea, Camerons Alien because of the head ect.

I love what Giger had done underneath the dome so I enjoy it when those designs are exposed in Aliens. BUT, I do also love the smooth, creepy dome

[Aceburster]

The animatronic stuff is one thing but the practical suits are what im basing the differences on.



It probably came down to needing something quick and tough for action shots and stunts but that stubby simple look is... ouch.

  The animatronics in all of the movies are amazing to me in their details, regardless of design.

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That 'simple stubby look' isn't evident in the film so it doesn't make much difference.

[StrangeShape]

That 'simple stubby look' isn't evident in the film so it doesn't make much difference.

Right. You see them as something like this

Plus, if you wanna discard animatronics as the main aliens then discard Badejo from alien as well. After all he only played in two scenes, the rest was done by people same size of the guys from aliens. Hell, even same exact people like Eddie Powell who played the alien in the Brett and Dallas scene and was one of the aliens in Aliens as well

[Aceburster]

 I can tell with the one that jumps on Dietrich, the practical ones in the ceiling, the jumpers during the last stand, the one that drake shoots and the sentry gun victims. It may just be that ive seen them too much, but for as long as i can remember I thought they were short and stubby.

Edit: and yea the Alien is a composite depending on scene, the quality of the original, practical or otherwise is much better than in Aliens. Its still my favorite move so do I care not really. Just pointing it out. 

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The one Drake shoots is barely visible behind flames and is on screen for less than a second... 

[StrangeShape]

I can tell with the one that jumps on Dietrich, the practical ones in the ceiling, the jumpers during the last stand, the one that drake shoots and the sentry gun victims. It may just be that ive seen them too much, but for as long as i can remember I thought they were short and stubby.

Well they werent. Judging by pictures , they were about the size of Cameron who is 6'2. And again, its the same guy who was Alien in Brett and Dallas scenes. And we dont actually see them in relation to a human, not the stunt people, only puppets. Same principle as in the first movie - for revealing sshots and shots that showed the size, a hero alien was used. Bolaji in Alien for Lambert and Narcissus interior scenes, and puppets in Aliens, many, many times.

That selectivism that you do can be applied to the first movie as well, where you can say that the same "chubby and small" guy looks terrible. After all, same guy had probably as much screentime as alien in Alien as Bolaji

[Aceburster]

The one Drake shoots is barely visible behind flames and is on screen for less than a second... 

  Do you dislike my attention to detail?

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No, just your odd selection of data to support your argument.

[StrangeShape]

And of course, I use the term chubby sarcastically cause none of those people were out of shape. They were dancers and gymnasts in top notch shape naturally. I just simply dont like those false legends like "warrior is a complete redesign from scratch, aliens in Aliens were fat midgets, original alien had nothing to do with insects and Kanes son was actually a space Jack the Ripper" etc

[Aceburster]

And of course, I use the term chubby sarcastically cause none of those people were out of shape. They were dancers and gymnasts in top notch shape naturally. I just simply dont like those false legends like "warrior is a complete redesign from scratch, aliens in Aliens were fat midgets, original alien had nothing to do with insects and Kanes son was actually a space Jack the Ripper" etc

Oh I hear ya, its like the "acid spittting" myth lol. I cant say that the Aliens were out of shape, just effectively 2 feet shorter than how the first one was portrayed. Predators suffer some of the same problems, some of it is how scenes were shot, who was in the suit, how much of it was revealed in frame. Really its the detailing of the suit that sticks out to me as well as how deeply seated the head is into the neck, length of the legs compared to the torso.

[StrangeShape]

Oh I hear ya, its like the "acid spittting" myth lol. I cant say that the Aliens were out of shape, just effectively 2 feet shorter than how the first one was portrayed.

Cant say I agree with that. In both movies in scenes where theyre next to people, everyone looks up very high

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There's an "acid spitting myth"?