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Title: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: felix on Dec 18, 2017, 01:23:50 PM
Release Date August 7th 2018.
https://bnccatalist.ca/ViewTitle.aspx?id=11867723
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 18, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Excellent! Glad to hear this is coming!
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: felix on Mar 16, 2018, 09:50:07 PM
Found the cover.

(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/451455/9781785657016_tnmd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Russ840 on Mar 16, 2018, 10:05:41 PM
Cool
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Ultramorph on Mar 16, 2018, 10:08:42 PM
The mouth looks off. I wonder if that's
Spoiler
the genetically modified Predator.
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Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 17, 2018, 12:43:08 AM
Not digging that much
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Whos_Nick on Mar 17, 2018, 01:02:49 AM
Nice find
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: whiterabbit on Mar 17, 2018, 01:17:57 AM
It looks sad for some reason and someone please outline where his mouth is exactly? or is this a chick we're looking at?
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2018, 01:22:35 AM
Looks a bit meh. Wasn't a fan of the single wristblade from predators either...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ThePredatorUK on Mar 17, 2018, 03:17:07 AM
Need to see it in colour to to make a fair judgment
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: KiramidHead on Mar 17, 2018, 04:08:25 AM
Looks fine. It's a little hard to tell what's going on with the mouth on account of the shadows. Beats Scar, if anything.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Huggs on Mar 17, 2018, 04:23:26 AM
Well, I see the mandibles, and one tooth in the upper right. The armor is nice. It looks new, high quality, not dirty or cobbled together. Makes me wonder if this predator has some sort of higher status. That mouth is just odd though. Where's the M.I.B. when you need them.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: whiterabbit on Mar 17, 2018, 06:31:38 AM
So I'm not alone in not being able to see shit... I see, well I'll hold judgment until we get some light onto this thing.  Although I don't like the AVPr feeling I'm getting, lol. Just kidding.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: azamultic on Mar 17, 2018, 06:39:09 AM
Finally  some images of another predator  design!  ;D
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: bobcunk on Mar 17, 2018, 06:54:15 AM
I think his mouth is just opened wide like scar from AVP and I think the other ones we saw are wearing human made armor.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi68.tinypic.com%2F2m7dm6h.jpg&hash=fdb071b82b43a9894bba898b986d9489687eca77)
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Scorpio on Mar 17, 2018, 07:11:48 AM
Never had a problem with the single blade, it's an improvement.  Not for combat, though, but a nice finisher.  It's perfect.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Teddy on Mar 17, 2018, 08:53:03 AM
Looks stupid like scar did in the mandible department. When are they ever going to learn how to make a decent looking predator in the face. Its like after Predator 2 everyone with a sense of design no longer exist. 
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 17, 2018, 09:37:49 AM
Kind of looks like samurai armor.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Mar 17, 2018, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: felix on Mar 16, 2018, 09:50:07 PM
Found the cover.

(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/451455/9781785657016_tnmd.jpg)
I like it, looks like a Predator, and like always, every filmmaker puts their own stamp on it. I prefer the dual blades though.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: D88M on Mar 17, 2018, 11:29:23 AM
Iuck.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 17, 2018, 11:53:35 AM
I really disliked the single blade in predators, a bit disappointed to see it return. Not digging the superhero suit either.

The rest looks good. Hard to see the mouth though. Need to see it on film to really judge.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 17, 2018, 12:27:23 PM
I dont like the image at all. His mouth is from inside somehow totally weird, like when something explode in his mouth or something, just weird. The single wristblade indicate that he is propably somehow connected to the Bad Blood Preds from previous movie, I guess. The armor is not visible enough, but I want to see his chest armor esspecialy, that chest piece remind me a Battle Armored Pred or Borg Pred from NECA. I was expecting something much better, this is a dissapointment for me. I hope that atleast his roar and other sounds will be good. Is this the so called "naturally armored Pred" ? I dont think so.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on Mar 17, 2018, 01:03:16 PM
The armor looks great, I think the lighting is throwing me off from the mouth though. Zooming in I can't really make out what is what in that area.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Ultramorph on Mar 17, 2018, 01:12:17 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure if it's armor or a breathing apparatus, or if the mouth is actually different than a typical Predator. I'm going in with an open mind, and I don't mind seeing the single wrist blade. Predators 2010 deserves some love.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 17, 2018, 01:19:21 PM
His teeth are longer than normally, but because of that lighting we cant see his entire face properly. I dont like the armor, esspecialy the wrist piece, I love the classic wrist armor from P1 or P2, that three things that hold that armor on his arm look bad, It look too small for his body siluete, I dont know. Maybe that colors can help it, but still, its not my cup of tea. Now, i wonder how many Preds are in this movie.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Mar 17, 2018, 02:54:07 PM
They should've gone with different lighting or just not released this image. Can't tell where the teeth are against the sharp contrast of the blurred textures in the mouth. I want Larry Fong to post a better look at a Predator on his Instagram Haha
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 17, 2018, 03:46:34 PM
We have two Preds in human camo and now we have this one, I dont know if this is the different Pred than that two, but there should be still that one major villain Pred and also a lot of other nasty creatures, so who knows how many of them are in the movie. Judging by the actors from IMBD website. . there will be a few Jet-fighter pilots piloting the F-22 or something. . perhaps this indicate that there will be also a Predator spaceship in some contact with military units on the air, sounds interesting. I hope that effects in this movie are practical, not CGI only.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Jigsaw85 on Mar 17, 2018, 05:12:02 PM
Is this the upgrade predator? Doesn't seem any different from any other predator we've seen. Nice to see the single blade wristblade again. Maybe they rewrote the script to make the upgrade just another berserker predator? But his face looks like a classic predator and his armor looks like something out of star trek. I'm so confused. ???
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: KiramidHead on Mar 17, 2018, 05:42:20 PM
In the script, the Upgrade

Spoiler
is immune to damage, and doesn't wear armor.
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They may have found that look didn't play and changed it around.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 17, 2018, 06:12:08 PM
KiramidHead - If they really change the villain (naturaly armored) Pred, how about change also the human clothes that rest of them wear? I think that what you said can be true, well. . if this is not just another different Predator. I think that with the extra footage from March. . they change something that people dont like from the test screening, so I agree with you. But, can you imagine that they reshoot all the scenes where the changes been made? It must be very expensive.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on Mar 17, 2018, 08:59:30 PM
Oh this is a spoiler thread, I'll see my way out. :P
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: black on Mar 17, 2018, 09:56:51 PM
I hope that this has nothing to do with the movie...what the hell is this?How can this be published?And predators in the family are not without an ugly creature :D
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: JD on Mar 18, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Here's something more. https://ibb.co/cU4Usx
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2018, 01:40:10 PM
I think the official Predator twitter account has used that one before. They're mostly meme-ish stuff - I don't think anything has actually been from the new film but I'm not 100%.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2018, 01:40:37 PM
I really like the armor, and i don't think it could be the upgrade, too similar to a classic pred.. Maybe the lone pred...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2018, 01:41:49 PM
Too dark to see for sure but I do like the singular blade. Hopefully we'll get a clearer still of this soon. It is the lone Predator from what we've been told by those in the know.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2018, 01:52:29 PM
Ohh cool ! I really like it !
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 18, 2018, 02:33:01 PM
I am surprised so many peope like the single blade. It looks so much worse/less interesting than the original double blade design. Maybe its just me but it looked so goofy when they were waving them around in predators.

The second film really showed you can design a predator that is unique but that still fits with what we know.

Ill still reserve judgement until i see the movie, but i dont have a good feeling when it comes to the creature designs.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2018, 02:41:01 PM
Honestly i prefer the dual blades overall, but we will see how it is portrayed in this one... IF it is really in the next movie  ;)
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Doomofman on Mar 18, 2018, 03:07:29 PM
I guess this must be the captured predator from the beginning
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Original pred on Mar 18, 2018, 04:05:19 PM
Looks like Batman!!!
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2018, 04:06:27 PM
To me it has a little "samurai" vibe to it, which is cool


It appears that he has some loin cloth in the back
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 18, 2018, 05:24:52 PM
I Accept the single wristblade only if it is the Bad Blood Pred who have it, so. . if this is gonna be the regular Predator, but with a single blade. . I will be hardly dissapointed. I personaly prefer the classic dual blade style, but I liked the fact, that Bad Blood Preds has this single blade, it made them different a lot. I think that having all the Predators with single blade is just stupid idea, use the single blade for Bad ones only and I will be okey with it. I really hope that single blade from Predators film is not so succesfull that it convince the filmmakers to use them only, that's gonna be disaster.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 18, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
Using the single blade as a connection with Bad Blood Preds from previous movie is good point. But only if you keep somehow also the dual blades as well.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Mar 18, 2018, 06:39:50 PM
Yeah, it definitely too hard to make out his mouth
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 18, 2018, 07:03:04 PM
Is it me or does his face look weird ? Like too weird ? His head looks way out of proportion to his body.. another bad sign I think 💭 oh dear fox :(
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2018, 07:22:14 PM
Proportions isn't something we can clearly judge from just one picture, it clearly isn't enough
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: anom on Mar 18, 2018, 09:36:56 PM
does mr h reviews just check out this site and make a youtube video based on the scoops/news here?
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Hey on Mar 18, 2018, 10:49:44 PM
You guys can not seethe top of his head plus he is clearly squating
Maybe that has something to do with him looking small.
Or the guy in the suite is not the actor from the film and is just for testing the thing out

The director of photography for the predator directed a soundgarden video called "fell on black days" this picture reminds me of the look of that video

I have been amazed by the video of free running done by one of the predator actors.. The guy can do flips off of buildings and keep running..
I think he will add a lot to the movement of the predator
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Mar 19, 2018, 12:25:04 AM
I don't think he looks small in that picture, honestly. I agree with BigDaddyJohn, especially after looking at Jungle and City Hunter, it's pretty hard to judge size/proportion with some stills:

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/predator-040.jpg

https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/predator2heroshot1.jpg
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 06:02:16 PM
Hey guys sorry I didn't mean he was small , I meant his head looks to big in proportion to his body .. it's clearly got huge mandibles but maybe it's just me however. But as this being the first look at a pred from the new film , it baffles me why fox chose this image as the first official look at the new predator.. it's a rather strange one , but maybe it's stylised and the final product will look different... but as it stands first impressions don't fill me with excitement unfortunately :(
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2018, 06:04:59 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 06:02:16 PM
Hey guys sorry I didn't mean he was small , I meant his head looks to big in proportion to his body .. it's clearly got huge mandibles but maybe it's just me however. But as this being the first look at a pred from the new film , it baffles me why fox chose this image as the first official look at the new predator.. it's a rather strange one , but maybe it's stylised and the final product will look different... but as it stands first impressions don't fill me with excitement unfortunately :(

I agree it's kinda weird they let this image of their main pred out first, they totally could do it under better circumstances.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2018, 06:33:12 PM
I'm sure they didn't actually mean for this to be the first official look.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Original Predator on Mar 19, 2018, 06:54:22 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2018, 06:33:12 PM
I'm sure they didn't actually mean for this to be the first official look.

Yeah the bat-suit isn't helping. 
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 07:57:36 PM
Hicks I agree , but you have to admit fox are pretty irresponsible and clumsy when it comes to leaks .
I don't know why but they just seem to let so much slip through the net and can't seem to keep a lid on things .. We get very little official marketing, zero in the predators case,  there's isn't even a teaser trailer , yet the whole films script and the predators design has been leaked . We all know what we are getting before even a second of film has been watched . Who's running the show here ? They should be sacked!  😂


Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Original Predator on Mar 19, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 07:57:36 PM
Hicks I agree , but you have to admit fox are pretty irresponsible and clumsy when it comes to leaks .
I don't know why but they just seem to let so much slip through the net and can't seem to keep a lid on things .. We get very little official marketing, zero in the predators case,  there's isn't even a teaser trailer , yet the whole films script and the predators design has been leaked . We all know what we are getting before even a second of film has been watched . Who's running the show here ? They should be sacked!  😂

You make a great point.

I almost wonder if Fox is resigned itself to the "slip-thru-the-cracks" marketing.

Makes me wonder further how "serious" they are in making this movie "legit".  Or if they have resigned themselves to the fact that this may now be a "cult" genre.  I think in general the market seems to be limited when it comes to a sci-fi-creature, which for all intents and purposes the Pred is. 

3 big blows this franchise suffered, that still has it derailed:
-No Dutch sequel tie-in of any kind.  Dutch vs. Pred should have been Ripley vs. Alien, for at least another film.
-Kevin Peter Halls sudden-death
-AVP, putting that concept pen to comic book is one thing, putting that on film....yeeeesh.

But your point is worth bringing up in the main forum.  Would love a conversation piece on that.  Fox in general and what they really care about this movie at this point. I could see Pred going in the "Resident Evil"- cult-mode.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2018, 08:47:30 PM
Quote from: Original Predator on Mar 19, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 07:57:36 PM
Hicks I agree , but you have to admit fox are pretty irresponsible and clumsy when it comes to leaks .
I don't know why but they just seem to let so much slip through the net and can't seem to keep a lid on things .. We get very little official marketing, zero in the predators case,  there's isn't even a teaser trailer , yet the whole films script and the predators design has been leaked . We all know what we are getting before even a second of film has been watched . Who's running the show here ? They should be sacked!  😂

You make a great point.

I almost wonder if Fox is resigned itself to the "slip-thru-the-cracks" marketing.

Makes me wonder further how "serious" they are in making this movie "legit".  Or if they have resigned themselves to the fact that this may now be a "cult" genre.  I think in general the market seems to be limited when it comes to a sci-fi-creature, which for all intents and purposes the Pred is. 

3 big blows this franchise suffered, that still has it derailed:
-No Dutch sequel tie-in of any kind.  Dutch vs. Pred should have been Ripley vs. Alien, for at least another film.
-Kevin Peter Halls sudden-death
-AVP, putting that concept pen to comic book is one thing, putting that on film....yeeeesh.

But your point is worth bringing up in the main forum.  Would love a conversation piece on that.  Fox in general and what they really care about this movie at this point. I could see Pred going in the "Resident Evil"- cult-mode.

Dear Lord please no  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: azamultic on Mar 19, 2018, 08:50:56 PM
I don't think it's a main villain of this movie (Spoiler) I feel like it's design of the captured one).



Original Predator oh noooooo, Predator 1,2, and even predators have more style and better taste than Resident Evil movie franchise ;)
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: goose_3387 on Mar 19, 2018, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 19, 2018, 06:04:59 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 06:02:16 PM
Hey guys sorry I didn't mean he was small , I meant his head looks to big in proportion to his body .. it's clearly got huge mandibles but maybe it's just me however. But as this being the first look at a pred from the new film , it baffles me why fox chose this image as the first official look at the new predator.. it's a rather strange one , but maybe it's stylised and the final product will look different... but as it stands first impressions don't fill me with excitement unfortunately :(

I agree it's kinda weird they let this image of their main pred out first, they totally could do it under better circumstances.

Like Fox were going to be the first to show something official. The script is out there, the first Predator design is out there and still nothing official. I really hope they haven't written this movie off, I still crave a solid Predator movie from them.

For Predators, back in 2009 the crappy set photos were leaked showing the Predator camp and new Predator designs followed by one trailer in the March and a final trailer a week before release. I'm not sure how many people knew of that movies existence...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 10:08:19 PM

@ Original predator

"3 big blows this franchise suffered, that still has it derailed:
-No Dutch sequel tie-in of any kind.  Dutch vs. Pred should have been Ripley vs. Alien, for at least another film.
-Kevin Peter Halls sudden-death
-AVP, putting that concept pen to comic book is one thing, putting that on film...."

I Couldn't agree more . All these points have hurt predator badly as a coherent franchise .

For what it's worth I'm sort of at peace with this film now iv realised fox has given up on predator .

The film is what it is

It's a great shame , but I see the same pattern with predators , prometheus and alien covenant and even alien 5 , having early leaks, little marketing and a rushed release and ultimately a failure,  and it must be a policy of fox to try and ruin the movie before it's come out , sounds backwards I know but that's what is coming across . And I think your right they have simply given up and are probably regretting their investment . Or their marketing team are extremely passive and don't penalise breaches of contract . Either way it sucks for predator, my last bit of hope for him is disneys take over , but if the predator fails , will they even bother with him ?

Original predator I would love other people's input on what this problem at fox is actually about ;)


Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Ultramorph on Mar 19, 2018, 10:08:57 PM
^That's true, I had no idea Predators 2010 existed until a month before it came out.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 19, 2018, 10:19:57 PM
Also I forgot to mention , if Arnold won't come back as Dutch , maybe Disney should reboot predator and start from scratch, so a new Dutch can be in sequels ? remake the original and start from there as your starting point and start building a coherent storyline that is worthy of sequels , i know that by me saying the original should be remade will not make me many friends here , but it is the only way predator can get out of the hole it's in , in terms of true franchise story telling and strong character development .

Maybe it's time ? What else could hurt this franchise  anymore than things have done ? now it has nothing to lose , a new remake might just work .. maybe .


Ironically the dark knight trilogy was a reboot , so it can be done , that's why I have faith the formula could fit nicely with predator . It's dying for a nolan like director , a strong cast , a realistic premise  and a marvel styled budget .
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Oh my god on Mar 20, 2018, 12:04:59 AM
You guys are so dramatic the world is ending sky falling
I am excited for this movie no matter what. At somepoint if they keep making predator films something good will come out of it.
The dark knight made me realise this
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: PredatordiedwithKevin on Mar 20, 2018, 04:47:38 AM
Why bitch about fox? Adi created this atrocity. Single blade is trash and the party city armor is just hilarious. A majority of people here say you can't judge until you see it this film will be a disappointment on the Paul Anderson avp level.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: goose_3387 on Mar 20, 2018, 08:48:06 AM
Quote from: PredatordiedwithKevin on Mar 20, 2018, 04:47:38 AM
Why bitch about fox? Adi created this atrocity. Single blade is trash and the party city armor is just hilarious. A majority of people here say you can't judge until you see it this film will be a disappointment on the Paul Anderson avp level.

Should be interesting to see the reactions when we first see the naked Predator-Human hybrid upgrade thing...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 20, 2018, 12:08:14 PM
Since the Arnold Schwarzenegger is not in the politics anymore, they should and could do a story more focused on his "Dutch" character somehow, for example replace our baby Boyd Holdbrook and add Arnold instead in it. That possibility was 100% here before they even finish their final version of scenario. Why they decided to offer Arnold only a tiny, silly quick cameo in the end of movie is beyond my understanding.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2018, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: greygoose on Mar 20, 2018, 08:48:06 AM
Quote from: PredatordiedwithKevin on Mar 20, 2018, 04:47:38 AM
Why bitch about fox? Adi created this atrocity. Single blade is trash and the party city armor is just hilarious. A majority of people here say you can't judge until you see it this film will be a disappointment on the Paul Anderson avp level.

Should be interesting to see the reactions when we first see the naked Predator-Human hybrid upgrade thing...

He's not that naked  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Original Predator on Mar 20, 2018, 03:20:09 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Mar 19, 2018, 10:08:57 PM
^That's true, I had no idea Predators 2010 existed until a month before it came out.

I remember watching the NBA finals and them having a preview every-other commercial break.  They went on a barrage for a bit but unless you followed this site or others like it, you didn't know it was coming.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Mar 20, 2018, 03:22:57 PM
Quotefor example replace our baby Boyd Holdbrook and add Arnold instead in it

Boyd Holbrook is 36 years old, how is he a baby? Arnold is 70 and was/is busy making Killing Gunther, Triplets, and a journey to China movie (all great scripts simply because he is in a central role). There was a poll here on whether or not fans wanted him in a central role, and as you can see 65% did not choose that option:

Should Arnold Schwarzenegger star in the Predator Sequel?

Yes, as a cameo appearance. (51%)
Yes, as a central role. (35%)
No, not interested. (14%)
Total Voters: 6,841

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/polls/

QuoteWhy they decided to offer Arnold only a tiny, silly quick cameo in the end of movie is beyond my understanding.
Well it was the most popular choice of 6,841 fans  :P
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Jesscobb on Mar 20, 2018, 04:59:51 PM
http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3489405/additional-filming-begun-predator-teaser-coming-soon/
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 20, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
Hollywood -You act like they should do everything what fans want, yet they still made pretty nonsense things judging by the script, things that fans never ever want or even think about. I will rather see Arnold in the lead role instead of Predators in human cargo pants, do I need to continue? You are still forget on the fact that Arnold was asking Shane if they want to change the scenario in order to give him more potential in it, so Arnold propably has that time for it, why he will be asking in the first place if he will be busy? Another fact is, that they dont want to change the story just for Arnold, so. . I dont need to think anymore about anything here, actualky everything is obvious.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 20, 2018, 05:35:48 PM
And yes, Boyd Holdbrook is just a baby for me, I dont have anything against him as a person. But his face and overall look just doesnt convince me that he can fit in this movie, especially as the lead actor. How many movies that guy has behind him? I dont even think that he has that much experience as an actor. They wanted the Benicio Del Toro previously instead him, and I think that was far better and convincing idea, I was dissapointed when they said tha Benicio dont be in it.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: goose_3387 on Mar 20, 2018, 06:11:59 PM
I like Boyd. Thought he was good in Narcos.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Mar 20, 2018, 06:36:18 PM
QuoteHollywood -You act like they should do everything what fans want
No, not really, especially since many fans don't agree on a lot of things. I simply pointed out why it's not ridiculous to give Arnold a cameo - because it was actually a popular opinion.

Quoteyet they still made pretty nonsense things judging by the script, things that fans never ever want or even think about. I will rather see Arnold in the lead role instead of Predators in human cargo pants, do I need to continue?
How about the actual choice of Arnold or Boyd Holbrook, though? I honestly feel we have enough old guy action movies lol there's always the expendables and Bruce Willis' next sleepwalk if that's what people are looking for.

QuoteYou are still forget on the fact that Arnold was asking Shane if they want to change the scenario in order to give him more potential in it, so Arnold propably has that time for it, why he will be asking in the first place if he will be busy?
I didnt forget, the point was he will do work as long as he's in the central role, the quality of which is questionable. I'm sure people will say Arnold being the main character would've been better no matter what but I'd disagree based on his recent work. If he'd rather do Killing Gunther or something instead of a cameo in a Predator film there's no big worries for him or Shane.

True they wanted Del Toro first but they clearly see something in Holbrook (there's a story Fox is giving him the green light to star in and write a thriller called 'Thirst'), plus I think he was good in Logan. He wasn't the standout in Narcos but he also wasn't an issue for me with the way he looks.


He was good in Narcos, I only say he wasn't the standout because I'm a big fan of Pedro Pascal. I watched the series before Boyd was announced as the lead here though so maybe I'll rewatch and pay better attention haha
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 20, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
Usually I'm against it , as I think normally it's a cash in , but I think predator is different, it needs a reboot, I honestly believe the Disney take over will prove to be the best thing for predator/alien in the long run . But I think they should scrap the current universe and build a new one centred around Dutch , from the ground up in order to create worthy sequels that are coherent.

As iv said batman has been rebooted and turned out to be an absolute gem with the dark knight trilogy, the new planet of the apes comes to mind here too ,  I see no reason why predator can't do the same .
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 20, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
ELDERCLANLEADER - A Predator reboot or remake? Are you serious? Reboots are vital if you want to do something better or different against the original that was somehow destroyed or totally forget by audience, I mean. . mostly the reboots are trying to fix something that was a previous disaster. There are only two movie reboots that I respect, Peter Jackson's King kong and Dawn of The Dead, these two movies respected their original and their new versions is even better. Of course you never cant beat the classic, but why reboot a Predator? We have only three standalone Predator movies (I dont count AVP) and these three movies are fairly done. First one is masterpiece, and second one is slightly behind it, the third one is ok (by the way I love all of them somehow) so. . why reboot such a short franchise already? Maybe after the fourth one from Shane we could start think about it. . depending on the overall movie success, I mean. . if we really ended up with a young boy wearing a Predator eguipment. . maybe that we really should reboot it in order to forget this latest crazy story, but why reboot it right now? We should rather continue with the established Predator franchise forward. . but it seems that even this is not true - judging by the leaked script. . we can say that this movie will try to change fundamental ideas way too much and too hard (without any fear behind it) so. . maybe that you have right even if I dont want to accept that, but only if the Shane's film really will be that bad. There is still a small chance that the so called leaked script could be just a bad joke, you know. . just maybe. Oh, and I agree with you on the Dark Knight trilogy as you said, but still. . I dont like reboots and remakes in general, on the other hand. . look on the new Ghostbusters, new Total Recall or new Conan, reboots are not always the best idea.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 20, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Of course a new remake would respect its source material , but loads and loads of masterpieces have been rehashes , scarface was a remake yet it's Iconic, King Kong is definitely a masterpiece , how many great batman films are there ? I'm talking to you mr Tim burton!  ;) 2017's IT is a remake and it's another masterpiece , all these films respected their source material. My point is a predator remake in with the right director could very definitely work. Now Disney own the predator franchise this may become a reality , perhaps that's why fox have been so leaky and careless , because they don't care anymore it's not their loss ? It's now disneys .
Hypothetically speaking there's nothing to stop Disney incorporating Predator into marvel , they could even just pull the plug on the film altogether if they wanted to . Sad but true because what's to stop them ?
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 21, 2018, 01:08:45 AM
I will rather somehow continue with it, with that what we have. Nothing is so bad here, nothing is damaged, standalone Predator movies are so far good, I really dont want to see any reboot in the style of making another military group in the jungle again, or another cop story like in the second movie, I think that "reboot" should be rather another good continuation. Because there really isnt much for rebooting here, personaly Im gonna start thinking about any reboot only when Shane's upcoming Predator end up being the worst of the all four movies. . I still hope that leaked script was just a joke, even when I dont trust this theory that much, because Predator is in part of my heart. At this moment, a tons of my friends just cant believe how bad that script sound, trailer or teaser is hardly needed here. I was never in my life so nervous about any other movie as I am now. Yeah, its very important for me.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: newagescamartist on Mar 21, 2018, 01:19:19 AM
Rebooting Predator would be like rebooting Robocop. Besides, Predators was a soft-reboot and so is The Predator.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Dan on Mar 21, 2018, 01:50:30 AM
Arnold's new Terminator's filming delayed from late march to mid june so he's got time to film a few scenes for The Predator so he has time if they decided to have him in the movie.
I would like to see him playing the veteran Dutch.
There's so much could be about him and what happened with him in the last 30 years.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Nice find dan on Mar 21, 2018, 06:36:41 AM
it would be nice if arnold was at the area52 place with the high death toll that fred decker indicated is having reshoots at .
Maybe arnold surveys the after math or helps kill the predator doing all the slaughtering
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2018, 03:15:30 PM
Unfortunately Arnold has often (if not always) been cheesy in his recent "roles" so i don't trust him in order to appear in a believable manner in this movie...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 21, 2018, 04:59:22 PM
Hom much cheesy is small child with Predator helmet on its face, I mean. . everything we know about this movie so far do not sound seriously like something most of us wants, it sound more like a comedy if not a tragedy, I dont think that Arnold could made it even worst, lol. But I understand your point about his recent roles, question is how bad the movie really is, it could be only rumor.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 21, 2018, 05:08:08 PM
This is why I think a remake is needed , what predator lacks more than anything is a story that has a beginning middle and an end. Arnie just isn't quite what he once was , I would rather see someone else play Dutch altogether,   build a brand new story out of him , that has continuation and weight and make a trilogy ,
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Dan on Mar 21, 2018, 06:52:04 PM
If Arnie gets a great direction he is not cheesy.
That what could work really cool with Black if he's got a more serious role in the second half of the movie than a cameo.

In the new Terminator Tim Miller and James Cameron will make Arnie great again.I hope.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 21, 2018, 08:42:10 PM
No, I absolutely disagree, First Predator film portrait the Dutch in the best possible way, no one ever will be capable to replace one of the Arnold's best role, practically role from the best years of his entire life (same as Terminator) At this point. . anyone who has the same opinion about this is for me a person that I have zero interest to communicate, we cant be sure about the actuall quality of THIS movie. . and there are already people that will rather believe in the quality of any possible reboot? I have strong feeling that this idea must be suported only by a bunch of younger people or something, no one in my age will ever suport this BS. Sorry guys but this is dull idea, someone here really dont understand the term of word "masterpiece". Thats the word I used with the context with first Predator.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 21, 2018, 08:47:27 PM
Dan - I agree, no reboot, but continuation with Arnold in it, with proper introduction - Arnold is pure Gem, we know how serious he can be, his Age thanks to him also isnt that big deal.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Flap Jack on Mar 21, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
Disney/FOX deal isn't even done yet.. It will actually take a couple of years if (with question mark) they close it - so let me be very clear here. Disney still does not own FOX and it's assets.
So they don't have even remotely any saying in Predator franchise.. There is even big possibility that Disney won't even be allowed to buy FOX (regulations and so on)..

Unfortunatelly english is not my native language but i hope you guys understand this

Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 22, 2018, 01:07:49 AM
Petr eveything in the media these days are repeats of yesteryear , to me spiderman 2 was a ciniematic masterpiece , Tobey nailed spiderman , does that mean I don't like Tom holland ? Of course not, deadpool was a modern masterpiece, are you telling me ryan Reynolds will be the only person to play deadpool ?    . Arnold hasn't shown much love to predator , I don't understand why some people are so touchy about him being recast . Yes the original was a classic and is iconic , but that doesn't mean it can't be improved and modernised , with a background story fleshed out this time round. I hate to say it but reboots and remakes by Hollywood , book writers and most of media is nothing new , how many times has universal rebooted and remade the mummy ?  How many films about titanic was made by Hollywood before we got to James Cameron's ? How many times has Shakespeare's plays been retold and modernised ?I totally understand what makes a masterpiece petr , I'm just not close minded on what can be achieved.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: acrediblesource on Mar 22, 2018, 02:08:49 AM
  Josh Brolin Vs Predator
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 22, 2018, 02:22:05 AM
Josh brolin would be awesome as a new Dutch ..
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: newagescamartist on Mar 23, 2018, 01:09:55 AM
I'm with Petr. No point whatsoever remaking Predator. It's pretty much a perfect movie. The music, the visual effects, the cast, the acting, the direction, the pacing, the well placed humor...it's a masterpiece.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: KiramidHead on Mar 23, 2018, 01:27:13 AM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 22, 2018, 02:22:05 AM
Josh brolin would be awesome as a new Dutch ..

Thanos would be the ultimate prey...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 23, 2018, 04:48:33 AM
There is a point in remaking / rebooting predator though , right now we have four films , one is great the rest are questionable and none of them are coherent, and as good as the first was , it was made without a sequel in mind ,  none of them link together to create a story of any worth or emotional clout or weight . The first was a straight up 80s action movie , it didn't need to rely on a complicated story , and that's fine but as soon as you turn it into a franchise you need a story that links everything together , and predator just doesn't have this .  This is the ONLY reason why I think a remake is needed , so you have a strong starting point to create worthy sequels in the future , and develop strong characters,  and not just half baked creature features , but can carry a story that the viewer can emotionally invest in and feel part of. People need to get of their bike , stop being so touchy and see the potential. The original predator will always be there regardless , it's not going anywhere , it will always be iconic , but remaking the original in order to flesh out a universe for the franchise and bringing it to a new audience is the kind of thing this franchise needs badly. And I fail to see why this is bad for a franchise that has already become jaded and neglected.

It needs better foundations , in order to build a better sky scraper.. so to speak..
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 23, 2018, 10:54:59 AM
Predator dont need to be there for a new audience, there are tons and tons of fans that still remember the first movie. I know there are bad reboots and good reboots. But, let's just look at the new rebooted Robocop, Is there anyone, even only one person who like this new latest version of Robocop? Latest Robocop movie created mainly for new audience totally ruined the seriously respected original, original Robocop same as Predator is just untouchable. . no one should ever try to fight with it. Predator doesnt need any story that will be connecting all the movies strictly together. Predator story is story about conflict, and this concflict is always happening somewhere else on the planet depending on where our Predator goes. Each conflict is different, location, environment, players and even the Predator itself is not the same one each time. We should have some connectivity between the movies yeah, I agree. But I think that we already have some connection. We have something like CIA, a company that study Predator's global activity on the Earth (P2 reference) and that should be enough. Of course that all that people who survived against the Predator cant be just in one group against him, that will be stupid, especially when all the people have different nationality. But, I am in love with this actual concept that we already have. I will rather stay with this. We really dont need that much any human characters to be there in order to connect these films all together, especially when we dont have the same actors like before (Im talking about you Arnold). I know that Dutch could be there, sure. . but if you want a real connection, than Dutch should be played only by Arnold once again. In this case. . reboot doesnt fix anything, reboot actually only damage the small connection that we already have here.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 23, 2018, 11:18:26 AM
Jesus. No one here is touchy, everyone see the potential. But you should rather start think about possible damage that such a reboot could do. Most of us have fear about this movie just because the script, and you dont have any fear when you're already talking about reboot. Funny, you just 100% believe in the quality and success of the possible reboot. . but, what do we gonna do if its gonna be a bad reboot, huh? There are still low number of good remakes against the higher number of bad remakes, facts. And by the way, sometimes you cant just recreate something that is totally unique and almost perfect in its core. Sometimes its impossible to even try that. Same like old classic music, Bethoven or Mozart, why we dont have such a talens now?
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 23, 2018, 04:37:44 PM
Petr I think your underestimating what can be done if the right director/cast comes along with the right creativity , I agree reboots and remakes usually fail , but not always . I used many great examples to show this point . There is a lot of room with predator to work around , and as iv said there's no reason why it can't work . I only feel a remake is crucial in order for more connected sequels and creating a rich universe. As I have said out of the four films , one was a success the rest are questionable. So clearly the current formula isn't working . There has to be point when you accept new life needs to be injected into it , I.e a fresh take.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Dan on Mar 23, 2018, 05:49:08 PM
I don't think predator franchise needs a reboot.
The new movie was announced in 2014 june and we got if four years later and 8 years after Predators.The movie completes very slowly.If they decide to reboot that would be a few years again but thats right Petr that we haven't seen the film so we first have to see how it works.
That universe building for this franchise could also work with Holbrook's character if the movie is successful.
Josh Brolin was also rumored for the  role of McKenna next to Franco, Affleck and  Del Toro if I'm right.
I'm still wondering how Del Toro's McKenna could have been.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: newagescamartist on Mar 25, 2018, 07:04:06 AM
Speaking of Robocop, a new one with Peter Weller would make me absolutely geek out. Huge potential there with the right script. Weller's biggest gripe was the suit, and I'm sure with modern technology they could make the suit more user friendly. Someone needs to get this greenlit.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: germanator2 on Mar 25, 2018, 01:25:55 PM
I like the design here. It's a little different, but change is good and the spirit of the original design is still there as well. It is said that this is the "Upgrade" Predator, as they call it in the script, something similar to the Berserker Predator. I do like the design better than the Super Predators from Predators. I don't mind the single wrist blade either. It seems more practical anyway. You can get a cleaner cut with one than with two. Despite what many have said about the script, my interest is definitely piqued here. Hope the trailer comes out soon
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 25, 2018, 03:02:28 PM
germanator2 - People are saying this should be the captured Pred, not the upgrade. The upgrade Pred should be more different, bigger, heavier and I guess propably with totally unique, new face design. Well, If the film makers doesn't change anything, because we still dont know exactly how many of them are in the movie. +Plus, this image can be also only a nonexistent concept, something like an early version of first Predator costume, final version can be different. . this is still only a picture after all, we dont know yet. Oh, and btw. Oliwia Munn and Shane Black share some pictures, videos on their instagram profiles, if I'm right. Nothing important, just photos from the set, but I like the forest environment around them. Its one of the first thing I like about this movie, lol. Im still super worried about everything.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 25, 2018, 04:45:33 PM
Quote from: Petr Švancara on Mar 25, 2018, 03:02:28 PM
germanator2 - People are saying this should be the captured Pred, not the upgrade. The upgrade Pred should be more different, bigger, heavier and I guess propably with totally unique, new face design. Well, If the film makers doesn't change anything, because we still dont know exactly how many of them are in the movie. +Plus, this image can be also only a nonexistent concept, something like an early version of first Predator costume, final version can be different. . this is still only a picture after all, we dont know yet. Oh, and btw. Oliwia Munn and Shane Black share some pictures, videos on their instagram profiles, if I'm right. Nothing important, just photos from the set, but I like the forest environment around them. Its one of the first thing I like about this movie, lol. Im still super worried about everything.

Spoiler
There is four preds in this movie
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Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 26, 2018, 06:28:42 PM
BigDaddyJohn - Nothing new for me, I know bro. But we still cant be 100% sure about them until we see the movie. So, there isnt anything confirmed or official here. Maybe there are more of them, even if we dont know that yet. For example, how many Predators we have in first AVP? I think that there are technically 7 of them. The first three from ancient times, after them another three in modern time, plus the Elder Pred in the end, the rest of them in the end I really dont count, lol. Its a highest number yet, but their quality was really low, I was hardly dissapointed when I see the Scar Predator's face for the first time, I hate that plastic feeling, it hurts.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Mar 26, 2018, 06:38:35 PM
Oops, I made a mistake. There was even more Predators from the second film. City Hunter, Elder, Borg, Boar, Stalker, Warrior, Snake, Guardian and Shaman. 9 Preds from the P2 if Im right. Lol, we got less Predators with each movie, interesting fact.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 28, 2018, 05:23:31 PM
Still not banking on this being a classic ...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Mar 28, 2018, 08:12:08 PM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1785657011/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522267770&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=the+predator+the+art+and+making&dpPl=1&dpID=51SDH2-VY2L&ref=plSrch#immersive-view_1522267831758

Higher resolution
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Post by: Wweyland on Mar 28, 2018, 08:13:59 PM
That is a true pussyface.
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Post by: KiramidHead on Mar 28, 2018, 08:53:27 PM
Yeah, it looks fine now that we have a better image to go off of.
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Post by: ace3g on Mar 28, 2018, 09:00:04 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91-9QrSC%2BGL.jpg)

*Added img tags. Hicks.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on Mar 29, 2018, 12:17:06 AM
Despite everything iv said , I have to agree , the predator looks pretty good tbh :)
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Apr 22, 2018, 06:55:57 PM
Will buy the book, but damn sceptical about the story and how it will tackle the originals...
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 20, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
Just got a notification from Amazon.co.uk that this has been pushed back to October 2nd.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 21, 2018, 08:56:59 AM
Shit.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 21, 2018, 09:02:37 AM
I got the same notification for the Official Collector's thing but it seems to be out in the States. Maybe it's just a UK thing.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 21, 2018, 10:42:13 AM
Last I checked it should be out around the 25th world wide. The Dutch Bol.com said it would be delivered between 14-18th of september, but the product pages is on a steady 25th.

No rush though.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: felix on Sep 24, 2018, 12:39:08 PM
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/tear-into-our-sneak-peek-at-titan-books-the-predator-the-art-and-making-of-the-film
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 24, 2018, 04:22:28 PM
My copy will be arriving tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 24, 2018, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: felix on Sep 24, 2018, 12:39:08 PM
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/tear-into-our-sneak-peek-at-titan-books-the-predator-the-art-and-making-of-the-film
Half the thumbnails result in errors in the images. But the book should be here soon.


Site said 25th this morning, switched to the first of october here too.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 26, 2018, 02:25:17 AM
I got the book today and it's pretty neat. You can kind of gauge where in production the book was written based on what it includes, and it actually seems to cover most of the movie as we ended up seeing it on-screen. I haven't gone page by page through it, but one notable omission is
Spoiler
the Predator Killer nano-suit
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but I'm not surprised by that. From my brief glance through it, it looks like all the character deaths featured are the same.

The concept art is neat, and there's some annotations regarding why certain design choices were made. There are a bunch of really high quality close-up photos of the Fugitive Predator's gear, a deck plan of his ship, CGI models for the Preda-dogs, all kinds of stuff.

I'm a sucker for movie concept art books as a way to get a glimpse at the evolving design process; generally the movie doesn't even have to be that good as long as it's visually interesting. I've got the art books for AvP and Terminator Salvation, and they're both full of really neat stuff.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:34:18 AM
You thought the film was visually interesting?

I can't say I empathise.

Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Naginata on Sep 26, 2018, 02:42:07 AM
^ The designs for most of the stuff were kinda cool, I thought.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 26, 2018, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:34:18 AM
You thought the film was visually interesting?

I can't say I empathise.


I think he means the books. I mean I kind of liked Salvation, but I imagine the book exploring more of that world than ended up on screen.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 26, 2018, 08:56:03 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Sep 26, 2018, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:34:18 AM
You thought the film was visually interesting?

I can't say I empathise.


I think he means the books. I mean I kind of liked Salvation, but I imagine the book exploring more of that world than ended up on screen.
Yeah. Like it's not like this art book is as good as 'David's Drawings', or the art book for, say, Blade Runner 2049, but I still feel like I'm getting my money's worth and I don't regret buying it at all.

Quote from: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:34:18 AM
You thought the film was visually interesting?

I can't say I empathise.


The close-up photos and design ideas in the book for the Fugitive's armor and equipment is super-cool.

Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 26, 2018, 01:56:48 PM
All I need to hear.

Another week will be ok.

Davids Drawings is next.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:04:20 PM
I wasn't aware that Blade Runner had an artbook, thank you for letting me know.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: HybridNewborn on Sep 26, 2018, 02:21:03 PM
Was a little disappointed that, unless I missed it, there was no mention of the Lex's Spear prop in the book.

One thing it did inform me of though, was that there was a half-busted shoulder-cannon in the case with the two helmets, which I thought was neat, and answered my question of "I wonder what happened with that after Requiem?"
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:24:01 PM
It's not the Requiem Plasma Caster.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: HybridNewborn on Sep 26, 2018, 02:32:21 PM
Shhhhhhush

Let me have this :P
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 26, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:04:20 PM
I wasn't aware that Blade Runner had an artbook, thank you for letting me know.
There's one for BR2049, and it's fantastic. One of the better movie art books I've got.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 26, 2018, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 26, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 26, 2018, 02:04:20 PM
I wasn't aware that Blade Runner had an artbook, thank you for letting me know.
There's one for BR2049, and it's fantastic. One of the better movie art books I've got.
Still on my list.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Oct 01, 2018, 07:04:55 PM
Website is stating a 8-9 day delivery time now, almost sold out, but at the same time I got a mail it is being sent today.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 02, 2018, 09:54:14 AM
Apparently Amazon are "still trying to obtain the item(s) which you ordered". I'm going into town at the weekend so hopefully I'll find a copy at Waterstones or Forbidden Planet.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Keyes on Oct 02, 2018, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 02, 2018, 09:54:14 AM
Apparently Amazon are "still trying to obtain the item(s) which you ordered". I'm going into town at the weekend so hopefully I'll find a copy at Waterstones or Forbidden Planet.

Hmm this is odd. I wonder if the other Collector's Edition book is released today too?
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Oct 02, 2018, 07:04:08 PM
My copy arrived today, just flipped throug it. Somewhat sad that it became more promotional for the film it it's current state than offer various designs for the film. What they do have on the designs is far and few between.

What is there, is of good quality though. Just don't expect creatures designed for the ark, various explorations of the predator.

Lot's of text to wade through too, which is OK since it's also a making off book. The quotes on some of the design choices just cement my impression that they tried to be new and fresh for the sake of it, while offering no explanation of the why and need for it.

Still a worthy buy at 27-33 euro's worth, just don't expect the level of close ups and variation the AvP books offered.

There's heaps of artwork not in here that I would love to see in the same quality of print though.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: The Old One on Oct 02, 2018, 07:10:48 PM
Unfortunate, Pass.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: ace3g on Oct 03, 2018, 02:22:48 AM
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1047231836265611266
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on Oct 03, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Fingers crossed all the artists are allowed to post their stuff on this show.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2018, 08:40:27 AM
Another update from Amazon, revised delivery >>

QuoteEstimated arrival date: October 24 2018 - November 22 2018

Absolute joke. Waterstones best have a copy in.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: felix on Oct 04, 2018, 01:58:36 PM
It came out last week in Singapore.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: proto leech on Oct 04, 2018, 08:39:16 PM
Got mine. Disappointing but there are a few good concepts sprinkled throughout. Like most artbook attempts you get waaaaaaay too many two page spreads of shane black pointing in the distance or just boring production photos of enviornments. Not nearly enough actual predator art.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 07, 2018, 09:52:01 AM
No sign of the book in Waterstones or Forbidden Planet. Sigh. Gave up and ordered from eBay.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Kailem on Oct 07, 2018, 10:15:43 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's no concept or other artwork of the spider hybrids or any of the other crazy creatures that got cut?
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 07, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Oct 07, 2018, 10:15:43 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's no concept or other artwork of the spider hybrids or any of the other crazy creatures that got cut?
Not that I saw when I paged through it. It pretty much stuck to stuff that ended up on-screen.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Keyes on Oct 08, 2018, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 07, 2018, 09:52:01 AM
No sign of the book in Waterstones or Forbidden Planet. Sigh. Gave up and ordered from eBay.

I tried to find it in once more in town over the weekend with no luck. Ordered this and the Collector's Edition book from Wordery instead now.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: bobcunk on Oct 10, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
hears a look inside.

Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: spinksy on Oct 12, 2018, 01:18:24 PM
I can echo a lot of what I've read on this book - it's disappointing. 

There is literally NO images of the upgrade in his final design. none!

It's more about the filming locations from what I've seen (only got it this morning), I've scanned every page looking for certain things (such as the upgrade) but not much is here that I actually want to see.

What a shame!
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 12, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: bobcunk on Oct 10, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
hears a look inside.



Thanks for sharing this. This book appears to be more "Making Of" than "Art".  You helped me decide if its worthy to fork over some cash on this or not. Appreciate it!
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: bobcunk on Oct 12, 2018, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 12, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: bobcunk on Oct 10, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
hears a look inside.



Thanks for sharing this. This book appears to be more "Making Of" than "Art".  You helped me decide if its worthy to fork over some cash on this or not. Appreciate it!
your welcome. This is not my video by the way, I'm not trying h to take credit for it.
Title: Re: The Art and Making of The Predator
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 12, 2018, 04:29:25 PM
Quote from: bobcunk on Oct 12, 2018, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 12, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: bobcunk on Oct 10, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
hears a look inside.



Thanks for sharing this. This book appears to be more "Making Of" than "Art".  You helped me decide if its worthy to fork over some cash on this or not. Appreciate it!
your welcome. This is not my video by the way, I'm not trying h to take credit for it.

Just you sharing it was a big help, nevertheless!