Just came across these new images: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/05/06/movies/20120506-OVERBYE-6.html (http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/05/06/movies/20120506-OVERBYE-6.html)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120506-OVERBYE-slide-O3AS-slide.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120506-OVERBYE-slide-LS4U-slide.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120506-OVERBYE-slide-6S8R-slide.jpg)
The audio puzzle: http://www.blogbusters.ch/sidekicks/exklusiv-entdecke-prometheus-das-special-zum-sci-fi-event-des-jahres/ (http://www.blogbusters.ch/sidekicks/exklusiv-entdecke-prometheus-das-special-zum-sci-fi-event-des-jahres/)
http://www.blogbusters.ch/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DiscoveringPrometheus_CrewTransmission.mp3 (http://www.blogbusters.ch/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DiscoveringPrometheus_CrewTransmission.mp3)
Well that audio is nice and disturbing. Someone is having a very bad day when it's played in reverse.
I get the feeling we're going to shit our collective pants when those
Spoiler
python/cobra xenos start getting inside people and having parties.
Jesus
Christ.
Anyone recognize the male victims voice? Is that Fifield or the guy with glasses?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10954836/Reverse.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10954836/Reverse.mp3)
This is a
straight reversal, so the parts that are playing forward in the other section are backward.
The part that freaks me the most is
Spoiler
"No you're making it worse! It's breaking my arm!"
That sounds utterly horrific.
OOOHHHHHH SHIT!!!!
If the scene is played like that without music and is as visually effectuive as it sounds this is gonna be awesome!!!!
LoL the snake part already killed it for me,
im not scared of them and they arent scary its to me a turn off when i saw that stupid looking snake.
One thing what is looking strange is that the body type structure of the engineer looks like the body of the xeno,
what if eggs werent made for breeding xeno´s but to bring back the engineer people,
but it went wrong and the xeno was born instead and the fleeing jockey didnt know what to do with those sick badass xeno´s explains why they are smart.
That was pretty damn creepy! I'm curious about the "It's breaking my arm!" quote as well.
Quote from: Sigglas on May 02, 2012, 01:53:11 PM
That was pretty damn creepy! I'm curious about the "It's breaking my arm!" quote as well.
Just like a boa constrictor. It seems to combine several snake-like traits.
I'm thinking this is where the whole helmet melting thing comes from;
Spoiler
"CUT IT OFF!" Someone tries and we get, well...
"Acid for blood."
...sweet jeebus. :D
that was creeeeeepyyyyyyyyyyyy
DO NOT GO EAT BEFORE VIEWING THE MOVIE! :o
The most horrible part for me is .33 to .36 on normal playback
Im so hyped. TY RS!
I'm not somebody who is horrified easily, but that audio clip has genuinely freaked the shit out of me. Hairs on the back of the neck and everything!
Thanks again for the post, iKarop.
dear God. That's horrifying.
oh shit this is going to be br00tal :o
they should have released just this audio file as a trailer for the movie haha
That is F***ING MENTAL
I'm not squeamish at all, but that just sounds incredible - I cannot wait to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow those a cool new stills ;D.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: Sigglas on May 02, 2012, 01:53:11 PM
That was pretty damn creepy! I'm curious about the "It's breaking my arm!" quote as well.
Just like a boa constrictor. It seems to combine several snake-like traits.
I'm thinking this is where the whole helmet melting thing comes from;
Spoiler
"CUT IT OFF!" Someone tries and we get, well...
"Acid for blood."
It's Milburn who seems to have had the unfortunate run in.
Fifield's telling him : "I ain't touching it!"
Can't say as I blame him by the sounds of things.
Quote from: Infected on May 02, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
One thing what is looking strange is that the body type structure of the engineer looks like the body of the xeno,
what if eggs werent made for breeding xeno´s but to bring back the engineer people,
but it went wrong and the xeno was born instead and the fleeing jockey didnt know what to do with those sick badass xeno´s explains why they are smart.
The suit ressemble xenos because all their tech is based on the same design.
It is not their body stucture just their suits.
In the french SFX magazine Connor O'Sullivan the prosthetic supervisor explains at first how he made the undersuit (wich has 32 parts from head to toes, then the full pilot suit wich attach by magnets to the undersuit, then talks about how he was nerveous about the scene where an Engineer is almost fully naked and go on about their physique wich is close to a greek statue, that specific greek profile nose and symetrical face.
:)
Quote from: NGR01 on May 02, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: Infected on May 02, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
One thing what is looking strange is that the body type structure of the engineer looks like the body of the xeno,
what if eggs werent made for breeding xeno´s but to bring back the engineer people,
but it went wrong and the xeno was born instead and the fleeing jockey didnt know what to do with those sick badass xeno´s explains why they are smart.
The suit ressemble xenos because all their tech is based on the same design.
It is not their body stucture just their suits.
In the french SFX magazine Connor O'Sullivan the prosthetic supervisor explains at first how he made the undersuit (wich has 32 parts from head to toes, then the full pilot suit wich attach by magnets to the undersuit, then talks about how he was nerveous about the scene where an Engineer is almost fully naked and go on about their physique wich is close to a greek statue, that specific greek profile nose and symetrical face.
:)
So here is a pretty good explained how jockeys/engineer looks like. Like us. Or more like the ancient people (greece/summeria.babylon).
Hopefully the movie keeps the tunnel they are walking through much darker... in that light it looks far to mechanical, and not nearly biological enough. You can't put a crappy looking spine on the roof, and then have the rest look like a normal metal tunnel and still get the vibe...
I'm sure in the movie they will edit it to look creepy...
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 02, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
Hopefully the movie keeps the tunnel they are walking through much darker... in that light it looks far to mechanical, and not nearly biological enough. You can't put a crappy looking spine on the roof, and then have the rest look like a normal metal tunnel and still get the vibe...
I'm sure in the movie they will edit it to look creepy...
It allready looks creepy now :)
One good thing about that shot though is that gun the merc is holding back there doesn't look like a pulse rifle with a barrel extension taped on the front. ;D
Quote from: psychonaut25 on May 02, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 02, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
Hopefully the movie keeps the tunnel they are walking through much darker... in that light it looks far to mechanical, and not nearly biological enough. You can't put a crappy looking spine on the roof, and then have the rest look like a normal metal tunnel and still get the vibe...
I'm sure in the movie they will edit it to look creepy...
It allready looks creepy now :)
Not in the picture just released where the tunnel is lit up... I remember when I first watched Alien, the interior of the derelict looked like the walls were made of a rib cage. The floor didn't seem normal either, like it was hard to figure out how to walk on sections. The picture just released shows a very normal looking tunnel (normal for a sci-fi movie) and even the spine feature at the top looks more like a metal duct, than a spine.
Quote from: ikarop on May 02, 2012, 01:04:03 PM
Just came across these new images: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/05/06/movies/20120506-OVERBYE-6.html (http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/05/06/movies/20120506-OVERBYE-6.html)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120506-OVERBYE-slide-O3AS-slide.jpg
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120506-OVERBYE-slide-LS4U-slide.jpg
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120506-OVERBYE-slide-6S8R-slide.jpg
The audio puzzle: http://www.blogbusters.ch/sidekicks/exklusiv-entdecke-prometheus-das-special-zum-sci-fi-event-des-jahres/ (http://www.blogbusters.ch/sidekicks/exklusiv-entdecke-prometheus-das-special-zum-sci-fi-event-des-jahres/)
http://www.blogbusters.ch/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DiscoveringPrometheus_CrewTransmission.mp3 (http://www.blogbusters.ch/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DiscoveringPrometheus_CrewTransmission.mp3)
shivers down my spine, and a tear to my eye.
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 02, 2012, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on May 02, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 02, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
Hopefully the movie keeps the tunnel they are walking through much darker... in that light it looks far to mechanical, and not nearly biological enough. You can't put a crappy looking spine on the roof, and then have the rest look like a normal metal tunnel and still get the vibe...
I'm sure in the movie they will edit it to look creepy...
It allready looks creepy now :)
Not in the picture just released where the tunnel is lit up... I remember when I first watched Alien, the interior of the derelict looked like the walls were made of a rib cage. The floor didn't seem normal either, like it was hard to figure out how to walk on sections. The picture just released shows a very normal looking tunnel (normal for a sci-fi movie) and even the spine feature at the top looks more like a metal duct, than a spine.
Tthe tunnel is very lit up, so it looks normal. I have no problem with it. in the final movie cut, everything will be very very creepy.
Holy shit, that audio clip was brutal! :o Definitely gonna enjoy watching that scene in theaters, especially if there isn't any music like what someone else suggested already, and we just get the visual sight to go with that horrifying audio.
Seeing as how I intend on going to the midnight premiere for this movie, my long time assumption that I will not be getting any sleep that night is now pretty much confirmed.
And here's something to think about that will keep everyone awake at night; this isn't even supposed to be the scene(s) that Ridley feels will be to Prometheus what the Chestburster Scene was to Alien.
Quote from: TimmyTurnersDad on May 02, 2012, 04:12:34 PM
Holy shit, that audio clip was brutal! :o Definitely gonna enjoy watching that scene in theaters, especially if there isn't any music like what someone else suggested already, and we just get the visual sight to go with that horrifying audio.
Seeing as how I intend on going to the midnight premiere for this movie, my long time assumption that I will not be getting any sleep that night is now pretty much confirmed.
And here's something to think about that will keep everyone awake at night; this isn't even supposed to be the scene(s) that Ridley feels will be to Prometheus what the Chestburster Scene was to Alien.
I have a feeling that this is right. That after leaving the cinema I will be having that what the hell happened?/ feeling for whole night. :) This movie will be a MUST BUY when it will be released on Blu-ray for me.
It's very lit because it's shot in 3D thats all.
In 3D with the glasses on it will work like a charm.
And in 2D the movie will be made darker.
Also, yes those Engineer's tunnels and tecc look more metallic simply because they were designed by GUTALIN.
An artist inspired (some say a copycat) by Giger's work but who has a more mechnized feel.
;)
might this be the (raw) derelict warning beacon from alien?
i hope not, though...
That's Ford and a redshirt with a shotgun behind David in the tunnel, isn't it? The very same people who will face an engineer head on at some point, with Ford frozen in terror... :)
That soundclip is insane....
PS: are you people doubting Ridleys capabilities with lighting a set? Do you know the man at all? :D
Quote from: Kol on May 02, 2012, 04:50:44 PM
might this be the (raw) derelict warning beacon from alien?
i hope not, though...
I wonder if that warning will be mentioned somewhere in Prometheus...I know it was cut off from theatrical release of Alien, but most of Alien fans know about that scene.
Ive cleaned the audio and put the pieces is the most correct order that makes sense.
Trying to find a place to post it.
awesome
im sooo keen for this
i should probably stop coming back here or the movies gonna be ruined...
but NO...can't...resist...new...stuff
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 02, 2012, 05:04:34 PM
Ive cleaned the audio and put the pieces is the most correct order that makes sense.
Trying to find a place to post it.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F000%2F162%2F317%2F2vA1a.png%3F1313349760&hash=e182664e4b109e4317e32f3a9feda1210c9e7704)
Here's my attempt..... Please let me know what everyone thinks.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmxWTy4G2g#%5B/url)
Pretty good. Though I think the "I ain't touching that" comes after the "Do you think could help me now?" bit. Mostly because otherwise it sounds like a frat prank this way.
Yeah i couldnt decide if they were egging someone on to touch it before it attacks or just saying "touch it" after it has attached to the arm.
I imagine after this scene is played out in the cinema there will be some stunned silence.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
Pretty good. Though I think the "I ain't touching that" comes after the "Do you think could help me now?" bit. Mostly because otherwise it sounds like a frat prank this way.
Sounds like Rafe Spall saying he 'ain't touching that' and 'it's okay' suggesting Milburn isn't the so-called dumbass who gets the attacked by the cobra thing. It's an American accent screaming, neither sounds like Spall or Harris.
Holy Christ.
It's possible Milburn may be American, with Spall doing an accent. I really couldn't tell for sure from his one clear line in the trailer.
I'm also pretty sure that's Sean Harris/Fifield saying he isn't touching it.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 02, 2012, 05:52:49 PM
Holy Christ.
It's possible Milburn may be American, with Spall doing an accent. I really couldn't tell for sure from his one clear line in the trailer.
I'm also pretty sure that's Sean Harris/Fifield saying he isn't touching it.
Seems like it would be more fitting for his character from what we've seen. Matches up with "Are these things moving?!"
It sounds like his voice as we've heard it before, as well.
It's always the botanists.
Actually I'm ashamed to say I took a look at the 3D map of the pyramid and it appears Shaw, David and Holloway go one way and only Fifield and Milburn go the other. So I'll just stick with the stupid botanist, Ensign Ricky theory as well... damn, this is nearly too much.
Remember...Rothman explicitely said he wouldn't be touching a FRAME of Scott's vision...he made NO REFERENCE to the AUDIO...
Download this fast and stick it on a harddrive...we WON'T be hearing it (in film)...
If they're releasing it less than a month from the international release date, I think we'll be hearing it.
How in the universe are they going to make this a PG13? There's no way. If this audio is any indication...that is some freaky and scary stuff.
Nice work... very unsettling stuff.
There are some big 'splashes' in there - imagine for a moment, one of the attacked crewmembers falling or stumbling into the black goo... (looking at you Milburn) :o
Quote from: Glaive on May 02, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Remember...Rothman explicitely said he wouldn't be touching a FRAME of Scott's vision...he made NO REFERENCE to the AUDIO...
Download this fast and stick it on a harddrive...we WON'T be hearing it (in film)...
I'm hoping you're wrong on this one, Glaive.
Good work, GreatKnower ;)
I've attached my own version which I had been working on before.
I think what happens here, is that Fifield and Milburn are alone in one of the caverns. Milburn falls in the black ooze, something comes up to him, he reaches to it and the worm wraps itself around his arm. He initially thinks it's okay, and he calms himself down. Then the thing gets tighter and tighter so he asks Fifield to help him take it off. Fifield is hesitant, but eventually tries. The worm breaks Milburns arm as Fifield tries to get it off. Milburn then frantically commands to "cut it off!". Then the thing gets into Milburns suit and reaches his face, whereby the thing melts that part of the mask as seen in the trailer. Then the thing launches itself out to infect Fifield.
This is my best guess anyways. You definitely hear acid melting stuff in the clip, and you hear something launch itself at Fifield and his reaction.
That sounds pretty accurate. Good work, dude. :)
thats really creepy too! nice work!
Yeah in my version i just pictured that they try to cut it off....and they cut it but it sprays acid all over the place and retreats into the guys suit while melting everything. There you can hear its thrashing/biting inside the suit until its gets inside the guys body. This whole time its bleeding acid which causes the guy to literally burst with all his guts pouring out of his chest onto the floor while he's still alive. The creature eventually make its it way UP the esophagus and out the guys mouth(you hear him gagging and singe-ing) towards someone else.
I thought I could see at least two other people in the shot where that thing comes out of someone's mouth and leaps forth - one looked like either Shaw or Ford. Assuming for a moment it's Milburn, they would have to eventually show up.
A tiny detail I noticed (don't know how or if it fits into the larger picture) -
When Fifield gets attacked by something inside his helmet, Milburns helmet is still fully intact
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fdxibmq.jpg&hash=a911204084656d9cf69a2f093826a8f8e3de7fb5)
- that is Milburn on the left, right - wearing glasses in front of his eyes? So, Milburns helmet/face melt would happen after Fifield has this 'moment', I think...
You can tell we're really getting down into geek f**kery here with details like that. I mean that in the most positive way. :)
I personally can't see glasses on the person to the left.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 02, 2012, 06:26:45 PM
I thought I could see at least two other people in the shot where that thing comes out of someone's mouth and leaps forth - one looked like either Shaw or Ford. Assuming for a moment it's Milburn, they would have to eventually show up.
Likely Shaw, methinks.
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 06:27:35 PM
A tiny detail I noticed (don't know how or if it fits into the larger picture) -
When Fifield gets attacked by something inside his helmet, Milburns helmet is still fully intact
http://i47.tinypic.com/dxibmq.jpg
- that is Milburn on the left, right - wearing glasses in front of his eyes? So, Milburns helmet/face melt would happen after Fifield has this 'moment', I think...
You're right. It's hard to see, but there are glasses on that persons face.
Maybe the thing let's go of Millburn and goes for Fifield.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 02, 2012, 06:31:38 PM
I personally can't see glasses on the person to the left.
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2F2eqg8ck.jpg&hash=6fa5791d990b4d2dfbfeabef8d5b5dc5ad366bf4)
;)
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 06:27:35 PM
A tiny detail I noticed (don't know how or if it fits into the larger picture) -
When Fifield gets attacked by something inside his helmet, Milburns helmet is still fully intact
http://i47.tinypic.com/dxibmq.jpg
- that is Milburn on the left, right - wearing glasses in front of his eyes? So, Milburns helmet/face melt would happen after Fifield has this 'moment', I think...
Yeah I forgot that that was in fact Fifield, as he is the only one who does NOT weak a yellow nameband over his head.
* Also - in that room with the ooze, as far as I've seen the trailers, they are alone, despite the fact that there are ampules there, and by that I mean to differentiate from other scenes that have ampules in them.
As Eva pointed out though.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39)
This burn victim features glasses mister glasses. :)
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 06:27:35 PM
A tiny detail I noticed (don't know how or if it fits into the larger picture) -
- that is Milburn on the left, right - wearing glasses in front of his eyes? So, Milburns helmet/face melt would happen after Fifield has this 'moment', I think...
By that I believe you mean Fifield's helmet is the one that is burned, and that Fifield's reaction is in response to an alien getting busy with him.
For all we know, it could be a second alien, or just as much it could be the same.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
As Eva pointed out though.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39)
This burn victim features glasses mister glasses. :)
Notice how similar the corroded borders of this helmet are in comparison to those of Kane's helmet..
Here's how it happens, all of which is actually still true to the audio.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fdxibmq.jpg&hash=a911204084656d9cf69a2f093826a8f8e3de7fb5)
1. Fifield tries to cut off the worm, but like squeezing a lemon, he gets acid shot up on his helmet.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39)
2. The worm does eventually sneak into Milburns suit, gets up to his face, and I assume gets acid all over the place.
This is why I was confused before. I had concluded first that the person in the trailer was Fifield, because of the red hair you can see past the helmet. Then later I retracted that as I saw the yellow nameband on the head of a new person getting his whole helmet melted. I held the assumption that only one person gets their helmet melted in such a fashion.
Im assuming Milburn approaches it. It wraps around his arm eventually breaking it. Filfield cuts it and Milburns suit (arm) spraying acid on his helm. It goes inside the cut made by fifield and enters milburns body(still spraying acid).Milburn then bursts as it burrows/gestates in his throat, while Fifield gets away badly burned/mutated. Ford must come across Milburn's corpse later on, when a new creature (hybrid) lunges out of his mouth at her.
Its pretty much what would've happened had Ash cut the facehugger off of Kane. Kane would "die" by melting but the embryo is most likely immune to the acid, it could still hatch. It might be deformed or underdeveloped but I think it could "adapt" to those conditions.
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 02, 2012, 05:36:08 PM
Here's my attempt..... Please let me know what everyone thinks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zRNxiYLZA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zRNxiYLZA#)
OH... OH GOD... OH f**kING GOD...
:'(
That is one of the most... horrific things I've ever heard. ;---;
Quote from: Qwertify on May 02, 2012, 07:00:16 PM
Here's how it happens, all of which is actually still true to the audio.
http://i47.tinypic.com/dxibmq.jpg
1. Fifield tries to cut off the worm, but like squeezing a lemon, he gets acid in on his helmet.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F20fck6t.jpg&hash=53b9b01d211f3323ee2a9e85cfa2b603a2cd1c39)
2. The worm does eventually sneak into Milburns suit, gets up to his face, and I assume gets acid all over the place.
This is why I was confused before. I had concluded first that the person in the trailer was Fifield, because of the red hair you can see past the helmet. Then later I retracted that as I saw the yellow nameband on the head of a new person getting his whole helmet melted. I held the assumption that only one person gets their helmet melted in such a fashion.
The acid is INSIDE fifields helmet, the shot is ages old an dits in the trailer, there is red mohawk inside. So don't say this IS how it happens when you are not right even with this little detail ;]
The acid absolutely looks like it's on the outside of Millburn's helmet. The way it melts indicates that to me anyway.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
The acid absolutely looks like it's on the outside of Millburn's helmet. The way it melts indicates that to me anyway.
It is on the outside you see that thing spray acid on his helmet in that Indian trailer.
"It's in my throat, it's in my throat"
Fu€k that shit!!!!
By the way Eva....in reference to your earlier posts about people doubting Ridley Scott's lighting ability.... So far, people are doubting Scott's every move. From scale to the Alien connection....everything has been picked apart. It's gone to ridiculous lengths.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 02, 2012, 07:17:25 PM
"It's in my throat, it's in my throat"
Fu€k that shit!!!!
I thought he said "It's in my suit".
Why does everyone assume they are the same shot...
They could be individual and from different parts of the movie, we link them because they are similar...
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 02, 2012, 07:17:25 PM
"It's in my throat, it's in my throat"
If it were in his throat, I don't think he'd be able to articulately scream about it :P
I think it's "throat" and I back that up with that scene of whatever the fu€k that thing is exiting someone's throat. And you can talk if something is in your throat, bu not for long.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 02, 2012, 07:21:59 PM
I think it's "throat" and I back that up with that scene of whatever the fu€k that thing is exiting someone's throat. And you can talk if something is in your throat, bu not for long.
Em... Speaking as someone who has been intibated once... No, you can't.
Also, speaking as someone who choked on one of those stupid mint candies, where I was turning blue and pounding my chest... No. If you have something as big as the
xeno-snake in your throat, the most you can do is go AHGHAGH URGHHH AGHHH AREEH HHH BLEHHH!!! with a lot of coughing.
He's definitely saying "It's in my suit! It's in my suit!"
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 02, 2012, 07:19:20 PM
Why does everyone assume they are the same shot...
They could be individual and from different parts of the movie, we link them because they are similar...
Well
Spoiler
We know who the actors are based on what we can make out of the faces in both shots. (IE; one is wearing glasses, the other isn't) We know they are together when they encounter that xeno snake. (based on the layout/map which shows the team splitting up, three go one way, two go another..) and we know it attacks them.
We also know that Millburn's character likely bites it early on, and Ffield turns into a nut case after a return trip to Prometheus.
[/spoiler}
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 02, 2012, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 02, 2012, 07:17:25 PM
"It's in my throat, it's in my throat"
Fu€k that shit!!!!
I thought he said "It's in my suit".
Yeah, he definitely says "SUIT".
Quote from: Sigglas on May 02, 2012, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 02, 2012, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 02, 2012, 07:17:25 PM
"It's in my throat, it's in my throat"
Fu€k that shit!!!!
I thought he said "It's in my suit".
Yeah, he definitely says "SUIT".
I slowed this down on VLC player a long time ago to make sure, and it is without a the slightest doubt "It's in my suit!"
Also, it might be obvious now, but he also says, "Cut it off!" NOT Get it off, or Get it out, or Cut it out. It is "Cut it off!"
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
The acid absolutely looks like it's on the outside of Millburn's helmet. The way it melts indicates that to me anyway.
Right. It is hard to tell either way, as we never actually see the acid going on either helmet. The only thing we do see is that there is smoke coming up from the outside. It could be that it melted through the inside right away. Again - they hardly show enough to really know for sure.
For now I guess it is only safe to say that both Milburn and Fifield get acid on their helmets, and the source is some sort of alien worm/snake.
You don`t have to slow it down. He definitelly says it`s in my suit cut it off, cut it off. We even have shot where snake thing gets in his suit. Seriously guys too much of speculation is bad thing.
Quote from: Master on May 02, 2012, 07:41:34 PM
You don`t have to slow it down. He definitelly says it`s in my suit cut it off, cut it off. We even have shot where snake thing gets in his suit. Seriously guys too much of speculation is bad thing.
Yeah, but when I slowed it down I heard someone say, "It looks like it burst out from the inside" in that same clip. I don't disagree - but it is also nice to have some sort of bearing to what is actually going on too - rather than saying someone saying "he sayz its in mah throat, and like itz be a chestburster, I noews it, but the other guy poors acid iniz face to kill em to stops the chestburster."
That was some mega freaky audio! Alien to me has one of the creepiest audio tracks ever and this one seems to match that. Awesome. Also this movie has to be a 15 (uk) at least!
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 02, 2012, 07:19:20 PM
Why does everyone assume they are the same shot...
They could be individual and from different parts of the movie, we link them because they are similar...
Yeah, I believe I made this mistake. I actually thought they were the same shot, and the one was just an extension of the other. When you look at it though - they are clearly two different shots which means as you said, they could be from anywhere in the move.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 07:24:47 PM
Spoiler
We know who the actors are based on what we can make out of the faces in both shots. (IE; one is wearing glasses, the other isn't) We know they are together when they encounter that xeno snake. (based on the layout/map which shows the team splitting up, three go one way, two go another..) and we know it attacks them.
We also know that Millburn's character likely bites it early on, and Ffield turns into a nut case after a return trip to Prometheus.
That seems to be as much as we can say is absolutely true at this point.
...this is some event horizon shit.
"touch the thing man!"
The acid is inside ;] End of story ;]
To me the audio is along the lines of. At first the cobra creature attatches itself to Milburns arm. Somone tries to remove it where it tightens around his arm. Shaw or Ford say not to touch it. Milburn is in agony and screams to Cut it Off! At first Fifield is like i aint touching that. Then he does try to cut it off where the acid goes all over the place and the thing gets in his suit. Its in my suit. Cue screaming, madness and acid hissing.
My 2 pennys worth.
FIFILED would get his face burned by acid and melting glass inside the Engineer's temple and then he would transform into an elongated monster with his face just bubbly?
Thats a bit too much no?
The background of the melting man and the one from Fifiled and Millburn are differents.
To me these are 2 different scenes.
Quote from: Qwertify on May 02, 2012, 07:49:37 PM
Quote from: Master on May 02, 2012, 07:41:34 PM
You don`t have to slow it down. He definitelly says it`s in my suit cut it off, cut it off. We even have shot where snake thing gets in his suit. Seriously guys too much of speculation is bad thing.
Yeah, but when I slowed it down I heard someone say, "It looks like it burst out from the inside" in that same clip. I don't disagree - but it is also nice to have some sort of bearing to what is actually going on too - rather than saying someone saying "he sayz its in mah throat, and like itz be a chestburster, I noews it, but the other guy poors acid iniz face to kill em to stops the chestburster."
Sorry maybe I wasn`t clear enough. I`m at your side and it pisses me when some people create stuff (it`s in my throat, my ass ::) ) and then desperately try to make it legit.
damn that sound gory as hell. i love it
but i can't stop thinking how the creature in this recording - the snake thing presumably - sounds like an angry monkey :-X
and why is he saying 'TOUCH IT MAN'? lol it sounds so strange
I made a new vid with corresponding pics if anyone wants to see it. Im not trying to spam my channel...as you can see these are the only 2 vids i have ever posted on YT. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmxWTy4G2g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmxWTy4G2g#)
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 02, 2012, 09:40:18 PM
I made a new vid with corresponding pics if anyone wants to see it. Im not trying to spam my channel...as you can see these are the only 2 vids i have ever posted on YT. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmxWTy4G2g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmxWTy4G2g#)
Is there a reason I cannot see any of your stuff?
I just get a post with about 20 lines of nothing after your main mssg.
EDIT:
Ok I got the link in my quote. That looks pretty good. I like that the ooze part is at the end, as it makes sense that one of them falls into the ooze out of panic at the end. Also - in the new trailer they show some of the personnel coming across a dead member of the ship - or at least an empty suit.
Quote from: Qwertify on May 02, 2012, 06:43:17 PM
* Also - in that room with the ooze, as far as I've seen the trailers, they are alone, despite the fact that there are ampules there, and by that I mean to differentiate from other scenes that have ampules in them.
yeah, in this room there's this black goo on the ground and all over the ampules
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 02, 2012, 09:40:18 PM
I made a new vid with corresponding pics if anyone wants to see it. Im not trying to spam my channel...as you can see these are the only 2 vids i have ever posted on YT. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmxWTy4G2g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFmxWTy4G2g#)
nice work. not sure if the guy with the melting helmet really is part of this scene, though.
anyway this is going to be some intense stuff!
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on May 02, 2012, 08:07:42 PM
...this is some event horizon shit.
"touch the thing man!"
absolutely what was i thought first ;D
omg it sounds terrifying! lol. i cannot wait. :)
I actually think the audio was creepier with all the backward stuff going on too. Very disturbing. I also think that without images it sounds worse. Though I imagine it will still be pretty horrific in cinema. I cannot wait!
That sounds like a f**king horrendous death, really gave me the goosebumps that :-[
Worst part is his scream when it breaks his arm... Jesus Christ. :'(
Now this is giving me some anticipation buzz. ;D
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 02, 2012, 10:43:11 PM
Worst part is his scream when it breaks his arm... Jesus Christ. :'(
Yeah .. it is some good stuff. Riddles knows how to pick his guys.
Reminded me a lot of John Hurts Chestburst death. Between him and Scott they really knew how to make a person sound as if they are really suffering bad. Scott has done it again it seems.
Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 02, 2012, 10:52:14 PM
Reminded me a lot of John Hurts Chestburst death. Between him and Scott they really knew how to make a person sound as if they are really suffering bad. Scott has done it again it seems.
Funny, I thought more of Lambert's death, which is heard entirely off camera as a series of grunts and exhalations and a final echoey scream - soooo atmospheric, and much more scary than actually seeing it.
I can imagine there will be a number of iconic scenes in this film. The crazy thing is that apparently they have already revealed a good number from the virals and trailers. I wonder what amazing scenes they are keeping from us.
As far as I know - Riddles says the secret is in the story - and that will likely only be revealed along with the last eight minutes wherein we will be able to trace whatever bit of DNA this film has in common with his Alien.
What a bloody hypochondriac. Sheesh, it's just little snake for crying out loud. ;)
Kidding, sounds nasty - can't wait to see how this plays out on screen.
Who said it sounds like angry monkey :DDDDDDDDDDD I almost laughed my ass off here imagining the two guys being scratched by chimp down in the derelict lolz
I just posted a pdf with a frame by frame view from the latest trailer. You can see the snake thing "bursting" from one victim into another... D A M N.
Quote from: Ruzena on May 03, 2012, 12:30:21 AM
Who said it sounds like angry monkey :DDDDDDDDDDD I almost laughed my ass off here imagining the two guys being scratched by chimp down in the derelict lolz
So far we have snakes and cuttlefish... a monkey, considering human are great apes isn't that unplausible.
Sounds like every single caracters death sequence compiled into one sound file....to me at least....
Without the visuals the imagination runs wild.
Very gruesome. It recalls Lambert's fate off camera, but we'll definitely be seeing some visuals here. And since most of it occurs IN his suit there will be amble room for the ratings board to do their thing.
Can't say I believe the acid helmet victim is the same guy who gets his arm broke. Both arms come up and grab the mask just fine. (?)
I suspect it may be the following:
Milburn is mouth burster guy/ possible acid melt man.
Fifield is mutated man, possibly infected by the same Milburn worm or something else.
Ford is acid melt woman however ive seen a quick glimpse of her and a redshirt merc looking up at an engineer (possibly) with their helmets off so that may not be it.
Acid melt/ mouth burst could be someone else.
Quote from: Glaive on May 02, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Remember...Rothman explicitely said he wouldn't be touching a FRAME of Scott's vision...he made NO REFERENCE to the AUDIO...
Download this fast and stick it on a harddrive...we WON'T be hearing it (in film)...
lol, cute. very doubtful they'll cut the audio out of a scene though, haha. maybe the over done squishy noises, since those seem like they were laid on a little too thick depending on what they are.
The one thing I gather the most from the audio is that the snake thing sure sounds like an alien. Even to the point that it has to be a facehugger. It squeezes like one and if you try to remove it it breaks the host. Least to mention that acid effects.
"Oh yeah... Oh yeah... It's getting tighter..."
That part sounded bizarrely pleasurable!
Just remember, these parts might not even be in any scenes. They could have simply got some of the actors to say random stuff into a microphone and then added weird organic sounds to the recording. :)
Damn I only just now listened to the reverse audio of the original.
...Damn...consider pants shitted.
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 03, 2012, 01:41:08 AM
Quote from: Ruzena on May 03, 2012, 12:30:21 AM
Who said it sounds like angry monkey :DDDDDDDDDDD I almost laughed my ass off here imagining the two guys being scratched by chimp down in the derelict lolz
So far we have snakes and cuttlefish... a monkey, considering human are great apes isn't that unplausible.
Apes are not monkeys.
Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 03, 2012, 01:41:08 AM
Quote from: Ruzena on May 03, 2012, 12:30:21 AM
Who said it sounds like angry monkey :DDDDDDDDDDD I almost laughed my ass off here imagining the two guys being scratched by chimp down in the derelict lolz
So far we have snakes and cuttlefish... a monkey, considering human are great apes isn't that unplausible.
Apes are not monkeys.
That is what prometheus is about, we discover what we really are. Are we monkeys or apes!!! Thanks for lesson tho!
who the f**k wanna tuch a thing like that????
Quote from: szkoki on May 03, 2012, 10:38:58 AM
who the f**k wanna tuch a thing like that????
Curious scientists with a high dose of naivety. ;D
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 03, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
"Oh yeah... Oh yeah... It's getting tighter..."
That part sounded bizarrely pleasurable!
Sounds more like shock to me. He doesn't say "oh yeah" he's saying "Oh my God" in much the same way a stab victim looks down and goes "Oh my God, I've been stabbed."
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 03, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
Just remember, these parts might not even be in any scenes. They could have simply got some of the actors to say random stuff into a microphone and then added weird organic sounds to the recording. :)
This is definitely in the movie. Without a doubt.
Quote from: Ruzena on May 03, 2012, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 03, 2012, 01:41:08 AM
Quote from: Ruzena on May 03, 2012, 12:30:21 AM
Who said it sounds like angry monkey :DDDDDDDDDDD I almost laughed my ass off here imagining the two guys being scratched by chimp down in the derelict lolz
So far we have snakes and cuttlefish... a monkey, considering human are great apes isn't that unplausible.
Apes are not monkeys.
That is what prometheus is about, we discover what we really are. Are we monkeys or apes!!! Thanks for lesson tho!
I didn't mean to be a spaz about it. (Actually I got the same lesson from my biologist friend about 20x before it sank it.)
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 03, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
Just remember, these parts might not even be in any scenes. They could have simply got some of the actors to say random stuff into a microphone and then added weird organic sounds to the recording. :)
This is definitely in the movie. Without a doubt.
Nasty. From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn. The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.
What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos. From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.
Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.
One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards? Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.
While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.
But those sounds! Very nasty sequence. Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.
By the sounds of it there are several events all happening rapidly one after the other. Holloway gets infected, somone dies by getting acid in the face which melts his helmet. The Milburn/Fifield incident. Things go south very fast it seems.
Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
Nasty. From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn. The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.
What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos. From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.
Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.
One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards? Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.
While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.
But those sounds! Very nasty sequence. Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.
Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.
Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.
Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
Nasty. From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn. The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.
What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos. From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.
Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.
One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards? Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.
While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.
But those sounds! Very nasty sequence. Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.
Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.
Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.
Yeah I'm now wondering something similar. I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn. I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point. I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...
Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed. I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling. After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.
this audiofile gives me goosebumps & i almost cry, when hearing it. very authentic. now i remember why lambert's death was so effective.
Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
Nasty. From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn. The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.
What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos. From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.
Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.
One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards? Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.
While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.
But those sounds! Very nasty sequence. Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.
Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.
Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.
Yeah I'm now wondering something similar. I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn. I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point. I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...
Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed. I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling. After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.
Spot on. I think there may be three trips out. There are certainly two returns to the Prometheus - one in which there is a storm chasing them, and another where there is evidently no storm in the background and they are greeted by Vickers with a flame-thrower. In both of those trips Shaw returns to the Prometheus, and yet we see a time when she is trying to escape the launch of the juggernaut, so she must have gone out a third time.
My opinion is that trip 1 is pretty innocuous. They explore parts of the temple, bring back the Jockey head and an urn. You then see them study these items aboard the ship. Holloway may have become infected without realising it, but sees a weird thing in his eye after this first outing. This is the trip where a storm chases them on the way back.
Trip 2 is where things get messy - they go back after the storm and encounter some nasties, Milburn gets eaten from the inside out and Fifield is horribly acid burned. The team returns in a shambles to the Prometheus but Vickers tries to keep them out.
In the possible 3rd trip they find and enter the juggernaut. David finds the map room and the jockey holograms, and they begin to learn what's happened. But this maybe triggers the thing to launch.
And this is before the 3rd act I reckon!!
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
As Eva pointed out though.
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This burn victim features glasses mister glasses. :)
i'm actually going to take a bold opposition here and say it might actually be fifield, for two reasons, and Not milburn.
in the latter scenes of them returning to the ship, we see one helmet that is badly damaged, and that helmet from what we can tell consistently belongs to fifield, but clearly they remove the acid burned part later.
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reason 2: everyone says they are glasses but are they?? LOOOK very very closely. notice two things: theres no sign of the metalic hat with the yellow name band across the head, it looks more like fifields bald tattoo'd head.
as far the glasses: Notice, at the bottom of the victims nose is another very dark equally strong 'line' which sort of strobe the bottom of the nose. i think the other line which is going accross the bridge of the nose, is being mistaken for glasses. look very carefully at the rest of the bur nmakes on the helmet, it matches theses lines and i think that dark line just happens to look similar to the bottom edges of glasses but one other thing worth noting, is that if it was caused by glasses, the impression would be more 'complete' but its not. its just the bottom area of the 'imaginary glasses' that we can make an impression of.
i also just don't think the alien creature would be fickle about a victim like this, i think it picks fifields and thats it (when it comes to going inside the suit i mean)
i think the 'cut it off' line sounds a bit more fifield to me too.
anyway, heres a photoshopped image ot make my case
perhaps it never goes into fifields suit and all his burns are just from acid.
i just realised though that im forgetting the scene with the mouth 'burster' maybe it is milburn.
Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 01:31:06 PM
Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: Qwertify on May 03, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
Quote from: EGM1966 on May 03, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
Nasty. From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn. The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.
What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos. From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.
Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.
One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards? Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.
While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.
But those sounds! Very nasty sequence. Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.
Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.
Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.
Yeah I'm now wondering something similar. I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn. I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point. I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...
Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed. I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling. After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.
Spot on. I think there may be three trips out. There are certainly two returns to the Prometheus - one in which there is a storm chasing them, and another where there is evidently no storm in the background and they are greeted by Vickers with a flame-thrower. In both of those trips Shaw returns to the Prometheus, and yet we see a time when she is trying to escape the launch of the juggernaut, so she must have gone out a third time.
My opinion is that trip 1 is pretty innocuous. They explore parts of the temple, bring back the Jockey head and an urn. You then see them study these items aboard the ship. Holloway may have become infected without realising it, but sees a weird thing in his eye after this first outing. This is the trip where a storm chases them on the way back.
Trip 2 is where things get messy - they go back after the storm and encounter some nasties, Milburn gets eaten from the inside out and Fifield is horribly acid burned. The team returns in a shambles to the Prometheus but Vickers tries to keep them out.
In the possible 3rd trip they find and enter the juggernaut. David finds the map room and the jockey holograms, and they begin to learn what's happened. But this maybe triggers the thing to launch.
And this is before the 3rd act I reckon!!
Sounds reasonable, although I'm wondering if your description of the third trip wouldn't take place during the second? I get the feelling from the shots of the hologram that you'll have David, Shaw, etc. explore the control room initially but be drawn away when Milburn and Fifield get into trouble. The shot of him entering the control room with the others seems too relaxed to be that late in the film and after some deaths.
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Nasty. From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn. The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.
What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos. From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.
Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.
One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards? Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.
While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.
But those sounds! Very nasty sequence. Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.
Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.
Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.
Yeah I'm now wondering something similar. I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn. I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point. I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...
Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed. I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling. After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.
Spot on. I think there may be three trips out. There are certainly two returns to the Prometheus - one in which there is a storm chasing them, and another where there is evidently no storm in the background and they are greeted by Vickers with a flame-thrower. In both of those trips Shaw returns to the Prometheus, and yet we see a time when she is trying to escape the launch of the juggernaut, so she must have gone out a third time.
My opinion is that trip 1 is pretty innocuous. They explore parts of the temple, bring back the Jockey head and an urn. You then see them study these items aboard the ship. Holloway may have become infected without realising it, but sees a weird thing in his eye after this first outing. This is the trip where a storm chases them on the way back.
Trip 2 is where things get messy - they go back after the storm and encounter some nasties, Milburn gets eaten from the inside out and Fifield is horribly acid burned. The team returns in a shambles to the Prometheus but Vickers tries to keep them out.
In the possible 3rd trip they find and enter the juggernaut. David finds the map room and the jockey holograms, and they begin to learn what's happened. But this maybe triggers the thing to launch.
And this is before the 3rd act I reckon!!
Sounds reasonable, although I'm wondering if your description of the third trip wouldn't take place during the second? I get the feelling from the shots of the hologram that you'll have David, Shaw, etc. explore the control room initially but be drawn away when Milburn and Fifield get into trouble. The shot of him entering the control room with the others seems too relaxed to be that late in the film and after some deaths.
Yes, good point.
I do think that Shaw, who returns to the Prometheus from two trips out then has to go back so that she's in position over the juggernaut when it launches.
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Nasty. From what's been released I'm going with Milburn get's his arm broken, then Fifield get's his suit sprayed with some acid (curious how this mutates him though - unless he gets something else on him) and while he's occupied with that the worm thing really goes to town on poor Milburn. The others come running of course and find dead Milburn (with a little surprise in his mouth) plus a wounded Fifield.
What makes it worse is the slow but steady progress of chaos. From the characters bantering a bit about the thing, then growing worry that it won't let go to the sounds of bones breaking.
Also, unless very carefully cut to reveal little, there is no way that's anything but an R is US going by the duration and intensity of the scene.
One thing though, how does Holloway get infected and how is it low key enough for Shaw to sleep with him afterwards? Some stuff shows him with bubbling skin and looking pretty altered right away as they help him hobble back to the ship while other shots imply a very slow process that's not apparent - the shot of his eye with the little worm thing - which implies a period of time when he might know he's not quite right but no one else knows.
While the trailers, etc. seem to reveal a bit there's clearly a lot unknown about the sequence of events once they land and explore.
But those sounds! Very nasty sequence. Probably only intended as an initial taster too - showing how dangerous even a smaller creature in this environment is.
Most likely Shaw sleeps with an infected Holloway, and that is how she is infected herself. We do not know that for sure however.
Also - Holloway could have potentially infected himself - in pursuit of becoming a God, or an Engineer. Marshall-Green describes his character as someone who leaps before he looks, and takes things to the extreme. In his dialogue with David, he asks him what he would be willing to do to get what he came looking for (described by the writers as someone who wants to stand next to his creators). He replies, "Anything and everything." Taking this all into consideration - he could infect himself with David's help.
Other than that - yeah Milburn and Fifield sure get messed up in this encounter. I am curious to know at exactly which point in the movie this happens. It appears that the go to the ship at least two or three time. If they realize how hostile the aliens are - what makes them stick around? My best guess, if this were true, would be that they bring back a bunch of things from the ship, and never plan to return, save for analytical purposes. The figure if they don't go back - they are safe in a sense, from whatever attack Fifield and Milburn.
Yeah I'm now wondering something similar. I'm thinking there is a trip where nothing happens and they bring back the Jocky Head and an Urn. I say this as there seem to be scenes implying most scientists around at that point. I think Holloway get's infected around here - that little blob David balances on his fingertip and their scene together...
Then they go back and delve deeper into the ruins and Milburn and Fifield discovery the room with the broken urns and stuff running loose and get trashed. I'm thinking that during that visit Holloway's infection erupts or is somehow accelerated hence the shots of him in his suit with his skin bubbling. After that scene he's brought back and we know then he looks changed and Vickers doesn't want him on the ship.
Spot on. I think there may be three trips out. There are certainly two returns to the Prometheus - one in which there is a storm chasing them, and another where there is evidently no storm in the background and they are greeted by Vickers with a flame-thrower. In both of those trips Shaw returns to the Prometheus, and yet we see a time when she is trying to escape the launch of the juggernaut, so she must have gone out a third time.
My opinion is that trip 1 is pretty innocuous. They explore parts of the temple, bring back the Jockey head and an urn. You then see them study these items aboard the ship. Holloway may have become infected without realising it, but sees a weird thing in his eye after this first outing. This is the trip where a storm chases them on the way back.
Trip 2 is where things get messy - they go back after the storm and encounter some nasties, Milburn gets eaten from the inside out and Fifield is horribly acid burned. The team returns in a shambles to the Prometheus but Vickers tries to keep them out.
In the possible 3rd trip they find and enter the juggernaut. David finds the map room and the jockey holograms, and they begin to learn what's happened. But this maybe triggers the thing to launch.
And this is before the 3rd act I reckon!!
Sounds reasonable, although I'm wondering if your description of the third trip wouldn't take place during the second? I get the feelling from the shots of the hologram that you'll have David, Shaw, etc. explore the control room initially but be drawn away when Milburn and Fifield get into trouble. The shot of him entering the control room with the others seems too relaxed to be that late in the film and after some deaths.
Yes, good point.
I do think that Shaw, who returns to the Prometheus from two trips out then has to go back so that she's in position over the juggernaut when it launches.
I am assuming that she goes out there to stop the engineers, because she is on to what they are up to (kill earthlings one way or another). Prometheus goes up to go home, so Shaw takes the lifeboat down to the surface. Then as she tries to get to the alien structure, the alien bay doors open up below and she has to run around them. The ship rises and a debate arises as to what to do. Vickers says:"Take us home!"
Then Shaw, outside the ship radios in "If you don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to!"
Captain Janek decides to do the right thing and kamikaze the ship into the Juggernaut. Vickers frantically runs to the escape pods. Both her and Shaw are on the surface when the Juggernaut falls to the ground. They run for their lives.
What happens next?
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lol - wish I could figure out how to do selective quotes... oh well.
There are two other events we need to account for - Shaw's "surgery" and her encounter with one of the alien beings (I'm not going anywhere near the mutated crewmember idea).
I see the surgery occurring after the second trip. Later she takes RTO1 (scene in trailers where she agressively reverses) and heads out again. But the ground opens up to allow the juggernaut to take off and she gets out. Prometheus takes off, Vickers escapes and the ships collide.
Now, the encounter with the alien being either occurs before the Prometheus takes off (why has this creature come aboard?) or it occurs in the wrecked lifeboat after the juggernaut crash - he comes after the folks who pranged his shiny spaceship.
I don't know either way. I think we need to have a climactic third act on the planet involving Shaw and Vickers and a possible survivor of the juggernaut crash, none of which has been seen in the trailers.
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lol - wish I could figure out how to do selective quotes... oh well.
You manually edit the text as you're responding. You can also click "insert quote" when you're posting a reply. :)
Quote from: ucdom on May 03, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
I don't know either way. I think we need to have a climactic third act on the planet involving Shaw and Vickers and a possible survivor of the juggernaut crash, none of which has been seen in the trailers.
We do know that the last bunch of minutes of the film were not given to the editors of the trailers. So the climax is completely unspoiled.
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We do know that the last bunch of minutes of the film were not given to the editors of the trailers. So the climax is completely unspoiled.
Nice.
What I would give to see those last few minutes. :'( It hurst sometimes not knowing.
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We do know that the last bunch of minutes of the film were not given to the editors of the trailers. So the climax is completely unspoiled.
Nice.
What I would give to see those last few minutes. :'( It hurst sometimes not knowing.
you love it to be spoiled? ???
after hearing this audiopost i guess, this movie belongs maybe to the horror-genre.
Yes, good point.
I do think that Shaw, who returns to the Prometheus from two trips out then has to go back so that she's in position over the juggernaut when it launches.
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I am assuming that she goes out there to stop the engineers, because she is on to what they are up to (kill earthlings one way or another). Prometheus goes up to go home, so Shaw takes the lifeboat down to the surface. Then as she tries to get to the alien structure, the alien bay doors open up below and she has to run around them. The ship rises and a debate arises as to what to do. Vickers says:"Take us home!"
Then Shaw, outside the ship radios in "If you don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to!"
Captain Janek decides to do the right thing and kamikaze the ship into the Juggernaut. Vickers frantically runs to the escape pods. Both her and Shaw are on the surface when the Juggernaut falls to the ground. They run for their lives.
What happens next?
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That sounds like a good flow. Seems to me there are two escapes from the Prometheus - the shuttle craft seen in trailers plus the smaller pod Vickers ejects in - looks like close to last minute possible before collision. Or am I mixing the two up?
Also - cut out the trail - it was getting long! :)
Regarding the Fifield/Milburn & Cobra scene....
The only piece of dialogue we've heard from Milburn "errr come in Prometheus" is spoken in Rafe Spall's natural British accent in Featurette 2. We've already heard Sean Harris, whose is the American accent in the audio puzzle? It may just be a mess up from Spall but the character getting the squeeze definitely doesn't like Spall's usual voice.
What bothers me about these creatures is, and I'm hoping this is not what is happening, but, the fact that the makers of this film will have you believe that these snake aliens are running around or hibernating in corpses or whatever for who the hell knows how long? I mean the thing has to eat, right? It is eating the crew members, right?
But, I guess if they were engineered to not to need to consume, food, so to speak. Then that could maybe work, with them only needing to absorb the nutrients out of the air like bacteria or VIRUS, or some stuff like that. Because a virus can sustain its self for long periods of time without a host, correct?
Damn, I just answered my own question.. Lol.
Who says they're a virus? I don't think we know what they are yet aside from as yet to be determined life forms.
Scott has often referred to them as being 'like' a virus, and a recent comment has him referring to the xenos as a 'viral time-bomb'. For whatever that's worth, probably nothing.
If all these creatures have acid for blood then that maybe the answer to the question. They could operate essentially like large batteries...
I think Holloway gets infected when
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he takes his helmet off in the first visit to the temple, pretty sure it is said he lets dripping water fall on his face. Microscopic viral life-forms could be in said water, which may be related to the black soup of the urns at a more distilled level. If that water gets in his eyes, then he gets eye-worms! ;D
Also bearing in mind for the flow of the film, Shaw has a confrontation with the Engineer and the Big Tendril thing whilst seemingly on the Prometheus, or a possible second ship (Magellan?). If she was fighting the Engineer on the Prometheus, she had to leave and get dirtside somehow to be there when Janek rams the Juggernaut and strands Shaw and Vickers.
Viruses are not alive technicaly speaking...
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If all these creatures have acid for blood then that maybe the answer to the question. They could operate essentially like large batteries...
This is essentialy my theory on Alien being alive for very long time.
Quote from: BioMechanical on May 04, 2012, 01:37:34 AM
Because a virus can sustain its self for long periods of time without a host, correct?
A virus doesn't sustain itself at all. It has no metabolism whatsoever. It is just a put of genetic info floating around in a capsule. In colder areas, with not light, where there is very little chemical interaction, viruses can last a very long time.
They are like tiny pieces of machinery that, via their physical nature, are able to gain entry into cells and their genetic material without any energy expenditure. Once there, they can insert themselves into that cell's genetic machinery whereby the cell will be granted new functions; primarily those are to produce additional copies of that virus, (and also, if you are into biological jargon, to reduce class I MHC surface receptors on the cell, receptors that let other cells of the immune system know that it is virally infected, and signal an antiviral state and subsequently apoptosis of that cell, but this has no possible link to Prometheus anways).
Because that snake/worm in Prometheus does move - it has a metabolism, and thus cannot be classified as a virus. Nevertheless, it can have other properties like a virus, in that it uses other living things' machinery to propagate its own offspring, at one cycle or another. In some rare cases, viruses have been known to mind control ants to walk around the tops of leaves, increasing their chances to be eaten by cattle. This is interesting because the virus need cells in the cattle's intestines to multiply. However, they can only last there for so long before being cast out in the cattle's feces. It is from the feces that the ants become infected in the first place. If you want, you can think about it in a way that the snake/worm can be a kind of parasite (all viruses are intracellular parasites anyways) that can lie perfectly dormant without a metabolism until primed by signs of life. This way they can inhabit a ship or whatever for essentially forever - until life comes by.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
As Eva pointed out though.
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This burn victim features glasses mister glasses. :)
You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.
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Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
As Eva pointed out though.
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This burn victim features glasses mister glasses. :)
You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.
Do you know who that is or where they say it, or a photo? I am just curious because I haven't seen anything like that.
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Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 04, 2012, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
As Eva pointed out though.
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This burn victim features glasses mister glasses. :)
You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.
Do you know who that is or where they say it, or a photo? I am just curious because I haven't seen anything like that.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43178.msg1347566#msg1347566 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43178.msg1347566#msg1347566)
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Quote from: Qwertify on May 04, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 04, 2012, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
As Eva pointed out though.
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This burn victim features glasses mister glasses. :)
You also notice his nose and his mouth has pretty much melted away. This thing gets cut gets into his helmet spraying acid and the poor guy gets his face burnt right off.
Someone said they saw a skull reflected in the helmet of another crewmember as a casulty is being handled near the Prometheus ramp. I think its Milburn alright he's not had a good death.
Do you know who that is or where they say it, or a photo? I am just curious because I haven't seen anything like that.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43178.msg1347566#msg1347566 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43178.msg1347566#msg1347566)
Oh - thanks a lot! That makes a lot of sense actually if that is a skull. I was wondering anyways what the scene might be all about, and now a good possible explanation. Again, thanks!
So others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?
Because the acid melted off the mans face even the skull would have been affected.
Anyone think that maybe Holloway or someone else came to meet up with them and thats when he is infected? Like how i think it goes down-
Milburn is messing with Fifield tryin to coax him to come closer or something to check out the snake-thing, and Holloway comes by to check on them and gets grabbed. Milburn tries to keep Holloway calm, who's trying to get the others to help him get it off, with Fifield being adamant in not touching it. Finally he gets the courage to do it, and all hell breaks loose (literally).
Short and sweet- snake gets cut, acid hits Milburn full on (melting his face) while Fifield gets grazed or something(infecting him slowly), snake crawls into Holloway and the shock of it all they forget that its in him.
Idk thats just my opinion, i realize it has some loopholes but eh
Who is it that gets acid burn, is it the mowhawk guy?
Quote from: bleau on May 05, 2012, 03:49:09 AM
Who is it that gets acid burn, is it the mowhawk guy?
I am sure that it is both Milburn and Fifield (mohawk guy) in the same scene. Others have varying opinions - like that the two helmet melting scenes are from two different parts of the movie.
The person who gets severely burned is Milburn most likely, the guy with glasses. We say that because you can see he has a yellow name band above his head (something that Fifield doesn't have) and the person has glasses, something only Milburn wears.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PMSo others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?
:P
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 05, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PMSo others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?
:P
If you look closely at the pixels, you can see a second mouth inside that mouth.
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Do you see it - inside the green circle?
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Quote from: Qwertify on May 05, 2012, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 05, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PMSo others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?
:P
If you look closely at the pixels, you can see a second mouth inside that mouth.
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Do you see it - inside the green circle?
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PROOF.
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Seriously, I have no idea where this thread is going.
I think it plays out like this -
Fifield, Milburn and Holloway rouse the Snakehugger from the black oily depths.
Milburn being the curious botanist, gets closer to it. Fifield is paranoid and scared to go near it. Holloway is a douche jock and reaches out to touch it. Snakehugger grabs onto his wrist and starts to slowly coil itself around his lower arm. Holloway is, at first, fascinated. He then tries to shake it loose. It won't budge. He then grabs at it. It gets tighter and tighter. He shouts for Fifield to try and prize it loose. He won't go anywhere near it. Milburn tries to help, but the creature gets tighter and tighter to the point where Holloway's arm breaks. Now its serious. Fifield has no choice but to help. He removes a knife from his belt and cuts the creature, acid blood spurts from the wound onto his helmet. Fifield stumbles back. Milburn panics. The creature, realising it is under attack, quickly reveals its head and, like a cobra, spits a huge glob of acid directly onto Milburn's helmet, which causes the glass to dissolve into his face. The Snakehugger then writhes its way into Holloway's suit and burrows itself into his skin...
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Shaw got the "baby". Probably from Millburn.
Edit: That is not Shaw, but Ford.
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Mutated Fifield. I think that guy, who is stand face to face with one of the Prometheus crew member, whos face is reflect on his helmet is Fifield, and after he back, he is start to slaughtering his mate.
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Shaw got the "baby". Probably from Millburn.
Is that Shaw? Looks more like Ford to me. Note the Bob style haircut.
I'm fairly certain that Shaw is impregnated with an alien creature after having sex with Holloway.
I've got a feeling that after Holloway is infected, his health, somehow miraculously regenerates. His broken arm heals etc. This will more than likely will be the key which causes Vickers to revive Weyland from cryo.
What they are yet unaware of, is what is lurking deep inside Holloway's newly mutated DNA...
Yeah, too dark the pic, i think that is Shaw, but you are right, that is Ford. I don't watch the haircut style, just only that it is a woman.
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 05, 2012, 03:39:12 PM
I'm fairly certain that Shaw is impregnated with an alien creature after having sex with Holloway.
Yeah, i think to now.
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Yeah, too dark the pic, i think that is Shaw, but you are right, that is Ford. I don't watch the haircut style, just only that it is a woman.
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 05, 2012, 03:39:12 PM
I'm fairly certain that Shaw is impregnated with an alien creature after having sex with Holloway.
Yeah, i think to now.
isn't she only vomiting?
I've just listened to the audio puzzle again, and... it just doesn't do much for me.
It sounds like a college fraternity hazing caught on tape. :-\
It sounded horrifying that's for sure. It's like the video log of the Event Horizon crew. :laugh:
"Touch it man, touch it!"
"I don't wanna touch it!"
"AU!&!^£"(*"
*moaning, gasping"
"Oh man, oh man, oh man--"
ಠ_ಠ
Pages 4 and 5 have redone versions - in case you are listening to the versions on page one, which are I guess you can say, unsolved.
That scream at 0:32 is one of the most horrifying things I've heard in a long time... :-X
Totally making my friends who haven't been following this at all go with me. ;D
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Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PMSo others have to see the very jagged Xeno-like teeth where the mouth is right?
:P
If you look closely at the pixels, you can see a second mouth inside that mouth.
Spoiler
Do you see it - inside the green circle?
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Thats whats left of his skull after he had it burnt off!
That audio is quite an uncomfortable thing to listen too. I must admit this film is starting to scare me already.
Kane lost consciousness because of the alien atmosphere getting to him once his suit was compromised, and he was overcome quickly, but if he'd had Dallas and Lambert with him in a breathable atmosphere his fate would have sounded a lot like that.
The panic and the near crying with pain and horror is what makes it so unnerving, especially raw and without music.
It sounds like the creature gets into the guys helmet. You can hear the dull thudding of something rattling around . I think the cobrahugger gets into his helmet and thrashes around. I get an awful feeling we see this from Milburns POV. This beast I think forces its way into his mouth while its peeing acid all over the place afterFifeld cuts the thing and acid shoots out. Poor Milburn gets his face and possibly some of his skull burnt off and much of his suit. Fifield gets only a glancing shot of acid.
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Shaw got the "baby". Probably from Millburn.
Edit: That is not Shaw, but Ford.
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Mutated Fifield. I think that guy, who is stand face to face with one of the Prometheus crew member, whos face is reflect on his helmet is Fifield, and after he back, he is start to slaughtering his mate.
so it's true... they mutate after coming in contact with this biomechanic lifeform pattern... I'm not really liking this idea...
I love how some people say 'this movie is using fresh takes and ideas' when a lot of things shown so far suggest (and may or may not confirmed in the actual product) the use of some of the oldest sci-fi tropes. This is another one -- humans turning into monsters? Sounds anywhere near familiar?
Maybe that is the point -- Scott's take on some old archetypes (something Roland Emmerich knows about).
Well there is a zombie craze going around. Nothing like one if your mates ripping you apart and chomping on you, in this case space zombies.. Give the people what the want. Lol.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 06, 2012, 06:01:59 PM
I love how some people say 'this movie is using fresh takes and ideas' when a lot of things shown so far suggest (and may or may not confirmed in the actual product) the use of some of the oldest sci-fi tropes. This is another one -- humans turning into monsters? Sounds anywhere near familiar?
Maybe that is the point -- Scott's take on some old archetypes (something Roland Emmerich knows about).
I'm a huge fan of Scott's work... and I think Prometheus will be a real great sci-fi flick...
But many things I've seen so far don't seem that groundbreaking and new as people say... especially when they're saying how original this take on von Däniken's theories are... or the cliché of the hardened "suit - person"...
Doon't get me wrong, I still have very high hope for this movie and since it's Ridley, I'm sure we'll get an amazing movie... but to see things like "...30 years in the making" and stuff like that just makes it seem so blown out of proportion...
Quote from: BioMechanical on May 06, 2012, 06:10:09 PM
Well there is a zombie craze going around. Nothing like one if your mates ripping you apart and chomping on you, in this case space zombies.. Give the people what the want. Lol.
that's another thing worrying me... so many current trends can be spotted in the movie... it's not bad per se, but since it's Ridley's first sci-fi movie in a long time, I want to see some fresh stuff... something that could rejuvenate sci-fi...fine: show us zombies, show us terraforming gods, show us facehugging creatures, show us acid, show us aliens coming out of humans... but please show me something that is as memorable as the chestburster was in 1979 as well...
Someone said that - in a potential review somewhere that - when the humans enter the temple - they are the ones that are treated as very alien and strange, and potentially dangerous.
Quote from: Qwertify on May 06, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Someone said that - in a potential review somewhere that - when the humans enter the temple - they are the ones that are treated as very alien and strange, and potentially dangerous.
I highly doubt that. I think they think of us as very infearier and weak. But I'm sure they view us as a slight threat. Lol.
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Quote from: Qwertify on May 06, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Someone said that - in a potential review somewhere that - when the humans enter the temple - they are the ones that are treated as very alien and strange, and potentially dangerous.
I highly doubt that. I think they think of us as very infearier and weak. But I'm sure they view us as a slight threat. Lol.
There is no doubt that they think of us as inferior - but what the person route kind of caught my attention, because if they don't know who we are or what we are, and if would could be a potential threat left alone, then what are we to make of the starmaps on Earth? If it wasn't them, or no one of them that left behind the influence, then the visit is highly unexpected.
Going back to the Milburn/ Cobra hugger audio clip. I noticed something watching the new trailer. The quick clip of the cobrahugger vanishing into Milburn's suit. You can see acid smoke coming up from his arm. I think that confirms it Milburn is acid-face melt man. It gets into his helmet peeing acid and thats Milburns chips bought for him...