Release Date is August 5.
A new synopsis and extra production details:
QuoteSet in the Comanche Nation 300 years ago, "Prey" is the story of a young woman, Naru, a fierce and highly skilled warrior. She has been raised in the shadow of some of the most legendary hunters who roam the Great Plains, so when danger threatens her camp, she sets out to protect her people. The prey she stalks, and ultimately confronts, turns out to be a highly evolved alien predator with a technically advanced arsenal, resulting in a vicious and terrifying showdown between the two adversaries.
"Prey" is directed by Dan Trachtenberg, written by Patrick Aison ("Jack Ryan," "Treadstone"), and produced by John Davis ("Jungle Cruise," "The Predator") and Jhane Myers ("Monsters of God"), with Lawrence Gordon ("Watchmen"), Marty Ewing ("It: Chapter Two"), James E. Thomas, John C. Thomas and Marc Toberoff ("Fantasy Island") serving as executive producers.
The filmmakers were committed to creating a film that provides an accurate portrayal of the Comanche and brings a level of authenticity that rings true to its Indigenous peoples. Myers, an acclaimed filmmaker, Sundance Fellow and member of the Comanche nation herself, is known for her attention and dedication to films surrounding the Comanche and Blackfeet nations and her passion for honoring the legacies of the Native communities. As a result, the film features a cast comprised almost entirely of Native and First Nation's talent, including Amber Midthunder ("The Ice Road," "Roswell, New Mexico"), newcomer Dakota Beavers, Stormee Kipp ("Sooyii"), Michelle Thrush ("The Journey Home"), Julian Black Antelope ("Tribal").
Neat. Crossing my fingers for something cool here.
So far so good.
Like the sound design.
Way shorter than I was hoping it'd be, but nice and tense!
Also the fact that we've gotten a teaser means the promotional cycle should be a little more substantial than I was expecting. I honestly didn't think we'd get anything more than a full trailer a couple of weeks before release, so as much as I'd have liked to have seen something more substantial as our first look, this is cool!
It also squashes any doubts that the Predator in this wouldn't be using the plasma caster just because the people he was hunting had more primitive weapons than we've seen before. :P
Need that full trailer! :o
Quote from: Kailem on May 16, 2022, 01:24:05 PMIt also squashes any doubts that the Predator in this wouldn't be using the plasma caster just because the people he was hunting had more primitive weapons than we've seen before. :P
Pft. Predators don't play fair. It was never in any doubt for me!
Really enjoyed that trailer! I don't the full trailer doesn't go wild with the details, but I really liked what this was. I do wish we'd have seen the cloak's shimmer, but I've got a feeling they're going to keep the Predator design for this a secret until release.
Looks swell, but can we really jude it afer such short material? I think the filter is similar as in AvP-R (day time or visible parts :D) and I like it allot, Predator sound is also neat. Let's see what comes next.
Yeah I liked how it was just short, simple, tense, and told us everything we need to know going in as far as the basic hook goes; that it's a movie set in the past with a Predator hunting Native Americans.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 16, 2022, 01:34:11 PMI do wish we'd have seen the cloak's shimmer, but I've got a feeling they're going to keep the Predator design for this a secret until release.
We just need a daytime procedural cop show-style "zoom in; enhance!" on that last bit to see if we can make out any details! ;D
I think for a teaser it's appropriately tense, it's shot well, and like skhellter said it has some solid sound design.
I have been wanting a period piece Predator film for ages, and Trachtenberg (who's work I really dug on 10 Cloverfield Lane) is definitely delivering on that here. It's early days and we have very little to go off of, of course, but I'd honestly be shocked if this doesn't wind up being better than Predators and The Predator.
The cinematography. The lack of music. The mood that's established? If this is a sign of what the whole movie might be like.... So far? I'm liking what I'm seeing!
Someone's not making it to the final act. :D That's a good tease!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 16, 2022, 01:40:54 PMIt's early days and we have very little to go off of, of course, but I'd honestly be shocked if this doesn't wind up being better than Predators and The Predator.
Hicks will kill me but that's not a far mountain to climb, especially the latter!
Love the teaser, getting hyped for this one
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 16, 2022, 01:41:51 PMThe cinematography. The lack of music. The mood that's established? If this is a sign of what the whole movie might be like.... So far? I'm liking what I'm seeing!
The Predator design aside, the cinematography is what I'm looking forward to seeing most.
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 16, 2022, 01:44:37 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on May 16, 2022, 01:41:51 PMThe cinematography. The lack of music. The mood that's established? If this is a sign of what the whole movie might be like.... So far? I'm liking what I'm seeing!
The Predator design aside, the cinematography is what I'm looking forward to seeing most.
Cinematography so far I'm digging. ADI's Predator? Hoping for the best but expecting the worse.
Quote from: Kailem on May 16, 2022, 01:24:05 PMIt also squashes any doubts that the Predator in this wouldn't be using the plasma caster just because the people he was hunting had more primitive weapons than we've seen before. :P
You've written squashes and I read Sasquatch :laugh: Guess some things ain't gona change. Long live
#TeamSasquatch
Quote from: Master on May 16, 2022, 01:47:36 PMQuote from: Kailem on May 16, 2022, 01:24:05 PMIt also squashes any doubts that the Predator in this wouldn't be using the plasma caster just because the people he was hunting had more primitive weapons than we've seen before. :P
You've written squashes and I read Sasquatch :laugh: Guess some things ain't gona change. Long live #TeamSasquatch
Oh Sasquatch is gonna be there for sure; that's just a fact! :laugh:
If you squint extremely hard, right before you pass out you can see the Sasquatch in the teaser!
All I can make out after running that last bit through an ai upscaler is that this Predator looks like it'd be taking on a brownish hue, rather than the "classic" yellow:
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i see the Sasquatch in the trailer.
I doubt the sanity of those that can't see it.
Quote from: Kailem on May 16, 2022, 02:06:04 PMAll I can make out after running that last bit through an ai upscaler is that this Predator looks like it'd be taking on a brownish hue, rather than the "classic" yellow:
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That's the Sasquatch!
The movie opens with a Predator ship landing, the Predator stepping out, then getting mauled by Bigfoot who take his weapons and uses them throughout the rest of the film as the main antagonist.
I have some hope that this wont be as bad as the Predator.
Deep Sea Diver Confirmed!
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"The filmmakers were committed to creating a film that provides an accurate portrayal of the Comanche and brings a level of authenticity that rings true to its Indigenous peoples."
I sure hope the filmmakers are also committed to provide an accurate portrayal of the Yautja.
Certainly is a teaser alright... Not sure what to make of it, seems well shot at least
Also hopefully that August 5th date is worldwide too, otherwise I'll have to sail the high seas
Nice teaser. Definitely looking forward to this.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 16, 2022, 03:10:09 AMI had a dream about a trailer for this lmao
So weird. Looks good.
I like what I see. Tense and short as a teaser should be
At thirty two seconds you can see the Predator on the right side of the frame.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 16, 2022, 03:12:44 PMAt thirty two seconds you can see the Predator on the right side of the frame.
I don't think there's anything there other than the source of the laser, I don't even think there's a camouflage effect happening there
Finally ;D
im interested. it seems fun and i could be wrong but there was a book following the same basic premise that i enjoyed
Quote from: Doomofman on May 16, 2022, 03:15:00 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 16, 2022, 03:12:44 PMAt thirty two seconds you can see the Predator on the right side of the frame.
I don't think there's anything there other than the source of the laser, I don't even think there's a camouflage effect happening there
There's a zoomed-in screencap of it on the previous page. It's the shot after the date, the Predator is not-so-clearly visible.
Quote from: Kailem on May 16, 2022, 03:40:57 PMQuote from: Doomofman on May 16, 2022, 03:15:00 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 16, 2022, 03:12:44 PMAt thirty two seconds you can see the Predator on the right side of the frame.
I don't think there's anything there other than the source of the laser, I don't even think there's a camouflage effect happening there
There's a zoomed-in screencap of it on the previous page. It's the shot after the date, the Predator is not-so-clearly visible.
Ah so 37 seconds not 32
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1526220965197139969
Already better than The Predator.
Not much to get your teeth into, but I like the colour pallet. Need to see more.
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Decent teaser, I'm interested but very cautious. It's all going to come down to the performance of the leads I think.
I'm fully prepared for another ADI predator but I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.
so far the like to dislike ratio on youtube seems mixed
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Is this movie going to have all its dialogue in Comanche? Since they're committed about the portrayal and accuracy. I think that would be pretty cool.
I was wondering if they were going to be speaking English too or if there were going to be subtitles.
Yeah, I liked the teaser. I think it will be very different to anything we've seen before.
f**k yes! I absolutely love how this trailer is short, sweet and really doesn't spoil a thing! Oh man I'm hyped right now!!!
Quote from: Whos_Nick on May 16, 2022, 05:18:34 PMso far the like to dislike ratio on youtube seems mixed
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Wait, how can you see dislikes count ?
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Quote from: Kailem on May 16, 2022, 01:24:05 PMIt also squashes any doubts that the Predator in this wouldn't be using the plasma caster just because the people he was hunting had more primitive weapons than we've seen before. :P
Kinda feel that in the POV of the Predators, they're so advanced that there's barely a difference between a bow and arrow and a machine gun.
May 16, 2022, 06:18:39 PMQuote from: Whos_Nick on May 16, 2022, 05:18:34 PMso far the like to dislike ratio on youtube seems mixed
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My guess why: "ermgherd non-white woman main character = woke!11" crap
Love hearing those big stomps chasing after her. They hype train is here!
Teaser works. Made me want to see more.
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I kinda hope it is in the native language just cause it would further annoy the "ermgherd non-white woman main character = woke!11" crowd as Kudzu put it
Extremely bad feeling about this just like I had with The Predator, whoever this time they won't take my money. Straight to hulu, only trailer we have is this... Looks low budget with no love or care, feels like one of those fanmade predator movies from youtube. The series keeps only going downhill. Predator 2 and Predators were still fine for the most part for me but still its just deterioration at this point. We went from the Original Predator looking to hunt the most dangerous prey on Earth, in the form of a elite mercenary squad of killers to this thing. Weak.
Quote from: Darkness on May 16, 2022, 05:43:36 PMI was wondering if they were going to be speaking English too or if there were going to be subtitles.
I doubt it, it's not an art or foreign film.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 16, 2022, 06:53:51 PMExtremely bad feeling about this just like I had with The Predator, whoever this time they won't take my money. Straight to hulu, only trailer we have is this... Looks low budget with no love or care, feels like one of those fanmade predator movies from youtube. The series keeps only going downhill. Predator 2 and Predators were still fine for the most part for me but still its just deterioration at this point. We went from the Original Predator looking to hunt the most dangerous prey on Earth, in the form of a elite mercenary squad of killers to this thing. Weak.
I'll put you down as a maybe, then!
Can't wait for it me, teaser did exactly what it's meant to do: teased.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 16, 2022, 06:52:16 PMhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/34/ce/d134cef502afca241f9e2e63e0db0001.jpg
;D If only
What is a bit problematic is that plantation. A rigidly straight line of trees in a pre-agrarian culture?
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 16, 2022, 06:53:51 PMExtremely bad feeling about this just like I had with The Predator, whoever this time they won't take my money. Straight to hulu, only trailer we have is this... Looks low budget with no love or care, feels like one of those fanmade predator movies from youtube. The series keeps only going downhill. Predator 2 and Predators were still fine for the most part for me but still its just deterioration at this point. We went from the Original Predator looking to hunt the most dangerous prey on Earth, in the form of a elite mercenary squad of killers to this thing. Weak.
It's incredible how you know so much after seeing a 45 second teaser. I wish I had the power to see the future like some people do.
Quote from: Mikey on May 16, 2022, 07:19:30 PMQuote from: Samhain13 on May 16, 2022, 06:53:51 PMExtremely bad feeling about this just like I had with The Predator, whoever this time they won't take my money. Straight to hulu, only trailer we have is this... Looks low budget with no love or care, feels like one of those fanmade predator movies from youtube. The series keeps only going downhill. Predator 2 and Predators were still fine for the most part for me but still its just deterioration at this point. We went from the Original Predator looking to hunt the most dangerous prey on Earth, in the form of a elite mercenary squad of killers to this thing. Weak.
It's incredible how you know so much after seeing a 45 second teaser. I wish I had the power to see the future like some people do.
Its a gift only a few can have. Its not expected from a mediocre person.
Stop it before you start.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 16, 2022, 07:00:27 PMWhat is a bit problematic is that plantation. A rigidly straight line of trees in a pre-agrarian culture?
That occurs in nature. I shot this in the middle of the Utah wilderness:
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Could do with confirmation of the UK release date so I can book it off work. ;D
It's funny, that shot with the tree line really reminded me of Predators, both the planet reveal scene and the Hanzo fight, it's like a nice combination of the two
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 16, 2022, 07:59:07 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 16, 2022, 07:00:27 PMWhat is a bit problematic is that plantation. A rigidly straight line of trees in a pre-agrarian culture?
That occurs in nature. I shot this in the middle of the Utah wilderness:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS50RzJUEAEDOd0?format=jpg&name=large
ouch.
might as well have told him to touch grass.
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 16, 2022, 07:59:07 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 16, 2022, 07:00:27 PMWhat is a bit problematic is that plantation. A rigidly straight line of trees in a pre-agrarian culture?
That occurs in nature. I shot this in the middle of the Utah wilderness:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS50RzJUEAEDOd0?format=jpg&name=large
Your picture looks much more natural. Generally (at least around here) in natural forests the tree lines are much more irregular with a kind or gradual thinning to the edges. Is logging permitted there?
Nice teaser! Definitely teased.
It's a good teaser. I kind of want to see someone edit it with a hundred laser beams a la the Predators trailer. :laugh:
Shane Black damaged the franchise to the point where the marketing team had to drop the brand name. Their really isn't much to go on by this teaser and I want to like it but all the leaks point to this films being the same old woke crap that's done nothing but push away fans. Any part of me that used to say "wait for the film", "they're just rumours" died when every leak about The Predator, no matter how stupid turned out to be true :'(
Feels weird. Looks fan made.
It feels like a budget difference between it and the last film. But Predator isn't a thing you should be spending 88 million on in the first place. It feels like Predators from the teaser and Predators doesn't look bad even if you can see the budget at points.
I wouldn't be surprised if it had a comparable budget. I'm thinking visually it will probably be in-line with the others as far creature fx (I mean as far as ADI) go.
" Feels weird. Looks fan made "
How do you make something not fan made , lol .
other then that , what's the chances this will get a physical release 4k Blu - ray etc.
Looks like garbage, just like the last one. Just like last time you'll have mindless fanboys defending this trash and harassing anyone with a functional brain or a shred of objective honesty. Remember how Shane Black was the second coming on this forum right up until The Sex Predator FLOPPED HARD? Of course you'll all do the "who, me?" bullshit and pretend you have no idea what I'm talking about. Maybe even delete this comment, but in the end deep down you'll know I'm right.
Whatever, this fandom gets what it deserves.
Straight to hulu is no bad.
ALL movies FOX straight hulo or disney+ less Avatar or Free Guys.
Fox president dixit. ONLY two movies in year in cinemas. 10 movies in streaming. ONLY movies R in HULO in cinemas PG13 less Deadpool 3.
FOX is new netflix. Fox is streaming plataform content adult. PREY is R, is small. NEVER in cinema.
NExt films Ridley scott , Spielberg in fox ONLY Disney+hulo. NO in CINEMA becose only blockbusters with big boxoffice.
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on May 16, 2022, 09:01:19 PM[...] same old woke crap that's done nothing but push away fans.
God, this endlessly repeated crap is so exhausting.
I for one welcome the exodus of people who describe things as "woke crap" from the fandom.
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 16, 2022, 07:59:07 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 16, 2022, 07:00:27 PMWhat is a bit problematic is that plantation. A rigidly straight line of trees in a pre-agrarian culture?
That occurs in nature. I shot this in the middle of the Utah wilderness:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS50RzJUEAEDOd0?format=jpg&name=large
Beautiful...but looks like tick central! :o
I like the slightly revised synopsis. Can't say much about the teaser itself, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 16, 2022, 05:33:01 PMIs this movie going to have all its dialogue in Comanche? Since they're committed about the portrayal and accuracy. I think that would be pretty cool.
I'm hoping for this tbh
May 16, 2022, 11:36:38 PMQuote from: SiL on May 16, 2022, 11:08:37 PMI for one welcome the exodus of people who describe things as "woke crap" from the fandom.
Amen
May 16, 2022, 11:38:27 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 16, 2022, 08:33:55 PMQuote from: RidgeTop on May 16, 2022, 07:59:07 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 16, 2022, 07:00:27 PMWhat is a bit problematic is that plantation. A rigidly straight line of trees in a pre-agrarian culture?
That occurs in nature. I shot this in the middle of the Utah wilderness:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS50RzJUEAEDOd0?format=jpg&name=large
Your picture looks much more natural. Generally (at least around here) in natural forests the tree lines are much more irregular with a kind or gradual thinning to the edges. Is logging permitted there?
I live in Oregon, the forested part of the state. Lots of tree lines that look the same way here; naturally too. Not from logging.
Quote from: Engineer on May 16, 2022, 11:28:30 PMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 16, 2022, 05:33:01 PMIs this movie going to have all its dialogue in Comanche? Since they're committed about the portrayal and accuracy. I think that would be pretty cool.
I'm hoping for this tbh
It would be a unique Predator movie with a fairly immersive experience, so I also second this.
Not much to go on but its nice to finally see some footage!
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It's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
Quote from: Jacku on May 17, 2022, 01:19:02 AMIt's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
The Predator underperformed last the franchise was in theaters. Risks would be taken given the pandemic and while things have been going back to normal, that's still a considerable risk despite even Disney's own success during this.
Going right to streaming is less financial risk. It also gets the film in everyone's hands the minute it comes out. So long as you have Hulu, you can watch it. So even if Covid shuts things down again, you don't have to worry about butts in the seats when said seats are in the customers own home.
Quote from: Jacku on May 17, 2022, 01:19:02 AMIt's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
The studio (formerly fox), has decided to go with the straight-to-streaming model because it allows them to put out more content more quickly, and take some risks with that content that they wouldn't otherwise be able to take with a mainstream theatrical release. For example, a predator movie set in the past focused around a Native American character. I applaud them for taking this approach and I'm genuinely excited for this film.
Quote from: Jacku on May 17, 2022, 01:19:02 AMIt's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
It's not worth anymore.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 17, 2022, 01:54:56 AMQuote from: Jacku on May 17, 2022, 01:19:02 AMIt's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
The Predator underperformed last the franchise was in theaters. Risks would be taken given the pandemic and while things have been going back to normal, that's still a considerable risk despite even Disney's own success during this.
Going right to streaming is less financial risk. It also gets the film in everyone's hands the minute it comes out. So long as you have Hulu, you can watch it. So even if Covid shuts things down again, you don't have to worry about butts in the seats when said seats are in the customers own home.
Yet they put the recent Doctor Strange film in theaters? Something about it doesn't sit right with me. Wished they did it both ways so that if there is no future shutdown, people can go see in in theaters and have the choice of seeing it at home. Wanna experience this in a theater honestly, but hey, ordering pizza with 20 hot wings and a coke on the side is way better then expensive ass popcorn and soda at least right? :laugh:
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 17, 2022, 03:36:03 AMQuote from: SuperiorIronman on May 17, 2022, 01:54:56 AMQuote from: Jacku on May 17, 2022, 01:19:02 AMIt's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
The Predator underperformed last the franchise was in theaters. Risks would be taken given the pandemic and while things have been going back to normal, that's still a considerable risk despite even Disney's own success during this.
Going right to streaming is less financial risk. It also gets the film in everyone's hands the minute it comes out. So long as you have Hulu, you can watch it. So even if Covid shuts things down again, you don't have to worry about butts in the seats when said seats are in the customers own home.
Yet they put the recent Doctor Strange film in theaters? Something about it doesn't sit right with me. Wished they did it both ways so that if there is no future shutdown, people can go see in in theaters and have the choice of seeing it at home. Wanna experience this in a theater honestly, but hey, ordering pizza with 20 hot wings and a coke on the side is way better then expensive ass popcorn and soda at least right? :laugh:
Dr. Strange 2 was a lot less riskier. They knew that would fill seats regardless of whether it was actually good or not.
Good teaser, the sound design is on point. I love that Amber feels like a huge underdog compared to the hard ass protagonists of the other four films.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 17, 2022, 03:36:03 AMQuote from: SuperiorIronman on May 17, 2022, 01:54:56 AMQuote from: Jacku on May 17, 2022, 01:19:02 AMIt's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
The Predator underperformed last the franchise was in theaters. Risks would be taken given the pandemic and while things have been going back to normal, that's still a considerable risk despite even Disney's own success during this.
Going right to streaming is less financial risk. It also gets the film in everyone's hands the minute it comes out. So long as you have Hulu, you can watch it. So even if Covid shuts things down again, you don't have to worry about butts in the seats when said seats are in the customers own home.
Yet they put the recent Doctor Strange film in theaters? Something about it doesn't sit right with me. Wished they did it both ways so that if there is no future shutdown, people can go see in in theaters and have the choice of seeing it at home. Wanna experience this in a theater honestly, but hey, ordering pizza with 20 hot wings and a coke on the side is way better then expensive ass popcorn and soda at least right? :laugh:
Dr Strange is going to make almost a billion dollars because it's a PG 13 Marvel movie. This is an R rated entry in a franchise that's never been considered a huge money maker in perhaps the worst cinema attendance drought in history. Seems pretty clear.
Projectors are looking like a good investment for the future of both the Alien and Predator franchises, and are dirt cheap these days.
Quote from: SiL on May 16, 2022, 11:08:37 PMI for one welcome the exodus of people who describe things as "woke crap" from the fandom.
They don't leave. They cling. :(
I'm still upset that I wont get to see this in the cinema without organising something myself, but I'm still glad we're getting new content. It's not like the majority of my watching of the Alien and Predator films isn't on my TV at home anyway... I just hope it actually ends up good, and I'll not prejudge it wholly based on 45 seconds of footage and what we know of the film. I'm excited about the setting. I've been wanting something in the past for ages and I hope it lives up to the franchise!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2022, 07:12:48 AMThey don't leave. They cling. :(
But they keep promising to :-\
I'm actually glad it's straight to streaming but that's 100% because I'll have a 6 month old by then and my ability to actually get to a theatre will be about 0.
Decent teaser. Nothing too special overall but definitely excited to see some media presence on Prey. I wouldn't say it looks "cheap" per se but it does appear like streaming service movie. which is totally fine with me. Fox spent 80 million on the predator and it didn't work out so it only makes sense prey would be a smaller budget. To echo what User SIL said I too will have a young infant by release date so I'm happy it's going to Hulu. I'm sure it might take a few takes to get through it but I'll enjoy it regardless! I also am looking forward to the discussions and trailer breakdown that AVP galaxy will cover.
Quote from: Dachande's brother on May 16, 2022, 02:36:19 PM"The filmmakers were committed to creating a film that provides an accurate portrayal of the Comanche and brings a level of authenticity that rings true to its Indigenous peoples."
I sure hope the filmmakers are also committed to provide an accurate portrayal of the Yautja.
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May 22, 2022, 07:22:18 AMQuote from: KiramidHead on May 16, 2022, 08:51:13 PMIt's a good teaser. I kind of want to see someone edit it with a hundred laser beams a la the Predators trailer. :laugh:
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May 22, 2022, 07:21:54 AMQuote from: SuperiorIronman on May 16, 2022, 09:30:36 PMIt feels like a budget difference between it and the last film.
How does one tell? I mean, there may well be a gaping budget differential, but we got a teaser of basically trees, grass, primitive weapons and garb. The depth of focus and framing looks good to me cinematography wise. Is it the lack of color saturation that's making you see a budget difference?
May 22, 2022, 07:21:48 AMQuote from: Wysps on May 16, 2022, 11:28:21 PMBeautiful...but looks like tick central! :o
I just genuinely love that this was your reaction to that photo. ;D
May 22, 2022, 07:21:42 AMQuote from: SuperiorIronman on May 17, 2022, 01:54:56 AMQuote from: Jacku on May 17, 2022, 01:19:02 AMIt's a shame this isn't a cinema release. Why is that?
The Predator underperformed last the franchise was in theaters. Risks would be taken given the pandemic and while things have been going back to normal, that's still a considerable risk despite even Disney's own success during this.
Going right to streaming is less financial risk. It also gets the film in everyone's hands the minute it comes out. So long as you have Hulu, you can watch it. So even if Covid shuts things down again, you don't have to worry about butts in the seats when said seats are in the customers own home.
I would say Covid had nothing to do with this one though. They were casting early 2020 for Skulls originally, then the shutdown happened, Canada had major restrictions due to the pandemic and casting got rolling again a year later.
We saw this coming prior when Disney acquired Fox. Upon the acquisition, the news was out that Disney Execs went through Fox's theatrical slate, slashed projects, and with the films they kept, sent half of them over to streaming. And many of us surmised it included Alien and Predator, because they are the lesser of franchises, where franchises are concerned
Loving the bare bones, straight up vibe on this. It's a hunt film and I can't wait.
Cloaked dreadlocks in the final shot?
I am f**king loving all the people complaining that the idea of defeating a Predator with bows and arrows is stupid... even though that's exactly what Arnie did in the first film they revere so much :laugh:
And in Predators, too...essentially clubbing one to death with a hatchet. People have super shi**y memories, or they're just trolling for trolling's sake.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 17, 2022, 12:10:17 PMQuote from: Wysps on May 16, 2022, 11:28:21 PMBeautiful...but looks like tick central! :o
I just genuinely love that this was your reaction to that photo. ;D
It's always the most beautiful places too :'(
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 17, 2022, 04:20:52 PMI am f**king loving all the people complaining that the idea of defeating a Predator with bows and arrows is stupid... even though that's exactly what Arnie did in the first film they revere so much :laugh:
Are you sure? The way I remember it, the movie ended with the scene where Mac grabbed the minigun and everyone else just started blasting the jungle, then the Predator died and the credits came up! Are you saying there was more movie after that part?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 17, 2022, 04:20:52 PMI am f**king loving all the people complaining that the idea of defeating a Predator with bows and arrows is stupid... even though that's exactly what Arnie did in the first film they revere so much :laugh:
Yeah but that was Arnie. There was 5000lbs of force behind his bow draw. Not a girlie little bow draw... :P
I saw plenty of the things that ultimately killed Jungle Hunter in that teaser:
Was that drool coming from the predator at the end of that teaser trailer? The predator drools like the xenomorph now? Maybe I forgot the creature has drooled in past films. Not an issue for me, just curious. I'm all for keeping the Predator franchise alive.
It's cloaking effect
Quote from: Biomechanoid on May 17, 2022, 04:55:23 PMWas that drool coming from the predator at the end of that teaser trailer? The predator drools like the xenomorph now? Maybe I forgot the creature has drooled in past films. Not an issue for me, just curious. I'm all for keeping the Predator franchise alive.
I think it was cloaked dreads.
"Jungle Hunter, what is the point of all those pushups if you can't even lift a bloody log?"
So they're more interested in box ticking for native Americans than just making a good film. This genuinely sounds like a dumpster fire. That and the fact its not getting a theatrical release says it all.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 17, 2022, 05:56:19 PM"Jungle Hunter, what is the point of all those pushups if you can't even lift a bloody log?"
"Some men just want to rip your spine out"
Quote from: rH on May 17, 2022, 06:03:49 PMSo they're more interested in box ticking for native Americans than just making a good film. This genuinely sounds like a dumpster fire. That and the fact its not getting a theatrical release says it all.
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Fox R only Hulo.
In cinema Fox movies ONLY PG13 and ONLY two in year. ONLY Avatar, Free Guy 2,Apes and Deadpool 3 ( becose 800 boxofice).
FOX PRESIDENT.
The PRredator boxoffice 800?. New movie /sequel in cinema but is a dream never happen.
Quote from: RIP77 on May 17, 2022, 06:17:00 PMFox R only Hulo.
In cinema Fox movies ONLY PG13 and ONLY two in year. ONLY Avatar, Free Guy 2,Apes and Deadpool 3 ( becose 800 boxofice).
FOX PRESIDENT.
The PRredator boxoffice 800?. New movie /sequel in cinema but is a dream never happen.
What are you even trying to say?
Quote from: RIP77 on May 17, 2022, 06:17:00 PMFox R only Hulo.
In cinema Fox movies ONLY PG13 and ONLY two in year. ONLY Avatar, Free Guy 2,Apes and Deadpool 3 ( becose 800 boxofice).
FOX PRESIDENT.
The PRredator boxoffice 800?. New movie /sequel in cinema but is a dream never happen.
I saw both
The Last Duel and
Nightmare Alley, two R-rated 20th Century Studios/Searchlight films, in the theater in 2021.
Now granted, very few people saw either of them. And that sucks, 'cause they were both excellent. But they were in the theater.
Quote from: rH on May 17, 2022, 06:03:49 PMSo they're more interested in box ticking for native Americans than just making a good film. This genuinely sounds like a dumpster fire. That and the fact its not getting a theatrical release says it all.
So you'll be leaving?
More to the point, if they'd bothered to read the novelisation of the first film, they'd realise the idea of Native Americans fighting Predators has been around literally since the franchise's beginnings.
I think the perfect way to have ended this trailer, would have been for the warrior with the bow to loose the arrow, only for the Predator to catch it, and de-cloak.
Not gonna lie I was half expecting that and then was saddened it didn't happen. :P
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 17, 2022, 04:20:52 PMI am f**king loving all the people complaining that the idea of defeating a Predator with bows and arrows is stupid... even though that's exactly what Arnie did in the first film they revere so much :laugh:
This has been pissing me off with frustration for a long while. There's a very testosterone-driven dude-bro attitude in relation to this fandom.
What's weird is that a good proportion of them get nostalgia hype whenever Machiko is mentioned and she actually had a
fist-
fight with one in her first sequel. Her narrated prose outlined her style and solution just fine: Get close and you're dead. Use their weight and inertia against them.
Add that to a character whose entire
life would have revolved around gaining tracking skills at least as advanced as Billy's, if not more so... This character has decent odds of surviving.
The closest we ever came to a depiction of Chad McBeefstick trying to punch a Predator to death was the first one and Dutch quickly realised, "Bad idea..." The retaliation was so vicious, so brutal, he almost died from it.
Harrigan won because he played dead and used a Predator's own weapon against it - and nobody in their right mind is going to say he was fitter than 1980s Arnold did. But nobody's crying foul about how he won the day, either.
Absolutely nothing is preventing this character from setting traps, using the environment/local wildlife to her advantage or exploiting discarded Predator tools. Most of a Predator's body isn't even typically armoured and pretty exposed if you've got a decent weapon.
If you can think up a way for a tribesperson to kill a bear, then you can think up a way for one to kill a Predator, too. Or at least f**k one up sufficiently that it admits defeat and accepts you're too much trouble to continue with.
Nightmare Asylum
Cancerblack
The Last Duel and Nigthmare Del Toro is Old Fox. Movies producion before Disney buy FOX.
New Fox is a platafom streaming. ONLY two in year, ONLY comercial Pg13 ( Deadpool 3 exception). 12 movies in year since 2023 only Disney+/Hulo. Movies R ONLY Hulo. Movies Oscar only hulo.
PREY is no exception en Hulo is a new Fox Disney2.0 in cinemas and OLD FOX adult in plataform Disney+-Hulo.
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Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 17, 2022, 11:33:32 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 17, 2022, 04:20:52 PMI am f**king loving all the people complaining that the idea of defeating a Predator with bows and arrows is stupid... even though that's exactly what Arnie did in the first film they revere so much :laugh:
This has been pissing me off with frustration for a long while. There's a very testosterone-driven dude-bro attitude in relation to this fandom.
What's weird is that a good proportion of them get nostalgia hype whenever Machiko is mentioned and she actually had a fist-fight with one in her first sequel. Her narrated prose outlined her style and solution just fine: Get close and you're dead. Use their weight and inertia against them.
Add that to a character whose entire life would have revolved around gaining tracking skills at least as advanced as Billy's, if not more so... This character has decent odds of surviving.
The closest we ever came to a depiction of Chad McBeefstick trying to punch a Predator to death was the first one and Dutch quickly realised, "Bad idea..." The retaliation was so vicious, so brutal, he almost died from it.
Harrigan won because he played dead and used a Predator's own weapon against it - and nobody in their right mind is going to say he was fitter than 1980s Arnold did. But nobody's crying foul about how he won the day, either.
Absolutely nothing is preventing this character from setting traps, using the environment/local wildlife to her advantage or exploiting discarded Predator tools. Most of a Predator's body isn't even typically armoured and pretty exposed if you've got a decent weapon.
If you can think up a way for a tribesperson to kill a bear, then you can think up a way for one to kill a Predator, too. Or at least f**k one up sufficiently that it admits defeat and accepts you're too much trouble to continue with.
Predator 2 showed even that doesn't matter. Harrigan loaded City Hunter with 9 shotgun blasts at basically point blank range. Didn't slow City Hunter down at all.
Didn't slow him down at all? He needed emergency medical aide and was ready to blow himself up the next time Harrigan put him in a tough spot. Dude was f**ked up plenty.
It's not mainly because its a female lead.
It's because she looks like a goddamn teenager.
Every single Predator Film has lowered the bar for the humans.
The skill level of both the Predators and the Humans has been lowered so far. That now some kid is supposedly going to defeat an alien killing machine with superior technology.
Worse. The lead isn't going to be an actual skilled warrior...soldier...cop...etc. She simply WANTS to be. A warrior. But she isn't yet. She is a noob even among her people.
Also... the Comanche didn't have female warriors. It's historically insulting.
People loved Ellen Ripley, Leia Organa, Arwen and Lara Croft. There aren't issues women leading a cool thing, provided the casting and character herself serves the actual story, not some dipshit studio execs whims.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMIt's not mainly because its a female lead.
It's because she looks like a goddamn teenager.
Every single Predator Film has lowered the bar for the humans.
The skill level of both the Predators and the Humans has been lowered so far. That now some kid is supposedly going to defeat an alien killing machine with superior technology.
Worse. The lead isn't going to be an actual skilled warrior...soldier...cop...etc. She simply WANTS to be. A warrior. But she isn't yet. She is a noob even among her people.
Also... the Comanche didn't have female warriors. It's historically insulting.
People loved Ellen Ripley, Leia Organa, Arwen and Lara Croft. There aren't issues women leading a cool thing, provided the casting and character herself serves the actual story, not some dipshit studio execs whims.
Not that I 100% disagree with you. But the plot synopsis lists her as a "skilled and fierce warrior". So historical inaccuracies aside. I'm betting she's received training before the story starts.
QuoteThat now some kid is supposedly going to defeat an alien killing machine with superior technology.
The original was defeated by accidentally standing in the wrong spot.
It's almost like it's always been the point that innate human ingenuity and wit has been more valuable than our technology and strength.
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2022, 02:56:04 AMQuoteThat now some kid is supposedly going to defeat an alien killing machine with superior technology.
The original was defeated by accidentally standing in the wrong spot.
It's almost like it's always been the point that innate human ingenuity and wit has been more valuable than our technology and strength.
Sure if she gets like humiliated by the Predator through the whole movie but beat it at the end by setting a trap that drops a bunch heavy stuff on it. Huh something bigger than a log I want this time. Then I can manage it better.
Why would you expect her to beat it any other way, assuming she does?
Besides a completely baseless "it's Disney!" or "it's woke!" or "because it's going to suck!", I can't see what people would legitimately expect to see otherwise.
Quote from: Biomechanoid on May 17, 2022, 04:55:23 PMWas that drool coming from the predator at the end of that teaser trailer? The predator drools like the xenomorph now?
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Always did, see that hanging from his chin?
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It's the Xenos who are drooly ones
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Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMIt's not mainly because its a female lead.
It's because she looks like a goddamn teenager.
Because she is one. She's an 18 year old young woman. Mortality rates were very different in those days. Especially for women, who could often die during childbirth. People would have to mature at an earlier age in that society, so that they could hunt, etcetera.
Could she be in her mid-twenties? Sure, but she probably wouldn't be at the point of her life, by then, where she's facing this conflict of desire to be a warrior. She'd already be in her assigned station in life.
People younger than 18 are fighting and dying, right now, in Eastern Europe. If you can kill a human being, you can also conceivably kill a Predator, too. So long as it's executed plausibly, that's what matters.
QuoteEvery single Predator Film has lowered the bar for the humans.
Royce and Isabella were arguably far better opponents than Harrigan was. If anything, '
Predator 2' probably represents the lowest quality of human opponents, so far: Random, disorganised gangsters high on drugs, a guy with a sword cane and... Harrigan.
QuoteThe skill level of both the Predators and the Humans has been lowered so far. That now some kid is supposedly going to defeat an alien killing machine with superior technology.
Just like every human character has had to. :)
Most of their weapons are basically mediaeval/tribal, regardless. Cloaking isn't complete invisibility and neon green blood is a huge exploitable weakness for tracking.
QuoteWorse. The lead isn't going to be an actual skilled warrior...soldier...cop...etc. She simply WANTS to be. A warrior. But she isn't yet. She is a noob even among her people.
That's the point of her character, I believe: She's mostly likely watched warriors, learned their ways and asked elders about techniques, etcetera. She's very probably even used those principles while hunting (or perhaps defending herself and others from dangerous wildlife). She's just not allowed to officially take up the official role of a warrior in their enclosed society.
It's like if you'd used flight simulators all your life, but failed to qualify for the air force because of some trivial medical reason or legal status thing. You'd have the knowledge, just wouldn't be able to be in the actual military. But if a Ukraine-style disaster happened? The shit's hit the fan and maybe those skills you've self-taught yourself finally come in useful.
Which is what I predict will occur here: The tribe will find itself in danger, the warriors go out to kill it and all get slaughtered, leaving her having to use her various skills.
QuoteAlso... the Comanche didn't have female warriors. It's historically insulting.
But that's the point, yes? They're an exception to the rule. Most tribes had female warriors, Comanche did not. Hence, it's historically authentic.
She may even be aware of that dichotomy and feel some resentment because of it, knowing other tribes allowed it. Nothing wrong with that and it adds to her motivation.
QuotePeople loved Ellen Ripley, Leia Organa, Arwen and Lara Croft. There aren't issues women leading a cool thing, provided the casting and character herself serves the actual story, not some dipshit studio execs whims.
We already have a precedent for this: Machiko.
Machiko isn't a warrior, but she has ethnic heritage which reminds her of stories from her youth. She's forged from a corporate executive to a veritable Rambo - and all she has is a simple handgun.
Did we fling up our hands when that happened? No, because it was done well. Machiko is relatable. Like Ripley, she's forced, by circumstances, to take action.
That's what will happen here. Naru is going to be forced into action and she'll have the necessary skills and motivation to do it.
And what happens to all those warriors in her tribe will inform her of the same thing Machiko knew: Let yourself get close and you're dead (no matter who or what you are). Deal with it like a bear, because that's the only way you - and your people - are going to survive.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMIt's because she looks like a goddamn teenager.
And? Looks like one and is one are two different things, last I recall they upped her age to be either 19 or 22. Someone gotta help me find that quote, I don't have it at hand at the moment.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMEvery single Predator Film has lowered the bar for the humans.
Only The Predator did, we had Super Predators and criminals/mercenaries in the third film. The second film had one determined cop on a vengeance after killing his people and traumatizing one. And before you say anything about him being 40, I seen 40 year olds beat down folks younger then them due to pure fighting experience and technique. Not to mention that some can keep up with others, I mean look at Mike Tyson for example, old but can still kick both our asses, true shit. If its over 50 then yes I would agree about something not being right about that but again, technicalities.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMThe skill level of both the Predators and the Humans has been lowered so far. That now some kid is supposedly going to defeat an alien killing machine with superior technology.
The first Predator film would like to have a word with you.......
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMWorse. The lead isn't going to be an actual skilled warrior...soldier...cop...etc. She simply WANTS to be. A warrior. But she isn't yet. She is a noob even among her people.
Synopsis keeps changing from she wants to be, to she is as we see in the recent synopsis. So again, any evidence to the contrary is greatly appreciated.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMAlso... the Comanche didn't have female warriors. It's historically insulting.
QuoteThe filmmakers were committed to creating a film that provides an accurate portrayal of the Comanche and brings a level of authenticity that rings true to its Indigenous peoples. Myers, an acclaimed filmmaker, Sundance Fellow and member of the Comanche nation herself, is known for her attention and dedication to films surrounding the Comanche and Blackfeet nations and her passion for honoring the legacies of the Native communities. As a result, the film features a cast comprised almost entirely of Native and First Nation's talent, including Amber Midthunder ("The Ice Road," "Roswell, New Mexico"), newcomer Dakota Beavers, Stormee Kipp ("Sooyii"), Michelle Thrush ("The Journey Home"), Julian Black Antelope ("Tribal").
If the tribe worked on this and allowed this, it means they know something about their own history than you do, so obviously there was some kind of female warrior that existed in their history at point in time. Don't speak for them.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 01:57:07 AMPeople loved Ellen Ripley, Leia Organa, Arwen and Lara Croft. There aren't issues women leading a cool thing, provided the casting and character herself serves the actual story, not some dipshit studio execs whims.
Back then, studio execs didn't want many female leading roles, as they believed they couldn't carry films and the usual sexist shit. Nowadays people are saying soy boy shit about SJWs ruining media cuz "WHAMAN IN MEH MOVIZ", how about people can just stfu and see the film carry itself on its own merits. f**king hell, you are part of the problem in all of this, deadass
The Comanche also didn't fight alien hunters, is that "historically insulting"?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 18, 2022, 06:28:31 PMso obviously there was some kind of female warrior that existed in their history at point in time.
Doubt.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 18, 2022, 06:28:31 PMDon't speak for them.
Not doing for them.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 18, 2022, 06:28:31 PMhow about people can just stfu
Because people are allowed to express their opinion about upcoming movies, isn't it what this forum is for? On anything, there can be both positive and negative opinions and I don't get why some people get so defensive over certain comments. Like you don't see me quoting and replying to everyone that disagrees with me here. You need to be more open about the diversity of opinions.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 18, 2022, 06:28:31 PMand see the film carry itself on its own merits.
I seen this pattern enough.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 18, 2022, 06:28:31 PMf**king hell, you are part of the problem in all of this, deadass
Fine.
You've already been provided historical proof that Comanche women fought as fiercely as the men and you're still doubting it?
You don't actually have a point, you just want to complain.
Danny Glover is super tall at 6 foot 3 (around 190cm for us metric people).
I agree with Vyce here.
https://twitter.com/VyceVictus/status/1330277220431040512
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2022, 01:12:52 AMDidn't slow him down at all? He needed emergency medical aide and was ready to blow himself up the next time Harrigan put him in a tough spot. Dude was f**ked up plenty.
I literally laughed out loud reading this reply. Yeah, City Hunter was in rough shape.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 18, 2022, 06:56:05 PMThe Comanche also didn't fight alien hunters, is that "historically insulting"?
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Quote from: GreybackElder on May 18, 2022, 08:44:31 PMQuote from: SiL on May 18, 2022, 01:12:52 AMDidn't slow him down at all? He needed emergency medical aide and was ready to blow himself up the next time Harrigan put him in a tough spot. Dude was f**ked up plenty.
I literally laughed out loud reading this reply. Yeah, City Hunter was in rough shape.
I mean, 9 shotgun blasts at point blank range...I'm surprised he wasn't torn in half honestly. For him to be even still standing kind of shows what beefy creatures they are. If it was a human, yikes.
Not all of them are direct hits, but yes, any of those would kill or at least incapacitate a human.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 07:00:25 PMDoubt.
Source?
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 07:00:25 PMNot doing for them.
Sure sounded like you did, "Its historically insulting"
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 07:00:25 PMBecause people are allowed to express their opinion about upcoming movies, isn't it what this forum is for? On anything, there can be both positive and negative opinions and I don't get why some people get so defensive over certain comments. Like you don't see me quoting and replying to everyone that disagrees with me here. You need to be more open about the diversity of opinions.
As if hearing "WHAMEN LEAD???!!! REEEEEEEEE" is a very diverse opinion that was never said in the past century. Also, anyone can criticize and discuss opinions here, just like they can criticize my thoughts and opinions just as well, so don't be defensive when people analyze your thoughts I think?
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 18, 2022, 07:00:25 PMI seen this pattern enough.
As Xenomorphine said, The Predator failed in that regard only, while at least the conflict in the first three films were on par, Predator vs Special Forces, criminals and one determined police officer, and dangerous/violent criminals/mercenaries.
Doesn't matter what gender is holding the bow, Predators are tough but still mortal. Without a bio-mask, an arrow to the face would probably kill it.
Predator getting an arrow to his f**king face is a visual I wouldn't mind seeing
I think it's well shot but it also has a "straight to DVD" kinda look to it. Hoping for the best, however, because it's an interesting take.
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2022, 02:56:04 AMQuoteThat now some kid is supposedly going to defeat an alien killing machine with superior technology.
The original was defeated by accidentally standing in the wrong spot.
It's almost like it's always been the point that innate human ingenuity and wit has been more valuable than our technology and strength.
Calling it now. She beats the predator with a bear/sasquatch. No logs this time, she just straight up lures the Predator into a bigger opponent's territory.
Human ingenuity and local knowledge.
What about an arrow to the knee?
He used to be a Predator until...
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 18, 2022, 04:50:55 PMRoyce and Isabella were arguably far better opponents than Harrigan was. If anything, 'Predator 2' probably represents the lowest quality of human opponents, so far: Random, disorganised gangsters high on drugs, a guy with a sword cane and... Harrigan.
Don't you put my man Harrigan down, Eric! >:(
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May 22, 2022, 07:20:09 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 19, 2022, 01:34:07 PMDo you just always have a folder of shirtless Danny Glover pics?
More a couple of hard drives worth that I take with me wherever I go.
A couple of terabytes. ;D
Quote from: PsyKore on May 19, 2022, 10:27:35 AMI think it's well shot but it also has a "straight to DVD" kinda look to it.
I really don't understand how people are getting that from all of 30 seconds of footage.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 19, 2022, 03:55:30 PMQuote from: PsyKore on May 19, 2022, 10:27:35 AMI think it's well shot but it also has a "straight to DVD" kinda look to it.
I really don't understand how people are getting that from all of 30 seconds of footage.
The shot composition and cinematography.
Quote from: St_Eddie on May 19, 2022, 04:29:17 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 19, 2022, 03:55:30 PMQuote from: PsyKore on May 19, 2022, 10:27:35 AMI think it's well shot but it also has a "straight to DVD" kinda look to it.
I really don't understand how people are getting that from all of 30 seconds of footage.
The shot composition and cinematography.
Idk those both look good to me from what little is shown.
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 19, 2022, 06:33:49 PMIdk those both look good to me from what little is shown.
That's fair enough. I was just explaining why I and a few other people are getting a straight-to-streaming/TV movie vibe from the visuals (which obviously the film
is, technically speaking but one might have hoped that it didn't nessercerily have to look that way aesthetically). It's grand that some aren't getting that vibe at all from the brief teaser but it's certainly what it immediately looked like to me (kinda flat and distinctly uncinematic).
Quote from: St_Eddie on May 19, 2022, 04:29:17 PMThe shot composition and cinematography.
Perhaps I should've been more specific - I really don't see what about those two/three shots included in the teaser screamed budget/DTV.
Plus, you know, it's two/three brief shots totalling about 30 seconds of intentionally innocuous footage out of the entire movie. Just seems like a massive leap to me.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 19, 2022, 09:35:52 PMPerhaps I should've been more specific - I really don't see what about those two/three shots included in the teaser screamed budget/DTV.
Again; the shot composition and cinematography.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 19, 2022, 09:35:52 PMPlus, you know, it's two/three brief shots totalling about 30 seconds of intentionally innocuous footage out of the entire movie. Just seems like a massive leap to me.
Well, naturally. I don't think anyone is making sweeping claims about the movie as a whole, nor have they claimed to be. Everyone here is just giving their initial thoughts in regards to some early teaser trailer footage. I wasn't alone in having a reaction of it very much looking like a made-for-streaming film. It's one of the first thoughts which entered my mind upon seeing the footage. I'm pleased that you didn't share that thought but that doesn't invalidate other people's reactions, any more than their reactions invalidate yours.
There is nothing wrong or "direct to TV" about the shot compositions.
"The cinematography" is so uselessly vague as a reason. What about it is direct to video?
The heavy orange on the colour grade is the only thing that makes any of it look cheap to me, like they just cranked the temperature for a golden hour glow, but I've seen worse in cinema.
Quote from: SiL on May 19, 2022, 10:46:11 PMThere is nothing wrong or "direct to TV" about the shot compositions.
...in your opinion. Not in mine. As I previously said; I felt that the footage looked very uncinematic,
in my opinion. Obviously your millage may vary.
Quote from: SiL on May 19, 2022, 10:46:11 PM"The cinematography" is so uselessly vague as a reason. What about it is direct to video?
The heavy orange on the colour grade is the only thing that makes any of it look cheap to me, like they just cranked the temperature for a golden hour glow, but I've seen worse in cinema.
I can throw all the technical jargon in the world your way and it's not going to convince you of seeing something that you can't see, nor would I care to. Equally, nothing you say is going to invalidate my own subjective response. It's a response I had. It happened. It is valid, by mere virtue of the thought entering my mind. You can't say
"something in your brain made you think that the footage looked like a straight-to-streaming film. Your brain is wrong and you imagined that you thought that because it's just not possible." Your mind is not my own. I think what I think and my opinion is as valid as your own. You seem to be struggling to appreciate that not everyone thinks the same way as yourself, or has the same reactions to stimuli.
It also bears repeating that this is literally a straight-to-streaming film, so it seems daft to say that there's no possible way that this literal thing looks like said literal thing.
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I really like this shot tbh
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I really like this shot tbh
STRAIGHT TO
DVD STREAMING, 0/10, IT SUCKS
Quote from: St_Eddie on May 19, 2022, 10:58:30 PM...in your opinion. Not in mine. As I previously said; I felt that the footage looked very uncinematic, in my opinion. Obviously your millage may vary.
There is no such thing as "uncinematic" composition, is the point. It's a completely absurd claim.
QuoteI can throw all the technical jargon in the world your way and it's not going to convince you of seeing something that you can't see, nor would I care to.
I'm a film editor by trade, I would love to hear your technical assessment, actually.
Quote from: SiL on May 20, 2022, 12:33:18 AMThere is no such thing as "uncinematic" composition, is the point. It's a completely absurd claim.
There's no difference between the presentation of a cinematic movie and, say, a day time soap opera? Um, okay then.
Quote from: SiL on May 20, 2022, 12:33:18 AMI'm a film editor by trade...
Why is that relevant?
You keep saying "composition" and I'm increasingly unconvinced that the word means what you think it means.
There's nothing wrong with the composition of your typical soap opera, their cinematography is better composed than many cinema releases films.
Quote from: SiL on May 20, 2022, 01:31:28 AMYou keep saying "composition" and I'm increasingly unconvinced that the word means what you think it means.
There's nothing wrong with the composition of your typical soap opera, their cinematography is better composed than many cinema releases films.
Okay but the fact remains that I and others thought that the footage very much looked like a straight-to-streaming film. There's a reason for that, regardless of the technical jargon employed to explain it.
Then why use technical jargon you don't understand? Just call it a feeling.
Quote from: SiL on May 20, 2022, 04:35:32 AMThen why use technical jargon you don't understand? Just call it a feeling.
Fine; it's a feeling. Does that make you happy now (despite the fact I actually do fully understand what cinematography is and the terminology was correct for what I was describing)? Does that satisfy the Grand Poobah?
Quote from: St_Eddie on May 19, 2022, 09:48:09 PMI don't think anyone is making sweeping claims about the movie as a whole, nor have they claimed to be.
I have absolutely seen people doing that.
And given that you don't really seem to have explained
why you think this film looks cheap and unprofessional - I've definitely seen films, on TV or otherwise, where I get the impression the cameraman doesn't know how to set up an aesthetically pleasing shot to save his life.
I absolutely don't get that feeling from anything in this tester trailer. I'd love to know where you did. (And I'm not being patronising; I really would love to know what you're seeing that I'm not.)
The last couple pages of this thread have taken a year off my life, I'm sure of it.
Hey everybody! I am a little bit late, but does anybody have information about when the Full Trailer will be released?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 20, 2022, 11:32:11 AMI absolutely don't get that feeling from anything in this tester trailer. I'd love to know where you did. (And I'm not being patronising; I really would love to know what you're seeing that I'm not.)
It's the cinematography, which lacks depth in my opinion. It looks kinda flat. That and the muted colours and possibly the fact that it looks to be shot on digital. It lacks the texture which I commonly associate with the theatrical Predator movies. It very much looks like a straight-to-streaming film (which it is) to my eyes, at least going by this brief snippet of footage.
I've never associated digital filming with DTV movies myself, but maybe that's just because I'm such a fan of Michael Mann.
Similarly Band of Brothers intentionally used a very muted colour palette to evoke a sense of time and place, and that show looked anything but cheap. Maybe they're just doing something similar here.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 20, 2022, 12:00:11 PMI've never associated digital filming with DTV movies myself, but maybe that's just because I'm such a fan of Michael Mann.
Similarly Band of Brothers intentionally used a very muted colour palette to evoke a sense of time and place, and that show looked anything but cheap. Maybe they're just doing something similar here.
I'm aware that digital is primarily how movies are shot these days and it can be done well (the technology has come along way) and indeed, muted colours can be used effectively. It's a matter of personal taste. I wasn't speaking for anyone else when I said that I thought that the footage looked straight-to-streaming. It's just my own subjective opinion, as it's absolutely what the footage reminded me of.
I was happy when I saw the teaser for this the other day. I think it's given me a lot more confidence in the film - I just hope the practical fx and suits are up to scratch.
Also I think it's a crying shame that Trachtenberg's secret reveal was spoiled. Could you imagine watching the trailer for a film called Prey and seeing some young Native American girl sprining for her life? First thoughts would be some horrendous "Custer's gone Wild" type scenario. Then for the minor jump scare where she's "rescued" by a clan member. And then the dot sight reveal! It would've been so Left field and amazing.
I just hope they don't turn out to be Billy's ancestors and they focus on the supernatural "powers" he has in the novelisation of the original.
Wait... So it's not coming to theaters?
It's coming to home theaters.
Quote from: Kradan on May 19, 2022, 07:04:42 AMPredator getting an arrow to his f**king face is a visual I wouldn't mind seeing
Seeing the Predator painfully pull an arrow from its eye then angrily snapping the arrow and roaring at Naru is such a raw scene that I wanna see.
Unlike the previous movies, there isn't any noticable bad mistake yet.Maybe the fact that they've used the good old sound effect of the laser is a good sign, maybe our predator won't be another useless crabator this time.Better yet, the Grayback theory is still possible, and the best way to go.
The countryside setting can easily give a sensation of cheapness,I think that's why
so many people reacted by saying it looks like low budget.It will be all about the artistic direction, and the music or its absence.That I cannot judge on this teaser alone. Fingers crossed.
Teaser looks good so far. Hopefully there's lots of atmosphere and tension this time around.
I'm also really hoping the predator looks great. Obviously I want the film to be good first and foremost, clearly that's the most important thing. But man, I'm personally really over ADI predators.
I'm sure Trachtenberg had specific ideas for the design, but after 3 previous films I just don't see ADI changing their approach to their mouth / mandibles.
I really like what I'm seeing here. The teaser did greatly what it had to do, tease. Hoping they don't show too much after that.
There will possibly (probably ?) be only one big trailer after that considering we're close enough to the release date and I'm fine with that.
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 21, 2022, 05:10:47 PMThe countryside setting can easily give a sensation of cheapness,I think that's why
so many people reacted by saying it looks like low budget
Shock, horror, setting a movie in America looks like a lot of other movies we've seen before. It has sometimes been a sign of a low budget, but it's also entirely appropriate here. As you're implying, it's a not entirely fair association.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 17, 2022, 04:20:52 PMI am f**king loving all the people complaining that the idea of defeating a Predator with bows and arrows is stupid... even though that's exactly what Arnie did in the first film they revere so much :laugh:
The spear and the arrow Dutch used had explosives attached to it, hence how the predator was wounded and his cloacking device damaged.So I don't get your point.
Predator was literally defeated by a log. A log
Quote from: Kradan on May 29, 2022, 07:55:50 PMPredator was literally defeated by a log. A log
And really, the actual implement doesn't matter. The main predator in the first 3 movies (I'm ignoring The Predator because f**k that movie) was defeated by the main characters intelligence and I always thought that was kind of the point
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 29, 2022, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 17, 2022, 04:20:52 PMI am f**king loving all the people complaining that the idea of defeating a Predator with bows and arrows is stupid... even though that's exactly what Arnie did in the first film they revere so much :laugh:
The spear and the arrow Dutch used had explosives attached to it, hence how the predator was wounded and his cloacking device damaged.So I don't get your point.
Quote from: Kradan on May 29, 2022, 07:55:50 PMPredator was literally defeated by a log. A log
Defeated by a trap using a log, but you have to put that log up in the trees.
Same problem.Frankly it's better if the predator don't die this time in my opinion.
Quote from: Kradan on May 29, 2022, 07:55:50 PMPredator was literally defeated by a log. A log
Did the log fistfight the Predator? Or was it a duel with swords?
It was a pistol duel
Quote from: Kradan on May 29, 2022, 11:11:35 PMIt was a pistol duel
Ah, cool, we got a much different cut stateside where Dutch actually defeated the Predator. ;D
Quote from: Doomofman on May 29, 2022, 08:13:46 PMQuote from: Kradan on May 29, 2022, 07:55:50 PMPredator was literally defeated by a log. A log
And really, the actual implement doesn't matter. The main predator in the first 3 movies (I'm ignoring The Predator because f**k that movie) was defeated by the main characters intelligence and I always thought that was kind of the point
I think it was more than just the intelligence - Dutch had pure luck on his side, Jungle Hunter saw the trap and side-stepped it, but still ended up in the right spot. Harrigan had City Hunter's arrogance in leaving himself open like that. Royce had a bit of team work in place too, with Isabelle.
It's a big part of how the Predators get defeated, but it does always come down to the back-to-basics approach which is why I've always felt a historical setting would be ideal. It's not like the actual things that defeated the Predator are future warefare.
I guess it's a mix of things coming from the protagonists. Resilience, ruse, and of course luck.
Dutch is pretty lucky with the log at the end, and is very lucky when discovering that mud does him a big favor against jungle hunter.
Yeah, there is usually always some luck involved in these movies where the protagonist is so unevenly matched with an antagonist. You still don't say luck defeated the villian. You say the protagonist defeated the villian. Dutch had the resourcefulness and was quick-thinking enough that even when things were bleak, to use the load of the pulley system against the Predator to win. The log did not fall by accident. Never stop fighting until the fight is over.
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 29, 2022, 07:41:11 PMThe spear and the arrow Dutch used had explosives attached to it, hence how the predator was wounded and his cloacking device damaged.So I don't get your point.
You know what else damages a cloaking device? Water. Do we think Native Americans had water?
As for the Predator itself, neither explosive weapon seemed to do much damage beyond annoying it. They certainly didn't slow it down any.
As others have pointed out, Arnie ultimately finished it off with a piece of wood.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 30, 2022, 02:00:17 PMQuote from: Yautja888 on May 29, 2022, 07:41:11 PMThe spear and the arrow Dutch used had explosives attached to it, hence how the predator was wounded and his cloacking device damaged.So I don't get your point.
You know what else damages a cloaking device? Water. Do we think Native Americans had water?
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I never agreed to the argument (that I heard here and there) saying Comanches wouldn't be worthy adversaries for a predator in the first place.
It all depends on execution as always, a predator being defeated in a credible manner by a comanche young woman is totally plausible. There are a lot of ways for that to happen.
Ruse, resilience, knowledge of the terrain, and a good dose of luck among things.
I generally don't understand the negativity towards the idea that (a smaller) underdog can defeat the big bad. It's a well versed story telling trope (David vs Goliath). Isn't that the premise for most films though. Winning against all the odds with everything against the protagonist?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 30, 2022, 05:44:31 PMI never agreed to the argument (that I heard here and there) saying Comanches wouldn't be worthy adversaries for a predator in the first place.
It all depends on execution as always, a predator being defeated in a credible manner by a comanche young woman is totally plausible. There are a lot of ways for that to happen.
Ruse, resilience, knowledge of the terrain, and a good dose of luck among things.
Hell you can apply this to anything in the past really. What can a samurai do to a Predator that not only outclasses them physically but also technologically? Katana steel isn't that strong and would perhaps shatter in combat against alien alloy steel that the wristblades or its armor are made from, and despite being masters of the bow, nothing compared to a plasmacaster. Spartan brawn and bronze metal will still stand no chance for the same reasons, Zulu warriors, Knights Templar, or 19th century French Foreign Legion, all of them fall into the same argument when you think about it overall. But most people don't think that, and we all know why, hence why else would they point out the fact that the protag is a woman so much?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 30, 2022, 12:28:12 PMYeah, there is usually always some luck involved in these movies where the protagonist is so unevenly matched with an antagonist. You still don't say luck defeated the villian. You say the protagonist defeated the villian. Dutch had the resourcefulness and was quick-thinking enough that even when things were bleak, to use the load of the pulley system against the Predator to win. The log did not fall by accident. Never stop fighting until the fight is over.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 30, 2022, 02:00:17 PMQuote from: Yautja888 on May 29, 2022, 07:41:11 PMThe spear and the arrow Dutch used had explosives attached to it, hence how the predator was wounded and his cloacking device damaged.So I don't get your point.
You know what else damages a cloaking device? Water. Do we think Native Americans had water?
As for the Predator itself, neither explosive weapon seemed to do much damage beyond annoying it. They certainly didn't slow it down any.
As others have pointed out, Arnie ultimately finished it off with a piece of wood.
I would never say luck killed the Jungle Hunter, but it was far more a factor than in any of the other films. Dutch lays his traps, tries to funnel the Predator a specific way, the Predator notices and goes around, and still ends up in the exact same place Dutch wanted him to be anyway. Had the film shown Dutch intending for that to happen, I'd say it was less of a factor.
And sure, Dutch still needed to be aware of the positioning and everything but it doesn't change the convivence of it. I think I'm always going to consider that luck played a far larger role there than the other films (and even the Alien films).
But it's all more to the point that there's many different factors that contribute towards the Predators defeat in the first three films, with a lot of it coming down to simply being a very back-to-basics approach. And I don't think anyone here is arguing against that? I think that's generally other areas of the interwebz.
I think the thing a lot of the "Native Americans couldn't beat a Predator!" crowd are overlooking is the fact that the Predator in the first film could've annihilated Arnie's entire team in a couple of minutes if it had wanted to. It chose not to.
Sure, a Predator could make mincemeat of a tribe of Comanches without breaking a sweat. But where's the challenge or fun in that?
Exactly. Pride and arrogance are also a big thing with predators , all the time participating in their downfall.
Predators aren't interested in killing. They're interested in hunting. Which involves killing, but it'a process.
Quote from: SiL on May 31, 2022, 11:41:04 AMPredators aren't interested in killing. They're interested in hunting. Which involves killing, but it'a process.
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Quote from: Master Chief :P on May 31, 2022, 01:47:20 PMQuote from: SiL on May 31, 2022, 11:41:04 AMPredators aren't interested in killing. They're interested in hunting. Which involves killing, but it'a process.
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You know what I mean :P Yes he butchered a lot of people en masse, but his prize was Harrigan - whom he could have killed easily at many points, but didn't.
Predators aren't just here to slaughter as many people as possible as quickly as possible. They want the hunting process.
Although sure I guess some want both.
Quote from: Master Chief on May 31, 2022, 01:47:20 PMQuote from: SiL on May 31, 2022, 11:41:04 AMPredators aren't interested in killing. They're interested in hunting. Which involves killing, but it'a process.
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*cough* *cough* *cough* bad blood *cough* *cough*
Nah, he's just a bit of a c**t
I am really looking forward to Prey. It will be cool to see a historical setting of native Americans vs a yautja.
The Comanche were know as fierce warriors so it is fitting that a predator would take interest.
As for people who are upset that it is a woman, I have confidence that they will do her justice. She will not become a Mary Sue or a disney Pocahontas. She will likely be a well fleshed out character. She will probably use her brains and find a way to win. Same kind thing that Dutch did. He was using a bow and arrow too and in the end outwitted it with a trap.
That or at least team up at the end vs a second foe, after earning each other's respect (if it is Greyback since he is alive as of Predator 2).
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 01, 2022, 04:00:00 PMThat or at least team up at the end vs a second foe
Please god no more of that.
Finally showed this to my dad. He has a soft spot for all things indians. I think he liked it
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 02, 2022, 02:47:05 PMQuote from: shadowedge on Jun 01, 2022, 04:00:00 PMThat or at least team up at the end vs a second foe
Please god no more of that.
Prefer a settler and Comanche alliance vs Predator if we had to go with the team up route. But yes, I think everyone doesn't want a Predator and human team up anymore, its been overdone in media for too long.
Interspecies alliance? ;D
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 02, 2022, 04:27:39 PMInterspecies alliance? ;D
Spoiler
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I'm not going to lie, if a Sasquatch really does show up and if the idea is executed properly, it would be one of the best kept twists in recent memory.
I was thinking it might start with native Americans vs big foot then the predator comes and kills Bigfoot. It ends with the Predator teaming up with the main Comanche woman against a 3rd party, likely colonizers and that is how Greyback gets the pistol that he gave to Harrigan.
Then takes her on his ship to be trained in the yautja ways like AVP Prey. If it is greyback then we know that he does not due since he is in Predator 2 and it is likely that the Comanche main character lives too. Maybe he is impressed with the way she fought or some of their tactics used so he brings her oboard to learn more of their ways to make themselves better hunters since the Comanche were so good at tracking and stuff.
That way all sides get something positive out of the movie. It doesn't disrespect native Americans and fans of Predator finally get one that lives.
But movies and comics are a totally different ballgame. What may sounds cool in a comic may very well look ridiculous and obnoxious in a movie. That's a big risk I'm not willing to take anymore.
What if Predators can time travel
Please no.
I think my biggest concern is that they play things too safe and it ends up feeling like a rehash of how the first movie plays out.
Otherwise I'm pretty hyped to see what they do with this; I really like Trachtenberg's work so that's keeping me optimistic. I really want a gnarly looking predator design in this; as amazing as Jungle Hunter's look is I hope the craft one that is much more primal and menacing looking. I also want to see them play up on some Native American shamanism.