Started by Voodoo Magic, Sep 21, 2021, 01:44:43 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 23, 2021, 12:00:13 PMI think "overthinking little" is probably the most accurate here.Has anyone just left a comment on Stout's posts and asked him for an interview .. ?
QuoteI was not the sole designer of the Predator creature. I heard there was some trouble with the suit after they began shooting in the jungle. Other special effects make-up designers were brought in who made some great design enhancements to the monster suit.The great Robert Short came up with those cool high tech-style dreadlocks.Someone on Stan Winston's talented team created that super cool four-pronged mouth."Success has many fathers; failure is an orphan."
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 29, 2021, 09:06:09 PMThis stunningly-made article is to get lost among so much breathtakingly content. Although I still not sure how I missed all this.Thanks Voodoo. I am so thankful for what you did, because I love everything from Giger.
QuoteI designed The Predator (My friend Rick Baker brought me in on this. I was really happy to get the gig; not so much because it was designing a monster but because it was my first work on a union film, a nice breakthrough, career-wise). Stan's people built the suit based on my designs and plussed it by adding that cool four-pronged mouth idea.
Quote from: Biggles on Oct 02, 2021, 02:07:40 PMI am confused. I was under the impression that Winston's team created the final Predator creature from whole cloth after the Boss insectoid thing was ditched. This is the version of events that SWS still gives (without any mention of Stout); https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/predator-30th-anniversary-behind-the-scenesClearly Stout did several concepts for the movie, and I presume created the final insectoid version? According to him though, he also designed the final form, minus the mandibles;QuoteI designed The Predator (My friend Rick Baker brought me in on this. I was really happy to get the gig; not so much because it was designing a monster but because it was my first work on a union film, a nice breakthrough, career-wise). Stan's people built the suit based on my designs and plussed it by adding that cool four-pronged mouth idea.Source: https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/2008/06/17/stan-winston-r-i-p/Does anyone know the actual timeline here? He doesn't even mention the Boss version.
Quote from: Biggles on Oct 03, 2021, 06:39:58 PMThank you Voodoo Magic; I remember reading your excellent post on that; it's partly why I was confused about Stout's contribution as it doesn't appear. Although Winston clearly had a thing about credit, it looks like Stout is forgetting/glossing over the contributions of others; I can't see how we jump from his concepts to Winston's mandibles. And it still looks to me that SWS at least did a full redesign on the head, not just the mandibles.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 03, 2021, 02:23:53 PMBeen meaning to post this but I do find it interesting Illfonic's "Haze" helmet does bear a resemblance to Stout's take on the Predator. A combination yes but I couldn't help but notice that.
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