Quote from: Biggles on Oct 03, 2021, 06:39:58 PM
Thank you Voodoo Magic; I remember reading your excellent post on that; it's partly why I was confused about Stout's contribution as it doesn't appear. Although Winston clearly had a thing about credit, it looks like Stout is forgetting/glossing over the contributions of others; I can't see how we jump from his concepts to Winston's mandibles. And it still looks to me that SWS at least did a full redesign on the head, not just the mandibles.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 03, 2021, 02:23:53 PM
Been meaning to post this but I do find it interesting Illfonic's "Haze" helmet does bear a resemblance to Stout's take on the Predator. A combination yes but I couldn't help but notice that.
Quote from: Biggles on Oct 02, 2021, 02:07:40 PM
I am confused. I was under the impression that Winston's team created the final Predator creature from whole cloth after the Boss insectoid thing was ditched. This is the version of events that SWS still gives (without any mention of Stout); https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/predator-30th-anniversary-behind-the-scenes
Clearly Stout did several concepts for the movie, and I presume created the final insectoid version? According to him though, he also designed the final form, minus the mandibles;QuoteI designed The Predator (My friend Rick Baker brought me in on this. I was really happy to get the gig; not so much because it was designing a monster but because it was my first work on a union film, a nice breakthrough, career-wise). Stan's people built the suit based on my designs and plussed it by adding that cool four-pronged mouth idea.Source: https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/2008/06/17/stan-winston-r-i-p/
Does anyone know the actual timeline here? He doesn't even mention the Boss version.
QuoteI designed The Predator (My friend Rick Baker brought me in on this. I was really happy to get the gig; not so much because it was designing a monster but because it was my first work on a union film, a nice breakthrough, career-wise). Stan's people built the suit based on my designs and plussed it by adding that cool four-pronged mouth idea.Source: https://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/2008/06/17/stan-winston-r-i-p/
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 29, 2021, 09:06:09 PM
This stunningly-made article is to get lost among so much breathtakingly content. Although I still not sure how I missed all this.Thanks Voodoo. I am so thankful for what you did, because I love everything from Giger.
QuoteI was not the sole designer of the Predator creature. I heard there was some trouble with the suit after they began shooting in the jungle. Other special effects make-up designers were brought in who made some great design enhancements to the monster suit.
The great Robert Short came up with those cool high tech-style dreadlocks.
Someone on Stan Winston's talented team created that super cool four-pronged mouth.
"Success has many fathers; failure is an orphan."
Quote from: SiL on Sep 23, 2021, 12:00:13 PM
I think "overthinking little" is probably the most accurate here.
Has anyone just left a comment on Stout's posts and asked him for an interview .. ?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2021, 11:04:42 AM
Actually I have a roundabout way of checking an earlier draft than the ones we have (I think the second). Let me have a quick look.
Okay, so that ended in the Predator actually surviving and Matheny telling the Predator to f**k off Earth.
And it was the lizard Predator, not the armoured one.
Quote"The Hunter slowly rolls onto his back, revealing his face. The netted hood of the Hunter's bio-energetic suit, the source of his camouflage protection, is drawn back, exposing a strikingly human-like face. Beneath the smooth, hairless, nearly translucent skin, a delicate network of veins and vessels can be seen, pulsing rapidly with pale green blood. The Hunter's eyes, pink and weak-looking, like an albino, blink, trying to focus in the bright sunlight."