Neill Blomkamp: "I think [Alien 5] is totally dead"

Started by Darkness, Jun 03, 2017, 04:34:16 PM

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JokersWarPig

The most unfortunate thing to come from the butchering that Covenant is doing.

zoidy

Jim Cameron? When was his last good film?

Terminator 2.




PierreVW

Quote from: zoidy on Jun 06, 2017, 04:56:46 PM
Jim Cameron? When was his last good film?

Terminator 2.

I agree. 26 years ago.

And He made only 2 movies in the last 20 years: titanic(1997) and avatar(2009).

SpreadEagleBeagle

I can see that the viagra for Cameron is still in effect...

Valaquen

Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 06, 2017, 07:28:05 PM
I can see that the viagra for Cameron is still in effect...

So is the weird 'James Cameron took a shit and made me smell it' attitude that a lot of his detractors have.

You go around enough fandoms and you find it's just everyday movie talk  :-\

PierreVW

Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 06, 2017, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 06, 2017, 07:28:05 PM
I can see that the viagra for Cameron is still in effect...

So is the weird 'James Cameron took a shit and made me smell it' attitude that a lot of his detractors have.

You go around enough fandoms and you find it's just everyday movie talk  :-\

It's NOT realistic to talk about Cameron because the man only made a movie every 11 years.

Cameron said his Avatar 2 is in 2020 and his final Avatar 5 is in 2025.

SM

And he was making movies every 2-3 years between 1981 and 1997.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

zoidy

zoidy

#127
I think the point is that was  .... in 1997?

In 1997 I was young, stupid, drunk, and absolutely f**king brilliant. It's, sadly, 2017 now.  ;D


Here's how to think about Jim Cameron, director without a good film to his name since 1997 (that's not a criticism btw, just a fact).

John Carpenter made some of THE BEST MOVIES ever. Along with Alien, he made arguably the best lovecraftian horror ever, in the The Thing remake, and some of the best genre movies in cinema history, redefining horror with Halloween. Hell, I think In The Mouth of Madness is bordering on genius.

But as he hasn't made a good movie since the 90's, would I think he would be the best choice for a big budget horror movie? Um ....

JokersWarPig

Yeah I don't understand the hate Cameron gets. I've liked all his movies, even Abyss. Titanic wasn't my cup of tea but I still think it's a good movie and worthy of every good thing said about it.

The man is a great director, and the hate I see for him on this forum mostly stems from people who hold Alien and Alien 3 as the best movies in the series.

zoidy

The point surely isnt whether cameron is a good director, he is. the question is whether we think he is the man to "save" the alien movies, or to do a new Alien 5-ish.

No. Because a) he shows no sign of interest in other projects than his own nebulous vapor-ware movie these days, and b) he hasn't made a good movie, less a studio contracted and restricted movie since, well, T2.

It's a fantasy idea.


XenoHunter99

Quote from: newagescamartist on Jun 06, 2017, 03:23:31 AM
I wish someone would leak the plot. I really want to see what this movie would have been about. The one piece of concept art that intrigues me is the ship in the warehouse.
I agree. It seems like the plot of a whole movie could be built around that one painting. How'd it get there, what's it doing there, what happens next?

NickisSmart

Quote from: zoidy on Jun 06, 2017, 08:50:13 PM
I think the point is that was  .... in 1997?

In 1997 I was young, stupid, drunk, and absolutely f**king brilliant. It's, sadly, 2017 now.  ;D


Here's how to think about Jim Cameron, director without a good film to his name since 1997 (that's not a criticism btw, just a fact).

John Carpenter made some of THE BEST MOVIES ever. Along with Alien, he made arguably the best lovecraftian horror ever, in the The Thing remake, and some of the best genre movies in cinema history, redefining horror with Halloween. Hell, I think In The Mouth of Madness is bordering on genius.

But as he hasn't made a good movie since the 90's, would I think he would be the best choice for a big budget horror movie? Um ....

Don't forget Big Trouble in Little China.

As for him directing a new horror film, I just don't think his heart is in it. Say what you want about Ridley Scott, I think he's still pretty passionate about actually making movies. I can't say the same about Carpenter or Cameron. I think Blompkamp is a little disenfranchized, lately.

Perfect-Organism


PierreVW

PierreVW

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Quote from: zoidy on Jun 06, 2017, 08:50:13 PM
I think the point is that was  .... in 1997?

In 1997 I was young, stupid, drunk, and absolutely f**king brilliant. It's, sadly, 2017 now.  ;D


Here's how to think about Jim Cameron, director without a good film to his name since 1997 (that's not a criticism btw, just a fact).

John Carpenter made some of THE BEST MOVIES ever. Along with Alien, he made arguably the best lovecraftian horror ever, in the The Thing remake, and some of the best genre movies in cinema history, redefining horror with Halloween. Hell, I think In The Mouth of Madness is bordering on genius.

But as he hasn't made a good movie since the 90's, would I think he would be the best choice for a big budget horror movie? Um ....

I agree 100%.


Quote from: zoidy on Jun 06, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
The point surely isnt whether cameron is a good director, he is. the question is whether we think he is the man to "save" the alien movies, or to do a new Alien 5-ish.

No. Because a) he shows no sign of interest in other projects than his own nebulous vapor-ware movie these days, and b) he hasn't made a good movie, less a studio contracted and restricted movie since, well, T2.

It's a fantasy idea.

I agree.

It's NOT realistic.


Quote from: NickisSmart on Jun 07, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Jun 06, 2017, 08:50:13 PM
I think the point is that was  .... in 1997?

In 1997 I was young, stupid, drunk, and absolutely f**king brilliant. It's, sadly, 2017 now.  ;D


Here's how to think about Jim Cameron, director without a good film to his name since 1997 (that's not a criticism btw, just a fact).

John Carpenter made some of THE BEST MOVIES ever. Along with Alien, he made arguably the best lovecraftian horror ever, in the The Thing remake, and some of the best genre movies in cinema history, redefining horror with Halloween. Hell, I think In The Mouth of Madness is bordering on genius.

But as he hasn't made a good movie since the 90's, would I think he would be the best choice for a big budget horror movie? Um ....

Don't forget Big Trouble in Little China.

As for him directing a new horror film, I just don't think his heart is in it. Say what you want about Ridley Scott, I think he's still pretty passionate about actually making movies. I can't say the same about Carpenter or Cameron. I think Blompkamp is a little disenfranchized, lately.

I agree.

Sir Ridley Scott loves to work. Right now, Sir Ridley is Filming his new film ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD.

John Carpenter is retired.

Gash

Quote from: JohnnyChimpo on Jun 05, 2017, 12:29:49 PM
I too have always had mixed feelings about this project. Blomkamp was definitely smart with the way he went around getting everyone excited, he hit that retro/nostalgia love that we all can fall victim too. He knows there is still a large part of the fanbase that hates Alien 3 for killing off these characters, and he played up to that.

I don't know that it was that smart a move. Sure it stirred up certain fan circles and got him name-checked a lot in news feeds looking for a new angle, but I'm guessing he's now most famous in Hollywood for a couple of significant failures and for muscling in on someone else's ongoing project.

The only positive spin you could put on the whole thing is that it probably compelled Scott to forge ahead a little sooner than he would have done otherwise.

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