How would this crossover action horror science fiction movie be?
The title of this crossover movie is "Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps" and this movie is set in the universe of the 1979 science fiction horror movie Alien.
Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps takes place after the events of this other movie: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66652.0
Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps is about the military organization task force Ghost Corps and its war against the Diabolomorphs and the Umbrella Corporation. The Ghost Corps are very good when it comes to Black Ops operations.
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The Diabolomorphs are basically the name given to the xenomorphs that became far more powerful than normal xenomorphs due to evolving in some ways for an extremely long time. Then, the Diabolomorphs became more powerful due to some mutation.
Compared to normal xenomorphs, the Diabolomorphs travel freely in space and infest various galaxies, planets, and civilizations. Average Diabolomorph adults are a bit bigger than average normal xenomorphs while some types of Diabolomorphs such as the Diabolomorph Baron are gigantic and much bigger than the Diabolomorph Queen.
These are some kinds of Diabolomorphs:
1. Flying Diabolomorphs(These are winged Diabolomorphs that fly.)
2. Spider Facehuggers(These are Facehuggers that use webs as homes and as ways to trap their victims. These facehuggers impregnate victims.)
3. Electrical Diabolomorphs(These Diabolomorphs use electricity as a weapon.)
4. Mega Facehuggers(These facehuggers are gigantic and impregnate victims.)
5. Mind Control Chest Bursters(These Chest Bursters control the minds of their hosts.)
6. Diabolomorph King(This is the second highest ranking Diabolomorph in the Diabolomorph hive. Diabolomorph Kings are subordinate towards the Diabolomorph Queen. Normally, one Diabolomorph hive has one Diabolomorph Queen and 6 Diabolomorph Kings. Another purpose of the Diabolomorph King is to impregnate the Diabolomorph Queen with the best offspring.)
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Then an organization called the Umbrella Corporation got a hold of the Diabolomorphs.
The Umbrella Corporation is a rival corporation to the Weyland Yutani Corporation. The two corporations got into violent conflicts and wars with each other over possessing xenomorphs and anything related to xenomorphs. Due to this, military mercenaries working for the Weyland Yutani Corporation often got into conflicts with the USS(Umbrella Security Service). Competitions between the Umbrella Corporation and the Weyland Yutani Corporation started out as economic and like that of corporate business but soon devolved into military violence and assassinations. Overtime, the Umbrella Corporation destroyed the Weyland Yutani Corporation.
Due to the various experiments of the Umbrella Corporation with the Diabolomorphs, the Umbrella corporation unintentionally turned the whole human population of the human planet Enoch 67 into zombies. One type of these zombies produce Diabolomorph chest bursters within them that will eventually burst out of their chest which kills these zombies. The zombies took over Enoch 67 which resulted in the Diabolomorphs escaping from the Umbrella Corporation and ruling all of Enoch 67.
A long time ago, the Umbrella Corporation also revived the dinosaurs of Earth and brought those dinosaurs into Enoch 67 but after Enoch 67 was conquered by the Diabolomorphs, the dinosaurs were impregnated by giant facehuggers which resulted in the birth of the Savagomorphs. The Savagomorphs are Diabolomorphs born out of various types of dinosaurs such as the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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Below are the protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps:
1. James Braddock(from the 1984 action movie Missing in Action)
He is one of the greatest military soldiers that ever lived. He was a US military soldier. He is also a one man army.
2. Project Alice
She is a humanoid experiment created by the Umbrella Corporation. Due to this, she is above that of normal adult male humans when it comes to speed, strength, agility, physical strikes, and durability. She was given military training by the Ghost Corps after becoming one of their members.
3. Drake
Drake is originally a robot terminator that was programmed by Skynet to exterminate humans. Due to this, Drake is far above that of normal human adult males when it comes to speed, strength, agility, physical strikes, and durability. But after Skynet was destroyed by two legendary one man army commandos, a German engineer and scientist by the name of Diederich Abendroth programmed Drake to not hurt humans and to protect humans. Diederich also modified Drake in ways that enhanced Drake. Drake looks like a 13 year old European German white boy and due to this, some American college fraternity bully members tried to bully Drake but Drake just brutally killed them all. This event horrified Diederich so Diederich programmed Drake to be more gentle. Then, the Ghost Corps adopted Drake as one of their members. Drake is one of the best soldiers of Ghost Corps.
4. Dar Dar Binks
Dar Dar is not human. This is because he is a Gungan from a Gungan planet. He is a son of Jar Jar Binks. Dar Dar Binks is one of Ghost Corps's greatest soldiers. Like his father Jar Jar, Dar Dar is clumsy in some things.
5. Frank Castle
Frank Castle is one of Ghost Corps's greatest soldiers but before he became a member of Ghost Corps, he was a violent brutal ruthless savage vigilante that often brutally kills and brutally tortures gangsters. He has a huge hatred for gangsters and used to hunt down gangsters as a hobby in the USA. But before becoming that vigilante, Frank Castle was one of the US military's greatest special forces soldiers. Like James Braddock, Frank is a one man army himself. Many people think of Frank Castle as a sociopath and are scared of Frank himself. James Braddock doesn't fear Frank Castle and only has respect for Frank Castle while Frank also respects James Braddock.
6. Alex James Murphy
Alex James Murphy is a cyborg soldier of Ghost Corps. Before Alex was a member of Ghost Corps, he was a cyborg cop who hunted down criminals and gangsters in Detroit, Michigan.
7. William Adama
William Adama is the commander of the Ghost Corps. But before this, he had nothing to do with Ghost Corps or any of its current members. Before becoming a member of Ghost Corps, William Adama was once the commander of the space carrier battleship called Battlestar Galactica. Many members of Ghost Corps respect William as their commander due to his great skill as a tactician and strategist. He is also the most mature member of Ghost Corps. He is a proficient combatant himself but he thinks that James Braddock is the greatest combatant of Ghost Corps.
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The story of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps is about the Umbrella Corporation planning to take over Enoch 67 but after the Diabolomorphs and the human-turned zombies took over Enoch 67, the Umbrella Corporation tried to take over Earth instead so the US government sent the Ghost Corps on a mission to take down the Umbrella Corporation.
Then, the Ghost Corps and the US government realized that the Umbrella Corporation isn't the only problem but also the Diabolomorphs that escaped from the corporation, took over Enoch 67, and are threatening to expand in the universe. So the Ghost Corps decided to also fight the escaped Diabolomorphs.
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These are the locations that the Ghost Corps members will be fighting in:
Area 1 - London, United Kingdom(The Umbrella Corporation planned to take over Earth so the corporation sent its robots to invade and destroy the city of London. The robots destroyed the city so the Ghost Corps was deployed by the US government to save the city from the robots. The Ghost Corps will arrive at this city at night by riding a vehicle. Before the Ghost Corps soldiers get out of the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle, James Braddock, will use this vehicle to crash into multiple robots sent by the Umbrella Corporation. This action of James Braddock killed those robots. Then, the Ghost Corps soldiers will get out of the vehicle and begin fighting the Umbrella Corporation robots that destroyed the city.)
Area 2 - Underground Roads
Area 3 - Destroyed US Marine Corps military base(This base was severely annihilated by a powerful Diabolomorph called the Destroyer. The Destroyer is the boss of this area.)
Area 4 - Underground American City
Area 5 - Huge USS Military Boat Ship
Area 6 - Swamp
Area 7 - Savagomorph Jungle(The boss of this area is the Savagomorph Triceratops.)
Area 8 - An extremely gigantic USS Military Train
Area 9 - Snow Forest
Area 10 - Snow Mountains
Area 11 - Egyptian Pyramid
Area 12 - USS Military Fortress
Area 13 - Umbrella Corporation Robot Factory(This factory has many military robots guarding it.)
Area 14 - Umbrella Corporation Laboratory
Area 15 - A human city in Enoch 67(This city is taken over by Diabolomorphs and human-turned zombies.)
Final Area - Space Diabolomorph Hive(This Diabolomorph hive is in space. This hive is the area where the Ghost Corps will fight the Diabolomorph Queen and her 6 Diabolomorph Kings.)
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First, the Ghost Corps fought and destroyed the Umbrella Corporation, the USS soldiers, the zombies, and the Savagomorphs.
Later, the Ghost Corps destroyed the Diabolomorphs.
The final part of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps is the Ghost Corps soldiers raiding the Space Diabolomorph Hive and fighting and killing all of the Diabolomorphs there. In the Diabolomorph hive, the Ghost Corps soldiers' final battle is them fighting and killing their final enemy which is the Diabolomorph Queen. The Diabolomorph Queen is the final boss.
After the Ghost Corps killed the Diabolomorph Queen and accomplished their mission, a spaceship arrives and picks them up. The Ghost Corps soldiers were then sent back to Earth by the spaceship.
Then a CIA agent used a nuke as a type of attack towards a part of Enoch 67 which killed the Diabolomorphs in that part of Enoch 67. Then the CIA agent used this form of attack against the Space Diabolomorph Hive and all parts of Enoch 67 which killed all of the Diabolomorphs in those places.
The ending credits of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps will include outer space as a background.
Honestly? In the interest of finding something positive to say; you've managed to do the impossible and make AvP:R look like a masterpiece in comparison, congratulations! 😃
https://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=euWpb8mU2drQwW4y
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 06:09:26 PMhttps://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=euWpb8mU2drQwW4y
What do you mean?
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:24:54 PMHonestly? In the interest of finding something positive to say; you've managed to do the impossible and make AvP:R look like a masterpiece in comparison, congratulations! 😃
Why do you hate this idea of mine for a crossover movie?
Can I ask how old you are please, Prince77?
If you don't want to be specific, just the first number is okay, so 1X for 19, 2X for 25, etc.
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 06:09:26 PMhttps://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=euWpb8mU2drQwW4y
How does that video relate to my post?
Answer my question please, Prince77.
I can't critique your idea properly until I know if it's the work of a child or an adult.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 07:02:44 PMAnswer my question please, Prince77.
I can't critique your idea properly until I know if it's the work of a child or an adult.
Wouldn't it be better if you just judge my post without knowing my age? Knowing who I am as a person could affect the way you think of my post in a way the makes you judge my post as something else compared to what it actually is.
Judging my post without knowing who I am is actually better because in that way, you're actually judging my post by judging my post and not you judging my post based on me.
I'll be real with you, it's so I know how brutal to be. The critique will not be positive either way, but I don't want to discourage a younger person too badly.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 08:00:17 PMI'll be real with you, it's so I know how brutal to be. The critique will not be positive either way, but I don't want to discourage a younger person too badly.
This is exactly why I deleted my original (brutal) reply and rolled with the comment above instead 😅 There's a possibility this is a minor...
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 06:09:26 PMhttps://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=euWpb8mU2drQwW4y
Nice music. Still, how does that video relate to my post?
f**k it.
First off, this should be in the Fan Fiction section, not the Alien Films section, and will likely get moved to the appropriate subforum by a Mod or Admin.
Second. You have not written an idea for a movie, you have written an idea for a videogame. It's even broken down into maps/arenas like a classic FPS or well, like the Contra games people keep linking you to in these threads, that you're basically beat-for beat recreating.
I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt in never having heard of Contra, but that seems unlikely given the extreme similarities.
I cannot stress enough though that this is the outline for an action game, not a film. Films don't work like this, and you need to study how they do work. Then, pick a small number of these locations, and expand them into living, breathing places that actual narrative can take place in. No, a firefight is not narrative on its own.
The name you've given this mess sounds like what someone with English as a second language* would call their terribly made, totally-not-call-of-duty asset flip game on the Steam store. If you're going to continue with this, then for god's sake, name it something better. Something that sounds more science fiction-y would be a start.
*If English is your second language, then you're doing very well with it on a technical level, the spelling and grammar is fine. It's the ideas that are bad.
Diabolomorphs: No. Stop it. If you want something like that, then look into writing Warhammer 40k fanfiction, because the Tyranids are just this idea but better and 35 years older.
Fundamentally changing what the Aliens from the Alien franchise are, and then getting into power-level wank with it, is incredibly cringe and childish. So just don't do it.
The soldiers: Good grief. While crossovers are almost universally terrible anyway when it's just two worlds colliding, you've thrown in the entire kitchen sink, then gone looking for more. Don't do this either. It sucks and nobody except you will ever like it.
It seems like Umbrella is the most important part of this crossover to you, so if you're going to push on with this and try to make something worthwhile, my genuine advice is as follows:
- Change the name of the idea to something that actually sounds like it's in a science fiction setting. Use less words in general, and avoid giving it a subtitle if possible. If you do give it a subtitle, make the main title Alien or Aliens. That's how you get people to care enough to even bother looking.
- Get rid of all the characters from other movies. Every single one of them. They add nothing, it's not as cool as you seem to think it is, by a long way, and if some movie executive (I can only assume while suffering a stroke) did pick up your idea, the licensing issues would torpedo the whole thing minutes later. Create your own characters. Homage to other films and media is great, but don't lift things or people wholesale. Especially not from a dozen other well known franchises at once.
- Get rid of the Diabolomorphs. If you're going to use Aliens, use Aliens. a small amount of Umbrella style Zs or mutants you can possibly get away with as an isolated event. Not an entire Bigger Batman species. Don't try to re-invent the wheel here.
- Get rid of Umbrella. An evil biotech company f**king around with the Aliens is cool, but we already have a lot of them. You can choose an existing one from the Alien setting, or create a new one similar to Umbrella, but ditch the overt lifting from Resident Evil. It's not helping you at all.
- Play the Contra games, or at least watch videos about them. The similarities to what you're putting out there are striking, and again, I'm not entirely convinced you aren't fully aware of them and just filing the serial numbers off then adding a distracting amount of other crossovers. But assuming you're acting in good faith, go check them out. It's helpful to know what's come before you, especially when it's so incredibly similar.
I know this has been very negative, but it's honestly for your own good. You may well be a capable writer one day, but you'll never get there without being told why the things you're doing now are bad. And they are bad.
You need to ruthlessly strip 95% of this out and start again with a few core concepts that mean something to you, and grow your setting from there. Then start populating it with original characters who have real motivations beyond "saving the universe".
Be more reserved with the Aliens, or create your own original species and don't try to tie it in with the Alien franchise. The Dark Horse Aliens comics Labyrinth, Genocide, Music of the Spears, and Rogue all have elements of what you seem to want and I suggest reading any of them that you haven't, to see where other people have taken similar basic concepts.
I don't think you should give up, but I do think you need to start again after learning more about how movies are structured, and get over the desire to make it a huge crossover.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PMThe soldiers: Good grief. While crossovers are almost universally terrible anyway when it's just two worlds colliding, you've thrown in the entire kitchen sink, then gone looking for more. Don't do this either. It sucks and nobody except you will ever like it.
Crossovers aren't bad. What are you talking about?
Also, I can accept you saying that my crossover idea is not perfect but you saying that my crossover idea is bad, that's just too much.
Makes me wonder what you really see in the protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps for you to say that my crossover idea is bad.
Well, I genuinely tried. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PMf**k it.
First off, this should be in the Fan Fiction section, not the Alien Films section, and will likely get moved to the appropriate subforum by a Mod or Admin.
Second. You have not written an idea for a movie, you have written an idea for a videogame. It's even broken down into maps/arenas like a classic FPS or well, like the Contra games people keep linking you to in these threads, that you're basically beat-for beat recreating.
I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt in never having heard of Contra, but that seems unlikely given the extreme similarities.
I cannot stress enough though that this is the outline for an action game, not a film. Films don't work like this, and you need to study how they do work. Then, pick a small number of these locations, and expand them into living, breathing places that actual narrative can take place in. No, a firefight is not narrative on its own.
The name you've given this mess sounds like what someone with English as a second language* would call their terribly made, totally-not-call-of-duty asset flip game on the Steam store. If you're going to continue with this, then for god's sake, name it something better. Something that sounds more science fiction-y would be a start.
*If English is your second language, then you're doing very well with it on a technical level, the spelling and grammar is fine. It's the ideas that are bad.
Diabolomorphs: No. Stop it. If you want something like that, then look into writing Warhammer 40k fanfiction, because the Tyranids are just this idea but better and 35 years older.
Fundamentally changing what the Aliens from the Alien franchise are, and then getting into power-level wank with it, is incredibly cringe and childish. So just don't do it.
The soldiers: Good grief. While crossovers are almost universally terrible anyway when it's just two worlds colliding, you've thrown in the entire kitchen sink, then gone looking for more. Don't do this either. It sucks and nobody except you will ever like it.
It seems like Umbrella is the most important part of this crossover to you, so if you're going to push on with this and try to make something worthwhile, my genuine advice is as follows:
- Change the name of the idea to something that actually sounds like it's in a science fiction setting. Use less words in general, and avoid giving it a subtitle if possible. If you do give it a subtitle, make the main title Alien or Aliens. That's how you get people to care enough to even bother looking.
- Get rid of all the characters from other movies. Every single one of them. They add nothing, it's not as cool as you seem to think it is, by a long way, and if some movie executive (I can only assume while suffering a stroke) did pick up your idea, the licensing issues would torpedo the whole thing minutes later. Create your own characters. Homage to other films and media is great, but don't lift things or people wholesale. Especially not from a dozen other well known franchises at once.
- Get rid of the Diabolomorphs. If you're going to use Aliens, use Aliens. a small amount of Umbrella style Zs or mutants you can possibly get away with as an isolated event. Not an entire Bigger Batman species. Don't try to re-invent the wheel here.
- Get rid of Umbrella. An evil biotech company f**king around with the Aliens is cool, but we already have a lot of them. You can choose an existing one from the Alien setting, or create a new one similar to Umbrella, but ditch the overt lifting from Resident Evil. It's not helping you at all.
- Play the Contra games, or at least watch videos about them. The similarities to what you're putting out there are striking, and again, I'm not entirely convinced you aren't fully aware of them and just filing the serial numbers off then adding a distracting amount of other crossovers. But assuming you're acting in good faith, go check them out. It's helpful to know what's come before you, especially when it's so incredibly similar.
I know this has been very negative, but it's honestly for your own good. You may well be a capable writer one day, but you'll never get there without being told why the things you're doing now are bad. And they are bad.
You need to ruthlessly strip 95% of this out and start again with a few core concepts that mean something to you, and grow your setting from there. Then start populating it with original characters who have real motivations beyond "saving the universe".
Be more reserved with the Aliens, or create your own original species and don't try to tie it in with the Alien franchise. The Dark Horse Aliens comics Labyrinth, Genocide, Music of the Spears, and Rogue all have elements of what you seem to want and I suggest reading any of them that you haven't, to see where other people have taken similar basic concepts.
I don't think you should give up, but I do think you need to start again after learning more about how movies are structured, and get over the desire to make it a huge crossover.
Some solid advice here from cancerblack, I second everything being said here.
Only thing I'd add, is when downscaling, if you are absolutely insistent on a crossover (I wouldn't personally), then narrow it to only two franchises and consider how their existing lore can work together for your story in a way that makes sense. For example; as Cancerblack mentions, Umbrella in the Alien universe /timeline makes zero sense, with the multiple corporations which do exactly the same thing within the alien universe already available (also, if you know your Resident Evil lore, Umbrella Corporation no longer exists, it's now Blue Umbrella, which is a very different thing altogether). However, whilst Umbrella in Alien is a terrible idea, on the flip, elements of Alien *could* (at a stretch) be introduced to the Resident Evil universe; consider, most of Umbrella Corp's bio weapons / viruses are sourced from the progenitor virus (an ancient virus)- thinking along those lines, consider a modern-day setting in the Resident Evil universe where a sample of a 'proto-pathogen' was obtained (keep its origins ambiguous/ no mention of engineers, drop hints that it was discovered at an archeological site or whatever, and imagine the kinds of bio weapons that may result (taking aesthetic cues of neomorph physiology, hammerpedes, trilobites, deacons into consideration when creating your original pieces as a nod - and consider the kinds of existing bio weapons umbrella creates/their common attributes, such as Nemesis, Mr. X (that sort of thing) - but don't go crazy. You want your zombie-type enemy for that classic Resident Evil callback? No problem; the alien universe & non-canon expanded media has provided you possibilities; Covenant showed those infected with pathogen turning grey and sickly looking when infected, Prometheus showed mutation in humans, in the Aliens arcade game hosts would be mobile and zombie-like attacking the player prior to chestbursters being birthed, etc etc... take what's available/compatible and make your own composition. (Again, I'm not saying do these things, this is just purely example of brainstorming common themes which *may* work). Though I must stress- I don't think these franchises are a good match 🤣
If you're a child:
This is a video game outline. Look up script treatments beat sheets to learn how movie ideas are planned out.
Most of the things you've thrown together have no relationship to each other and it just sounds like a random collection of things you like thrown into a blender. Think a bit more about how the elements fit together.
If you're an adult:
You need a new bit for your trolling, this one is stale.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PM- Play the Contra games, or at least watch videos about them. The similarities to what you're putting out there are striking, and again, I'm not entirely convinced you aren't fully aware of them and just filing the serial numbers off then adding a distracting amount of other crossovers. But assuming you're acting in good faith, go check them out. It's helpful to know what's come before you, especially when it's so incredibly similar.
Now, I looked up what Contra is. It is basically a video game about 2 military commandos fighting aliens. The military commandos are like John Rambos. But how is Contra similar to Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps? The protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps are not 2 Rambos but 7 military soldiers that aren't like shirtless sweatband-wearing Rambos.
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 06:09:26 PMhttps://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=euWpb8mU2drQwW4y
I wonder when you are going to respond to my question. Again, what does that video have to do with my post? How is that video relevant to my post?
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 10:25:52 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PM- Play the Contra games, or at least watch videos about them. The similarities to what you're putting out there are striking, and again, I'm not entirely convinced you aren't fully aware of them and just filing the serial numbers off then adding a distracting amount of other crossovers. But assuming you're acting in good faith, go check them out. It's helpful to know what's come before you, especially when it's so incredibly similar.
Now, I looked up what Contra is. It is basically a video game about 2 military commandos fighting aliens. The military commandos are like John Rambos. But how is Contra similar to Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps? The protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps are not 2 Rambos but 7 military soldiers that aren't like shirtless sweatband-wearing Rambos.
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 06:09:26 PMhttps://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=euWpb8mU2drQwW4y
I wonder when you are going to respond to my question. Again, what does that video have to do with my post? How is that video relevant to my post?
Nope, not buying it; this is definitely a troll 😂 #iggybin
[EDIT: and call me paranoid, but this account was created only 6 days prior to the 'Aliens analysis' thread being locked, during the time everyone was finally putting a certain someone on ignore - a certain someone who also types out a novel worth of paragraphs in his posts and then demands people explain themselves when they disagree].
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 10:25:52 PMI wonder when you are going to respond to my question. Again, what does that video have to do with my post? How is that video relevant to my post?
What do you think?
So is this like the sequel to Fury of the Soldiers 2?
What happened to John Rambo and John Matrix? Shouldn't they be the ones to take care of the Diabolomorphs and the Umbrella Corporation?
Are those 2 taking a vacation so the 7 Ghost Corps soldiers are doing their job?
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PMArea 1 - London, United Kingdom(The Umbrella Corporation planned to take over Earth so the corporation sent its robots to invade and destroy the city of London. The robots destroyed the city so the Ghost Corps was deployed by the US government to save the city from the robots. The Ghost Corps will arrive at this city at night by riding a vehicle. Before the Ghost Corps soldiers get out of the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle, James Braddock, will use this vehicle to crash into multiple robots sent by the Umbrella Corporation. This action of James Braddock killed those robots. Then, the Ghost Corps soldiers will get out of the vehicle and begin fighting the Umbrella Corporation robots that destroyed the city.)
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PMBefore the Ghost Corps soldiers get out of the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle, James Braddock, will use this vehicle to crash into multiple robots sent by the Umbrella Corporation. This action of James Braddock killed those robots. Then, the Ghost Corps soldiers will get out of the vehicle and begin fighting the Umbrella Corporation robots that destroyed the city.)
https://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=KSLlAtbc3Q81e6Ux
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 11:54:47 PMQuote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PMArea 1 - London, United Kingdom(The Umbrella Corporation planned to take over Earth so the corporation sent its robots to invade and destroy the city of London. The robots destroyed the city so the Ghost Corps was deployed by the US government to save the city from the robots. The Ghost Corps will arrive at this city at night by riding a vehicle. Before the Ghost Corps soldiers get out of the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle, James Braddock, will use this vehicle to crash into multiple robots sent by the Umbrella Corporation. This action of James Braddock killed those robots. Then, the Ghost Corps soldiers will get out of the vehicle and begin fighting the Umbrella Corporation robots that destroyed the city.)
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PMBefore the Ghost Corps soldiers get out of the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle, James Braddock, will use this vehicle to crash into multiple robots sent by the Umbrella Corporation. This action of James Braddock killed those robots. Then, the Ghost Corps soldiers will get out of the vehicle and begin fighting the Umbrella Corporation robots that destroyed the city.)
https://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=KSLlAtbc3Q81e6Ux
Seriously, what do you mean?
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 11, 2023, 12:00:40 AMQuote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 11:54:47 PMQuote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PMArea 1 - London, United Kingdom(The Umbrella Corporation planned to take over Earth so the corporation sent its robots to invade and destroy the city of London. The robots destroyed the city so the Ghost Corps was deployed by the US government to save the city from the robots. The Ghost Corps will arrive at this city at night by riding a vehicle. Before the Ghost Corps soldiers get out of the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle, James Braddock, will use this vehicle to crash into multiple robots sent by the Umbrella Corporation. This action of James Braddock killed those robots. Then, the Ghost Corps soldiers will get out of the vehicle and begin fighting the Umbrella Corporation robots that destroyed the city.)
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PMBefore the Ghost Corps soldiers get out of the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle, James Braddock, will use this vehicle to crash into multiple robots sent by the Umbrella Corporation. This action of James Braddock killed those robots. Then, the Ghost Corps soldiers will get out of the vehicle and begin fighting the Umbrella Corporation robots that destroyed the city.)
https://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=KSLlAtbc3Q81e6Ux
Seriously, what do you mean?
Oh, you know what I mean. You know what I mean, OP. You know what I mean. Everyone knows what you mean.
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Sep 10, 2023, 11:29:00 PMQuote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 10:25:52 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PM- Play the Contra games, or at least watch videos about them. The similarities to what you're putting out there are striking, and again, I'm not entirely convinced you aren't fully aware of them and just filing the serial numbers off then adding a distracting amount of other crossovers. But assuming you're acting in good faith, go check them out. It's helpful to know what's come before you, especially when it's so incredibly similar.
Now, I looked up what Contra is. It is basically a video game about 2 military commandos fighting aliens. The military commandos are like John Rambos. But how is Contra similar to Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps? The protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps are not 2 Rambos but 7 military soldiers that aren't like shirtless sweatband-wearing Rambos.
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 06:09:26 PMhttps://youtu.be/vWo7miKSpDg?si=euWpb8mU2drQwW4y
I wonder when you are going to respond to my question. Again, what does that video have to do with my post? How is that video relevant to my post?
Nope, not buying it; this is definitely a troll 😂 #iggybin
[EDIT: and call me paranoid, but this account was created only 6 days prior to the 'Aliens analysis' thread being locked, during the time everyone was finally putting a certain someone on ignore - a certain someone who also types out a novel worth of paragraphs in his posts and then demands people explain themselves when they disagree].
I am not trolling.
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PM7. William Adama
William Adama is the commander of the Ghost Corps. But before this, he had nothing to do with Ghost Corps or any of its current members. Before becoming a member of Ghost Corps, William Adama was once the commander of the space carrier battleship called Battlestar Galactica. Many members of Ghost Corps respect William as their commander due to his great skill as a tactician and strategist. He is also the most mature member of Ghost Corps.
https://youtu.be/b306GsKc0as?si=MbQh16zX6TH_lamO
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Sep 10, 2023, 09:35:35 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PMf**k it.
First off, this should be in the Fan Fiction section, not the Alien Films section, and will likely get moved to the appropriate subforum by a Mod or Admin.
Second. You have not written an idea for a movie, you have written an idea for a videogame. It's even broken down into maps/arenas like a classic FPS or well, like the Contra games people keep linking you to in these threads, that you're basically beat-for beat recreating.
I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt in never having heard of Contra, but that seems unlikely given the extreme similarities.
I cannot stress enough though that this is the outline for an action game, not a film. Films don't work like this, and you need to study how they do work. Then, pick a small number of these locations, and expand them into living, breathing places that actual narrative can take place in. No, a firefight is not narrative on its own.
The name you've given this mess sounds like what someone with English as a second language* would call their terribly made, totally-not-call-of-duty asset flip game on the Steam store. If you're going to continue with this, then for god's sake, name it something better. Something that sounds more science fiction-y would be a start.
*If English is your second language, then you're doing very well with it on a technical level, the spelling and grammar is fine. It's the ideas that are bad.
Diabolomorphs: No. Stop it. If you want something like that, then look into writing Warhammer 40k fanfiction, because the Tyranids are just this idea but better and 35 years older.
Fundamentally changing what the Aliens from the Alien franchise are, and then getting into power-level wank with it, is incredibly cringe and childish. So just don't do it.
The soldiers: Good grief. While crossovers are almost universally terrible anyway when it's just two worlds colliding, you've thrown in the entire kitchen sink, then gone looking for more. Don't do this either. It sucks and nobody except you will ever like it.
It seems like Umbrella is the most important part of this crossover to you, so if you're going to push on with this and try to make something worthwhile, my genuine advice is as follows:
- Change the name of the idea to something that actually sounds like it's in a science fiction setting. Use less words in general, and avoid giving it a subtitle if possible. If you do give it a subtitle, make the main title Alien or Aliens. That's how you get people to care enough to even bother looking.
- Get rid of all the characters from other movies. Every single one of them. They add nothing, it's not as cool as you seem to think it is, by a long way, and if some movie executive (I can only assume while suffering a stroke) did pick up your idea, the licensing issues would torpedo the whole thing minutes later. Create your own characters. Homage to other films and media is great, but don't lift things or people wholesale. Especially not from a dozen other well known franchises at once.
- Get rid of the Diabolomorphs. If you're going to use Aliens, use Aliens. a small amount of Umbrella style Zs or mutants you can possibly get away with as an isolated event. Not an entire Bigger Batman species. Don't try to re-invent the wheel here.
- Get rid of Umbrella. An evil biotech company f**king around with the Aliens is cool, but we already have a lot of them. You can choose an existing one from the Alien setting, or create a new one similar to Umbrella, but ditch the overt lifting from Resident Evil. It's not helping you at all.
- Play the Contra games, or at least watch videos about them. The similarities to what you're putting out there are striking, and again, I'm not entirely convinced you aren't fully aware of them and just filing the serial numbers off then adding a distracting amount of other crossovers. But assuming you're acting in good faith, go check them out. It's helpful to know what's come before you, especially when it's so incredibly similar.
I know this has been very negative, but it's honestly for your own good. You may well be a capable writer one day, but you'll never get there without being told why the things you're doing now are bad. And they are bad.
You need to ruthlessly strip 95% of this out and start again with a few core concepts that mean something to you, and grow your setting from there. Then start populating it with original characters who have real motivations beyond "saving the universe".
Be more reserved with the Aliens, or create your own original species and don't try to tie it in with the Alien franchise. The Dark Horse Aliens comics Labyrinth, Genocide, Music of the Spears, and Rogue all have elements of what you seem to want and I suggest reading any of them that you haven't, to see where other people have taken similar basic concepts.
I don't think you should give up, but I do think you need to start again after learning more about how movies are structured, and get over the desire to make it a huge crossover.
Some solid advice here from cancerblack, I second everything being said here.
Only thing I'd add, is when downscaling, if you are absolutely insistent on a crossover (I wouldn't personally), then narrow it to only two franchises and consider how their existing lore can work together for your story in a way that makes sense. For example; as Cancerblack mentions, Umbrella in the Alien universe /timeline makes zero sense, with the multiple corporations which do exactly the same thing within the alien universe already available (also, if you know your Resident Evil lore, Umbrella Corporation no longer exists, it's now Blue Umbrella, which is a very different thing altogether). However, whilst Umbrella in Alien is a terrible idea, on the flip, elements of Alien *could* (at a stretch) be introduced to the Resident Evil universe; consider, most of Umbrella Corp's bio weapons / viruses are sourced from the progenitor virus (an ancient virus)- thinking along those lines, consider a modern-day setting in the Resident Evil universe where a sample of a 'proto-pathogen' was obtained (keep its origins ambiguous/ no mention of engineers, drop hints that it was discovered at an archeological site or whatever, and imagine the kinds of bio weapons that may result (taking aesthetic cues of neomorph physiology, hammerpedes, trilobites, deacons into consideration when creating your original pieces as a nod - and consider the kinds of existing bio weapons umbrella creates/their common attributes, such as Nemesis, Mr. X (that sort of thing) - but don't go crazy. You want your zombie-type enemy for that classic Resident Evil callback? No problem; the alien universe & non-canon expanded media has provided you possibilities; Covenant showed those infected with pathogen turning grey and sickly looking when infected, Prometheus showed mutation in humans, in the Aliens arcade game hosts would be mobile and zombie-like attacking the player prior to chestbursters being birthed, etc etc... take what's available/compatible and make your own composition. (Again, I'm not saying do these things, this is just purely example of brainstorming common themes which *may* work). Though I must stress- I don't think these franchises are a good match 🤣
But what do you think of the 7 protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps?
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PMAfter the Ghost Corps killed the Diabolomorph Queen and accomplished their mission, a spaceship arrives and picks them up. The Ghost Corps soldiers were then sent back to Earth by the spaceship.
https://youtu.be/gHxwMlKZqfM?si=5E84UPwNoOcavAkE
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Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 11, 2023, 02:05:28 AMBut what do you think of the 7 protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps?
How did they all get into this setting you've cooked up? You haven't even bothered to explain how the crossover happens.
This thread has become more entertaining than the topic at hand, but in all seriousness I've tried to read this multiple times and can't get past the first few paragraphs, no offense.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 11, 2023, 03:38:16 AMQuote from: Prince77 on Sep 11, 2023, 02:05:28 AMBut what do you think of the 7 protagonists of Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps?
How did they all get into this setting you've cooked up? You haven't even bothered to explain how the crossover happens.
Which of the 7 do you like?
None. They don't make sense together.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 11, 2023, 01:02:29 PMThey don't make sense together.
Are you sure? Why?
Are Diabolomorphs and Praetorians the same creature?
Gonna have to check this out when I have the time. Only thing my dyslexia caught was Xenomorph and Umbrella Corporation. I'm sold. LOL
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 11, 2023, 01:55:37 PMQuote from: SiL on Sep 11, 2023, 01:02:29 PMThey don't make sense together.
Are you sure? Why?
They're from completely different stories and have no reason to interact.
Dear Prince77,
I hope this letter finds you well. I've recently had the pleasure of reviewing your movie idea, "Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps," and would like to share my thoughts.
Your concept of blending the universe of the 1979 science fiction horror film "Alien" with a fresh and expansive narrative is intriguing. The introduction of the Diabolomorphs as evolved Xenomorphs and their various sub-species adds depth to the familiar adversaries of the original films. Their mutations and development are interesting, from Flying Diabolomorphs to Mind Control Chest Bursters. This kind of evolutionary adaptation opens up a plethora of possibilities for on-screen horror.
The involvement of the Umbrella Corporation as a powerful antagonist adds another layer to the story. Their competitive dynamic with the Weyland Yutani Corporation brings an added human dimension, making it not just a human-versus-creature narrative but also touching on corporate espionage, warfare, and the ramifications of unchecked ambition. The tragic mistake of the Umbrella Corporation in turning the entire population of Enoch 67 into zombies creates an atmospheric setting reminiscent of a post-apocalyptic universe, one that is ripe for the unfolding action.
In terms of protagonists, your ensemble cast is diverse and includes figures from various universes. From James Braddock to Dar Dar Binks, there's a blend of serious, action-heavy characters with comedic relief. The inclusion of Drake, the reprogrammed terminator, offers a delightful twist and depth, raising questions about artificial intelligence and its place in humanity.
Your choice of various settings from London to an Egyptian Pyramid and ultimately the space Diabolomorph Hive showcases a vast landscape for your protagonists to navigate, promising varied and visually stunning sequences.
However, there are a few aspects to consider. The sheer volume of characters and backstories, while rich, might pose a challenge in terms of pacing and character development. Finding a balance to give each character their due screen time while also advancing the plot might be a complex endeavor.
Moreover, the combination of various characters from different universes, while exciting, might need careful handling to ensure the story remains cohesive and not too fragmented. It's essential to find a strong unifying narrative arc that seamlessly integrates all these elements.
In conclusion, "Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps" has the potential to be a gripping action-horror-science fiction movie, rich in lore and featuring a dynamic cast. With a clear focus on character arcs, streamlined narrative, and an emphasis on the atmospheric and horror elements, this could be a notable addition to the sci-fi horror genre.
Wishing you the best in your creative endeavors.
Warm regards,
ChatGPT
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 11, 2023, 11:59:36 PMAre Diabolomorphs and Praetorians the same creature?
No, the praetorians are not a species of xenomorphs. They are just a caste of the classic xenomorph species.
The Diabolomorphs on the other hand are a species of xenomorphs that are different and separated from the classic xenomorph species.
An average diabolomorph adult is bigger than the average adult size of the classic xenomorph species.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 12, 2023, 06:31:05 AMQuote from: Prince77 on Sep 11, 2023, 01:55:37 PMQuote from: SiL on Sep 11, 2023, 01:02:29 PMThey don't make sense together.
Are you sure? Why?
They're from completely different stories and have no reason to interact.
You're acting like they would hate each other. Come on.
You've given no reason any of them would be in the same room together.
It's just real bad writing.
You should direct this movie. It would be the challenge of a lifetime.
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 11, 2023, 11:53:42 AMWhich of the 7 do you like?
I don't like any of them, and I like them even less as a nonsensical team without even so much as a magic-portals handwaved explanation for them existing in the same universe.
I don't know. Dar Dar Binks has the potential to be a beloved favorite.
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 13, 2023, 12:59:09 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 11, 2023, 11:59:36 PMAre Diabolomorphs and Praetorians the same creature?
No, the praetorians are not a species of xenomorphs. They are just a caste of the classic xenomorph species.
The Diabolomorphs on the other hand are a species of xenomorphs that are different and separated from the classic xenomorph species.
An average diabolomorph adult is bigger than the average adult size of the classic xenomorph species.
Okay I understand. So unlike the classic xenomorph species which was made by David, who made the Diabolomorphs?
...also, there is no elephant man in this cinematic universe?
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 14, 2023, 02:48:01 AM...also, there is no elephant man in this cinematic universe?
I want elephant man! >:(
@Local Trouble I tried to get ChatGPT to turn it into an actual script treatment but it kept spitting it out in the same style.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 14, 2023, 07:25:41 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 14, 2023, 02:48:01 AM...also, there is no elephant man in this cinematic universe?
I want elephant man! >:(
If Elephant man not here teaching me what xenomorph are and shit, I am out of here
Quote from: SiL on Sep 14, 2023, 08:56:09 AM@Local Trouble I tried to get ChatGPT to turn it into an actual script treatment but it kept spitting it out in the same style.
This is what ChatGPT gave me. It should be enough for you to nail down a release date and get to work...
Quote**Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps - Script Treatment**
*Title:* **Fury of the Soldiers: Ghost Corps**
*Setting:* The vastness of the Alien universe with the chaos created by the merger of various movie genres.
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**Introduction:**
The elite military task force, Ghost Corps, is known for its unparalleled skills in Black Ops. After an event linked from another film, the Ghost Corps is now faced with a dire threat - the Diabolomorphs, a new breed of xenomorphs. Made powerful from evolution and mutation, these entities have started wreaking havoc across galaxies.
To make matters worse, the sinister Umbrella Corporation has been experimenting with the Diabolomorphs. Their actions, unintentional or otherwise, has led to the birth of zombified humans and creatures known as Savagomorphs - a terrifying mix of dinosaurs and Diabolomorphs.
---
**Act I:**
The movie begins with chaos in London. As the city skyline lights up with explosions, the Ghost Corps arrive. Their arrival is marked with James Braddock heroically crashing a vehicle into a horde of invading robots from the Umbrella Corporation.
As the team moves underground, battling robots and navigating the destroyed remnants of the city, tensions rise. A flashback to earlier conflicts between Weyland Yutani Corporation and the Umbrella Corporation sheds light on the present situation. This corporate warfare left the universe vulnerable to the Diabolomorph menace.
---
**Act II:**
The Ghost Corps comes face to face with the Diabolomorphs' destructive power at a US Marine Base. The base has been completely decimated, with a monstrous Diabolomorph, the Destroyer, reigning supreme. After an intense battle, they neutralize the threat.
Moving through diverse terrains like swamps, jungles, and snowy mountains, they engage in ruthless battles against the Savagomorphs, the zombies, and the relentless Umbrella Corporation soldiers.
As they venture deeper into enemy territory, the personal histories and motives of the Ghost Corps members are revealed:
- **James Braddock** showcases his leadership qualities and formidable combat skills.
- **Project Alice** struggles with her creation's origin while proving her loyalty to the Corps.
- **Drake's** internal battle with his programming and newfound humanity becomes evident, especially during intense combat situations.
- **Dar Dar Binks**, with his clumsy antics, provides comedic relief, but when the situation calls, he displays bravery and skill.
- **Frank Castle's** sociopathic tendencies are both an advantage and a point of contention within the group.
- **Alex James Murphy** offers a moral compass, reminding the team of their duty to protect.
- **Commander William Adama** is the binding force, leading the group with unmatched strategy and tact.
---
**Act III:**
The climax of their mission takes them to Enoch 67, a city taken over by Diabolomorphs and human-zombies. Their ultimate challenge lies in the Space Diabolomorph Hive. Here, amidst the eerie corridors and echoing chambers, the Ghost Corps faces its most challenging adversaries - the Diabolomorph Queen and her Kings.
The battle is epic, combining state-of-the-art military strategies, emotional confrontations, and unparalleled heroics. One by one, the Ghost Corps members confront their fears, making sacrifices and pushing their limits.
The final showdown with the Diabolomorph Queen is heart-pounding, with each member playing a crucial role in her downfall.
---
**Epilogue:**
After their victory, a spaceship retrieves the Ghost Corps. As they head back to Earth, the narrative shifts to a CIA agent's point of view, revealing a drastic decision to nuke parts of Enoch 67 and the Space Diabolomorph Hive to ensure no Diabolomorph remains.
The credits roll against the backdrop of outer space, vast and mysterious, leaving audiences wondering what other adventures await the Ghost Corps.
---
*End of Treatment.*
Suitably terrible.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 14, 2023, 02:48:01 AMQuote from: Prince77 on Sep 13, 2023, 12:59:09 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 11, 2023, 11:59:36 PMAre Diabolomorphs and Praetorians the same creature?
No, the praetorians are not a species of xenomorphs. They are just a caste of the classic xenomorph species.
The Diabolomorphs on the other hand are a species of xenomorphs that are different and separated from the classic xenomorph species.
An average diabolomorph adult is bigger than the average adult size of the classic xenomorph species.
Okay I understand. So unlike the classic xenomorph species which was made by David, who made the Diabolomorphs?
...also, there is no elephant man in this cinematic universe?
Nobody made the Diabolomorphs. They are basically just xenomorphs who evolved and mutated on their own.
I would like to know more.
Quote from: GetThat81 on Sep 10, 2023, 11:45:35 PMSo is this like the sequel to Fury of the Soldiers 2?
What happened to John Rambo and John Matrix? Shouldn't they be the ones to take care of the Diabolomorphs and the Umbrella Corporation?
Are those 2 taking a vacation so the 7 Ghost Corps soldiers are doing their job?
As for what happened to those 2 men, it's a secret.
So I just read what Diabolomorphs are and it's just the tyranids from Warhammer 40k and I don't like it. The alien franchise has been routed in Some sort of grounded rule, yes the xenomorph and things from prometheus can be weird at times, they always have some sort of realism to them this is not. It's so outlandish and ridiculous.
Why not just use xenomorph
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 15, 2023, 05:57:00 PMWhy not just use xenomorph
He needs them to be weirder so it's more like Contra, which he's totes never played or even heard of before these threads.
Quote from: Prince77 on Sep 14, 2023, 11:49:02 PMNobody made the Diabolomorphs. They are basically just xenomorphs who evolved and mutated on their own.
Haven't you sent your draft to Vermillion yet?
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 15, 2023, 10:37:26 PMQuote from: Prince77 on Sep 14, 2023, 11:49:02 PMNobody made the Diabolomorphs. They are basically just xenomorphs who evolved and mutated on their own.
Haven't you sent your draft to Vermillion yet?
https://i.ibb.co/qFfWcyY/wwww-ridley-scott-caricature-1-removebg-preview.png
What do you mean?