Weaver also officially confirmed to star in new Alien film.
Quote from: Entertainment TonightAfter teasing his ideal Alien sequel on Instagram earlier this year, director Neill Blomkamp was finally given the opportunity to direct a brand new installment in the Alien franchise, and it looks like Sigourney Weaver has signed on to reprise her iconic role.
Weaver and Blomkamp, who both walked the red carpet at the New York premiere of their upcoming sci-fi collaboration Chappie, stopped to talk to ET's Jason Dundas, and they both teased the long-awaited project.
When asked about whether or not she was coming back to reprise her role as alien-fighting badass Ellen Ripley, Weaver said she would be retuning.
"There are two factors [Neill Blomkamp] needs: Ripley and the Aliens," Weaver said.
Blomkamp, who directed Chappie and is best known for helming the Oscar-nominated sci-fi epic District 9, confirmed her participation as well.
"She'll be in the cast," Blomkamp said. "She is the Alien franchise, to me, so yeah."
Blomkamp also confirmed that he will begin pre-production on his Alien sequel as early as next week.
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Wow, he's really jumping into this. :)
Which means the cameras could already start rolling in another 3-4 months.
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i actually hope it rocks the joint. just dont see how thats possible.
sorry
statistically speaking anyway.
good news though
"She'll be in the cast" is interesting way to phrase it. Not "She's the lead" or something like that? Maybe her role will be smaller than we thought?
Quote from: Russ on Mar 05, 2015, 11:34:09 AM
"She'll be in the cast" is interesting way to phrase it. Not "She's the lead" or something like that? Maybe her role will be smaller than we thought?
Well, I'm willing to bet this will end up being a set-up to rejuvenate the Alien franchise, while also concluding Ripley's story. My guess is that they'll either position an adult Newt as the future protagonist of the series or introduce someone new for Ripley to pass the baton onto.
That said, I think it's safe to assume that Sigourney will be the main lead of this particular film.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 05, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
Which means the cameras could already start rolling in another 3-4 months.
Very true. I'm not sure how I feel about that though... I hope they spend enough time preparing the script and getting that down right first.
I hope they give them a decent amount of time for pre-production. Too many movies these days are cut down to three months and as a result suffer from underwritten scripts and unprepared productions. It's also the reason so many movies are CGI heavy these days; they aren't given time to make the practical effects.
While we're at it, we should all email/twitter Neill Blomkamp and ask him to hire Legacy Effects or Amalgamated Dynamics to design practical Aliens for the project. If we want them to work on the project they've got to start pretty much right now.
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Quote from: Russ on Mar 05, 2015, 11:34:09 AM
"She'll be in the cast" is interesting way to phrase it. Not "She's the lead" or something like that? Maybe her role will be smaller than we thought?
Well, I'm willing to bet this will end up being a set-up to rejuvenate the Alien franchise, while also concluding Ripley's story. My guess is that they'll either position an adult Newt as the future protagonist of the series or introduce someone new for Ripley to pass the baton onto.
That said, I think it's safe to assume that Sigourney will be the main lead of this particular film.
I expect the same. I think they'll kill Ripley off again and pass the torch. I hope, anyway. I don't want to see them annihilate the Aliens. I really want them to keep the options open for further media.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 05, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
Very true. I'm not sure how I feel about that though... I hope they spend enough time preparing the script and getting that down right first.
I think we need to bear in mind that Neill has been thinking about this for sometime anyway. He must have a lot of stuff prepared to make pre-production easier for him.
Quote from: LittleJimmy on Mar 05, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
While we're at it, we should all email/twitter Neill Blomkamp and ask him to hire Legacy Effects or Amalgamated Dynamics to design practical Aliens for the project. If we want them to work on the project they've got to start pretty much right now.
I expect him to use WETA. He's done all 3 of his films with them IRRC?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2015, 12:03:49 PM
I expect the same. I think they'll kill Ripley off again and pass the torch. I hope, anyway. I don't want to see them annihilate the Aliens. I really want them to keep the options open for further media.
Maybe Hicks and Newt will wake up only to find Ripley has been killed off camera.
Kidding.
No, you and Timmy are right, I'm reading too much into it, I'm just so excited by this film, it's the most hyped I've been since I saw the first trailer for Man of Steel - I'm buzzing right now.
Jesus, he's not wasting any time! The news has been relentless. I honestly think taking an established franchise will be good for him, creativity wise. As good as Chappie might be (I'm unsure about Die Antwoord) he needs a change of scenery. Seriously, all his films thus far could all easily take place in the same universe (ignoring the fact that Copley voices Chappie, however).
Oh yeah and Copley is Kruger too lol I think I recall Blomkamp saying Copley won't be in Alien 5 though?
Quote from: LittleJimmy on Mar 05, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
I hope they give them a decent amount of time for pre-production. Too many movies these days are cut down to three months and as a result suffer from underwritten scripts and unprepared productions. It's also the reason so many movies are CGI heavy these days; they aren't given time to make the practical effects.
Depends on the budget. Time is money as they say.
But yeah, I agree the more time spent on pre-prod the better. Blade Runner was in pre-prod for 9 months and just look at it!
how long was prometheus in pre production ?
it felt rushed.
Long enough for some genius (Tom Rothman) to strongly suggest (insist) that they remove the xenomorphs from the alien movie.
It was Lindalof, not Rothman...?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2015, 12:03:49 PM
I expect the same. I think they'll kill Ripley off again and pass the torch. I hope, anyway. I don't want to see them annihilate the Aliens. I really want them to keep the options open for further media.
Definitely. There's something oddly fitting about Ripley dying as an ultimate conclusion to her story that I really like. It took me awhile to get used to what sort of story Alien 3 was and how it kicked off, but I personally have never had an issue with the ending. It makes a lot of sense.
Hell, the concept art of Ripley wearing that bomb vest could easily be an indicator that she'll end up having an encounter with a Facehugger at some point in the film and then decides to strap a bomb onto herself so she can keep going with the mission as long as possible until the chestburster comes along so she can take it out with her. That could be a pretty badass and emotional ending for her character, if executed properly.
The big question for me is whether or not they're aiming to have Newt take over from here or introduce someone else instead? If the latter, what sort of character would they be?
QuoteI think we need to bear in mind that Neill has been thinking about this for sometime anyway. He must have a lot of stuff prepared to make pre-production easier for him.
I don't doubt that. However there's still a pretty notable difference between having a fleshed-out and detailed story treatment and a proper script. Blomkamp has already admitted recently that he focused too much on the visuals and basic concept of Elysium when he made that film, rather than focusing on the script and story, and a lot of the early reviews for Chappie are indicating that he might have done so again. I
know he's more than capable of making a kickass Alien film and I have a good feeling that his story concept is terrific, but he needs to make sure that his script matches the quality of everything else involved.
Quote from: meshuggah on Mar 05, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
Jesus, he's not wasting any time! The news has been relentless. I honestly think taking an established franchise will be good for him, creativity wise. As good as Chappie might be (I'm unsure about Die Antwoord) he needs a change of scenery. Seriously, all his films thus far could all easily take place in the same universe (ignoring the fact that Copley voices Chappie, however).
Oh yeah and Copley is Kruger too lol I think I recall Blomkamp saying Copley won't be in Alien 5 though?
I haven't heard anything about whether or not Copley will be in the film. I'd personally love to see him in it. Die Antwoord though... not so much. I definitely agree that Blomkamp needs a change of scenery. In fact, I'm hoping that he'll try his hand at a genre other than sci-fi after he finishes making this Alien film. It's good to mix things up a bit and can help stretch one's creative muscles.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 05, 2015, 12:41:10 PM
Long enough for some genius (Tom Rothman) to strongly suggest (insist) that they remove the xenomorphs from the alien movie.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2015, 12:46:17 PM
It was Lindalof, not Rothman...?
I'm far more inclined to believe that it was Lindelof who suggested removing the xenomorphs. For all of Rothman's missteps, I don't think he'd be inclined to want to suggest removing the titular aliens from an incredibly hyped up Alien prequel film.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 05, 2015, 12:41:10 PM
Long enough for some genius (Tom Rothman) to strongly suggest (insist) that they remove the xenomorphs from the alien movie.
>Remove Aliens
>Keep some of the facility concepts from the published art
>Add this guy and all of his creepy little friends:
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Jon Spaights said in the dvd commentary that the idea to remove the xenomorphs came from "very high up" in Fox.
I've read elsewhere that it's suspected to be Rothman and judging by his past record of being creatively intrusive it would not surprise me.
I.E. see his unlogical hatred of having robots in movies (no sentinels in X Men, no Transformers at Fox), getting the director of the first Wolverine movie to repaint a set a different colour for god knows what reason!
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 05, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
Jon Spaights said in the dvd commentary that the idea to remove the xenomorphs came from "very high up" in Fox.
I've read elsewhere that it's suspected to be Rothman and judging by his past record of being creatively intrusive it would not surprise me.
I.E. see his unlogical hatred of having robots in movies (no sentinels in X Men, no Transformers at Fox), getting the director of the first Wolverine movie to repaint a set a different colour for god knows what reason!
Huh. That's news to me, though I admittedly haven't done much digging around after Prometheus came out. Either way, I doubt Lindelof helped matters much...
A "Yes Man" such as Lindelof never helps matters.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 05, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
Jon Spaights said in the dvd commentary that the idea to remove the xenomorphs came from "very high up" in Fox.
I've read elsewhere that it's suspected to be Rothman and judging by his past record of being creatively intrusive it would not surprise me.
I.E. see his unlogical hatred of having robots in movies (no sentinels in X Men, no Transformers at Fox), getting the director of the first Wolverine movie to repaint a set a different colour for god knows what reason!
Good thing then that Rothman is no longer at Fox.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 05, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
Jon Spaights said in the dvd commentary that the idea to remove the xenomorphs came from "very high up" in Fox.
I've read elsewhere that it's suspected to be Rothman and judging by his past record of being creatively intrusive it would not surprise me.
I.E. see his unlogical hatred of having robots in movies (no sentinels in X Men, no Transformers at Fox), getting the director of the first Wolverine movie to repaint a set a different colour for god knows what reason!
i have been saying for the longest time that lindelofs inclusion was not ridleys idea.
though at the end of the day lindelof's script was better.
spaight script would have completely killed the franchise if it was filmed.
Here we go!
With Chappie getting mixed reviews, the only thing I expect next week is Fox announcing that they're "putting Blomkamp's Alien project on hold," or that they're "looking for a new developer." I don't mean to sound like a downer, but until we have crew on set, I can't 100% believe that the film will actually happen.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Mar 05, 2015, 06:01:19 PM
With Chappie getting mixed reviews, the only thing I expect next week is Fox announcing that they're "putting Blomkamp's Alien project on hold," or that they're "looking for a new developer." I don't mean to sound like a downer, but until we have crew on set, I can't 100% believe that the film will actually happen.
I hate to say it, but Ultramorph may be right. That would be really pants, though.
It's the box office results that's important in this business, not the reviews. How do you think Michael Bay still finds work? :)
But as I said elsewhere, I suspect the deal is already done and dusted - Chappie's BO probably won't factor anymore considering that a different studio is involved. Blomkamp has been very busy with Chappie's promotional tour these past few weeks, he'll likely have plenty of free time from next-week on.
I almost have to wonder if they let all this Alien 5 stuff drop when it did because they knew Chappie wasn't going to be well received. Like Blomkamp was already trying to change the subject before Chappie even hit theaters.
Quote from: Entertainment TonightAfter teasing his ideal Alien sequel on Instagram earlier this year, director Neill Blomkamp was finally given the opportunity to direct a brand new installment in the Alien franchise, and it looks like Sigourney Weaver has signed on to reprise her iconic role.
Weaver and Blomkamp, who both walked the red carpet at the New York premiere of their upcoming sci-fi collaboration Chappie, stopped to talk to ET's Jason Dundas, and they both teased the long-awaited project.
When asked about whether or not she was coming back to reprise her role as alien-fighting badass Ellen Ripley, Weaver said she would be retuning.
"There are two factors [Neill Blomkamp] needs: Ripley and the Aliens," Weaver said.
Blomkamp, who directed Chappie and is best known for helming the Oscar-nominated sci-fi epic District 9, confirmed her participation as well.
"She'll be in the cast," Blomkamp said. "She is the Alien franchise, to me, so yeah."
Blomkamp also confirmed that he will begin pre-production on his Alien sequel as early as next week.
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Quote from: Ultramorph on Mar 05, 2015, 06:38:15 PM
I almost have to wonder if they let all this Alien 5 stuff drop when it did because they knew Chappie wasn't going to be well received. Like Blomkamp was already trying to change the subject before Chappie even hit theaters.
Might be a kind of insurance policy for Blomkamp.
So I guess we might Alien 5 sooner then latter. I guess 2017 may be likely and hard to believe it will be 20 years since A:R came out. I saw A:R when I was 6 back in 1997 and will be 26 when Alien 5 comes out.
"There are two factors [Neill Blomkamp] needs: Ripley and the Aliens," Weaver said
This right here is what bugs me. The whole idea that the Alien franchise HAS to have Ripley, its a crock.
Though i wouldnt be upset to see ron peralman, something tells me it wouldnt be too far out there.
Prometheus: The film didn't feel rushed at all. What was wrong with Prometheus is that you had a writer who re-wrote the film and treated the audience like they were stupid. The ridiculous foreshadowing, the huge gaps in logic, the inane characters, very little made sense. Ridley Scott signed off on it. The very idea that he agreed to make the film with a script that weak, speaks more to his competency as a director then Lindelof's ability as a writer.
I'm anxious to see Chappie. Im expecting a good time. I'm sure it will do decent money.
I don't know what to expect with Blomkamp's Alien film. I'm not going to spoil myself that's for sure. Paramount is chemistry between Weaver and Biehn. If they don't geta the chemistry right, the film could end up playing as awkward as Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
I have great faith, but I'm also very cautious. At this point, I don't even care about a Prometheus sequel. It's all about Ripley as far as I'm concerned. The heart of the Alien saga is about normal people in an abnormal situation. The aliens are just the circus side show. The real bad guy is the company. It always has been.
Entering production so soon? They're REALLY pushing for this!!
We have a season director with a passion and a strong, clear vision of what he wants backed by an enthusiastic company. As of now, I'm not too worried.
If the movie comes out in 2017 then they better find a good release date soon. So far May - July and November seem to be pretty pack. Fox already has The Wolverine 2 coming out in March 2017, I don't think Fox wants to move their bigger money maker to a different release month. November has Thor 3, Justice League and a new Grinch movie coming that month. Maybe 2018 will be better for Alien 5?
I thought it was a given that she was going to be in the film. That's really been the boost that's caused it to be taken on as a project.
I'd imagine that they want to shoot for a late 2017 - mid 2018 release, because they hype will be going strong still. 2019 would be a bit too long.
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Some artwork in reality form.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 05, 2015, 07:51:45 PM
Entering production so soon? They're REALLY pushing for this!!
He already spent time writing or conceptualising it. Months if not a year of work on the side. Cameron did the same with Aliens, writing it during The Terminator's post-production. This will be the official writing/designing phase, not actual production. That'll probably in the summer.
Blomkamp doesn't seem like the right choice to me at all...And the more I listen about his ideas for this film the more I dislike...I'm getting ready to just choose to ignore his movie altogether versus the awesome Alien 3 Assembly Cut.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Mar 05, 2015, 06:38:15 PM
I almost have to wonder if they let all this Alien 5 stuff drop when it did because they knew Chappie wasn't going to be well received. Like Blomkamp was already trying to change the subject before Chappie even hit theaters.
That was my take from the beginning. Blomkamp went onto Instagram to look for a job.
FOX needs something to go up against Star Wars now that it belongs to Disney. The Alien franchise is their answer.
I dont trust Blomkamp. Dont know why but i just dont
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 05, 2015, 07:20:05 PM
Prometheus: The film didn't feel rushed at all. What was wrong with Prometheus is that you had a writer who re-wrote the film and treated the audience like they were stupid. The ridiculous foreshadowing, the huge gaps in logic, the inane characters, very little made sense. Ridley Scott signed off on it. The very idea that he agreed to make the film with a script that weak, speaks more to his competency as a director then Lindelof's ability as a writer.
Ridley's movies have always only been as good as his screenplays. He obviously isn't a very good judge of writing. He gets things to a point of being shootable and bangs out the movie. The plots are usually very straight forward and the characters two dimensional but that will do him if he can put in a shiny set piece or two.
It's funny because a friend and I were discussing older directors that just shit out their movies and ocsassionally make a good one. We were talking about Woody Allen, Clint Eastwood and Ridley. But the big difference with Ridley is that he makes films that require an insane amount of work compared to his peers.
I realize it sucks that I cannot cite the source, but an article I read last week, reported that Blomkamp had already written what would at least amount to a draft of the script or an entire treatment during Post on Chappie. So, my take is it will just require a polish. He certainly had enough to explain the entire 'end of ripley's tale' to Siggy Weavzer.
Nazrel, I know exactly how you feel.
and the final franchise from my childhood goes into the money printer......
Quote from: swarm87 on Mar 06, 2015, 02:56:32 AM
and the final franchise from my childhood goes into the money printer......
That happened long ago with Resurrection. Even the producers said that it would "destroy the franchise", but they greenlit it anyway. Why? Because MONEY! Let's not act like Alien is JUST selling out. It sold out a long time ago.
I'm just hoping I get a good film out of it, because there hasn't been one since 1992 it can be argued.
I think it happened with Alien 3. Alien and Aliens were modestly budgeted. Alien 3 is when the series was looked upon as a "tentpole" franchise. They needed to make money with that film. They rushed a release date without having completed their pre production cycle.
Quote from: Nazrel on Mar 05, 2015, 07:13:37 PM
"There are two factors [Neill Blomkamp] needs: Ripley and the Aliens," Weaver said
This right here is what bugs me. The whole idea that the Alien franchise HAS to have Ripley, its a crock.
Though i wouldnt be upset to see ron peralman, something tells me it wouldnt be too far out there.
Just responded to Hicks in another thread on this thing: I'm sure that this film will be the end of one saga (Rippers and Hicks) and the jumping off point for a new one.
I get that cinematically, for this movie, Rippers has to be in it,
Spoiler
but I just started reading the "Sea of Sorrows" novel and it was going great right up until the psychic guy is revealed to be a descendant of Ripley's! I'm a big, big, big supporter of bring her back, retcon with the hypersleep dream and all that, but I really was surprised to see her shoehorned into "Out of the Shadows" and then into "Sea of Sorrows". I mean - why? OOTS could have worked without the whole Ripley thing; I don't know how much the plot of "River of Pain" hinges on the descendant thing, but really - out side of the movies should be a place to explore other aspects
Quote from: swarm87 on Mar 06, 2015, 02:56:32 AM
and the final franchise from my childhood goes into the money printer......
Money overtook creative concerns in this series about 25 years ago...
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 06, 2015, 03:59:05 AM
I think it happened with Alien 3. Alien and Aliens were modestly budgeted. Alien 3 is when the series was looked upon as a "tentpole" franchise. They needed to make money with that film. They rushed a release date without having completed their pre production cycle.
If Alien 3 was simply to be a money-maker, they would have made an Aliens clone, not gotten into wooden planets, monks, prisoners, a bald Ripley and only one alien.
Since the unexpected possibility of 'real' Ripley returning onscreen, it's been interesting to read all the different points of view in the recent articles around here.
Some seem to want a continuation of where Ripley clone 8 left off in the open-ended Alien Resurrection...while others want Alien 3 & Alien Res dismissed altogether. And some of those that want Alien 3 & Alien Res dismissed, want them referenced in some way, even if only as 'bad dreams'...while others want them totally ignored altogether. So some of us are going to be a bit miffed it seems, depending on the the outcome.
On top of that, if the characters end up alive and well in this new movie, it seems that some of us would look on this scenario as being set in some kind of 'alternate' universe/timeline along the lines of the latest Star Trek movie reboots. Anyway, call it what you will - reboot, re-imagining, 'alternative' scenario, or 'fan fiction' - one thing's for sure...I never would have guessed in a million years that we end up getting an Alien 5 movie with Weaver playing the ACTUAL Ripley once more after all these years!!
And personally, as someone who prefers to look on the Alien 3 & Alien Res sequels to Aliens as being nothing more than a couple of disturbing 'cryo-sleep nightmares'...the possibility of an 'alternate' onscreen outcome for Ripley, Hicks, and Newt is more than I could have ever hoped for in this franchise.
While there's certainly some watchable moments in Alien 3, it's depressingly downbeat storyline set amongst a cast of mainly unlikeable characters was NOT the way I hoped this franchise would continue after Aliens. It's relentlessly nihilistic tone in drab surroundings was certainly an unexpected and wrong-footing turn of events, I'll give it that...but I'd have much rather spent some more time with Hicks & Newt again - especially as the expectations for this sequel were sky-high at the time, after the previous successes of Alien & Aliens. And of course, the events of Alien 3 unfortunately led to the ridiculous storyline that was concocted for Alien Resurrection...which presented us all with the absolute low-point of the franchise...the 'Newborn'... *shudder*
So yeah, I welcome this 'alternative' sequel to Aliens if it indeed comes about...especially if we get Hick's back for a while too, as Blomkamp's concept art promises. (I sure hope he'll wear an 'eye-patch' though, as that dead eyeball just looks gross in the artwork!)
In the meantime, I'll continue to think of the Aliens sequels as being merely 'bad dreams'...and the 4 main 'continuity anomalies' of Alien 3's intro. scenes make it very easy for me to do so -
1. The fact that there's a mysterious appearance of an egg which is attached to the ceiling (!) of a section of the Sulaco's interior...despite the fact that the Queen had her egg-sac completely ripped off in Aliens. (yes, there's one or two theories, but none that satisfy me)
2. The fact that the lettering on the Sulaco is now WHITE instead of BLACK. (yes, we only got to see the other side of the Sulaco in Aliens, but I prefer to believe that the lettering was black on BOTH sides of the ship)
3. The fact that it's NOT actually Newt in the cryo-tube (it's a different actress altogether - no big deal, but it suits my purpose!)
4. The fact that the cryo-tubes are a totally DIFFERENT design to the ones that Ripley & co. entered at the end of Aliens.
And here's a good article which covers these and a couple of others in depth - http://www.weyland-yutani-archives.com/archive/1094 (http://www.weyland-yutani-archives.com/archive/1094)
But of course, anyone who doesn't like Blomkamp's take on things can equally look on it as being the 'fan fiction' scenario instead, and stick with the original storyline. Just take your pick.
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Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 06, 2015, 03:59:05 AM
I think it happened with Alien 3. Alien and Aliens were modestly budgeted. Alien 3 is when the series was looked upon as a "tentpole" franchise. They needed to make money with that film. They rushed a release date without having completed their pre production cycle.
If Alien 3 was simply to be a money-maker, they would have made an Aliens clone, not gotten into wooden planets, monks, prisoners, a bald Ripley and only one alien.
The reason we idn't get the wooden world was because Fox realised they needed Alien 3 (their moneymaker James Bond was in a lot of legal trouble at the time) and they got cold feet about it being "weird". Fincher kept trying to make someting unique but they scuttled everything they could. Fincher used a "tea cup" to "beer mug" analogy to describe it. Alien 3 isn't remotely leftfield because Fox wanted it to be; they got brave and hired Ward and then f**ked up by trying to reign it all in and ruined the film as a result. David Fincher's real Alien 3 would have been wonderful, but they didn't even allow the conditions for him to sit down and work out the frankenstein script they thrust on his plate..
It's interesting, Fincher was initially hired and didn't know of the Ward script (I'm assuming), I read he thought (along the lines of) "Oh man, a sequel to Aliens, I can't wait for pulse rifles etc. etc." and overall he was chained to Giler and Hill's recycling of aspects said Ward script. So, I'm assuming he was hired and initially wanted to go the action route. But he interpreted the script, and wanted to pull it off in a way he thought would work, but even then the Studio just went out with "Nah, here's how we'd imagine it". I'd imagine some writers we're not hearing (I'm not implying anyone associated with the Alien franchise, I'm thinking along the lines of consistent Fox writers and Giler and Hill) were about were consulted about how they could play it as safe as possible with what they were given. And Fincher probably didn't want to play it safe.
Add to the constant rewrites and shooting without a script, Fox totally jumped the gun with Ward (hell of a script, would have loved to seen it)
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 07, 2015, 03:00:32 AM
Quote from: Born Of Cold Light on Mar 06, 2015, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 06, 2015, 03:59:05 AM
I think it happened with Alien 3. Alien and Aliens were modestly budgeted. Alien 3 is when the series was looked upon as a "tentpole" franchise. They needed to make money with that film. They rushed a release date without having completed their pre production cycle.
If Alien 3 was simply to be a money-maker, they would have made an Aliens clone, not gotten into wooden planets, monks, prisoners, a bald Ripley and only one alien.
The reason we idn't get the wooden world was because Fox realised they needed Alien 3 (their moneymaker James Bond was in a lot of legal trouble at the time) and they got cold feet about it being "weird". Fincher kept trying to make someting unique but they scuttled everything they could. Fincher used a "tea cup" to "beer mug" analogy to describe it. Alien 3 isn't remotely leftfield because Fox wanted it to be; they got brave and hired Ward and then f**ked up by trying to reign it all in and ruined the film as a result. David Fincher's real Alien 3 would have been wonderful, but they didn't even allow the conditions for him to sit down and work out the frankenstein script they thrust on his plate..
You're right that Fox butchered alot of Finch's ideas but still, it was not a typical Alien film in the least. Remember this is the time when the Alien franchise was close to the height of its popularity with toys, video games, comics and everything in between. Xenomorph ripoffs were popping up left and right and Giger art or Giger-inspired art was quite popular. It would have been a relatively simple matter to add some guns and more aliens to the movie and make it a more action-oriented film. Maybe they could have been like the video games, with Ripley (and maybe a handful of surviving prisoners) navigating the labyrinthine of the Fury facility, rescuing others and fighting aliens. Given the fact that some of those guys are the last type of people you want to have firearms, this could have made an interesting dynamic. Honestly, come to think of it, this could have made a better film and one that was more in line with the rest of the Alien franchise at the time. But instead, Fox made something far different that bucked the trends at the time. That has to count for something.
Blomkamp's proposal for Alien 5 (I wonder what it's final title will be?) looks like it will throw up a variety of choices for the fans between it and the original Alien 3 & Alien Resurrection storylines. For instance -
1. You can choose to happily accept BOTH outcomes regardless, and just alternate between which one you decide to watch, depending on your mood at the time.
2. You can choose to look on one outcome as being your favourite, and just look on the other as occurring in some kind of bizarre 'alternate' universe/timeline.
(Some may wish to include Prometheus and/or the AvP movies in this 'alternate' universe/timeline too, by the way!
3. You can choose to dismiss one outcome as merely being some kind of disturbing 'cryo-nightmare(s)' Ripley went on to have after Aliens concluded, which didn't actually happen.
(...and EVEN if Blomkamp's version ends up referencing the original movies as being Ripley's feverish 'cryo-nightmare(s)', you can still choose to dismiss his outcome as the one which is Ripley's ACTUAL 'cryo-nightmare' if you wish! - you decide)
4. In fact, you can choose to totally ignore EVERY outcome altogether if you wish, and think of them as ALL being 'cryo-nightmares'...or simply mere 'fan fiction which shouldn't even be considered worthy of being associated with the greatness of Alien & Aliens.
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I outlined some of the reasons which make it easy for me to imagine Alien 3 & Alien Resurrection as just being feverish 'cryo-nightmares' a few posts back....as I look on the producer's 'special edition' (Assembly Cut) of Alien 3 as a very mixed bag too, compared to some others around here.
For instance, I think the Theatrical version's 'Dog-burster' (a Rottweiler) imagery is superior to the 'Ox-burster' version...and is a far better fit for the final grown-up creature seen in the movie.
Despite this, I would have been interested to see how Fincher's proper 'special edition' version would have turned out, if he'd done it himself...and wonder if we would have seen a lot more of the deleted shots of his fully-formed creature incorporated. Ah well, it was not to be. However, for those of you who may be unaware of some of the still-deleted material from Fincher's entry, here's a link to a very good description of it, along with some pics and clips -
And as for the hugely frustrating Prometheus movie...I will only include it into my own personal Alien canon once I get around to fan editing a version for myself which excludes the shots of the 'Engineer' getting into the 'pilot's chair'...so that I can imagine some OTHER 'spacejockey' being piloted the ship seen in Alien after all! ;D
Apologies, I accidentally posted my previous comments before I was finished, so here's that link to the Alien 3 deleted material that was missing - http://www.weyland-yutani-archives.com/archive/1121 (http://www.weyland-yutani-archives.com/archive/1121)
As far as Prometheus is concerned, I was also about to say that in the meantime I can only watch Agent 9's excellent 'Prometheus Special Edition' fan edit with any satisfaction...seeing as it includes a lot of the great deleted moments, along with the younger 'Weyald' scene as it's intro. (google/youtube his fine trailer for that, and seek it out if you're interested)
I just hope that Prometheus 2 will give us far less loose-ends than the Theatrical cut did.
Uhhhhh...
The Derelict on LV-426 and the crashed Juggernaut on LV-223 are two different ships y'know?
Plus there's enough differences between them that you can reasonably see the Engineers and the SJ two different things.
(Without a null fan cut.)
Originally they was supposed to be the same ship, same pilot too and would been a direct prequel to Alien, but Fox decided it was time to interfere again to meet their "executive meddling" quota.
Which is probably for the best considering how many people dislike the design of the Engineers.
(I love them myself but hey, can't please everyone.)
Even I personally don't like to think of the Engineers and the SJ as the same thing, there's just too many differences between them for someone like me- I like to think that considering they are "human" the Engineers see the SJ the same way we do and decided to imitate him.
(This would account for all of the differences between them right down to the bio weapons each used.)
While I like to see them as the same thing, I can't really ignore how different they are, and while I would say size difference doesn't always mean different species, I believe the size difference is quite noticably between the SJ pilot and the Engineer. The engineer is like 9ft while the SJ was a giant.
Xenomrph had that theory too that maybe the SJ created the Engineers and then the latter sought to do the same.
Maybe this is where Shaw's line "And who made them?"-will lead perhaps?
Well if SJ did create Engineers, then so far they have succeeded in nearly emulating them completely, I noticed that their tech doesn't seem to be as bio-mechanic as SJ version though, I will need to double check that, I can't remember the last time I saw Prometheus.
It is as mechanical, but all the biological features have been removed.
Yeah that is what I mean, it lacked the giger touch, I wonder if the differences were intentional, I mean one thing you can say about Prometheus is that it caused more questions to be asked than any answers given (if there were any)
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 07, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Yeah that is what I mean, it lacked the giger touch, I wonder if the differences were intentional, I mean one thing you can say about Prometheus is that it caused more questions to be asked than any answers given (if there were any)
There was an interview with someone involved who mentioned it was a deliberate choice of Ridley Scott's to remove the 'bio' element from biomechanical. I don't quite remember who.
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Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 07, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Yeah that is what I mean, it lacked the giger touch, I wonder if the differences were intentional, I mean one thing you can say about Prometheus is that it caused more questions to be asked than any answers given (if there were any)
There was an interview with someone involved who mentioned it was a deliberate choice of Ridley Scott's to remove the 'bio' element from biomechanical. I don't quite remember who.
Yes, and a lot of artists on the production team had to fight for or sneak in Giger-esque details.
There's a story behind why this all happened but it's probably irresponsible to talk about it.
Here's a little convoluted notion of mine which I prefer to believe, until Prometheus 2 possibly contradicts it. ;D
- The ghostly images of the Prometheus 'Engineers' that are seen desperately running through the complex due to some 'incident' or other...are showing 'Engineers' who tried to get away from a large (unseen) vaguely-humanoid creature which was created by either a 'goo'-related accident or a 'goo'-related weapons experiment...
...this 'incident' revealed by the 'holo' recording was something that occurred a very, very long time in the past...and it's THAT large creature which then ended up stealing/'piloting' one of the various 'Juggernaut' ships available at the time...
...inside that particular ship were stored many egg-shaped 'bio-weapons' which were originally laid by another type of creature that those long-dead 'Engineers' had some kind of dealings with at the time...and the large creature was attacked and impregnated by a face-hugger from one of those eggs it disturbed when it initially entered the ship...
...however, the creature survived long enough to successfully fly the ship away from LV-223 (where Prometheus is set), but ended up crash-landing on LV-426 (where Alien is set)...due to the chestbuster stage eventually doing it's work...
...and as it crashed, an automatic 'warning system' automatically kicked in from the ship at that point, to indicate that this was effectively now an 'off-limits' area due to the dangerous cargo that had been stored aboard it...
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(On the other hand...if you happen to like the whole 'Engineer' as 'spacejockey' (from Alien) scenario regardless, then instead of a separate, unseen creature, I suppose you could choose to imagine that it was actually one of those long-dead, scared 'Engineers' in the 'holo' recordings who managed to get to a 'Juggernaut' at the time...but then crashed it on LV-426 thanks to being face-hugged)
On the other hand...maybe the 'Engineers' have actually styled their 'snorkel'-like helmets (as well as the one seen on the 'Juggernaut' chair in Prometheus) on something they 'revere'...something that's bigger than them in the scheme of things?...
...something which we saw the long-dead remains of, inside a much older version of the 'Juggernaut' seen in Alien?...
Now, I really must get on with my day. :P
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Yeah that is what I mean, it lacked the giger touch, I wonder if the differences were intentional, I mean one thing you can say about Prometheus is that it caused more questions to be asked than any answers given (if there were any)
There was an interview with someone involved who mentioned it was a deliberate choice of Ridley Scott's to remove the 'bio' element from biomechanical. I don't quite remember who.
Yes, and a lot of artists on the production team had to fight for or sneak in Giger-esque details.
There's a story behind why this all happened but it's probably irresponsible to talk about it.
What story is that?
And I'm loving your ideas "Bring Back Jonesy."
@ Son Of Kane - I've only made a very small handful of posts since I registered here...but if you click on my name and then click on 'Show Posts', you'll see a few more thoughts I previously had on the general direction that that Aliens 3, Alien Res, and Prometheus took. ;)
Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Mar 07, 2015, 08:37:02 PM
@ Son Of Kane - I've only made a very small handful of posts since I registered here...but if you click on my name and then click on 'Show Posts', you'll see a few more thoughts I previously had on the general direction that that Aliens 3, Alien Res, and Prometheus took. ;)
This reminds me of something I was contemplating:
Fifield and Milburn find a pile of Engineer's bodies stacked high that look like they've exploded from the inside, yes?
But if the goo only creates a facehugger-type creature through infected male to female intercourse, then how did all these Engineers become impregnated.
Until otherwise explained, I have a great sexual-gigeresque PROMETHEUS prequel in my head that is basically the Engineers visiting Earth and abducting our women and taking them to LV223 to mate with them, and this is how the events that ruined the engineers on LV223 took place. It also explains the cave-paintings - like the Engineers are beloved on Earth and they select lucky human women and take them aways from their families to 'Paradise' -which is what LV223 looks like 2000 years prior due to the use of their strong terraforming pyramids. The human women are worshipped and these huge rituals take place beore the Engineers take them as a 'wife' or 'bride' and bring them back to LV223 to run horrible xenomorph making mating experiments on them.
Actually with aa little work, this could be the plot of Prometheus 2.
My little thumbnail idea for P2 had a subplot which involved Shaw falling for some sort of human-Engineer hybrid dude on or near their homeworld - maybe one of a group of humans which the last of the old race had cross-bred from in the intervening centuries - and David sabotaging it and sending things to hell again. Oh, what silly soap opera.
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@ Son Of Kane - I've only made a very small handful of posts since I registered here...but if you click on my name and then click on 'Show Posts', you'll see a few more thoughts I previously had on the general direction that that Aliens 3, Alien Res, and Prometheus took. ;)
This reminds me of something I was contemplating:
Fifield and Milburn find a pile of Engineer's bodies stacked high that look like they've exploded from the inside, yes?
But if the goo only creates a facehugger-type creature through infected male to female intercourse, then how did all these Engineers become impregnated.
Until otherwise explained, I have a great sexual-gigeresque PROMETHEUS prequel in my head that is basically the Engineers visiting Earth and abducting our women and taking them to LV223 to mate with them, and this is how the events that ruined the engineers on LV223 took place. It also explains the cave-paintings - like the Engineers are beloved on Earth and they select lucky human women and take them aways from their families to 'Paradise' -which is what LV223 looks like 2000 years prior due to the use of their strong terraforming pyramids. The human women are worshipped and these huge rituals take place beore the Engineers take them as a 'wife' or 'bride' and bring them back to LV223 to run horrible xenomorph making mating experiments on them.
Actually with aa little work, this could be the plot of Prometheus 2.
Maybe because weren't all impregnated.
The creatures are capable of killing as well and the mutations by the accelerant seem to be random, if a Trilobite was created, it would need only to infect one Engineer to create a creature that could kill the others.
Or if you check they have holes all over their bodies- it's likely the same thing that happened to the exploding Engineer head.
Everyone already has all kinds of theories covered. I just would like to add one extra bit.
If you're ignoring Alien 3 and 4 (which I definitely aprove), just ignore them, without any dumb explanation. Just never mention them, simple and cold as that.
The nightmare in stasis theory is "close" to being good. Actually, it's one of the most viable ones.
But the indie filmmaker I have inside me tells it's another Ripley-clone dumb level piece of plot.
It's a cheap story telling mechanism. It's actually really, really cheesy and cheap.
So my vote goes to simply ignoring them.
If you REALLY want to give some sort of oficial explanation, ok, on the Bluray extras, you can add a short scene where Ripley is in stasis, having all kinds of bad dreams.
It must be no more than an extra on the bluray.
But for the main story, never adress that. That dream thing is super cheap, cheesy storytelling.
Been awhile since I have seen Prometheus, but Deacons don't make holes, the rip a chest apart from top to bottom to get out. So holes would have been done by something else, perhaps something as you say, caused that head to explode.
Mortal after all :laugh:
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Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 07, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Yeah that is what I mean, it lacked the giger touch, I wonder if the differences were intentional, I mean one thing you can say about Prometheus is that it caused more questions to be asked than any answers given (if there were any)
There was an interview with someone involved who mentioned it was a deliberate choice of Ridley Scott's to remove the 'bio' element from biomechanical. I don't quite remember who.
Yes, and a lot of artists on the production team had to fight for or sneak in Giger-esque details.
There's a story behind why this all happened but it's probably irresponsible to talk about it.
What story is that?
I am also interested in that story.
It is top secret or something like that? :P
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Quote from: Son Of Kane on Mar 07, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
What story is that?
I am also interested in that story.
It is top secret or something like that? :P
Pretty much, and I couldn't substantiate it completely for you guys, which would lead to more nonsense.
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Quote from: Son Of Kane on Mar 07, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
What story is that?
I am also interested in that story.
It is top secret or something like that? :P
Pretty much, and I couldn't substantiate it completely for you guys, which would lead to more nonsense.
Come on! OUT WITH IT.
No judgement.
but getting back to the pile of engineer bodies, I only see the indication of chestbursters. Again, I think a story about early history earthling men and women being willfully abducted and experimented on, could be something really creepy.
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Quote from: Son Of Kane on Mar 07, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
What story is that?
I am also interested in that story.
It is top secret or something like that? :P
Pretty much, and I couldn't substantiate it completely for you guys, which would lead to more nonsense.
Come on! OUT WITH IT.
Seconded.
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I have to say this is like the most insecure production I have ever heard of. It is always "Probably", "Maybe", "Hopefully", "I think". All words I have read Neil Blomkamp use when addressing the new Alien movie. Still. I want to see this vision realized. I just watch Alien and Aliens back to back..... and goddamn... Aliens was an amazing movie. I had forgotten that. Let's see where he takes the movie. For someone who dismisses 2 films of the franchise, he must be pretty confident on his story. Let's see where it goes.
It's early days yet. ""I think and "maybe" and all of those other vague non-descriptors are just being thrown around because it's way too early to let any actual information out.
True, but saying saying "probably" enters pre-production next week is a bit odd. I would think that if I was to helm a multi-million hollywood film I could say i start "probably" next month, but one week before starting I should know for sure my starting date. But I don't know. I don't know much about the film making process.
Then if you don't know... it's not exactly fair to criticise his language use, is it?
Things like can change on a dime in the film industry.
No, I get his point.
Surely if pre-production is going to start "next week", you'd know if it was definitely on or not.
Unless of course they were waiting to see how Chappie performed, before giving an absolute go ahead.
Things like that tend to drastically change the landscape. :)
From the concept art shown of his ideas...the story looks like xenomorphs being held in captivity in a underground bio dome and studied by Weyland Yutani. I'd say Ripley is sent there with Hicks as part of a team to help supervise things, and it all goes wrong. Almost like a Jurassic Park movie.
Quote from: genocyber on Mar 09, 2015, 01:37:58 PMI'd say Ripley is sent there with Hicks as part of a team to help supervise things, and it all goes wrong.
Ripley would
never agree to take part in the breeding and study of Aliens in any capacity.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 09, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Ripley would never agree to take part in the breeding and study of Aliens in any capacity.
Yeah, nor would WY be foolish enough to send her.
Unless someone on the inside of that facility grew a conscience, realising the danger of the aliens put forward their doubts to their superiors and was ignored and knowing ripley's involvement with the species, contacted her in an effort to put things right, it would be an interesting aspect if the films plot followed this insider instead of ripley as I believe we have exhausted the scope of her character, don't get me wrong it will be good to have her in the movie but it would be refreshing to have a new main character and please no female copy of her shaw from Prometheus and the female soldier from AVP R were enough
Quote from: Murfy426 on Mar 09, 2015, 01:50:39 PM
Unless someone on the inside of that facility grew a conscience,
That is a problem on its own, the evil company angle is just stupid, even more stupid would be only one person being good, human conscience is not rare in any company, no matter its dealings, much more than one person would be ethical its just a matter of courage to speak up.
If they want a fresh take for Alien V, have the company been helpful for a change, more than just neutral.
The bad thing about an evil company is that they must lack common sense :laugh:
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Quote from: Murfy426 on Mar 09, 2015, 01:50:39 PM
Unless someone on the inside of that facility grew a conscience,
That is a problem on its own, the evil company angle is just stupid, even more stupid would be only one person being good, human conscience is not rare in any company, no matter its dealings, much more than one person would be ethical its just a matter of courage to speak up.
If they want a fresh take for Alien V, have the company been helpful for a change, more than just neutral.
The bad thing about an evil company is that they must lack common sense :laugh:
True I think a better term is the angle is outdated for all we know your idea could be right, the company are using the facility to study the aliens in an effort to combat them better, maybe the facility will just be one small part of the movie and not the whole plot, Weaver did say in an interview im sure that Blomkamp had way more artwork that had not been released yet.
Quote from: genocyber on Mar 09, 2015, 01:37:58 PM
From the concept art shown of his ideas...the story looks like xenomorphs being held in captivity in a underground bio dome and studied by Weyland Yutani.
I wouldn't assume that the facility is underground. I know that was one of Blomkamp's problems when designing the Halo ring - all the interesting structures were underneath the surface, and he was more interested in blending it with the landscape.
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Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 09, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Ripley would never agree to take part in the breeding and study of Aliens in any capacity.
Yeah, nor would WY be foolish enough to send her.
Stoner WY Executive 1: Guys, guys, listen. I have this GREAT idea. What if, now just bear with me on this, when we finish setting up our new testing facilities, we invite the only people who have survived contact with these things for a visit, give them weapons and permission to kill anything they see...
Stoner WY Executive 2: Ok.....
Stoner WY Executive 1: We let them see the Queen, the Nest, everything, all on a specially guided tour with ammo drops every two feet.
Stoner WY Executive 2: Ok.....
Stoner WY Executive 1: Then, once they finish the tour, if they haven't suffered a nervous breakdown and tried to kill us all and blow up the facility by then, we get them to sign off on making it a zoo! Complete with hotels, dining, entertainment for the whole family! We can even hire the survivors to do publicity shoots for the big opening! It'll be just like Jurassic Park!
Stoner WY Executive 2:.......Dude......THAT IS ****ING AWESOME! Let's do it!
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Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 09, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Ripley would never agree to take part in the breeding and study of Aliens in any capacity.
Yeah, nor would WY be foolish enough to send her.
Stoner WY Executive 1: Guys, guys, listen. I have this GREAT idea. What if, now just bear with me on this, when we finish setting up our new testing facilities, we invite the only people who have survived contact with these things for a visit, give them weapons and permission to kill anything they see...
Stoner WY Executive 2: Ok.....
Stoner WY Executive 1: We let them see the Queen, the Nest, everything, all on a specially guided tour with ammo drops every two feet.
Stoner WY Executive 2: Ok.....
Stoner WY Executive 1: Then, once they finish the tour, if they haven't suffered a nervous breakdown and tried to kill us all and blow up the facility by then, we get them to sign off on making it a zoo! Complete with hotels, dining, entertainment for the whole family! We can even hire the survivors to do publicity shoots for the big opening! It'll be just like Jurassic Park!
Stoner WY Executive 2:.......Dude......THAT IS ****ING AWESOME! Let's do it!
I don't know about W-Y but you nailed Fox down to T there.
So did it officially started per-production yet?
"What kind of corporation would do something like this??"
haha
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Pre-production started last year, given that concept art is generally the biggest part of pre-production.
That concept art was commissioned before this film was ever actually going to be a thing, however. Blomkamp had it made after throwing ideas back and forth with Weaver on the set of Chappie, and then pitched it to Fox and it got picked up. Who knows how much of that is entirely relevant to the current direction of the film. Assuming it did enter pre-production this week, we would still be a few months minimum away from the start of filming.
Quote from: Gash on Mar 19, 2015, 10:59:30 PM
Pre-production started last year, given that concept art is generally the biggest part of pre-production.
The set-building would be the biggest and most expensive part.
Well, script, concept art, casting, designing, set building etc. It's the longest part of the process.