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Apple has released an Internet Exclusive teaser trailer! Check it out in Quicktime, in 3 different sizes! Here’s a couple of the screens from the new Alien vs Predator trailer and click read more to see the total 34 screenshots from start to finish. Also, here’s the links to download it straight to your computer.

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Download: Small (2.64MB), Medium (4.65MB), Large (11.5MB)Thanks to fellow newsposter Alex Dunham for these screens. View the next page for the full 34 screens.

Update: Apple.com have now removed the links to the trailer. Probably because the demand was too high. Watch this space for updates…

Update 2: Apple.com have now reposted the trailer on their site. The links now work as normal and the AvP Movie website has been updated.

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  ???   loved every second of that trailer.. things have been quite quiet BUT things are moving fast!!    8)    too kewl..  BuGz   ;D  

OMG...THAT ROCKS DIS MOVIE IS GONA KICK SOME ASS YEAH!!!!   8)     8)     8)  

Christ! I think I just shit my pants!!  -Rusty Nails

That was awsome!!!

looks badass thanks 4 puttn tha save link i coundnt c it on apple .com

really don'T know why so many people are against anderson....he'S the perfect director for this film (we all know this because of event horizon) and finaly the trailer shows it....THIS FILM WILL ROCK.....  PS.: really great site....thanx a lot for the energy you put into it

  ;D     ;D   AT LAST IM SHAKING WITH EXCITEMENT, THIS FILM IS GOING TO BE EXCELLENT, WOW WOW OWO

Screenshots 10, 21, 22 and 24 looks kinda Resident Evil   >:D   Overall atmosphere looks like RE too - cramped, claustrophobic and low-budget. They are on Earth, god damn it, where is open spaces? All in all, we'r e gonna see another popcorn movie... or not?    ;)  

  ???  this film is is going 2 b da best aliens rule will we see alot of a queen in the movie every 1 keep doing what your doing long live k is my catchphrase ok z lets stop ok

I really enjoyed the teaser trailer! I'm unable to view the official site coz I can't geta plugin (works computer!) Thanks Darkness for all the AvP info. Why's the movie out in U.K in Oct 2004?   ;D  

i mean long live Z and k...and the predators look really cool the team that did the preds did i really nice job.I think that dis coud be is best movie.Lest just all be happy that there is a alien vs predator movie,cuz dis movie at one point was never gona be made  8)  long live Z

really don't know why so many people are against anderson....he'S the perfect director for this film (we all know this because of event horizon) and finaly the trailer shows it....THIS FILM WILL ROCK.....   PS.: really great site....thanx a lot for the energy you put into it

I can't download the trailer for some reason,anyway from what i've seen from these screenshots this movie is gonna KICK ASS!!!!!!!!

Somethings wrong every time I try to download the trailer from apple I get an message saying unable to find the website. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong.

is there some thing wrong with the link because whenever i clicked the link apple.com gives me this page not found craploa

Did you read the update on the homepage? Apple have removed all links to the trailer. Probably due to the popular demand. I\'m sure it will be back on there soon. And I can\'t host it on AvPGalaxy because there\'s a small file-size limit in place.

That clears things up,cheers!  Anyway has anyone got an actual release date for the UK.

Can anyone mirror the large version? I haven't been able to find it anywhere    :-\  

It\'s getting released October 22nd in the UK. For people who haven\'t downloaded the above trailer, here\'s a temporary mirror for the high-res trailer: www.muenchen-surf.de/locusta/avp_internet_m480.zipCopy and paste the above link into address bar...

Don't worry,I've found the release date. On another note has anyone seen what the PredAlien hybrid looks like?

Thanx for the mirror site.

Yea, me too, no trailer for smallz...   :-\  

God dammit - I waited 4 this movie 14 years !!!!    ???     ???  

is it me or duz tha dead boddies circled round look abit like dead preadator boddies,  wicked trailer.  eye mon

I just wanted to say i saw the new alien vs predator trailer and i thought it was great. two thumbs up for paul anderson. every one really needs to stop talking bad about anderson he is doing a great job, and he is the only one that had the guts to take this movie so cut the guy some slack would you because every one who keeps talking about him knows that they couldn't do any better if they tried.

As I\'ve said on the frontpage, Apple have removed all links to this trailer due to the increased server load it was getting. Check the comments in the news post above this for a link to another mirror site.

jus watched it again yeah they do look like pred boddies   guys check out the pred artwork theres sum new work by the bailey brothers they gotta b professionals

yeeeeaaaa; I

the link wont work for me   >:D     ???  

Bastard FOX! They've taken the new teaser offline! Why? Why? Why? I hadn't even seen it (but thanks for the screenshots). I'm so pissed!

nvm i saw the teaser but in the 27th pic where something is grabbing something what is it?

looks very nice... what about the story?    ???  

Thanks for the mirror Darkness. After wathcing that I really do believe now that Paul Anderson can pull this movie off. At first I devistated that he was doing the the movie, but now I'm all for it.   ;D  

Predator grabbing an Alien by the throat.

oh yeah baby   ;D   star wars aint got s**t on this. anderson is going to pull this off. how cool do the preds look, even the body movement is spot on    ;D   and best of all the storyline is good. lets rock hicks   ;D  

wwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooow!! Love it! The music and intro are very reminiscent of the original Alien. If Paul Anderson can maintain that level of creepiness that the first film had + the all out action of the Aliens then we are in for one killer film!

Absolutely kick ass. The Predators look great! I'm definitely even more pumped for the movie now.

Looks great but i hate but i still like how the aliens look in ALIENS and i like the original look of the predator.  I hate funky new designs on pred mask.. to fake for me.  Overall looks sorta great but i still gotta wait for the special effects of the pred guns then ill comment.  Still cant get over alien becuase i really like the dry hard endoskeleton idea that aliens have just like a cricket, and not that wet look alien res had.

The effects of the creatures look amazing!! This is gonna b gr8, shame about the alien 5 sequel not going ahead, although if there is money to be made fox will definatly go for it!!

looks good but rest assured it will be pap by the time it gets to the theatres. Someone said popcorn movie and yes thats exactly what it will be I think, sadly.   ???  

  ;D  i just saw it and it looks great i cant wait for da film 2 come out darkness keep doing what your doing your web site is da best  long live k

I'll tell you this. If Paul Anderson messes this up he will be in the s**t hole foever in my opinion. Yet I still think this wont happen or at least I hope not.

just to clear things up, the new predator helmet design is just to distingush the lead predator. the other 4 predators in the movie have the original helmet designs. and i think in that last screenshot, thats the predalien choking the warrior alien. look at the hand, its not an alien or predator hand, its a clear mixture.

in the 27th screenshot its an alien in combat with a predator, whats more is it looks like the predator general, and it also looks like hes in trouble. i know all about this movie, i am a resourse of vast knowledge! lol   ;D   just kidding. but i do know a helluvalot about it so ask me if ya need to, my sources are concrete.

nope its a pred hand since it has that thing on its wrist.  I just hope theres one scene where theres a pred poping a shit load of aliens with his shoulder cannon at some sweet camera angels.  Plus sucks thats theres only a few humans and pred becuase i really wanted to see the aliens queen or even a alien take out a shit load of pre/humans.  Guess the alien has the upper hand yet still gets its ass kicked

just to clear things up, this predator helmet design is in the film and is the helmet of the leader predator so as to distingush him from the other 4 predators. also, this acid grid alien is also in the movie as if you look at the 18th screenshot you will see this alien in the backround ready to kill the forfront character.

I have a question for The Real Predator. I have watched both predator movies and clearly Predator can only see in infrared. Yet in the movie Aliens the marines can not pick up the Aliens on infrared. So my question is how can Predators detect or even see Aliens if they give of no body heat.

I Saw it a couple of times, and it lookes very good    ;D   The preds as well as the Aliens. The only thing i did not see was a predalien    :-\   But   ;D   Maybe in a longer trailer.But the trailer looks awesome! By the way does anyone know when The movie comes out in Holland? The same as in the U.S.?or Later?   ;D  

know wut would be sweet instead of 5 preds, millions of preds vs millions of aliens like a all out war.

well Vekin, in Predator 2, the Predator can't see the humans in that meat/slaugther house building, cuz the temperture is so low and the humans are in their suits. but then the pred changes through 3 - 4 different infrared visions till it actually can see them.. so i don't think that'll be a problem for the preds at least. but lets get an answer from 'The Real Predator'    :)  

yeah i wanna see a huge predator and alien fight.  Something like the war in terminator.  Just a dead plant and they both fight it out.

That does not quite fully answer my question Venenoso because infrared can only be seen through heat no matter what degree you look at the infared ray. I am still really confused about this.

Predator could only see the heat from their lights not the actual people. Venenoso

This movie looks great...very very scary. The new helmet is tight, kinda like the one in Predator 2...I hope a predalien shows up in the film, it would be cool to see. Peace.   ;D  

  ;D   Woo! finaly after all these years the big show down is F'ing here.. ita about time i think   :)  

  >:D   no matter what temperature it is up there in the north.THEIR STILL BE HEAT FROM THE PEOPLE CUZ THERE NOT WEARING THOSE SUITS FROM PRED 2!!!!

Vekin have u play the games? they kinda explain a few things about the visions..well not really.but there is a seaperate vision for each race.

This is so f**king-great! I have waited so long for those kinds of screenshots!   ???  

Obviously humans give off body heat. I am asking how can Predators see the Aliens? Predators can only see in infrared. Yet in the movie Aliens the marines could not pick up the Aliens on infrared. So how can the Predators detect the Aliens if they do not give off any body heat? All I know that if I see a Alien glowing bright red in Predators vision in the new AVP movie then I am going to be very disapointed in Mr. Anderson.    >:D  

  8)  i wander if we will see another newborn alien in the filmdoes any1 know how long da film is going 2 b  long live k and z we r forever

Saw the trailer yesterday morning and then got darkness to send it to me last night(thanks mate) The trailer rocks and this movies gonna kik ass!

The Aliens give off phoromones, just like a human with a chestbuster (that's way they don't attack alien hosts). The Predator has several different modes of vision, some are : Heat vision, Phoromones and Tech (It's how they can see their fellow teammates while they are invisible). That's how they can lock on, just flip the vision mode into Phoromones mode. The Predators' natual vision is infared, which is based on light.

This could be cool, I just hope Anderson hasn't taken bits from the original films, then "glued" them together. Fingers crossed!

man this movie = gone rock i also waited so long for a avp movie cous te game is cool and i always wondert why dont they make a movie of it and now its coming (want some candy)

The movie has things related to the games avp-avp2:the special mask for the pred leader, diferent visions. It

I have played AVP 1 and it was nice.But i have 1 question. In the game AVP 1 the alien hv a kind of glow in the dark vision just like the predator's 3th vision.Does tat mean the alien can change vision too? I also wonder wat the glow in  the dark vision is used for?

  8)  its the best thing evers see

My computer cant run quicktime. what happend on the trailer???   ???     :-\  

hey Vekin, glad to answer your question funnily enough someone mentioned pharomones when in actual fact it isnt. when i first asked myself this question i thought it was pharamones too. however, the predators can see the aliens through a heat grading system that will be introduced into the new Alien versus predator movie. The heat grading system that is built into the helmet divides up all modes of vision (heat, tech, fibres) and splices them together creating a three dimensional vision which allows them to easily spot the aliens. the vision is so sensitive that the predators, in the new movie can actually see the organs of humans and Aliens as opposed to just being originally able to see the bone physic! pretty cool eh?   ;)  

trust me, its the Alien/predator hybrid choking the alien in the last screenshot!   ;D   i dont want to come across real big headed guys, ive just read loadsa books on Predator, have all the comics and a few friends at fox! im actually a nice guy! lol   ;D   buy hey everyones entitled to their opinion!   :-\  

If it is the Hybrid choking the alien, how come he has that wrist thing on his arm?

hey real pred, you seem like you know what your talking about, however is the pharamones theory even slightly plausible?

Hey orochi avlis, i trust your a die AvP fan too? pleased to meet you   ;D   its quite cool actually, you'll see in the movie what happens. the hybrid now has the combined strength of an alien and a predator. but now has the intelligence of a predator.. ill let you think about that eh   ;)  

neo, the matrix rite? no unfortunately the pharamones theory is incorrect. if you think about it, pharamones are built more on a sense of smell or aura which of course relates nothing to technology or seeing so to speak.   ;)  

ah i see, you definately do know what your talking about! any interesting Predator facts?

A side note in real life the US DOD have developed a set of gogles that can peer through almost anything.  No not night vision.  it works from low ir to Xray and is frequency selectable.  So if there was a person inside the boot of a car you could see the person from a distance outside the car very sharply but in grey scale.  The only catch is you have to focus a frequency eg microwave at what you want to see so it car reflect back to the gogles.  So what is in science fiction is in fact a reality.   Wiked hey

no problem! well heres a good one although it may not be a "fact" but the female predators are bigger and more violent than the male predators! thats gotta be scary! i tell ya theres no such thins as a leash in the predator world!   :D 

yeah i did hear about that military breakthrough! how cool is that?!

the females are even more violent! ha! cool. thanks man, you an AvP guru!

I agree with The Real predator on the mask/vision mode theory. In predator 2 when the pred looses his mask, he still sees in infra red, and uses his mask to flick through different vision modes (one of which will allow him to see alines, another for preds etc. and maybe a new one for humans, aliens and preds alike) The real purpouse of the mask is for recording the predator's hunts and as back-up vision modes incase shit hit's the fan.   ;D  

ah, Darkness is the guru. i am simply an overabundance of information!

couldnt have put it better myself Olopolip   ;) 

Hey, I got a quetion for you Real Predator; in predator one, when the pred looses his mask... his vision isnt quite infra red--- it's wierd... what's going on there? Is he colour-blind or is it a mistake in the movie?

Well, as we know the predators natural vision is infared, which is based on light. there could be two possibilities its like this in the movie.1) the special effects team put infared with a heat by shooting the scene with both cameras angled from the same position, giving us the mix (this is how they shot the helmat visions) thus giving us a more clear infrared vision. 2) they just wanted it to look weird cose after all it is an alien! lol .i do know what you mean though because the vision knid of darkens arnies body hence creating a less realistic infared vision. what do think? i wouldnt say its a mistake though.

The background is blue when the infra-red is on when he wears the mask, but it's red when he takes it off (it's not like that in predator 2) which could be an individual thing of the predator.... perhaps when Anrie shot him with that explosive arrow it caused damage to the Predator's retina, cusing his vision to go all wierd, as happens to humans when a flashbang goes off... and his eyes just hadn't recovered. That's all i can think of.

sounds like a pretty good theory alrite! although i reckon if that was the case there would have been an emphasis put on the damage that was done to the predators retina. remember we aint all as intelligent as you to think up that cool theory! hell i never thought of that! Where you from?

I'm from  a little county called Wales in the UK. I don't know how or why I think of these things... just get a few facts, use some imagination and common sence and voila! I'm just a big predator fan, and I like aliens too (preds will kick their asses). By the way, where r u from and how come u know so much m8?

Thanks for answering my question The Real Predator, but from my understanding your are saying that the Predators new visions include (heat,tech,fibres). So he uses only the tech and fibres to spot the aliens because the heat part of the vision would be useless. So I would please like to know more about what the tech and fibres senses of the helmet do and what kind of visual image do you see of the aliens through the predators eyes of the aliens?

WOW.. The Real Predator, you really need to get your facts straight first! I'm like the biggest pred fan: I got all the predator comic books, all the aliens vs predator books and in the trailer, you can clearly see that its a predator chocking an alien ( in a particular scene ) the pred we see with the weird helm ( bug like ), thats the scar predator and the predator we see looking at an alien, thats the same pred that's showing is whrist blade and his name is chopper predator. The leader predator seems to have a somewhat 'normal' mask... we see him next to the girl in the trailer for a split second and for the rest of the preds, although we didn't see them all, I'm sure they all have different masks.  If you don't believe that the pred with the 'bug like' helm ISN'T the leader, go see on the 'Home' page of this site and you'll see a sketch of the face of the 'bug like' pred with the name 'Scar Predator' and then, go see on any website featuring the Alien vs Predator toys ( McFarlane ) and there, you'll see that the 'Leader Predator' isn't the same as 'Scar Predator' ( they are 2 different toys ), which means they are not the same person... easy!  As for 'Chopper Predator', I saw a pic of what the toy of him would look like and he had an extremely long wrist blade, that's why I believe that the other pred we see in the trailer is him!  ... Long live Z!

Im totally die hard Alien and Predator Fan Mofos, Im from england, cant wait to see this movie, your facts on Pred visions was mighty interesting to read and cool to read different ideas.  Im going to be arranging a trip to london to see AVP movie when it reaches here in the UK. Me and two others (hard core fans) I have been following rumours etc on this movie for years and ever since it became official i check the net 2-3 times a day for any hot news, I feel sad for liking these movies so much but they just rock, and im giddy as heck about new AVP movie, I have MSN if you wish to discuss movie, would be cool to share my enthusiasm with others...

Mabey you could answer my question Z. Ho is it that Predators can see the Aliens when they do not give off any body heat?

  ;D   that is a amazing!!! i like the new predators mask

hey Z. the predator that shows his wrist blades is the scar predator. the AvP toys have not yet been made so the pictures you are luking at are false. the predator that is staring at the alien at the end of the trailer is NOT the leader. i meant to merely establish that the predator that hosts the new helmet emerges in the film as a main character, my mistake if i said he was the predator leader. sure we dont know yet who the predator leader is. and the choking scenes clearly shows that the hand is neither predator nor alien. the predator hand is far bulkier and hosts a street gang like glove. the thing on the wrist is what the hybrid acquires when it kills one of the predators. the toys cant be used as a legitimate argument as we have not yet seen them.

Z i have a question and i was hoping you could help me you said earlyer that you can go to McFarlane web site and find the predator toys form the movie but the problem is the toys were not on display yet only the names. and none of the toys for the AVP movie if you look closely say predator it says something like scar alien and chopper alien insted of scar predator because the other toy predators have a predator lable on them so was that just a mistake on their part? and i did not see a leader predator toy so im a little confused. can you please clear this up for me because i was under the impression that the scar predator was the head pred. THANKS Z

i just re read your comment there z. what your saying is that the pred that protracts his blades is the chopper predator. however clearly is isnt, its the scar predator. look more closely at the screenshot and you will see that it is the new unique helmet. your saying however that the chopper pred is the one with the long blades and your proof is the trailer. however it is actually the scar predator. we only 3 predators in the trailer. the scar pred, the chopper pred and a pred that is standing behind sanaa(yet to establish his role allthough it is likely that it is the leader.) it seems you are wrong

2 things! I always assumed that the reason the preds vision became all red was because the jungle was insanely hot and sweltering and humid f**king up his vision and thats one of the reasons he has the mask, so that it can regulate or distinguish body heat from jungle heat! also, the predators vision to see aliens actually it sees the aliens bioelecticity discharge caused by the acidic blood!  the see through vision is actually to measure bone structure and muscle tone, basically to find out if the prey is worth the fight!

hey richie, there were 3 predators in the trailer, one with the new helmet design. another with his helmet damaged as we can see while he peers at the alien and one last one standing behind sanaa lathan. the scar pred is the one with the unique new helmet, this particular predator, whether hes the leader or not, emerges as one of the films main characters. the chopper pred is simply a pred that has had his helmet damaged in battle and the pred that is standing behind sanaa is most likely to be either a normal soldier or the actual leader of the predators hunting party. clear now pal?

Quote2 things! I always assumed that the reason the preds vision became all red was because the jungle was insanely hot and sweltering and humid f**king up his vision and thats one of the reasons he has the mask, so that it can regulate or distinguish body heat from jungle heat! also, the predators vision to see aliens actually it sees the aliens bioelecticity discharge caused by the acidic blood!  the see through vision is actually to measure bone structure and muscle tone, basically to find out if the prey is worth the fight!

true, however, the predators natural vision is infared. the helmet he wears is there to give him an advantage and to record his hunts. the new heat grading system combines all of the original visions to form a vision that allows the predators to see ALL! you must remember that the predators vision is NOT only based on heat by any stretch of the imagination. this is how they can see the aliens hence the aliens dont give off body heat but the predator can still see them. remember predator 2(although some of us dont want to) he switches through various visions, including fibres, ultraviolet and tech. the heat vision is NOT the only media the predator can see in. i reckon the predator would see an alien as a grey figure and i should also add that even if the predators vision was based only on heat(which it isnt) then it would still be able to distingush the moving alien as we can see in predator 1 that the predator can actually see all of the jungle surroundings, the heat is merely highlighted.

just for the record Z, i have all the comics too, have read all the novels, have had a letter printed in the prey tell section, hav met stan winston and been to the AvP set in prague.. i have nothing to gain through lying!   ;) 

also the index finger on the hand that is choking the alien is split in two. and predators dont have 6 fingers.   8) 

i agree with the real Predator, he has argued his point convincingly and he does seem to know what hes talking about. i agree with him on the vision too. i reckon hes just trying to provide a bit of information and that is bad form dumping on him for it Z!

first off this is going to kick ass and sounds like it will have a great storyline from all that i have read. 2 before posting a comment spyro read up about the location of the movie dumb shit.

Ive been a student film maker for 4 years i got my diploma at the NY film school.I know what its takes to make a good film and a good script.i want to take back what i said about paul anderson and how badly he was going to F___ Up this movie that i have been waiting  10 years for this film, every since i got the first aliens vrs predator comic book.I love all the movies he has done, but they are not great films, i like them because i understand his work,and  what hes trying to say since since me being a film maker myself once,i get lost in his films because i know what he is trying Pull off.But this is Aliens vrs Predator,and this movie must not be like the last films he has done,like RESIDENT EVIL for example,it was a good movie but did not push the film to its true state.If he Pulls this one off,i will forgive and forget.Paul IF you are listening may god help you in this long hard road you are going through,i know you can do it,and BETTER DO IT!not just for yourself but for the fans.ohh yah and by the way, the trailer looks great.

real predator what do u have to prove dude. just let the guy be wrong or right whatever and when the movie comes out we will all see.... oh and 2 get out of the damned house and do something.. get a life other than predator worship. they arnt real and even if u know everything about them u still going to be a loser who can only spout off random ass facts about fictitous characters, and will have no real skills in life.

That can not be a predalien because the shot before it is showing the alien and predator head to head is virtually the same. The backgrounds the same, both of the shot lenghths are the same in both images and he obviosly has a wrist band on which would really be lame if the predalien took it of a dead predator that just doesn't make any since at all.  Thanks for the answer Pvt Hudson. the boielectricity from the acid really does make a lot more sense then what The Real Predator was talking about.

yo soundwave, i got nothing to prove! im just giving my opinion! if im wrong then i will stand corrected. making harsh judgements is for children, so do you want me to enroll you in barneys school of fun? you dont know the second thing about me. i have nothing against Z or anyone on this site, we're all just giving our opinion. your the sad one pal...

hey Z,there is nothing to say that these shots are the same or different. in all fairness, just to cover my own ass because some people seem to fly off the handle for no reason, you could be wright, i could be wrong, hell we could both be wrong! we all Pred fans. on a lighter note, ya know predator vs judge dredd? i believe the 2nd issue of the three part series is somewhat limited. i have it but do you think it would be worth anything more than the other comics in the predator line?

soundwave you really are a bit of a prick arent you? im guessing your between 18 - 22 and your one of these people who gets pleasure outa stirring shit. u called me sad? i reckon your best friend is your right hand... poor poor soundwave.

yo Z, peace man, we're both obviously pretty big pred fans. lets just agree to disagree!   ;) 

avp-movie.com has the trailer for all to see

We've been waiting a long time for this one   >:D  

All i have got to say is im rooting for the preds all the way. aliens are cool but against the biggest badest hunters that ever lived, nope i dont think so.OH and THE REAL PREDATOR thanks for answering my question. im just a big pred fan like your self. iv probably seen the predator and alien movies hundreds of times and i must say the way this movie is going and how the plot of the movie is formed, it looks to me one of the preds is going to become a man. Personally im hoping its the scar predator. may be two preds will come out alive but im thinking its probably only going to be one. What do you think?       OH AND IF PAUL ANDERSON READS THIS YOU DA MAN !!!

hey real predator, man i agree with you, i dont know why that soundwave guy is dumping on you. everything youve said sounds damn wright, and to top it off you still so open minded as to say you'd stand corrected. i likes ya    ;)   and im a girl jus so you dont get like totally freaked out!

Hey Rich! you back bro    8)   have you read the comics by any chance? actually i reckon no predators will survive at all. one of them will definately blossom into a likable hero, but i reckon he'll die saving the last remaining humans in a cool and valiant way! i think that'd be cool! i agree man, paul anderson does look like he could pull it off, i had my reservations however, the trailer lifted my spirits!   ;D 

i believe the trailer was taken off the net because so many people tried to access it at once?! thats what i heard now but i could be wrong.. i reckon it'll be back soon.

yo real predator, hows it going m8? one question, what do the predators call themselves? and what was the first ever predator comic called and what was it about?

hey, the preda call themselves "Dachna", pronounced really german! the first pred comic is simply called "PREDATOR" and it follows the story of Dutches brother. it takes place in the city and when the predators begin to show up, "Schaef" as hes known, goes back to the jungle to try and piece together the mystery of dutches disappearance with the hope to gain an advantage over the creature that now hunts him. its really good, one of the better predator comic series.   ;D  

i hope the predators have a fighting style to kill the aliens in the movie,i hope that they have more of a realistic tactical deployment in the film where they work more as a band of brothers"TEAM" instead being like crazy monsters that hunt with pretty weapons.The predators in this film need to show more feeling  than in the other films,where the predators were more like skilled monsters that seek out and kill and we know nothing about them.This time i want to know more about the predator than what we know already that they are hunters from nother planet.

What I would like to see is the Predators kinda of staying calm systematicaly hunting the Aliens.Then once they are spotted we should see them use some brutal tacktics that we have never seen before to try and kill these things. Also I was thinking. Since the predators can only see the bioelectricity given off by the alien's acid blood. Do the preds know special places on the body where to strike the alien in order not to get any spray back from the aliens blood if they choose not to use their shoulder cannon.

I just hope they didnt mess this one up,my god this is Aliens vrs Predator people! it cant be a sucky movie like resident evil,this has to be the best alien and predator movie alive,it does look like a good movie, but does it look like its going to be better than all of the other ones,i f**kin!!!!!!!!!! know?!we are going to have to wait........................................ ............................................ ............................................ ............................................ ............................................ ..........................and see.no matter how much we talk about this shit,we going to have to wait and see little kittys.IN TIME WE WILL SEE,YAH YAH YAH YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH.ok enough

uhhh i dont know what else to say people,but i can tell you one thing im going to slowly slip into madness until i see this movie and if they f**ked up this movie i will kill everyone in the movie thearter out of pure madness i already have my paulse rifle and 3 clips for the event,any avp fans that want to join me?i have 3 extra paulse rifles,and one smart gun,now......WHOS WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....................... ............................................ ....uhhh guess no one is,im just being funny. dammit

Somebody should see if they can call it now. Which movie is going to make more money "BLADE TRINITY" or "AVP". Definitely my money is on AVP. What do you guys think?   :)  

Hey The Real Predator waz up man. thats really interesting i never thought of that. a predator dieing for a human i do have some alien vs predator comics but not all of them so i really dont have a big back groung on the comic. but i now every thing that has to do with the movie. what can i say i am a multimedia major thats what i study how movies are made and stuff. but any way enuf about that i really hope any way that a pred comes out victorios and if he does die it better be for a fine lady because if not that might make me sad.   ;D  

uhhhhh zzzzzzzzzzzzzz im sliping into madnessssssss 26  more weeks until we will seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Okay, I'm back... time to answer all those questions! To make all this easier, I'll make seperate sections.  1. Regarding the Chopper Pred that we see showing his blades in the trailer / On pic 23, look at his shoulder pad and then go check pic 13 and check the shoulder pad of the other pred ( Srac Pred ) You can clearly see that the Scar Pred's shoulder pad is A LOT bigger ( and has more spikes ) than the the one that the Chopper Pred has...   2. Also, I KNOW that we don't see the actual toys on the Mcfarlane website, but we can see the names: Elder Predator, Scar Predator and Chopper Predator. I found on another forum a picture representing a 'sketch' of what the actual Chopper Predator toy would be like ( and it's exactly like the one we see in the trailer ). The only problem is that that site got closed down, because they weren't supposed to show that pic ( illegal ) and that's why I can't post it here... although, if you like, I could send it to you by e-mail.  3. Real Predator: I heard you say that the female Predator was generally bigger and stronger than the males, but that's COMPLETELY FALSE. I saw that exact information of 2-3 different sites ( sites devoted to Preds ), but those sites are 'independent' and the info they post there is unreliable as they tend to make up most of it... The ONLY thing we know about females predators is represented on a card ( that I'm holding right now ) and it shows a relatively bigger male predator jumping on a smaller female ( part of a mating ritual :P ). This card comes directly from the 'Alien vs. Predator Universe' serie and it was drawn by Neil Vokes ( Card number 54 to be precise ). That's the only accurate thing we know about females pred... anything else is unfounded or simply false.  4. As for pred visions... As you remember, the Pred in 'Predator 2' has many different 'spectral' visions. They are not confined to the mediocre 'Heat vision', as they also have: X-Ray vision, Infrared, Gamma, Night vision, Light vision, etc. As we know, the producers of AvP said that the Predators would have 'improved' technology compared to their 'relatives' in other Pred movies... I read somewhere, in an early article, the guy that is in charge of the special effects said that they would now have a vision that would allow them to see the actual 'physical aptitude' of their victims ( i.e.: they would be able to see if someone has a broken leg, internal bleeding or even if someone had a pacemaker, etc. ) As for how they would see the aliens... it's kind of hard to say... If you look at the game ( which is somewhat reliable ) the predators have a 'special' vision that allows them to see the aliens, but weather or not Paul Anderson is going to do the same thing is still a mistery to me... if so, how would the pred be able to see them without their mask? Maybe they could have some type of 'bomb' or small device that they would throw and would spead some kind of liquid / gaz that would 'stick' to the body of whoever comes in contact with it and allow the preds to see it. Unless the aliens' bodies actually DO produce some sort of heat that would allow the preds to see them without any kind of 'special' vision.  5. As for the 'Predalien'... Real Predator, I don't know what kind of glasses you wear, but I think you should change them, as everybody else here clearly sees the hand of a PREDATOR grabbing the throat of the alien ( there's a freaking wrist band! ), nothing else... We hear the sound of the alien 'screaming' and then we hear the sound of a predator. And even if it was a Predalien ( which it is not ), why would they show it in the trailer?!? It would ruin absolutely everything... Heck, they didn't even show the Queen, even though we KNOW she has a big role in the movie ( fight ), just because Paul Anderson wants to keep some 'mistery'... otherwize, it would be like ruining the Biggest punch of the movie in the trailer... which would be quite dumb.  6. Question about Judge Dredd vs Predator comics / Well, I have them all and I saw them on sell on ebay at 0.99$ :P The ones that are worth A LOT more are the ones that are more rare, like 'Aliens vs Predator n.0', which was made after 'Aliens vs Predator n.1'.  7. *POSSIBLE SPOILER* ( Not sure... just guessing ) In pic 21, we see the girl aiming something with her gun and she has what looks like a 'crescent moon' in her forehead ( In Dark Horse comics, it was a symbol that the preds would put on their forehead as a sign of honor ) and she doesn't have that mark in other screenshots... So that might emply that the preds 'give' it to her at some point in the movie ( maybe she saved the live of one of them ) So, that could mean that the movie is actually some kind of 'spin-off' of the comics, which would emply that at the end, only her and 1 pred would escape from the pyramid and one of the preds, like Broken Tusk for example, would probably die near the end ( Broken Tusk = Leader ) We then already know that the leader is going to ally himself with the girl... I find it so cheezy, so I hope it's not true... as every pred fan knows that the preds are all about honor and would rather die that ally themselves with 'weaker' beings. I know that that's what they do in the comics, so maybe Paul wants to use the idea... I just hope one of the preds acts like a 'Lone wolf' and just doesn't give a damn about the humans and doesn't want to ally with them ( he would rather die! ) If there's one like that, he will surely die a horrible death in the movie ( guys like that always do ), still... he would be the most 'authentic' and badass pred!  Long live Z!

In the books the Preds are known to stab the aliens in a soft part of their heads with their wrist blades or spear... this aparently causes no spray. Also when they fire on one they had a plasma gun and could time the shot so that all the blood was blasted backwards.

When the Female preds are mentioned in the books they are said to be the hardest hunt, and the males have to prove themselfs to be worthy of hunting them. They never leave the home planet.

Hey Nudge. I always thought that if a human or a alien was shot by the predator's shoulder cannon the wound would cauterises. Such as when Blain was shot in Predator. Which would cause no splash back. I am not sure though if this applies to aliens or not.

  ;D   I think i have found something on the infared...In Aliens, the aliens hive is beside the the core of the power plant or what ever it is. The aliens seem to like heat not cold like in Alien and Resurrection. Thus when the marines used infared they probaly couldnt get a signature is becuz of all the heat

i just have one question WHY THE F**k r their scientists in aliens vs predator. Isnt supposed to be just the aliens and predators fighting...Thus the name. and they said there is going to people with guns it doesnt even seem the have any guns at all.

I thought of that to but was still unsure wether or not that was the reason why they counld't be seen on infrared. It seems like they would not even bother to use it if the temprature was that hot in there.

ohh god dont start that i think that was the only thing that they f**ked up in instead of putting stupid ass scientists they should put in navy seals or something, something anything but scientists.hhhhhhhh im tired with this shit 26 more weeks unit we seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,ill cry if they mess this movie up.hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh.

they probaly thought the aliens teampurate would be higher then in there becuz of all the heat maybe thats why....i think the reason there is so much different heat signatures..becuz the humans is the blue infared..and the red infared is for the aliens..and all that other good stuff.

Alrighty. Thanks for answering all my questions everybody and let the wait contiune. This movie is going to be what absolute is.

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhh,yes the longgggggggg longggggg wait.i mean could you see it,im mean,just stop and think about it.Could you imagine just for one second,your in the thearter,and the movie turns out to be JUST LIKE resident evil!,bad acting bad actions scenes.What would you do people please eveyone here whos listening,please tell me EVERYONE! what would you do if it ends up being like that,could you move on with your life.... and go see blade3 like if nothing happened?i couldnt do it ...sorry call me crazy.If they f**k this movie up it will scare me for the rest of my lifeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

wow wow wow buddy take it easy. You must have faith in Paul. Believe in him. Don't look at his past. Look at his future.

Z thank you for answering my question and it would be great if you e-mail me that picture of the chopper predator sketch my e-mail address is choreo1@hotmail.com THANKS AGAIN!

I got a question for real predator. CAN aliens change vision too.?? because in the game AVP 1 alien can change into a kind of glow in the dark vision. so tats y i wonder

Regarding the 'real' name of the Predator race... Unlike what The Real Predator said, it's not the 'Dachna', but the 'Yautja' and if you don't believe me, the're a heck load of sites that will confirm this.  Regarding the question about weather or not the Aliens have different types of visions / Well, as you know, the Aliens don't actually have any eyes, so that leads me to belive that they rely on odors instead... Of course, in the game, the HAD to come up with some kind of vision, otherwize it would've been impossible to play with them! Also, remember in Alien 3, when the alien is trying to catch the prisonners... we see 'through her eyes' for a few seconds and it looks like it's simply a normal vision, but somewhat 'stretched'... weather or not this was the actual 'alien vision' or if it was simply an idea of the producers to be able to see what the alien WOULD BE seeing if she had eyes is still a mistery though...  Concerning the Alien 'acid blood' / It does in fact damage the predators ( i.e.: in the comics, we see a pred get 'hit' by some of it and his shoulder pad melts! ) I think that's why, in the comics, we see preds with heavy armors, as it probably protects them a lot against the alien's acid blood. I read somewhere that in the movie, the preds would have some type of 'medicine' to help heal any kinds of wounds resulting of contact with acid blood...  Long live Z and k!

Hey Z. we aint enemies are we?   ;D   lol. unfortunately you are wrong yet again. "yautja" is the name given to the predator youths. "Dachna" is the races actual name. also alien versus predator cards your referring to, are they collectable card game your talking about? if so, these cards are not a viable source of information at all, some idiotic distributer pieced together shots from the different franchises in the hope to keep the AvP series going. none of this information is reliable. secondly, female predators are intensely more violent than males during the mating rituals, it is based on the black widow way of mating, that sometimes a predator might not even survive the rampant sex! lol    ;)   also, the games arent that reliable either, although distributed by fox, the designers created these looks to bump up the predator image, they were not created based on the theories that were taken into consideration for the movies. ALSO, we do have another female reference to the predators in the WITCHBLADE/ALIENS/DARKNESS/PREDATOR crossover, the predator in this comic is a female! i do agree, the acid blood does harm the predators. did you hear that the predators in the new film are going to have 20inch shoulder guns    >:D   i wasnt too pleased to hear about this. but my hopes are still high. can i ask where your from? could i email you?

hey cody, id have to agree with Z on this one, we all know that Aliens dont actually have eyes. they just had to come up with a vision for the game otherwise youd be paying for a black screen! They get around using sense of odour which is highly acute. this would probably be based on pharamones also. i didnt like the awful alien 3 film or the fact that we were given the chance to "see" through the eyes of an alien because simply when i saw it i said to myself, "thats a bit stupid, THEY DONT HAVE EYES!?!" but then again they got a twat of a first time director to kill Alien and although it was slighty=ly redeemed with resurrection, i still wasnt majorly impressed with jean pierre jaunet either!

i read somewhere that the female predators are ridiculously more violent than the males. what are these cards your talking about Z??

Hey Alien 5! what ya think of the trailer?

i saw it this morning, im dying with the flu and im off school! its great, i really like the new predator helmet, looks cool. i cant wait for this movie. do you know anything else about it? like any cool scenes?

hey im dying sick too, only in have Bronchitus or however ya spell it! no work for the rest of the week   ;)   yeah i believe theres a cool scene where one of the predators leaps a 25ft gap in the chamber of gods and while in mid air he cloaks himself but the camera still follows him! how cool is that! also, i really hope the lead character predator has an amazing fighting style, real martial arts like, cose i mean come on, imagine how fast yad have to be to kill an alien ina hand to hand duel! defo samurai like!   ;)  

oh shit, that sounds cool. i hope theyre real martial arts like too! that would be awesome. how do you know about this scene?

this particular scene is mentioned in one of the interviews, i think its the one with the special effects guys. you can read these interviews on this very site and there are a shit load load of spoilers in them!

Regarding the Cards / I'm no talking about the cards from the 'Alien vs Predator' card game, as I know that those aren't accurate, let even true at all... I'm talking about actual cards from Dark Horse that date back to 1994 ( from Topps Trading Cards ).  When it comes to the crossovers with WITCHBLADE/DARKNESS, etc. I don't consider them as being 'true' to the Predator universe, although they were made by Dark Horse... They were made by different artists which 'made up' most of the story / background. It has been confirmed many times that the female predators never leave the planet, as they stay at home to care for the kids ( they have about 1 a year, as they need a lot of training / education ) As for 'Yautja' being the name of only the young preds, that's not true at all... If you want, go on a site called "Yautja NightBlood", where they will give you the same info I am and there is even a site dedicated to predators called "Yautja". The predator society is as follows:  The "Eta" The untouchables of the Yautja. Mostly they are the lame or the crippled, who are unable (or too cowardly) to join the HUNT. Instead, they serve as slaves and do menial jobs for the Hunters. They are ridiculed and humiliated on a daily basis by the other Yautja.   The "Unblooded" Our children are trained for their future HUNTS. Before their first HUNT they are considered the "Unblooded," juveniles who have yet to prove themselves. They represent about 40% at any one time.   The "Young Bloods" These are the recently "blooded" warriors. They are usually reckless and depressingly keen, trying to make a name for themselves. Many of them are proud of their petty trophies, which amuses the more experienced hunters. About 30% of Yautja at any one time is considered a "Young Blood."   The "Blooded" Though all hunters are considered "Blooded", this usually refers to those who are far from being Young Bloods but not yet an "Ancient" or one of the "Honored." This represents 20% of the Yautja population.   The "Warriors" These are the Yautja who don't hunt with a clan, but engage solo in combat and war. They are violent types, yet well-respected. Special equipment and wepons are given to these conquering Hunters, who travel the galaxy alone as part of their birthright. There are many tales of powerfull Warriors, passed down through generations. They are an elite sect, comprising barely 5% of our race.   The "Honored" These Hunters are the elite of the our society. Not only have they survived many HUNTS, they have gathered many more trophies than the average hunter or have performed a great service to the entire Yautja community. They comprise approximately 10% of the populace.   The "Ancients" The mightiest of the Yautja are the veterans known as the "Ancients." Almost all had been one of the "Honored" and continued to survive for centuries of hunts. Ironically, these are the least concerned by the hunt anymore, focusing their attention to their arthritis instead. They are still great Warriors; they just have too many trophies to care anymore. As a result, they are more compassionate and disciplined than most other Yautja. Many have learned new fighting techniques over the ages. For example, one "Ancient" who had hunted in 16th century Japan learned "Hira Baraki," or two sworded combat, and continues to use it today, and has two custom swords. These represent less than 1% of the entire population.   The "Bad Bloods" The criminal caste. They have gone insane, and are a danger to the Clan. Many have committed crimes such as: murder of another Yautja, killing prey that is not game or failing in the HUNT. These are constantly being tracked by the "Arbitrators." About 5% of all Yautja are "Bad Bloods," and in the above castes the number of these criminals have been added to the total amount.  As you can see, being a 'Yautja' isn't a 'state' in the society, as it is the name of their RACE!  Long live Z and k!

*Typo: The females don't have 1 kid a year, they have about 1 throughout all their life and that's why compretition to get a female is so fierce!

what up people IM BACK. who the hell is this chump pretending to be me!?! i havent been on this site for about 3 days!!! i have just spent the past half hour reading this guys theories, vision theories aside hes talking BOLLOX!! i havent even been in my own house for the past 3 days! im not 18! whoever this punk is he'd better watch it!   >:D   everyone knows the predators are called the yautja, its in practically all the friggn comics. whatever about females being more violent overall, they are definately more violent during their mating rituals. but seriously, this punk ass bitch whoever he is hasnt got a notion and it looks like hes trying to bring me down for some reason. so i invite him to come back here and enlighten us of more of his hollow facts. f**king arsehole... meanwhile, Z has been holding the fort, protecting the preds! good on ya pal. but ya shoulda known it wasnt me man!! anyone who comes onto a predator site claiming to know all and then cant follow through on his facts, come on bro, anyway, im gona post my name in block caps from now, although i hope this not to be copied again for whatever sad reason the prick is doing it, i trust you'll know its me from the CORRECT answers you'll get! actually Z you might actually know just about as much as i do, thats gotta be impressive! do you live in the states? because ive never heard of these cards that you have and id sure like to get a hold of them somehow.--THE REAL PREDATOR

just to officially catch this chump out, the word DACHNA that he is referring to is the predator language for the wrist blades. the YAUTJA is the name of the predator RACE. the subdivions are above and excellently written by Z.   ;) 

the last comment i made on this site was on the 9th under the props section: saying to hell with all that are negative. im not happy to hear see this bollox going on.

I assuming from what I read on Counting Down the last 3 shots could be right before one of the Predators gets hurt.  ***Possible Spoiler*** The Preditor grabs the Alien by the throat. The Alien sticks out its second mouth. The Preditor cuts it off with his throwing star thing and gets sprayed in the face with acid blood.

I have a question about aliens.  WHy would the host of the alien effect the looks of the alien being born?  I mean just becuase the egg is inside a dog why would it look like a dog?  I though its put inside a living thing for warmth and just a place to be born.  How does it have to do with the person or animal?  Also look at this pic i found from another furom.  Its  a scupltur of the alien queen from avp. http://www.palisadestoys.com/new/whatsnew/thebit/AlienPredator/AvPPreview.jpg

I just have to say that I have been waiting for years for a movie like this to come out. I am a big fan of the Predator and hope they kick some Alien ass.   ;D  

What ever the alien is born from it takes the form of.

The reason why the aliens take the form of its host is because it has to adapt itself to its inviroment by mutating resulting in the characteristics of the host in order to survive. Kida like what a virus does when it infects people.

Wow I've missed a lot! How's it going The Real (real) Predator. Good to see that you and Z know what your on about and that idiot who was copying your name has gone! Few.... there was a lot for me to read man... but the facts about vision seem solid still. However, I do have my doubts about that being a Predalien hand in that screenshot for three reasons; 1) Why would one anlien kill another? 2) There's clearly a wristban on. 3) Why would a pred alien put on a wrist band? Tell me what ya think. Hope to see ya on MSN one day m8.

I think the scene with the hand grabing the alien is not a pred alien. for one you clearly hear a pred yell in that scene and a pred alien woulds not attack its own kind. at least i dont think so? so i think that scene with the hand grabing the alien is directly conected to the one scene before it  with the alien looking the pred in the eye. what i think happened is the pred got hurt or something and he's playing dead just like in predator 2. and when the alien gets to close he grabs it. look at the scene carfully both pictures have a back ground that looks the same the only difference is that the two scenes are shot in different angles. What do you think ?

How do the aliens make their "cacoons"

I read some where that their cacoons are made out of the residue the aliens secret from their mouths or those horns on their backs but I am not sure though. You might want to ask THE REAL PREDATOR or Z.

hey, i have to say that i did think it was a predator and still do, but in all fairness, the index finger does seem to be split in two which is odd. which does raise the question. why would an Alien/Predator hybrid wear a wrist unit? to be honest i think its the same shot as the previous one. very interesting, the predator could be playing dead alright, you could definately make that argument from the way the camera angle is. however the camera could be angled this way because the Alien could be taller than the predator? perhaps, we dont know. hey olopolip, yeah can you believe some people? its not very fair at all.  - the vision theories are correct, this punk had read the interviews obviously. in regards to your questions. - an Alien/Predator hybrid is of neither alien nor predator kind, it has no quams with killing either species. this is what makes them so dangerous, they have the combined strength of an Alien and a Predator and the high intelligence of a hunter... a threatening beast....

hey Vekin, yeah i think thats right. the upward bent horns produce a form of this cocoon, however, i also believe the eggs, after the facehuggers leave them, are recycle into this gooy substance and plastered all over the place as a way of marking their territory. im sure there is another way but i cant for the life of me think of it, Z, any suggestions?

That would be cool if the predator plays dead then wakes up and grabs the alien while detonating his self-destruct wrist band. Maybe after all the humans and predators have evecuated the pyramid to destroy all the rest of the aliens and the nest.

that would be cool! have you heard of the scene at the beginning or near the start of the film where there are 3 last Standing Predators aloft one of these ancient pyramids. the camera is tight on the 3 preds as they swing and fight with providence in their vains. the camera begins to slowly pull back and we see the predators battling dozens of aliens!! how cool, but wait, the camera pulls back even further and there are hundreds of aliens!! but wait, the camera keeps pulling back and we see that there a THOUSANDS of aliens swarming up the pyramid to get them!! unfortunately for the predators they are ridiculously outnumbered and they know it. soon 2 preds are killed leaving one battle like a true warrior, however the aliens are too many, but our predator aint going down like no bitch, so he flips up his self destruct and blows the HOLY SHIT out of all the aliens while simultaneously wiping out the age of the incas. this entire scene is set thousands of years ago and is in the film as an intro and to show what happens when the predator hunts go wrong or get out of hand. how cool is that?   ;)  

the trailer is fantastically put together, the music, the setting. i was pleasantly surprised by the look of the temple.(pyramid) i will have andersons balls if he f**ks this film up. but i do think that we could be on to a good here guys

Welcome. I'm a fan of both franchises. I'd have to be to end up posting here. :) There's no real basis in which to support my theory, but, if there is a Predalien in AVP, which I hope there will be, I can't understand why the aliens continuing need to procreate would cause them to impregnate a species that would give birth to a rebel alien that would act on its own and kill other aliens. I would have thought all chestburster/alien soldiers would be born with the instinct to kill or find hosts for the facehuggers and be loyal to one another, no matter what they where born from (Human, Dog, Predator) I doubt impregnating anything other than human would break that chain. I'm sure before the film Alien, Xenomorphs had impreganted many other species before they came across humans and the Nostromo. (Imagine what Space Jockey Aliens would've looked like.)

This isn't exactly the best place to discuss this in, maybe a forum would do.  Anyway, about that hand being a predalien or not, forget it, it's a Predator. Why? Think about it, do you really believe that an alien would have those wrist units on their arms? NO ofcourse not! And just because they came from a Predator host, it doesn't mean they will have a wristblade just like its host. And what The Real Predator said about "the combined strength of an Alien and a Predator and the high intelligence of a hunter... a threatening beast.... " That doesn't make sense. Just because _if_ my father or mother would be a bodybuilder doesn't mean I'm born with all those muscles. :P And I certantly wouldn't get the knowledge they hold withing their brains combined or anything. Perhaps the same INSTINCTS as the predator however. But not really the intelligence.. Anyway, I might be wrong - hell - we ALL might be wrong, but we shall see when the film hits the internet.. err, I mean cinema. ;)  Peace  -Rusty Nails

Good point there DimensionW.  -Rusty Nails

Apparnetly jimbobby has no imagination. Being able to dream and wonder helps creat helpful ideas that benifit us all in the future.

i agree, this is all fiction, but hey, Predators my favourite sci fi movie. and i just happen to know alot about it thats all, i dont want any awards. although my all time favourite movie is the shawshank redemption...   ;)   whats your all time fav? and what do you think of the AvP trailer? hey DimensionW, hows you? any sceal as they say in Ireland!!?! funnilly enough i am irish considering what the punk that was pretending to be me said. there is definately an Alien/Predator hybrid. the term predalien was adopted from the game.. a bit tacky isnt it? OK guys lets make this comment room slightly more interesting, lets be the ones that come up with a cool new, relatable name for the Alien/Predator hybrid!!   ;D  

i agree, we all dont adopt automatically what out parents have. but our parents werent enseminated with alien sperm the way these poor unfortunate souls have been now have they? and by going on the original movies, ie, Alien 3, the alien takes on the form of the dog its born from. and ressurection, the queen, whose surgically removed from ripley, gives birth to a mixed breed also. i also believe ripley attained some qualities of the alien queen she birthed? hence being stronger, and heralding the partial mind of the alien. so i think its fairly safe to say that both the mind and the body are shared to some degree in the hybrid.

Yep. But I suppose I prefer using the term: Predalien. I've played the game religiously for years. Never read any of the comics though. Heh heres an idea for a new alien name... How about Xenomorph? LOL. Why should we tell them apart... They're all the same species, more or less. ;) I'm from England, btw. So I'm one of the sad sacks who'll see the film later than others.

what about a "Pratorien"!? just a suggestion!! pretty whack eh! i have played the games but not as much as you would have. i know the feeling, it sucks having to wait til october 22nd to be precise!

I have always looked at it this way. The Alien embroyo (Spelling?) Is like a blank sheet of paper, what it is doing in the body of the host is actually taking shifting through the hosts DNA to come up with the best combination with it's own DNA. Other then this reason their would be no need for a host, as the embroyo does not actually eat anything while in the host or eat the host after gestation. So my theory is that without a host the embroyo would not evolve past the Worm like state of the chestburster, it needs the other DNA to acomplish that. With this added DNA you see the characteristics of the species of the Host, ie Quad or Bipeadal, Strength/Agility, Cunning/Instincts... Just my thoughts anyway.

"Paul Anderson: f**k, no! (laughter) There will be no predator babies. Predators may give birth to things, but it won't be crying babies...no.  Question: There are hints that there may be an alien/predator hybrid in the film. Can you comment on that?   Paul Anderson: Maybe. Well, yes, I mean I already said that anyway, yeah predators do give birth, but not in the ENEMY MINE sense. "  I'm pretty sure we'll see a predator / alien hybrid in the film, I mean, c'mon? They can't miss out an oppurtunity like that. :P  Hm, yeah, about the runner alien (which came from the Ox/dog) is still quite a mystery. It might be so that it was just a matter of coincidence, just like it 1/4 chance for me to get blue eyes if my parents both had blue (or something like that), I'm not sure. But I'm all for to that the alien take on different attributes of it's hosts.

Oh and about Ripley & the newborn in Alien: RE, it was because their DNA were all mixed up when they cloned her.. They said that in the movie. :)  -Rusty Nails

there will definately be an Alien/Predator hybrid in the new movie. i know that for sure!   ;)   i would be against it however if i knew it was going to look stupid. for them to pulll off a Pratorien lol   :D   than they need to make the thing 2 foot bigger than the average predator, muscley, highly intelligent so as to pose an even greater risk to all three races (human, alien and predator) and it needs to fight the main predator character but still be beaten despite its super capabilities( just to show how cool this particular predator is) but then i think it would top it off if the predator died after saving the remaining humans(or human)   ;)   from the vicious wounds that the hybrid caused. this would definately make me just want to stand up and friggn salute the predator, much like i did willian wallace after watching braveheart! lol    :D   just kidding!

I think the final fight in avp should that a face hugger gets inside a predator in the middle of the movie and then later on at the end of the movie,one of the last predators have to fight a predalien,it would be realy cool if a face hugger infects one of the predators and when it bursts out of his chest a predalien is formed that would e realy cool.

yes rusty nails... you are right, but you have to look beyond the screen my friend... where did they get the blood to make the clone? the blood was already contaminated before the cloning process because ripley was infected with the alien prior to her death.. the scientists in the moive didnt deliberately mix ripleys blood with an aliens type to form a queen... the superhuman ripley is merely the result of the cloning of her own blood... look beyond the screen my friend..   ;)  

This would make sence as the Hosts own Biology is changed by getting infected. We know that the body emites different phermones when it is infected, who knows the other changes... maybe if you could stop the whole death from chestbursts everyone invected would come out of the process sharing attributes with aliens, like ripley did.

precisely nudge, sure we have already seen the physical changes in alien 3 and in resurrection we see the that the mind is shared also when ripley feels and has visions of the queen in pain... ripley thinks like an alien in resurrection and im just saying that the Alien/predator hybrid will most likely be no exception to genetic rules. and clearly the predators are more intelligent than the aliens.

Not only are they more intelligent but they are carnivores (i think?) so they are natural hunters... this would give them a nutural hunting instinct matched with the Aliens natural cunning

If a Predator+Alien = Pred/alien or Pratorian. What would a Human+Alien be called.   ???  

they are carnivores however they dont actually eat humans, they do however eat animals. we are a good team...   ;)  

We have already seen them in Aliens, they are refered to as Drones I guess.

yeah i guess they would be drones, but the alien race is also divided, like warrior, drone, queen... i dont AS much about the aliens but i do know a bit.. tell yas what, shall we invent a new name??!?!?! lol we can be the source of the names that people will call the hybrid, and human bourne aliens!! any suggestions for the hybrid name?   ;D  

I was wondering if maybe my theory was correct. There are the drones (aliens with the smooth head) which capture people then take them back to the nest. Also they place eggs in strategic places, such as in AR when they surface after the underwater fight seen and find themselves surounded by eggs. Then there are the warriors(aliens with grids on their heads which serves as protection) who  just kill on sight and rarly takes prisoners and places eggs. Then there is the Queen who simply produces the eggs and can give orders. Next, I was thinking of something we have not seen yet. When a Queen is born in the nest with a main Queen already present it develops into a smaller version of the Queen but developes wings which can scout areas and maybe defend the nest from the air if needed. Which explains where the flying aliens come from. What do you guys think?

I dont think any one remebers this old game i used to play it was fo super neteindo i dont no the name but it was basicly a aliens vs predator game...the wierd thing about it the main character is a female predator, i just remebered this from reading about u guys fight over that one picture of the hand grabing the drone    ;D 

I found that game very amusing in the late 1992 or when ever it came out..lol  just to add in aliens have some sort of gene passed threw each alien which tells it what to do basicly...so it pass down memories from the last alien for an example Ellen riply thats how the remeber her..plus in alien 3 the face hugger was going on to Newt (the little girl) but detacted and went on to Riply... plus alien 3 is messed up a dog and oxe the should have made up there minds

I was hopeing from the begining that the movie was going to be like the comic books we read.The realy good alien vrs predator comic books was like the BIBLE of the aliens and predator,so much passion,action,adven ture,great BIG epic story,and i can tell you that the avp movie is not going to bring the epicniss and the intensity that we read in the comic books.Its going to be a good movie but NOTHING like it should have been.Aliens vrs predator story is  STAR WARS big!,and from watching the trailer it doesnt look like its going to be epic movie,it looks like its just going to be a good movie thats all.But still i cant wait to see it,its going to be a badass movie.

I hope it will be a great movie!!!!!!   ;D  

Having a hybrid creature in this movie could be bad news. Alien Resurrection is not the right script to follow, as many of the people involved in AVP have mentioned numerous times. There were reports of this "hyrbid," but nothing beyond a create marked "hyrbid" on it,  which could very well be a nice trick to throw everyone off the REAL suprise (What is it? Who knows.)  And about the female Predators being larger, meaner, blah, blah, blah -- this crap comes from one of those SD Perry novels, and the guy's daugther who helped write it is a blatant feminist. I wouldn't buy this shit UNLESS it were explained/explored in one of the movies. You can argue about canon all day, but if it comes from a novel, comic book, card game, or some other piece of merchandise, it's no better than fan-fiction.

And Vekin; a Queen Alien with wings? Please tell me you're not using those silly Kenner action figures for ideas. Even the thought of a "Predalien" in this movie is a little far fetched and cliche. If the franchise is going to keep attemping a new creature in each movie from now on, they ought to rename it Pokemon.

Hear me out. Based opon info from one of the (i cant remember which) avp novels, predator young go through a horrible ritual of getting their hair dredded up as a rite of manhood. In the origional duel comic that introduces the "predalien" its got dreds! given that alien embryos take on aspects of their hosts, yes the emmerging alien could have hair,BUT! it makes no sense to inherit dreadlocks from its host. to be accurate it should have an afro...    just think about it  ???    GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN!!!!

Well, heh. Lets stop calling it a hybrid, it will just remind people of the Ressurection newborn. (which I still liked nonetheless, its still has resemblance to Gigers work) I'm sure the Predalien will not be a copy of A:R's newborn. I'm sure Anderson saw how unconventional A:R was with its weak characters, crappy one liners and far fetched abominations on the Gigers aliens. And indeed, it isn't the right script to follow. ;) But the Predalien shouldn't be lamented by us. I would think that an alien impregnating a Predator is a natural step and evolution for the alien story and gives us something new for the alien fans, thats respectable and realistic. The newborn was an experimental result from cloning, unnatural. The Predalien IS natural. And it'll kick ass! ;)

  ;D   Man! i knew shit about Predator till my friend showed me!   ;D   This movie's gonna kick major ass! But Aliens gonna Win!

Hey Real Predator and Z, a new topic for debate for you two knowledgable guys; the Predator's cloacking device. 1)the net like mesh around the Predator is said by some to be part of his cloacking field, however I think it's a mesh to keep him warm in cold enviroments and the cloack works indipentantly bending light around the Predator, not on him. 2) Can aliens see Predators even when they're cloacked. Aliens have sences not sight (am i right in saying that?) so what will happen. Let me know what you guys think on those two matters.   ;)  

I did not suggest that this Queen with wings should be put into the AVP movie. It was simply my theory that explained why the a Queen could have wings. I could care less if they put the winged Queen into the movie or not, but most likly if a Pred gets impregnated in the AVP movie the Xenomorph is going to look different than human Xenomorphs.

In the game AVP aliens can see predators when they are cloaked so yea    8)  

You see? This is what happens when film-makers are left alone to focus on their projects. 'Lord of the Rings' was filmed in New Zealand so Script Doctors and executives couldn't interfere and tell them what the movie could and couldn

This movie is going to be what absolute is.

Olopolip i think the neting is also used for their cloaking becuz how would the y blend light? for me i thought it was just a plane net for some od reason

so what is the netting used for THE REAL PREDATOR?

we are going to talk about this movie for six long mooths if this movie is realy good,it should be the last aliens and predator movie,but since i know its not going to be that good, aliens 5 predator 3 are looking up.

Aliens r going to lose big time if u ever thought of it, becuz the predator has his visions and weapons,and his plasmacaster and all those good things that make u happy. the only reson the preds hunt the aliens is becuz they will hunt them down too.

hey guys!!! im back to answer some questions!! lol, first of all, thanks K for that, you seem really sound too!   ;)   whats more is you seem too know your stuff also!!Cody, email expect an email tonight..   ;)   and to olopolip, the predator net is not to assist his cloaking. there are many different uses for it. 1) traditional part of the predator uniform, symbolizes the purpose of the hunt(to attain trophies, NOT to kill aimlessly) 2) some predators, not all, actually use the net that is on their body to carry their trophies, only few do this. it is used for heat.... have you ever noticed the really big blotches of Black circles on the predators skin?- well in actual fact, these dark blotchy spots react with the net (mesh) and do add an extra heat. but, this mesh is not essential in the hot climates. while we're on the topic of weapons:  the wrist blades: these are duel or twin blades with serrated edges which are worn on the wrist or(wrists) of the predator. some predators wear two units on each individual wrist however, this is only found on predators either with vast experience and or the rogue predators, also known as the bad bloods.  THE Throwing Disk: this is not only an airbourne weapon, many predators use the throwing disk in clos hand to hand combat. it can cut through anything from bone, to plate steel.computer controlled gyros allow the disk, after having been thrown, to return to bearer, this weapon is only limited by the strength of its master, and to wield this weapon, you must indeed be a master. more commonly found amoug the eldars(ancients) or the honoured.  The Predator helmet: the predator helmet is not built for the purposes of protection by any stretch of the imagination, its basis is merely to give the predator the advantage if, as someone above so eloquantly put it, the shit hits the fan. combining the original films the helmet consist a range of vision modes that consist of the following.. heat, infared, ultraviolet, tech, fibres. HOWEVER! the new AvP film has created a new spectrum which allows the predator to splice ALL of these visions together with the cunning aid of a heat grading system, giving the predator the ability to see practically all it wants, at ANY given time WITHOUT have to change through the particular spectrums.  The net: this has the ability to kill while it captures. the wire like netting made from the same alloy of the wrist baldes and the throwing disk pierces the surface of is prey. it is shot from a poof like gun that has a remarkable range. many predators have these and are not particular wielded by any specific groups of the clan.  The emergency breather. this pretty much speaks for itself. if the predator is caught in a place without his mask that doesnt adhere to his/her breathing envioronment than they usually whip this bad boy out. also used if the predator is injured(not to badly) and is able to continue the hunt.  the shoulder gun. rotates according to the movement of the hunters head. the aiming device for this weapon however is located on the helmet. it shoots basketball sized fire balls, cauterizing wounds thus leaving the prey and its phsique as damaged as little as possible so the pred can come and claim his trophy.  The body armour merely for protection.  The med kit. contains injections and cirum for appropriate wounds. held most in the predators backpack.  the "peg" a "Y" shaped splintering device that is made of the same alloy of the WB, TD.  the combi-weapon this stick (staff) extends to up to 2 metres on each end and retracts to apprx one metre. devesting weapon when wielded to measurement.  and theres the low down on the predators weapons.. forgive me if i have left any out.    ;)    i dont think there should be an alien queen with wings, i agree, the kenner action figures were pretty bad alright.  i have some killer looking models though. i have drawn this HUGE predator on one of the walls in my house, it looks pretty cool. we're talking the size of the door! im an artist.-graphic design.

the throwing disk is also called the smart weapon! also correction, the bad bloods are not rogues. there are rogue predators who honour the code.

I stil dont really understand how the cloak works with the preators. I was thinking since the Predator is like a lizard it has something to do with the way they blend into suroundings.

lol lizard these are no lizards my friend they dont have a brain as big as a peanut.lol yeah it is weird they have some sort of cloaking generator on there backs im geasing thats what the packs r on there backs

The cloaking device is somewhat complicated... it is obviously activated from the wrist unit. if you really think about it, the predator is always there, he never disappears, so. its just a question of how hes rendered invisible. and heres the answer: there are sensors in both the predators wrist units, his helmet and his shoulder weapon. when the cloak is activated, these sensors blink and react to oneanother. what happens is, the sensors harness the surrounding light and split them into millions of spectrums. the lighting that the predator is in then identifies one of these spectrums and bursts it into its own light. spilling the most dominent spectrum over the predators body. eg: if a predator is standing beside a fountain on a sunny day. the sensors will A)recognise the dominant light, which is the sunlight and b) will go to the next source of light reflection, ie the fountain (because the water glistens). the sensors then mix these two forms and spill it out over the predators body. its hard to explain. if no-one understands ill try and explain more clearly...

i keep reading these friggn comments coz there so damn interesting and i keep finding more questions to answer!!! lol    :)    Aliens can without a shadow of a doubt track down predators just as easily as they can humans, regardless if the predator is cloaked. the alien sense is based on pharamones, this is how they identify both eachother and their unfortunate victims... ill be back tommorrow to keep answering some questions!    ;)   im sure theres a forum we could all go too only this particular comment site isnt very suitable ya know??? ill have a browse around and see if theres an easily accessible forum that we can chat in and ill post it here tomorrow or the next day.. but the weekend is upon us and i can smell my pint of budweiser!! lol, catch you all tomorrow!   ;) 

I always thought that it was more of a magnetic thing... photons hitting the pred are sent in an orbit and spat out the other side. which would explain the bluring at the sides and when moving.

I hv a question.....in the movie predator 2, at the last part when the guy enters the ship he sees some skeletons(or should i say skulls) in a room.....and 1 of it looked like an alien skeleton...is it really a alien skeleton........if it is, y is it there???

that is indeed an alien skull and that is where the long awaited grudgematch began...

  8)     8)    5 Predators,  millions of Aliens .Thats a whole lotta trophies for the Predators   8)     8)  .kill em all i hate the aliens

do you know since this is a aliens verus predator movie if ther is one scene that is stupid,even if a acter says a line that he or she did not act well in,the whole movie will be stupid. people dont understand or are to afraid to talk about is that,since this is the avp movie there can not be any!!!!! mistakes,one mistake that they did or didnt do, im sorry, THE WHOLE things WILL BE F**kED UP!,and im sorry for swearing,thats my last swear in my comments,lol.Theres so MUCH at stake people dont undertake,this movie could change everything for better or for worse my god i cant wait to see this movie.

No offense but onece again the real predator is wrong Again! first about how the preds see the aliens and now this! the throwing disc is not restricted to elders or masters as the Yautja in Predator 2 was a young predator who was considered Reckless!

Arrgh!!!!!! ive waited 6 yrs for this movie, since i started reading those awesome comics and the pc game Avp: primal hunt!   ;D  

He actually said that the Disk was just more common amoung the elders and honoured. It would stand to reason that a young predator who was out to show off would use the weapons that were the hardest to use and therefore gain the most honour.

Vasques J ur going to have to wait a while, august2004, and i dont think its a predalien it looks like a pred missing the part of the mask where his mouth is.

hey there i have a question 4 the REAL PREDATOR is it true that there is a dead pilot in the Alien ship in the 1st alien, is the dead pilot a Predator????

Come on, AvP Fan, do you really believe the pilot is a Predator. The Predator wasn\'t even thought up until a decade after the Alien film.

About the Cloaking Device Question - It's one of the Predator's MAIN tool, yet... it is still to be perfected. As you recall, in Predator 1, when he comes out from under the waterfall, he seems to be having some 'cloaking' problems, due to the water... To put it simply, the Predator doesn't actually have a way to become 'invisible', but rather has, what you could call, a 'High-tech Camouflage'. The difference is in the fact that, he is practically impossible to see when he is NOT moving.  About the Helmet Question - I know some people think it doesn't have many uses aside from protection, air supply and different visions, but for as long as I've known that they've been in 'contact' with the aliens, I've thought that it was also an incredible way to protect themselves against face-huggers. Also, he doesn't need his helmet to be 'invisible', his device is on his wrist!  Concerning the dead predator pilot - First of all... it's NOT A PREDATOR! Heck, it doesn't even look like one... it's a humanoid space Jokey. I heard somewhere that they were once 'against' humans, but at one point they decided to make some kind of truce with them, to stop the war ( Note that this isn't information that's COMPLETELY reliable, as I found it on a site... but a good one ).  Question 1: When we first see all the eggs in Alien 1, where the heck is the Queen?!? That would emply that the Jokey had probably stole the eggs without really knowing what they were... Then again, when they find the eggs, there's a kind of 'spectral light shield' above the eggs that seems to put them in a 'hibernation state', as they didn't hatch before someone passed through that 'shield'.  Question 2: In Alien 2, when they return to the planet, the alien spaceship where they first found the eggs doesn't seem to be there anymore... where is it then? The people that have been inhabiting the planet for the last 20 years don't even have any idea what or where it is... ( according to Burke ) So, I believe that it's a conspiracy made by the Corporates and that they took the eggs from the alien spaceship in the first movie and while disposing of the ship they kept the eggs and probably did experiments with them and as usual... everything went wrong.  So, was the Queen in Alien 2 the one that made the 'original eggs' in Alien 1, is there another Queen somewhere or were the original eggs stolen by the Jokeys and eventually, a Queen emerged.  Just for the heck of it - In Predator 1, the predator is a 'Warrior', but I'm not sure if he's old or not ( as his 'hair' isn't white ). But, I think his trip was a 'one-way thing', if you know what I mean... he wasn't supposed to come back home. He was there to hunt 'til he died... as he was launched to earth into a small shuttle that doesn't look like the SHIP in Predator 2 ( it doesn't look like it can come and go from earth to space ). In Dark Horse comics, the ship is the same and it can launch 2 different types of vessels: the big pods that can hold about 15 preds and the smaller ones that are used to send thinks like eggs on planets, which are not ment to 'come back', so I think that that's the kind of pod that the pred in the first movie is using ( that's why I think he was supposed to stay there 'til he died )  As for the second pred, he seems to be a 'Blooded' as we know he has previously encountered aliens and such... and he's in a group, which leads me to believe he's still not 'really' experienced ( young ) and also, he seems to rely a lot more on his gadgets than the one in the first movie ( not as much actual 'battlefield' experience ).  BTW, if you have any question that you want to ask me directly, e-mail me at bardenden@yahoo.ca  Long live Z and k!

  ;D   I love the trailer I can not wait for this big movie event AVP rocks!!!!

HELLO!! IM SOOOOO SH!T SCARED OF PREDATOR MOVIES AND ALIEN MOVIES DAT I SH!T MA SELF EVERYTIME I C EITHER PREDATOR OR ALIEN!! LOL I AM DEFINATLY NNOT LOOKING FORWARD TO AVP PREDATOR 3 WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN CONFIRMED!! P.S I HAVNT SEEN PREDATOR 2 COZ IM TOOOOO SCARED!!!   ???  

Hey in the movie predator 2 y didnt the predator kill the man after he killed his teammate....+ y did the lead predator give him a gun instead of killing him???? answer me Z or REAL PREDATOR

my heart goes out to the suffering families, the loss of a family member under such unjust circumstances is inexpilcable. my deepest sympathies and prayers to all who have died and to those who were horrifically injured... i saw the passion of the christ tonight, and i have to say it was the hardest thing ive ever had to watch. it was EXTREMELY violent and moving, particular scenes involving jesus being lashed and beaten for over a half hour non stop and the long painful walk carrying the cross to the hill, were without a shadow of a doubt the most powerful and emotionally strucken scenes ive EVER witnessed on film. people were crying and i myself shed a tear. a must see.. but i strongly advise anyone who has a weak stomach not to go. firstly, i never said the smart weapon is restricted to the eldars (ancients) or honoured, i merely said that they are more commonly found amoug this part of the clan: it takes EXTREME skill to wield the smart weapon, and although the predator in predator2 was not particularly "experienced" he was in actual fact older than than the predator in the predator1...   2) the reason danny glover was not killed by any of the other predators at the end of predator 2 was because the predators follow a strict code of honour. when Harrigan beat the predator, he was deemed worthy and so rewarded with the gun that dated back to 1715, (i think thats the date, i could be wrong,its been a while since ive seen pred2, i dont particularly like the film).. 3) Z is rite, this is NOT a dead PREDATOR in the alien film.-a space jockey would also be my guess. 4) the predator does not need the helmet to cloak himself. the sensors are not only in the predators helmet. Also, PVTHUDSON, how was i wrong about how the preds see the aliens? my theories on the predators vision are based on the facts. however, there are no facts available as to how a predator sees an alien. i merely made an educated guess, if you re-read my comment above i say "I SHOULD IMAGINE an alien would appear as a grey figure" i never state that this is the case. if im wrong than please, enlighten me, for you have not yet given your theory, or FACT as i am apparantly wrong?????   HEY Z AND K! how are you guys doing?!?! any news for me?? i have Z's email and i will use it, but K could you post yours, if you dont want to then could you get mine off Z when i email him(or her) - no offense!! lol   ;)  

i never thought of that actually Z, the helmet as a protection from facehuggers. nice one!   ;)   definately seems quality!!

There is already a trailer on the avp movie website at www.avp-movie.com   :-\  

bAHAHAHAHAHA @ Alien take me down with 1 hit K yr dreaming pal im the ultimate alien exterminator,theyre nuthin but oversized vermine    8)     8)  

I don't know what you guys mean by a space jockey, but after just seeing the movie again, the skeleton is clearly not Human and belongs to a fourth species. Though the skeleton is bipedal the bone structure is different, I noticed it most around the Skull. It is also much bigger then humans.

I think Anderson is doing a good job, and judging by the short featurette he's a big fan! the second trailer is amazing and im in hype overdrive! i hope the alien kicks the predators inferior ass!!!   ;D  

HI guys, Interesting reading all this stuff. Im a huge predator fan, i have one tattooed on my right thigh. My dad has an predator and alien on his back to lol. I was just lookin through my predator 2 stuff, info playing cards, modles i have and on every thing i have the predator in predator 2 is always named as young tusk.

sorry its http://www.planetavp.com/al/Memorabilia/Games/ccgap.htm (http://www.planetavp.com/al/Memorabilia/Games/ccgap.htm)  the last card at the bottom right of the page

hey inkedpred, the cards you have unfortunately are not a source for information. they are distributed by fox but were thrown together rapidly and do not adhere to either alien or predator fact based information. this was foxs last minute bid to keep the AvP franchise going...

Holy god... I have just pissed my self!    ???   I cannot wait for this movie. I could not get a hold of myself.   ???   This movie is going to be the best fu***ng movie in the hole Fu**king world.

not using them for info, just that every thing i have, modles i have made, brought, even movie stuff from shows i have brought around the country says the pred in the 2nd film is called young tusk, thats all.I have the actual predator 2 kit with ship and pred  again hes called young tusk and this is the actual fox kit.I think the film in the trailer looks interesting. I dont really like where it is being based tho in a cold climate but i guess it should work as they did cold war didnt they.The way the predators sight is being put together sounds real cool, at the end of the 1st film when he takes his mask off i could never work out why he couldnt see dutch when it flips to what the predator sees. You can see arnie but hes not giving off heat, u can see him move like when in the 2nd after he switchs vision modes he gets up close and can see the suits moving.Duth isnt cover by nething ie mud as you can see him move but hes giving off no heat, its always bugged me but guess it was a mistake by the production crew. Seeing an interview on superhero hype John Bruno talks about the queen!!! check this little bit out  Is there anything effects-wise that you're using for the first time?  Nothing. The things that have happened over the past five or six years, there's better tracking software, there's better articulation in the full-size Queen. I think the full -size Queen has 50 percent more points of articulation then the "Jurassic Park" T-Rex. It really works good and its very movement oriented. You can get it into almost any position you want. The same thing with the hydraulic Alien warrior. And heres a piece on the cloaking, and vision

What has been your biggest challenge on the film?  Well, coming up with the Predator cloaking

oh i dont disagree that the predator in the second film is referred to as "young tusk" however, he is older than the the predator in the first film. and this is not his actuall name, it is just a culmination of the years of him being called such. it is pretty cool though eh? i dont like predator 2, i think the movie really downplayed the first and besides the predator is a wimp. he uses his weapons far two much. he has no honour. this could be due to a couple of hypothetical arguments 1) the predator in the 2nd film is actually much older than we know and has seen much battle and no longer feels the need to prove his worth as a tried and tested warrior. 2) the chump just has no honour and is a young predator just trying to claim trophies by any means necessary. (this one is a strong indication to be partially true if anything because there was more than one predator in the city, thus multiplying competition amoung the predators to gain the most respect from this particular hunt)  anyone any other theories?  lets try and gain a picture of what people on this site would like the Alien/Predator hybrid or the "Pretorian" lol to look like   ;)     ;)    SO THERE the new topic of conversation is what we would like to see in the ALIEN/PREDATOR HYBRID... begin... lol   ;D  

I think they went over the top with the weapons to.The spear is good tho i like that as its a weapon that been used even by primative ppl.Even tho the predators are more advanced than us they try to fight with basic stuff, u know handheld stuff, spear, daggers which are like the wrist blades.The disc was just to show off what sort of stuff the preds had i think, they tryed to top the 1st by giving the pred to many things, even gun on the arm was to much i thought tho the shoulder cannon is still ace! Then the netgun to, they just tryed to an action movie the cammando loads of guns bigass weapons! As for the predalien, i have seen many pictures and they always have the d-locks liek predators, but isnt have the dreads put in part of the manhood thing? So if they put them on the one in the film (if there is one) then thats gotta be wrong right? We all know the alien takes the form of its host, ie humans its built like us more and the runner alien in the 3rd is on all four alot more. But never does the alien really look like its hosts. Drawings ive seen always give the predalien the more up right stance, the predators jaws, is larger than a drone bigger built to and has the dread locks. to me its wrong to do it this way. its like say when the 3rd alien comes out of the dog it should have ears, or a muzzle. You get the point im making, it will be a different version of a alien, not something along the lines of a pred and alien being pushed into a blender. it would be bigger, stronger and maybe more intelligent but not have the jaws-dreadlock.

  ;D  WOW What an exciting time.This has been long awaited for.This will be a showdown to remember!.But what about the space jockey and its race?.Do we always have to imagine and fantasize its role in this epic saga? or will we someday get the treat of every thing we want and need to know about this particular      alien and its role in upcoming pictures.maybe "alien 5or6".Who really knows,maybe we will just have to always contemplate its existance in the background.

lolol,look at us look how much we have toalked about this movie,face it people we are not going to come up with any answers we are going, like i said,going to have to wait the loooooooooooonnnnnggggg harrddddddd waittttttt to see this  F__King movie.I dont know about you guys but i cant wait any longer to see this movie,just wait unit the next trailer comes along,forget it im going to go crazy people are going to go crazy.Look at us now we saw about a minute  of a trailer and WE ARE ALREADY GOING CRAZY,i hear people,but 6 months is too long for me to wait.

The space jockey is clearly an alien race seperated from all other known species.Its role is to show how by a way of clumbsyness,it too handled the aliens in a dangerous manner.as for its legacy one can only imagine.for now we will just get to see 2 alien races and the human race battle it out.hopefully not in a cheesy way.avpvh not avpvhvj

No doubt that we all have been waiting long and painfully for this!, but answers need to be addressed and everybody knows that there will be more questions raised once we get to see the movie,so in the meantime we will just all have to squirm.     ???  

I'm going soooo completly mad and crazy that my chest is about to burst!!! I just can't wait no more!!!!!!!!

I have a question about the story line. We know all about the 1000 year rituals and the 5 teenage predators being took to the pyramids. Hers my question. As we can see in the trailer there are eggs in a chamber. For there to be aliens they need source a of life to harvest but the film is set inside a pyramid thus meaning they are locked inside to go thru the  rituals.So where does the life spurce for the aliens to harvest come from? We know a team finds the pyramids thus meaning life to harvest, but the predators dont know these people are going to be there right? So where does the hosts for teh eggs come from? DO preds take ther own animals for the eggs, do they take humans they have caught? Ne ideas??!!

Yo real predator, i am another fan of this movie as well and i think it is nice to of you to share this information about the movie with us. I assume it is the truth of what your details you know about the movie are. So you have an inside source?? So it is true they have pushed back the date on the movie, cause i keep checking the website of the movie and it still says "august 2004". If you anything please let me know, otherwise, no big deal man. Thanx!   ;D  

LOL,i was thinking, could you guys imagine when we see the next trailer that the avp movie is not rated R its PG13.I will kill paul anderson if he makes avp film  PG13 ,because that would mean that he already off the bat F__Ked it all up.DO you agree? i will slap! you if you dont.

as far as I know the predators harvested humans "aztec" like indians and brought them as slaves and incubaters for the hive and also they shock the queen to produce more eggs

hey guys, yea abdul my sources are concrete and my information is as correct as i hope it to be!! lol    ;)   yeah the release date has been pushed back to the 13th of august.  the predator tendrills are a hot topic to debate. some think that the predators attain the tendrills through a rite of passage. others say they are merely born with them.   i personally wouldnt like to see tendrills on a hybrid. it would be to cliche if ya ask me.  i would like to see a 9 ft hybrid, with a crown like skull resembling the queen. and i would love to see a hybrid and lead predator 5 min battle at the end with moves weve not yet seen. ive always envisioned predators fighting like samurais. the whole predator concept is based on japenese warriors and i would love nothing more to see a predator wield his staff like a martial artist. especially in the scene where the thousands of aliens are bombarding the 3 last standing  predators aloft the pyramid. i cant wait for this movie, ive been waiting to long.

Thanx real predator   8)  

The movie's gonna be great!!!   ;D   I can't wait to see this! By the way, Predator RULEZZZ!!!

HAy facehugger, i kinda guees that to but this movie is set in antartica!!!! Almost no human life!!! guess they must take humans they have caught with them, if anderson says there are aliens still alive then thats b-s as the alien life cycle is fast thats why they are so hellbent on reproducing and no way can they live a 1000 until more preds come. i hope hes realised this.

Well the screenshots are brilliant, but the Aliens look identical to the Aliens out of Alien Ressurection and they sucked big time! why couldn't they make the Aliens look more like the Alien from the first movie!? that would of been alot better.  But hey! i still can't wait to see Aliens vs Predator!

Whow! Can't wait until August!

antartica yes,but according to anderson the predators have been hunting on earth every thousand years. also the ancient people of earth according to anderson look to the predators as gods.   ;D  

I have seen 10 mintues of the movie in different parts it looks real mad the three predator look different the frist who's walk down stair look like the predator from the movies the other two are in the trailer ones has a mask that look like it's face and the other one mask you see look at the alien there a bit on the predator the on the other hand the aliens all look different some from the movies and one or two types that have not been seen before ones like a qreen but small and the other one witch seen that the end battling with a predator look like a predalien I'am real if it is but that what it look like    >:D  

rite, in pred 1 the pred had a shoulder cannon, blades all the bog standard stuff yeah, in pred 2 the pred had net gun, a spear thingie, the cutting object carigan prives from dannys hand, the disc.. i think that as the predators are a hunting race, that they try to perfect all weapons and improve others. as the pred 2 was set 10 years after the 1st many other weapons could have been created for hunts, i dont think how blooded and experienced you are has anything to do with weapon choice. predators can only hunt on their own when they have gone from yautua (no battle experience) to blooded warrior (at least 1 succesful hunt with a few kills), the preds in the movie as they are alone means that they are blooded and can fight on there own.

i have a different take on end fight. if you watch the trailer in slow-mo, i was under the impression that the Pred was racing to save the humans from an alien. the next few seconds show the uncloaked Pred sprinting full-tilt towards the humans (and they always seem to prefer to attack from a position of advantage, not a football-style tackle). it looks to me like the Pred tackled the alien somewhere just offscreen or else cut from the trailer. they roll around on the floor in the next few shots, the alien gets the pred on his back, and the pred jams his thumb claw into the aliens throat, judging by the blood and painfully flailing tail.

i also noticed a little spaceship (or two?) at the end of the trailer where it says "On Earth Summer".  and Porter, please tell us more!!

YodasEvilTwin: The 2 ships you see at the beginning of Predator 1 are actually this: - 1 big predator ship - 1 pod ( where the predator is in )  The big ship launched the pod on earth... each ship contains about 4 pods that can transport either eggs or 1 person ( like the pred ) and it also has 2 bigger pods that can transport about 15 preds.  Here's some info I found on the different predator ships:  NER'UDA (STANDARD SUTTLE) The Standard Yautja Shuttle is a small, dropship-craft designed for a quick, atmospheric interception and insertion of a single hunter looking for honor. They are short-range craft and cannot travel outside of the system they are dropped in. Shuttles drop almost exactly like Marine dropships with the exception that Shuttles offer very little in atmospheric maneuverability. They have no visible power source. The vehicle drops into the atmosphere and does not even begin breaking thrusters until 2000 feet above sea level. Predator drops occur twice as fast as Marine drops.  The Shuttles are also significantly smaller. They hold air and food for one Hunter with extra capacity for a comfortable number of trophies. The shuttle, after a completed mission, launches out of the atmosphere in less than two minutes. Other than that, the shuttle is not much use. The ship is very clunky with few armaments. It lands and can then bury itself in the ground or launch into orbit, invisible to sensors, awaiting the order to self-destruct or retrieve its hopeful successful hunter.  NOTE: The Shuttle is that small craft that broke away from the larger vessel at the beginning of the first Predator film.  MAN'DACA (STANDARD CASTE VESSEL) The Hunter Families move around the systems usually in these ships of varying size and design. It is rumored that each group customs their own craft. Over generations, the ships become more distinct from the original format.  The Standard vessel is what the hunters usually employ but they do not often land in hunting zones unless larger groups leave. Members from all castes live inside the craft. Lower decks for lower castes are damp, humid, and unkempt. Fires are used for cooking and hunters sleep on floor. Upper castes have their own quarters and get the best food. Fights rage between the castes in an attempt to move up the ranks. Those who have earned it rise. The most honored command the vessels to their new hunt. If they do not find one, they can also start one.  These vessels are equipped with shuttlecraft to drop Predators in a hunt but they also have a dozen egg-droppers. These drones can travel up to a half a light year to enter an atmosphere of a planet. There, they search out well-populated areas and then soft land and wait for curious investigators. The drones then blossom to reveal from 6- 12 eggs, ready to strike. The eggs are kept in isolation and cannot open accidentally unless removed from the pod. The aliens can then spread and start their own hives. The droppers follow the progression of the infestation. When a large enough infestation occurs, the dropper transmits a homing beacon to its mothership, alerting of the sprouting hive. The vessel can now arrive for the hunt. The vessels themselves sometimes contain chained alien queens as a source of their eggs.  Standard vessels have an effective unlimited range but must stop and charge its engines for one week after its range is used up. It is unsure how long these vessels travel between service checks or even if they require service checks at all. All evidence points that these vessels maintain themselves somehow. Even the variety of weapons seems maintenance free.  The bottom decks are slums. Upper decks are command and upper castes. The mid-decks form the core of operations. Fights rage, trophies are displayed. Weapons are fashioned. Whole communities rise and fall in the decks of a Hunter Vessel.  JAG'D'JA ATOLL (STANDARD MOTHERSHIP) The monstrous Hunter motherships are mobile bases rumored to exist but which no human has ever seen. They are totally independent craft where a variety of smaller vessels can dock, move around, interact, and fight. These ships hardly ever move into direct fighting with any other force, but is rather used a mobile town where Hunters can dock with and gloat about their trophies.  Like the other craft, they are invisible to all sensors, making it virtually impossible to find in the expanse of space unless you fly another Hunter vessel. These vessels all have beacons to locate a nearby Atoll. It is rumored that handfuls of these bases are even located in Terran space but outside normal spacelanes. Like Man'Dacas, the Atolls have slums and upper castes separated between decks, there is just a lot more of them. Here, warriors can seek out mates, fight for honor, and acquire new devices and weapons.  Atolls do not often move but often drift when they need to between systems. They hardly ever enter systems on fear of being located. They never initiate hunts. They let the smaller vessels do that. Atolls only contain a handful of their own craft and operating crew but most that wander through the systems can have up to 500 people moving in and out at any time. Some have several of the homeless dishonored with no place to go. They wait until the moment they can gain the strength to return to the hunt or they wait for their death.  Atolls do not often have Egg-Drones but do usually have live queens on board to distribute the eggs to whoever needs them. Although sometimes-smaller vessels fight among themselves, no honor can be achieved from attacking an Atoll.  Long live Z and k!

hey thanks Z, thats good stuff you know. alot of my info is based on the comics (speaking of which i should have most of the AvP series in a few days if anyone wants something looked up). ive only ever seen the Predator movies on tv, but i hope to have both dvds within the next two weeks or so. your description of the ships reminds me, whatever happened to the ship in the first movie after the pred nuked himself? did it have a linked self-destruct or what?

looks funky bet its crap though

I hope the Preds will be ripped into pieces by the aliens!!!!!  Alien Rules!!!

Down with the ugly Preds! I hope they`ll soon take care of Alien5.

I have a comic of avp(dark horse),but I don´t know the number. It shows the same spaceship as appears in pred1, but I think spaceship on pred2 is the same as the game avp2, isn´t it?? from what I saw on the comic...different clans lives together in the same ship, and they have various "reserves" they send the eggs, wait for the infestation, and then....preds fight, no weapons, but more like a boxing match, for the reserves, that´s what happens in my comic, I would like to have more but... besides, in this comic pred society adopt a human woman who has got a clan mark on his forehead fighting side to side with a pred against aliens..and it looks like they don´t want the infestation to go further than drones...all eggs with a queen facehugger are destroyed in the ship, where they have a chained queen for populating their reservers.

This is a f**king Great Site!!! i like the Preds but i like the Aliens much more. So i hope the Preds will be all killed by the Aliens in the End of the Movie............

Hi all. You might call me crazy but I DONT LIKE THAT PLOT!!! its because this is killing the mythos of the Alien. All what i hear about the AvP stuff is how cool the pred is, how strong the pred is, the pred is resistant of alien blood, thousands of Aliens killed by only three Preds on a Pyramid !?! This is so stupid and i must say that the Alien original was a perfect Organism a biomechanical Creature. What the Hell is happening now??? Its all good for the Pred and the Aliens are only Cannonfodder. I say that STINKS!!! This is for little Kids but not for real Fans.

i cant understand why there are 5 teenage preds ( yautja ) with no blooded warriors, it puzzles me as the blooded, are not there to supervise. blooded supervise the yautja until the fight is over, those that do not fall in battle are given there own personal mark. the blooded give the now-blooded warriors the mark and then wait for a new class to teach. the question still stands tho, where are the blooded warriors?       ???      ???  

This is gonna to be the greatest fight ever!Z is right, that movie will kick all our asses!!!    ;)  

Igor - thats the original AvP comic series from 1989 or 1990 that youre talking about (5 issues #0-4). preds seeded a desert planet with aliens, the leader Broken Tusk intentionally placed a queen egg there (they were normally filtered out) and the hive got out of control. Broken Tusk forced his younger preds to stop killing humans and team up for their combined good, and Broken Tusk and a woman named Nagochi fought the queer, wrecked the hive, and Broken Tusk "knighted" Nagochi before he died. later, another pred ship came to investigate, and Nagochi saved one pred from an alien ambush, and was admitted into the pred tribe.  i dont know where you can get the comics for free, but sometimes you can get em cheap off ebay. thats what i did. i dont have a scanner but ill answer any questions i can about the comics.  Darkness previously posted a link to a free online fan-written AvP comic on page 2 of the news, this should be the correct site: http://www.rivalcomics.com/ (http://www.rivalcomics.com/) (its called AvP: Dissolution)

oh yeah, Igor, that brawl between preds on the ship seemed to me to be a battle for supremacy. a younger pred from one clan (look at the burn-tattoos between their eyes for clans?) attacked Broken Tusk, and got messed up for it. im pretty sure that power-hungry pred is the one on the desert planet with the hand-held plasma-blaster rifle, and he seems to be the 2nd most skilled after Broken Tusk.  and "queer" in my previous post was supposed to be "queen", lol

Z, my deepest apologies, my comments arent clear. i never meant to imply that that eldars rely on their weapons at all. i merely wanted to say that the reason the smart weapon in commonly found amoung the eldars is because they possess the ability to wield them more effectively. it takes great skill to wield it and i merely wanted to imply that not many, but some skilled youngbloods would be able to wield the throwing disk. i did not mean to come across at all that the eldars kill from afar, for i whole heartidly agree that they would rely more on their own capabilities and the "old style". im sorry if i came across like that. also i forgot to add, the new throwing disk in AvP does not actually return to the bearer. its more like a chinese death star thingamajigy. so i should imagine it doesnt take a much skill to wield it as the original smart weapon...  it has just been my opinion and anyone iv spoken to that pred in pred2 was older. i guess it is awfully naive of me to think that just because the people in know think it also, means its true, and for that i apologise. but in all fairness, a great deal of our personal opinions do come into these comments, whether or not the facts are concrete or not ya know? i do try to speak from the facts that i know as much as i can without having my opinion invade upon them too much!! lol   ;)   but for that i do sincerely apologise. the reason i apologise is because i know you are indeed one who knows his facts and i appreciate that..   ;)    NOW that iv hopefully cleared that up.  PVT HUDSON...   you say that i dont take my theories from the films but i take them from the "nerds who created the games and comics".... yet, WHERE in all SIX movies combined does it say that predators can see aliens becasue of the bio electrical discharge  from the acidic blood? i presume that when you say im "wrong for not taking from the films" that you yourself DO take from them????   Z can you back me up here? am i rite in saying, that all hypothetical theories and educated guesses aside, we dont ACTUALLY know the facts in regard to how predators can see aliens??? so that being the case, how is it that i am so wrong for merely casting my personal opinion. which i might say that if you read my commment again, i never say, and i do this purposefully that my theory about how the aliens are seen by the predators, is the ACTUAL CORRECT FACT. yet you Pvt Hudson are so intent that i am wrong when the true facts are not yet known... so having said that, where do you get  YOUR facts? do you get them from the "nerds who created the games and comics" because you certainly arent getting your facts from the films that you suggested I should take from.... it seems you have dug yourself into a large hole my friend.... i rest my case...

I think that any body who gets the facts from comics and video games,are totally confussed with the real vision the rest of us share   ???  

i completely agree with you george. thats the point im trying to make to Pvt Hudson... HOWEVER, the conversations that Z and i are having is in total regard to an expansive knowledge that would not hereby be attained by the simple watching of the films.

  ;D  I agree with george. as far as alien goes, the o'l man himself dan obannon is the master mind. mabe he read comics at one time,but shorly He left the table wide open for every outlet to explore,but I would like to think that he did not intend for his origonal idea to be exploited with a lot of inconsistant storylines that could end up confusing us about the alien legacy, even thou his origonal story ended up being chopped up on the cutting board when it finally made it to the screen.not to say that comics and video games are a bad genre for the fantasy,but to say that they have a place in their own right and it is up to us fans to decide whether we want to seperate the comics ie video games from the films. which most of us want to anyway, and we rather choose to stick with just the director and film views because we hold them accountable for our die hard loyalty.    ;D  

  ???   If I see any more pictures I'm gonna die because I cant wait..    ???  

In A Recent interview (as well as the AVP games) Paul anderson said thats how the preds see the aliens! Thanks!

THE REAL PREDATOR: You're ABSOLUTELY right when you say that we don't ACTUALLY KNOW FOR SURE how the predators are going to be able to see the aliens in the movie, as they never mentionned it...  We all know that, in the game ( on the PC ), the preds have a 'special' vision made specificly to see the aliens, but that's not actually accurate, even though it was made by Fox, as it is MAINLY for game balance, because otherwize, combat would be quite difficult ( depending on how it ACTUALLY works )  Also, in the 3rd Alien vs Predator comic book from Dark Horse, we see Broken Tusk, after he has just put on his armor suit, as he's going outside, we see through his vision and we see that he can only spot the preds and as he changes vision he can now see the preds AND the aliens... So, it's a little bit confusing. We know that the comics are not always 100% accurate as they are sometimes based on the writters/artists' point of view and less based on the actual movies and such... which doesn't make it WRONG, just 'uncertain'.  There's also the fact that P. Anderson is in charge of the movie, so he's the one that has the 'final word' on what's going to happen about this particular question... What would happen if the pred lost his mask during battle? He simply wouldn't be able to see the aliens anymore? Unless, like I've mentionned before, maybe they could throw some kind of small 'bomb' that would release some kind of liquid/gaz that would stick to the people nearby ( aliens, humans, etc ) and through a specific vision, they could see the stains left by the bomb... which would allow them to see them move, etc.  Then again, Paul probably thought this problem through and I'm almost sure he found something... So, either the preds are going to be able to see them even without their mask, or with a nother spectral vision OR they might use some type of gadget, like mentionned before...  To PVT HUDSON: You keep bashing THE REAL PRED about the fact that he doesn't take all his info from the movies ( like they are the only TRUE source of info about preds ). Although it is true that they are a really good source, the comics can also be reliable to a certain degree, as they can help to create new and interesting ideas that might be used later on... the 'Predator Universe' spans farther away than simply the movies...  BTW, I saw in another thread that someone thought that the pred with the wierd mask at the end of P2 was THE SAME ONE as the one in AvP... but that's not true! I have a pic of the actor that plays that pred in his custome ( like a backstage pic ) and the mask IS DIFFERENT. Plus, at the end of P2, that particular pred has a Naginata and that's only for the really, really skilled preds... it's a lot of honor and as we all know, the preds in AvP are only teenagers.  Long live Z and k!

HAY YU GUYS GUESS WHAT IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE DETAIL OF THE ALIEN ADI USED THE ALIEN RESURRECTION ALIEN DESIGN IN THIS MOVIE

PREDATOR this is may favorite creture, this is my favorite movie, his is the movie of all times yeahhh WHAN'T SOME CANDY

I think that the predators are in for it.I have seen a behind the scenes trailer,and anderson shows us a pullback of first-3 predators taking on a few aliens,and then as the camera pulls back,hundreds then thousounds of aliens are closing in on doomed trio.anybody else see this too?

I have seen this too, but I dont think that the predators are really in for it.not all of them at least,remember there is 5 teenagers doing the ritual hunt thing.not to mention the predators that brought them,so remember just because you saw thousands of aliens,does not mean that there is only 5 predators.

OK here is my main question.What came first,The queen or the egg?If the queen produces eggs and the face huggers produce the aliens and queens,what then started this cycle?and also, does the queen need to be furtilized to produce the eggs? maybe a king or something like a mate?anybody got any ideas?

And remember the predators have a last resort against that many aliens. Their self-destruct device on their arms should take out a decent amount of the aliens(of course they would kill themselves aswell....but thats besides the point.   ???  

  ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D  this is gonna be da most kick ass movie of all time!!!!!!!! I hope theres gonna be apred alien. The preds are gonna KICK ASS!!

Thats the whole point I was trying to make about the spacejockey may they bio engineared the aliens to be "a- sexual" self producing organisms.

How did the aliens get into the tempel??? did the predators send them there so they can have there maturing game??? i dont get it...    >:D  

Yea, the predators brought them there,and supposedly a long time ago.

thats what I heard too.

Does anone else think that in the close up of weyland with the net in the background, that its actually the pred-alien that they've 'caught'? look at the top of the net and its seems to be a 'head' much like the pred-aliens from avp game

hey jr you're probobly right I noticed that too

The real question is does anybody know what star system the predators are from?

Thats right folks alien seems to be the all time classic no holds barred!

I´ll scan some draws to post them here if I can...I guess I´ll have to talk with someone.about the comic...I´m try8ng to get the second one...I think it has a strange action, as humans get in the middle of a pred hunt(as ever) and the woman have to decide what side she´s gonna fight....but I have to find it...I just can´t wait to see the movie...by does it has to be in October for us???I only hope the people who may already seen then movie don´t ruin the movie for the rest of us.... :evil:

ok im waiting in antisipation for this movie  because ITS GONNA KICK ANY OTHER MOVIES ASS!!!  OH YEA IT WIL FOR ALL U NON BELIVERS. PRED AND ALIEN WILL LIVE FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS IF THE MOVIE FAILS.BUT IT WONT

thanx Z, i really appreciate that.    ;D   as regards what star system the predators are from.... you got me.... people have always liked that they never knew exactly where the preds came from..... that they came "from the stars".... now im not certain, if there is a correct answer to this question than my faith lies in Z... however i believe many artists who have proposed to explain the origin of the predators in the dark horse line of comics have been rejected simply because it was always more scary having the species shrouded in mystery.... however, thats all i know... Z what do you think? do you know is there an actual origin or star system that the predators are from????????   8)  

  ;D   this movie is gonna kick some major ass it is gonna be better than "ALIENS"

  ;D  These screens look so mad, The new Predator mask looks awesome. I hope it's ory & does the Alien & Predaotrs movie justice    :)  

hand grenade: To answer your question, there's no 'Blooded' predators, because they have been send on what they call "The Coming of Age", which is basically how they pass from 'young Bloods' to 'Blooded'... If there were Elders or others of higher class, there would be less honor in the ritual, as they are there to prove themselves as good combatants... It's like their first 'Great Hunt'. The fact that they can only rely on their skills and their partners is part of the ritual... if there's any trouble, they have to find their own way out, they can't rely on anyone else than themselves ( think of this as in a big training excercise, like it the army ) The Elders are eventually going to come 'get them back' after a certain amount of time, but of course, they won't wait long... if they survived, they take them home, if not... they failed the test. In the world of the predators, it's like "Survival of the Fittest" or "Only the Strongest survive", they don't leave much space for any kind of mistakes and they don't like failure...  About your 'Unique Mask' theory... There's not any specific rituals after which the predators get a mask, as they can get it as soon as they start to hunt. Although I know that the ones with 'royal' blood tend to have more 'extravagant' and more high-tech mask than most others ( in order for the other preds to notice them more ), there's no particular ways to get specific masks... I think that most of them have been customized by the preds themselves and will change according to the settings/environments/needs of the preds. So, in other words, they don't get their masks through any kind of 'ritual' or by climbing the hierachic ladder of their society... as they NEED it as soon as they start to hunt and the reason behind the many types of masks is based on the preds personal choices...  Concerning where the preds come from: THE REAL PREDATOR is right... they never actually NAMED the place where the preds are from... the only thing we know is that it's from the "deepest corners of the universe". I really think it's a good idea that they try to keep their world, origins, etc. a secret, as it makes them all the more interesting... and Paul Anderson knows that and that's why he decided not to touch those subjects in the movie. It's the same thing with the aliens... if we knew everything about them... where they are from, what they think, why they do what they do, it would 'take away' the feeling of mistery you have when you see them...  the fact that they are so secretive and dark makes them a lot cooler.  **SIDENOTE** I watched the trailer again in really slow motion and I think that the guy that is 'trapped' in the net in pics 25-26 is Max Stafford ( the black guy, which I think is like a commando or something like that ) He's played by Colin Salmon, who also played in Resident Evil, etc. The thing that I think is weird is that the net doesn't really look like the pred's ( as it is made of metal-like wires ), unlike this one, which looks like regular strings... Maybe it's Paul's version of the pred's net... or it might only be the angle we see it from that makes it look different, as the guy doesn't seem to be moving much ( he kinda looks messed up :P )  Concerning the pred in pic 27: If you watch the trailer in slow motion, just before we see the girl jump over the big gap, in the very last 'glipse' of the predator/alien fight that we see, we can somewhat see the front part of the pred's mask and it looks like the bug-type mask pred ( Scar pred ) and we also see that he has a 'scratch' a.k.a. scar on his mask made by what seems to be an alien ( of course ).  So, that's for all you people that have trouble believing that the 'bug-like' pred could be the Scar pred, as maybe his name refers to THAT PARTICULAR 'scratch' made to him by the alien... So, that could emply that he could actually be the 'hero' pred of the movie... or not. The other scenes that we see of him could be from the beginning of the movie, before he actually gets his 'scar'... in one of the first pics of him, we even seem to see what looks like snow in the background, which could emply that it's when they arrive...  Long live Z and k!

I like the idea of there possibly being other preds in this movie, like some blooded who are there to oversee. I base this on the chick who has apparently been given a mark on her forehead in the shape of a crescent. This is the sought of mark the young preds would recieve at the end of the hunt. I would think it was against the codes of the young preds to be going around "blooding" other preds, let alone beings from another race. But, a pred of higher rank might award it for bravery... ie Broken Tusk.

you are right. This is for children. and by the way: the preds allways looked stupid to me, like a ugly grandmother,LOL. the Alien is a great design but the preds........pffffffffff.

well, personally what i think (typing down in my own personal hell) is that the predators are actually a race of lobsters that have evovled into a highly intelligent race of beings.  Now, think of this, what do lobsters need?  Well, now that i think about it...i really don't know!

Hey Z i appreciate what you are trying to say,but i only go on movies for reliable information for 2 reasons! over the ccourse of avp comics and games etc ideas have overlapped and contradicted themselves over and over again! and also look at star wars! Jester Merell IS Boba Fett but George lucas made Boba Fett A Clone of his Father Jango Fett! so in the end Jester Merell wasnt a protectoret or wtv he was and he was never banished from anywhere! his name boba fett wasnt a alias because according to the movie JESTER Merell never Existed! that is why I dont and nor should you, follow comics and toys and games and novles! sure its great to read them etc etc but you sould only read for entertainment purposes! i can come up for other excuses in the aliens universe as to why not to trust the comics! for example after aliens they made the comics about ripley and newt and hicks getting home etc etc and in 1992 alien 3 came out and killed them off, they never made it home or anything! and we all get our info about newt and hicks fromt he movies! nobody talks about the comics because the movies changed that etc!

Hey guys aliens are great and all the only thing that exploded into a huge thing is oh aliens are so much better then preds and they will kick the crap out of the preds and so on. the truth is both sides are cool.all it comes down to is every one has there own opinion. so me being a pred fan i would just like to say that aliens are the scarest and they are very cool. but i just like the preds more thats all... all this fighting and so on is pointless. talk about why you like alien or predator not why you hate the alien or predator...

Hey Richie you are damn right! We all should stop this bad talking. This is not what Fox have planed. The AvP-Movie is not a Pred and not a Alienflick only. It is for BOTH.

the movie looks real gd but we no theres only 1 winner and thats the PREDATORS there goin 2 kick aliens ass.does any1 no how much predators there in avp the movie?if any 1 nows or any news about the moive e-mail me at iamthedaddy36@hotmail.com   >:D  

There are 5 teenage predators in the movie. Supposedly, they're here to complete a right of passage and kill the aliens, but i dont know.

this message is for RICHIE your message was  I think the scene with the hand grabing the alien is not a pred alien. for one you clearly hear a pred yell in that scene and a pred alien woulds not attack its own kind. at least i dont think so? so i think that scene with the hand grabing the alien is directly conected to the one scene before it with the alien looking the pred in the eye. what i think happened is the pred got hurt or something and he's playing dead just like in predator 2. and when the alien gets to close he grabs it. look at the scene carfully both pictures have a back ground that looks the same the only difference is that the two scenes are shot in different angles. What do you think ?    okay the scene of the pred and alien staring each other down and the pred hand grabbing the alien are 2 different scenes and you quote the pred yell! just remember this is a trailer and its called the magic of EDITING!

I think the last three pics are from the same scene.  The alien and pred stare each other down and the pred slashes the alien in the side of the head.  The pic with the hand grabbing the alien is the alien putting it's hand over the slash-wound.  If you look at the last pic, you see what could be blood dripping down the alien's face.  Or I could be wrong and it could just be drool, but that's what seems most likely to me.   :)  

this is going to suck majorly, budget is too small and paul anderson doesnt know his ass from his elbow.  (see res evil)  because of this peice of shit (doomed to fail) we might never see a predator 3 or alien 5.  who the f**k decided to set it in present day when the aliens timeline would be so well suited for this kind of thing?  *trailer*  this summer aliens and predator are about to lose their credibility.  whoever wins..... the fans lose.

as long as i see some predator and alien action this movie will be the best of the year

Alien > Human= Drone or Warrior Alien > Dog or Ox= fourlegged Creature Alien > Predator= Predalien  Hey Butthugger that is what every Fan learn in School. The Predalien is an Alien and not a Friend of Preds ;-)

hehehe the trailer looks like every day life @home 4 me!!!   :D   :P

that was disgusting...  coz you know why...  that was so very action movie and trailler..  i love.. i wnt to see it on theather..

nice, hope it don't turn out to be crap!   8)  

  ;D    this movie is gonna rock I can hardly wait to see it the aliens are  gonna kick some pred butt  I always did wonder who would win if the 2 races met  I root for the xenos hands down  the yautja are gonna get their butts kicked their are over a million xenos & the preds are so going to be out numbred

O man this film is gonna rock the film generation woah to go!

kick ass

Damn. I cant believe i just read all of that. It took over an hour. Damn. I'm not too sure about the film, it has promise, but after the mess of Alien Resurrection I'm not so sure. I mean honestly, did anyone actually enjoy that film? It was silly and pretty dull. No suspense or tension imho. And that half alien half human thing was a disgrace. So ugly, not like the elegant creatures Geiger originally designed at all. I hope to God they dont try to make a predalien, because they would just mess it up. It would be big and ugly and very probably clumsy. cheers

man, this is going to be a great movie!!! Are there anymore pics around on the net?  Anyways, do you guys remember the first predator game, the one for nintendo?

dont think theres any more pics?if there is i think this would be the place 2 c them

you guys have been in deep deep discussion about this one.  i couldn't read all of it.  made my eyes hurt. i have been a fan since i was very very young and have a good feeling paul anderson will do his best.   a theory i have that is arguable but i'll go ahead and say it  : i don't believe the pred mask would help protect against a facehugger considering Cane's helmit didn't do much for him.  also if anyone could tell me what type of acid the aliens have for blood i want to do more research on how maybe the pred sees the alien.

To be honest i haven't read all of the above comments. As long as i get to see a facehugger grab onto a Pred face and predalien burst out from under the pred armour. Isn't Cyberdyne the same company that created the terminator and also sent the first 'alien' ship to get and alien? i was toled that Preds created aliens for sport and to become a pred Worrior they had to enter a hive with only a spear and kill the queen?

could you imagine if when you see the next trailer its rated PG13,omg if that true dont worry avp fan, i will send a hitman to distroy the invader called paul w anderson.HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE   8)     >:D     ???     ;D     ;)  

looks shit hot .... but time will tell when its released

This movie is /will be/ a horrible example of Hollywood production, aimed at no entertaining, but emptying your pockets. Putting a story from great movies into a "blockbuster" with a _low_ budget of $60 millions insults the fans, REAL fans, not guys that accidentially played the game/ watched the movies half asleep.

  ???   omg this movie looks heaps sik its gonna kick some ass it looks heaps mad

i find hard to think that paul got his idears from  the comic books,if that was true, trust me you would see it from the pictures we got above.Some of the avp comic books that came out are realy good,realy good if you see all  the details in the story and in the characters, If paul took idears from the comic books then he took it from the bad ones, like uhhh batman vrs aliens lol,ohhh god i just wish james camron dir this film like it should have been but they had to get paul who FU__Ked up mmmmmmmm let me think,resident evil maybe!,soldier maybe! 2 BIG movies that should have been more than just a good movie!but we are going to see when the next   trailer comes out,we will see little hints that the film is either good or bad,because the one we saw now,its too vague.For many people this is the movie they have been waiting for and theres is so much" open space" if you say,for many great idears/stories.There are also rules that you must obey that  i wrote earlier on,if you read it.From reading the comic books,there is so much passion in their stories.The alien story alone from reading the H.R giger book: on the design of the alien ,is alone huge and scary,so much art,so much passion with darkness.Its a big dark world of things we couldnt even imagine,and when you take that world and bring it into a predator surrounding,its more than just a war.This war from reading the books are differrent conflicts for differrent reasons coming from very great artists and if we where to see this war as just two creatures fighting each other because they come from two differrent planets,that would be very stupid and maybe since you have a blind spot that you cant see past,i can see why you would think that.I realy dont have anything against paul and his work,its just that paul takes big great stories and doesnt do a good job with them,paul should just work on smaller films,this is to big of a film to put in anyones hands people,would you take the story of star wars and give it to paul to direct it,hells know because he doesnt not know what is right and whats good for the film,i mean people, paul said in a interveiw that he thought t3 was better than matrix,i mean that says alot of when  it comes to taste,matrix is one of the most greatest films that have come out,the talent that you need to come up with the story of the matrix is talent that paul wishes to have,im not trying to be hard on him,its a tuff job to have,i was a student film maker for 4 years,i got my diploma from NEW YOK film school acd.its just he needs to  back away from big projects and work with smaller ones,who cares if you made alot of money off of resident evil,that only means that you fooled alot of people in seeing you film....ok, was your film good or not.....thats the question i want to know,and i think youll have the anwser from watching RE .AVP is to big of a story and has a history and taste of always being a good film,you dont take a legend and put it in the hands of man who never created a legendary film before you dont do that!!!!!!!,rules people, there are rules to obey,and sometimes brake, you have to have the talent of knowing which one to follow or brake.But....but,but,but, since he has alot of pressure from FOX!,and joel silver! maybe this time he will be forced to do a good job.But because there is always a but,if he doesnt do a job with the film,sorry but i will still be the bastard son that paul wished he never had.     8)  

waht bothers me is that Predator 3, and Alien 5 not to mention Alien vs Predator 2 all ride on the success of this film. i would love to see a predator 3. but i think that it may be best to leave predator with us still wondering, let our imaginations fill the rest in. the alien genre has already gone too far in my oppinion. if a guy likes T3 over any one matrix movie, he most definitely should not be the one directing this. the feeling is get is this guy is after the bucks. god i wish jim and john thomas could write a third predator screenplay. rumor has it robert rodriguez is writing a screenplay for predator 3. NOOOOOOOO stick to ur spanish gunslinger spykids crap. those movies blew. apart from several decent scenes in Desperado i dont like rodriguez;z movies. i HOPE, Paul Anderson he proves me wrong. T3 was aweful. i wish they jsut cut to the war against machines in the future, something new, and not another chase movie. T2 was INCREDIBLE. and i really dont liek aliens on earth. besides the predator designs are nothign new. if you looked closing at the end of Predator 2 you'll notice all the designs are nearly copied from that, so far. it looks like predator armor is more bulky htis time around though. i wonder if directors ever read out feedback. i mea its a lil late for AvP. but i think it would help. oh well...make a buck

  :)  nice  hope this flick hit usa soon       nbk  houton tx  209 stockton babbe

we dont need mitigators here SC.  F'n Anderson said he is gonna show for the first time what REAL, natural, pure predator vision looks like. well hell we already saw what that looks like in the original Predator. in no way redefine the original.  second if you morons are goign to bother posting make sure you can type the english language and put together sentences.  is there any official AvP forum out there?

The mvoie looks interesting. I like the new pred mask and junk, but I just do not know about Paul Anderson. I truly hope the guy can pull this off and it be an actual good film. I would really like to see a Predator 3. Predator is by far one a personal favorite series of mine. Aliens...well I liked the first two, but resurection was horrible. Please let this movie do good.

  ;D  i cant wait till the movie comes out, i think ill see it like 20 times most likely.

i hope you do see it 20 times and save the money and time of 19 people. thanks for being duped you witless sk8er pansie.

Has anyone heard about any of the human weaponry in this film smartguns, miniguns etc.?    >:D  

Infra-Red, the movie takes place in present day, so i'm pretty sure the guns they used in Aliens won't be used in this film.  Just present day ordinary guns.

here's what i think will happen in the end..  A: there is one human (da chixor) and one pred left. they kill the queen and the pred takes da chixor back to the pred mothership. this is an important ritual for preds and if a human can make it out while everything else dies, then they cool enough to chill with preds. (i think something like this happened in one of the books)  B: one pred, one human and the pred stays behind while the human escapes. the pred then self-detonates because the area is overrun by aliens.  PS: no i haven't read all previous posts so if some one already predicted something like this, i'm sorry.    :D  

This is gonna be the shits

It is the film of the year!!!

Now I changed my writer's name to Predboy. Just so you know. Now hears my opinion about the movie. ITS GOING TO KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!   ;D   Oh yeah, and the predators will kick the alien's ass.

still 21. that looks like a predator standing next to her. if so is he sneaking up behind her or standing with her?   :-\  

Cracked Tusk, everyone who's written about that shot so far, seems to think that the Predator is standing with her! But it's still anyones guess    >:D  

yea i think there is a predator standing with her

This Film Must top the movies comin out soon!! No really it looks AMAZING!! i cnt wait till i see it no doubt. I think everyone thinks the same   :)     :)     8)