Illustrator William Stout Reveals Early Concept Art for "Predator" including a G

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Voodoo Magic

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https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/

The glowing bubbles behind its sternum, I imagine that was supposed to be something related to the physiology of its heart?  It's pretty neat, almost like its chest cavity is filled with a fluid of some kind.

Yeah, this design I actually find somewhat appealing.

The sternum throws me off though. I keep seeing the silhouette of someone standing there worshipping the Predator.  :laugh:

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https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/

The glowing bubbles behind its sternum, I imagine that was supposed to be something related to the physiology of its heart?  It's pretty neat, almost like its chest cavity is filled with a fluid of some kind.

Yeah, this design I actually find somewhat appealing.

The sternum throws me off though. I keep seeing the silhouette of someone standing there worshipping the Predator.  :laugh:

I totally see that too!!  It's not just you, Voodoo, promise  :laugh:

Voodoo Magic

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https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/

The glowing bubbles behind its sternum, I imagine that was supposed to be something related to the physiology of its heart?  It's pretty neat, almost like its chest cavity is filled with a fluid of some kind.

Yeah, this design I actually find somewhat appealing.

The sternum throws me off though. I keep seeing the silhouette of someone standing there worshipping the Predator.  :laugh:

I totally see that too!!  It's not just you, Voodoo, promise  :laugh:

Glad it's not just me.  :D

Lost_Hunter

Very cool! Another hit. Reminds me of some Predator Spacesuit sketches I did a while back. I'm no William Stout though. Good find guys.

Kradan

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https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/

The glowing bubbles behind its sternum, I imagine that was supposed to be something related to the physiology of its heart?  It's pretty neat, almost like its chest cavity is filled with a fluid of some kind.

Yeah, this design I actually find somewhat appealing.

The sternum throws me off though. I keep seeing the silhouette of someone standing there worshipping the Predator.  :laugh:

Yep, same

Gilfryd

Huh.

QuoteHow I Screwed Up the Great Original Ending to Predator

At our second meeting, I cheerfully congratulated director John McTiernan on his current film project (Hunter, later renamed Predator).

"This is going to be amazing. You're going to attract two different audiences to this film."

John looked confused.

"What are you talking about?"

"You'll get your action/adventure crowd, of course — but with that ending, you'll attract a different audience as well. At the end, after Arnold Schwarzenegger has killed the Hunter, he looks down at the carcass of the creature. He notices something odd. He looks closer; then closer still. He reaches down to the carcass and opens it up. Inside all of this scary alien armor is a tiny, frail little creature. What a terrific commentary on Man as Hunter. He has to gird himself up with all this technology to hunt other creatures."

McTiernan thought about what I had just said. He opened his script and re-read the ending. Then, right in front of me, he tore those pages out of the script.

"John! What are you doing?!"

"We can't have that ending," he replied. "That would mean that Arnold beat up a wimp!"
https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/

Master

McTiernan, the man! Glad he got rid of this horrid ending.

SiL

All I can picture is the little alien in Men in Black :laugh:

I agree with Stout, it is a great allegory. But then so is having all of the technology and muscle of both combatants be ultimately overcome by wit and ingenuity. I thin think we got the better one in the final film.

Corporal Hicks

I don't remember that one in any of the scripts we have access to?  ???

SiL

I don't think the very original script is online. The earliest draft you guys have still has the Hunter being a human like figure under the suit. Maybe that's what he meant?

Voodoo Magic

Voodoo Magic

#25
Hmm. Don't quite know where to go with this. There's two ways to look at this I think.

TINY, LITTLE AS IN SIZE:
Is Stout's memory 100% accurate? If so, I wish all the concept art he was sharing included the "tiny, frail little creature" inside. (My mind went directly to ID4 too SiL :D)

The earliest draft of "Hunter" in public circulation (I believe) is dated July 27th, 1985, but the Thomas Brothers sold their Hunter spec script back in January 28th 1985, so there is that 6 month gap. If true, and if this is a reflection of what the Hunter creature looked like possibly in the very first spec script, than the implications are that this is the Predator version that the Thomas Brothers will get back in copyright reclaiming.

TINY, LITTLE AS IN INSIGNIFICANT:
At first glance we may be taking the "tiny" and "little" in the "tiny, frail little creature" too literally, or dramatically. And "tiny" could also mean "insignificant" or a variation of that. Stout could simply mean the very creature we read in the earliest draft we possess:

Quote"The Hunter slowly rolls onto his back, revealing his face. The netted hood of the Hunter's bio-energetic suit, the source of his camouflage protection, is drawn back, exposing a strikingly human-like face. Beneath the smooth, hairless, nearly translucent skin, a delicate network of veins and vessels can be seen, pulsing rapidly with pale green blood. The Hunter's eyes, pink and weak-looking, like an albino, blink, trying to focus in the bright sunlight."

*Edit - Added Little

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#26
Actually I have a roundabout way of checking an earlier draft than the ones we have (I think the second). Let me have a quick look.


Okay, so that ended in the Predator actually surviving and Matheny telling the Predator to f**k off Earth.


And it was the lizard Predator, not the armoured one.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2021, 11:04:42 AM
Actually I have a roundabout way of checking an earlier draft than the ones we have (I think the second). Let me have a quick look.


Okay, so that ended in the Predator actually surviving and Matheny telling the Predator to f**k off Earth.


And it was the lizard Predator, not the armoured one.

You know someone who has a copy?!

SiL

SiL

#28
I think "overthinking little" is probably the most accurate here.

Has anyone just left a comment on Stout's posts and asked him for an interview .. ?

Whiskeybrewer

Its an intriguing design. wouldnt mind seeing it take on a Predator in a future film

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