What was your first experience with each film?

Started by Traveler37, Sep 23, 2024, 05:36:53 PM

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Traveler37

What was your first experience with each film?

Alien: I'm pretty sure I first saw this on VHS, then proper on DVD, and again on Blu-ray which is also when I first got to see Ridley's Director's Cut.
Aliens: First saw this on TV, then the Special Edition on VHS. On DVD, I got to see both cuts and see how they were different. Not much to say about the Blu-ray other than both cuts look eve better than the DVD.
Alien 3: Like Aliens, first saw this on TV, then DVD. On Blu-ray, it looked so much better. Watching the Assembly Cut, it's like I was watching the movie for the first time all over again! I like the both cuts, but the Assembly Cut is far superior, but I hate that the Queen chestbursting scene was left out. It's the only change I did not like.
Alien Resurrection: I saw this on VHS for the first time when I was 13 or 14 with my mom. When the Queen was giving birth, we paused it, and my mom was like, why are we watching this? I was like, I dunno. She's like, OK, play it. LMAO After she and I had seen all 4 films, I forget which Christmas, but she got me the "Alien Legacy" DVD box set, the 4-disc one. When I got my Alien Anthology 6-disc Blu-ray, I gave that box set to a friend (also an Alien fan) who was thrilled.

Alien vs. Predator: My dad bought this on DVD for me one Christmas soon after it came out in theaters, it was like the ONE time he watched any of these with me, because it was advertised as more of an action film than horror. I loved it.
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem: Missed this at the theater too, first saw it on DVD. First time I felt like "I can see everything" was the Blu-ray. Dark as hell, but Blu-ray + HDTV, and you can see if it's 2am. LMAO

Prometheus: First "Alien" film at the theater, went with a friend. My mom wanted to see it, but she couldn't go, recovering from a stroke. She wanted to hear all about it. Sadly, she passed soon after.
Alien Covenant: I saw this one at the theater with a friend. We had a sarcastic running commentary about how the film was awesome, but the characters were dumb. We really liked the movie despite the dumb character decisions. LOL Very memorable. I loved watching it on Blu-ray, because the special features add soooooo much to the movie.

As for Romulus, it's leaving my local theater, and my car's still broke. It's see it this week or wait for Hulu.  :o

Elmazalman

Saw ALIEN on a panned & scanned VHS rental tape at a friend's in late 1983. Loved it! Even if I did know all of the film's surprises (having seen the photo book and the comic adaptation the previous year).

Saw ALIENS on a panned & scanned Betamax rental tape in 1987. Liked the film, but thought it was too long. This was the 1986 theatrical cut.

Saw ALIEN3 at the cinema in 1992. Thought it was sh*t. Still do.

Saw ALIEN RESURRECTION at the cinema (either 1997 or 1998?). Again, thought it was shit.

Saw ALIEN: THE DIRECTOR'S CUT at the cinema in late 2003 (in time for Halloween). There was a problem with the projector, so I had the choice of watching it another day, or waiting a couple of hours for the next screening. I chose to wait. I saw it and enjoyed it - but wished more material was added back in. I didn't like any of the trims to the existing scenes.

Saw PROMETHEUS at the cinema. Thought it was okay.

Saw ALIEN COVENANT at the cinema. Thought it was weaker than PROMETHEUS, but still entertaining.

ALIEN ROMULUS. Pass. I didn't bother going. 

Traveler37

Quote from: Elmazalman on Sep 23, 2024, 06:11:48 PMSaw ALIEN on a panned & scanned VHS rental tape at a friend's in late 1983. Loved it! Even if I did know all of the film's surprises (having seen the photo book and the comic adaptation the previous year).

Saw ALIENS on a panned & scanned Betamax rental tape in 1987. Liked the film, but thought it was too long. This was the 1986 theatrical cut.

Saw ALIEN3 at the cinema in 1992. Thought it was sh*t. Still do.

Saw ALIEN RESURRECTION at the cinema (either 1997 or 1998?). Again, thought it was shit.

Saw ALIEN: THE DIRECTOR'S CUT at the cinema in late 2003 (in time for Halloween). There was a problem with the projector, so I had the choice of watching it another day, or waiting a couple of hours for the next screening. I chose to wait. I saw it and enjoyed it - but wished more material was added back in. I didn't like any of the trims to the existing scenes.

Saw PROMETHEUS at the cinema. Thought it was okay.

Saw ALIEN COVENANT at the cinema. Thought it was weaker than PROMETHEUS, but still entertaining.

ALIEN ROMULUS. Pass. I didn't bother going. 
Being older, do you still find Aliens too long? How do you feel about the Special Editon cut? Again, now that you're older, do you still think A3-4 are crap? I feel the same what about Alien's Director's Cut. I liked the additions, but I didn't like that stuff was cut out. Because there are trims, I prefer the theatrical cut; BUT I love that my Alien Anthology Blu-ray set has both cuts of all 4 films, giving me options.

What did you think of Scott's overall attempt across two films to explore the origin of the xenomorph?
If I may ask, why did you decide to pass on Romulus?

BlueMarsalis79

He said still do, also this thread already exists, again.

Elmazalman

Quote from: Traveler37 on Sep 23, 2024, 06:42:02 PMBeing older, do you still find Aliens too long? How do you feel about the Special Editon cut? Again, now that you're older, do you still think A3-4 are crap? I feel the same what about Alien's Director's Cut. I liked the additions, but I didn't like that stuff was cut out. Because there are trims, I prefer the theatrical cut; BUT I love that my Alien Anthology Blu-ray set has both cuts of all 4 films, giving me options.

What did you think of Scott's overall attempt across two films to explore the origin of the xenomorph?
If I may ask, why did you decide to pass on Romulus?

I have a longer attention span now than I did in 1987 - but - I still think ALIENS could use some tightening up.
I do like the 1991 ALIENS SE more, but there's a lot of rubbish scenes reinstated - that were cut (rightfully) the first time.

Yes, A3 & A4 are still poor. Never took to either of them.

I would have liked ALIEN DC (a bit) more, if the additional scenes were dropped in without the trims.
The best thing about the DC, was the deleted scenes used, were now presented in the highest quality.
The 1979 theatrical cut is still the ideal version of the film, imo. None of the additions really fit; they mess with the pacing, the subtlety, and style (Alien transmission, Lambert's slap & Brett's death, respectively).
The "Cocoon" scene simply didn't fit (at all) - and why bother to include it, if it's going to be further edited (Ripley's dialogue). It was a mistake to shift its original placement (right after Ripley finding the mess left by the Alien in the storage/coolant locker).

I also love my ANTHOLOGY set. It'll probably never be surpassed for entertainment value. I was hoping for a 4K version of the set, but after the pathetic ALIENS 4K discs, forget it - and I don't really need another copy of A3 & A4.

I don't really care where Scott takes the Alien. We already know far too much about it, now. The problem I've always had with ALIEN was, I've never liked the idea of it being a bio-engineered weapon. I would've much preferred the "Big Chap" Alien to be a genuine alien life-form, discovered by the Space Jockeys, instead. It seemed less 'alien' and mysterious knowing that it was created in lab.

I passed on ROMULUS because it was lazy, uninspired sh*t. Apart from the "Big Chap" cocoon, and the wallgina birth scenes, there's nothing really of interest for me.

BeeHooKoo

BeeHooKoo

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ALIEN
I first saw it on Beta video in 1981. My brother had copied it from a Magnetic Video Corporation VHS video. I liked the movie, but at the time, I liked more action (sci-fi) movies, so I couldn't appreciate Alien's combination of horror and sci-fi. Later, a few years later and after a few rewatches, Alien opened up to me in a totally new way and I started to fall in love with the movie again and again with each viewing.

ALIENS
I saw it on VHS as a rental video in 1986. I really liked it, at the time I liked it more than the first '79 movie because of the action. Later in 1992 I saw a low quality VHS copy of the Special Edition version (copied from laserdisc), I liked it too.
At the end of the 1980s, I started collecting all kind of Alien material, books, cartoons, documents, magazines, etc.

ALIEN 3
I saw it in the cinema in 1992, it was a disappointment compared to expectations. I was expecting a sci-fi movie and it wasn't a sci-fi movie as I saw it. Somehow all the sci-fi elements, the continuation of the plot from the movie Aliens are lost, and also the heroes except for Ripley die during the opening credits - that's it.
Later I saw a VHS copy of the workprint version of the film, which was naturally exciting to see, but it didn't improve my experience of the film.

ALIEN RESURRECTION
I saw it at the cinema premiere in 1997. The movie was really bad, I was so disappointed and angry that I wanted to leave in the middle of the screening. The movie is crap.

ALIEN QUADRILOGY
I bought the Alien Quadrilogy DVD set as soon as it came out in 2003, it was and still is the best and most watched DVD set I've ever bought.
Alien, Directors cut: I liked and still like very much. Only Cocoon scene is poorly executed compared to the book and the script. I can't decide which is better, the theatrical version or the DC, I like them both.
Aliens, Special Edition: I saw it the first time in better quality and I liked it very much.
Alien 3, Special Edition: was a slight disappointment, I expected a lot from this version, because I didn't like the theatrical version so much. And in the end, turn out that I liked the theatrical version better than the SE version. After years, I have learned to appreciate the movie Alien 3 more, especially its execution is really good. But since I still don't see it as a sci-fi movie, the movie falls far short of Aliens and Alien.
Alien resurrection, Special Edition: when the movie is really bad to begin with, Special Edition cant save it, this is also the case with Resurrection. The movie is still pure 100% crap.

PROMETHEUS
I saw it in the cinema, at the premiere in 2012 and later again with 3D. I liked and still like the movie a lot as a sci-fi movie, but as an alien movie it was disappointing. I still feel that way. The film ruins the notions of space jockey and alien creation. In a sense, black goo gives imaginative freedom to all kinds of events, but I think it ruins and has ruined the whole concept of alien in some point of view.

ALIEN COVENANT
Saw at the cinema 2017. Much worse than Prometheus, but still much better than Resurrection. Still an ok sci-fi movie, bad alien movie. D8 + black goo + xenomorph creation = no, no and NO!

ALIEN ROMULUS
I saw it in the cinema, premiere now 2024. Ok sci-fi movie - ok alien movie. Lots of good things and some things what I didn't like. What annoyed me the most was the "wannabe-Alien-tribute" label of the movie, i.e. lots of quotes and features from old movies. The movie had some bad scenes, the movie was numbing to watch in some point and also the movie had perhaps one of the worst ending plot twists that any (alien) movie has had. The movie didn't give any kind of larger-than-life "wow" feeling to me. The movie was a little disappointing.
I'll have to watch the movie again when it comes out for streaming and see if my feelings about the movie change.

SM

Alien scary egg poster.

BeeHooKoo

Quote from: SM on Sep 27, 2024, 08:32:51 AMAlien scary egg poster.
Again, another unnecessary, pointless, off topic comment with no real content.

SM

Lol

Elmazalman

Quote from: BeeHooKoo on Sep 27, 2024, 08:30:34 AMALIEN
I first saw it on Beta video in 1981. My brother had copied it from a Magnetic Video Corporation VHS video. I liked the movie, but at the time, I liked more action (sci-fi) movies, so I couldn't appreciate Alien's combination of horror and sci-fi. Later, a few years later and after a few rewatches, Alien opened up to me in a totally new way and I started to fall in love with the movie again and again with each viewing.

ALIENS
I saw it on VHS as a rental video in 1986. I really liked it, at the time I liked it more than the first '79 movie because of the action. Later in 1992 I saw a low quality VHS copy of the Special Edition version (copied from laserdisc), I liked it too.
At the end of the 1980s, I started collecting all kind of Alien material, books, cartoons, documents, magazines, etc.

ALIEN 3
I saw it in the cinema in 1992, it was a disappointment compared to expectations. I was expecting a sci-fi movie and it wasn't a sci-fi movie as I saw it. Somehow all the sci-fi elements, the continuation of the plot from the movie Aliens are lost, and also the heroes except for Ripley die during the opening credits - that's it.
Later I saw a VHS copy of the workprint version of the film, which was naturally exciting to see, but it didn't improve my experience of the film.

ALIEN RESURRECTION
I saw it at the cinema premiere in 1997. The movie was really bad, I was so disappointed and angry that I wanted to leave in the middle of the screening. The movie is crap.

ALIEN QUADRILOGY
I bought the Alien Quadrilogy DVD set as soon as it came out in 2003, it was and still is the best and most watched DVD set I've ever bought.
Alien, Directors cut: I liked and still like very much. Only Cocoon scene is poorly executed compared to the book and the script. I can't decide which is better, the theatrical version or the DC, I like them both.
Aliens, Special Edition: I saw it the first time in better quality and I liked it very much.
Alien 3, Special Edition: was a slight disappointment, I expected a lot from this version, because I didn't like the theatrical version so much. And in the end, turn out that I liked the theatrical version better than the SE version. After years, I have learned to appreciate the movie Alien 3 more, especially its execution is really good. But since I still don't see it as a sci-fi movie, the movie falls far short of Aliens and Alien.
Alien resurrection, Special Edition: when the movie is really bad to begin with, Special Edition cant save it, this is also the case with Resurrection. The movie is still pure 100% crap.

PROMETHEUS
I saw it in the cinema, at the premiere in 2012 and later again with 3D. I liked and still like the movie a lot as a sci-fi movie, but as an alien movie it was disappointing. I still feel that way. The film ruins the notions of space jockey and alien creation. In a sense, black goo gives imaginative freedom to all kinds of events, but I think it ruins and has ruined the whole concept of alien in some point of view.

ALIEN COVENANT
Saw at the cinema 2017. Much worse than Prometheus, but still much better than Resurrection. Still an ok sci-fi movie, bad alien movie. D8 + black goo + xenomorph creation = no, no and NO!

ALIEN ROMULUS
I saw it in the cinema, premiere now 2024. Ok sci-fi movie - ok alien movie. Lots of good things and some things what I didn't like. What annoyed me the most was the "wannabe-Alien-tribute" label of the movie, i.e. lots of quotes and features from old movies. The movie had some bad scenes, the movie was numbing to watch in some point and also the movie had perhaps one of the worst ending plot twists that any (alien) movie has had. The movie didn't give any kind of larger-than-life "wow" feeling to me. The movie was a little disappointing.
I'll have to watch the movie again when it comes out for streaming and see if my feelings about the movie change.

I prefer to think of ALIEN (1979) as a horror film. It works better as a horror film (imo) than science fiction. The science in ALIEN is a little dodgy, whilst the horror is top-notch.

TC

Quote from: Elmazalman on Sep 29, 2024, 08:02:58 AMI prefer to think of ALIEN (1979) as a horror film. It works better as a horror film (imo) than science fiction. The science in ALIEN is a little dodgy, whilst the horror is top-notch.

I feel the opposite. I think of Alien primarily as sci-fi. The same with The Thing (Carpenter's film). OTOH Event Horizon I view as horror. (But of course, they're all a mixture of both.)

But WRT Alien being sci-fi: I accept that that's not really how Ridley Scott himself saw it. He and Giler are both on record saying they didn't read or even like science fiction. Thankfully, O'Bannon did and gave it a decent sci-fi underpinning.

TC

Oasis Nadrama

I fell in love with this universe immediately, as a little kid! I first liked the Kenner toys, then read some pages of the Alan Dean Foster Alien novelization, the chestburster scene specifically, and it was an EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE. Imagine reading this scene of extreme body horror as a little kid. I believe I was eight or nine (around 1993-1994). I immediately wanted to know more, to read more, to see more.
Then I saw Alien, AlienS soon after, both on VHS. Alien³ I first saw on TV, maybe in 1995?

I don't remember anything detailed about my perspective on these movies. I just loved them. I was enthralled, obsessed. The biomechanics haunted me, I became obsessed with H.R. Giger's work also (and in fact, pushed my parents to take me at a signature session in Paris, where I was able to gift him a fanfic and to get an artbook signed). I started drawing, writing, sculpting, playing, shooting even (with a little caméscope) Alien things. This universe shaped me so much as an artist, from a very young age - one of the very first sculptures I ever did was a facehugger, in paper, cardboard, glue and liquid latex.

When Alien: Resurrection came out, it was classified "Interdit aux moins de 12 ans" in France (NC-12). Luckily, I had just hit twelve! I was so excited! To see an Alien movie in theater! My grandpa took me, and back then, it was an EXTRAORDINARY EXPERIENCE. I never forgot how horrible and claustrophobic the whole sequence of the underwater trap and egg well looked, in particular, a complete trap set for our protagonists, a moment disgusting. I loved it to death.

(I remember from the start, AlienS was the one I liked the less, but I did not have an unified model of exhaustive AlienS criticism. I was a kid. To me AlienS was less rad than Alien and Alien³, but it was STILL rad. And I found Alien Resurrection just extraordinary.
Growing up then aging up, I gradually came to dislike AlienS, then Alien Resurrection, more and more, and to develop reasons behind my dislike.)

In 2003, I was 18, and I was lucky enough to see Alien (Director's Cut) on the silver screen. I rediscovered it, such an incredible experience. It cemented my conviction that each Alien movie is better experienced on the large screen, in a dark room full of people as captivated as you, in a kind of obscure ceremony to the impossible deities of the larger cosmos.

I never missed an Alien movie in theaters since, and I never will, no matter how large my worries are, no matter how disastrous the reviews.

I saw Alien vs. Predator next, and didn't like it, my first and final impression was it was a mediocre movie almost entirely devoid of inventivity. Then AVPR: Aliens vs. Predator – Requiem, which I absolutely HATED. Wrote a short article about my complete feelings on the flick, Alien VS Predator Requiem is shit, almost directly after leaving the theater. I was so mad. I'm still mad after all this time.

Prometheus I waited like the messiah, and was in the cinema DAY ONE, and it was AN INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE. I loved almost every minute of it, back then my only criticism was the mutant/zombified Fifield, which I still do not like at all both in design and role in the story(I call it Hangover Fifield). The grandiose, mystical and existential themes spoken to my soul. I absolutely loved, and still love, the way these human beings embark for the vastness of space in search of meaning, and find only DEATH. They want to know their origins, their reason to be here, their fate, and the answer is they are meat, biomass, meant to be used in larger biological processes they do not and cannot understand. This is such a good science fiction tragedy.
(I'm aware of the flaws in the screenplay. They didn't spoil the experience at all for me back then, and don't spoil it for me today.)

Alien: Covenant I waited impatiently. I was dissatisfied that Ridley decided to come back to the "Alien" label and annoyed about the presence of the title creature as well, to me it was an artistic regression. In 2017 already, I was convinced the way forward for the franchise was to drift AWAY from the classical beast - feeling I recently expressed in "The Alien is cooked": A Theory of Franchise Renaissance.
However, I still had HIGH HOPES for Alien: Covenant. Ridley was fantastical director, Prometheus was extraordinary, surely it would be as good as Prometheus, just with Aliens insides, right?
I came to see it in theaters day one, as well, as a gift to myself: in 2017, I had just moved in in a new city. A present. A treat. It was the spirit in which I entered the vast, dark room and took place on a seat.
I've never been this disappointed in a movie in my life.

And finally Alien: Romulus... Well, I watched this one day one, or almost day one. The theater wasn't very populated. It came out in France a few day before the USA, so I avoided almost all spoilers, particularly from the English-speaking Internet. An EXTREMELY LUCKY situation in this era of permanent overcommunication.
And I appreciated the movie.
It's still a very conformist movie in some ways, and too referential to my taste (I absolutely hate the way it quotes dialogues from the rest of the series), but it has great atmosphere and powerful moments.
I still don't entirely know what to think of Fede Álvarez's work. To me Alien: Romulus is absolutely STORIES above Alien: Covenant (let's not event talk about the AVP movies). I have a lot of affection for the movie, I find its atmosphere powerful. But do I like it? I don't know.

Looking forwards to the next experiences in cinema. No matter how painful sometimes, if you can see an Alien movie right in theater, right when it's released, I beg of you, GO SEE THE MOVIE. Don't wait for a Blu-ray or a simple file. Go receive the full impact of the piece. It is an unique and unforgettable moment.

SM

QuoteI prefer to think of ALIEN (1979) as a horror film. It works better as a horror film (imo) than science fiction. The science in ALIEN is a little dodgy, whilst the horror is top-notch.

It IS a horror film.

Elmazalman

Quote from: SM on Sep 30, 2024, 12:13:56 AM
QuoteI prefer to think of ALIEN (1979) as a horror film. It works better as a horror film (imo) than science fiction. The science in ALIEN is a little dodgy, whilst the horror is top-notch.

It IS a horror film.

A horror film - set in outer space, in the far future (with A.I.), would also make it science-fiction.

I know The Texas Chain Saw Massacre was an influence on the film - but so was 2001: A Space Odyssey and STAR WARS.

I still like to think of it as a horror film, though.


SM

Outer space is a setting.

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