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Zack Snyder Sets Next Movie, Sci-Fi Adventure 'Rebel Moon', at Netflix (Exclusive)

Snyder will co-write and direct the intergalactic adventure that is inspired by Japanese filmmaker Akira Kurosawa and 'Star Wars.'


BY BORYS KIT



JULY 6, 2021 2:42PM

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Zack Snyder has gone from zombie apocalypses and ancient Greece to nightmares and Metropolis. Now the filmmaker is heading into far away galaxies.

Snyder has set his next project, an epic sci-fi fantasy titled Rebel Moon that he is co-writing and will direct and produce for Netflix, the home of his most recent hit, Army of the Dead. And it re-teams the filmmaker with many of the creative colleagues of his past original ventures.

Snyder is co-writing the script with Army co-screenwriter Shay Hatten and Kurt Johnstad, who co-wrote 300, Snyder's stylish sword-and-sandal flick adapting the Frank Miller comic. Snyder and Johnstad will receive story by credit.

And he will produce with wife and producing partner Deborah Snyder via the duo's Stone Quarry along with longtime principal Wesley Coller. Eric Newman, who produced Snyder's 2004 feature debut, Dawn of the Dead, as well as movies ranging from Children of Men and Project Power to Bright and the upcoming Spiderhead, is producing via his banner, Grand Electric. Grand Electric's Sarah Bowen will exec produce.

Rebel also puts Snyder back in business with Netflix's Scott Stuber, who oversaw Dawn of the Dead in his then role of vice-chairman of Universal and was instrumental in bringing in Army of the Dead.

The story is set in motion when a peaceful colony on the edge of the galaxy is threatened by the armies of a tyrannical regent named Balisarius. Desperate people dispatch a young woman with a mysterious past to seek out warriors from neighboring planets to help them make a stand.

"This is me growing up as an Akira Kurosawa fan, a Star Wars fan," Snyder tells The Hollywood Reporter. "It's my love of sci-fi and a giant adventure. My hope is that this also becomes a massive IP and a universe that can be built out."

Rebel finds the germs of its origins in a Star Wars pitch the filmmaker had developed a decade ago. It was a more mature take on the universe created by George Lucas and didn't move beyond any meaningful conversations after the Walt Disney Company acquired LucasFilm in 2012. At one point, he and Newman even went down the path of making it a series.

But it was as a feature that he felt its true potential lay. He began reworking the idea with Johnstad and really dove in at the same time as he began making Army of the Dead, bringing in that movie's co-scribe, Hatten. The latter, at 27, had quietly become an in-demand franchise writer, deepening the world of John Wick for Lionsgate by working on the third and upcoming fourth and fifth installments.

"I've spent the last two or three years building out this universe. Every corner has to be painted in. I've been doing designs, constantly drawing and really cultivating its fertile ground to make this world fully realized."

Army was viewed by 72 million people in its first four weeks, according to Netflix, landing it in the streamer's top 10 most watched movies. Even before its May 14 release, Snyder and Stone Quarry had a German-language prequel movie and an anime series in production, making Army not just an original property, but a franchise.

Rebel will be another IP and a hoped-for franchise for Netflix, which is building its arsenal in the age of streaming wars.

The feature will be Snyder's next movie and the hope is to begin production in early 2022. "I've been working on this on the side for so long, it's pretty far along," he says.

All this unfurls as Snyder has one of the biggest years in his filmmaking career. On top of Army and the new project, he also saw his vision of Justice League restored and make a splashy debut on HBO Max. And the movie's recent international release on DVD and Blu-ray saw it catapult to the top of the sales charts in several countries, France and Brazil among them.

Repped by CAA, Lee Stobby Entertainment and Lichter Grossman, Hatten is becoming a Snyder and Netflix mainstay. Rebel marks his fifth collaboration with the streamer, including Army, the prequel, the anime, as well as Day Shift, Netflix's vampire thriller starring Jamie Foxx that is currently shooting.

Johnstad more recently co-wrote the Charlize Theron action movie Atomic Blonde. He is repped by UTA and Sloane Offer.

Snyder is repped by CAA.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/zack-snyder-sets-next-movie-sci-fi-adventure-rebel-moon-at-netflix-exclusive-1234978201/

https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1455610836500815876

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https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1491542458450202631

As someone that usually doesn't care for Snyder's works at all and hasn't bothered watching anything he's done since Man of Steel (which I outright hated)... I'm actually, shockingly, intrigued by this one. I don't believe myself, either.

Yeah, we've seen a million sci-fi Kurosawa riffs at this point, but I'm always curious to check out new space opera that isn't necessarily coming from one of the major franchises like Star Wars or Marvel or DC (I know, this project had its genesis in a Star Wars spinoff movie pitch that never came to be, but still).

Massive, overproduced, potentially very messy space opera spectacle from a director that won't take no for an answer? Hell, I was willing and able to roll with Jupiter Ascending for what it is, despite its myriad of issues, and I'll give it a shot here too. :D The concept art is all pretty neat.

More casting news

https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1512532955758952449

If the don't play space vampire hunters I'm going to be very upset and leave a stern worded post here when the movie premieres.

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1516550551164522502

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1534213690211201024 (https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1534213690211201024)

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1534596419398402048

I already love Jimmy. The murderous obviously Zack Snyder designed murderbot voiced by Anthony Hopkins. I hope this whole saga is maximalist excess.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeekVibesNation/status/1605593037794443264

Quote from: ace3g on Dec 21, 2022, 05:09:02 PMhttps://mobile.twitter.com/GeekVibesNation/status/1605593037794443264

It kinda looks like a TIE Fighter cockpit :o  8)

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Skip to 2:03 in the video for first footage from the film.

https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1615701884307927040 (https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1615701884307927040)

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1615704434956242944

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1666088694162530309

Ahhhh damn it Zack Snyder, you actually got me on this one. I'll be watching.

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https://twitter.com/zacksnyder/status/1670461376207224834

https://twitter.com/rebelmoon/status/1670531505410686976

https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1674810274212204545

Netflix seems to be trying to find a brand new major IP but how different will it be to Star Wars which is also failing? I don't expect much from this

https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1675460431970803714

Quote from: ace3g on Jul 02, 2023, 11:49:29 AMhttps://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1675460431970803714

QuoteFor Snyder, Jimmy represents a significant tonal addition to his sci-fi saga's more fantastical leanings – an Arthurian element to sit alongside influences ranging from Akira Kurosawa to George Lucas. "I'm a huge Excalibur fanatic," he tells Empire. "He's Lancelot for sure. I was thinking about him, and how Milius [another hero, played by E. Duffy and named after Conan The Barbarian writer-director John Milius, as well as filmmaker Mike Mills] is Percival." Expect a legendary arc for a robot like no other.

Rad.

https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1675822872374259712

https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1675868653823094785

Quote from: ace3g on Jul 03, 2023, 02:07:43 PMhttps://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1675868653823094785

QuoteWith his burly exterior, his experience as a rebel leader, and his big, bold weaponry, Bloodaxe is exactly the kind of guy you'd want on your side. In bringing him to life, Fisher looked to the same sources as his director. "I pulled from the Seven Samurai of it all," he tells Empire. "Certain postures I take with my weapon, some of them I modeled after Toshirô Mifune, who carries that katana in a very specific way over his shoulder. Sometimes what I would do, before a take would start, is whisper to myself, 'Mifune.'"

Cute.

https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1683507582009495552

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1692202122442420587

https://twitter.com/rebelmoon/status/1692625970019074173

https://twitter.com/netflixtudum/status/1693654235790098441

https://twitter.com/Clay_Staub/status/1693717021907980580

https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1693689427057398240

Very Frank Frazetta, very Heavy Metal Magazine. Looks ripe for a meathead space opera double feature viewing with The Chronicles of Riddick. I'm in.

EDIT, just found the interview with Snyder from the event where the trailer debuted:


EDIT again, another interview with Snyder: https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/rebel-moon-zack-snyder

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 22, 2023, 06:37:39 PMmeathead space opera

My favourite. Now hurry up with the 40k stuff, Cavill.

Quote from: Local Trouble on May 23, 2020, 12:52:31 AMIt occurs to me that Zack Snyder may be the perfect director to bring 40k to live action.  His style has actually been described as ridiculously bombastic and grimdark.

Depends how much he thinks he can "improve" on things. He can do grimdark and slap you in the face with religious imagery in the right way for the setting, but he's got a big head about his ideas too. Having said that, there's very obvious Cadians in that trailer.

If Cavill is the showrunner, he could get Snyder to direct. They go way back now.

True, I suppose.

I really like the straight up mythological creatures being thrown against the big sci-fi backdrops here. Pretty easy to see elements of where this grew out of Snyder's original Star Wars pitch too, what with the pretty explicit Space Nazi villains and all. Obviously the Seven Samurai tropes are all on full display, since that's making up the bones of these movies, and we know Conan the Barbarian (there's a character here named Milius) and Excalibur (Snyder's favorite movie, and he compared Anthony Hopkins' robot character Jimmy to Percival a while back) are going to be all over Rebel Moon as well.

Now what Rebel Moon really needs is a "man and giant lizard" sequence to really bring it all together.

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EDIT: Good article:

QuoteFrom the moment Zack Snyder's ambitious Netflix space opera Rebel Moon was first announced, one aspect of its backstory has earned more attention than anything else: The film began as a Star Wars pitch.

"I remember calling Zack at some point 15 years ago," producer Eric Newman said at a splashy Hollywood Hills preview event for the film. Newman previously worked with Snyder on Dawn of the Dead. "He was talking about a 'Seven Jedi' movie in the Star Wars universe."

The idea of making a Star Wars movie based on Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai almost seems circular: That movie, which has been remade and reimagined dozens of times over, as everything from the 1960 Western The Magnificent Seven to Pixar's A Bug's Life, was a major influence on George Lucas. But the pitch, which eventually made its way to Lucasfilm, was never developed for many reasons, one being Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm in 2012 and that brass' approach to the franchise.

The theatrical Star Wars movies have largely revolved around legacy characters, but Snyder's plan involved an entirely fresh cast, with no relationships to past Star Wars protagonists. When Lucasfilm's plan for the sequel trilogy fell into place, Snyder's movie disappeared from any future planning boards. But that may be for the better.

"I never wanted it to be [a Star Wars movie], because your hands are tied to the IP," Deborah Snyder said at the event. She's a longtime producer of her husband's movies. "I was happy it fell apart."

"Debbie said, 'Thank God, you would've been so sad,'" Zack recalled. Snyder continued to stew on his story, which he says he actually thought up in a film school pitch class back in the 1980s. After Snyder's fruitful collaboration with Netflix on the zombie movie Army of the Dead and its prequel, Army of Thieves, Snyder decided it was time to develop his old Star Wars idea into an original adventure for the streamer.

That Tuesday, far away from the picket lines outside of Netflix, reporters gathered inside the private theater of a nearly $10 million home to get a first look at the trailer for Snyder's new epic, which is meant to be a two-part movie project that will also expand into a massive video game.

It was a "universe of Rebel Moon trailer" for both parts that made it clear that Snyder is going bigger than he's ever gone before. Even his four-hour version of Justice League pales in comparison. Long gone are the days of developing a DC galactic showdown between gods among men. Snyder is attempting to create, in his own words, "a new universe." That phrasing feels pointed, and the marketing plan feels direct: Zack Snyder wants to kickstart a post-Star Wars era for big-screen space opera.

Two key events converged in 2017 to make this project happen: Snyder's firing from Justice League, and the fervent, vitriolic fan reaction to Rian Johnson's risk-embracing Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

After DC's separation from Snyder, the company flailed through different philosophical approaches to its cinematic universe, alternately promising a more cohesive MCU-style single storyline and, with the success of 2019's Joker, more stand-alone movies taking place in their own universes. Meanwhile, Star Wars movies kept failing either at the box office or with critics and fans. The time seems ripe for more movies that don't come with the weight of all that IP — like The Creator, an upcoming original sci-fi movie from Rogue One: A Star Wars Story director Gareth Edwards. Blink and you might confuse frames from The Creator trailer for those in a galaxy far, far away.

"I hadn't really thought about that," Snyder said about the connection between Rebel Moon and The Creator, two original sci-fi worlds from filmmakers with vested interests in Star Wars. "It's kind of what Debbie said about struggling and being hitched to IP you don't really control. The difficulties associated with pushing a vision through that is controversial."

Edwards reportedly faced a great deal of studio interference on Rogue One, much like Snyder faced with the multiple cuts of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Justice League. But Snyder's story is more extensive and complicated, with competing stories about why and when he departed Justice League, followed by a dramatic return to finish his final cut.

"I can't believe we got Justice League made," Deborah said. "Nobody can," Zack answered. But his cut of the movie ends with the promise of a grand battle that will never come. So far, Snyder's hopes of creating a generation-defining franchise are still unfulfilled.

Is Rebel Moon that franchise? The lead-up to the film has seemed like he wants to have his IP cake and eat it, too. The trailer and press images released for the film openly invoke Star Wars, weaponizing Star Wars language and iconography, while emphasizing that this story never would've worked in Star Wars form.

"This is a culmination of all that we've done with storytelling, franchise-telling, world-building," said producer Wesley Coller, who has collaborated on Snyder's projects all the way back to his days of shooting commercials.

"He has a way bigger universe in mind, even beyond the first two films," Newman explained. "World creation is a really hard thing. There are a very small handful of filmmakers who could pull it off."

"More on this movie than others, I did more drawings," Snyder revealed, explaining that he'd produced somewhere between 3,000 and 4,000 pieces of art for the franchise over the span of four or five months.

The tone of the preview event frequently tipped in one direction: Rebel Moon is a rebuff of many things that have gone right and many things that have gone wrong in Snyder's career. Star Wars is the holy grail of many filmmakers who grew up in the '70s and '80s, but with Disney taking that franchise in its own direction, Snyder is ready for something of his own.

The need for original streaming content led to the release of his definitive Justice League. Now, he isn't wholly invested in the traditional cinematic experience for Rebel Moon. "With this, I was not super interested in a theatrical release, especially with the PG-13 versus extended cuts," Snyder said. "I feel like with the theatrical release, the way the model is, it takes some energy out of it."

Both parts of Rebel Moon are getting R-rated extended cuts, which will be more than 30 minutes longer than the films. But he didn't have to fight anyone to get those cuts made. "My big fans would say, 'Why are they f**king with you? Just do [the extended cuts],'" he laughed. "In the initial conversations with Netflix, they made it a part of the plan."

Control is the theme of Snyder's career. "I can't help myself," he admitted. "I was always inspired by movies like Brazil. There's a great history of director's cuts. It's like another movie to discover. There's this other tug, rabbit holes, it's amazing. For me, with my drawings, there ends up being a lot of that to tell a deeper-dive story. With director's cuts I've done in the past, in a vacuum, it's how the movie would exist. It's part of my relationship with fans."

It's subtextual or at least unclear, though, whether Snyder has actually had to compromise with Rebel Moon. His original script was 172 pages long, and Netflix film chairman Scott Stuber balked at a potential three-hour run time. Instead of whittling the story down to a Netflix-preferred two hours, Snyder decided to split it in two.

When he spoke about designing the films for a streaming audience, he sounded a lot like Ghosted director Dexter Fletcher, talking about an opening sequence he axed for fear that Apple TV Plus watchers would become bored after a few minutes without action and turn the movie off. "When you come out of the gate in a streaming movie, you have to be careful not to be too intense or too boring," Snyder explained. "I always was a huge advocate of having the opening of a movie come at you hard. [...] I think it makes you better."

But the big question remains: Will it all work? Will Zack Snyder shepherd the next Star Wars into this world via Netflix? During the explosion of social media and the "democratization" — a corporate-favorite word — of access to art and platforms to talk about art, viewers' relationships with movies have fundamentally changed. There may never be another Star Wars, simply because it's impossible to recreate such a phenomenon in today's cinematic ecosystem.

And with the cloud of secrecy that streamers place over true viewership numbers — a point of clear and essential debate in both the ongoing WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes relating to a number of issues, such as residuals — it may be impossible to tell whether Rebel Moon finds grand success. Is that why Snyder and company are de-emphasizing the idea of a theatrical release? Unless you're James Cameron, the history of original galactic-scale sci-fi at the box office isn't pretty.

For now, however, the Rebel Moon machine is running full steam ahead. Reportedly the real "rebel moon" isn't the moon in either part 1 or part 2 — it's something that would emerge in a proposed third film, or even a project beyond that.

"If I ended up having to make a few more [Rebel Moons], I'd be fine with that," he said. Whether he gets there will solidify the story of Snyder's career, and could help resolve where Hollywood — and epic-scale space opera that isn't full of droids and Wookiees — stands in this new age.

Rebel Moon Part 1: A Child of Fire is scheduled for release on Netflix on Dec. 22, with Part 2: The Scargiver scheduled for April 19, 2024.

https://www.polygon.com/23840513/rebel-moon-zack-snyder-star-wars-sci-fi-preview

Ok, that trailer looks pretty epic.

https://twitter.com/snyder_all/status/1709645405942698382

Some new photos

https://www.motionpictures.org/2023/08/new-rebel-moon-images-widen-scope-on-zack-snyders-sweeping-two-part-sci-fi-epic/

https://twitter.com/zacksnyder/status/1715382373024440451

House of the Bloodaxe is 100% the kind of grimdark pulp title I hope for and expect from expanded universe offshoots of these movies. So that's neat.

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1721576544144154870

Its wierd like 5th element and Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets with monsters from John Carter....the spider thing is in there kind of like the one from the recent Dune film. I just think things like this are made to be a bit tacky.

https://twitter.com/HellraisingG/status/1721597129313931420

https://twitter.com/rebelmoon/status/1723123974857703514

Not gonna lie, I want to see this. If only because I want to see what a Star Wars reboot might look like.

On an unrelated note: It won't be long before AI will be editing all of Snyder's trailers together. After all, it's not as if he doesn't believe in formula.

TC

https://twitter.com/EW/status/1725197863171531051

The only Star Wars thing that I'm actually interested in this year.. and it's not even Star Wars.

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https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1726761742750072986

https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1726454235871764487

First official image of the sequel:

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https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1726994043262107747

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1730589524378395106

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1732763116235034669

I am one of those who enjoys Valerian and the Cityof a Thousand Planets or John Carter (2012). I just love space opera so mutch! can't wait! 8)

A friend of mine went to the premiere the other day and said they did a whole thing at the entrance where the attendants were dressed in cloaks with the hoods up and one handed him a bag saying shhh quick take this and then when he got in another one took it off him being all shifty like he was smuggling something 😂

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1735056027979235653/

Pretty sick poster.

Rebel Moon got a 4 from IGN. Coming from IGN, it's probably good.

Of all the Zack Snyder movies I've seen - maybe this one will be good.

Seems you have to hope for his next movie...there are topics, my friends love to trigger me: Game of Thrones season 8, Covenant and Army of the Dead. Seems I got another one :D

Dunno about 'hope'.  I've seen a few of his flicks and they vary from average to crap, but this looks like space opera so it might be fun.

Reviews are saying it's crap. They biggest problems seem to be it's a soulless pastiche (so par for the course for Snyder) and basically a two hour set up for another movie, without itself being anything substantial.

I might wait for part two and watch them together.

Just watched it. Pretty much everything you'd expect from a Snyder film, so I enjoyed it well enough.

I'll end up watching one of these upcoming days in between Christmas and New Year's. Though I do wish the R rated cut could have just dropped simultaneously with the more stripped down one, given that it was the intended version...

My only real criticism is that it's kind of boring and generic, there's no real hardship, strictly a to b. Not enough JC imo.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 22, 2023, 08:34:41 PM

Quote from: Local Trouble on May 23, 2020, 12:52:31 AMIt occurs to me that Zack Snyder may be the perfect director to bring 40k to live action.  His style has actually been described as ridiculously bombastic and grimdark.

And I believe that more than ever now.  This show is a Warhammer 40k knock-off masquerading as a Star Wars knock-off.

Generic kinda soulless movie, weak script with over the top cliche characters/dialogue/scenes - style over substance CAN work, but not in this case I think.

Visually it often looks cheaper than necessary, guess because Snyder loves his fast lenses/out of focus shots (that look reminds me of cheap cosplay fan movies) and pointless slow-mo (like the dual shot of falling corn in the beginning). It's a narrow path between inspiration and stealing from other movies, but I can live with that aspect of the movie for what it is...in my opinion the lead (or what she got to work with) couldn't carry the movie.

The positives for me: I like some ideas/designs and would love to see more of this stuff - but just better. I think a mix of that visual style with Villeneuve's could work for a Warhammer movie. The bad guy was entertaining (guess 'cause he reminded me of Hans Landa), the robot could be something in the sequel (guess 'cause of Hopkin's voice). AND it was better than Army of the Dead - will give it a rewatch, could be a guilty pleasure movie...hoping for a better 2nd part.

I wonder what [cb]'s thoughts are?

Anthony Hopkins has the perfect robot voice.

You know what? 😍 I can see the stunning Jediesque asian cyborg lady as a live action of the  Star Wars Visions animes.


The rest is both campy but ambitious.

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..@nd Local Trouble is super right about the true nature of the IP. :P👉👈

Zack Snyder strikes again. Truly dreadful.

One review said it's like asking an AI to write a Star Wars movie. Honestly I don't find it that bad. I mean is not great, but definitely not atrocious either but rather an ok experience. It feels like a tribute to Space Opera & Epic Fantasy. Anyway I'm excited for the director cut.😅

Also, although it is a pastiche as others have said, it is not as if touchstone movies like Star Wars have been built from scratch (even our beloved Alien was stolen from everyone according to O'Bannon himself). It all depends on the execution and Rebel Moon's is not flawsless. But I enjoyed the eye candy stuff and I liked the idea of

Spoiler

a galactic Empire being divided by factions; the War-hammer-40kesque military structure vs a messianic dynasty (visually it gave me some Game of Thrones vibes😅) that wants to redeem the infamous and dystopian Imperium into a more nice form of government that promises biological life after death (literally) by supernatural means instead of military conquest and tyrany.

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That said, it was kind of refreshing to see a Seven Samurai style space adventure that doesn't take place in the galaxy far, far away now owned by the evil mouse Imperium :'(

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Another review points out Frank Frazetta-like visuals.

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Part 2 trailer

If you want Seven Samurai not in Star Wars land then Battle Beyond The Stars exists.

An enjoyable classic! 8)

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But I'm very easy to please :) and I'd like to see the final cut.😅

Quote from: via PolygonIn a recent conversation with Snyder, Polygon asked him exactly that. In the past, he's described the R-rated cut as being true to his "sexy, violent, crazy" vision for a "weirdo" version of the Star Wars-esque space opera. So is the R-rated cut sexier? More violent? "Crazier"?

"It's more about a deep dive into the universe — it's a lot more," Snyder clarifies. "It's almost like the story takes place in a slightly different dimension than this movie that's about to come out."

https://twitter.com/GamerIntel/status/1738238615942287731

Quote from: SM on Dec 26, 2023, 09:40:32 PMIf you want Seven Samurai not in Star Wars land then Battle Beyond The Stars exists.

Always dug Sybil Danning in her valkyrie outfit.

I had fun with this movie, but.... I do think it's Snyder's worst film at the moment. It was all over the place and needed an edit that gave it more time to breathe, get me more invested. Will watch the director's cut when Netflix releases it next year, but this cut was a one time watch.

Supposedly the script hasn't changed much since the days when Snyder was negotiating it with Lucasfilm to conceive it as a Star Wars spin-off. I wonder, if it had been given the green light, in what context / timeline this project would have been placed, in the Star Wars universe I mean.

Snyder would have made it look like one of the old movie posters come to life.

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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 27, 2023, 12:11:42 AMSupposedly the script hasn't changed much since the days when Snyder was negotiating it with Lucasfilm to conceive it as a Star Wars spin-off. I wonder, if it had been given the green light, in what context / timeline this project would have been placed, in the Star Wars universe I mean.

If I recall correctly, I think Snyder's intent was to set it after Return of the Jedi (which definitely seems like something Lucasfilm would have been reluctant about as they were venturing forth into the Sequel Trilogy proper).

Still haven't watched this yet. I probably will soon, but a part of me wants to just hold off and wait for the extended cut. From everything I'm hearing about this current cut, it sounds like it is pretty much a hacked apart movie with significant chunks haphazardly torn out.

Don't really see the point in a directors cut when it's gone straight to streaming.

Quote from: SM on Dec 27, 2023, 07:54:34 AMDon't really see the point in a directors cut when it's gone straight to streaming.

I enjoyed the film but I'm also going to be Frank and ask what's the point of releasing both parts separately if it's straight to streaming? Particularly since it looks like they've done filming for a good while now.

If it were in theaters.. well I'm not sure about that either because the film just seems too small for that as well.

Yeah, it seems so incredibly pointless to release it this chopped up form when streaming doesn't (or shouldn't) have any limitations in that regard, especially since they didn't bother with a theatrical release at all... but Netflix gonna Netflix, I guess.

It feels to me like they're trying to reverse engineer their own "#ReleaseTheSnyderCut" moment, which is gross and dumb and pointless as it gets when we literally know he was allowed to shoot the cut he wanted and they're just making him sit on it for a little bit before putting it out there.

#ReleaseTheSnyderCut
#ReleaseTheScottCut

Gonna be the next new sh*t !!1 :D

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 27, 2023, 10:17:04 AMYeah, it seems so incredibly pointless to release it this chopped up form when streaming doesn't (or shouldn't) have any limitations in that regard, especially since they didn't bother with a theatrical release at all... but Netflix gonna Netflix, I guess.

It feels to me like they're trying to reverse engineer their own "#ReleaseTheSnyderCut" moment, which is gross and dumb and pointless as it gets when we literally know he was allowed to shoot the cut he wanted and they're just making him sit on it for a little bit before putting it out there.

It's not like they release Stranger Things or any other Netflix series sequentially. Actually I'm starting to think this would've been better if it was a limited series, just release the whole thing.. without the recaps please.

Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 27, 2023, 10:59:50 AM#ReleaseTheSnyderCut
#ReleaseTheScottCut

Gonna be the next new sh*t !!1 :D

I can at least make a little more sense out of the Scott/Napoleon situation in that the shorter version was at least put in theaters, which isn't happening here, but yeah, Napoleon is another one where (despite me liking the movie overall) it felt like I was only watching a certain percentage of a movie given how much seemed to actually be glaringly missing.

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https://twitter.com/io9/status/1740112203804758458

Never understood all that hype about Snyder. The last good movies he mad was 300 (2007) and Watchmen (2009).

Snyderverse, i see...like dropping random sh*t into Army of the Dead (finding their own dead bodies with the plans, or supposedly robot zombies and so on). I thought it was just a bad zombie movie, but now everything is connected, multidimensonal time travel parallel universe, so clever...pulling a Lindelof.

Hope they can recruit Dr. Manhatten or some Spartans for pt II...though, maybe that shirtless guy is one. Or he will end up as the boss zombie in Army of the Dead.

Watched maybe two thirds of this yesterday before falling asleep. It all seems a little dull and very predictable with boring characters. And the endless uninteresting slow-mo shots.

Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2023, 09:34:42 PMWatched maybe two thirds of this yesterday before falling asleep. It all seems a little dull and very predictable with boring characters. And the endless uninteresting slow-mo shots.

Would it have been a better experience with a Wedge Antilles knock off?

Wedge Antilles versus World Devastators

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 28, 2023, 11:45:05 PM

Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2023, 09:34:42 PMWatched maybe two thirds of this yesterday before falling asleep. It all seems a little dull and very predictable with boring characters. And the endless uninteresting slow-mo shots.

Would it have been a better experience with a Wedge Antilles knock off?

A what now?

Here is my review of Rebel Moon Part One: A Child Of Fire.

This should be a case of "one and done", as it's so bad. But like his aborted zombie-verse, I guess the sequel will be the end of it. Apart from the opening sequence of Dawn, he's never made anything decent.

Quote from: Rudiger on Jan 01, 2024, 06:38:03 PMThis should be a case of "one and done", as it's so bad. But like his aborted zombie-verse, I guess the sequel will be the end of it. Apart from the opening sequence of Dawn, he's never made anything decent.

Maybe not, streaming numbers are reportedly huge. In the end that is all that matters.

https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1764621878709088615

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1764758962514125299

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 04, 2024, 04:33:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1764621878709088615

I'm just holding off for the director's cuts in general (haven't bothered with the first release of the first half 'cause I know it was stripped down for the sake of it by Netflix), so getting both of those on the same day would be nice.

Part 1 was slow and dull as it is currently. Can't fathom it being slower and duller.

I'm looking forward to the extended cut as the `theatrical' version had some wild jumps.

https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1767219109542998059

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1769391996081226231

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Do the villains have their own in-universe dramatic orchestra? something like the snobby hipster take on this ;D


:o also I swear a ship of the good guys made a sound similar to this on the farm world...


Oh and the farm planet reminds me of Dantooine but without the Jedi enclave or flying manta rays😅

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It's not good, except a few nice moments/shots...but for me, it's another guilty pleasure movie so I'm happy. The extended cuts of both movies will be a fine watch for my next long ironing session. Snyder could team up with Villeneuve for a Warhammer 40K movie, IF he is guided.

Thinking about it though, the best part is Hopkin's voice.

Meh

I don't hate these movies. However, I think that between spending money on this and, well, I don't know🤔, let's say something like a third season of Mindhunter...there is no way to get lost lol So yeah, bad there Netflix😅👎

Quote from: EW"The video game's in the works still, they're plugging away," the director tells Entertainment Weekly. "And then the making-of books, of course, are coming. There are two, one's out already and the second one should be out soon."

The ending of The Scargiver also sets up a clear outline for a future Rebel Moon movie. Following the successful defense of Veldt, the characters are now eager to search for the missing Princess Issa, who the final minutes reveal to still be alive despite the fact that Sofia Boutella's Kora apparently killed her. The robot Jimmy (voiced by Anthony Hopkins, performed by Destin Creithammer and Trevor Logan) is definitely eager to find Issa, since his whole purpose in life was protecting the royal family.

"That was four years ago that Kora supposedly killed Issa, so the idea is that she would be 17 now, floating around somewhere out there in hiding," Snyder explains. "She's basically their Joan of Arc, and they've got to find her. For Jimmy especially, the idea that she might be out there really solidifies his mythological worth and turns him into a thing of meaning."

https://twitter.com/EW/status/1782410564922200176