Quote from: tyrannosaurusjones on Oct 09, 2015, 09:09:13 PM
Not jumping down your throat on this one, but when I said "kinda" it was a generalized comment. There's a reason "ALIENS" was more successful as a toyline than ALIEN and even had a proposed animated series -- you remember more lines from ALIENS because it's written that way -- regardless of Vietnam analogy. The overall tone of the film -- overall being the key word -- is very much a hoo-ra thing, even if the characters weren't overtly so.
As I said, for me, this is ALIENS via ALIEN, though I guess more accurately as someone here put it COLONIAL MARINES via ALIEN. Not that that has anything to do with the story, obviously. Hopefully you'll all remember to pre-order at your comic shops so we can keep this running as long as we can because, man, Brian's got some amazing stuff up his sleeve!
Good to see you using the forum, Sir.
I'd still take issue with the above perspective of the second film, though. To each his own and all that, but as I say, it's only really Hudson who acts in that way. Even the rest of the Sulaco crew seem to get annoyed with his attitude. They're confident of their abilities, sure, but that's because they've clearly earned it: Vasquez and co roll their eyes at Gorman not having the same combat experience as the rest of them. Apone, especially, gets pissed off with Hudson being a loud-mouth and disciplines him a few times.
Once they realise what they're up against (which is relatively early on in the audience's time with them), they shift to a much more realist view of their situation.
It's more the comics and games (especially a certain title made by Gearbox) which amplified the superficial stuff up to max. The original film doesn't really do that (though I'd readily agree, Hudson's dropship monologue is forever cringe-worthy
).
I'd argue it's more '
Alien Resurrection' which devolves down the road of unbelievable machismo, if any of them did.
Regardless! I do like the tone which has been described and certainly aim to purchase it, based on that. I do especially like that you guys aren't going down the conspiracy route and are portraying Weyland-Yutani as not properly knowing about what the organism actually is! They've been depicted as too moustache-twirly in recent years.
