http://awardscampaign.com/2015/10/07/ridley-scott-teases-new-group-of-travelers-in-prometheus-sequel-alien-paradise-lost/
"Prometheus" had a much different aesthetic than "Alien" that had less to do with the 33 years between both films than Scott's own unique vision of the story. We asked Scott if "Paradise Lost" would stick to the same look that he'd gone with for "Prometheus" and learned much more than we expected with his answer.
"It's going to be it's own separate thing because they are going to the planet of the Engineers and they are going to see what happened there. It was a disaster," Scott says. "And they will be in that alien craft that takes them there, but with a new group that's incoming, a new group of travelers in the beginning of the first act."
Anybody remember the alleged parallell plot that suggested multiple Davids and recon team heading to LV 223?
I would absolutely love it if they have a version of the script where they can bring can bring Charlize Theron and give her a juicier role post Fury Road.
Multiple juggs that each has its own david ??
Sorry I must have misunderstood.
How can there be multiple juggs driving at the engineer homeworld ??
Is the recon team arriving at lv 223 ?? Oh their is the many davids. Sorry.
But why would many juggernauts arive at the engineer homeworld at the same time ??
Thank god, all this time i thought it was going to be the broad and the decap. head type of erotic sci-fi flick.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 07, 2015, 02:48:00 PM
Thank god, all this time i thought it was going to be the broad and the decap. head type of erotic sci-fi flick.
I'd like to think that's sarcasm. :P
Seemed like a given to me.
Agreed there had to be more than one story line.
Disaster : natural ones ??
Quote from: oduodu on Oct 07, 2015, 02:51:31 PM
Agreed there had to be more than one story line.
Disaster : natural ones ??
So we have David and Shaw in 'Paradise' / a decrepit Garden of Eden (as per Paradise Lost) and a separate story that involves another team onboard a ship with another complete David and so TWO parallel stories, aaaand a new ship? A 'Magellan' maybe?
Sounds awesome to me.
Sounds interesting and I like the possibility of the snake destroying Eden as it were
Could it be that there is something alive on the ship that Shaw and head-boy took? A traveller on bard the ship that joins them? It seems pretty odd that a ship would just start to follow them. Unless it was a Yutani ship...
Exciting! It would be cool if the parallel story was another crew going to LV-223. Maybe
Spoiler
we'll get an explanation for the mountain in Fire and Stone! :laugh:
Maybe Riply mother ;D
Quote from: tmjhur on Oct 07, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
... recon team heading to LV 223?
I misread that as '
retcon team heading to LV233'.
Seeing as Scott is taking so much control over the whole series and the way he's been talking lately about 'Prometheus' sequels finally leading into the 1979 film, maybe he indeed intends to terminate the series at 'ALIEN'. That's how he's been talking lately. He's even been known to instruct Blomkamp what he can and
can't do with 'ALIEN 5'.
Has Scott mentioned any relevance of the sequels in this renewed version of the 'ALIEN' universe? Maybe 'ALIENS' will join 'ALIEN3' and 'ALIEN: Resurrection' on the retcon hit list.
After all, while he did like the movie, he has been known to say it was not the direction he'd take the 2nd film if it was offered to him.
The Man is in control once again and I am so loving what he is doing. I'm looking forward to how this outcome develops either way.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: oduodu on Oct 07, 2015, 02:43:11 PM
Multiple juggs that each has its own david ??
Sorry I must have misunderstood.
How can there be multiple juggs driving at the engineer homeworld ??
Multiple juggs. I'm in.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 07, 2015, 08:33:43 PM
Could it be that there is something alive on the ship that Shaw and head-boy took? A traveller on bard the ship that joins them? It seems pretty odd that a ship would just start to follow them. Unless it was a Yutani ship...
Bingo. They were probably in route, on the heals of the Prometheus but intercepted Shaws warning and decided to follow her instead.
I must admit, "(It was a disaster," Scott says.)" I love the sound of that. :)
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 07, 2015, 10:01:41 PM
Seeing as Scott is taking so much control over the whole series and the way he's been talking lately about 'Prometheus' sequels finally leading into the 1979 film, maybe he indeed intends to terminate the series at 'ALIEN'. That's how he's been talking lately. He's even been known to instruct Blomkamp what he can and can't do with 'ALIEN 5'.
But at the rate Scott changes his own ideas, who knows how much sense this series will be able to make of itself when this is all over. Right now, the original storyline as we know it is being rewritten, erased, and re-concluded at its beginning, middle, and end...all at the same time. It's insanity I tell you!! lol
Since all the droids in the previous films are going alphabetical by their first name Ash,Bishop,Call,David and now E. Could this new droid /engineered being be Ellen Ripley?
C'mon... What do you REALLY think?
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/cd4d2c3ac794b246490b9047b7d09c3f/tumblr_n8iidu7w3A1s2wio8o1_500.gif)
Scott is having a ball yanking our chains. I'm just going to roll with it.
-Windebieste.
I'd love to see some Yutani action in this. We've never gotten much emphasis on the Japanese side of the W-Y Corp. Seeing as this is a prequel I wouldn't be shocked if these upcoming films delve into the merger (however hostile it might be). I thought they missed a nice opportunity in Prometheus to have it be a joint Weyland & Yutani mission. Or maybe Weyland hired some Yutani folks as consultants, but they were in it for corporate espionage as well (shades of Ash/Mother deception in Alien).
Another thought... With the Ripley connection I suppose Shaw and David could be floating around in the Juggernaut long enough for more advanced W-Y starships (or Col. Marine ships like the Conestoga class vessels) to catch up to them. The older Ripley from Blomkamp's film could link up with Shaw and David.
Perhaps that is reason enough for a name change from Prometheus to Alien: Paradise Lost?
Ok, probably not, but it's fun to speculate how all this stuff could link up into a cohesive continuity.
Multiple juggs.
I didn't mean it that way !!
LOL
Multiple juggernauts.
The more I think about Blomkamp's film, the more I worry it isn't going to meet its full potential. He's likely got the studio whispering in one ear "don't erase Alien 3 and Resurrection" and then Sir Ridley yelling in the other ear that "it all has to align with Prometheus/Paradise Lost/original Alien stuff".
I doubt the initial concept with Hicks is going to fly now. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of retconning or erasing Alien 3, it does make sense in terms of what Blomkamp seemed to be aiming for. I mean, Ripley died in A3, and Ripley 8 is another entity. It sorta makes sense to do something that follows on from Aliens. An older fighter pulled back into the fray. I like that idea. It has serious potential, even though it tinkers with the canon in a funky way.
Biomechanical Giger Juggernoids :o
Quote from: Robot Sentry on Oct 08, 2015, 03:35:02 AM
The more I think about Blomkamp's film, the more I worry it isn't going to meet its full potential. He's likely got the studio whispering in one ear "don't erase Alien 3 and Resurrection" and then Sir Ridley yelling in the other ear that "it all has to align with Prometheus/Paradise Lost/original Alien stuff".
I would think that it's a safe bet that Alien 3 and Resurrection are going to be ignored as far as this new Alien movie is concerned. Also, even if Alien 3 and Resurrection would be accounted for, all signs point to Blomkamp is still going to be doing some retconning in some way. He's said he's not going to be using clones or synthetics to be explaining how Ellen Ripley is still alive. If Alien 3 and Resurrection are to be counted.. they need to be explained. And as far as I know, they could either be explained as dreams or false memories.
Now that would suggest that they still happened, but they never really happened except only as dreams. To me, that screams out one of the biggest cop outs which the franchises could ever pull. It's a bit insulting, at least to me for someone who is a fan of Alien 3. I mean I understand why people didn't like it, and the trouble behind the scenes it was to create the film. But all signs point to some sort of retconning going on, and even Michael Biehn had confirmed it when he had supposedly talked to Blomkamp.
As for Fox not wanting Blomkamp to erase Alien 3 and Resurrection... Blomkamp and Fox really have a... shakey history. Especially with how Fox and Blomkamp sort of had fallen out of favor for each other when deals fell through for Blomkamp's proposed Halo movie, so I heard. So I would think they're willing to let Blomkamp do what he wants with this movie, so long as it doesn't tread on Ridley's toes.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 07, 2015, 08:33:43 PM
Could it be that there is something alive on the ship that Shaw and head-boy took? A traveller on bard the ship that joins them? It seems pretty odd that a ship would just start to follow them. Unless it was a Yutani ship...
That be cool. Yutani samurai androids takes on the deacon.
There was an entry in the weyland industries timeline that shows that yutani and weyland had some patent battles in court somewhere in the 2020's . Many years later weyland industries had to pull back a whole series of david's. I always wondered if it wasn't yutani who wanted to sabotage the andoids to to get their own line of andoids in the mark out of jealousy over losing the patent battles.
I always thought this industrial espionage theme might carry into the franchise. There might be spies planted on rival ships. So perhaps yutani was well aware of what was going on and had a ship follow the prometheus. If they get their hands on the rest of the juggernauts they would have an unfair advantage over weyland industries since they would have info and discoveries that no else had. I think weyland and yutani had ships following. If both arrives at lv 223 would they kill each other ?? David' s vs samurai/ninja bots ?? Unless something happens that forces them to join forces.
Quote from: oduodu on Oct 08, 2015, 05:00:27 AM
That be cool. Yutani samurai androids takes on the deacon.
Good god man that screams Robocop 3! I don't think I could survive ninjutsu in an alien movie.
Your probably right. Was it Mako who played the role ?
Robocop 3 sucked anyway.
Quote from: oduodu on Oct 08, 2015, 05:18:15 AM
Your probably right. Was it Mako who played the role ?
No, Mako played Kanemitsu, Bruce Locke was the guy who played Otomo, the cyborg ninja.
I wonder who would be cast as yutani employees ?? Ken watanabe maybe ?? Maybe the girl who played in wolverine who helped him in the bar after he sorted out the guys who sgot the bear ??
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 08, 2015, 01:07:48 AM
C'mon... What do you REALLY think?
https://38.media.tumblr.com/cd4d2c3ac794b246490b9047b7d09c3f/tumblr_n8iidu7w3A1s2wio8o1_500.gif
Scott is having a ball yanking our chains. I'm just going to roll with it.
-Windebieste.
I read, "Scott is yanking our balls."
Quote"And they will be in that alien craft that takes them there, but with a new group that's incoming, a new group of travelers in the beginning of the first act."
... meaning that those travellers will get inside the Juggernaut on its way to Paradise ?
Because if there are at least 2 ships headed there, I assume the Juggernaut would be much faster than a human ship (especially one built before year 2100), so even if it is able to track Shaw and David, it would arrive much later than them. Unless FTL technology reach its limit even for Engineers, or their Homeworld is pretty close to LV-223...or David isn't able to make it reach maximum speed, or... ?
Quote from: Robot Sentry on Oct 08, 2015, 03:18:45 AM
[...] it's fun to speculate how all this stuff could link up into a cohesive continuity.
I guessing therefore that the journey can't be more than a few months ?? In Spaihts script the engineer homeworld was indicated to be somewhere in sagitarius's arm. I think..
2 to 1 David misinterprets the star map directions and they end up on the wrong planet.
I hope not.
Eh ....Miss Shaw ....I have to say .... I think I should have turned right 3 stars back. Or was that 4 stars back ??
LOL
This article also speculates:
http://www.slashfilm.com/alien-paradise-lost-will-introduce-new-explorers-to-get-mercilessly-slaughtered-in-space/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/alien-paradise-lost-will-introduce-new-explorers-to-get-mercilessly-slaughtered-in-space/)
I don't know where they get the mercilessly slaughtered part.
ehmm woud be save to say that the new crew will be the crew from Alien 5,
Hicks and Ripley head to their homeworld and so is Shaw and David face.
therefor Ridley calls it Alien: Paradise Lost, if he had called it Prometheus 2 he wouldnt have the right to use the characters like Hicks and Ripley and calling it Alien he can choose by himself to use the characters Shaw and David.
But maybe Ridley was a little off and did he just mentioned Blomkamps title for the new Alien movie LoL
Quote from: DarknessSo just who are the mystery characters? Perhaps a second unit sent by Weyland Industries or a commercial vessel like the Nostromo just happened to be passing by?
It's a rescue mission. You'll love it. There's some dumbass scientists they need to rescue from their stupidity.
aaannndddd...Zing!
We can't really judge the additional characters until we know more.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 08, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: DarknessSo just who are the mystery characters? Perhaps a second unit sent by Weyland Industries or a commercial vessel like the Nostromo just happened to be passing by?
It's a rescue mission. You'll love it. There's some dumbass scientists they need to rescue from their stupidity.
Perfect! Hahaha.
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 07, 2015, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Oct 07, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
... recon team heading to LV 223?
I misread that as 'retcon team heading to LV233'.
Seeing as Scott is taking so much control over the whole series and the way he's been talking lately about 'Prometheus' sequels finally leading into the 1979 film, maybe he indeed intends to terminate the series at 'ALIEN'. That's how he's been talking lately. He's even been known to instruct Blomkamp what he can and can't do with 'ALIEN 5'.
Has Scott mentioned any relevance of the sequels in this renewed version of the 'ALIEN' universe? Maybe 'ALIENS' will join 'ALIEN3' and 'ALIEN: Resurrection' on the retcon hit list.
After all, while he did like the movie, he has been known to say it was not the direction he'd take the 2nd film if it was offered to him.
The Man is in control once again and I am so loving what he is doing. I'm looking forward to how this outcome develops either way.
-Windebieste.
Hasn't the use of the LV designation for planets, the use of Weyland YutanI (as opposed to Weylan) and the sly play on 'building better worlds' legitimised Cameron's contributions to the world of Prometheus? Granted they're small things, but they exist because of AlienS.
Finally found the article I mentioned I was looking for in another thread where sources said the Prometheus sequel would be more "alien-y".
http://www.thewrap.com/prometheus-2-lands-green-lantern-writer-may-feature-multiple-michael-fassbenders-exclusive/
So yeah the rumours go back a while anyway.
Quote from: Darwinsgirl on Oct 08, 2015, 12:30:16 AM
Since all the droids in the previous films are going alphabetical by their first name Ash,Bishop,Call,David and now E. Could this new droid /engineered being be Ellen Ripley?
I always though it'd be "Edward", plus it'd be a nod to Edward Scissorhands, an artificial human from a classic film I watched.
I'm curious what the names for Synthetics would be once we get to letters such as X, Y or Z.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 08, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: DarknessSo just who are the mystery characters? Perhaps a second unit sent by Weyland Industries or a commercial vessel like the Nostromo just happened to be passing by?
It's a rescue mission. You'll love it. There's some dumbass scientists they need to rescue from their stupidity.
hahaha the most perfect line ever
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Oct 08, 2015, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 08, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: DarknessSo just who are the mystery characters? Perhaps a second unit sent by Weyland Industries or a commercial vessel like the Nostromo just happened to be passing by?
It's a rescue mission. You'll love it. There's some dumbass scientists they need to rescue from their stupidity.
hahaha the most perfect line ever
It is pretty clever and funny. :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 08, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: DarknessSo just who are the mystery characters? Perhaps a second unit sent by Weyland Industries or a commercial vessel like the Nostromo just happened to be passing by?
It's a rescue mission. You'll love it. There's some dumbass scientists they need to rescue from their stupidity.
I thought it was,
"There's some juicy colonist daughters we need to rescue from their virginity."
Quote from: LCpl. D. Grant on Oct 08, 2015, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 08, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: DarknessSo just who are the mystery characters? Perhaps a second unit sent by Weyland Industries or a commercial vessel like the Nostromo just happened to be passing by?
It's a rescue mission. You'll love it. There's some dumbass scientists they need to rescue from their stupidity.
I thought it was, "There's some juicy colonist daughters we need to rescue from their virginity."
Hey, I sure wouldn't mind getting some more of that Arcturian poontang!
I see all these comments about characters in ALIEN: LOST PARADISE "will know of Ellen Ripley" or will be connected with ALIEN 5. Does anyone know that Ellen Ripley was born in 2092 and PROMETHEUS takes place at the end on 2093? Unless the sequel takes place 20 years later, I don't think anyone would know of a 2 year old Ripley...
Don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!"
Quote from: NickisSmart on Oct 09, 2015, 03:14:50 AM
Don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!"
Dude you were supposed to say "but the one you had was male"! Man what kind of aliens fan are you? :P
Bottom line, the so called travelers are simply all going to die to become host for more of those things.
I presume the other ship they are travelling in carries the "deadly cargo" aswell, what by some plot twist they are the "snake" to edens garden aka paradise aka engineers homeworld and inadvertently unleash the deadly black goo onto the engineer populace!
What a cock up that would be for Shaw hahaha!
Quote from: Bob A. Booey on Oct 09, 2015, 03:01:30 AM
I see all these comments about characters in ALIEN: LOST PARADISE "will know of Ellen Ripley" or will be connected with ALIEN 5. Does anyone know that Ellen Ripley was born in 2092 and PROMETHEUS takes place at the end on 2093? Unless the sequel takes place 20 years later, I don't think anyone would know of a 2 year old Ripley...
It's speculation because Scott said Paradise Lost will feature a connection to Ripley.
New travellers?
The fall of Adam & Eve?
Hmmm better not rip off my old script...:P
http://www.scribd.com/doc/214719933/Paradise-Prometheus-II-first-50-Pages
I don't think the new travellers stuff is of any particular importance. It was never going to just be those 2.
Well... travelers could mean anyone. Maybe it's a long lost troop of engineers or worse, other humans that they created from the planet Valhalla. Be freaking awesome it we found out that Ripley was from another human race that the engineers created. The reveal, the galaxy is littered with humans that have a DNA match with Earth humans. Always figured Arcturians were just really sexy humans. Outer world colonization my ass; it's galaxy assimilation!
:laugh:
I would love to see some other creations of the Engineers. Other sentient life.
This is getting worse by the day. Who still listens to this fool? and if they do listen do them take him seriously? its so laughable that if he announced that the new travellers were Predators i would actually be happy. Or better still bigfoot, ET or THE THING.
What a disaster
Well I kind of assume that they were creating other life forms throughout the eons, including other humans. Plus the engineers home world must be filled with unknown horrors. Out of sheer coincidence another sentient race could have been on their way to Paradise. Perhaps at the very least, something else already beat Shaw and David to what's left of paradise.
Man if Ridley reads this board he's probably laughing his ass off.
It was pretty obvious there would need to be more characters in this than just Shaw and David, but it's kinda stretching credulity a bit that even more people are running into the Alien before the Nostromo and yet people still know nothing about it in 2122.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 09, 2015, 11:32:37 AM
Well... travelers could mean anyone. Maybe it's a long lost troop of engineers or worse, other humans that they created from the planet Valhalla. Be freaking awesome it we found out that Ripley was from another human race that the engineers created. The reveal, the galaxy is littered with humans that have a DNA match with Earth humans. Always figured Arcturians were just really sexy humans. Outer world colonization my ass; it's galaxy assimilation!
:laugh:
Are you an Arcturian? ;)
;D
This reminds me of a bit of lore I remember reading about the "Predators" game, where Predators seeded other human like creatures on other worlds and apparently some on Earth. I can't fully remember how it was explained, but I think it did mention other human "races" or something.
Look, I'm not saying it was Predators, but it was Predators! *outstretches hands dramatically*
I do like the idea of seeing other Engineer creations, and it wouldn't be surprising to see some of them turn out very human looking. Didn't Ridley mention some new type of alien could show up in the sequel?
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 09, 2015, 05:37:51 AM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Oct 09, 2015, 03:14:50 AM
Don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!"
Dude you were supposed to say "but the one you had was male"! Man what kind of aliens fan are you? :P
Bottom line, the so called travelers are simply all going to die to become host for more of those things.
That's over a 100 at least.
You guys remember that promotional video of Shaw talking about her project to Peter Weyland? You could see the Yutani icon all over the place in that video. My money is on the idea that Yutani was following Shaw and as soon as Shaw takes off from LV-223, we see a Yutani ship following her as well. Remember, at some point before the events of Alien, the 2 companies have to merge. That is a fact.
Makes sense. If this is a horror film, you gotta have some human to get killed by the hostiles.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 09, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
You guys remember that promotional video of Shaw talking about her project to Peter Weyland? You could see the Yutani icon all over the place in that video. My money is on the idea that Yutani was following Shaw and as soon as Shaw takes off from LV-223, we see a Yutani ship following her as well. Remember, at some point before the events of Alien, the 2 companies have to merge. That is a fact.
That would actually be pretty sweet!
Quote from: dave1978 on Oct 09, 2015, 11:54:20 AM
This is getting worse by the day. Who still listens to this fool? and if they do listen do them take him seriously? its so laughable that if he announced that the new travellers were Predators i would actually be happy. Or better still bigfoot, ET or THE THING.
What a disaster
It's all just entertainment man. Should never be taken 100% serious.
Who wouldn't be happy if it was Predators? :laugh:
Haha, f**k why not make it the predators. I have full faith that NB could do an awesome AVP movie. Seriously.
All I want to know is whether these new travelers are tailing Shaw and David or investigating LV223 again or both.
It could also be, like in ALIEN where these other travellers are on some other mission and are offered some kind of bonus to investigate, since it would save the Company money and time, if there are some missions already close by.
They should just go back to the original Prometheus script; Shaw decapitating an ultramorph with a chainsaw.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 09, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
You guys remember that promotional video of Shaw talking about her project to Peter Weyland? You could see the Yutani icon all over the place in that video. My money is on the idea that Yutani was following Shaw and as soon as Shaw takes off from LV-223, we see a Yutani ship following her as well. Remember, at some point before the events of Alien, the 2 companies have to merge. That is a fact.
That could work pretty well.
Movie starts with in a room that is completely dark with the exception of dim lighting from a computer console.
A display lights up, and text appears on the screen. "Quiet Eye surveillance has detected priority message" "Decrypting...."
The screen displays Elizabeth Shaw's video message to Weyland. As the message end's the camera pulls back to show a secure facility with the Y logo with the words Yatani Corporation. A little exposition and the audience could understand how a rival company might be just a few days behind the Prometheus.
Not much of a stretch considering how phone traffic is recorded and run through voice recognition in todays world.
You could have the Yutani ship enter the system just as Shaw and David leave in Juggernaut #2. Hell, have Yutani send two ships. One ship follows Shaw and David while the second lands on LV223 to check things out.
It would certainly imply some sort of corporate espionage. It's almost like the video is trying to map Elizabeth's facial features to find someone who could pass as her.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 13, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4bztOr94cg
It would certainly imply some sort of corporate espionage. It's almost like the video is trying to map Elizabeth's facial features to find someone who could pass as her.
Yeeeeeeaaaaah, don't think something from a viral video will make it into the sequel.
I always thought they were trying to see if she was lying about her discoveries or findings. What was interesting was the date of the video.I think 2083 ? Ten years before the mission.
I think it would be an interesting touch to have the Viral Video at the start of the film
Yes new ones. That gives more info.
Teenagers.
Like JASON X
Oh f**k it, if it's space travelers then my monies on Captain Kirk and the crew of the Enterprise.
Quote from: tmjhur on Oct 13, 2015, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 13, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4bztOr94cg
It would certainly imply some sort of corporate espionage. It's almost like the video is trying to map Elizabeth's facial features to find someone who could pass as her.
Yeeeeeeaaaaah, don't think something from a viral video will make it into the sequel.
Well if you consider the viral video from Prometheus, the one which was supposed to have been sent out to LV-223 in advance of Prometheus' arrival on the planet, you can see that at least one video was a part of the film. That viral video was literally discussed in the film, making it de facto canon. One could suppose that the 3 other viral videos are also canon. I think therefore that it is fair to say that the Shaw viral video was intended to be canon and not just a marketing ploy. It would be interesting to find out if Fox treats the viral videos as canon. I can't see why they wouldn't.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 13, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
It would certainly imply some sort of corporate espionage. It's almost like the video is trying to map Elizabeth's facial features to find someone who could pass as her.
My thought was that it was initially doing a facial recognition scan, and then identifying if she is telling the truth or lying. Possibly and upgraded Voight-Kampff test :)
Actually.. I just watched the video carefully. You can see the text "Yutani Photo-Polygraph Technologies" on the right side. The left side starts out as unconfirmed, but then sequences through a number of names similar to Elizabeth Shaw until it gets a lock. As the left side attempts to get a positive identification, the right side has meters showing honesty, anxiety, and determination.
At the end of the video you can see that the software was licensed to Weyland Corp.
I have no idea if they would use it, but it would IMO be the perfect way to start the sequel. It's not hard to believe that Yutani would be monitoring or have a back door built into a piece of software licensed to Weyland Corp. It would make perfect sense, and give the writers the ability to introduce characters to LV223 close to the events in Prometheus.
Otherwise your looking at many years for a follow up mission to get there. The gap would make it difficult for humans to follow the Juggernaut as a story option. And the Deacon might starve to death by that point. After the tasty hammerpedes there wont be much left to eat!
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Oct 14, 2015, 04:31:15 AM
Actually.. I just watched the video carefully. You can see the text "Yutani Photo-Polygraph Technologies" on the right side. The left side starts out as unconfirmed, but then sequences through a number of names similar to Elizabeth Shaw until it gets a lock. As the left side attempts to get a positive identification, the right side has meters showing honesty, anxiety, and determination.
At the end of the video you can see that the software was licensed to Weyland Corp.
I have no idea if they would use it, but it would IMO be the perfect way to start the sequel. It's not hard to believe that Yutani would be monitoring or have a back door built into a piece of software licensed to Weyland Corp. It would make perfect sense, and give the writers the ability to introduce characters to LV223 close to the events in Prometheus.
Thanks for pointing that out. That makes far more sense! I could buy into them having a backdoor too.
Can anyone verify the date of the video ?? 2076 - 2079 - 2083 ??
It's 4 August 2079 if you're a Brit or 8 April 2079 if you're 'Murican.
It will probably be a ship full of Aussies though. Riddles will need to employ lots of Australian actors in order to get that tax discount.
Thanks
12 years before the mission.
So supposedly they want yer wan from Mission Impossible 5 for this! For a "peach of a female role" according to collider.
Maybe they realised what a bad hand they dealt poor Noomi Rapace!
Linky link?
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/rebecca-ferguson-eyed-for-ridley-scotts-alien-paradise-lost-joins-the-snowman-with-michael-fassbender-20151014
Collider has also picked this up:
QuoteAnd perhaps most intriguing, Ferguson is also being eyed for a role in Ridley Scott's next project, the Prometheus sequel Alien: Paradise Lost. Apparently the latest draft of the script was just delivered, and it's "very strong" with "a peach of a major female." Fox was eager to nab Ferguson for Gambit, and they're apparently hoping to land her for the Prometheus follow-up (which would reunite her with Fassbender for back-to-back projects), though no talks have taken place just yet. So what's the role? Scott recently revealed that in addition to Fassbender and Noomi Rapace's characters, Paradise Lost includes a new group of travelers, so perhaps that's where this new female character fits in. Or maybe she's an Engineer, which would certainly be an interesting fit.
http://collider.com/rebecca-ferguson-prometheus-2-the-snowman/ (http://collider.com/rebecca-ferguson-prometheus-2-the-snowman/)
http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/rebecca-ferguson-slice-600x200.jpg
It all links back to Deadline. I've posted it up on the front page. Thanks gents.
First Off , I don't care if " Alien: Paradise Lost " is prequel or not , in the twenty years or so , there have a lot of prequels . I hoping for more insight into the " Engineers culture , In first film the ' Engineer they woke from cryogenics, was not necessarily an engineer, but a solder with a mission no matter what. They such a powerful
culture they can create life on molecular level the concept was really fascinating, also it interesting to find out what
happens with " Deacon " ( I found i beautiful ) , I would like to know what " HR. Geiger thought of it.
Quote from: redalert51 on Oct 29, 2015, 04:28:59 AM
First Off , I don't care if " Alien: Paradise Lost " is prequel or not , in the twenty years or so , there have a lot of prequels . I hoping for more insight into the " Engineers culture , In first film the ' Engineer they woke from cryogenics, was not necessarily an engineer, but a solder with a mission no matter what. They such a powerful
culture they can create life on molecular level the concept was really fascinating, also it interesting to find out what
happens with " Deacon " ( I found i beautiful ) , I would like to know what " HR. Geiger thought of it.
I'm sure he's pissed that his artwork got sidelined once again. It didn't even look biomechanical.
Quote from: LCpl. D. Grant on Oct 31, 2015, 10:55:54 PM
Quote from: redalert51 on Oct 29, 2015, 04:28:59 AM
First Off , I don't care if " Alien: Paradise Lost " is prequel or not , in the twenty years or so , there have a lot of prequels . I hoping for more insight into the " Engineers culture , In first film the ' Engineer they woke from cryogenics, was not necessarily an engineer, but a solder with a mission no matter what. They such a powerful
culture they can create life on molecular level the concept was really fascinating, also it interesting to find out what
happens with " Deacon " ( I found i beautiful ) , I would like to know what " HR. Geiger thought of it.
I'm sure he's pissed that his artwork got sidelined once again. It didn't even look biomechanical.
I presume you know this, but in case you don't, HR Giger passed away.
I don't care either way, but I certainly think the movie could have been done with just Shaw and David. Unique, difficult, but doable.
Yeah... It could've been like that Tom Hanks film, 'Castaway' ...in space. With Noomi playing the Hanks role and Fassbinder playing Wilson. Woulda been great. Now they had to go and spoil it.
Now I'm hoping that the new cast will include an incompetent security guard and 2000 year old revenant warrior zombie living dead person thingy. Then it could be just like that weird German/Canadian/British co-production... Think about it: A hot chick in space with decapitated robot head and their crew aboard an organic alien spacecraft capable of destroying worlds.
I'd go for a 'Lexx' reboot right about now. ...and THIS IS IT!
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THIS... This is exactly where 'ALIEN: Paradise Lexx' needs to go!
-Windebieste.
Hey man eva haberman is way more beautiful damnit.
Quote from: windebieste on Nov 03, 2015, 08:12:52 AM
Yeah... It could've been like that Tom Hanks film, 'Castaway' ...in space. With Noomi playing the Hanks role and Fassbinder playing Wilson. Woulda been great. Now they had to go and spoil it.
Now I'm hoping that the new cast will include an incompetent security guard and 2000 year old revenant warrior zombie living dead person thingy. Then it could be just like that weird German/Canadian/British co-production... Think about it: A hot chick in space with decapitated robot head and their crew aboard an organic alien spacecraft capable of destroying worlds.
I'd go for a 'Lexx' reboot right about now. ...and THIS IS IT!
http://blog.openconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Lexx-Cast-e1409619258199.jpg
THIS... This is exactly where 'ALIEN: Paradise Lexx' needs to go!
-Windebieste.
Why didn't I think of this lol. Classic. But yeah Eva Haberman is better ;)
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Was Lexx the one with the insect ship?
Yes the ship is a living being and it can destroy whole planets in seconds in the two known universes. I am not sure if its an insect. Some of the other members may know. Anyone ??
Sorry I forgot about the fly eyes. Definitely an insect then.
Absolutely right about Eva. I had her in mind but couldn't find a decent group shot with all the characters present. So Xenia had to do.
Still, 'Prometheus' ending almost sets itself up as an alternative pilot for 'Lexx'. lol.
Man, that show was totally off it's tits and full of WTF? moments. Well, both of them, really.
-Windebieste.
Don't worry xenia seeberg is gorgeous too but she lacked the onscreen charisma of eva. Mind you as series I thought It was quite good.
Yes its true it does set itself as a sequel to prometheus.
Its an Insect like ship. I think it was genetically engineered to be The Shadows best weapon or something
Well, yeah. It sure was something. Something to be watched at 3am on a Sunday morning accompanied by bunch of friends sharing too much beer and pizza.
Don't get me wrong. It's an awesome show.
-Windebieste.
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Should add him to the avatar list.
Quote from: Darwinsgirl on Oct 08, 2015, 12:30:16 AM
Since all the droids in the previous films are going alphabetical by their first name Ash,Bishop,Call,David and now E. Could this new droid /engineered being be Ellen Ripley?
No, they follow a biblical approach, the female robot would thus be named
Eve.
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Something less cute though...
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and less powerful...Wall-E EVE would reck everything in her path with those lazers of hers..