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Posted by TheSailingRabbit
 - Nov 13, 2018, 01:33:21 PM
So . . . how're your days going?
Posted by TheSailingRabbit
 - Nov 12, 2018, 11:49:43 AM
Due to my technological ineptness, we're not seeing any photos of plastic Hudson and Bishop. Sorry.
Posted by whiterabbit
 - Nov 11, 2018, 07:08:22 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Nov 10, 2018, 10:54:59 PM
John Hurt holds the record for characters dying onscreen.  At 43 deaths, it's the official record outstripping Vincent Price, Bela Lugosi and Sean Bean.

...and he's been killed by an Alien, twice. 

Beat that Paxton!  Beat that Henriksen.  :P

-Windebieste.
Holy hell he even died as a rabbit in Watership Down. That is one of the most depressing kiddy movies ever made... no wonder he was hired to play Kane. :P

Posted by TheSailingRabbit
 - Nov 11, 2018, 01:26:07 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Nov 11, 2018, 01:21:21 AM
The  only  way  to  know  is  to  make  the  plastic  Hudson  and  Bishop  fight.

I'm gonna have to talk to a friend on Twitter for that. He's got both.

This might take awhile.
Posted by The Old One
 - Nov 11, 2018, 01:21:21 AM
The  only  way  to  know  is  to  make  the  plastic  Hudson  and  Bishop  fight.
Posted by TheSailingRabbit
 - Nov 11, 2018, 01:15:50 AM
That's fine. I made this for fun. Not demanding votes or claiming one's better than the other.
Posted by The Old One
 - Nov 11, 2018, 01:10:46 AM
Eh- they're relatable: both topics are unwinnable arguments.

Though I will say;
I won't even vote on the poll on the official topic-
because they're both such great people and actors.

Posted by Huggs
 - Nov 11, 2018, 01:04:56 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Nov 11, 2018, 12:48:10 AM
Until Ridley Scott kicks the bucket, or Sigourney Weaver does.

I think it's disingenuous to say that all Neill wanted was Powerloaders,
but I will say that I believe he doesn't understand the series
and that from the ideas he presented- what he did want was trite.

I think neither Scott or Blomkamp hit the nail on the head, Scott in writers he's hired or
the Alien being of the cosmic unknown inherently.
But he gets that it's an unrelenting rape monster in a world that's utterly f**ked where the company
can and will exploit you.
You can't always get a happy ending, that requires the same as in IRL- luck and perseverance.

& I think he was far closer to the mark than N.B's track record indicates (In writing, directing, concept)
N.B would've been.

My mention of powerloaders and androids was merely a reference to the most common complaints I've heard regarding the movies. Sometimes it seems like if you're a fan of Neil's idea, then you just want more Marines and Powerloaders. If you're a fan of Scott's direction, you just want more Androids/Blade Runner stuff and philosophy.

Neither of those is my personal opinion, nor do I necessarily agree with them. But of course, this is starting to head off topic, and I apologize for my contribution to that.


Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Nov 11, 2018, 12:45:20 AM
I thought A:CM was considered "Aliens 2."

I was primarily referring to the film aspect of the franchise.
Posted by The Old One
 - Nov 11, 2018, 12:48:10 AM
Until Ridley Scott kicks the bucket, or Sigourney Weaver does.

I think it's disingenuous to say that all Neill wanted was Powerloaders,
but I will say that I believe he doesn't understand the series
and that from the ideas he presented- what he did want was trite.

I think neither Scott or Blomkamp hit the nail on the head, Scott in writers he's hired or
the Alien being of the cosmic unknown inherently.
But he gets that it's an unrelenting rape monster in a world that's utterly f**ked where the company
can and will exploit you.
You can't always get a happy ending, that requires the same as in IRL- luck and perseverance.

& I think he was far closer to the mark than N.B's track record indicates (In writing, directing, concept)
N.B would've been.
Posted by TheSailingRabbit
 - Nov 11, 2018, 12:45:20 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 11, 2018, 12:37:05 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Nov 11, 2018, 12:26:34 AM
Instead it's been an endless argument since 2015 about a dead Alien project
that discussion keeps being disingenuously rejuvenated by various photos and statements. 

"Totally dead." If so-
Just release the damn script/treatment to put it to bed.
Stop unfairly tantalizing/angering people.

They'll never release it. It's going to be Neil and his powerloaders vs. Scott and his androids for years to come.

The war of preferred directions rages on. And whatever we do get, nobody is likely to be satisfied.

But there's one thing I'll give to Scott. At least he tried to do something different and more horror-related. All Neil wants is Aliens 2.

I thought A:CM was considered "Aliens 2."
Posted by Huggs
 - Nov 11, 2018, 12:37:05 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Nov 11, 2018, 12:26:34 AM
Instead it's been an endless argument since 2015 about a dead Alien project
that discussion keeps being disingenuously rejuvenated by various photos and statements. 

"Totally dead." If so-
Just release the damn script/treatment to put it to bed.
Stop unfairly tantalizing/angering people.

They'll never release it. It's going to be Neil and his powerloaders vs. Scott and his androids for years to come.

The war of preferred directions rages on. And whatever we do get, nobody is likely to be satisfied.

But there's one thing I'll give to Scott. At least he tried to do something different and more horror-related. All Neil wants is Aliens 2.
Posted by The Old One
 - Nov 11, 2018, 12:26:34 AM
Instead it's been an endless argument since 2015 about a dead Alien project
that discussion keeps being disingenuously rejuvenated by various photos and statements. 

"Totally dead." If so-
Just release the damn script/treatment to put it to bed.
Stop unfairly tantalizing/angering people.
Posted by Huggs
 - Nov 11, 2018, 12:15:00 AM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Nov 10, 2018, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 10, 2018, 08:14:43 PM
I wonder what people think when they wonder into this thread and say to themselves 'so this is what alien and predator fans think about'.

This is nothing.

:D So true.
Posted by TheSailingRabbit
 - Nov 10, 2018, 10:57:14 PM
Quote from: windebieste on Nov 10, 2018, 10:54:59 PM
John Hurt holds the record for characters dying onscreen.  At 43 deaths, it's the official record outstripping Vincent Price, Bela Lugosi and Sean Bean.

...and he's been killed by an Alien, twice. 

Beat that Paxton!  Beat that Henriksen.  :P

-Windebieste.

I was about to say, "Twice? When?" and then I remembered Spaceballs. Brainfart.
Posted by windebieste
 - Nov 10, 2018, 10:54:59 PM
John Hurt holds the record for characters dying onscreen.  At 43 deaths, it's the official record outstripping Vincent Price, Bela Lugosi and Sean Bean.

...and he's been killed by an Alien, twice. 

Beat that Paxton!  Beat that Henriksen.  :P

-Windebieste.
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