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Release Date - May 17, 2013
Cool. Looking forward to it. Although even when I squint, I can't quite make it out yet.
I'd like to see this thing come back. It terrified me the first time I saw this.
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Absolutely. The Planet Killer would be a great plot device for a Trek movie, although I doubt it will be in the next one. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see it, though, should the new series continue to be successful.
Awesome I hope it will be good!
this makes me curious on the plot :D
Not a trekie here but i loved the new Movie so this is more than welcome for me. :)
Looking forward to this.
Is "Star Trek 2" Delayed by Several Years?
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=16581&count=0
WTF? ???
Leave it to one actor to f*ck everything up.
Star Trek: The Search for Spock 2
Zachary Quinto Says "Star Trek 2" is Not Delayed
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=16585&count=0
Excellent. :)
Woot!
YAY :D
I though Khan was the bad guy?
It hasnt been confirmed.
Karl Urban talks about the sequel.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Kaboom/news/?a=20047
Edit: Filming will start in January. ;D
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=68087
Star Trek Sequel Update
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/6of13/news/?a=22567
Producer Damon Lindelof recently stated that The Dark Knight will serve as inspiration to JJ Abrams Star Trek sequel, meaning that the story will go one step beyond the first movie, however, the tone will remain the same.
Lindelof: The bar is very very high for the sequel. We are looking at a movie like 'The Dark Knight' which actually went one step beyond 'Batman Begins.' It was really about something and at the same time was a superhero movie. We don't want to abandon all the things that made the first movie work - have it be fun and emotional, but we also want the movie to thematically resonate, so we are putting on our highfalutin hats.
When Star Trek producer Bryan Burk talked to TrekMovie about the Trek/Batman comparison he had this to say:
...our aspirations are for the [Star Trek sequel] to be even bigger and better than the first one. I don't mean that just in scope, I mean content and characters and emotionally.
Now UK's SFX magazine's 200th issue features an article about the Star Trek sequel that includes interviews with JJ Abrams, and co-writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. Both Orci and Kurtzman contribute to the debate about who the villain or villains shall be for the sequel and that the choice will be based on what is right for the story and what the characters need.
The following are statements from SFX's feature...
Abrams: The universe that Roddenberry created was so vast. And so it's hard to say there's one particular thing that stands out as what the sequel must be. Which is on the one hand, a great opportunity. On the other hand it's the greatest challenge – where do you go? What do you focus on? But I'm incredibly excited about the prospects.
Kurtzman: Starting at a premise of what you want to see and then working a story around it is not how we do it. You have to start with what is the right story. And that if you can say "That's a story that Khan fits into", that's how you get to that. Not deciding on a menu list of items and then seeing if you can't string them all together.
Orci also pointed out that any villain will "reflect" the "new universe" they set up in the first movie. Orci also specifically discusses the Klingons as villains in SFX's feature.
Orci: Introducing a new villain in the sequel is tempting because we now have this incredible new sandbox to play in. On the other hand, some fans really want to see Klingons and it's hard not to listen to that. The trick is not to do something that's been seen before just because you think it will be a short cut to likeability.
Trekweb.com also quotes Orci from SFX's Star Trek feature: The audience is no longer asking 'Is everything going to be the same?' They know that it isn't, and our villain, be it a person or a sci-fi concept should reflect this new universe."
So far, it has been indicated that Captain Pike (or rather Ambassador Pike) will be featured in the sequel. Roberto Orci has confirmed that Montgomery Scott (Simon Pegg) will also return and will have a larger role in the sequel. Humour will still form a vital component of the sequel.
The full Star Trek feature can be found in SFX magazine, which is available in the UK. The untitled sequel to JJ Abram's Star Trek is set to beam into cinemas on June 29th, 2012.
Klingons in Star Trek 2?
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/scifimediazone/news/?a=24406
Rumors abound that the Klingons will be showing up in the sequel to JJ Abrams' Star Trek, which hits theatres in summer 2012. In an interview with IGN, creature designer Neville Page addressed that possibility and discussed ridged forehead and non-ridged forehead Klingons.
On the latter issue, he says, "It's almost like treating it as if I were a Klingon designing the human race. How would I go about it? And then I think about it from the perspective of an alien looking at human beings: some are lighter in skin color and some are darker. But you would go, those people with their eyes with that flap of skin there and then those people who are really tall and sinewy. But there are different physiological ticks even in the Klingon world. Maybe they are all brown, but the ridges are the African ones, the fewer ridges are the Asian ones. I don't know, but I always feel the necessity to justify and rationalize even if I can't actually. It just gives me something to work from."
"My approach [in the sequel] would be to try and come up with something that's a unique look but is still a Klingon, obviously. Because I think if I did them really tall like say 9′ and instead of brown made them blue, I might get into a little trouble! But I would try think about them as real deal people — and I know other designers have — but really give them a history and a motivation. Understand why they're dressed the way they are. Understand their rationale for long hair and facial hair. Make sense of those physical features which they typically have, which are the ridged foreheads."
Think you'd be a on a loser by going with Khan. Why try and top the best Trek film? Klingons on the other hand would be good.
yeah, it's a shame they cut all the klingon stuff from the first movie, the deleted scenes with the klingons were epic.
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 26, 2010, 09:52:37 AM
yeah, it's a shame they cut all the klingon stuff from the first movie, the deleted scenes with the klingons were epic.
Didn't Nero have more of a backstory as well?
Quote from: First Blood on Oct 26, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 26, 2010, 09:52:37 AM
yeah, it's a shame they cut all the klingon stuff from the first movie, the deleted scenes with the klingons were epic.
Didn't Nero have more of a backstory as well?
yeah a little bit, i think what happened was that when nero came out of the time fissure him and his crew were captured by the klingons or something, and he's interrogated.
they klingons looked awesome too. because abrams didn't know whether they would have lumpy heads or not, he just made them all wear helmets, that had the lumpy head bit engraved on it
here it is, although i could have sworn it was longer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU0y63Kvds8
That was awesome. :o
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 28, 2010, 04:33:27 PM
Star Trek: The Search for Spock 2
Have a cookie, sir.
If' I'm not mistaken the sequel would involve around the genetic superior super genius Khan, whose newly developed Genesis terraforming "weapon" is stolted by the Klingons, what makes him all full of rage cause they done blowed up his family; hilarity ensues. but then Abrams got all trilogitstic so no Khan.
Could This Be The First Teaser Image For Star Trek 2?
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=24945
I have a friend who works in (removed for obvious reasons) and this image/poster came across his desk today. If I were a betting man, I'd say the image is for some sort of merchandising item, or for some group that needs to plan very far ahead. But I really don't know where it originates from. Hell, it could be an image from an upcoming Star Trek calendar.
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Is it just me, or are the nacelles shorter there?
Where is the "2" in the title?
Sheesh, they can't even do a promo still without a f**king lens flare on it...
J.J. Abrams Talks About A Possible 3D Star Trek Sequel
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/bleedthefreak/news/?a=27992 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/bleedthefreak/news/?a=27992)
Has Paramount asked you to consider doing the next Trek in 3-D?
Yup.
And?
I have nothing against 3-D in theory. But I've also never run to the movies because something's in 3-D. [As for Trek], as soon as I read the script, if it says, "Somebody pushes a weapon toward the camera in a menacing way," and we think, "That'd be better in 3-D!"... I dunno. What do you wanna see? 2-D or 3D?
I don't care.
I'm a big fan of whip pans, which is very hard to do in 3-D. You know, when I was in New York fifteen years ago, and I sort of had the flu, I remember turning the TV on. There were these kids in a very dark, kind of muddy movie that was on a local channel, talking about making out. Then you cut to them walking in the forest, and somebody had a paddleball, and they were doing it right to the camera. It was like this weird, experimental Fellini movie. I was like, "What the [frick] is this movie?" And it was Friday the 13th Part 3 in 3-D — without sex, violence, or 3-D! It was genius.
The script will be ready in about six weeks and Simon Pegg says that filming will begin in August.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/DragonBallNews/news/?a=30568 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/DragonBallNews/news/?a=30568)
NO 3-D! Please J.J, don't do that to me!
Who cares if it's 3D? If you don't like 3D go see the 2D version. Is there seriously nothing else to complain about?
Completely agreed with SM - no one forces 3D down your throat. If you want to see it in 2D, no one is holding you.
2D, 3D - either way, I get to stare at Zoe Saldana.
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
Who cares if it's 3D? If you don't like 3D go see the 2D version. Is there seriously nothing else to complain about?
Ahh well, maybe some of us live in a small town and the theater only has the 3-D version. Every think of that?
Quote from: Spartan113 on Feb 21, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
Every think of that, dick wad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkdlhQavs0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkdlhQavs0#ws)
Quote from: Spartan113 on Feb 21, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
Who cares if it's 3D? If you don't like 3D go see the 2D version. Is there seriously nothing else to complain about?
Ahh well, maybe some of us live in a small town and the theater only has the 3-D version. Every think of that?
I'm sure you'll get over it, princess.
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: Spartan113 on Feb 21, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
Who cares if it's 3D? If you don't like 3D go see the 2D version. Is there seriously nothing else to complain about?
Ahh well, maybe some of us live in a small town and the theater only has the 3-D version. Every think of that?
I'm sure you'll get over it, princess.
Ohhhhhh, good one, man. All I'm saying is that I'm tired of this 3-D craze that is going on and I'm not the only one.
Quote from: Spartan113 on Feb 21, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
Who cares if it's 3D? If you don't like 3D go see the 2D version. Is there seriously nothing else to complain about?
Ahh well, maybe some of us live in a small town and the theater only has the 3-D version. Every think of that?
What kind of town only has the 3D version
instead of the 2D (basic) one? It's f**king illogical.
It isn't.
3d grosses far more.
Quote
Ohhhhhh, good one, man. All I'm saying is that I'm tired of this 3-D craze that is going on and I'm not the only one.
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Quote from: OmegaZilla on Feb 21, 2011, 10:16:39 PM
It isn't.
3d grosses far more.
Yeah...I've seen theaters push
only 3D showings.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Feb 21, 2011, 10:16:39 PM
It isn't.
3d grosses far more.
and if they've paid to get 3d projectors on their only screen why waste time showing 2D movies, now THAT is illogical. and almost the situation i have in my town, we have 2 cinemas who never show the same movies as each other, with 2 screens each, but only 1 of the 4 screens is 3D, it makes no sense to use up half the town's screens on just one movie, so 3D movies are always shown only in 3D
So go somewhere it's in 2D.
Those greedy f**kers. >:(
A movie studio? Greedy?? Surely you jest!!
At my job, we will had 3D and 2D showing of the movie, depending on the movie since we will have both showning if it's a movie that a lot of people will see (For example Avatar, Clash of the Titans, Toy Story 3, How to Train Your Dragon, and Yogi Bear). We will likely have both 2D and 3D showings of ST2.
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2011, 10:25:43 PM
So go somewhere it's in 2D.
so drive 10 miles to the nearest multiplex where tickets and snacks are more expensive and the service is not as good, nah.
So suck it up and watch it in 3D.
i will. i wasn't the one complaining aboout it being in 3D i was just saying some places don't give you a choice.
True. But as you said, if you were really against it, there are choices 10 miles down the road.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Feb 21, 2011, 10:14:12 PM
Quote from: Spartan113 on Feb 21, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
Who cares if it's 3D? If you don't like 3D go see the 2D version. Is there seriously nothing else to complain about?
Ahh well, maybe some of us live in a small town and the theater only has the 3-D version. Every think of that?
What kind of town only has the 3D version instead of the 2D (basic) one? It's f**king illogical.
I remember that when The Last Airbender came out, I was going to take my brother (he saw the cartoons and was curious about how bad the movie was supposed to be) but it was only showing in 3D, so we didn't go.
I loved the first one.
My body- my body is ready.
I just hope they don't try a take on Wrath of Khan.
They could never withstand The Wrath of Khan.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 22, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
They could never withstand The Wrath of Khan.
If anything they'd just remake the episode Space Seed of Kirk and Khan as two masculine young adolescents fighting for a woman on a rocky planet.
The digital screening of star trek (in 4096 x 2304 resolution I believe) I saw in london remains the most visually impressive cinema experience for me, (imo a lot better than Avatar at the BFI Imax).
Though I'm normally against 3D I don't mind it as much for a sci-fi flick, but visual clarity as usual with 3D will almost certainly be worse.
Paramount Approves 'Star Trek 2' Without Seeing A Script
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http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Dustin03Comics/news/?a=30940 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Dustin03Comics/news/?a=30940)
As a longtime, hardcore trek fan, I count the 2009 film as among the best the franchise produced, and I can't wait for more, whether its 2D, 3D, 4D, or a flipbook that JJ put together in his free time.
Quote from: Shasvre on Feb 27, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
Paramount Approves 'Star Trek 2' Without Seeing A Script
http://comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/26320/star-trek-2.jpg
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Dustin03Comics/news/?a=30940 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Dustin03Comics/news/?a=30940)
They're intelligent.
Chris Pine comments on the sequel.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613)
"After a thousand questions regarding the Star Trek sequel I can finally say I am holding the draft script in my hand. I can also now tell you I have a love interest and it's all looking very exciting. Sorry but I cant give you a date for filming yet, but you guys are going to love it!"
f**k yes. Loved the prequel. Bring it on.
Can't wait. Star Trek was one of my favourite films of 09.
Quote from: Shasvre on Mar 24, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
Chris Pine comments on the sequel.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613)
"After a thousand questions regarding the Star Trek sequel I can finally say I am holding the draft script in my hand. I can also now tell you I have a love interest and it's all looking very exciting. Sorry but I cant give you a date for filming yet, but you guys are going to love it!"
YEEEEEEEEEAAAH!
I FEEL
GLORIOUS!
Quote from: Shasvre on Mar 24, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
Chris Pine comments on the sequel.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613)
"After a thousand questions regarding the Star Trek sequel I can finally say I am holding the draft script in my hand. I can also now tell you I have a love interest and it's all looking very exciting. Sorry but I cant give you a date for filming yet, but you guys are going to love it!"
Sweet. I hope his love interest is that one native chick from the Original Series. That would be trippy.
Quote from: Shasvre on Mar 24, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
Chris Pine comments on the sequel.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=32613)
"After a thousand questions regarding the Star Trek sequel I can finally say I am holding the draft script in my hand. I can also now tell you I have a love interest and it's all looking very exciting. Sorry but I cant give you a date for filming yet, but you guys are going to love it!"
Should be fun. Trek '09 was a blast. :)
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Mar 25, 2011, 03:04:58 AM
Sweet. I hope his love interest is that one native chick from the Original Series. That would be trippy.
You do realize that His Kirkness banged at least 50 native chicks
that we saw in TOS, with God knows how many in-between episodes.
The man had more space-hoes than God.
(And what did God need with a starship anyway?)
I think it's best to forget about The Final Frontier. Not the best film in the series. :D
The even-numbered movies are good, the odd-numbered ones suck. Hopefully this one breaks the pattern.
That really doesn't hold true all the way down the line.
1 - crap
2 - great
3 - ok
4 - great
5 - crap
6 - great
7 - crap
8 - great
9 - pretty good
10 - crap
11 - great
So the 09 one is actually where they broke the cycle.
Eh.
I must be one of the only people around that liked Generations.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 25, 2011, 08:51:20 PM
I must be one of the only people around that liked Generations.
You're not alone mate. It was fun seeing Kirk show up, despite the bizarre circumstances around his plot thread. And Malcolm McDowell as the villain, who better?
Loved,
First Contact. I am not much of a Next Generation fan but enjoyed those two films greatly. :)
I get Kirk's death sucked. But other than that...I enjoyed it. Loved seeing the Ent-B. In my older years I find TNG a bit too 90s but...it was made in the 90s but I loved it growing up. FC will always be my 2nd favorite Trek movie. You ever read the original draft? Talk about over-doing it. They really toned it down and made FC great.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 25, 2011, 08:51:20 PM
I must be one of the only people around that liked Generations.
Its a flawed movie to be sure, but I like it quite a bit myself.
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Mar 25, 2011, 06:36:01 PM
That really doesn't hold true all the way down the line.
1 - crap
2 - great
3 - ok
4 - great
5 - crap
6 - great
7 - crap
8 - great
9 - pretty good
10 - crap
11 - great
So the 09 one is actually where they broke the cycle.
none of them were really crap in my opinion, and i still can't say that voyage home was "great" i still don't get how people can hate the first one, it's beautiful, even if it is way too long and kind boring, it holds merit as a visual masterpiece.
Self indulgent SFX reel. Although I did find Vger interesting.
I agree about the first one. It being long, but visually it was great. There's a nice Darth Vader cameo in it as well. The Final Frontier was just awful. Spock's brother was a tad goofy. Not sure if that was the intent of the character, but it made for a lousy Trek film in my opinion.
Quote from: AvatarIII on Mar 25, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
and i still can't say that voyage home was "great"
Dude, Voyage Home was the
best.
it's good, but i dunno, it's cheesy, kirk has a love interest way too young for him, spock talks to whales, it's kind of in your face conservationist agenda, no thanks.
If it breaths and has some sort of entry way, it's just right for Kirk.
Not Trek but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREXZNucJmY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREXZNucJmY#ws)
My God...he is Kirk.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 25, 2011, 10:01:40 PM
If it breaths and has some sort of entry way, it's just right for Kirk.
Not Trek but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREXZNucJmY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREXZNucJmY#ws)
My God...he is Kirk.
it's more my point that she goes for him.
I'd sleep with Shatner. Wouldn't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0#)
Personally, being the unrepentant Trekkie I am, I enjoy each and every one of the Trek films - however, I recognize that some of them are flawed/simply not well made. Generations is probably the least offender. It was the first Trek film I saw in the theater, and so it always has kind of a special place for me there. The plot is just so idiotic, though. Plus, its coming off of the absolutely brilliant All Good Things... which makes it seem like a really poor sendoff to the show.
Bob Orci talks about the sequel.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperPoweredNews/news/?a=34625 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperPoweredNews/news/?a=34625)
"Everyone said [Kirk] is too young to become Captain," he explains, So maybe in the next movie, somebody goes, 'Man, you sure became Captain young and fast.' You start to incorporate people's opinions... If it's organic to the story and you find someone who doesn't think too highly of Kirk because he maybe skipped a few steps, that's maybe a fun thing to consider. That comes from a fan reaction and maybe gives you a story point."
"[Fans] wanted more character time with everybody," he adds, "and, because that was an origin story for 'Star Trek,' everyone had to come in at a certain point. Now everyone is going to be there from the beginning, so they're going to get that. Everyone sure hated engineering. They thought it looked like a brewery, which it was. I'll pass that on to J.J. [Abrams] and see what he says."
"We'll be working and tweaking that story through shooting," he says, "This time we don't have a strike, so we'll actually be able to change things on the set. On the last movie, we handed in the script and that was it. You couldn't change a word. This one feels like we've got all the time in the world."
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 25, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
I'd sleep with Shatner. Wouldn't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0#)
With that voice you'd be a liar to say that you wouldn't.
Generations had some interesting stuff, but one has to wonder when Shatner is the best thing in it and he's not really in it that much. His death was pretty meaningless too in the grand scheme of things. His first death on the Enterprise B packed more punch. All the Next Gen flicks (aside from First Contact) were rather weak.
Final Frontier is under-rated in terms of the Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic, which is on fire in this flick. But because of budget cuts and writers strikes, it left us with a pretty average flick.
TMP had a fantastic concept, but it clearly wasn't stong enough to sustain an entire film.
And Voyage Home is probably the best in terms of giving everyone something to do, which most other films couldn't achieve. Especially the Next Gen flick which focused on Picard and Data. Plus IV had some genuninely funny stuff in it.
QuoteEveryone sure hated engineering.
With good reason. Didn't look anything like a spaceship. And they could've fixed simply with some grated floor tiles.
J.J. Abrams talks sequel.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=36734 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=36734)
"Damon is working on the script for this one. As busy as I've been with Super 8, I remember that when we did the first one, Damon was that busy with Lost. So it's going to be very cool to have him on board as a writer. There are some amazing ideas. These are not just great friends of mine, but they're great writers. I'm thrilled and very optimistic that it's going to get to where it needs to get to."
"The truth is that my focus has been so much on finishing Super 8 that it's been something I'm looking forward to getting to, but with an incredibly compressed post schedule, there hasn't been a whole lot of time for me to be working with the writers. Now that Super 8 is drawing to a close in terms of this post schedule, I'm looking forward to jumping in and hopefully getting that ready as soon as possible."
I wonder who the main villain is going to be since I remember reading rumors of Khan appearing in the sequel before over a year ago?
Is Abrams directing after all? I hope so.
http://www.slashfilm.com/jj-abrams-officially-signs-star-trek-2-director/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/jj-abrams-officially-signs-star-trek-2-director/)
2013 release incoming :'(
Ah, damnit.
Oh well, as long as it gets made.
I don't understand what has been taking so long for this movie to come out?
J.J. Abrams Finally Commits to Directing STAR TREK 2; Shooting to Begin This Winter
In what is probably one of the most non-surprising news bits in recent history, J.J. Abrams has officially committed to directing Star Trek 2. It's been widely assumed for some time that Abrams would return to helm the sequel to his 2009 blockbuster. However, several delays eventually led Paramount to replace Star Trek 2 with G.I. Joe 2: Retaliation in its June 29th, 2012 release slot and the director told us back in August that he wouldn't officially sign on until "everything was in place."
Apparently, that time has come as Vulture reports that said delays are now a thing of the past now that co-writer Alex Kurtman has completed work on his directorial debut, DreamWorks' Welcome to People. Per the report, Abrams and co. are now ready to focus on Trek 2 and are looking to begin shooting the much-anticipated pic this winter. Now that everything is "official," Trek fans can finally get back to worrying less about who will direct and more about how they'll be able to cope with "Average Joe Off the Street" enjoying their beloved franchise.
http://collider.com/jj-abrams-star-trek-2/114706/ (http://collider.com/jj-abrams-star-trek-2/114706/)
About damn time.
Why this movie was not immediately rushed into production upon the huge success of the original is a thing that shall forever confound my tender little mind.
Exactly........hope they havent left this too late.....is there a working script/storyline?
My phaser is ready.
Mine has only two settings; off and vapourize.
I read there is a script that will be completed by the end of this month. I think they've put a lot of work into the script and Abrams wouldn't commit to it unless he was satisfied with the story.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Sep 14, 2011, 02:08:15 PM
Mine has only two settings; off and vapourize.
Ever get any complaints from the ladies?
Cant wait for this movie...I loved the first one.
It's too bad that we are not seeing this movie next year since next year is going to be the 30th anniversary of Wrath of Khan and having him in the sequel would have been great.
I actually really don't want Khan in the sequel. Or any sequel, for that matter. I want to see the new Enterprise tackle new stuff, not just rehash all the old stories, because, let's be honest - a modern version of Khan just wouldn't be the same.
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Sep 14, 2011, 03:10:17 AM
About damn time.
Why this movie was not immediately rushed into production upon the huge success of the original is a thing that shall forever confound my tender little mind.
agreed, i remember a time when Chris Pine turned down the Cap role because of his commitment to Star Trek :D
Looks like Benicio Del Toro will be offered the role as villain in this.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118045646 (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118045646)
This MUST happen!
Oh, f**k yeah. He'd be great.
he'd make a pretty good Klingon.
I've seen Star Trek (2009) lately and I must say while great-looking and with decent cast it epitomized limits of this kind of cinema...The plot was rather thin, and (I don't like quoting movie critics) to quote Ebert "the Gene Roddenberry years, when stories might play with questions of science, ideals or philosophy, have been replaced by stories reduced to loud and colorful action"...It was an enjoyable experience--3/5 from me, and it paved the way for future sequels without tainting them with ridiculousness all right, but there was something missing from the actual movie, but I hope it all become more fleshed out in future installments.
WTF, Star Trek was everything a summer blockbuster should be IMO. Aside from the underused villain. :P
I didn't say it wasn't! :) But yeah, I agree about villain, though in the end the storyline didn't have that much subplots, and certainly they involved very few characters.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Nov 09, 2011, 10:23:15 AM
WTF, Star Trek was everything a summer blockbuster should be IMO. Aside from the underused villain. :P
I originally did think Eric Bana's Nero was very underused, but I've came to appreciate how he is used in the film. If they had him in more and more, he might have been less as cool and awesome! I think he's in it enough! This is coming from somebody who moaned that he wasn't in it enough at first. HaHa.
I hoped they would recast Scotty, he just didn't feel like he'd become the Scotty we know. I just can't see the new Scotty ever being called The Miracle Worker.
QuoteI didn't say it wasn't! But yeah, I agree about villain, though in the end the storyline didn't have that much subplots, and certainly they involved very few characters.
Very few? Characters like Sulu and Uhura got a lot more to do in this than they used to in previous films. More to do than McCoy certainly.
Quote from: The Mercenary on Nov 11, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
I hoped they would recast Scotty, he just didn't feel like he'd become the Scotty we know. I just can't see the new Scotty ever being called The Miracle Worker.
But...
we're talking about Simon Pegg. He's awesome.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Nov 13, 2011, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Mercenary on Nov 11, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
I hoped they would recast Scotty, he just didn't feel like he'd become the Scotty we know. I just can't see the new Scotty ever being called The Miracle Worker.
But... we're talking about Simon Pegg. He's awesome.
I agree! Awesome!
The release date is May 17, 2013 and Michael Giacchino will return as composer.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/11/star-trek-3d-sequel-will-debut-may-17-2013/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/11/star-trek-3d-sequel-will-debut-may-17-2013/)
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=50240 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=50240)
Giacchino is the shit. Great news! :)
Alice Eve has joined the cast as well.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=50510 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=50510)
Robocop's Peter Weller Joins The Cast Of Star Trek 2
http://enewsi.com/movies/190-21508.html (http://enewsi.com/movies/190-21508.html)
wow, that's random.
Benicio Del Toro Drops Out of STAR TREK 2; Villain May Be Khan After All
http://collider.com/benicio-del-toro-drops-out-star-trek-sequel/130440/ (http://collider.com/benicio-del-toro-drops-out-star-trek-sequel/130440/)
Well damn, he would have been a great villain.
Slightly off topic re: Peter Weller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_ixer1-5M#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_ixer1-5M#ws)
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 06, 2011, 02:10:59 AM
Benicio Del Toro Drops Out of STAR TREK 2; Villain May Be Khan After All
http://collider.com/benicio-del-toro-drops-out-star-trek-sequel/130440/ (http://collider.com/benicio-del-toro-drops-out-star-trek-sequel/130440/)
Well damn, he would have been a great villain.
Why not try to craft a story that's original? I don't understand the need to recreate or reboot what's come before. Is it that hard to write an original Trek yarn? Sheesh.
Re-doing Wrath of Khan would be a cheap copout. Why not redo some of the weaker plots like Final Frontier or Insurrection?
If they do Khan it'll most likely be a revisit to the episode Space Seed
Quote from: genocyber on Dec 06, 2011, 06:58:22 AM
If they do Khan it'll most likely be a revisit to the episode Space Seed
This! Wonder how they'll spin that particular episode for a new tale...
I'd like for Star Trek to take a more darker route and delve into lovecraftian horror from beyond the stars.
Except then it'd have to do what every movie does in that scenario, and let the good guys win. That's not very Lovecraftian....kinda, sorta.
Although I kinda agree.
Ext. space
A green, gelatinous unspeakable tentacled shadow approaches the Enterprise.
KIRK
lolwatsthis
The shadow comes into detail.
Its pulpy, tentacled head watches silently the spaceship.
UHURA
Oshit
The shadow reveals itself as Cthulhu.
It SMASHES the Enterprise in half with the single effort of one hand.
Smash to Black:
THE END
I don't think the Big C would even notice the Enterprise. He'd likely swat it and destroy it accidently while he was going to pick his nose.
Edgar Ramirez or Jordi Molla to play the villain?
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http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=50838 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=50838)
It seems like they're trying to get a Hispanic/Latino actor for a villain, maybe they visit a world full of Mexicans. Enterprise vs Illegal Aliens.
villain rumour!
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=51528 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=51528)
Star Trek 2 will shoot in 2D, be post-converted, may shoot partially in IMAX?
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/star-trek-2-will-shoot-in-2d (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/star-trek-2-will-shoot-in-2d)
Huh, I honestly was expecting him to shoot it in 3D.
Noel Clarke has been cast as well.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85639 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85639)
Benedict Cumberbatch Lands Villain Role in STAR TREK Sequel
http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/ (http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/)
Quote from: ace3g on Jan 05, 2012, 02:58:45 AM
Benedict Cumberbatch Lands Villain Role in STAR TREK Sequel
http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/ (http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/)
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Quote from: ace3g on Jan 05, 2012, 02:58:45 AM
Benedict Cumberbatch Lands Villain Role in STAR TREK Sequel
http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/ (http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/)
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN! With the roles in The Hobbit films and now THIS coming up, he's certainly about to get a
massive exposure boost. Very cool indeed.
He looks like an alien.
Quote from: ace3g on Jan 05, 2012, 02:58:45 AMBenedict Cumberbatch Lands Villain Role in STAR TREK Sequel
http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/ (http://collider.com/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek-2-villain/135407/)
!
Awesome. Absolutely awesome. :)
Grrreat. ;D
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 05, 2012, 06:09:09 AM
He looks like an alien.
I thought the same thing haha.
he'd make a great Vulcan, i'm thinking he'll be one of the few surviving Vulcans, it makes sense that they will play a major part in the sequel, after all their planet was destroyed.
^^^^Or a Romulan.
Romulans were in the first one,i would like to see the Remans in the next one.
Quote from: Effectz on Jan 05, 2012, 07:18:08 PM
Romulans were in the first one,i would like to see the Remans in the next one.
that would be kind of cool, but they were the villains in the last TNG ST movie.
Quote from: The Mercenary on Jan 05, 2012, 07:03:27 PM
^^^^Or a Romulan.
yeah, but a) they were done in the last movie, and b) why would they be the villains again? Vulcans at least have a reason to be pissed off.
Noel Clarke, Peter Weller and Benedict Cumberbatch = awesome
minor cast announcement
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=52377 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=52377)
Admiral Pike is expected to come back after being written into the sequel accordin to trekmovie.com
Joseph Gatt Joins The Cast Of STAR TREK Sequel
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=52481 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=52481)
Shooting has begun.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/6of13/news/?a=52744 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/6of13/news/?a=52744)
And a short comment from writer/producer Robero Orci.
QuoteI'll tell you this. There are some cool improvements to engine room!
Edit: First set photo.
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=53976 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=53976)
Great to see the Enterprise crew together again. Bones McCoy all the way. 8)
My body phaser is set to ready.
I still hope that they will give out on who the official villain is.
Spoiler
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http://www.slashfilm.com/glimpses-star-trek-2-reveal-villain-benedict-cumberbatch/?utm_source=Movie+Magic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashfilm+%28%2FFilm%29 (http://www.slashfilm.com/glimpses-star-trek-2-reveal-villain-benedict-cumberbatch/?utm_source=Movie+Magic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashfilm+%28%2FFilm%29)
Who thought they would ever see Spock beating up Sherlock Holmes? :D
Really looking forward to seeing him as the villain.
Edit: Some more set photos.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MovieMaster/news/?a=55264 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MovieMaster/news/?a=55264)
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This battle between Spock and Benedict Cumberbatch looks like it's going to be epic.
Yes! All the yes! All the win! More!
Quote from: Laufey on Feb 24, 2012, 10:22:35 PM
Who thought they would ever see Spock beating up Sherlock Holmes? :D
Really looking forward to seeing him as the villain.
Edit: Some more set photos.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MovieMaster/news/?a=55264 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MovieMaster/news/?a=55264)
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yes yes yes
some more photos
http://trekmovie.com/2012/02/24/more-photos-from-star-trek-set-imax-camera-spotted/ (http://trekmovie.com/2012/02/24/more-photos-from-star-trek-set-imax-camera-spotted/)
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=55427 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=55427)
Set Footage of that battle!
Looks like Spock is really the one getting beat!
I was so close to watching that, but not this time. For once, I will try to stay away from spoilers. ;D
Another set photo of Spock.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=58010 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=58010)
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It's been confirmed that Benedict Cumberbatch will play the role of
Spoiler
exiled Eugenics War leader Khan Noonien Singh.
and that the films plot will be reminiscent of
Spoiler
Star Trek's 1967 Season 1 episode Space Seed, where Kirk and his crew first meet Khan. As part of the climax of Star Trek 2, Kirk and Khan engage in a deep space brawl while decked out in high tech flying space suits.
Also Leonard Nimoy stated that he will in fact return to reprise his role as Spock.
Heh heh, I'm way more excited about Sherlock Season 3 than this....
Quote from: Rick Grimes on May 01, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
It's been confirmed that Benedict Cumberbatch will play the role of Spoiler
exiled Eugenics War leader Khan Noonien Singh.
Spoiler
Star Trek's 1967 Season 1 episode Space Seed, where Kirk and his crew first meet Khan. As part of the climax of Star Trek 2, Kirk and Khan engage in a deep space brawl while decked out in high tech flying space suits.
Spoiler
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Filming has finished, apparently: http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/05/09/zachary-quinto-star-trek-2-wrap/ (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/05/09/zachary-quinto-star-trek-2-wrap/)
Of course, there probably will be the usual re-shoots.
Nice. Maybe we'll even get a teaser at Comic Con then. :)
I'm still hella excited because, hey, MOAR STAWR TRECK, but I'm also quite disappointed that they're playing the Khan card.
It makes a certain amount of sense, as the studio is trying to capitalize on the household name-ness of certain aspects of Trek lore, and beyond using the central TOS characters in the first film, there's hardly a name more well-known than Khan to bring in Trek neophytes.
For once I actually stayed away from the spoiler tags, but it did not help. :(
Quote from: Laufey on May 10, 2012, 09:34:04 PM
For once I actually stayed away from the spoiler tags, but it did not help. :(
Yeah, were you waiting for the trailer cuz I'm sure the villain would be revealed by the trailer
I'll pretty much stick with the official stuff for this, that's why I haven't really read or looked at anything since the first set photos.
Nimoy says he didn't film anything for this.
Nolan North (the voice/mo-cap actor for Nathan Drake in the Uncharted games) is in the movie: http://www.vg247.com/2012/05/22/nolan-north-nabs-star-trek-2-cameo-thanks-to-uncharted/ (http://www.vg247.com/2012/05/22/nolan-north-nabs-star-trek-2-cameo-thanks-to-uncharted/)
STAR TREK 2: "Cupcake" Returns; Michael Dorn Discusses Almost Being Cast
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=60518 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=60518)
Simon Pegg says that Benedict Cumberbatch is
not playing...
Spoiler
...Khan.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=60621 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=60621)
Quote from: Laufey on May 29, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
Simon Pegg says that Benedict Cumberbatch is not playing...
Spoiler
...Khan.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=60621 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=60621)
i for one am relieved, although Khan would work, I feel something else would be better.
Quote from: AvatarIII on May 30, 2012, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: Laufey on May 29, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
Simon Pegg says that Benedict Cumberbatch is not playing...
Spoiler
...Khan.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=60621 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=60621)
i for one am relieved, although Khan would work, I feel something else would be better.
Yeah, I never felt like Khan was the best choice for the villain.
And it's really begging for people to pounce on the "white wash" issue.
Quote from: Ruadh on May 30, 2012, 04:16:34 PM
And it's really begging for people to pounce on the "white wash" issue.
why? Khan
was white, wasn't he? just tanned...
No, Khan was of Indian descent.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 31, 2012, 05:06:24 PM
No, Khan was of Indian descent.
the actor was Caucasian Mexican though.
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=31OS4dVUv3A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=31OS4dVUv3A)
That's pretty sweet for a fan teaser.
And if it's not a fan teaser, why in the hell is there footage from Alien Resurrection in it?
This is being released in IMAX 3D.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=61645 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=61645)
Quote from: Laufey on Jun 13, 2012, 07:03:37 PM
This is being released in IMAX 3D.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=61645 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=61645)
And that's how I'll see it ;D
Chris Pine and Alex Kurtzman talk about the movie: http://screenrant.com/chris-pine-alex-kurtzman-star-trek-2-story-villain-benm-184535/ (http://screenrant.com/chris-pine-alex-kurtzman-star-trek-2-story-villain-benm-184535/)
I gotta hunch Cumberland plays Spocks brother. That Teaser is SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
Quote from: robertmartin on Jul 04, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
I gotta hunch Cumberland plays Spocks brother. That Teaser is SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
Human brother? because he ain't got pointy ears in set photos.
my hunch was wrong. the cumberland...is clearly not his bro.
villain revealed!? (spoilers obvi.)
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/star-trek-2-villain-revealed/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/star-trek-2-villain-revealed/)
Makes sense and the theory has been thrown around before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZoJtpPLjzE&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZoJtpPLjzE&feature=player_embedded#)!
Posted via Karl Urban's youtube channel.
now now, there's actually 10 seconds at the end.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Jul 20, 2012, 08:43:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZoJtpPLjzE&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZoJtpPLjzE&feature=player_embedded#)!
Posted via Karl Urban's youtube channel.
now now, there's actually 10 seconds at the end.
Waste of time.
Gee thanks for that Karl.....
Better than a kick in the teeth I suppose.
Thanks for posting Mr SpaceJockey
I deeply apologize on my behalf!
Urban left us nothing but bones.
I still love Urban though.
New title to be Star Trek Into Darkness?
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=66935 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=66935)
Giant meh
Sounds fine to me,but why are people getting bent out of shape because it has no colon in the title...I mean seriously..you dont watch the title. I think people just love to whinge.
At least its not called Turn Off The Dark.
It sounds a bit cheesy but I'm not really bothered what it's called. Is there much we can glean about the movie itself from this title?
So we'll be trekking into darkness?
Meh choice like Dark of the Moon for TF3. But what matters is how good the movie itself is.
I think just calling it Star Trek 2 would have better. It's more simple and better to remember.
There's the issue of there already being a Star Trek II, though. Not to mention it's oft-considered one of the greatest sci-fi films ever made.
That movie had a sub title though, I doubt people will get confused. I also doubt most people outside the fan base even saw or know about it. I didn't see the other Trek movies until JJ's Star Trek movie came out.
I still haven't seen any Star Trek films, not even the new one...I know I should get on that soon. I've seen a few odd episodes of TOS and enjoyed them more than I thought I would.
Doesn't matter that there's a subtitle. The fact remains that a movie called Star Trek II already exists, and making another film with that title would just lead to completely unnecessary confusion.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 08, 2012, 09:03:10 PM
I still haven't seen any Star Trek films, not even the new one...I know I should get on that soon. I've seen a few odd episodes of TOS and enjoyed them more than I thought I would.
INSTANT LOSS OF RESPECT!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 08, 2012, 09:03:10 PM
I still haven't seen any Star Trek films, not even the new one...I know I should get on that soon. I've seen a few odd episodes of TOS and enjoyed them more than I thought I would.
I'm wasn't big on Star Trek but I
absoultely loved '09.
Quote from: Laufey on Sep 08, 2012, 05:53:29 AM
New title to be Star Trek Into Darkness?
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Quote from: SpaceMarines on Sep 08, 2012, 09:05:21 PM
Doesn't matter that there's a subtitle. The fact remains that a movie called Star Trek II already exists, and making another film with that title would just lead to completely unnecessary confusion.
Whilst I agree, don't most people simply refer to
Star Trek II as
Wrath of Khan? Or at least in my experience.
Usually, yeah.
Christ, I gotta rewatch these things soon. I saw a boxset of the first six movies on DVD going for pretty cheap a while back. Really tempted to pick that up.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 08, 2012, 09:03:10 PM
I still haven't seen any Star Trek films, not even the new one...I know I should get on that soon. I've seen a few odd episodes of TOS and enjoyed them more than I thought I would.
I think the Star Trek trilogy (Star Trek II - IV ) are worth checking. You don't need to see that much of the show to know what is going on. Star Trek: The Motion Picture is alright, they hardly mention or talk about the movie in any of the other films.
the motion picture sort of sets up the movie series. but 2-4 are like a trilogy. I say watch them all though :D
Star Trek V is viewed as the worst movie in the series but you can find enjoyment out of it since it's so bad. View it as you would do with Troll 2. I find Insurrection to be the worst. Such a boring and dull film, I can hardly sit through it.
The only thing about Star Trek that i've watched or had any interest in was the Re-make and Picard Gif's. :P
Also I don't really like Star Wars all that much either.
From what little I've seen of Star Trek, its so different from Star Wars that they can't even be compared. Star Wars (which I love) is more of a fantasy/mythological story in a sci-fi setting, while Star Trek is futuristic space exploration (based on the little bits of the show that I've seen, of course).
I do want to check out some more Trek stuff one of these days...
I've watched bits and pieces of all the series. I really like them all in different ways (yes, even Enterprise). It's a really fun series.
I really enjoy TNG since it's one of my favorite shows. I try to watch Enterprise and it was pretty bad.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Sep 09, 2012, 09:56:36 PM
I really enjoy TNG since it's one of my favorite shows. I try to watch Enterprise and it was pretty bad.
Man, I can't believe I belong to a qusai sci fi forum and you guys have never seen Star Trek, possibly the best sci fi ever done. Maybe its because the first couple years of each incarnation is painful? Like, the first couple seasons of STNG are just awful but it morphs into a show you just can't forget. Same goes for Enterprise, it got really REALLY good later in the seasons. I was crushed when it was canceled. I think after so many years of trek it needed a break.
You get fantastically written characters, fantastic actors, fantastic stories (for the most part) war, love, discovery. FFS I am almost jealous. I wish I had something as expansive as trek to stumble upon and never had seen it before. Honestly, you can skip the 60s era one and go right to TNG. If you're a new fan/person of interest the 60s one might be too hockey.
Seriously, wtf lol... GO WATCH SOME TREK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_HKdvNhgA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_HKdvNhgA#)
Seriously you all need to check it out... I grew up on TNG and I gotta say it was a little "meh" up until the end of season 3 -that "Best of both worlds" cliffhanger, one of the best. I think DS9 is my favorite series, recently introduced my wife to it and Voyager and she really liked DS9, Voyager was just ok for her, the characters just didnt start to grab her until season 5 or 6. I never got a chance to see Enterprise apart from a few episodes in seasons 1 and 2, which flat out did nothing for me, though Im willing to give it a full watch through, a few episodes is like reading 1 page of a novel at random, which doesnt reflect the entirety of the story.
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the franchise. I've just never watched it religiously.
I would love to get TOS on DVD or Blu, though. Always have a ton of fun with those things. Used to get up early ever summer morning just to watch those on TV.
Quote from: Njm1983 on Sep 10, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
I think DS9 is my favorite series
Yes..! So underrated...
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Quote from: Njm1983 on Sep 10, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
Seriously you all need to check it out... I grew up on TNG and I gotta say it was a little "meh" up until the end of season 3 -that "Best of both worlds" cliffhanger, one of the best.
Yeah. I'd say it got better before Best of Both Worlds but understand why you might pick then. That was the best cliff hanger in history lol.
Quote from: Njm1983 on Sep 10, 2012, 11:15:10 PMI think DS9 is my favorite series
yeah, DS9 suffered from the "first two years kinda blow" syndrome. Then you get the build up of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cVCjutQ8b4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cVCjutQ8b4#)
Quote from: Njm1983 on Sep 10, 2012, 11:15:10 PMrecently introduced my wife to it and Voyager and she really liked DS9, Voyager was just ok for her, the characters just didnt start to grab her until season 5 or 6.
Yeah, Voyager took a long time to get its chemistry. It also faced a lot of flak for its lack of continuity and de-fanging the ultimate sci fi bad ass: The Borg. Its either hated or loved. I think its OK. Probably my least favorite out the series. That said it had a few gems - Year of Hell was a really good (tiny) arch and really solidified Janeway as a fantastic captain and Kate as a hell of an actress.
Quote from: Njm1983 on Sep 10, 2012, 11:15:10 PMI never got a chance to see Enterprise apart from a few episodes in seasons 1 and 2, which flat out did nothing for me, though Im willing to give it a full watch through, a few episodes is like reading 1 page of a novel at random, which doesnt reflect the entirety of the story.
Yeah, I have to admit Enterprise was the first Trek show I actually abandoned. Simply put, I went back to it a few years later and it found its feet. The cast finally got its chemistry (except for wooded Mayflower... might as well had a toaster there) and the stories got really good. I enjoyed the xindi arch a lot. The mirror universe episode was done really well and the augments episodes with Brent Spinner as Noonian Soong explaining where Khan came from (basically) was very good as well. By then though, it was too late. They were just touching upon the Earth Romulan war which would have been an awesome story arch.
The only one I watched regularly was Voyager. I daresay I've watched most of TNG over the years and know the lore behind it, but I found a lot of it pretty dull and too PC. DS9 was mostly a schnooze.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Sep 11, 2012, 01:26:45 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the franchise. I've just never watched it religiously.
Same.
also same, TNG, then later DS9, and Voyager just happened to always be on in the evenings just after kids TV finished at 6pm when I was a kid, on the only channel (BBC2) that didn't have a 6'o'clock news, or some soap opera on (back before the advent of non stop kids TV, or easy access to dozens of channels) so I probably ended up watching most of the series like that, although I was a big enough fan by 1998 to see Insurrection at the cinema. but once Voyager finished my interest waned and by which point I was really into Stargate instead :D
Oh Stargate... how I miss you.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 12, 2012, 03:11:03 PM
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I think Voyager was the best of the franchise. It was set in a new part of the Galaxy so the writers had free reign to tackle new Alien species and create entirely new stories.
ToS is my second favourite because, well, it was the first one to set the tone of the entire series to come. Except of course when Rick Berman decided to shit all over everything with DS9...
I also like TNG because of the nostalgia. I grew up in the 90's, so it was pretty much the major Star Trek series I remember seeing parts of growing up. I also remember seeing stuff of DS9 and Voyager as well.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 13, 2012, 02:58:36 AM
I think Voyager was the best of the franchise. It was set in a new part of the Galaxy so the writers had free reign to tackle new Alien species and create entirely new stories.
ToS is my second favourite because, well, it was the first one to set the tone of the entire series to come. Except of course when Rick Berman decided to shit all over everything with DS9...
I saw some ToS the other night, and it's hard to go past Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley. Voyager was spotty until the Borg got more involved. I think Voyager would've been more interesting if there was more of a gradual progression in the characters and the ship. Many of the them seemed too similar at the end to who they were at the start, as did the ship. Would've been nice to see some degradation and make the ship look lived in. Like the Nostromo, with things that break and are dirty. I was just reading about Apollo 8 again recently and how the recovery divers almost threw up when they opened the hatch because the command module stank of urine, vomit and poo. Voyager and it's crew were a bit too pristine for spending 7 years without much time off or a refit.
I guess they wanted to keep it in the line with the "squeaky-clean" image of Star Trek and all. Voyager had some really amazing moments. Seeing Species 8472 bioships destroy and entire planet, or at the end of Equinox Part 1 when Janeway was almost mauled by one of the aliens (w/e they were called). Both sequences had my jaw on the floor.
As for ToS; indeed those three were at the centre of almost everything. But the others had their moments to shine. Doohan and Takei especially.
Too bad Star Trek '09 is the only Trek movie I saw on the big screen. I was too young when The Undiscovered Country, Generations and First Contact where released. I was aware of Insurrection and Nemesis when I was younger though.
Voyager ruined the franchise. Janeway was a huge bitch who passed up every opportunity to go home early just so she could fart around in the Delta Quadrant and put everyone at risk of the Borg because hrrr hrrr she's da captain!
Didn't care for Black Spock, or Q overstaying his welcome. They turned the Borg into a joke that can be easily outwitted and their ships blown up with a simple bomb. No longer were they the apocalyptic end all of the Star Trek universe. The episodes were terrible and slow, usually involving Janeway's own stupidity at putting their crew at risk with each new race they encounter that might not be so humble.
Also pissed off Janeway was made into an admiral and Picard who did alot more than her wasn't.
QuoteVoyager ruined the franchise. Janeway was a huge bitch who passed up every opportunity to go home early just so she could fart around in the Delta Quadrant and put everyone at risk of the Borg because hrrr hrrr she's da captain!
And putting them at the risk of the Borg is what eventually hrr hrrr got them home.
QuoteThey turned the Borg into a joke that can be easily outwitted and their ships blown up with a simple bomb.
Oh so she wasn't putting them at risk of the Borg after all then?
QuoteAlso pissed off Janeway was made into an admiral and Picard who did alot more than her wasn't.
Kirk - Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do *anything* that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
QuoteI guess they wanted to keep it in the line with the "squeaky-clean" image of Star Trek and all.
I know but they could've relaxed it a bit. They can still act like Starfleet, even if they don't quite look the part anymore.
Quote from: SM on Sep 13, 2012, 05:18:38 AM
QuoteVoyager ruined the franchise. Janeway was a huge bitch who passed up every opportunity to go home early just so she could fart around in the Delta Quadrant and put everyone at risk of the Borg because hrrr hrrr she's da captain!
And putting them at the risk of the Borg is what eventually hrr hrrr got them home.
Q offered many times to take them home and Janeway always said no. Bitch.
QuoteQuoteThey turned the Borg into a joke that can be easily outwitted and their ships blown up with a simple bomb.
Oh so she wasn't putting them at risk of the Borg after all then?
Regardless of how dumbed down they were, they still assimilated some of the crew.
QuoteQuoteAlso pissed off Janeway was made into an admiral and Picard who did alot more than her wasn't.
Kirk - Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do *anything* that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
I guess that's why Kirk never retired then--OH WAIT!
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You are familiar with the expression 'Speaking from experience', right?
Quote from: First Blood on Sep 12, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 12, 2012, 03:11:03 PM
Oh Stargate... how I miss you.
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Rest in piece Stargate Franchise (1994 - 2011)
Dug the film, could never get into the TV show. Just seemed like 'What planet featuring an ancient Earth culture are we visiting this week?'
Quote from: SM on Sep 13, 2012, 08:44:10 AM
Dug the film, could never get into the TV show. Just seemed like 'What planet featuring an ancient Earth culture are we visiting this week?'
early on sure, but it really found it's feet during seasons 2 and 3, most shows start off like that, things like Buffy and Smallville both relied on "freak of the week" style episodes early on, Fringe too, in fact ones that don't, generally don't do as well, because a show you can't switch onto one random episode, and not understand what's going on, generally ostracise potential viewers, only rewarding people that have been watching unerringly since the pilot.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 13, 2012, 02:58:36 AM
I think Voyager was the best of the franchise. It was set in a new part of the Galaxy so the writers had free reign to tackle new Alien species and create entirely new stories.
ToS is my second favourite because, well, it was the first one to set the tone of the entire series to come. Except of course when Rick Berman decided to shit all over everything with DS9...
Interesting. Rarely does someone claim that Voyager is the best. Like I mentioned before its a bit of a lightning rod with people. That said Berman (and Braga) is actually credited with killing Trek. He had little (creatively) to due with DS9. That was mostly Moore and Philler (personally) I would say.
Anyhoot. I can see why people wouldn't like DS9 as well, even though it could be my favorite. The first 2-3 year were so boring it hurt your soul. All treks were like that, you just had to get through the first years of "getting to their feet" like most shows have to do.
Quote from: genocyber on Sep 13, 2012, 05:08:52 AM
They turned the Borg into a joke that can be easily outwitted and their ships blown up with a simple bomb. No longer were they the apocalyptic end all of the Star Trek universe.
This is a lot of the flak they got from the fans (in part). Voyager completely de-fanged the Borg. They became a nearly unstoppable monolithic force that was utterly feared to a villain of the week. However to be fair, we went from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww#)
To having a queen. So, the start was First Contact.
I didn't mind the queen. It just didn't need to be in Voyager and they could have come up with something else to diversify them.
Still, to be fair that is where the change started.
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Voyager had a few good eps. 'Deathwish' and 'The Thaw' are great. Can't say I can think of any others. Disliked Janeway and Chuckles. The EMH, Tuvok and Paris were cool though.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 13, 2012, 09:31:18 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 13, 2012, 02:58:36 AM
I think Voyager was the best of the franchise. It was set in a new part of the Galaxy so the writers had free reign to tackle new Alien species and create entirely new stories.
ToS is my second favourite because, well, it was the first one to set the tone of the entire series to come. Except of course when Rick Berman decided to shit all over everything with DS9...
Interesting. Rarely does someone claim that Voyager is the best. Like I mentioned before its a bit of a lightning rod with people. That said Berman (and Braga) is actually credited with killing Trek. He had little (creatively) to due with DS9. That was mostly Moore and Philler (personally) I would say.
Anyhoot. I can see why people wouldn't like DS9 as well, even though it could be my favorite. The first 2-3 year were so boring it hurt your soul. All treks were like that, you just had to get through the first years of "getting to their feet" like most shows have to do.
DS9 was too dark for me, along with the stale setting; it was boring through and through. I didn't get that same sense of exploration that other Treks had.
Yeah, it was different but that was nice. For me, in large part of why I liked it so much was because of the war story. Not the pew pew aspect but the drama. I really enjoy good acting. The good stories (between the pew pew) and the enlargement of cultures and such. Once the relationships grew (from the snooze fest of the first couple of years) they were really enjoyable to watch.
Quote from: genocyber on Sep 13, 2012, 10:03:53 AM
I didn't mind the queen. It just didn't need to be in Voyager and they could have come up with something else to diversify them.
As much as I dug First Contact, I didn't really care for the Queen. Seemed to be at odds with the whole point of the Borg.
But then so did Locutus I guess...
Quoteearly on sure, but it really found it's feet during seasons 2 and 3, most shows start off like that, things like Buffy and Smallville both relied on "freak of the week" style episodes early on, Fringe too, in fact ones that don't, generally don't do as well, because a show you can't switch onto one random episode, and not understand what's going on, generally ostracise potential viewers, only rewarding people that have been watching unerringly since the pilot.
Shit like turns me off a lot of TV. I like watching stuff in order, which is often pointless anyway because many shows don't have an overarching storyline anyway and then you have to wade through a lot of mediocre stuff to get to the good stuff. And then they often cancel it without a conclusion.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 13, 2012, 08:12:54 PM
Yeah, it was different but that was nice. For me, in large part of why I liked it so much was because of the war story. Not the pew pew aspect but the drama. I really enjoy good acting. The good stories (between the pew pew) and the enlargement of cultures and such. Once the relationships grew (from the snooze fest of the first couple of years) they were really enjoyable to watch.
DS9 didn't seem to receive much attention until season 4, when Michael Dorn joined the cast. That whole inclusion seemed to serve as just that; draw in older fans who wren't jiving with the show.
DS9 was cool when there was honking big space battles.
And dull when there wasn't.
And appropriate you should mention that since I mentioned Worf's inclusion. The second part of the season premiere featured an incredible space battle; easily one of the best in the entire franchise. DS9 vs an entire Klingon armada. Hell, YES.
I always thought the get better marker was when Siko shaved his head, lol. I think you should give it another watch - not like there is much better on TV right now. And there were much better battles after that one. In particular Sacrifice of Angels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtj7PauX_I# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtj7PauX_I#)
That was pretty awesome, thanks. The Defiant struck me as an odd ship. It was supposed to be Starfleet's version of a warship, and yet, it never seemed to handle a beating well.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 14, 2012, 06:59:03 AM
That was pretty awesome, thanks. The Defiant struck me as an odd ship. It was supposed to be Starfleet's version of a warship, and yet, it never seemed to handle a beating well.
Oh it took its beatings well, but you must keep in mind it is a very very small ship.
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Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 11, 2012, 07:51:59 AM
yeah, DS9 suffered from the "first two years kinda blow" syndrome. Then you get the build up of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cVCjutQ8b4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cVCjutQ8b4#)
All of them sucked up until Season 3. And f**k me, I love The Undiscovered Country music in that trailer. I miss having new Trek to look forward to.
I hope we get a new series soon.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 14, 2012, 07:05:15 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 14, 2012, 06:59:03 AM
That was pretty awesome, thanks. The Defiant struck me as an odd ship. It was supposed to be Starfleet's version of a warship, and yet, it never seemed to handle a beating well.
Oh it took its beatings well, but you must keep in mind it is a very very small ship.
Thought I would add this in for a comparison.
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The Sovereign- and Prometheus-class vessels always, to me, seemed like the only two ST vessels that could dish out and take a lot of punishment. The latter especially was a nasty ship.
It's a shame we haven't seen more of them. Imagine a small wing of Sovereigns.
I've always been under the impression that whatever ship-class the Enterprise was, it was only one of its class that existed :P
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Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 14, 2012, 07:05:15 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 14, 2012, 06:59:03 AM
That was pretty awesome, thanks. The Defiant struck me as an odd ship. It was supposed to be Starfleet's version of a warship, and yet, it never seemed to handle a beating well.
Oh it took its beatings well, but you must keep in mind it is a very very small ship.
Thought I would add this in for a comparison.
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The Sovereign- and Prometheus-class vessels always, to me, seemed like the only two ST vessels that could dish out and take a lot of punishment. The latter especially was a nasty ship.
Not true, handsome. The Galaxy class has shown to take a hell of a lot of damage as well give out a lot of damage. It's the most efficient vessel the Federation has yet to make.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 18, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
I've always been under the impression that whatever ship-class the Enterprise was, it was only one of its class that existed :P
I remember reading some unwritten rule in one of the Okuda encyclopedias that the first in a class of ships named the class. So the first in the Sovereign class of ships (eg. Ent-E) would be the USS Sovereign. Similarly there would've been a USS Galaxy the same as the Enterprise-D, and the B was of course, Excelsior class.
I've heard/read the same thing. Problem is, with the exception of the Excelsior, we haven't seen a U.S.S Sovereign, Galaxy, and so on.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 19, 2012, 06:48:25 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 18, 2012, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 14, 2012, 07:05:15 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 14, 2012, 06:59:03 AM
That was pretty awesome, thanks. The Defiant struck me as an odd ship. It was supposed to be Starfleet's version of a warship, and yet, it never seemed to handle a beating well.
Oh it took its beatings well, but you must keep in mind it is a very very small ship.
Thought I would add this in for a comparison.
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The Sovereign- and Prometheus-class vessels always, to me, seemed like the only two ST vessels that could dish out and take a lot of punishment. The latter especially was a nasty ship.
Not true, handsome. The Galaxy class has shown to take a hell of a lot of damage as well give out a lot of damage. It's the most efficient vessel the Federation has yet to make.
You're thinking of TNG episode, Yesterday's Enterprise I take it?
No no, there are many many instances. I'm not sure how to answer you in the sense of giving a detailed answer or just say there are many more. I am a uber Star Trek fan and have belonged to many a ST website were we have go over entire scenes frame by frame to discuss points. Points such as these.
Ok, so Galaxy-, Sovereign-, Defiant-, and Prometheus-class vessels are certified to be able to dish out heavy punishment, and take it (though I still question the Defiant-class to an extent). I am also still under the impression that the majority of Federation vessels are rather feeble, especially when compared to alien vessels such as Klingon or Romulan ones.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 19, 2012, 07:27:24 PM
Ok, so Galaxy-, Sovereign-, Defiant-, and Prometheus-class vessels are certified to be able to dish out heavy punishment, and take it (though I still question the Defiant-class to an extent). I am also still under the impression that the majority of Federation vessels are rather feeble, especially when compared to alien vessels such as Klingon or Romulan ones.
Mmm, no Galaxy (in particular war refit) and Sovereign are greater than anything they have. D'Deridex is a massive and powerful ship, as well as the Klingon Negh'Var, but as a whole you couldn't call them (federation ships) feeble. Whar are you thinking of in particular that makes you think that?
I was thinking Vor'cha rather than Negh'Var. I'm not sure there's a Federation vessel aside from maybe a Sovereign that could go toe-to-toe with the latter.
I'm just thinking overall, in my experience with the ST franchise. We see these powerful alien vessels, whether they be Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, Ferengi, or whatever else that absolutely destroy everything in sight and a lot of times, in combat, Federation vessels seem to be struggling to keep up. It's as if Starfleet designed the latter 23rd century and early 24th century ships as designed primarily for exploration with weapons being an after-thought.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 19, 2012, 07:45:48 PM
I was thinking Vor'cha rather than Negh'Var. I'm not sure there's a Federation vessel aside from maybe a Sovereign that could go toe-to-toe with the latter.
The Vor Cha is no match for a Galaxy and the Negh was specifically created to try and counterbalance the power of the Galaxy class. The Galaxy class easily out gunned anything the Klingon empire had. Even still the it wouldn't be able to match the Galaxy. You have to keep in mind the Galaxy has the biggest weapons in the Federation.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 19, 2012, 07:45:48 PMI'm just thinking overall, in my experience with the ST franchise. We see these powerful alien vessels, whether they be Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, Ferengi, or whatever else that absolutely destroy everything in sight and a lot of times, in combat, Federation vessels seem to be struggling to keep up. It's as if Starfleet designed the latter 23rd century and early 24th century ships as designed primarily for exploration with weapons being an after-thought.
Mmm, no, in DS9 the Fed ships you see destroyed for the most part are ships that are 100+ years old. You have to look at the context of the picture, by the time the dominion war happens the Federation has gone through two major encounters with the borg and are hurting for ships. Ships that would never see battle were fitted best they could to just have numbers. While things like Galaxy classes (in particular Sacrifice of Angels) steam rolls the ships they come across.
The Federation actually makes the best ships in the Alpha quadrant, its just a matter of numbers. The premier capital ships such as Galaxys and cruiser type classes such as Sovereigns (and Akira class) aren't as plentiful since the Federation does have a major science role to fill.
Good point. I guess I should review my vessel breakdown, ha. Is there a database or something similar online that compares the different vessels?
MM, not in a direct way but you can get a lot of info here: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Portal:Main (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Portal:Main)
Damn...would love to nerd out with you guys, but my knowledge of Star Trek lore is weak...
Reading this has been fun though...
So start reading. May I recommend the following? (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Encyclopedia-Michael-Okuda/dp/B001OW5OMM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348263291&sr=8-1&keywords=star+trek+encyclopedia)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 09:35:24 PM
So start reading. May I recommend the following? (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Encyclopedia-Michael-Okuda/dp/B001OW5OMM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348263291&sr=8-1&keywords=star+trek+encyclopedia)
Heck yes.My older had that book. It was
awesome. Quick question, though. Is there a version with up to date material?
Nope, that was the last one written, unfortunately. I wouldn't expect another one anytime soon, if ever.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 09:35:24 PM
So start reading. May I recommend the following? (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Encyclopedia-Michael-Okuda/dp/B001OW5OMM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348263291&sr=8-1&keywords=star+trek+encyclopedia)
Eh, its not the best source of info out there. The wiki explains it best.
"In the time since its last publication, the Encyclopedia has become extremely out of date, with much of the
conjectural, non-canonical information contained within it having been contradicted by the last two Star Trek films (Star Trek Nemesis and Star Trek) as well as the last two seasons of Star Trek: Voyager and the most recent series, Star Trek: Enterprise. There are currently no plans to release an updated version of the Encyclopedia, as its usefulness has been greatly superseded in recent years by online, digital resources such as Memory Alpha."
Conjecture is fine (when based on canon evidence) in large part but it substitutes a lot of facts for "wtf" instances. Its an OK read but there are a plethora of mistakes in it.
It's good for quick references though. I personally don't count Enterprise within Star Trek purely because I can't stand it so that doesn't bug me.
The defiant destroyed more enemy ships in the last 2 seasons of DS9 than the Enterprise D did in seven seasons of TNG.
Since it was about 1/20th the size of the Galaxy class couldn't they have built tonnes of them. The Defiant ate up Birds of Prey and Dominion Attack ships like the Falcon ate up Tie Fighters!
Imagine if they had made a defiant class type ship but only bigger maybe twice the size of the Defiant or even bigger maybe about half the size of a galaxy class ship that would be something to scare the other mnajor powers in the area. Plus no bloody families on board!
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 11:19:42 PM
It's good for quick references though.
Fair enough if you don't mind inaccurate data. Just depends on what you're looking for.
Quote from: HappyAlien on Sep 22, 2012, 04:15:43 AM
The defiant destroyed more enemy ships in the last 2 seasons of DS9 than the Enterprise D did in seven seasons of TNG.
Since it was about 1/20th the size of the Galaxy class couldn't they have built tonnes of them. The Defiant ate up Birds of Prey and Dominion Attack ships like the Falcon ate up Tie Fighters!
Different scenarios. DS9 is set in war, STNG is not. That said the Galaxy class is a superior vessel is every aspect but far more resource intensive. She's a pocket battleship. Small but tough. Her small frame is detrimental though in a long fight. Although her hull is super thick (two foot), because she is so small its much easier to get to primary systems and thusly put her down that much easier. Evident when she fought an upgraded and aging Lakota class starship.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 11:19:42 PMImagine if they had made a defiant class type ship but only bigger maybe twice the size of the Defiant or even bigger maybe about half the size of a galaxy class ship that would be something to scare the other mnajor powers in the area. Plus no bloody families on board!
Starfleet isn't in the business of war. Soooooooo, yeah :)
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 22, 2012, 06:47:35 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 11:19:42 PM
It's good for quick references though.
Fair enough if you don't mind inaccurate data. Just depends on what you're looking for.
Quote from: HappyAlien on Sep 22, 2012, 04:15:43 AM
The defiant destroyed more enemy ships in the last 2 seasons of DS9 than the Enterprise D did in seven seasons of TNG.
Since it was about 1/20th the size of the Galaxy class couldn't they have built tonnes of them. The Defiant ate up Birds of Prey and Dominion Attack ships like the Falcon ate up Tie Fighters!
Different scenarios. DS9 is set in war, STNG is not. That said the Galaxy class is a superior vessel is every aspect but far more resource intensive. She's a pocket battleship. Small but tough. Her small frame is detrimental though in a long fight. Although her hull is super thick (two foot), because she is so small its much easier to get to primary systems and thusly put her down that much easier. Evident when she fought an upgraded and aging Lakota class starship.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 11:19:42 PMImagine if they had made a defiant class type ship but only bigger maybe twice the size of the Defiant or even bigger maybe about half the size of a galaxy class ship that would be something to scare the other mnajor powers in the area. Plus no bloody families on board!
Starfleet isn't in the business of war. Soooooooo, yeah :)
Starfleet should have learnt from the Klingons, Romulans, Borg and other races that have tried to destroy them. Instead of building all these science vessels and exploring ships. They were lucky that the rest of the Dominion was trapped on the other side of the wormhole because they were getting their asses kicked by a Dominion Expeditionary force before the Romulans joined in.
I still can't fathom how a Federation (allied with Klingons) with hundreds of billions of citizens and thousands of planets can be slower at producing new ships and troops than the Dominion force trapped in Cardasian space. Where did all those Dominion factories come from. Imagine how quickly it would have enede if the Wormhole wasnt's mined or closed.
Too many federation ships were cannon fodder against the Dominion and a Galaxy class ship was pretty easily destroyed by a couple of those small dominion attack ships. Also in TNG the enterprise D seemed to run anto a random enemy ship every three to four episodes that was a match for it or even more powerful. The Federation always acted so weak in TNG. Loved how they got tougher in DS9 how sisko did underhanded things to win the war and the introduction of Section 31 (hope they are in the new movie!)
Quote from: HappyAlien on Sep 22, 2012, 09:08:33 AM
Starfleet should have learnt from the Klingons, Romulans, Borg and other races that have tried to destroy them. Instead of building all these science vessels and exploring ships. They were lucky that the rest of the Dominion was trapped on the other side of the wormhole because they were getting their asses kicked by a Dominion Expeditionary force before the Romulans joined in.
The Klingons could not match the Federation nor could the Romulans. The Romulans in particular, if they felt they could have overthrown the Federation (for brevity sake) would have taken that opportunity if it was so easy. The Federation wasn't weak by any means. That said you have to keep in mind as well the Federation had just came out of a 20 year war with the Cardasians along with another species I can't spell. (I'll look it up if you need to). Fact is, the Federation was the most powerful entity in the Alpha quadrant even after all that.
As for the Borg that hardly counts. Who can prepare for the Borg unless you totally defang them like the writers of Voyager did.
Quote from: HappyAlien on Sep 22, 2012, 09:08:33 AMI still can't fathom how a Federation (allied with Klingons) with hundreds of billions of citizens and thousands of planets can be slower at producing new ships and troops than the Dominion force trapped in Cardasian space. Where did all those Dominion factories come from. Imagine how quickly it would have enede if the Wormhole wasnt's mined or closed.
The Dominion is an army of clones that have been in the business of war, conquering and policing their empire for 2000 years. It fits they have this way of life down to a T.
Quote from: HappyAlien on Sep 22, 2012, 09:08:33 AMToo many federation ships were cannon fodder against the Dominion and a Galaxy class ship was pretty easily destroyed by a couple of those small dominion attack ships. Also in TNG the enterprise D seemed to run anto a random enemy ship every three to four episodes that was a match for it or even more powerful. The Federation always acted so weak in TNG. Loved how they got tougher in DS9 how sisko did underhanded things to win the war and the introduction of Section 31 (hope they are in the new movie!)
Easily destroyed? In what instance? I have never seen a Galaxy class starship easily destroyed except for the ultimate example of PiS when Ricker suddenly became retarded in Generations. As for other ships being cannon fodder that is true to an extent. Many ships in battle were 100 year old ships that had no place being on the front line. That said, given the circumstances they had no choice.
In an epsiode of Deep Space 9 a small dominion ship just rammed a galaxy class ship and destroyed it. The point is the Federation could have been better prepared for the Dominion and had more warships instead of science vessels.
Lucky they had Sisko, Section 31 and the prophets!
Quote from: HappyAlien on Sep 22, 2012, 09:53:47 AM
In an epsiode of Deep Space 9 a small dominion ship just rammed a galaxy class ship and destroyed it. The point is the Federation could have been better prepared for the Dominion and had more warships instead of science vessels.
Lucky they had Sisko, Section 31 and the prophets!
You mean where it sustained fire for
10 minutes from 3 bug ships (on screen so it could have actually been more) with no shields, staying in the fire fight (before the Federation figured out how to counteract Dominion shield technology) and was able to head home before being rammed? As for the ramming, that also illustrated how much incredible fortitude the Galaxy class had. Other instances of Dominion ships ramming vessels Klingon vessels like BoP get totally obliterated and ships as large and armored as Vor Cha class get split in half like a machete hitting a watermelon.
When the Oddesy is hit she takes a death blow to the engineering section. But before shes blows and you look at the damage, very little of the ship is destroyed in comparison to what happens to Klingon ships as big as Vor Cha's. Again, showing just how well built the superstructure is of the Galaxy class.
As for better prepared how much better prepared can you be for a sneak attack when you are the most dominant power in the Alpha quadrant when your mission parameters are discovery?
JJ Abrams is on Conan tonight and while he couldn't bring a full clip, he did bring 3 frames of a clip; he usually post the segments on his YT show later on so I can get a better screen cap without the play symbol and in HD, this was through his main site with another video player.
JJ said "without going into details Spock is in a volcano"
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I kept hitting that play button thinking it will show the clip.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Oct 05, 2012, 03:16:15 AM
I kept hitting that play button thinking it will show the clip.
I did exactly the same thing. :D
Oh goody... a trek vessel discussion weeeee....
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Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 22, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
As for the Borg that hardly counts. Who can prepare for the Borg unless you totally defang them like the writers of Voyager did.
Species 8472
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2012, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 22, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
As for the Borg that hardly counts. Who can prepare for the Borg unless you totally defang them like the writers of Voyager did.
Species 8472
I think they come under the "defanged by Voyager" argument
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 05, 2012, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2012, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 22, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
As for the Borg that hardly counts. Who can prepare for the Borg unless you totally defang them like the writers of Voyager did.
Species 8472
I think they come under the "defanged by Voyager" argument
BINGO
the problem with Star Trek is that it is inherently optimistic by design and intent. You can't bring in a species like The Borg, and not eventually be forced to find a way to defeat them, since they are impossible to reason with.
Well, yes and no. Yes in the sense you're talking about - no in the sense of they should have remained the juggernaut of the universe that you never know when is going to come stomping and romping the block. Rather, VOY used them as a creature of the week and changed them from the monolithic force into a "meh" alien for a cheap thrill to push the show along.
It backfired in a big way. Even (most)VOY fans don't like what they did with the borg.
the thing is, once the Borg knew the Federation existed, why would they ever stop trying to assimilate them? they were a great addition to the series, but had they not been nerfed, the entire Trek Universe would have every non-Borg species just putting all their resources into hiding from, and surviving the Borg.
to be honest, i think the Borg mentality was used much better in Stargate with the Replicators.
It simply wasn't important enough or they would have sent more cubes is the easiest way to deal with that. There were several instances mentioned where many many cubes were sent to assimilate species. It simply could have played out by the time the Borg truly made a vested interest in the Federation, they would have been ready.
Thats funny you should mention them - I truly love Stargate but I just didn't like the Replicators.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Oct 05, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 05, 2012, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2012, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 22, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
As for the Borg that hardly counts. Who can prepare for the Borg unless you totally defang them like the writers of Voyager did.
Species 8472
I think they come under the "defanged by Voyager" argument
BINGO
What's wrong with having a species that can destroy the Borg? Don't forget too that Species 8472 in Part 1 of "Scorpion" were revealed to have launched a thousand bio-ships to "cleanse out the galaxy". The Northwest Passage, remember?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2012, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Oct 05, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 05, 2012, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2012, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 22, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
As for the Borg that hardly counts. Who can prepare for the Borg unless you totally defang them like the writers of Voyager did.
Species 8472
I think they come under the "defanged by Voyager" argument
BINGO
What's wrong with having a species that can destroy the Borg? Don't forget too that Species 8472 in Part 1 of "Scorpion" were revealed to have launched a thousand bio-ships to "cleanse out the galaxy". The Northwest Passage, remember?
Species 8472 was pretty sweet I thought.
I like Voyager........................
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2012, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Oct 05, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 05, 2012, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2012, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Sep 22, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
As for the Borg that hardly counts. Who can prepare for the Borg unless you totally defang them like the writers of Voyager did.
Species 8472
I think they come under the "defanged by Voyager" argument
BINGO
What's wrong with having a species that can destroy the Borg? Don't forget too that Species 8472 in Part 1 of "Scorpion" were revealed to have launched a thousand bio-ships to "cleanse out the galaxy". The Northwest Passage, remember?
They didn't just destroy the Borg, they obliterated them effortlessly and it was used as a plot device to push a failing show along. On top of that they wanted to eradicate all life in the galaxy (and were filled with malevolence apparently) and then the next time you see species8472 (in mass) they're reasonable and somewhat lovable.
If you like stilted writing more power to you.
8472 was a plot device. The opening of scorpion was designed to draw you in with that 1 shot kill of the Borg cubes. By the end of the episode voyager had taken a hit from a bioship and it didn't even penetrate their shields. Voyager got tossed and internal consoles ruptured but that's it.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Oct 05, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
It simply wasn't important enough or they would have sent more cubes is the easiest way to deal with that. There were several instances mentioned where many many cubes were sent to assimilate species. It simply could have played out by the time the Borg truly made a vested interest in the Federation, they would have been ready.
Thats funny you should mention them - I truly love Stargate but I just didn't like the Replicators.
each to their own, because I loved the replicators. although there's not a lot about the first 8 seasons of SG1 that I didn't love.
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 06, 2012, 05:35:18 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Oct 05, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
It simply wasn't important enough or they would have sent more cubes is the easiest way to deal with that. There were several instances mentioned where many many cubes were sent to assimilate species. It simply could have played out by the time the Borg truly made a vested interest in the Federation, they would have been ready.
Thats funny you should mention them - I truly love Stargate but I just didn't like the Replicators.
each to their own, because I loved the replicators. although there's not a lot about the first 8 seasons of SG1 that I didn't love.
What did you think of Universe? I hate it so much it actually makes me a little angry.
I thought it was ok actually, it had a lot of missed potential, but I liked some of the characters and the ship itself was cool.
I hated everything about it but those negative feelings were compounded by the fact they canceled Atlantis for it (a show with good ratings) and in the end were forced to cancel the planned SG1/Atlantis movies. Unforgivable.
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that's not true actually, Atlantis was not canceled to make room for SGU, and had SGU got better ratings, the Atlantis movie would have happened, so if your going to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't watch SGU.
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/01/why-was-stargate-atlantis-cancelled/ (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/01/why-was-stargate-atlantis-cancelled/)
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2010/12/atlantis-movie-shelved-indefinitely/ (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2010/12/atlantis-movie-shelved-indefinitely/)
it didn't help that MGM went bankrupt either, but that's nothing to do with Stargate
Quote from: AvatarIII on Oct 06, 2012, 09:08:53 PM
that's not true actually, Atlantis was not canceled to make room for SGU, and had SGU got better ratings, the Atlantis movie would have happened, so if your going to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't watch SGU.
if I remember rightly it was explained on Joseph Mallozzi's blog.
You just opened up (or rather cracked) a can of worms. Yes, the famous blog (and twitter tweets) that floated around gateworld and other such sites. To sum it up, people were screaming the walls down because they saw it (myself included) as lies.
If you're interested you could probably look it up in two seconds. There were hundreds of hundreds of forum post about his lies and how people perceived them. Hell, people still post about it on gateworld time to time.
Anyhoot, personally I think the guy is a snake and stand by my previous post. They thought they could make a better BSG and it blew up in their face forever dooming Stargate.
EDIT:
Oh, you frequent Gateworld? Then you understand my point of view, regardless if you agree with it or not. Good to see another diehard Stargate fan.
I was a forum regular on GateWorld for quite a while. :) thanks for the information though, I never realised he was like that.
Well, a lot of people see it as such, you might see it differently if you got bored enough to rehash it all.
Heather Langenkamp is gonna have a small role in this! ;D
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Not sure if this has been posted before, article a month old but I've only just read it.
Shouldn't be a High Chancellor at his age?
I wonder if this is official because I remember something along the lines of he will never be able to obtain the rank of captain from his record.
Well he's the right hand man of the new Chancellor (Martok) by teh end of DS9 I think. i doubt he'd outright leave Starfleet though, but long career breaks and trips to the Empire he seems to take regularly in TNG & DS9.
Can't remember the ban from Captain rank though I do remember Picard putting a mark on his record. The writers could easily ignore something along those lines though.
I'm interested how likely this actually is and how it fits in with the new movies. I don't see any reason why it couldn't happen just because of teh movies.
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Oct 25, 2012, 09:09:55 PM
Well he's the right hand man of the new Chancellor (Martok) by teh end of DS9 I think. i doubt he'd outright leave Starfleet though, but long career breaks and trips to the Empire he seems to take regularly in TNG & DS9.
Can't remember the ban from Captain rank though I do remember Picard putting a mark on his record. The writers could easily ignore something along those lines though.
I'm interested how likely this actually is and how it fits in with the new movies. I don't see any reason why it couldn't happen just because of teh movies.
It was something in DS9 when he disobeyed orders to rescue Jadzia and their spy they were suppose to collected was left to die. I can't remember exactly... I should look it up.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Oct 25, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Oct 25, 2012, 09:09:55 PM
Well he's the right hand man of the new Chancellor (Martok) by teh end of DS9 I think. i doubt he'd outright leave Starfleet though, but long career breaks and trips to the Empire he seems to take regularly in TNG & DS9.
Can't remember the ban from Captain rank though I do remember Picard putting a mark on his record. The writers could easily ignore something along those lines though.
I'm interested how likely this actually is and how it fits in with the new movies. I don't see any reason why it couldn't happen just because of teh movies.
It was something in DS9 when he disobeyed orders to rescue Jadzia and their spy they were suppose to collected was left to die. I can't remember exactly... I should look it up.
Ah right I vaguely remember that.
I found it. It's not adamant (that he wouldn't) but its pretty damning. Anyway be damned with that, I would kill for another Star Trek set in the prime universe.
Back on Deep Space 9, Dax gets the health care she needs. However, things do not go as well for her husband: his actions have led to Lasaran's death. Captain Sisko demands an explanation, and Worf tells him that as he went further and further into the jungle, he knew that he there was no way he could leave his wife behind, even though the intelligence that Starfleet has lost could have saved millions of lives. Captain Sisko tells Worf that the secrecy of the operation and Starfleet's desire to keep their intelligence activities under wraps will save him a court martial, but there will be a permanent note in his service record. As a result, Worf will almost certainly never be offered a command of his own after the incident. Sisko also issues orders that Worf and Dax are to be never sent on a mission alone again. However, off the record the Captain tells Worf that as a man who once had a wife, that if it had been Jennifer lying there in the jungle, he would have made the same choice.
Nine-Minute 'Star Trek Into Darkness' Prologue to Hit With 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' in IMAX 3D
http://www.slashfilm.com/nine-minute-star-trek-into-darkness-prologue-to-hit-with-the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-in-imax-3d/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/nine-minute-star-trek-into-darkness-prologue-to-hit-with-the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-in-imax-3d/)
Well looks like I found a reason to see The Hobbit now...
I bought my tickets to see The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey in IMAX 3D at the IMAX ODEON in Liverpool. I hope to hell that we don't get f**ked about! This is just an awesome added bonus if we get it too!!!!
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 15, 2012, 11:51:41 AM
Well looks like I found a reason to see The Hobbit now...
>implying the movie itself wasn't enough reason
So Star Trek Into Darkness will be in 3D? I didn't know that. Hopefully a teaser trailer and poster will be released soon.
Exclusive: First Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer Also Premiering Dec. 14th
Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer To Show With (non-IMAX) Hobbit Movie
TrekMovie has exclusively learned from multiple trusted sources that the first trailer for Star Trek Into Darkness will premiere with screenings of Peter Jackson's The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey on December 14th. To be clear this Trek trailer is a completely different thing than the 9-minute preview of the beginning of the new movie which will be shown at IMAX screenings of the Hobbit film. Also TrekMovie has confirmed that the IMAX screenings will not be showing the trailer for Star Trek Into Darkness. So if you want trailer see non-IMAX Hobbit and if you want preview of opening 9 minutes see IMAX Hobbit.
Details are still sketchy on the trailer itself, however TrekMovie has confirmed it is not a condensed version of the 9-minute preview showing on IMAX. Specifically sources confirm the trailer contains material from many parts of the movie. We have also learned that this is a traditional theatrical trailer and not just short teaser trailer.
http://trekmovie.com/2012/11/15/exclusive-first-star-trek-into-darkness-trailer-also-premiering-dec-14th/ (http://trekmovie.com/2012/11/15/exclusive-first-star-trek-into-darkness-trailer-also-premiering-dec-14th/)
One more Month to go!
Nice
Is the trailer premiering online as well on Dec. 14th?
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Nov 15, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 15, 2012, 11:51:41 AM
Well looks like I found a reason to see The Hobbit now...
>implying the movie itself wasn't enough reason
Honestly, I wasn't that nuts about it to begin with. LotR was all I could tolerate in terms of Peter Jackson filmmaking. Which is odd, considering I loved Lawrence of Arabia and that's an even longer film.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 16, 2012, 11:36:00 AM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Nov 15, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 15, 2012, 11:51:41 AM
Well looks like I found a reason to see The Hobbit now...
>implying the movie itself wasn't enough reason
Honestly, I wasn't that nuts about it to begin with. LotR was all I could tolerate in terms of Peter Jackson filmmaking. Which is odd, considering I loved Lawrence of Arabia and that's an even longer film.
The trick about LotR is not minding that it hurts.
Haha, well-played.
I didn't dislike LotR, not at all. I think they're excellent films. What I meant was, they're about as epic as any movie can get for a fantasy film and I'm not sure anything could top them.
Well, The Hobbit is a quite different book. It's more like the first book in the LOTR trilogy. And more light-hearted, but not too much.
Official synopsis revealed
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97404 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97404)
Quote from: Xenokiller on Nov 27, 2012, 08:35:10 PM
Official synopsis revealed
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97404 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97404)
So it looks like Urban was maybe telling the truth then?
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Nov 27, 2012, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: Xenokiller on Nov 27, 2012, 08:35:10 PM
Official synopsis revealed
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97404 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97404)
So it looks like Urban was maybe telling the truth then?
About? I think I've missed that.
Are we talking a Section 31? Gone crazy?
... Meh
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54#)
Sounds like a solid plot. And Urban probably was telling the truth about
Spoiler
Gary Mitchell being the villain.
Sounds stark but it's Star Trek so it should be a good time.
1:03 Teaser has been classed:
http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx (http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx)
I thought it was supposed to be a proper trailer. Read it somewhere.
At this stage of the game, a teaser is due. I wouldn't expect a full one for another few months after the teaser releases.
Does anyone know if all of the IMAX showings has the first 9 minutes of this movie? I try to look it up and I found nothing.
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Looking good, I like it!
Awkward generic rip-off of both The Dark Knight Rises and Inception posters, doesn't look at all like it has to do with Star Trek aside from the Starfleet insignia.
I seriously hope this isn't indicative of the entire marketing campaign.
Cumberbatch is gonna wreck shit in this.
Lame
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Why is London getting f**ked up so much in recent media?
I for one like it...not a single lens flare in sight! :D
Doesn't even look like Star Trek aside from the delta insignia. :'( sadface.
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Why is London getting f**ked up so much in recent media?
That ain't London bro. That's futuristic San Fran from the first movie.
It's most certainly London as it uses several buildings from the city's skyline including The Cucumber, The Shard and the London Eye (located next to the Thames river in the poster's bottom left hand side).
Then why does it look so much like this screen shot of San Fran from the 2009 film?
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/trektrailer3-8.jpg (http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/trektrailer3-8.jpg)
Perhaps because it's the future all over the world and not just in San Francisco. :laugh:
Don't get sarcastic with me. I was only making an observation that it looked like San Fran from the last movie.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 03, 2012, 06:53:03 PM
Don't get sarcastic with me.
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QuoteI was only making an observation that it looked like San Fran from the last movie.
No, you were telling people they were wrong despite the fact they weren't. Relax, it happens.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 03, 2012, 09:13:58 AM
Awkward generic rip-off of both The Dark Knight Rises and Inception posters, doesn't look at all like it has to do with Star Trek aside from the Starfleet insignia.
I seriously hope this isn't indicative of the entire marketing campaign.
I feel the same. I really hope that movie posters in the next few years not are going to copy off the TDKR.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 03, 2012, 11:13:27 PMI feel the same. I really hope that movie posters in the next few years are going to copy off the TDKR.
You mean
not, right?
Yes sorry about that :-[. I'm looking forward to seeing how San Francisco ends up getting destroyed in the movie.
San...Fran... (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic03.mediaite.com%2Fthemarysue%2Fuploads%2Fgallery%2Fprotagidads%2F2008-11-05-cmdr_sisko.jpg&hash=07cce65134a51c6051f71a5217895bd54c364261) :D
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 03, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
Yes sorry about that :-[. I'm looking forward to seeing how San Francisco ends up getting destroyed in the movie.
You mean London?
Quote"I've seen the trailer - it doesn't confirm that Cumberbatch is playing Gary Mitchell. He has a monologue where he mentions 'revenge' and he looks to have stronger than human strength, so it's a possibility. Also, the Enterprise goes underwater. It's going to make a beautiful desktop wallpaper :)"
"Jeff" goes on to say, in a discussion with other commenter, that the Enterprise is viewed both falling into and rising out of a body of water, and he mentions that the trailer went by "fast". Also, he says that Cumberbatch is seen wearing a black uniform, as seen in the previously released photos of Cumberbatch and Zachary Quinto, who plays Spock.
Most of the fellow commenters in the discussion were hesitant to believe "Jeff", and it must be stated that most of the information "Jeff" purports to have seen, other than the Enterprise going underwater, has already been seen. However, that does not make "Jeff's" statements untrue, just suspect.
The poster states that he only saw the trailer once, and will not give information as to where and how he had the opportunity to view it, though he does claim to be an industry insider; he is only passing along limited information due to fear of losing his job.
This information is preliminary, of course, and entirely rumor.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LP4/news/?a=70760 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LP4/news/?a=70760)
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 03, 2012, 09:13:58 AM
Awkward generic rip-off of both The Dark Knight Rises and Inception posters, doesn't look at all like it has to do with Star Trek aside from the Starfleet insignia.
I seriously hope this isn't indicative of the entire marketing campaign.
I think this is a new trend for big-budget films. It's their way of embracing the "less is more" mentality.
Poster looks decent I guess. Still waiting for the trailer, before I get all warm and fuzzy inside.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 04, 2012, 03:53:53 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 03, 2012, 09:13:58 AM
Awkward generic rip-off of both The Dark Knight Rises and Inception posters, doesn't look at all like it has to do with Star Trek aside from the Starfleet insignia.
I seriously hope this isn't indicative of the entire marketing campaign.
I think this is a new trend for big-budget films. It's their way of embracing the "less is more" mentality.
If that's the idea for less is more... I'd hate to see what they consider to be overblown.
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That puts shit into perspective.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 04, 2012, 04:11:39 AM
http://bite-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/star-trek-into-darkness-movie-poster-comparison-580x578.jpg
Like I said.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 04, 2012, 04:11:39 AM
http://bite-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/star-trek-into-darkness-movie-poster-comparison-580x578.jpg
Wow, I made the Inception and Dark Knight Rises comparisons without even looking into each just from memory, but that right there just makes it so painfully clear.
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Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 04, 2012, 04:11:39 AM
http://bite-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/star-trek-into-darkness-movie-poster-comparison-580x578.jpg
The only difference is it's the villain's back turned, not the hero's
Online trailer premiers this Thursday!!!
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=70879 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=70879)
Japan gets it in September?! Good Lord, that's absurd.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 04, 2012, 04:11:39 AM
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Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 05, 2012, 04:11:25 AMJapan gets it in September?! Good Lord, that's absurd.
Neh. They're too busy watching anime to care about that.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 05, 2012, 04:11:25 AM
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Japan gets it in September?! Good Lord, that's absurd.
Japan always get big film releases late. Remember how they got The Avengers near the end of August?
Japan has their own popular movies that come out from May to August. Star Trek was never that popular internationally expect for the UK. I doubt it will be very popular in Japan.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 05, 2012, 07:09:45 PM
Japan has their own popular movies that come out from May to August. Star Trek was never that popular internationally expect for the UK. I doubt it will be very popular in Japan.
Um...
Star Trek has always been popular internationally. In particularly Japan and Germany.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 05, 2012, 01:16:19 AM
Online trailer premiers this Thursday!!!
Well, that's tomorrow. Excited!
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 05, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Um...
Star Trek has always been popular internationally. In particularly Japan and Germany.
Like David Hasselhoff.
Quote from: First Blood on Dec 05, 2012, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 05, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Um...
Star Trek has always been popular internationally. In particularly Japan and Germany.
Like David Hasselhoff.
Oh God...
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 05, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Star Trek has always been popular internationally. In particularly Japan and Germany.
From what I've been told that Star Trek is not that popular in most places in the World compare to other Sci-Fi series like Star Wars.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 05, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
Oh God...
The man had a talking car, and was Nick Fury. Cut him some slack. ;)
He's also the greatest singer ever to grace mankind with his voice.
Ever.
Quote from: Laufey on Dec 05, 2012, 07:44:50 PM
He's also the greatest singer ever to grace mankind with his voice.
Ever.
Don't hassle The Hoff. 8)
Spoiler
Okay, back to Trek. :P
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 05, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 05, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Star Trek has always been popular internationally. In particularly Japan and Germany.
From what I've been told that Star Trek is not that popular in most places in the World compare to other Sci-Fi series like Star Wars.
Completely untrue. At FedCom (Germany) conventions have had 5,000 people a day. In fact, I believe the largest convention ever held was in Germany itself. There are conventions and fans reaching from Australia, through Asia and into Europe. It's only now starting to slide because its been off the air so long.
Always been a monster figure in numbers across the world - a long with Star Wars.
Lets not forget George Takei, hugely popular for his Japanese background.
Trailer classed at 1:50. Looks like it's a theatrical length.
http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx (http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx)
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 05, 2012, 11:42:56 PM
Trailer classed at 1:50. Looks like it's a theatrical length.
http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx (http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx)
Well, they've classified
two trailers it seems.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 05, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 05, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Star Trek has always been popular internationally. In particularly Japan and Germany.
From what I've been told that Star Trek is not that popular in most places in the World compare to other Sci-Fi series like Star Wars.
Really? How come?
I always think Star Wars is more popular worldwide since it's more action oriented. I also try to call my local theater to see if my IMAX showing of The Hobbit has the first nine minutes or not, but they told me that they don't know.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 06, 2012, 01:19:09 AM
I always think Star Wars is more popular worldwide since it's more action oriented.
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Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 06, 2012, 01:19:09 AM
I also try to call my local theater to see if my IMAX showing of The Hobbit has the first nine minutes or not, but they told me that they don't know.
Depends on if it's a digital IMAX or an actual IMAX.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 06, 2012, 01:23:13 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 06, 2012, 01:19:09 AM
I always think Star Wars is more popular worldwide since it's more action oriented.
http://static.tumblr.com/v4vvd40/m75lmpfhe/tumblr_llgaeahjah1qiyqyfo1_500.gif
He's right though. People would sooner watch Star Wars for the lightsabers and the Force rather than watch Federation folks be diplomatic about a war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws)
...BRAHMMMMMM BRAHHMMMMMM.... every single action flick is using those big chords nowadays...
great trailer though.
Looks pretty good.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Dec 06, 2012, 09:36:20 AM
...BRAHMMMMMM BRAHHMMMMMM.... every single action flick is using those big chords nowadays...
great trailer though.
I agree on both points.
Oh, and Cumberbatch's voice is
f**king awesome.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 06, 2012, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Dec 06, 2012, 09:36:20 AM
...BRAHMMMMMM BRAHHMMMMMM.... every single action flick is using those big chords nowadays...
great trailer though.
I agree on both points.
Oh, and Cumberbatch's voice is f**king awesome.
+1
Let's cast Cumberbatch in everything.
The Japanese trailer is exactly the same... but with something else at the end... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws)
wheres the damn space scenes?
looks good though.
Quote from: Vepariga on Dec 06, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
wheres the damn space scenes?
looks good though.
We'll see them later. They're clearly going to space in this.
Quote from: Vepariga on Dec 06, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
wheres the damn space scenes?
looks good though.
Where is the hot Mexican Khan?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Dec 06, 2012, 08:09:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws)
Holy f**k, that was amazing!!! That narration by Cumberbatch sent chills down my spine.
I feel... nothing. :(
One question for those Trekkies with far more knowledge than me: Who is that blonde chick? She seems to have prominent role in this movie.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Dec 06, 2012, 08:09:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws)
:)
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 06, 2012, 02:44:42 PM
One question for those Trekkies with far more knowledge than me: Who is that blonde chick? She seems to have prominent role in this movie.
Never seen her before and have no idea who she is/could be. Probably new.
...or, come to think of it. If this is a remake of Wrath of Khan, she could be the historian character from TOS who ended up leaving with Khan. Thats my best bet. Some variation of that... if at all.
It's the same style of Prometheus trailer.Even the soundtrack remembered a little.It is a promising film.
And I think it's probably Khan at the movie trailer.
Absolutely wonderful. Gah, gotta go pop in my copy of the '09 film soon. Hell, should just marathon all the Trek films while I'm at it; still haven't seen them all.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 06, 2012, 10:41:38 AM
Oh, and Cumberbatch's voice is f**king awesome.
Watch
Sherlock.
Anyone know who Cumberbatch is playing?
I dunno. My money's on Gary Mitchell. Doubt it's Khan, because he's not even trying to look or sound like him, but Mitchell makes sense if it's personal with Kirk and he's a 'one man weapon of mass destruction.'
Spoiler
The end of the Japanese spot... Is Spock dying again?
Spoiler
Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws)
God damn Japanese trailer basically telling us that this movie is more than likely taking something out of WRATH OF KAHN! That ending!
GOD DAMMIT JAPAN!
SOMEONE RELEASE GODZILLA!
Spoiler
It would be an interesting bait and switch if that's Cumberbatch dying and Spock doing the hand motion.
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 06, 2012, 03:48:08 PM
Spoiler
Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws)
Better version.
Welp that got me excited as f**k. It's great to see the gang back together again.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 06, 2012, 02:47:33 PMNever seen her before and have no idea who she is/could be. Probably new.
...or, come to think of it. If this is a remake of Wrath of Khan, she could be the historian character from TOS who ended up leaving with Khan. Thats my best bet. Some variation of that... if at all.
Could be Elizabeth Whatsherface from Where No Man Has Gone Before?
Doesn't the trailer come out today?!?!?!
:)
...nvm.
And where was Spock?!?!?!?!
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 06, 2012, 05:45:23 PM
...nvm.
And where was Spock?!?!?!?!
Just need to look at the trailer again!
I just saw him running for like .5 seconds?!?!
Nice trailer. What I'm most looking forward to right now is Cumberbatch and seeing Enterprise under water.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2012, 05:42:33 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 06, 2012, 02:47:33 PMNever seen her before and have no idea who she is/could be. Probably new.
...or, come to think of it. If this is a remake of Wrath of Khan, she could be the historian character from TOS who ended up leaving with Khan. Thats my best bet. Some variation of that... if at all.
Could be Elizabeth Whatsherface from Where No Man Has Gone Before?
Very similar look, good call on that but I doubt it. I don't think we will ever see omnipotent or super powerful beings on the big screen. :(
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 06, 2012, 02:44:42 PM
One question for those Trekkies with far more knowledge than me: Who is that blonde chick? She seems to have prominent role in this movie.
Since she was wearing blue im going to guess it's nurse Chapel.
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AKA Majel Roddenberry
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 06, 2012, 07:15:00 PM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 06, 2012, 02:44:42 PM
One question for those Trekkies with far more knowledge than me: Who is that blonde chick? She seems to have prominent role in this movie.
Since she was wearing blue im going to guess it's nurse Chapel.
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8100/320x240z.jpg
AKA Majel Roddenberry
Good guess too.
Quote from: Marlowe on Dec 06, 2012, 02:50:07 PM
It's the same style of Prometheus trailer.Even the soundtrack remembered a little.It is a promising film.
And I think it's probably Khan at the movie trailer.
Agreed. I mean, we see a guy swinging in and swinging gigantic metallic whatever-those-things-are like they're nothing so it makes sense, Eugenics and all that.
Betting on Gary Mitchell myself.
Me too.
The teaser trailer certainly hyped me up. Can't wait to see more Kirk and Bones!
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 06, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Betting on Gary Mitchell myself.
Same here. The synopsis mentions a "threat from within their own."
Definitely looking forward to seeing Dr. Dredd McCoy back. :laugh:
Also, between this, Smaug, and The Necromancer, Cumberbatch could potentially be the movie villain of 2013.
The trailer was amazing. I also just saw the Japanese extended trailer and the trailer has a nod to Wrath Of Khan.
Spoiler
I guess Spock will end up being killed?
What makes you think that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BrHlQUXFzfw#t=54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BrHlQUXFzfw#t=54s)
Spoiler
@1:02 The scene with Kirk and Spock in the trailer reminds me at the end of WoK.
Which suggests nothing about Spock being killed. You don't actually even know if that's Spock and Kirk. It's a blue shirt and someone else putting their hands against glass. Could be two guys saying goodbye in prison.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 06, 2012, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 06, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Betting on Gary Mitchell myself.
Same here. The synopsis mentions a "threat from within their own."
How do you get Gary Mitchell who was a psychic from this dude running around with a bunch of weapons punching everyone?
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 07, 2012, 12:21:32 AM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 06, 2012, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 06, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Betting on Gary Mitchell myself.
Same here. The synopsis mentions a "threat from within their own."
How do you get Gary Mitchell who was a psychic from this dude running around with a bunch of weapons punching everyone?
He certainly looks special. And it's not like they can't reinvent the character in some aspects. New continuity, bro.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 07, 2012, 01:22:23 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 07, 2012, 12:21:32 AM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 06, 2012, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 06, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Betting on Gary Mitchell myself.
Same here. The synopsis mentions a "threat from within their own."
How do you get Gary Mitchell who was a psychic from this dude running around with a bunch of weapons punching everyone?
He certainly looks special. And it's not like they can't reinvent the character in some aspects. New continuity, bro.
Im not saying he cant be the dude i am just asking how did you come to that theory.
It seems pretty random a conclusion from what little we saw.
The blonde woman is also being compared to the chick in the Gary Mitchell episode, Where No Man Has Gone Before:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinkraygun.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2FStar_Trek_silver-eyes.jpg&hash=d6af8d28aee7598069041c137d17b0a5eccbba27)
It'd also make a lot of sense, since wasn't that the second pilot of the series? The first one with Kirk? Which would be a fitting way to kick off the crew's adventures, now that they ARE really a crew.
Quote from: Ruadh on Dec 07, 2012, 02:29:18 AM
The blonde woman is also being compared to the chick in the Gary Mitchell episode, Where No Man Has Gone Before:
http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Star_Trek_silver-eyes.jpg
It'd also make a lot of sense, since wasn't that the second pilot of the series? The first one with Kirk? Which would be a fitting way to kick off the crew's adventures, now that they ARE really a crew.
The women do match but the men do not at all.
Quote from: Ruadh on Dec 07, 2012, 02:29:18 AM
The blonde woman is also being compared to the chick in the Gary Mitchell episode, Where No Man Has Gone Before:
http://www.pinkraygun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Star_Trek_silver-eyes.jpg
It'd also make a lot of sense, since wasn't that the second pilot of the series? The first one with Kirk? Which would be a fitting way to kick off the crew's adventures, now that they ARE really a crew.
Yes, that would be the one. I guess it could be here, certainly.
Just read this. It echoes everything you guys are postulating. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/06/to-boldly-speculate-star-trek-into-darkness-trailer)
Awesome.
A description of the 9 minute long footage.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=71101 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=71101)
Quote"The first half of the footage begins with Noel Clarke and Kayla Hassan as parents visiting their sick child – who appears to be losing her hair – in the hospital. We see Cumberbatch come up from behind Clarke while he is standing on a terrace grieving and the mystery man says, "I can save her. I can save your daughter." As an extra tease, Clarke actually asks Cumberbatch who he is, but instead of getting an answer we just get a slow zoom on the Sherlock actor's face. So we know that his character has some kind of healing ability – whether he's a doctor or it's something supernatural – but we remain in the dark about his actual name.
That part takes up all of two minutes, leaving the rest of the footage to focus on the crew of the Enterprise – Abrams' really living up to his word in that respect. As seen in the trailer that was released this past week, Kirk (Chris Pine) and Bones (Karl Urban) are down on a strange planet with weird red plants running for their life while Uhura (Zoe Saldana), Sulu (John Cho) and Spock (Zachary Quinto) are flying around on a hovercraft somewhere else on the same world dealing with an erupting volcano that threatens to destroy everything on the planet (this also happens to be the scene where Spock is wearing the volcano suit that we got to see not only in on-set photos but also the three-frame clip that Abrams brought to Conan last month). It's an interesting way to re-introduce the characters, as they are seemingly three-quarters through a mission we know very little about, but it's definitely thrilling and by the end the stakes are so high that you become immediately engaged with what's going on."
I really need to stop being lazy and watch the 2009 film. I've heard nothing but good things, I just have yet to find the opportunity to give it a watch...
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 10, 2012, 05:13:54 AM
I really need to stop being lazy and watch the 2009 film. I've heard nothing but good things, I just have yet to find the opportunity to give it a watch...
Once you do, you might recognize some faces during the first five minutes. ;)
I'm assuming you mean Chris Hemsworth? I heard he had a small role in it. :)
Yup, but you will probably recognize his superior commander from another MCU movie as well. 8)
Huh, I probably heard who it was and am just not remembering at the moment. Guess I'll hold off on looking it up; I'll try to pick the movie up soon, if possible.
Anyone still think Cumberbatch is Khan after reading that? I don't, TBH.
I'm not well versed enough in Star Trek lore to make a guess on who he might be playing. That it's Cumberbatch is more than enough for me to get excited though. ;D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 10, 2012, 05:16:13 AM
I'm assuming you mean Chris Hemsworth? I heard he had a small role in it. :)
Yup, opening scene. He played Kirk's father.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 10, 2012, 05:13:54 AM
I really need to stop being lazy and watch the 2009 film. I've heard nothing but good things, I just have yet to find the opportunity to give it a watch...
You
need to watch that movie.
The other Star Trek movies are great too. You don't need to know that much about the show in order to enjoy them. You can skip TMP and Star Trek V since they are never mention again in any of the movies.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59938 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59938)
QuoteMr. Beaks Takes A STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS! First Nine Minutes Reviewed!
Quote from: First Blood on Dec 10, 2012, 06:17:50 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 10, 2012, 05:13:54 AM
I really need to stop being lazy and watch the 2009 film. I've heard nothing but good things, I just have yet to find the opportunity to give it a watch...
You need to watch that movie.
What this man said!
I really think you'll love it, NA. :)
I'm sure I will. Unfortunately, my only experience with Star Trek is a few episodes of TOS that I saw on TV with my dad and one episode of TNG I saw in class this year.
@Nightmare Asylum- You really need to see this movie. It's on FX all the time lol.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Dec 10, 2012, 10:37:15 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59938 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59938) QuoteMr. Beaks Takes A STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS! First Nine Minutes Reviewed!
OMG...that comment someone said about combining Khan and Mitchell makes so much sense! Could it be? And damn, I need to see this proluoge!
Extremely late to this party ;D but just watched the trailer, and I have to say it looks beyond stupid and who's this hideously ugly white ninja X-man jump-kicking everyone, and why does it look like a bad near-future disaster film? :-\
Other than that, I'm sure Abrams will deliver and the movie itself will kick ass just like the first one. :D But damn it, come on, how can people not think it looks absolutely shallow, predictable, cheesy, and overall just bad? Trailer fail, if you ask me.
and I hate Benebatch Cumberdick already :laugh:
Hate and poo, lol, but again I think the movie will be great. Just.. this trailer.. yeesh. Didn't excite me in the least, with the lava and Inception music and jump-kicking. If Trek fans were disappointed that the first one was too action-y, holy balls fasten your hate belts :D :P
Please continue with the pleasant interaction! I just had to vent.
Well, the Trek films that tried to be cerebral pretty much all sucked, so I'm fine with the action-y approach.
QuoteThis occurs after we've been introduced to Benedict Cumberbatch, who turns up at a hospital in London to offer a husband and wife the opportunity to save their child (who appears to be terminally ill).
That sounds like genetic engineering stuff... aka KHAAAANN!!
QuoteGiven the Stardate (2259) and Cumberbatch's deeply anglo appearance, there is no reason to believe he is Khan Noonien Singh. Even if you argue that this is a new timeline, and that Khan could've been roused from suspended animation earlier than 2267, you've still got to deal with the ethnicity issue. This can't be Khan.
Here how they deal with the ethnicity issue.................. THEY DONT!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyvYxs.jpg&hash=e3b9ebb2e6a8fd7c35fad2b226607f73f0e946a7)
Quote from: Shasvre on Dec 10, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
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That looks like the scene from the trailer, where they are seen placing hands on the glass.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 10, 2012, 07:33:06 PM
QuoteThis occurs after we've been introduced to Benedict Cumberbatch, who turns up at a hospital in London to offer a husband and wife the opportunity to save their child (who appears to be terminally ill).
That sounds like genetic engineering stuff... aka KHAAAANN!!
Don't be jumping to conclusions just yet. People have started skepticism to believe he is now a combination of Khan and Gary Mitchell. Which I am fine with.
Quote from: Shasvre on Dec 10, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
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Loki in captivity anyone?
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
mping to conclusions just yet. People have started skepticism to believe he is now a combination of Khan and Gary Mitchell. Which I am fine with.
So he is going to be a genetically engineered superman with mind powers?
That's overkill.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 10, 2012, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: Shasvre on Dec 10, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
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Loki in captivity anyone?
That seems to be a new craze in movies lately.
Started with TDK, IIRC.
Quote from: Shasvre on Dec 10, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
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Not gonna lie, Cumber looks pretty badass right there.
Continued with Skyfall, and now this. What is IIRC?
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
Continued with Skyfall, and now this. What is IIRC?
If
I
Recal
Correctly
If I Recall Correctly. I think.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 10, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
Started with TDK, IIRC.
And since then, characters like The Joker, Loki, and Silva all found clever ways to escape their cells. It will be interesting to see how Cumberbatch get's out.
Quote from: First Blood on Dec 10, 2012, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 10, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
Started with TDK, IIRC.
And since then, characters like The Joker, Loki, and Silva all found clever ways to escape their cells. It will be interesting to see how Cumberbatch get's out.
Goodbye Enterprise?
What? He's going to crash it?
He's going to challenge Kirk to a dance off, Please. If this movie doesn't have a dance number I'll be sad.
Quote from: MudButt on Dec 10, 2012, 09:24:20 PM
He's going to challenge Kirk to a dance off, Please. If this movie doesn't have a dance number I'll be sad.
I was hoping for a freestyle battle. To the death. :-\
I'll be pleased with either one my friend.
My fellow Trekkers, search who "John Harrison" is. That's supposedly the name of Cumberbatch's character. Could be an alias though.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2012, 10:10:47 PM
My fellow Trekkers, search who "John Harrison" is. That's supposedly the name of Cumberbatch's character. Could be an alias though.
I found this:
http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/benedict-cumberbatch-revealed-john-harrison-star-trek-darkness-omicron-spores (http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/benedict-cumberbatch-revealed-john-harrison-star-trek-darkness-omicron-spores)
QuoteHarrison was a technician featured in many episodes as a supporting character who eventually went on to become a Lieutenant. Nothing much from his bio really seems to be in line with what we've seen or heard from Cumberbatch's character, other than perhaps the Omicron spore incident. The spores infected the crew of the Enterprise causing them to beam down to a planet where the spores thrive on a type of radiation. They gave the infected a "peace of mind," telepathic abilities and the ability to restore health -- something Cumberbatch teased in the IMAX footage.
"Telepathic abilities, and restore health"?! Yep, he's Harrison infected with spores. I wonder if that was the opening memorial service we saw. Like all those "infected" had to be exterminated and Harrison (Cumberbatch) survives to exact revenge on the Starfleet Academy.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2012, 11:10:44 PM
"Telepathic abilities, and restore health"?! Yep, he's Harrison infected with spores. I wonder if that was the opening memorial service we saw. Like all those "infected" had to be exterminated and Harrison (Cumberbatch) survives to exact revenge on the Starfleet Academy.
And I'm thinking that the cage he's sealed in might be some sort of isolation chamber, which Kirk ejected into space or something like that.
Don't know much about Trek-lore, but the teaser certainly gives me the impression that Kirk & co are leaving Cumberbatchs character behind early in the film for whatever reason, in what could be considered some sense of betrayal. Hence, he returns for revenge and that's the main plot of the film.
That pic of the hands and glass in-between, could be Cumberbatch and Kirk just before Kirk 'dispatches' or sacrifices him for the greater good.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 10, 2012, 11:12:56 PM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2012, 11:10:44 PM
"Telepathic abilities, and restore health"?! Yep, he's Harrison infected with spores. I wonder if that was the opening memorial service we saw. Like all those "infected" had to be exterminated and Harrison (Cumberbatch) survives to exact revenge on the Starfleet Academy.
And I'm thinking that the cage he's sealed in might be some sort of isolation chamber, which Kirk ejected into space or something like that.
I think we solved the mystery!
Guys, he's clearly Kohn Mitchelson.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2012, 11:45:16 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 10, 2012, 11:12:56 PM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2012, 11:10:44 PM
"Telepathic abilities, and restore health"?! Yep, he's Harrison infected with spores. I wonder if that was the opening memorial service we saw. Like all those "infected" had to be exterminated and Harrison (Cumberbatch) survives to exact revenge on the Starfleet Academy.
And I'm thinking that the cage he's sealed in might be some sort of isolation chamber, which Kirk ejected into space or something like that.
I think we solved the mystery!
Yeah, it definitely fits the "hand against the glass" scene.
I can't tell if you're agreeing with us or you're being sarcastic. lol
Klingons Confirmed for "Star Trek 2," Plus New Photo Unveiled
Today we have a brand new photo from the upcoming "Star Trek" sequel, called "Star Trek Into Darkness," giving us a look at Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto and Benedict Cumberbatch. Check out the photo below.
Meanwhile, new footage from the movie was screened at JJ Abrams' Bad Robot production company offices, and many are reporting that Klingons will appear in the film.
"We've seen Klingons. They do have forehead ridges but with ornamental piercings and facial hair out of the original series," wrote SHH. "There are 14 Klingon characters in the film, but only two have speaking roles and are the only ones to remove their helmets."
Read more: http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=26885&count=0#ixzz2Ehv2cfiT (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=26885&count=0#ixzz2Ehv2cfiT)
Klingons you say? Remember this photo?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcomingsoon.net%2Fnextraimages%2Fklingon-trek-2.jpg&hash=9c14c8a86e79465be0aafd622cee8ebcb2fb9677)
Makes sense to why you don't see that image of a Klingon show up in the 2009 deleted scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pchkWmhCMXM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pchkWmhCMXM)
Plus that video for the MTV Movie Awards was shoot during J.J. shooting the sequel.
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Dec 11, 2012, 02:42:01 AM
Klingons Confirmed for "Star Trek 2," Plus New Photo Unveiled
Today we have a brand new photo from the upcoming "Star Trek" sequel, called "Star Trek Into Darkness," giving us a look at Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto and Benedict Cumberbatch. Check out the photo below.
Meanwhile, new footage from the movie was screened at JJ Abrams' Bad Robot production company offices, and many are reporting that Klingons will appear in the film.
"We've seen Klingons. They do have forehead ridges but with ornamental piercings and facial hair out of the original series," wrote SHH. "There are 14 Klingon characters in the film, but only two have speaking roles and are the only ones to remove their helmets."
Read more: http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=26885&count=0#ixzz2Ehv2cfiT (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=26885&count=0#ixzz2Ehv2cfiT)
Since when do Klingons wear helmets?
They wore them in Star Trek '09 in a deleted scene with Nero. But you're right. They're usually not wearing any.
Worth reading.
Spoiler
QuoteIGN's own Jim Vejvoda attended a press event today where director J.J. Abrams and other members of the Star Trek team were on hand to discuss the film. During the event, it was revealed that Alice Eve is playing Carol Marcus in the film. You will recall that Marcus was created for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan as an old love interest of Captain Kirk's -- and the mother of his son, David! (She was also one of the designers of the Genesis Device, natch.) Whether or not this means Star Trek Into Darkness is going with a Khan story is unclear, since the events in this film of course take place decades before the Khan/Marcus story from Wrath of Khan, so stay tuned...
Some info on the new trailer.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/6of13/news/?a=71194 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/6of13/news/?a=71194)
Sounds good.
Cumberbatch talks about his character.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=71217 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=71217)
Quote"He's a terrorist; he operates as a terrorist," said the British actor. "He has extraordinary physical powers, but also mental powers. He can sow an idea, which is as powerful as gunshots or close-hand combat, which he's masterful in. He tears into the fabric of both the world and the Enterprise family, and he leaves behind him a trail of devastation. It's quite exciting to watch."
"Giving away the full motivation would ruin it," he said, "but it's personal. It's also political, I think. He's somebody who, at some point in the film, you should feel a certain amount of empathy towards his cause, if not his means. ... There's no two-dimensional obstacle he presents purely and simply by the fact that he's opposing our hero."
"He has an interesting relationship with Kirk, and with Spock in a way," teased Cumberbatch. "He very much plays them off against each other. There's an element of shadow to him and Kirk."
JOBLO VISITS BAD ROBOT TO GET A BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AT STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fnewsimages1%2Fstar%2520trek%2520into%2520darkness.jpg&hash=88265c340f75a236b38a1d84893bd7c411b30599)
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/joblo-visits-bad-robot-to-get-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-star-trek-into-darkness (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/joblo-visits-bad-robot-to-get-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-star-trek-into-darkness)
So those are the new Klingons?
Quote from: Shasvre on Dec 12, 2012, 08:25:59 PM
So those are the new Klingons?
Oh FFS I hope not...
They appear to be doing battle with their great enemies- the lens flares.
From what I've read, all the Klingons will wear masks and 2 more prominent characters will take their masks off
They've looked like that since the last one. Deleted scene albeit but still.
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Dec 12, 2012, 08:17:18 PM
JOBLO VISITS BAD ROBOT TO GET A BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AT STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fnewsimages1%2Fstar%2520trek%2520into%2520darkness.jpg&hash=88265c340f75a236b38a1d84893bd7c411b30599)
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/joblo-visits-bad-robot-to-get-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-star-trek-into-darkness (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/joblo-visits-bad-robot-to-get-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-star-trek-into-darkness)
This cannot look any more horrible.
They were in the 2009 deleted scenes, no one complained then, so why complain now?
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
They were in the 2009 deleted scenes, no one complained then, so why complain now?
Because they were deleted.
Most had to have seen the deleted scenes; there were so many of them.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
They were in the 2009 deleted scenes, no one complained then, so why complain now?
I didnt see any deleted scenes and if i would have back in 2009 i would have complained.
This is why i am complaining now..... those looks like the most random combination of things ever.
Trench coats with goofy leather masks. That makes the TOS wardrobe seem excellent.
Dude, the images/deleted scenes have been around for over 4 years, it's hard not to ignore what they looked like. I'm fine with the look, interesting to see how they will be featured in this sequel since they were omitted from the first film.
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
They were in the 2009 deleted scenes, no one complained then, so why complain now?
Not everyone watches deleted scenes and moreover, those scenes were deleted for a reason. But, if they're only helmets, then that's not so bad I guess.
It was deleted for pacing issues, though, not because of the designs in them.
Personally, I'm fine with how those Klingons look. Fits in with their whole culture and aesthetic.
I think they look fine. What's the problem?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Dec 13, 2012, 07:11:01 AM
I think they look fine. What's the problem?
They look ridiculous for "Klingons"?
meh, I don't like them.
Klingons always look ridiculous. I think the metal mask is interesting, and what matters now is how they act on camera. Also how they're shot and what the context is.
Design wise, I'm not worried.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Dec 13, 2012, 09:05:59 AM
Klingons always look ridiculous.
Several decades of positive acceptance disagrees with you.
I'm not saying they're not accepted. What? No, just as a design, it's people with bumpy heads and odd facial hair. Why is that okay but metal face helmets aren't?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Dec 13, 2012, 09:18:13 AM
I'm not saying they're not accepted. What? No, just as a design, it's people with bumpy heads and odd facial hair. Why is that okay but metal face helmets aren't?
Because its so drastically different from one of the most recognized races in all of Sci Fi history?
It's just clothing. It's not like they turned into robots.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Dec 13, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
It's just clothing. It's not like they turned into robots.
Because its totally un Klingon? There is no deep answer to this.
If they removed the wierd ninja face shield I think that would be totally fine, keep the rest if you must, but the face cover is really wierd and out of place to me.
I like the uniform, it has elements of the TOS and TNG klingon uniforms, and the masks look quite cool imo
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
They were in the 2009 deleted scenes, no one complained then, so why complain now?
Because hurr durr.
It's a mask! Good Christ, everybody wears masks!
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 13, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
It's a mask! Good Christ, everybody wears masks!
Who wears a mask?
Gimps, for a start.
Gimps and Surgeons.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
Gimps, for a start.
Gimps and Surgeons.
That makes sense then.
People who are cold, for another.
Soldiers, too.
Lot's o' people on Hallowe'en...
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 13, 2012, 02:53:46 PM
People who are cold, for another.
Soldiers, too.
Lot's o' people on Hallowe'en...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M#)
Here's a closer look at the Klingons design:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftrekmovie.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F05%2Fklingtos09.jpg&hash=170438cfa8e18cae73c9ee56ac37b8f9b84a69ab)
As you can see, under the mask they look like TOS Klingon, their mask is molded after TNG Klingon.
Wouldn't it be funny if they wear the masks out of shame that their faces aren't bumpy? Like in the original show?
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 13, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
They were in the 2009 deleted scenes, no one complained then, so why complain now?
Because hurr durr.
Thanks for the best laugh I'll likely have all day :D
Your mother has a smooth forehead.
It's a bit of a shame that aliens in the Star Trek universe, just basically look like humans with a bit of goofy make-up applied to them, speaking perfectly English and all that. What's the point of exploring alien worlds when the aliens you encounter, are basically just like us? :D
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
It's a bit of a shame that aliens in the Star Trek universe, just basically look like humans with a bit of goofy make-up
This coming from a Doctor Who fan seems painfully ironic...
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PMapplied to them, speaking perfectly English and all that. What's the point of exploring alien worlds when the aliens you encounter, are basically just like us? :D
Actually, the universal translates everything to English and English to whatever language said alien speaks. Vulcans and Klingons have an
entire language people learn to speak fluently "in the real world" by fans.
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
True, you'd figured they'd do that with the better technology available then. At least enterprise did it with Insect races and... manatee (?) like race.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
True, you'd figured they'd do that with the better technology available then. At least enterprise did it with Insect races and... manatee (?) like race.
I saw a Voyager episode where the aliens looked exactly like humans, just with jam spread on their cheeks. Yeah, tht show sucked.
I'm a little fuzzy on how humans managed to interbreed with alien races. That shouldn't be possible.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
True, you'd figured they'd do that with the better technology available then. At least enterprise did it with Insect races and... manatee (?) like race.
I saw a Voyager episode where the aliens looked exactly like humans, just with jam spread on their cheeks. Yeah, tht show sucked.
I'm a little fuzzy on how humans managed to interbreed with alien races. That shouldn't be possible.
Voyager was my least favorite... the only great alien make up was the Borg make up and this amusing guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihl3ACv0FBM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihl3ACv0FBM#)
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
It's a bit of a shame that aliens in the Star Trek universe, just basically look like humans with a bit of goofy make-up
This coming from a Doctor Who fan seems painfully ironic...
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PMapplied to them, speaking perfectly English and all that. What's the point of exploring alien worlds when the aliens you encounter, are basically just like us? :D
Actually, the universal translates everything to English and English to whatever language said alien speaks. Vulcans and Klingons have an entire language people learn to speak fluently "in the real world" by fans.
The goofy and humorous tone of Doctor Who is intentional and the alien races it tries to depict, at least make an effort of looking alien, although it's clearly tv-budget territory. Trek takes itself seriously, it deals with the exploration of space by mankind. With that in mind, I find it somewhat unintentionally funny, that Vulcans (as one example) are differentiated from humans with pointy ears and those haircuts visually.
As for the language, well it sure is convenient with a 'universal translator' thingy thing. No idea how that's supposed to work though...
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
The goofy and humorous tone of Doctor Who is intentional and the alien races it tries to depict, at least make an effort of looking alien, although it's clearly tv-budget territory. Trek takes itself seriously, it deals with the exploration of space by mankind. With that in mind, I find it somewhat unintentionally funny, that Vulcans (as one example) are differentiated from humans with pointy ears and those haircuts visually.
Mmm, actually those things are explained in detail and came about in some of the better episodes. Aside from that there are other very well detailed difference I wouldn't want to bore you with. Also, there are quite a few races that aren't exactly humanoid - Tholians being the best example since they're not even carbon based life forms.
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 11:04:35 PMAs for the language, well it sure is convenient with a 'universal translator' thingy thing. No idea how that's supposed to work though...
Certainly no more convent then the Tardus translating everything or the Doctors... card thingy thing. Or did you think everyone in that universe spoke English too? :) The Universal translator basically absorbs a few words and sorts out the language right there if its unknown. Other wise it is pre loaded with known languages.
Not to mention they spoke full on Klingon in the movies. The one with Christopher Lloyd comes to mind.
I'll just admit to not seeing the other films, raise shields and get the f outta here... :D
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
True, you'd figured they'd do that with the better technology available then. At least enterprise did it with Insect races and... manatee (?) like race.
The Xindi they were called,.Enterprise was a good show,really dark at times.
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
It's a bit of a shame that aliens in the Star Trek universe, just basically look like humans with a bit of goofy make-up
This coming from a Doctor Who fan seems painfully ironic...
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PMapplied to them, speaking perfectly English and all that. What's the point of exploring alien worlds when the aliens you encounter, are basically just like us? :D
Actually, the universal translates everything to English and English to whatever language said alien speaks. Vulcans and Klingons have an entire language people learn to speak fluently "in the real world" by fans.
The goofy and humorous tone of Doctor Who is intentional and the alien races it tries to depict, at least make an effort of looking alien, although it's clearly tv-budget territory. Trek takes itself seriously, it deals with the exploration of space by mankind. With that in mind, I find it somewhat unintentionally funny, that Vulcans (as one example) are differentiated from humans with pointy ears and those haircuts visually.
As for the language, well it sure is convenient with a 'universal translator' thingy thing. No idea how that's supposed to work though...
Lol.
I'm not doubting it's
goofiness at all, but it's pretty clear that it's unintentional. Because the creators of the show can't come up with anything better doesn't mean that all of the glaring flaws are derived from intellectual and purposeful choices. :P
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:56:11 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
True, you'd figured they'd do that with the better technology available then. At least enterprise did it with Insect races and... manatee (?) like race.
I saw a Voyager episode where the aliens looked exactly like humans, just with jam spread on their cheeks. Yeah, tht show sucked.
I'm a little fuzzy on how humans managed to interbreed with alien races. That shouldn't be possible.
bodily
Voyager was my least favorite... the only great alien make up was the Borg make up and this amusing guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihl3ACv0FBM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihl3ACv0FBM#)
Having humanoid aliens doesn't bother me a bit. It's not like the human race has trademarked bipedalness and other bodily systems. Modern make-up techniques should do the rest just fine.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
True, you'd figured they'd do that with the better technology available then. At least enterprise did it with Insect races and... manatee (?) like race.
Farscape had some of the best looking aliens in tv shows
Babylon 5 did a really good job, too. Every single race was very unique, even the minor ones with only a single appearance.
One thing I always admired about TOS was that some of the alien species encountered looked like plain humans (e.g. the Iotians) because the show was so low budget yet they played them off as advanced in every way to humans. It was cute.
Quote from: Effectz on Dec 14, 2012, 12:15:00 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
I've been watching TOS a lot lately, and quite a few of the alien races are less humanoid than I expected. They're a lot more creative than Voyager aliens, that's for sure.
True, you'd figured they'd do that with the better technology available then. At least enterprise did it with Insect races and... manatee (?) like race.
The Xindi they were called,.Enterprise was a good show,really dark at times.
Ah yes, instantly popped into my head when you said Xindi,. The Aquatics and Insectoids. Oh I loved Enterprise at the end. It suffered the same as all Star Trek - the first few years they were trying to find their feet and it was a crappy show. The only difference was people were kinda ST'ed out in particular from Voyager. So, even though it got really great at the end (God I wanted to see the Earth Romulan War) it was doomed.
And yeah, it was darker. First time you ever saw anyone get sucked into space from battle damage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eV8qR2IEHk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eV8qR2IEHk#)
Given all the speculation, I must say that I am excited for this movie. Star Trek has been one of my favorite Sci-fi sagas, and J.J. Abrams took me by surprise last time. I personally won't dwell on the tiny details until I see more of the film.
Just back from The Hobbit and have watched the 9 minute clip of Into Darkness. I quite enjoyed it. Bar the opening 2 minutes it pretty much plays out like the end of a Star Trek episode with the crew in the midst of an adventure, trying to evade alien locals on a pre-contact planet. I was expecting something perhaps a little darker in tone after the trailer but was happy that it seems to be pushing on from the adventurous and fun tone established in the previous film. I remember noting that much like the trailer, there was a lack of intrusive lens flare effects which is much appreciated and welcomed this time around! One side note though, I am just not interested in the mystery surrounding the identity of Benedict Cumberbatch's villain. Kahn or not I just don't care, I know I'm in for a good ride anyway.
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 14, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
Given all the speculation, I must say that I am excited for this movie. Star Trek has been one of my favorite Sci-fi sagas, and J.J. Abrams took me by surprise last time. I personally won't dwell on the tiny details until I see more of the film.
Mmm, its a rental for me. I don't like J.J's take on it - but surprisingly I didn't hate it when I absolutely thought I would.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 14, 2012, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 14, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
Given all the speculation, I must say that I am excited for this movie. Star Trek has been one of my favorite Sci-fi sagas, and J.J. Abrams took me by surprise last time. I personally won't dwell on the tiny details until I see more of the film.
Mmm, its a rental for me. I don't like J.J's take on it - but surprisingly I didn't hate it when I absolutely thought I would.
Honestly, it's the only Abrams movie I can tolerate. And I did like his version of Star Trek very much, even though it's not exactly what I wanted.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 14, 2012, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 14, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
Given all the speculation, I must say that I am excited for this movie. Star Trek has been one of my favorite Sci-fi sagas, and J.J. Abrams took me by surprise last time. I personally won't dwell on the tiny details until I see more of the film.
Mmm, its a rental for me. I don't like J.J's take on it - but surprisingly I didn't hate it when I absolutely thought I would.
What didn't sit well with you about it?
I really enjoyed 2009 Trek but TBH it just didn't feel like Star Trek. I still enjoyed it though, I'm looking forward to the next one so it isn't an issue, more an observation, I guess to some extent these reboots aren't supposed to feel entirely like what's gone before.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 14, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 14, 2012, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 14, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
Given all the speculation, I must say that I am excited for this movie. Star Trek has been one of my favorite Sci-fi sagas, and J.J. Abrams took me by surprise last time. I personally won't dwell on the tiny details until I see more of the film.
Mmm, its a rental for me. I don't like J.J's take on it - but surprisingly I didn't hate it when I absolutely thought I would.
What didn't sit well with you about it?
I suppose I don't like the fact that the Prime line was shuffled off to the side. It's hard to be brief about it really. That said, like I mentioned before I actually did enjoy it which was very surprising to me.
They played the nine minutes when I saw The Hobbit and it was awesome. I love the Planet they were on and the 3D looked amazing too.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?zjxzi009llx0xh2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?zjxzi009llx0xh2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?n8815046487vqn6 (http://www.mediafire.com/?n8815046487vqn6)
f**k, it's already been taken down.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 15, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM)
Excellent preview. I think it's safe to assume that Spock makes it out of there alive.
I found this on Tumblr, the text being; ♫Ain't no party like a jail cell party 'cause a jail cell party don staaaaap♫
((It looked like a massive subwoofer, so..))
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On the other hand, I'm WAY excited!
Download for those who missed it;
http://www.mediafire.com/?zjxzi009llx0xh2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?zjxzi009llx0xh2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?n8815046487vqn6 (http://www.mediafire.com/?n8815046487vqn6)
I can't get the downloaded file to play. :(
You're supposed to download both parts and extract the video file with winrar.
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 15, 2012, 07:04:43 PM
You're supposed to download both parts and extract the video file with winrar.
Got it. ;)
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 15, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM)
God.... just 9 minutes and this movie already shows how stupid it is.
Spoiler
If they are on a planet of alien cavemen why the hell are they hiding underwater instead of being in orbit like they ALWAYS DO in Trek?
And then they cant teleport because they dont have "line of sight?" What the hell does that mean? They are never in "line of sight " in freaking Trek when teleporting. Well, almost never. And then there's the fact that in the last movie Scotty with the help of Old Spock invented that super duper teleporter that could teleport people light years away into a target that is moving at Warp speed with little trouble and all of that sudden that was forgotten? Now some rock formations pose a problem?
God, seriously, these movies are as dumb as all the Transformers flick.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 15, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 15, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM)
God.... just 9 minutes and this movie already shows how stupid it is.
Spoiler
If they are on a planet of alien cavemen why the hell are they hiding underwater instead of being in orbit like they ALWAYS DO in Trek?
And then they cant teleport because they dont have "line of sight?" What the hell does that mean? They are never in "line of sight " in freaking Trek when teleporting. Well, almost never. And then there's the fact that in the last movie Scotty with the help of Old Spock invented that super duper teleporter that could teleport people light years away into a target that is moving at Warp speed with little trouble and all of that sudden that was forgotten? Now some rock formations pose a problem?
God, seriously, these movies are as dumb as all the Transformers flick.
I won't even bother replying to this post.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 15, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 15, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM)
God.... just 9 minutes and this movie already shows how stupid it is.
Spoiler
If they are on a planet of alien cavemen why the hell are they hiding underwater instead of being in orbit like they ALWAYS DO in Trek?
And then they cant teleport because they dont have "line of sight?" What the hell does that mean? They are never in "line of sight " in freaking Trek when teleporting. Well, almost never. And then there's the fact that in the last movie Scotty with the help of Old Spock invented that super duper teleporter that could teleport people light years away into a target that is moving at Warp speed with little trouble and all of that sudden that was forgotten? Now some rock formations pose a problem?
God, seriously, these movies are as dumb as all the Transformers flick.
Really? The first one was a pretty amazing flick, I can't see the video but I'm sure there's nothing in a 9 min clip to guarantee this is such a stupid movie, wait until it comes out to make claims like that please
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 15, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 15, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 15, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM)
God.... just 9 minutes and this movie already shows how stupid it is.
Spoiler
If they are on a planet of alien cavemen why the hell are they hiding underwater instead of being in orbit like they ALWAYS DO in Trek?
And then they cant teleport because they dont have "line of sight?" What the hell does that mean? They are never in "line of sight " in freaking Trek when teleporting. Well, almost never. And then there's the fact that in the last movie Scotty with the help of Old Spock invented that super duper teleporter that could teleport people light years away into a target that is moving at Warp speed with little trouble and all of that sudden that was forgotten? Now some rock formations pose a problem?
God, seriously, these movies are as dumb as all the Transformers flick.
I won't even bother replying to this post.
You know that you just did, right?
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 15, 2012, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Dec 15, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 15, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 15, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dnDUwzlv2ZM)
God.... just 9 minutes and this movie already shows how stupid it is.
Spoiler
If they are on a planet of alien cavemen why the hell are they hiding underwater instead of being in orbit like they ALWAYS DO in Trek?
And then they cant teleport because they dont have "line of sight?" What the hell does that mean? They are never in "line of sight " in freaking Trek when teleporting. Well, almost never. And then there's the fact that in the last movie Scotty with the help of Old Spock invented that super duper teleporter that could teleport people light years away into a target that is moving at Warp speed with little trouble and all of that sudden that was forgotten? Now some rock formations pose a problem?
God, seriously, these movies are as dumb as all the Transformers flick.
I won't even bother replying to this post.
You know that you just did, right?
I obviously meant writing a reply to the content of your post. I'm not retarded enough to say that while posting a reply.
JJ's Star Trek movies are nothing like Bayformers. The 2009 film was the best Star Trek movie since 1996. Love it or hate it, it was sure better then the last two TNG movies before it.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 15, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
JJ's Star Trek movies are nothing like Bayformers. The 2009 film was the best Star Trek movie since 1996. Love it or hate it, it was sure better then the last two TNG movies before it.
As big a fan as I am of ST, I never really did care for the movies all that much.
The movies got me into the franchise. I didn't know what Star Trek was until 1996 when First Contact came out when I was only five years old.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 15, 2012, 09:39:13 PM
The movies got me into the franchise. I didn't know what Star Trek was until 1996 when First Contact came out when I was only five years old.
Ah cool, have you gone back and watched the series? God, 5 years old... makes me feel old lol.
It been a while since I watched any of the shows. I might re-watch all of the shows on Netflix next year before the movie comes out. I hope Netflix will still have them by then.
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
It's a bit of a shame that aliens in the Star Trek universe, just basically look like humans with a bit of goofy make-up applied to them, speaking perfectly English and all that. What's the point of exploring alien worlds when the aliens you encounter, are basically just like us? :D
To some degree that's dealt with by the Progenitors.
And Scar and Daddy, behave guys. Thanks.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 15, 2012, 10:46:45 PM
Quote from: Eva on Dec 13, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
It's a bit of a shame that aliens in the Star Trek universe, just basically look like humans with a bit of goofy make-up applied to them, speaking perfectly English and all that. What's the point of exploring alien worlds when the aliens you encounter, are basically just like us? :D
To some degree that's dealt with by the Progenitors.
Exc8se my drunkin vodk a and coke self but yay for someone knows what they're talkin about!
Gah, I've gotta go through and watch all the series sometime. Most interested in TOS and TNG, but the others would be good, too.
I don't know much about Trek tv but how does Enterprise hold up as a prequel to the Original Series?
Quote from: First Blood on Dec 16, 2012, 12:46:34 AM
I don't know much about Trek tv but how does Enterprise hold up as a prequel to the Original Series?
I recently watched both, starting with
Enterprise, since that's a prequel and all.
Enterprise has some good characters, a few of which actually develop over the show's four seasons. As a prequel to TOS and the other shows, it does start laying the groundwork for stuff that turns up in TOS and the later shows, but much of the true prequel stuff shows up in the fourth season, even going so far as to have a two-parter explaining why Klingons in TOS lacked forehead ridges. The first two seasons of
Enterprise are a bit inconsistent in terms of quality, and the show at this point lacks direction as they're meandering about in space and going through some rather ordinary plots where Archer and crew screw around with alien civilizations, as the Prime Directive doesn't exist at that point.
The third and fourth seasons are vast improvements, with the third actually giving the show much-needed focus and taking it into a grittier direction. The fourth builds on this and starts laying the groundwork for stuff that turns up in TOS, such as the Romulan War that was mentioned in TOS as occurring one hundred years prior (at the time of
Enterprise), and in the fourth season of ENT there's a three-parter about a Romulan scheme to destabilize relations between different races, which acts as a sort of build-up to this war (however, the show was cancelled before this war could be portrayed in a firth, and perhaps sixth, season).
Some fans complain that ENT contradicts stuff in later shows, but Star Trek has always been inconsistent in terms of dealing with its canon. The amount of contradictions that show up in TOS concerning the date when it's set come to mind immediately. So, for me, a few apparent canon disruptions don't bother me.
I never bothered with ENT because I think Scott Bakula is an arrogant motherf**ker. I remember once watching one of his interviews and he actually had the nerve to say that he's the only ST captain that has ever bled. Like really? f**k off ::)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 17, 2012, 05:39:59 AM
I never bothered with ENT because I think Scott Bakula is an arrogant motherf**ker. I remember once watching one of his interviews and he actually had the nerve to say that he's the only ST captain that has ever bled. Like really? f**k off ::)
I never watched Enterprise but I used to love Quantum Leap, so maybe I'm biased, but I don't think that sounds arrogant as much as just misinformed.
oh yeah and as Cpl Hicks says, all the aliens look human for the same reason as in Stargate, because the galaxy was seeded with life by Humanoid aliens.
people laud Farscape for having more interesting aliens, but they are still predominantly humanoid, and that was never explained in the show.
also everyone speaking English is because they have advanced translators, and the failings of the translators are shown in several episodes such as the Darmok and Jalaad at Tenagra (sp?) episode etc.
I vaguely remember that the Farscape humanoids where descendants of "transplanted earth humans". My mind could be playing tricks on me, though. :laugh:
Farscape... Now that was a good show.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Dec 17, 2012, 01:06:24 PM
I vaguely remember that the Farscape humanoids where descendants of "transplanted earth humans". My mind could be playing tricks on me, though. :laugh:
The Peacekeepers/Sebastions were originally humans from Earth who had their evolution sped up if I recall.
On Bakula and Ent; I know the Captains tended to be focused on heavily, almost a tradition since Kirk, but I felt in later series it was toned down and other crew members could shine, but it felt to me that Bakula in practically in
every f***ing scene seriously I thought what the hell is the point of the crew since Captain Quantom Leap over there can fricken do it all himself. Sorry to rant but personally I felt bakula was one of the weakest elements in the show.
As for the humans seeding i thought it was only the species of teh Alpha quadrant that were seeded? If that is correct how to explain the unimagintaive Voyager aliens? (other than budget restrictions of course)
new trailer:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrekintodarkness/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrekintodarkness/)
I'll post YT when available
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZE4gqGV6HM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZE4gqGV6HM#ws)
Fantastic!
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 17, 2012, 04:39:37 PM
new trailer:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrekintodarkness/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrekintodarkness/)
I'll post YT when available
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZE4gqGV6HM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZE4gqGV6HM#ws)
...this has just been placed right on top of my most anticipated movies list.
Thanks for posting, most curious is the rows of people frozen in cryotubes at 0:55, very much hinting at the botany bay, but I'm still not jumping on the Kahn bandwagon. I wonder what all those people are doing there. The more they show the more questions and fewer answers it seems.
OH GAD MI NEPOLSE
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 17, 2012, 05:54:55 PM
OH GAD MI NEPOLSE
Oh sorry, sometimes my fingers get a mind of their own.
Don't worry about it.
Spoiler
In fact, keep going.
I wish I could feel the excitement everyone else is.. :(
I'm excited because of the good will the last movie earned, the visuals, and Cumberbatch.
Good to see some new stuff.
Loved that shot of Spock falling down in the city.
Fok more lens flare....
Wonderful new trailer. It's gonna be a great year for Sci-fi movies. Unf.
Absolutely fantastic.I loved the bit when they showed all the members of the ship, felt very grand.
Quote from: AvatarIII on Dec 17, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 17, 2012, 05:39:59 AM
I never bothered with ENT because I think Scott Bakula is an arrogant motherf**ker. I remember once watching one of his interviews and he actually had the nerve to say that he's the only ST captain that has ever bled. Like really? f**k off ::)
I never watched Enterprise but I used to love Quantum Leap, so maybe I'm biased, but I don't think that sounds arrogant as much as just misinformed.
It's hard to accept misinformed as an excuse considering he's playing what is basically the central role to a long-established franchise. If he wasn't familiar with ST to begin with, then he had no business playing a Star Trek captain.
Alice Eve will be playing Dr. Carol Marcus.
Quote"I play Dr. Carol Marcus, who, as you know, was in the original series and in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. In that, obviously, she has Kirk's full-grown son, but that isn't necessarily the case here. She's obviously highly qualified, highly intelligent, a weapons expert. It's my version, and J.J.'s version, because J.J. split the universe in 2009, and allowed for any eventuality to happen in this new incarnation. There was an element of artistic license we were given."
Benedict talks more about John Harrison:
Quote"John Harrison is a terrorist. He's a homegrown terrorist. He's a one man weapon of mass destruction. He's incredibly adept at close-hand combat and weaponry, as well as psychological warfare. He's very smart, very quick. He's a warrior. He's not two-dimensional. There's a great deal of soul to him, and there's a really strong reason of why he leaves the trail of destruction and devastation."
Viral website has gone live:
http://www.areyouthe1701.com/ (http://www.areyouthe1701.com/)
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Dec 18, 2012, 03:53:49 PM
Alice Eve will be playing Dr. Carol Marcus.
Quote"I play Dr. Carol Marcus, who, as you know, was in the original series and in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. In that, obviously, she has Kirk's full-grown son, but that isn't necessarily the case here. She's obviously highly qualified, highly intelligent, a weapons expert. It's my version, and J.J.'s version, because J.J. split the universe in 2009, and allowed for any eventuality to happen in this new incarnation. There was an element of artistic license we were given."
Benedict talks more about John Harrison:
Quote"John Harrison is a terrorist. He's a homegrown terrorist. He's a one man weapon of mass destruction. He's incredibly adept at close-hand combat and weaponry, as well as psychological warfare. He's very smart, very quick. He's a warrior. He's not two-dimensional. There's a great deal of soul to him, and there's a really strong reason of why he leaves the trail of destruction and devastation."
Viral website has gone live:
http://www.areyouthe1701.com/ (http://www.areyouthe1701.com/)
^Carol Marcus wasnt in the original series. Just saying is all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJb0cjEAS90#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJb0cjEAS90#ws)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 18, 2012, 04:37:58 AM
Quote from: AvatarIII on Dec 17, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 17, 2012, 05:39:59 AM
I never bothered with ENT because I think Scott Bakula is an arrogant motherf**ker. I remember once watching one of his interviews and he actually had the nerve to say that he's the only ST captain that has ever bled. Like really? f**k off ::)
I never watched Enterprise but I used to love Quantum Leap, so maybe I'm biased, but I don't think that sounds arrogant as much as just misinformed.
It's hard to accept misinformed as an excuse considering he's playing what is basically the central role to a long-established franchise. If he wasn't familiar with ST to begin with, then he had no business playing a Star Trek captain.
Many actors don't know as much about their shows as the fans do.
That's inexcusable. They should take the time to become familiar with major franchises if they're going to be part of it. Especially as actors, it's important to know the back-story.
No it isn't.
Nay! He should be strung up by the testicles for the most heinous of crimes of claiming to be the only Star Trek captain who bled!
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 22, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
That's inexcusable. They should take the time to become familiar with major franchises if they're going to be part of it. Especially as actors, it's important to know the back-story.
Can't agree with you here. They read their lines off the script. They don't have to be completely versed in the backstory - they got told all the story they need for their roles in the script. You know that. There's a reason we're called the fanatics, not them.
with the amount some of them earn in the big movies, they should know everything. anyhows i read that they all watched the original series before doing the first movie
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 22, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 22, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
That's inexcusable. They should take the time to become familiar with major franchises if they're going to be part of it. Especially as actors, it's important to know the back-story.
Can't agree with you here. They read their lines off the script. They don't have to be completely versed in the backstory - they got told all the story they need for their roles in the script. You know that. There's a reason we're called the fanatics, not them.
As an actor myself, I would take the time to get more in touch with the series so I really know what I'm getting myself into. But that's me.
Some actors do and some don't. Daniel Craig watched all the Bond movies before doing Casino Royale. But I don't think they should know every detail about what they're getting into. It's ludicrous. I doubt Ben Browder watched every episode of SG-1 before replacing Richard Dean Anderson.
Quote from: EEV2650 on Dec 18, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJb0cjEAS90#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJb0cjEAS90#ws)
Does anyone anywhere know where I can this thing that this guy just horribly spoiled.
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=71723 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=71723)
Hm. http://io9.com/5605836/china-mieville-explains-theology-magic-and-why-jj-abrams-hates-you (http://io9.com/5605836/china-mieville-explains-theology-magic-and-why-jj-abrams-hates-you)
QuoteIo9 - We began to talk about the difference between genre fiction and literary fiction, and somehow got onto the topic of JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon. Miéville feels that Abrams' career has been all about marketing, unlike Whedon. He said:
China Miéville - I've never met [JJ Abrams]. I am not a member of his fan club or anti-fan club. I disliked Cloverfield a very great deal. I disliked Star Trek intensely. I thought it was terrible. And I think part of my problem is that I feel like the relationship between JJ Abrams' projects and geek culture is one of relatively unloving repackaging - sort of cynical. I taste contempt in the air. Now I'm not a child - I know that all big scifi projects are suffused with the contempt of big money for its own target audience. But there's something about [JJ's projects] that makes me particularly uncomfortable. As compared to somebody like Joss Whedon, who - even when there are misfires - I feel likes me and loves me and is on some cultural level my brother and comrade. And I don't feel that way about JJ Abrams.
Sounds like a load of bullshit to me. Harlan Ellison loves JJ btw :laugh:
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-sequel-harlan-ellison-kofi-36051/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-sequel-harlan-ellison-kofi-36051/) (Maybe for 3?)
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=71728 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=71728)
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If Star Trek wasn't written on those covers, you'd swear they featuring another Matrix movie.
Yeah. This looks nothing like Star Trek. I can see old Star Trek fans hating it.
I remember when Trekcore.com reported on the recent trailer, the fans of that website seemed unanimous in their hatred of it. I think a lot of the older fans won't go for this one. I however liked TOS and I'm excited about this. The 9 minutes looked sweet
I love old Trek and new Trek. I don't see them as mutually exclusive in the least.
Nice to see Pike back. I really liked that character.
I loved Pike in the first one, it's nice to see he's back. :)
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 25, 2012, 07:32:27 PM
I love old Trek and new Trek. I don't see them as mutually exclusive in the least.
As do I, but the older generation are a picky bunch it would seem.
Fanbases. Hehe. Thankfully enough we have come to a point where they are not as influential as they used to be.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 26, 2012, 04:38:19 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 25, 2012, 07:32:27 PM
I love old Trek and new Trek. I don't see them as mutually exclusive in the least.
As do I, but the older generation are a picky bunch it would seem.
Not liking the new direction of the films doesnt make one picky.
Trek fans for decades now have become accustomed to the movie having a slightly different feel than the TV shows but these new flicks just happen to go a bit far. I dont think there is one Trek fan out there saying that if it's just like the TV show it's wrong.
Those first nine minutes shown with The Hobbit were incredible; can't wait for this!!!
Just so I'm clear on this: what's the big hullaboo concerning Benedict Cumberbatch? Is that he himself is playing a role in this, or just that there is a lot of speculation regarding who he is actually going to be in the film?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 27, 2012, 12:54:40 AMJust so I'm clear on this: what's the big hullaboo concerning Benedict Cumberbatch? Is that he himself is playing a role in this, or just that there is a lot of speculation regarding who he is actually going to be in the film?
Both, I think. Not being into the ST lore myself, I don't really care who he's playing. I'm just excited to see him as the villain, whoever that might be.
I can't see anyone disagring with the actor, What could they have against he is brilliant in anything he is in, and the new sherlock with any other actor would just be any other show.
First 9 minutes have been leaked!
Link..!
EDIT: Nevermind, found it... :)
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 28, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
First 9 minutes have been leaked!
LINK for the rest of us?
Quote from: Xenokiller on Dec 29, 2012, 02:26:24 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 28, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
First 9 minutes have been leaked!
LINK for the rest of us?
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27042&count=0 (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27042&count=0)
Merry Christmas
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 29, 2012, 02:30:42 AM
Quote from: Xenokiller on Dec 29, 2012, 02:26:24 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Dec 28, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
First 9 minutes have been leaked!
LINK for the rest of us?
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27042&count=0 (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27042&count=0)
Merry Christmas
EEEYYYOOOOOO-- *explodes*
Would love to see more of the Klingons in this than the first film (only in cut scenes) and maybe get Section 31 involved into the plot somehow.However its looking pretty good so far.
So is it alternate reality Khan or what?
^ 95% chance of that.
God I want a wallpaper of Spock with both arms out with all the lava in the background. ;D
When I seen the trailer it had a Khan vibe off it,had an argument with my mate about who the villiam actually is,but it always revolved around Khan.
I bet it involves some sort of slug.Show me your ear.
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Thought we knew who it was? John Harrison.
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2012, 06:44:17 PM
Thought we knew who it was? John Harrison.
You made me look it up and you're right. You have also ruined my evening. I hate you.
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Hey I have to say this is a class act by Mr. Abrams!!
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html)
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 03, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
Hey I have to say this is a class act by Mr. Abrams!!
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html)
Thanks for sharing that, thats a great story, very moving. So glad that they not only enjoyed the gesture, but the film as well.
Quote from: Gilfryd on Dec 30, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9ab6f7315df2b754ffcc03fab8695c44/tumblr_meuwwqY8Ca1r727kto1_400.jpg
It's scary how perfect that meme is.
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 03, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
Hey I have to say this is a class act by Mr. Abrams!!
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html)
And that is why life is worth living, because of people like J.J. Abrams. Kudos to you Sir.
Dying "Star Trek" Fan Passed Away, JJ Abrams Granted His "Star Trek 2" Wish
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD)
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 03, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
Hey I have to say this is a class act by Mr. Abrams!!
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/j-j-abrams-grants-trekkie-dying-wish-see-000643743.html)
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Jan 06, 2013, 06:45:48 PM
Dying "Star Trek" Fan Passed Away, JJ Abrams Granted His "Star Trek 2" Wish
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD)
That is a truly touching story. May Dan rest in peace.
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Jan 06, 2013, 06:45:48 PM
Dying "Star Trek" Fan Passed Away, JJ Abrams Granted His "Star Trek 2" Wish
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD)
That's very sad to hear. Hopefully the film will have a dedication to him in the end credits.
I recall Randy Pausch, the guy diagnosed with pancreatic cancer who did The Last Lecture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo#)), being a big Star Trek fan, and he was invited by JJ Abrams to have a cameo in the 2009 Star Trek (which he did have, though he passed in July 2008).
I think it's f**king awesome JJ Abrams did things like that for people.
f**k... that tugged my heart strings well.
I am glad to hear this.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Jan 06, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
I recall Randy Pausch, the guy diagnosed with pancreatic cancer who did The Last Lecture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo#)), being a big Star Trek fan, and he was invited by JJ Abrams to have a cameo in the 2009 Star Trek (which he did have, though he passed in July 2008).
I think it's f**king awesome JJ Abrams did things like that for people.
Here's the cameo you were talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFyY5f8Zmw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFyY5f8Zmw#ws)
So is Tyler Perry going to be in this one?
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Jan 06, 2013, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Jan 06, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
I recall Randy Pausch, the guy diagnosed with pancreatic cancer who did The Last Lecture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo#)), being a big Star Trek fan, and he was invited by JJ Abrams to have a cameo in the 2009 Star Trek (which he did have, though he passed in July 2008).
I think it's f**king awesome JJ Abrams did things like that for people.
Here's the cameo you were talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFyY5f8Zmw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFyY5f8Zmw#ws)
Ever since I looked that video up I always recognize him in that scene in subsequent Star Trek (2009) rewatches, heh.
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Jan 06, 2013, 06:45:48 PM
Dying "Star Trek" Fan Passed Away, JJ Abrams Granted His "Star Trek 2" Wish
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27110&count=0#ixzz2HDrB5LyD)
Rest well Sir. I'm glad you were able to die happy, at least.
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Looks awesome! :D
Is Issue #1 out yet?
Issue #1 came out in December last year, that is the cover for Issue #4
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Cut footage from an episode. I'm calling it.
I wonder when we'll start seeing more official promotion for this film! We've only really got 4 months or so left before release.
Phasers look like cap guns.
Lame
J.J. Abrams calls Star Trek Into Darkness his most "fun and challenging" filmmaking experience in this featurette
http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864 (http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864)
Here's hoping the film restores some of the interesting aspects of the tv show. :P
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jan 30, 2013, 06:26:32 PM
Here's hoping the film restores some of the interesting aspects of the tv show. :P
I'm surprised they didn't make "Bones" a female, just like the idiots did with "Starbuck" in BSG.
Alternate timeline crap is so obvious now.
Just wait. Star Wars Time travelers is the plot for Episode 7.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 30, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jan 30, 2013, 06:26:32 PM
Here's hoping the film restores some of the interesting aspects of the tv show. :P
I'm surprised they didn't make "Bones" a female, just like the idiots did with "Starbuck" in BSG.
Alternate timeline crap is so obvious now.
Just wait. Star Wars Time travelers is the plot for Episode 7.
Lol Do I hear complaining about possibly the best Sci-fi show with brilliant writers and the mega-successful Star Trek reboot? Its hard to type while laughing so hard. :P
Rest assured I look forward to this film, even moreso than I thought I would due to the clever marketing. I myself would like to see a return to the much deeper darker days of trek like the amazing Menagerie/Cage pilot episode and the less dark but just as thought provoking 'Where No Man Has Gone Before' episode.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 30, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jan 30, 2013, 06:26:32 PM
Here's hoping the film restores some of the interesting aspects of the tv show. :P
I'm surprised they didn't make "Bones" a female, just like the idiots did with "Starbuck" in BSG.
Alternate timeline crap is so obvious now.
Just wait. Star Wars Time travelers is the plot for Episode 7.
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Speaking of Star Trek, I'm surprised J.J. is directing the new Star Wars. I imagine the death threats will be flowing out very soon.
Since Star Trek was fairly awesome, Star Wars fans should be grateful.
Indeed, but...angry ST fanboyz.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2013, 05:51:54 AM
Indeed, but...angry ST fanboyz.
ST's hardcore fandom is terrible. I don't give a f**k.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 30, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jan 30, 2013, 06:26:32 PM
Here's hoping the film restores some of the interesting aspects of the tv show. :P
I'm surprised they didn't make "Bones" a female, just like the idiots did with "Starbuck" in BSG.
Alternate timeline crap is so obvious now.
Just wait. Star Wars Time travelers is the plot for Episode 7.
They couldn't because the time-line was exactly the same up until Nero arrived back in time, which would have been AFTER Bones was born.
http://youtu.be/AGF5ROpjRAU (http://youtu.be/AGF5ROpjRAU)
This needs to be in the film ASAP!
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Jan 30, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
J.J. Abrams calls Star Trek Into Darkness his most "fun and challenging" filmmaking experience in this featurette
http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864 (http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864)
What happened, some one told him to tone down the lens flare so he had to find other ways to add them?
Star Trek Into Darkness Launches Interactive Super Bowl App
Earlier this month, we reported that Paramount Pictures is teaming up with Qualcomm for a special smartphone app tied to the release of Star Trek Into Darkness, which will feature a special surprise unveiled during the second quarter of Super Bowl XLVII. With the big game just a few days away, the iPhone version has launched at the Apple store, with the Android version being released later today. We're still not sure what this app will unlock during the game on Sunday, but you can click on the photo to download the app for your iPhone. You can also read on for more details about what you can do with this unique application, plus details on a sweepstakes where fans can win a trip to the Star Trek Into Darkness premiere.
During the second quarter of the big game, the app will allow users the ability to unlock the first of many surprises during the airing of the Star Trek Into Darkness tv-spot, making this one of the most unique and interactive apps ever created for a movie. As a bonus, users who register for the app will be automatically entered into a sweepstakes for the chance to win a VIP trip to the U.S. premiere. To be the first to get the app and enter the sweepstakes, visit StarTrekMovie.com/CES.
Highlights of the app include:
An audio scan function that can be turned on to automatically recognize and reward users for watching Star Trek Into Darkness content on TV and other media;
An image scan function that enables users to interact with images printed or viewable in the real world;
A geofencing function for location-based experiences;
New Star Trek Into Darkness content, such as videos, images and wallpapers delivered directly to users' mobile devices;
Exclusive opportunities and special offers only available to app users;
One lucky sweepstakes winner will be rewarded with the grand prize of attending the Star Trek Into Darkness U.S. premiere.
http://www.movieweb.com/news/star-trek-into-darkness-launches-interactive-super-bowl-app (http://www.movieweb.com/news/star-trek-into-darkness-launches-interactive-super-bowl-app)
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jan 31, 2013, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Jan 30, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
J.J. Abrams calls Star Trek Into Darkness his most "fun and challenging" filmmaking experience in this featurette
http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864 (http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864)
What happened, some one told him to tone down the lens flare so he had to find other ways to add them?
Haven't heard that one before.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 31, 2013, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jan 31, 2013, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Jan 30, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
J.J. Abrams calls Star Trek Into Darkness his most "fun and challenging" filmmaking experience in this featurette
http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864 (http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46864)
What happened, some one told him to tone down the lens flare so he had to find other ways to add them?
Haven't heard that one before.
And you are going to hear a lot more of it when the movie comes out.
Be prepared.
Or you could just, y'know, take the needle off that broken record you have there.
I liked the lens flare, I thought it was stylish :P
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Jan 31, 2013, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2013, 05:51:54 AM
Indeed, but...angry ST fanboyz.
ST's hardcore fandom is terrible. I don't give a f**k.
Star Wars' fanbase is no better...seems to me like they practically insulted George Lucas out of the director's chair for the rest of his life.
Thankfully enough they have not as much influence as they used to.
Regardless of the fanbases, I pumped for both movies. Especially Star Trek.
Yup I agree 100%. Loved Abrams' first film.
Nothing against the new SW but there's far more known information about the new ST.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tqEo6IVwSo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tqEo6IVwSo#ws)
Quote from: Shasvre on Feb 03, 2013, 10:17:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tqEo6IVwSo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tqEo6IVwSo#ws)
AWESOME! :D
Holeh sheet. The Enterprise....
OMG!!! The Enterprise is going to be destroyed!!! :o
nnnnnnoooooooooooooooooo
"I am better... than everything."
Sherlock Holmes is a kind of a douche, lol.
Lame Super Bowl trailer. Why must every movie wreck skyscrapers now?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 04, 2013, 12:28:17 AM
"I am better... than everything."
Sherlock Holmes is a kind of a douche, lol.
That'd be true if he couldn't back it up.
Thie best thing about the Into Darkness superbowl trailer is that it aided me in convincing a friend into borrowing the first season bluray of Sherlock.
You know with upcoming Star Trek and Star Wars movies, I think I'd like a new movie called 'Star Shrek', sort of a stand-alone Shrek film with no relation to the others, parodying Star Wars, Star Trek and space sci-fi movies in general, could be funny. I liked the last Family Guy's take on Star Wars, I think they could make something funny, or at least way better than series like Scary Movie and such.
He's 13.....just remember, he's 13.
I didn't watch the Super Bowl. Any ideas on how long it'll be before this trailer is online?
If only someone had invented some sorta thingie that would search the internet, and also a site where people could stick videos...
What, I just assumed it would be a while. Sue me :P
On what grounds, sir?
I dunno. We just got home, and I easily drank a case on my own. Cut me slack.
its on the previous page too lol
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 04, 2013, 12:28:17 AM
"I am better... than everything."
Sherlock Holmes is a kind of a douche, lol.
It was actually:
"I am better."
"At what?"
"Everything."
Makes a little more sense compared to '
than'. :D
Nice trailer.
Quote from: Vermillion on Feb 04, 2013, 01:07:29 AMLame Super Bowl trailer. Why must every movie wreck skyscrapers now?
I'm sorry, but it's not a new trend. And
why the hell would you possibly complain about that? Are people really
that desperate to bitch about anything these days? I don't give a f**k about what gets wrecked as long as the movie itself looks good, which is something up for debate if you wish. But complaining about skyscrapers getting f**ked isn't a valid point of critique, it's just stupid IMO.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 04, 2013, 04:33:13 AM
I didn't watch the Super Bowl. Any ideas on how long it'll be before this trailer is online?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mu07BaOx9c#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mu07BaOx9c#ws)
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Feb 04, 2013, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Feb 04, 2013, 01:07:29 AMLame Super Bowl trailer. Why must every movie wreck skyscrapers now?
I'm sorry, but it's not a new trend. And why the hell would you possibly complain about that? Are people really that desperate to bitch about anything these days? I don't give a f**k about what gets wrecked as long as the movie itself looks good, which is something up for debate if you wish. But complaining about skyscrapers getting f**ked isn't a valid point of critique, it's just stupid IMO.
Really. You sure. Positive?
What are you bitching about? Seems petty too...don't you think? Don't ya?
Lack of originality. Is my point.
Quote from: Vermillion on Feb 05, 2013, 02:33:07 AM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Feb 04, 2013, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Feb 04, 2013, 01:07:29 AMLame Super Bowl trailer. Why must every movie wreck skyscrapers now?
I'm sorry, but it's not a new trend. And why the hell would you possibly complain about that? Are people really that desperate to bitch about anything these days? I don't give a f**k about what gets wrecked as long as the movie itself looks good, which is something up for debate if you wish. But complaining about skyscrapers getting f**ked isn't a valid point of critique, it's just stupid IMO.
Really. You sure. Positive?
What are you bitching about? Seems petty too...don't you think? Don't ya?
Lack of originality. Is my point.
I'm bitching about bitching about petty stuff. :P
BITCHINGCEPTIONBut it's okay, you're allowed to have your opinion. And I'm allowed to disagree and provide you with some critique, just excuse my often outbursts of mad and look past them. ;)
Scarhunter92 where did you get that amazing sig?
Uh, I just cropped and resized a wallpaper I found.
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I hope Cumberbatch will be a great and memorable villain just like Khan.
Five new photos from Star Trek Into Darkness, featuring Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, and Zoe Saldana
http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46992 (http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/46992)
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'Dat suit. :-*
She's thin as hell.
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'Dat suit. :-*
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Quote from: Rick Grimes on Feb 07, 2013, 08:30:34 PM
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'Dat suit. :-*
http://ticketstubrefund.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/star-trek-1.jpg
Yeah, but your smile tells another tell Uhura. It's all good if you're one for inter-species erotica. No judgements here.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 09, 2013, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Feb 07, 2013, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: Shasvre on Feb 07, 2013, 05:09:01 PM
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'Dat suit. :-*
http://ticketstubrefund.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/star-trek-1.jpg
Yeah, but your smile tells another tell Uhura. It's all good if you're one for inter-species erotica. No judgements here.
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What? It's true, considering he's Vulcan.
Only half.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 11, 2013, 01:35:43 AM
What? It's true, considering he's Vulcan.
I don't suppose you've seen Clerks 2. :laugh:
Nope, can't say I have.
Wait a minute! Where's the chick?!
EVERY nerd should see Clerks 2. If for no other reason, the Star Wars vs. Lord of the Rings debate.
Quote from: Ruadh on Feb 11, 2013, 04:20:36 AM
Wait a minute! Where's the chick?!
EVERY nerd should see Clerks 2. If for no other reason, the Star Wars vs. Lord of the Rings debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKbyWSwd7hk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKbyWSwd7hk#)
Though I enjoy both Star Wars, and LOTR...my favorite part of that is the guy on the side that says, "F***in' A."
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=74434 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=74434)
motion poster
J.J. Abrams Says Star Trek Into Darkness Klingons Are Different from the Previous Klingons
http://www.movieweb.com/news/j-j-abrams-says-star-trek-into-darkness-klingons-are-different-from-the-previous-klingons (http://www.movieweb.com/news/j-j-abrams-says-star-trek-into-darkness-klingons-are-different-from-the-previous-klingons)
So...how are they different, exactly? Are they white?
They have ONE MORE RIDGE.
OUTRAGEOUS
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Feb 11, 2013, 04:40:06 AM
Quote from: Ruadh on Feb 11, 2013, 04:20:36 AM
Wait a minute! Where's the chick?!
EVERY nerd should see Clerks 2. If for no other reason, the Star Wars vs. Lord of the Rings debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKbyWSwd7hk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKbyWSwd7hk#)
LOTR trilogy did feature a ton of walking...to the grammys!
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f**kin' A.
Quote from: Shasvre on Mar 06, 2013, 10:53:25 PM
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nicccccceeeeeee
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Striking and monolithic; love it.
In hopefully a few days I'll finally be able to join in on the hype for this. Ordered the first film 8)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 07, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
In hopefully a few days I'll finally be able to join in on the hype for this. Ordered the first film 8)
Dude, yes. I think you're going to love it. :)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 07, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
In hopefully a few days I'll finally be able to join in on the hype for this. Ordered the first film 8)
Oh man... you are going to love it, I can tell.
And I have probably talked about this before, Nightmare, but I think you're going to find something familiar about a certain scene. ;)
Spoiler
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Quote from: Shasvre on Mar 07, 2013, 09:26:24 AM
And I have probably talked about this before, Nightmare, but I think you're going to find something familiar about a certain scene. ;)
Spoiler
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Spoiler
Thor going all Cap on Eric Bana's ship. 8)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 07, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
In hopefully a few days I'll finally be able to join in on the hype for this. Ordered the first film 8)
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Spock's giving out high fives? He's becoming more human everyday.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 08, 2013, 04:36:14 AM
Spock's giving out high fives? He's becoming more human everyday.
Spock, oh gawd. Spock? Wat happened? :c
You know, I loved the first film and I was so eagerly looking forward for the sequel, but... This looks NOTHING like Star Trek... And looks NOTHING like the reboot film .__.
I don't think I'll watch this on theaters .___.
STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS SCREENS THE FIRST 30 MINUTES OF THE FILM IN LONDON. NEW MINI-SPOILER REVEALED!
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/star-trek-into-darkness-screens-the-first-30-minutes-of-the-film-in-london-new-spoilers-revealed (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/star-trek-into-darkness-screens-the-first-30-minutes-of-the-film-in-london-new-spoilers-revealed)
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Mar 07, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 07, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
In hopefully a few days I'll finally be able to join in on the hype for this. Ordered the first film 8)
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqrd1iFWOb1qht847.gif
I just noticed the bitter security guard in the background on the right. I really hope Kirk makes him look stupid at some point, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws)
Holy shit, this looks wonderful.
Set your phasers to ultra-fun!
Quote from: Magegg on Mar 08, 2013, 09:57:08 PM
You know, I loved the first film and I was so eagerly looking forward for the sequel, but... This looks NOTHING like Star Trek... And looks NOTHING like the reboot film .__.
I don't think I'll watch this on theaters .___.
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Quote from: ace3g on Mar 09, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws)
Nice trailer; although it didn't excite me as much as the others did.
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Quote from: Rick Grimes on Mar 10, 2013, 12:53:25 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 09, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws)
Nice trailer; although it didn't excite me as much as the others did.
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Wow! Is that an official poster?
Yes it is :)
Somebody remember where we parked!
Michael Giacchino @m_giacchino
Star Trek Into Darkness orchestra recording is complete - now for the MIX. http://instagr.am/p/Wr6wjwFdjj/ (http://instagr.am/p/Wr6wjwFdjj/)
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 09, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws)
Well f**k, that's awesome. Anyone else get a Star Trek IV vibe from the fish scene?
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 10, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
Michael Giacchino @m_giacchino
Star Trek Into Darkness orchestra recording is complete - now for the MIX. http://instagr.am/p/Wr6wjwFdjj/ (http://instagr.am/p/Wr6wjwFdjj/)
Oh yeah, Giacchino is the man!
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 09, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZcxkFZZP0#ws)
Check out the Dead Space moment starting at :27. Thruster flying through floating debris.
fake poster
http://trekmovie.com/2013/03/12/stid-tidbits-t-65-days-pine-leads-trek-orchestra-11pm-fan-sneaks-peggs-london-premiere-invite-poster-fake/ (http://trekmovie.com/2013/03/12/stid-tidbits-t-65-days-pine-leads-trek-orchestra-11pm-fan-sneaks-peggs-london-premiere-invite-poster-fake/)
That sucks! Fan posters are always better than official ones so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
I like that fan poster more than the official one we got
That awkward moment when fan made posters are better than actual studio made posters.
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I can see the bottom pic become a reaction pic for forums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws)
WOW!!! ;D
oMFOGmogmomfgomfomgfomgfomgomffffffffffffgggggggggggggg
OMFGomgomgomgogmomgomgomgomg
Spoiler
omg
OOOOOOMG
Ah Christ, man. This is gonna be a good movie.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Mar 21, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws)
Wow, looks fantastic. Star Wars is in good hands.
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=76139 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=76139)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2F4708789ec2b1e2bfccb23c10e897218f%2Ftumblr_mk09c63NGY1rpyy91o3_500.gif&hash=c0d63fe4f8fe0036172eaf784c30a5d9ff99eaef)
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Quote from: scarhunter92 on Mar 21, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws)
Sick.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Mar 21, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws)
Well...that looks
excellent.
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 21, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
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Sorry, what are we talking about again? I'm having a hard time focusing.
If I weren't so distracted I'd probably see what you did there...
^
:)
screen grabs:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=76145 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=76145)
Robocop: The Last Frontier
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"I will walk over your cold corpses."
I think I need a hug.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Mar 21, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws)
Holy shit! Now that's what I'm talking about!
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 21, 2013, 04:49:57 PM
screen grabs:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=76145 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=76145)
Robocop: The Last Frontier
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Robocop reboot? f**k that. Just put Weller back in the suit. Looks like he can give it another go'round too.
Benedick Cucumbercatch is a beast.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Mar 21, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 21, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
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Sorry, what are we talking about again? I'm having a hard time focusing.
I thought this was Star Trek :-\
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 22, 2013, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Mar 21, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 21, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
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Sorry, what are we talking about again? I'm having a hard time focusing.
I thought this was Star Trek :-\
It's Kirk getting lucky. Pure TOS.
dude.. this IS star trek. :laugh:
Before the next generation "cleaned everything up" :P grrr.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 22, 2013, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Mar 21, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 21, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
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Sorry, what are we talking about again? I'm having a hard time focusing.
I thought this was Star Trek :-\
Just paint her green then...jesus.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 22, 2013, 03:55:08 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 22, 2013, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Mar 21, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 21, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
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Sorry, what are we talking about again? I'm having a hard time focusing.
I thought this was Star Trek :-\
It's Kirk getting lucky. Pure TOS.
Lol, I guess so. It just seems forced though obviously I should wait for the film.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Mar 21, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_ll8smfKeRb1qbmxomo1_400.gif&hash=d86eea4c5893006225239d68dd86c4d916deed93)
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 22, 2013, 08:39:30 AM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Mar 21, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_EZOa6YZw#ws)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll8smfKeRb1qbmxomo1_400.gif
This...I have no words
EXTENDED TRAILER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkOYr83Jao#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkOYr83Jao#ws)
^First off I love your 1701-A sig
Carol Marcus is looking pretty damn good :-*
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=76283 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=76283)
John Carpenter and Kurt Russell reunited!!!
Two New Stills From STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS Released
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=76323 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=76323)
Are those Klingon weapons?
Quote from: TJ Doc on Mar 24, 2013, 01:45:27 PM
John Carpenter and Kurt Russell reunited!!!
YES!!!!!
YUSS
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Quote from: Shasvre on Mar 24, 2013, 04:56:54 PM
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Can't tell if that is a set photo, or official still from movie.
Looks like a miniature to me. which is sweet.
Is that a space coffin or something?
You know, more than anything, I can't wait to see Urban and Pegg on-screen. They're the comic relief of this new ST iteration.
I'm just steeling myself for all the Dredd jokes the internet is gonna be flooded with.
Crossover time!
...in a comic, that is.
New trailer is looking good...can't wait..!
For no reason whatsoever, I don't trust that blonde chick... :P
Germany tv spot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UsZT3rvN6Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UsZT3rvN6Q#ws)
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Mar 24, 2013, 01:57:21 PM
Two New Stills From STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS Released
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=76323 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=76323)
Kirk looks f**ked up in the top picture!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.comicbookmovie.com%2Fimages%2Fuploads%2Fempirescan-1.jpg&hash=2e3d0c9f74202dd5786560357bf69ab0676036df)
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http://collider.com/star-trek-into-darkness-app-image/ (http://collider.com/star-trek-into-darkness-app-image/)
some new scanned images:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=76653 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=76653)
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=76715 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=76715)
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It's going to suck.
Prelude to wtf moment for all Star Trek and Star Wars fans.
Quote from: Vermillion on Mar 31, 2013, 08:59:55 PMIt's going to suck.
Prelude to wtf moment for all Star Trek and Star Wars fans.
Uh, okay.
Quote from: Vermillion on Mar 31, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
It's going to suck.
Prelude to wtf moment for all Star Trek and Star Wars fans.
The heck are you talking about?
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 31, 2013, 06:42:37 PM
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I
love this.
JJ jumps the shark.
This trek is going to be like "Batman and Robin".
Too much of everything happening all at once.
He'll do the same with episode VII. Too many characters to much to tell in 2 hours.
Quote from: Vermillion on Apr 01, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
JJ jumps the shark.
This trek is going to be like "Batman and Robin".
Too much of everything happening all at once.
He'll do the same with episode VII. Too many characters to much to tell in 2 hours.
Tell me more about the future.
Are the humans dead?
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 01, 2013, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Apr 01, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
JJ jumps the shark.
This trek is going to be like "Batman and Robin".
Too much of everything happening all at once.
He'll do the same with episode VII. Too many characters to much to tell in 2 hours.
Tell me more about the future.
You will waste $15 to see this movie.
Tell me, when does the profesised Second Coming of Elvis happen?
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 01, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
Tell me, when does the profesised Second Coming of Elvis happen?
You mean the third?
Ah, you speak of the Pretender. The False-Shepherd who appeared to lead us astray.
That was not the second.
Actually, this groovy guy was the second:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lf4bcoSc0F1qg5mjxo1_400.jpg&hash=d3818c9b3c57df743a5ffd094d4d5a8b1d1e15d8)
But only after he retired from his demon slaughtering days in the 1300s.
Quote from: Vermillion on Apr 01, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
This trek is going to be like "Batman and Robin".
Star Trek V is already the Batman & Robin of the Trek Franchise :D ::).
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 01, 2013, 10:14:26 PM
Ah, you speak of the Pretender. The False-Shepherd who appeared to lead us astray.
That was not the second.
Wait....Jacks back?
Major STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS Spoiler About Benedict Cumberbatch's Character
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=76908#mF35oXIwv9Za0Tm3.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=76908#mF35oXIwv9Za0Tm3.99)
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Apr 03, 2013, 10:35:57 AM
Major STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS Spoiler About Benedict Cumberbatch's Character
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=76908#mF35oXIwv9Za0Tm3.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=76908#mF35oXIwv9Za0Tm3.99)
Hmmm...Really?
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=76926 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=76926)
With Kirk's head in the way, it makes it look like the magazine is called SEX.
Giacchino Tweets Into Darkness Music Clips + Performing ST09 Score Live In Switzerland Next Week
http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/03/giacchino-tweets-into-darkness-music-clip-performing-st09-score-live-in-switzerland-next-week/ (http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/03/giacchino-tweets-into-darkness-music-clip-performing-st09-score-live-in-switzerland-next-week/)
some older pics in better quality:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=77171 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=77171)
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Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 03, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
With Kirk's head in the way, it makes it look like the magazine is called SEX.
Ha! I thought the same too :laugh:
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=77274 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=77274)
Shit just got f**king real. He was hilarious in the first one! :D
Best f**king character in the entire last movie!
Deserves his own spin-off show.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Apr 09, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
Deserves his own spin-off show.
Fok no.
Focus on the three main characters JJ.
You telling me you wouldn't watch Star Trek: Whatchamajigger on Saturday mornings?
Quote from: TJ Doc on Apr 09, 2013, 08:14:22 PM
You telling me you wouldn't watch Star Trek: Whatchamajigger on Saturday mornings?
It would give everyone a reason to wake up early on Saturday mornings once again, that's for f**king sure.
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 09, 2013, 04:34:02 PM
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=77274 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=77274)
That was a he?!
Why would you think that was a she? :D
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 10, 2013, 12:04:31 AM
Why would you think that was a she? :D
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She is beautiful...
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 10, 2013, 12:04:31 AM
Why would you think that was a she? :D
Height and voice I guess :P
I love this new trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws)
Quote from: EEV2650 on Apr 10, 2013, 04:50:10 AM
I love this new trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws)
Holy shit. :laugh:
Now they have a legitimate excuse for fighting at geriatric speeds :D. I love Bill shatner. I might buy this game for that trailer alone :D
Quote from: EEV2650 on Apr 10, 2013, 04:50:10 AM
I love this new trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws)
"Ok, now you're overacting."
Look who's talking Bill :P
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Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 10, 2013, 05:23:34 AM
Quote from: EEV2650 on Apr 10, 2013, 04:50:10 AM
I love this new trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hemOCl-xk#ws)
"Ok, now you're overacting."
Look who's talking Bill :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnTwkT9pYlE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnTwkT9pYlE#ws)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 10, 2013, 12:10:31 AM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 10, 2013, 12:04:31 AM
Why would you think that was a she? :D
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She is beautiful...
I liked you better when you were referencing
Bubba Ho-Tep.
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Awesome poster.
Quote from: Shasvre on Apr 12, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
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Best poster released so far!
Apple says new trailer coming Tuesday
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Here is the HD version from Apple
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So can we have a double poster with Ironman and the Enterprise both falling towards each other now?
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Apr 12, 2013, 08:30:46 PM
So can we have a double poster with Ironman and the Enterprise both falling towards each other now?
Like I said earlier. Rehash movies that are reboots. Just copy and paste.
Sad.
Can we combine the Iron Man 3 poster and the Star Trek poster... with the World War Z poster?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XpOXcUsWRI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XpOXcUsWRI#ws)
"you have a reputation Capt Kirk" ....."will not fit, will fit, will fit" lol
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http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/14/spock-faces-the-volcano-in-new-star-trek-into-darkness-poster (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/14/spock-faces-the-volcano-in-new-star-trek-into-darkness-poster)
Posted earlier but larger version;
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another clip from MTV movie awards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRjU5x3x_AQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRjU5x3x_AQ#ws)
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 13, 2013, 08:12:56 PM
Can we combine the Iron Man 3 poster and the Star Trek poster... with the World War Z poster?
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Close enough? :laugh:
Lol, just about. Now get Brad Pitt in there.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 15, 2013, 09:25:14 PM
Lol, just about. Now get Brad Pitt in there.
First thing I thought of too!
Quote from: Shasvre on Apr 15, 2013, 08:11:56 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 13, 2013, 08:12:56 PM
Can we combine the Iron Man 3 poster and the Star Trek poster... with the World War Z poster?
(https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/472/1544/original.jpg)
Close enough? :laugh:
Love it :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_rPApKCA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_rPApKCA#ws)
You win, Star Trek.
Right, so my anticipation for Star Trek Into Darkness was through the roof as it was. After seeing that mindblowing trailer, I can honestly say that my anticipation is through the f**king roof, up through our Earth's atmosphere, into space, and all the way to Qo'noS with anticipation!
When Kirk turns to his crew and says, "I'm sorry!" Looks to be one hell of an emotional sequence. And then, CHAOS CHAOS CHAOS! :D
That was f**king fantastic. Star Wars: Episode VII is in good hands as long as the script is good.
Holy f**k!
1080p:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws)
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 16, 2013, 03:52:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_rPApKCA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_rPApKCA#ws)
Well, consider me hyped as well. Best trailer so far. 8)
My dad bought his first computer a few months ago, the first one internet connected and he's been following all the news, all the trailers and TV spots, the interviews etc. This is the first time he's ever followed a movies progress like this and he's well and truly on the hype train.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 16, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
1080p:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws)
GOOD CHRIST.
Yup. Gimmie.
Yeah, last month :)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 12, 2013, 11:25:48 PM
Star Trek (2009)
Apart from a few odd episodes of the original series (which I quite liked) and one episode of The Next Generation, I've never really seen any of the Star Trek media. That being said, I really enjoyed this film. Had a lot of fun with it, and loved how they tied it into the old stuff while still letting it take on a life of its own. I already plan on watching it again at least once before the sequel comes out.
So yeah, bring on Star Trek Into Darkness 8)
Great movie, and this looks to be even greater. I'm rarely so confident without caution in my excitement for movies, but this really does bring that out of me.
Odd or even, I don't give a damn, this looks absolutely fantastic. Looking to be approaching Wrath of Khan-levels of greatness.
Cumberbatch's character on one of the new starships:
"Dreadnought Class; two times the size, three times the speed, advanced weaponry, minimal crew....built solely for combat."
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 16, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
1080p:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws)
That was beautiful :'(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLZ9yECMJ0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLZ9yECMJ0#ws)
Damn, his voice is awesome.
This guy will f**king own as Smaug.
Smaug? I thought his name was John Harrison ;0
Quote from: SuperM on Apr 19, 2013, 07:54:07 PM
Smaug? I thought his name was John Harrison ;0
He's the dragon. Do you see?
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 19, 2013, 06:53:55 PM
This guy will f**king own as Smaug.
And The Necromancer. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X58lCTp55U#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X58lCTp55U#ws)
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 19, 2013, 04:56:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLZ9yECMJ0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLZ9yECMJ0#ws)
Great ad.
But it's not a viral video.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 16, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
1080p:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws)
My pants just exploded o_O.
On another note, and forgive me if this has already explained, but was that an Excelsior-class vessel I saw confronting the Enterprise?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 20, 2013, 04:29:23 AM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Apr 16, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
1080p:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeiZc0DfkDE#ws)
My pants just exploded o_O.
On another note, and forgive me if this has already explained, but was that an Excelsior-class vessel I saw confronting the Enterprise?
There's a Cumberbatch quote where he calls it a Dreadnought class ship.
Would have been a shocker if the U.S.S. Reliant came out of warp instead.
I wonder when we can start to expect some reviews. It shouldn't be too long now I imagine. The film opens here in the UK in 17 days.
I hope the movie lives up to the first movie and won't be another step down similar how Iron Man 2 and Lost World: JP were.
Well, going off the other second Trek movie, I have a good feeling.
I'm watching Star Trek right now and it's so damn good. If Star Trek Into Darkness is even just as good then it's a job well done. :D
Lol Reliant. In our sector. And slowing...
With the same music cues...
>tfw i have to wait until july to see it
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Fun fact: in Israel, the title translates to Star Trek: The Enemy Among Us.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 22, 2013, 05:39:46 PM
Fun fact: in Israel, the title translates to Star Trek: The Enemy Among Us.
That's odd. Why the change in title, I wonder?
Probably just sounds better.
"Ha'Oyev BeTokhenu" sounds better than "LeTokh Hoshekh".
Actually, both work, I guess.
First clip: http://latino-review.com/2013/04/22/film-clip-star-trek-darkness/ (http://latino-review.com/2013/04/22/film-clip-star-trek-darkness/)
YT version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFls6CMcrEI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFls6CMcrEI#ws)
Review from IGN
http://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/23/star-trek-into-darkness-igns-review (http://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/23/star-trek-into-darkness-igns-review)
new character posters
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=78100 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=78100)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXEcBPxfHps#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXEcBPxfHps#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fd7n1f7Db0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fd7n1f7Db0#ws)
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=78118 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=78118)
So..... according to one review...
(BIG SPOILER HERE)
Spoiler
Benedict Cumberbatch IS Khan.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Apr 23, 2013, 08:34:30 PM
So..... according to one review...
(BIG SPOILER HERE)
Spoiler
Benedict Cumberbatch IS Khan.
Spoiler
Kahn Harrison? Cumberbatch plays a member of starfleet who went rogue on a quest for vengeance, Kahn was never in starfleet.
Quote from: Nrage on Apr 24, 2013, 04:00:21 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Apr 23, 2013, 08:34:30 PM
So..... according to one review...
(BIG SPOILER HERE)
Spoiler
Benedict Cumberbatch IS Khan.
Spoiler
Kahn Harrison? Cumberbatch plays a member of starfleet who went rogue on a quest for vengeance, Kahn was never in starfleet.
Major spoilers
Spoiler
From what I've heard, he's just Kahn. And he's working alongside a Starfleet officer that went Rogue.
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 23, 2013, 08:09:37 PM
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From that angle, it looks like a Sovereign-class vessel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Fj_xow4kE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Fj_xow4kE#ws)
So, do we know who John Harrison really is yet? Just a yes or no please. Don't really want any spoilers this close to release.
yes.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Apr 23, 2013, 08:34:30 PM
So..... according to one review...
(BIG SPOILER HERE)
Spoiler
Benedict Cumberbatch IS Khan.
Spoiler
That sounds rather silly to me. Hopefully it's handled well but why is Khan now white?
I read that
Spoiler
Leonard Nimoy has a cameo in the film.
Has anybody else heard anything about this?
EDIT: Doesn't matter. I've found out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrA-sSJNbGw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrA-sSJNbGw#ws)
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Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Apr 25, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrA-sSJNbGw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrA-sSJNbGw#ws)
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I wonder who shoots first.
I really hope that when the film ends, prior to the end credits, we get a shot of the U.S.S. Enterprise in space, with Kirk (as opposed to Spock Prime in Star Trek) narrating, "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before." And then, the end credits begin!
But, I have a feeling we won't get that :(
Might get something with "continuing mission", though.
"5-year" would be nice to finally hear again.
Quote from: Michael Harper on Apr 25, 2013, 06:30:06 PM
I really hope that when the film ends, prior to the end credits, we get a shot of the U.S.S. Enterprise in space, with Kirk (as opposed to Spock Prime in Star Trek) narrating, "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before." And then, the end credits begin!
But, I have a feeling we won't get that :(
Well, if we do they might change it to "where no one has gone before" rather than "where no man" in order to keep the PC folks happy.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 26, 2013, 05:02:02 AM
Quote from: Michael Harper on Apr 25, 2013, 06:30:06 PM
I really hope that when the film ends, prior to the end credits, we get a shot of the U.S.S. Enterprise in space, with Kirk (as opposed to Spock Prime in Star Trek) narrating, "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before." And then, the end credits begin!
But, I have a feeling we won't get that :(
Well, if we do they might change it to "where no one has gone before" rather than "where no man" in order to keep the PC folks happy.
I believe they've already done that.
Aye. Star Trek VI did that; had Kirk saying the original version, then correcting himself with the latter.
Worked quite well, considering the themes of that film.
I think TNG said "no one" as well.
God! The scene still puts a lump in my throat. I sure did love that original cast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrizm2gnQBo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrizm2gnQBo#ws)
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Quote from: EEV2650 on Apr 26, 2013, 05:36:37 AM
God! The scene still puts a lump in my throat. I sure did love that original cast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrizm2gnQBo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrizm2gnQBo#ws)
Ah man, I love this scene. It's one of the best endings to any movie ever :')
"If I were human, I believe my response would be, go to hell. If I were human." :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg58hVEY5Og#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg58hVEY5Og#ws)
Best. Space. Battle. Ever.
The only thing I would change about that scene was to have Sulu help out more, like he was supposed to before Shatner's ego got in the way.
You mean there was a change in the script?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 26, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
You mean there was a change in the script?
Yep. The Excelsior crew was supposed to create the special torpedo, but Shatner insisted that Kirk should never be rescued.
If it would have happened as you just described it wouldnt have been as good. This was the original casts final movie and the send off of the Enterprise A. You can't have the Excelsior crew one up the Enterprise.
You can have them lend more of a hand, though. Especially considering it's Sulu commanding it. Kirk was who he was because of the crew he had to support him, even if said crew is on another vessel.
Nonetheless, great send off for the original cast. I just wish Kelley and Doohan were still around.
Ever seen the Voyager episode "Flashbacks"? It was a episode devoted entirely to the story of the Excelsior and it's attempts to rescue Kirk and McCoy from Raura pente (sp?)
I have not; I enjoy each of the TV series, but haven't seen all of the episodes of any of them. Plan to begin correcting this over the summer.
That one sounds really interesting, though. Hafta give it a watch.
EDIT: Actually, having read a brief synopsis of the episode, I have seen it! A very, very long time ago, and I barely remember it, but there's some recollection of it.
It was made as voyagers nod of the hat to Star Trek's 30th anniversary. DS9 released "Trials and Tribble-ations". The latter was better.
Quote from: EEV2650 on Apr 26, 2013, 06:40:36 PM
Ever seen the Voyager episode "Flashbacks"? It was a episode devoted entirely to the story of the Excelsior and it's attempts to rescue Kirk and McCoy from Raura pente (sp?)
Rura Penthe ;)
I'll look up that episode as well. One thing I do wish we saw more of in Voyager was Q. He only had one or two episodes as I recall.
Hey! I was close enough :D.
Wow! You havent seen "Flashbacks" either? :o. Am I the only trek geek here who's watched every episode from every season? (Enterprise not included). Q had even less appearances on DS9. He showed up once on the episode "Q-less".
Which incidentally, is my favourite DS9 episode of the ones I've seen. The boxing match scene was awesome.
"You hit me. Picard never hit me."
"I'm not Picard!"
I loved that quote. It just prepared us for how badass Sisko was going to go on to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAx6GZyPuQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAx6GZyPuQ#ws)
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 29, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAx6GZyPuQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAx6GZyPuQ#ws)
Wow awesome clip, love the mysterious dialogue and the music is perfect.
Wow, that was pretty f**king good.
Quote from: EEV2650 on Apr 29, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
Hey! I was close enough :D.
Wow! You havent seen "Flashbacks" either? :o. Am I the only trek geek here who's watched every episode from every season? (Enterprise not included). Q had even less appearances on DS9. He showed up once on the episode "Q-less".
I'm gonna be doing that soon. I'm not much of a Trekkie; always been a fan, but only recently have I become really interested in watching the shows.
I've been wanting to get more into DS9, honestly. I thought it was kind of an obscure offshoot, not very good, but everyone I know that's watched it really enjoys it. I also love the station design and the characters.
As for Into Darkness, I'm so happy these newer trailers look much better than the 'supervillain disaster' flick it originally looked like. The only thing bugging me is this trend towards having the Enterprise fight increasingly bigger, blacker ships. :-\ I mean come on, it's kind of Straus Bros. The ship is evil, we get it. You don't have to make each one bigger and blacker than the last, lol.
Everything else looks fantastic, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc8a55Zc5HQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc8a55Zc5HQ#ws)
fan made
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIztKzWCQAE5jQs.jpg:large)
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IMAX poster
http://collider.com/mark-englert-star-trek-imax-poster/ (http://collider.com/mark-englert-star-trek-imax-poster/)
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Is the release day done in Stardate? :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcTFw8v1izY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcTFw8v1izY#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0W1awW4nE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0W1awW4nE#ws)
new IMAX poster:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJH8yfNCQAIqbCe.jpg:large)
Quite the contrast there. I don't think size difference was that significant from what I saw in the trailer though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCNHXKZ4yc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCNHXKZ4yc#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGj6PFTAero#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGj6PFTAero#ws)
HQ of Vengeance
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Quote from: DoomRulz on May 01, 2013, 01:04:58 AM
Quite the contrast there. I don't think size difference was that significant from what I saw in the trailer though.
Yeah maybe a bit
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You know, I was just thinking. I would like to see a new Star Trek video game that has ship-to-ship combat a la Bridge Commander or the SFC series set in the new universe. Flying around in these new vessels I think would be pretty sweet.
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Quote from: SuperM on May 01, 2013, 09:51:06 AM
http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/admiralbuzzkill.gif
Throwback to the first movie? :D
Quote from: SuperM on May 01, 2013, 09:51:06 AM
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Pretty much just a week to go until the premiere now. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfn7we2m5V8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfn7we2m5V8#ws)
You are one ugly motherf**ker...
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Quote from: Nrage on May 01, 2013, 04:15:30 PM
You are one ugly motherf**ker...
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....... Not sure if I like that yet
Quote from: Nrage on May 01, 2013, 04:15:30 PM
You are one ugly motherf**ker...
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Oh Lord, is that the new Klingon look? Yeesh :-\
Give him a goatee and he's fine.
Quote from: Remonster on May 01, 2013, 07:37:34 PM
Give him a goatee and he's fine.
I knew there was something missing, Klingons gotsta have sum facial hairs.
found this online
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HQ of that other IMAX poster
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Damon Lindelof Hints That The Klingons Will Be The Main Villains In STAR TREK 3
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=78798#ellB2e4hE0MfqvdX.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=78798#ellB2e4hE0MfqvdX.99)
Some really cool posters for the previous movies.
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Those look good but a pretty poster can't salvage the fact that TMP was beyond boring.
The Motion Picture was alright, the only ST movie that felt true to the series, alas it did suffer from trying to hard to be 2001: A Space Odyssey, which makes it difficult to watch and it lulls quite a bit. If they hadn't of done that it would've been one of the best ST movies I think. I just favor the more intelligent thought-provoking side of ST, I rather miss it and hope they bring back some of those elements.
Four and six were thought-provoking I thought but managed to keep it entertaining. TMP missed the point. ST invokes thought yes but it also keeps it entertaining in the long run.
ouch it gets a 4/10 on comingsoon, but it was to be expected, the trailer did not impress me
The Imax poster looks alot better than all the other ones.
had an exclusive clip on tv last night,was kinda cool.
Quote from: Shasvre on May 03, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
Some really cool posters for the previous movies.
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I like these a lot. I've enjoyed all of these movies with the exception of
The Final Frontier. They missed the mark on that film.
Aye, agreed. It could've been great. But it just... wasn't.
What do you guys think is the best Trek film, by the way? Personally, I can't decide between Wrath of Khan and Star Trek.
I have only seen the '09 movie. :-[
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 05, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
Aye, agreed. It could've been great. But it just... wasn't.
What do you guys think is the best Trek film, by the way? Personally, I can't decide between Wrath of Khan and Star Trek.
Can't argue with those two choices. I would also say
The Voyage Home. Despite the silly premise, it's arguably the most entertaining and accessible. There's enough there to welcome both new and old fans alike. It's also self aware of how damn absurd it is. :D
Double dumbass on you!
First Contact is pretty high up there for me. Not sure if it knocks down 09, Wrath, or Voyage though.
Quote from: First Blood on May 05, 2013, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 05, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
Aye, agreed. It could've been great. But it just... wasn't.
What do you guys think is the best Trek film, by the way? Personally, I can't decide between Wrath of Khan and Star Trek.
Can't argue with those two choices. I would also say The Voyage Home. Despite the silly premise, it's arguably the most entertaining and accessible. There's enough there to welcome both new and old fans alike. It's also self aware of how damn absurd it is. :D
Double dumbass on you!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yeah,
Voyage Home was great. It's about a 3-way tie for second favourite between that,
Search for Spock, and
The Undiscovered Country.Quote from: KiramidHead on May 05, 2013, 04:46:10 PM
First Contact is pretty high up there for me. Not sure if it knocks down 09, Wrath, or Voyage though.
I enjoyed
First Contact, but there quite a few things that irritated me about it.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 05, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
Aye, agreed. It could've been great. But it just... wasn't.
What do you guys think is the best Trek film, by the way? Personally, I can't decide between Wrath of Khan and Star Trek.
Star Trek VI. Aside from featuring the greatest space battle in sci-fi history, like ever, it had a great message: people are afraid of change which is very real. It was also a terrific send-off for the original cast. The ending always makes me cry a little.
Yes, I loved that movie.
And Shakespeare-quoting-Christopher-Plummer-Klingon was f**kin' ace.
Happy 71st Birthday to Marc Alaimo, aka Gul Dukat from DS9!!
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/alaimo (http://www.startrek.com/database_article/alaimo)
Quote from: Xan21 on May 05, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
ouch it gets a 4/10 on comingsoon, but it was to be expected, the trailer did not impress me
Why only 4/10?
Quote from: Xan21 on May 05, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
ouch it gets a 4/10 on comingsoon, but it was to be expected, the trailer did not impress me
That's a single review.
It currently has an 8.6 on IMDB and 78% on RT.
IGN also give it a pretty good review as well. I tend to see it for myself since fanboys will nit pick about the dumbest things.
I shall reserve judgement 'til after I see it. What to these movie reviewers know anyways?
Quote from: Shasvre on May 03, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
Some really cool posters for the previous movies.
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Those are soooo cool. I'd pay alot of money to have those all framed and on my living room wall. Any idea if these can be bought?
http://www.hollywood.com/news/movies/55008497/star-trek-into-darkness-trailer-analysis-john-harrison-klingon-khan?page=all (http://www.hollywood.com/news/movies/55008497/star-trek-into-darkness-trailer-analysis-john-harrison-klingon-khan?page=all)
The problem with this guys theory of Harrison being a Klingon in disguise is that in the trailers we get glimpses of Harrison fighting Klingons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfBH-XFdSc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfBH-XFdSc#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP0hnnCNbkI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP0hnnCNbkI#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvMUAAGFfWg#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvMUAAGFfWg#ws)
beginning reminds me of 1:28 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqGwnAolSs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqGwnAolSs#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w1pqBaThMQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w1pqBaThMQ#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ9WjwvsHhw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ9WjwvsHhw#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CunYOx8OkwM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CunYOx8OkwM#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMzn64JOh0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMzn64JOh0#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCVj6zh9obA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCVj6zh9obA#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6KW5ejJk04#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6KW5ejJk04#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_NsBpgOgjY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_NsBpgOgjY#ws)
edgarwright @edgarwright 6h
There are 2120 shots in 'Star Trek Into Darkness'. I directed one of them. Looking forward to seeing the other 2119. pic.twitter.com/hu165p7PPN
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I saw it two weeks ago and i think it was pretty much a solid, rip-roaring film. Full on adventure, brilliant acting, great plot and simply the summer movie to beat in my books.
Just saw the movie, was thoroughly entertained. benedict was kick-ass!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG5vywn1YRU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG5vywn1YRU#ws)
Quote from: bobby brown on May 10, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
Just saw the movie, was thoroughly entertained. benedict was kick-ass!!
Yup.
Saw this earlier.
Entertaining to watch and a decent sequel to the last one. More hand-to-hand battles than spaceship combat, which surprised me. Could actually predict the plot twists which were going on, but it was enjoyable to watch, so, much like knowing the ship's going to sink in '
Titanic', that didn't really matter because it was portrayed well.
Only one real criticism, but
do not click on this unless you have seen it - contains a huge major spoiler.
Spoiler
Never been a fan of Benedict. Sure he's a lovely chap in person, but he has one of those faces, like Jack Black, which I have an irrational need to punch. Still, while he acted well...
Why did they make Khan a white guy?! Even the name makes it obvious he's not meant to be!
Torn between satisfaction and disappointment with that performance, actually. Satisfaction, because he presented a villainous personality which seemed formidable, but dissatisfied because he hadn't bothered to give that iconic character any of the same kind of body language or vocal rhythms. Didn't need to be an exact impersonation (although, Urban's McCoy is still extremely good, precisely because he reflects the original actor's turn so well), but this version should have been named something else. Why even bother if he's going to have such a different personality? Cold and methodical (and even a little bitchy), instead of being cat-like and cunning.
So, yes, torn a bit... If they had named him someone else and just had Khan's name imprinted upon one of the capsules, that would have had a darker impact. He both looked, sounded and felt like a completely different character. Might as well have gone the whole distance and simply had him be strongly 'influenced' by Khan's strategies.
Aside from that (perhaps relatively trivial) point, I liked and thought it set up things well for another sequel. One of those films where you can tell it's like pieces on a chess board being moved into place for the next act, but still happens to be a fun ride.
I have a big question :P
*MAJOR SPOILERS*
Spoiler
WHy couldn't they use any blood from the 72cryo people? it had to be khans?
Spoiler
Because McCoy and the rest of the crew didn't know how to open the cryotubes without killing the person inside.
Quote from: Gazz on May 11, 2013, 09:03:42 AM
Spoiler
Because McCoy and the rest of the crew didn't know how to open the cryotubes without killing the person inside.
Spoiler
Uhm Yeah, they did, like when they took a cryo capsule to keep kirks corpse fresh. they clearly remove the guy inside and MCcoy says "keep him in an induced coma" and he clarly wasent reffering to kirk. why didnt they take that guys blood?
Spoiler
My guess was that McCoy had already developed some kind of formula with Khan's blood. That creature (forgive me for forgetting the name) that McCoy has on his desk and tests the regenerative capabilities on doesn't seem to regenerate until later in the movie, which leads me to assume that it was not a refined version of the formula. Something like that anyway. :P
Quote from: Magneto on May 11, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
Spoiler
My guess was that McCoy had already developed some kind of formula with Khan's blood. That creature (forgive me for forgetting the name) that McCoy has on his desk and tests the regenerative capabilities on doesn't seem to regenerate until later in the movie, which leads me to assume that it was not a refined version of the formula. Something like that anyway. :P
Well, nice try, but I am going to have to call plot hole on this :P
Still liked the movie, go see it y'all.
Spoiler
I can't remember talk of an induced coma and just assumed it was a cryotube kept on the ship for medical or scientific reasons. If so, it's a plot regardless of which ever way you look at it as we're still left with the question of how McCoy opened the tub in the first place without killing the inhabitant since he stated he had no idea on the workings of the tech.
Nonetheless, I enjoyed the film a hell of a lot.
Haven't seen this yet (for the obvious reason of living in America), but (without spoilers) is Cumberbatch every bit as awesome as the trailers make him out to be?
Quote from: bobby brown on May 11, 2013, 07:39:32 AM
I have a big question :P
*MAJOR SPOILERS*
Spoiler
WHy couldn't they use any blood from the 72cryo people? it had to be khans?
Spoiler
Thought that's precisely what they were going to do, actually. Seemed like the most obvious course of action. Puzzled me. Maybe there was a deleted scene which would have explained it?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 11, 2013, 09:36:16 PM
Haven't seen this yet (for the obvious reason of living in America), but (without spoilers) is Cumberbatch every bit as awesome as the trailers make him out to be?
He's pretty much like that in every scene he appears, yeah.
Sometimes a little bit
too much... Made me have a mental image of things like him going to the shops and saying, "
GIVE ME THE LOCATION TO YOUR FINEST SELECTION OF GROCERIES. >:("
hahaha yeah! I liked him a lot. he is a very fierce and cunning character.
But there are moments when cumberbatch's is just in to high gear :P
with very exaggerated facial expressions and stuff.
But he gets some great moments in the film.
Quote from: bobby brown on May 12, 2013, 08:33:18 AM
But there are moments when cumberbatch's is just in to high gear :P
Well he's an intense motherf**ker, so that's just porn to my ears. :D
Okay, I just stepped into this thread recently. So please excuse me if this question's been brought up already;
Spoiler
Now I'm not a big Star Trek fan. I've watched a few of the old movies and a few of the TV shows, but all that was over a decade ago. Also mind you, I've read very little about ID to avoid spoilers. So here's my question; does anybody feel that the name Khan was slapped onto villain's name for no reason (besides maybe marketing purposes)? Now again, it's been a while since I watched the old movies, but the new Khan here seems to have hardly any resemblance to the older incarnation, besides being a baddie of course.
Maybe I'm missing something, but could something fill me in without spoiling too much please?
Quote from: Charles Xavier on May 12, 2013, 09:09:41 AM
Okay, I just stepped into this thread recently. So please excuse me if this question's been brought up already;
Might want to slap some spoiler tags on that post, mate.
Quote from: Gazz on May 12, 2013, 09:23:33 AM
Quote from: Charles Xavier on May 12, 2013, 09:09:41 AM
Okay, I just stepped into this thread recently. So please excuse me if this question's been brought up already;
Might want to slap some spoiler tags on that post, mate.
For real! Sheesh!
Quote from: Charles Xavier on May 12, 2013, 09:09:41 AM
Okay, I just stepped into this thread recently. So please excuse me if this question's been brought up already;
Spoiler
Now I'm not a big Star Trek fan. I've watched a few of the old movies and a few of the TV shows, but all that was over a decade ago. Also mind you, I've read very little about ID to avoid spoilers. So here's my question; does anybody feel that the name Khan was slapped onto villain's name for no reason (besides maybe marketing purposes)? Now again, it's been a while since I watched the old movies, but the new Khan here seems to have hardly any resemblance to the older incarnation, besides being a baddie of course.
Maybe I'm missing something, but could something fill me in without spoiling too much please?
Nope, no I dont.
I feel like this is the story JJ wanted to tell. they dont even market
Spoiler
kahn
in this movie :P he was offcicially marketed as "
Spoiler
john harrison
"
and the movie does deliver a thought out narrative :P ...
mostly.
Quote from: Gazz on May 12, 2013, 09:23:33 AM
Quote from: Charles Xavier on May 12, 2013, 09:09:41 AM
Okay, I just stepped into this thread recently. So please excuse me if this question's been brought up already;
Might want to slap some spoiler tags on that post, mate.
Done. I didn't know this was a surprise though. I thought they revealed the name already. :-[
People who dont want to be spoiled ought to stay out of this thread.
Quote from: bobby brown on May 12, 2013, 09:38:51 AM
People who dont want to be spoiled ought to stay out of this thread.
Hey, now. Let's keep our comments friendly here.
No they shouldn't. People should have a place to debate their expectations or other various non-spoilery aspects of the film pre release. After all, it's not out everywhere and it doesn't take much to add a couple of spoiler tags.
Quote from: Charles Xavier on May 12, 2013, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: bobby brown on May 12, 2013, 09:38:51 AM
People who dont want to be spoiled ought to stay out of this thread.
Hey, now. Let's keep our comments friendly here.
I reckon my comment is susceptible for interpretation of rudeness.
I apologize.
Still, just saying.
People who dont want to be spoiled
might want to stay out of this thread.
Quote from: bobby brown on May 12, 2013, 10:20:55 AM
Quote from: Charles Xavier on May 12, 2013, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: bobby brown on May 12, 2013, 09:38:51 AM
People who dont want to be spoiled ought to stay out of this thread.
Hey, now. Let's keep our comments friendly here.
I reckon my comment is susceptible for interpretation of rudeness.
I apologize.
It's cool, dude. Just try not to do it again. ;)
As for 'Star Trek: Into Darkness', that movie isn't coming out here until late August. Oh, woe is me... :-[
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Very Brad Bird-ish. ;)
watching the original star trek episode of
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space seed
now.
watch it. great stuff.
Saw it on Thursday and loved it!
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Big Spoiler.
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Especially loved the scene when Kirk died! The feels man.
I'm over in the UK (Denmark doesn't get it until June :'(, told my other half I wanted to come over to see her, actually I wanted to see Star Trek early;))for a few weeks and just got back from seeing this today and loved though I too had a slight issue with...
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As much as I enjoyed Cumberbatch's version of Khan I have to wonder if it was best making him Khan. Wouldn't it have been better if he was a different member of the Botany Bay crew and one of the cryo-tubes was simply marked 'Khan' as another poster suggested? If this was a typical reboot I'd say fair enough, this is still Khan but just a new version, except this is the Star Trek reboot, the whole premise of these reboots is that Nero coming back in time is responsible for the new timeline. My problem is, is that Khan was created loooong before Nero came back in time so surely Khan should still be the same ethnicity (though yes I do apprecitae that Khan original was played by a Latino actor rather than an Indian actor that the name ''Khan Noonien Singh'' would suggest). The original casting of Benicio Del Torro makes obvious sense now. Either way, I still really enjoyed Cumberbatch's performance.
I also loved the 'new' Klingons, I really hope we se more of them.
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I'm over in the UK (Denmark doesn't get it until June :'(, told my other half I wanted to come over to see her, actually I wanted to see Star Trek early;))for a few weeks and just got back from seeing this today and loved though I too had a slight issue with...
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As much as I enjoyed Cumberbatch's version of Khan I have to wonder if it was best making him Khan. Wouldn't it have been better if he was a different member of the Botany Bay crew and one of the cryo-tubes was simply marked 'Khan' as another poster suggested? If this was a typical reboot I'd say fair enough, this is still Khan but just a new version, except this is the Star Trek reboot, the whole premise of these reboots is that Nero coming back in time is responsible for the new timeline. My problem is, is that Khan was created loooong before Nero came back in time so surely Khan should still be the same ethnicity (though yes I do apprecitae that Khan original was played by a Latino actor rather than an Indian actor that the name ''Khan Noonien Singh'' would suggest). The original casting of Benicio Del Torro makes obvious sense now. Either way, I still really enjoyed Cumberbatch's performance.
I also loved the 'new' Klingons, I really hope we se more of them.
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I agree. As good as Cumberbatch was his character should have been a new Villian. I hate this whole "remember stuff you love well here it is again. And again. And again. And KAAAAAHHHNNN!
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I've been reading here n there that the odd person isn't happy with the way this film feels likes a parody of Star Trek. In other words they are simply sticking in the same scenes from the original films but reversing them eg. Spock screams 'Khan!!' instead of Kirk etc...
Seeing as this universe is new and free from the original lore, why not be a bit more creative? instead of doing the same thing but flipped around...is what I've read.
Plus I've read its chock full of plot holes?
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You might want to put that post in spoiler tags Hubbs, not out in US for a week or 2 yet and those details aren't common knowledge.
Also pretty much yes to what you asked, still a really enjoyable movie though.
Quote from: Charles Xavier on May 12, 2013, 09:09:41 AM
Okay, I just stepped into this thread recently. So please excuse me if this question's been brought up already;
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Now I'm not a big Star Trek fan. I've watched a few of the old movies and a few of the TV shows, but all that was over a decade ago. Also mind you, I've read very little about ID to avoid spoilers. So here's my question; does anybody feel that the name Khan was slapped onto villain's name for no reason (besides maybe marketing purposes)? Now again, it's been a while since I watched the old movies, but the new Khan here seems to have hardly any resemblance to the older incarnation, besides being a baddie of course.
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Yep. Like I said earlier, they should've just made him one of Khan's reawakened crew. I honestly feel that seeing Khan's name on one of the pods, right at the end, could have felt really ominous. This version just didn't look/behave/sound like him.
Because of that, I'd be both curious and worried about what Abrams' take on the Borg might be, but he's going to be involved in a different franchise now, so... That's inevitably for another director.
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I remember that as being one of the most awesome shots in the film. Also when they first arrive and see the Enterprise for the first time. I hope this is as entertaining as the first film and that's coming from a Star Trek noob :)
Quote from: Eva on May 12, 2013, 09:21:23 PMI remember that as being one of the most awesome shots in the film. Also when they first arrive and see the Enterprise for the first time.
Those were both great. My favorite shot is when Enterprise drops out of warp outside Vulcan and finds themself in a killing field.
That was pretty insane... like speeding towards a solid object in you car with 200 kmph, hitting the brakes at the exact right time and the car coming to a halt 1 mm from the object.
Awesome. :D
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A though occured, they could have put a referrence in the movie of Admiral Markus having Khan change his appearance to better fit in with his code name of John Harrison, that way we can have a new take on Khan without it seeming odd that Cumberbatch is playing a guy called 'Khan'.
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on May 12, 2013, 10:33:47 PM
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A though occured, they could have put a referrence in the movie of Admiral Markus having Khan change his appearance to better fit in with his code name of John Harrison, that way we can have a new take on Khan without it seeming odd that Cumberbatch is playing a guy called 'Khan'.
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
Just watched it. Probably the most mediocre plot I have ever seen. I didn't hope something better, actually.
5/10
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Just watched it. Probably the most mediocre plot I have ever seen. I didn't hope something better, actually.
5/10
How dare you troll in this sacred Star Trek thread.
Quote from: Aspie on May 13, 2013, 03:02:29 AMHow dare you troll in this sacred Star Trek thread.
Not trolling. My sheer opinion. Absurd plans one side, obvious solutions in the other ::)
Not even going to discuss plotholes/absurd things, because there would be not an end. And they doesn't even matter, everything was so obviously set up without total disregard of interest, sense or logic to lead to the dramatic scenes the writers wanted.
The actors performances were great, the movie is not boring, but the plot is so freaking boring and mediocre the movie felt like a total waste for me.
But again, I was not expecting much from it.
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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It matters because they even have Spock The Elder reiterate his full name, with all its obvious connotations.
But skin tone is almost trivial. What really matters is that his personality is completely different. His voice, his mannerisms, his body language - even his way of thinking. The poetic, playful cunning, which always made the character so compelling to watch, is gone.
Doesn't necessarily mean that this character is worse (although, I'd argue that this version won't be as memorable as the original), but it does make him unquestionably different. It's an entertaining film, but it definitely left me with the impression that it was pointless making him out to be the same character when they went to such lengths (whether intentionally or accidentally) to make them nothing alike.
Here's the complete soundtrack ;)
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4upKTv0oWJs1yfXGGIhPke3cDxc5xBZS (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4upKTv0oWJs1yfXGGIhPke3cDxc5xBZS)
8/10 fantastic film!
Chris Pine gave an outstanding performance, and is the best thing about the movie. There is so much depth in his performance, and he still manages to bring in parts of Shatner's Kirk as well. 10/10 from him. I cannot believe how good he was. All this talk about Cumberbatch.. yeah he was very good (he didn't have much to do, to be fair) but Pine was better.
Loads of great bits from Spock, Bones and Scotty. Despite the fact that JJ has said this is a standalone film, there are tons of bits from the previous Trek movie (and others), especially the negative connotations of Spock Prime's interference in the previous flick.
The effects are top-notch, JJ has improved directorially, there are less lense flairs, its easier to see what is happening, and the engineeering section is a massive improvement over the previous movie.
The story isn't great, and the movie suffers in the mid section because of it, but the ending was great none-the-less. It felt like a Star Trek movie (the last one didn't really)
There were a couple of bits that didn't work.
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Spock shouting KHAAANNN was so lame, it must, must be cut from the dvd/blu release. It really did not work. And the bit with the security guard on the Vengence was a bit stupid.
Edit ~ I also thought Bruce Greenwood was fantastic again as Pike, and the relationship between Pike and Kirk was great. It was also really cool to see the model of the NX-01 on the desk in starfleet HQ, next to a few ships, that previously had only appeared as artwork on the USS Enterprise in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
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Nice one posting the soundtrack. It's better than the music in the last movie (i really like London Calling, Kronos Wartet, Brigadoom), but still not as good as the original movie soundtracks imo... it had a couple of great bits, and i bet its very tough to score a movie that moves as fast as this one does.
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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It matters because they even have Spock The Elder reiterate his full name, with all its obvious connotations.
But skin tone is almost trivial. What really matters is that his personality is completely different. His voice, his mannerisms, his body language - even his way of thinking. The poetic, playful cunning, which always made the character so compelling to watch, is gone.
Doesn't necessarily mean that this character is worse (although, I'd argue that this version won't be as memorable as the original), but it does make him unquestionably different. It's an entertaining film, but it definitely left me with the impression that it was pointless making him out to be the same character when they went to such lengths (whether intentionally or accidentally) to make them nothing alike.
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I haven't seen it yet, does this mean they left out Kahn's rockin mullet?
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Quote from: Remonster on May 13, 2013, 02:12:29 AM
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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It matters because they even have Spock The Elder reiterate his full name, with all its obvious connotations.
But skin tone is almost trivial. What really matters is that his personality is completely different. His voice, his mannerisms, his body language - even his way of thinking. The poetic, playful cunning, which always made the character so compelling to watch, is gone.
Doesn't necessarily mean that this character is worse (although, I'd argue that this version won't be as memorable as the original), but it does make him unquestionably different. It's an entertaining film, but it definitely left me with the impression that it was pointless making him out to be the same character when they went to such lengths (whether intentionally or accidentally) to make them nothing alike.
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I haven't seen it yet, does this mean they left out Kahn's rockin mullet?
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No awesome white mullet, no awesome tan, no quoting Shakespeare, a very different Khan indeed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNFDh83RwTk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNFDh83RwTk#ws)
Does that guy model himself on Ask A Ninja on purpose?
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/334449559801573376 (https://twitter.com/devincf/status/334449559801573376)
Quote"@boborci: @devincf: U lost weight?" Yeah, from vomiting through the last 20 minutes of STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS.
Critic Devin Faraci to Bob Orci, one of the movie's writers. :laugh:
And his review: http://badassdigest.com/2013/05/14/star-trek-into-darkness-spoiler-review/ (http://badassdigest.com/2013/05/14/star-trek-into-darkness-spoiler-review/)
Spoiler: He really didnt like it.
My theater is late getting this movie in till tomorrow.
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 15, 2013, 11:22:26 PMAnd his review: http://badassdigest.com/2013/05/14/star-trek-into-darkness-spoiler-review/ (http://badassdigest.com/2013/05/14/star-trek-into-darkness-spoiler-review/)
Spoiler: He really didnt like it.
I almost entirely agree with this review... The only points I don't, it's the comparisons between ID and Star Trek II, since I haven't watched the latter.
But, yeah, I agree. I just cannot understand how most of the people say it's a great movie. It's a very stupid one.
Also, it's just a very generic movie. Anyone notice recently every movie is about fighting a terrorist?
Fighting terrorists in movies made during the War on Terror? Almost as absurd as fighting Russians in movies made during the Cold War! Or Germans made during the World Wars!
Shit's unheard of.
(Dat sexy set)
Completely preposterous.
(Right back atcha)
http://io9.com/star-trek-into-dumbness-507058729 (http://io9.com/star-trek-into-dumbness-507058729)
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 16, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
http://io9.com/star-trek-into-dumbness-507058729 (http://io9.com/star-trek-into-dumbness-507058729)
Although the complaints are reasonable, some of them were things that bugged me too, I actually really enjoyed the movie and thought this review was a little harsh, even if it does have a point.
Also I enjoyed Into Darkness much more that IM3 personally.
From the 'Last Movie You Watched' thread:
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Star Trek Into Darkness
Well, that was fantastic. Easily my favorite movie of 2013 so far. The cast retains its excellent chemistry that has only been expanded on since the first film, Benedict Cumberbatch's John Harrison is amazing to watch on screen, and there are even a ton of fun little references to the originals scattered about. I had a blast watching the movie, and almost feel as though it demands a second viewing.
J.J. Abrams, I know you have that whole Star Wars thing going on at the moment, but if you find the time please come back for a third movie.
And now some [HUGE] spoilers:
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"KHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN" ;D
The scene where Kirk 'dies' had me on the verge of tears.
And I found it kind of strange how, after the first set of credits, they dedicated the film to the victims (I think it said victims) of 9/11. Though it does make sense, given some of the content of the film.
EDIT: Oh, after watching this I now want to check out the old Trek films.
I felt this film was lacking the great space battles Wrath of Khan had. The space battle was over very quick, and lacked the dramatic tension.
So, just wondering, anyone else go in not knowing... [HUGE SPOILER]
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Seriously, huge spoilers
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...that John Harrison was Khan? I myself heard rumors months ago, but never paid any attention to them. The big reveal certainly took me by surprise.
And even having never seen a non-Abrams Star Trek film before (or the episode of the series with Khan in it) I still felt completely immersed in the character and picked up on a lot of the references to the original (Spock's "KHAAAAANNNNNNNN" was absolutely amazing in the context of this film. As I mentioned last night Kirk's 'death' nearly had crying. I felt my eyes watering up a bit). Cumberbatch blew me away in the role and I would certainly love to see him again, should the story call for it.
Kirk's and Spock's relationship has also been expanded upon in great ways since the first movie. I absolutely love their friendship and just how far they have come since the 2009 movie. The supporting cast is great, too. Uhura is very cool, Bones is my favorite supporting character to watch, Scotty is hilarious, the recently introduced Carol Marcus, small as her role was, made her presence known, and the rest of the cast all did great as well.
Like I said yesterday, I almost feel as though this movie demands multiple viewings. Definitely going to be purchasing this on Blu Ray when the time comes, and I can not wait to experience it again and again.
My review as seen in the Last Movie You Watched thread:
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Star Trek Into Darkness
Where do I start... how about with a bold statement? One of the best sci-fi space opera adventures ever put to the big screen, really I can only think of a bare few to match it or even roam within the same league-- Wall-E and the first Star Trek Abrams film. Again, Abrams combines impeccable character, jaw dropping science fiction set pieces, intense drama, and awe-inspiring visuals into a tightly wound and brilliantly edited film.
The performances and from all of the leads (and some previously supporting characters really stepping into the foreground) and the chemistry between them is simply infallible, which is to be reiterated if the first film didn't confirm that already-- it's hard to pick a standout because of how well they all play off of each other. This film had me tearing up one moment and then noticing my mouth hanging wide open the next out of pure awe of the beautifully directed action unfolding before me. JJ Abrams is as much of an actor's director as he is a visual one; his swooping and constantly moving shots are stylish without distracting and in a more refined manner than ever before. All together, to call his work 'immerse' would be to damn it with faint praise.
One of my only problems with the first Star Trek film was its underdeveloped villain who never had much to do and had motivations that were revealed just late enough not to make much of an impact... that is anything but the issue here in Into Darkness as Cumberbatch's John Harrison is anything but unimactful. From his steely blue eyes and piercing stare to his flawless posture and precise movement, his very presence is the definition of tension. His villainy could be so clearly felt that it put a smile on my face. But a simple villain John Harrison is not, as his motivations are revealed as much more complex than what we are initially lead to believe.
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Luckily, before I saw the movie I had briefed myself on the character of Khan and his place within the universe, and starting to see the pieces fall into place was like watching a window slowly cracking under pressure, and when Cumberbatch delivers THE line-- it shatters and even though the movie allowed you to see it coming, it blows you away in the process. The air was literally sucked out of the room and into space. The audience took a moment and then made their amusement audible; I was among them.
This came right back to everybody during the warp drive re-alignment scene-- knowing who was on which side of the glass and actually seeing it happen was incredible and hit even harder when the scene came. It seemed they were setting Spock up to accept death when it came to him, but really what it was working him toward was the death of another: a friend. Something must be said for Pine and Quinto's work in this scene, as it was played in a way that breaks beyond simply paying homage to the original universe's iteration of it, but truly makes it revelatory for each character's development-- particularly that of Spock's. When Quinto finally let out -THE- line of swelling rage and unshackled emotion, it was simply perfect. Attributing that line to Spock's prior choice to repress emotion was to the point where he no longer could, and I'm going to use the word again, nothing short of brilliant.
This is where I end the review because every time I think I can find the right place to end it, a new noteworthy detail of the seemingly endless levels of enjoyment I got out of watching the film crops up. It's a delight to have mere moments amongst incredible action scenes that I was so taken aback by that I want to mention them in a review, something meant to encapsulate my impressions of the film's essence. Easily my favorite film I've seen this year, and possibly one that can hold its place right up to the end. If you liked or loved the first Star Trek movie, this film will likely have you as blown away as it had me. If JJ doesn't come back to wrap the films up as a trilogy, I very well may cry. I can't imagine any other modern director taking the reigns of this universe; he owns it with pride and through wondrous execution.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 17, 2013, 10:43:12 AM
So, just wondering, anyone else go in not knowing... [HUGE SPOILER]
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Seriously, huge spoilers
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...that John Harrison was Khan? I myself heard rumors months ago, but never paid any attention to them. The big reveal certainly took me by surprise.
And even having never seen a non-Abrams Star Trek film before (or the episode of the series with Khan in it) I still felt completely immersed in the character and picked up on a lot of the references to the original (Spock's "KHAAAAANNNNNNNN" was absolutely amazing in the context of this film. As I mentioned last night Kirk's 'death' nearly had crying. I felt my eyes watering up a bit). Cumberbatch blew me away in the role and I would certainly love to see him again, should the story call for it.
Kirk's and Spock's relationship has also been expanded upon in great ways since the first movie. I absolutely love their friendship and just how far they have come since the 2009 movie. The supporting cast is great, too. Uhura is very cool, Bones is my favorite supporting character to watch, Scotty is hilarious, the recently introduced Carol Marcus, small as her role was, made her presence known, and the rest of the cast all did great as well.
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I'd heard some rumors going back to the ideas that had been thrown around for the script in general, but I never had it spoiled for me straight up. The fact that I knew the possibility was present just made the easing into it all that much better.
Just seen it.... I dunno what some people are seeing in this movie, I just couldn't get into it at all. I'm not a big Abrams fan yet I really enjoyed his first outing, but this was just confusing, over the top and just down-right stupid in some places, I can't even be bothered to review it!
...oh yeah, I forgot to add, the fake lens flare thing that bothered so many people about the original is even MORE apparent in this movie... what is it about that!!
'Fake' lens flares? They are quite real, my friend:
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Anyways, they weren't even as obvious in this one as they were in the first. Not that I care either way; they are a trademark of Abrams' style and I am perfectly fine with them.
The only thing that I would say was a bit confusing (not really the word I want to use, but whatever) was
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them specifically needing Khan's blood to revive Kirk. They had 72 pods of super-people right there.
Though its easy to explain. It can just be interpreted that Khan's blood had already been synthesized and tested on the Tribble and that it would have taken too much time to replicate the process with the blood of the person that they had thawed out.
I posted this yesterday in the Talk thread. Probably would have been more appropriate putting it here. Yesterday Star Trek Into Darkness was sent up to the space station. There was a live interview conducted afterwards. Me and some friends watched it yesterday. Pretty fun stuff.
https://plus.google.com/events/cla0klc2vnmgibs8ij01at37o9o#events/cla0klc2vnmgibs8ij01at37o9o
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 17, 2013, 01:18:40 PM
'Fake' lens flares? They are quite real, my friend:
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Anyways, they weren't even as obvious in this one as they were in the first. Not that I care either way; they are a trademark of Abrams' style and I am perfectly fine with them.
The only thing that I would say was a bit confusing (not really the word I want to use, but whatever) was Spoiler
them specifically needing Khan's blood to revive Kirk. They had 72 pods of super-people right there.
Though its easy to explain. It can just be interpreted that Khan's blood had already been synthesized and tested on the Tribble and that it would have taken too much time to replicate the process with the blood of the person that they had thawed out.
Yeah, they were considerably toned down in Into Darkness.
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As for the blood, it seemed to me that it was more about keeping all of the potentially dangerous genetically enhanced crew in cryo if at all possible. Khan, already awakened, presented no extra risk beyond his capture. Kirk was already dead so in the moment it was less a matter of time and more a matter of preventing a new potential threat.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 17, 2013, 01:31:06 PM
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As for the blood, it seemed to me that it was more about keeping all of the potentially dangerous genetically enhanced crew in cryo if at all possible. Khan, already awakened, presented no extra risk beyond his capture. Kirk was already dead so in the moment it was less a matter of time and more a matter of preventing a new potential threat.
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They did take one other person out, though, so that they could put Kirk in the pod to sustain him. I think it was Bones who made a comment about keeping the recently thawed out person in a coma so they don't wake up.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 17, 2013, 01:18:40 PM
'Fake' lens flares? They are quite real, my friend:
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Anyways, they weren't even as obvious in this one as they were in the first. Not that I care either way; they are a trademark of Abrams' style and I am perfectly fine with them.
Hmm ok the lens flares were real, fair enough, I still thought it was excessive compared to the first film, but then I've only just seen this one so... :-\
If you haven't seen the first how can you compare them? :D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 17, 2013, 01:38:12 PM
If you haven't seen the first how can you compare them? :D
Eh??? What do you mean? I never said I hadn't seen the first film, in fact I clearly indicated I had seen it. I was saying it was the first time I'd seen the new one so I can't really compare them too much... just didn't enjoy Into Darkness first time like I did the original Abrams film!
Ahhh, sorry. When you said:
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[...]but then I've only just seen this one so... :-\
I though you meant that this was the only one you've seen. My mistake.
^^peace bro^^
You think there is peace... It is an illusion.
Yay, I am going to go see this tomorrow :)
Seeing this in 1.5 hours, yay!!!
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Did anyone else notice Tim Russ who played Tuvok on ST: Voyager? He was on the Vengeance.
No, I did not. If I see it a second time, I'll watch for it.
So this film was f**kING AMAZING. 10/10, easily. I think it might actually be better than Wrath of Khan. Speaking of which...
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I knew it. My suspicions about who John Harrison really was were correct all along. It was too obvious from the get-go.
Gotta wait til Sunday and...it....tasks me!!
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Quote from: Remonster on May 13, 2013, 02:12:29 AM
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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It matters because they even have Spock The Elder reiterate his full name, with all its obvious connotations.
But skin tone is almost trivial. What really matters is that his personality is completely different. His voice, his mannerisms, his body language - even his way of thinking. The poetic, playful cunning, which always made the character so compelling to watch, is gone.
Doesn't necessarily mean that this character is worse (although, I'd argue that this version won't be as memorable as the original), but it does make him unquestionably different. It's an entertaining film, but it definitely left me with the impression that it was pointless making him out to be the same character when they went to such lengths (whether intentionally or accidentally) to make them nothing alike.
Given that this film series is supposed to be a reboot of the series, changes are inevitable. It's a new take on the character and I liked it personally.
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No, I did not. If I see it a second time, I'll watch for it.
So this film was f**kING AMAZING. 10/10, easily. I think it might actually be better than Wrath of Khan. Spoiler
Speaking of which...
I knew it. My suspicions about who John Harrison really was were correct all along. It was too obvious from the get-go.
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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It matters because they even have Spock The Elder reiterate his full name, with all its obvious connotations.
But skin tone is almost trivial. What really matters is that his personality is completely different. His voice, his mannerisms, his body language - even his way of thinking. The poetic, playful cunning, which always made the character so compelling to watch, is gone.
Doesn't necessarily mean that this character is worse (although, I'd argue that this version won't be as memorable as the original), but it does make him unquestionably different. It's an entertaining film, but it definitely left me with the impression that it was pointless making him out to be the same character when they went to such lengths (whether intentionally or accidentally) to make them nothing alike.
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Given that this film series is supposed to be a reboot of the series, changes are inevitable. It's a new take on the character and I liked it personally.
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No, I did not. If I see it a second time, I'll watch for it.
So this film was f**kING AMAZING. 10/10, easily. I think it might actually be better than Wrath of Khan. Spoiler
Speaking of which...
I knew it. My suspicions about who John Harrison really was were correct all along. It was too obvious from the get-go.
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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It matters because they even have Spock The Elder reiterate his full name, with all its obvious connotations.
But skin tone is almost trivial. What really matters is that his personality is completely different. His voice, his mannerisms, his body language - even his way of thinking. The poetic, playful cunning, which always made the character so compelling to watch, is gone.
Doesn't necessarily mean that this character is worse (although, I'd argue that this version won't be as memorable as the original), but it does make him unquestionably different. It's an entertaining film, but it definitely left me with the impression that it was pointless making him out to be the same character when they went to such lengths (whether intentionally or accidentally) to make them nothing alike.
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Given that this film series is supposed to be a reboot of the series, changes are inevitable. It's a new take on the character and I liked it personally.
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Quote from: DoomRulz on May 18, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
Given that this film series is supposed to be a reboot of the series, changes are inevitable. It's a new take on the character and I liked it personally.
Agreed.
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I haven't seen Wrath of Khan yet (though I would love to check out the old films soon), but any differences in personality can be chalked up to the different circumstances in this alternate universe that lead to Khan's interactions with the Federation.
Dude, go watch it. But make sure you watch the TOS episode "Space Seed" first to understand the sequel properly.
This doesn't arrive here in Israel until mid-June. Ugh.
This is looking to make slightly less money than the 2009 film :P
So a few critics are suggesting that
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They should have been more open about Khan being in the film and integrated him in the ad campaign. It certainly would have built a lot of hype.
But that's their big surprised in the film. It would have ruined it.
But the Khan thing leaked out over a full year ago. It's not exactly a big secret.
A lot of people are saying it was a poorly hidden surprise :P And that the film would have worked better if they had played their cards from the beggining :P
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What if Nolan had a character that looked nothing like the Joker in the Dark Knight and had named him "Jim"... only to create a mistery for the audience? lol Then halfway through the film HAHA It was joker all along... yawn :/
btw
https://twitter.com/DavidBHayter/status/335549516117843969
Quote from: Cvalda on May 18, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
But the Khan thing leaked out over a full year ago. It's not exactly a big secret.
I didn't catch on to it.
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I didn't have a problem with the reveal but I was hoping for more of a battle between the Enterprise and Vengeance.
Also, I think they should have kept the interaction between "Harrison" and the guy at the beginning to "I can help your daughter" instead of showing him drawing blood and the whole transfusion scene, kind of takes away a bit of the "Kirk" scene because you know he wasn't going to stay dead long. Would have worked better if the scene with the furry ball creature thing Bones put the blood into was the first time we knew what his blood did.
Funny but either I forgot he was going to be back or it was never mentioned but I was surprised when Nimoy showed up again.
The big reveal was only big for the audience. It would have carried more weight if the characters in the film had a notion of who he was before hand.
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When Cumberbatch said "...I am ... Kahn." I was half expecting Kirk to say " ... oookay." Such was the expression on his face.
That's "Cumberbatch". As for the battle scene, it wouldn't have been much of a battle considering the Vegeance would have torn the Enterprise apart in seconds.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 18, 2013, 07:11:54 PM
That's "Cumberbatch".
Fixed. :laugh:
Either way, Smaug is going to rule.
By the way what did you guys think of Robocop's scenes?
Quote from: ace3g on May 18, 2013, 07:35:04 PM
By the way what did you guys think of Robocop's scenes?
Effective. He adequately portrayed a sense of authority.
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Up until Khan popped his head like a grape.
I thought the character would have been marvelously played by Micheal Ironside or Ed Harris. But Weller got the job done.
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Quote from: ace3g on May 18, 2013, 07:35:04 PM
By the way what did you guys think of Robocop's scenes?
Effective. He adequately portrayed a sense of authority.
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Up until Khan popped his head like a grape.
I thought the character would have been marvelously played by Micheal Ironside or Ed Harris. But Weller got the job done.
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Yeah he was probably thinking "Damn and people thought what I went through in Robocop was painful" lol, no chance of being revived from that
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no chance of being revived from that
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It's okay. I know where there are 72 73 cryotubes full of super healing Wolverine blood that can cure any ailment. Including death by head squish.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 18, 2013, 05:11:57 PM
Dude, go watch it. But make sure you watch the TOS episode "Space Seed" first to understand the sequel properly.
I plan to watch all of the films, hopefully this summer :)
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Quote from: DoomRulz on May 18, 2013, 05:11:57 PM
Dude, go watch it. But make sure you watch the TOS episode "Space Seed" first to understand the sequel properly.
I plan to watch all of the films, hopefully this summer :)
Space Seed is not a film.
This is just stupid, wishful thinking on my part, but it would be awesome if, at the end of the third film, they flash forward X years and an older Kirk and Spock (played by Shatner and Nimoy) are on the Enterprise bridge looking out while Shatner delivers the "Space...the final frontier" monologue.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 18, 2013, 10:15:44 PM
This is just stupid, wishful thinking on my part, but it would be awesome if, at the end of the third film, they flash forward X years and an older Kirk and Spock (played by Shatner and Nimoy) are on the Enterprise bridge looking out while Shatner delivers the "Space...the final frontier" monologue.
I don't find it stupid, I find it cool :)
Saw this today. Short version: f**king loved it. It's one of the best movies in the series, easily. I knew one of the major plot points going in, but still managed to surprise me quite a bit. I'll post my video review later and go into more detail there. A few points now, though:
1) Star Fleet has both Judge Dredd and RoboCop in its ranks. Awesome. :)
2) I was a little bummed when
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Khan turned out to be a bad guy after all. I knew it was pretty much inevitable, but I was so psyched to see him and Kirk team up to kick Admiral RoboCop's ass.
3) I didn't expect
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Nimoy's cameo, at all. That was a nice little surprise.
4) The next movie needs more Karl Urban in it. His screen time was a little lacking here, IMO.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 18, 2013, 11:03:37 PM
4) The next movie needs more Karl Urban in it. His screen time was a little lacking here, IMO.
I'm not sure I would say he was lacking (not as much as Anton Yelchin was, at least) but I would certainly love to see more of him next time. His interactions with the cast, especially Kirk and Spock, were excellent; I'd definitely go as far as to call Bones my favorite supporting character.
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4) The next movie needs more Karl Urban in it. His screen time was a little lacking here, IMO.
I'm not sure I would say he was lacking (not as much as Anton Yelchin was, at least) but I would certainly love to see more of him next time. His interactions with the cast, especially Kirk and Spock, were excellent; I'd definitely go as far as to call Bones my favorite supporting character.
Just a
little lacking. I mean, he is the law, after all. ;)
Easily my favorite movie of 2013 so far. I think I love it just as much as I did with the first movie, if not even better. Seeing it in IMAX was epic. I think this movie is the first great movie of the summer while Iron Man 3 was good, but it could have been much better in my opinion.
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I dunno, the homages and flip around's sound cool but it also feels like clever rehashing of old plot ideas. This is an alternative universe for Trek so lets see some new ideas hmm? maybe some fresh material instead of the same material just flipped around. Does that sound too picky?
I just feel they could be doing more interesting things seeing as they are starting anew. If the following films are just gonna be clever rehashes what the point?.
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Quote from: Hubbs on May 19, 2013, 02:52:12 AM
I dunno, the homages and flip around's sound cool but it also feels like clever rehashing of old plot ideas.
Honestly, calling the film a "clever rehash" is doing it a great disservice. The film is mostly new, with a handful of scenes that are reworked versions of scenes from previous films.
And as someone who has only ever seen a few odd episodes of the show and the 2009 film before this, I can easily say that whatever scenes were 'lifted' from the originals were done so in an extremely masterful way. Nothing felt like it was there just for the sake of being there; it all felt like a very natural progression of this movie's story.
Not to mention constants and variables are essential to any story featuring inter-dimensional traversals.
Quote from: Remonster on May 13, 2013, 02:12:29 AM
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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But yet no one bitch about Bane being played by a white guy ::)
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Quote from: Remonster on May 13, 2013, 02:12:29 AM
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It doesn't really matter though. I fail to see why people are making a huge deal over a white guy playing Kahn. How is it any different than a Spaniard playing him.
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But yet no one bitch about Bane being played by a white guy ::)
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And no one bitches about the fact that Montalban is about as Indian as I am. Apparently it's perfectly okay to use color blind casting, as long as the end result isn't white. ::)
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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Not to mention constants and variables are essential to any story featuring inter-dimensional traversals.
Hello, Elizabeth. ;)
Personally I think they should of at least tanned Cumberbatch up a tad, just a hint, or at least a wig, something.
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Personally I think they should of at least tanned Cumberbatch up a tad, just a hint, or at least a wig, something.
And if they did that, there would have been even more criticism. Because apparently dressing up like another race is horribly insensitive. ::)
Eh what about Cloud Atlas?? anyway he didn't have to be totally altered, just hinted at.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 18, 2013, 10:15:44 PM
This is just stupid, wishful thinking on my part, but it would be awesome if, at the end of the third film, they flash forward X years and an older Kirk and Spock (played by Shatner and Nimoy) are on the Enterprise bridge looking out while Shatner delivers the "Space...the final frontier" monologue.
Sounds cheesy. It's unnecessary fan service.
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Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 19, 2013, 03:34:21 AM
Not to mention constants and variables are essential to any story featuring inter-dimensional traversals.
Hello, Elizabeth. ;)
;D
Saw this last night, absolutely loved it :). One thing though,
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not sure about Kahn. He just didn't have RM's smooth style.
Saw it last night and really enjoyed it.
You know? Storing his friends' bodies inside torpedos?? It's like... The most stupid plan ever =/
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 18, 2013, 05:41:12 PM
This is looking to make slightly less money than the 2009 film :P
I guess some people were iffy about seeing another movie.
Loved this movie.
Larger review here:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9937.msg1691080#msg1691080 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9937.msg1691080#msg1691080)
A thought has occurred to me. Anyone else think it'd be interesting to see the Borg in the reboot series? They existed before the time split, so they're still out there, somewhere, waiting.
Loved this film. Hope it at least breaks even $'s with the 2009 film.
Would like to see the Borg done as well...only if they can spend equal time resisting them as understanding them as an alien culture. I'd also prefer the Borg to be a decentrilized colony...meaning, no queen or leader this time around. An all out war between the fed and the klingons would make another good setup for a future film.
Quote from: orchidal on May 19, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Loved this film. Hope it at least breaks even $'s with the 2009 film.
Would like to see the Borg done as well...only if they can spend equal time resisting them as understanding them as an alien culture. I'd also prefer the Borg to be a decentrilized colony...meaning, no queen or leader this time around. An all out war between the fed and the klingons would make another good setup for a future film.
You know when Scotty went on that mission for Kirk, as he got closer to the thing in space at the coordinates I was like "is that a Borg cube"
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Am I the only one who thought that Robocop loaded the Enterprise up with Genesis torpedoes at first?
Best Star Trek movie ever.
Quote from: Aspie on May 19, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
Best Star Trek movie ever.
I'm still not sure.
But it's definitely up there.
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Quote from: orchidal on May 19, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Loved this film. Hope it at least breaks even $'s with the 2009 film.
Would like to see the Borg done as well...only if they can spend equal time resisting them as understanding them as an alien culture. I'd also prefer the Borg to be a decentrilized colony...meaning, no queen or leader this time around. An all out war between the fed and the klingons would make another good setup for a future film.
You know when Scotty went on that mission for Kirk, as he got closer to the thing in space at the coordinates I was like "is that a Borg cube"
My father said the same thing when we saw it this morning!!
Since the second film ends with:
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an open-endedness of a five year contact/exploration mission...the third film has potential for the ultimate alien exploration film IMHO. If the Borg were the central antagonist/alien species, there's still many opportunities for side missions on alien planets we haven't seen yet.
And then as I said earlier it'd be nice to see a Klingon-themed conflict for a fourth and likely final film in the series. Then you can move on to a Next Gen reboot.
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So...is Spock going to call up Spock Prime every time they run into something new during their five year mission?
"So, uh, hey, I just had the strangest thing happen to me. Um, did you ever get your brain stolen?"
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 19, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
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So...is Spock going to call up Spock Prime every time they run into something new during their five year mission?
"So, uh, hey, I just had the strangest thing happen to me. Um, did you ever get your brain stolen?"
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I kinda hope that he's not in any additional installments and they just mention that he's died of natural causes by the beginning of the third film; however I think they put him in this one solely for continuity purposes as he served no real purpose other than as a source of vague reference
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Quote from: Local Trouble on May 19, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
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So...is Spock going to call up Spock Prime every time they run into something new during their five year mission?
"So, uh, hey, I just had the strangest thing happen to me. Um, did you ever get your brain stolen?"
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I kinda hope that he's not in any additional installments and they just mention that he's died of natural causes by the beginning of the third film; however I think they put him in this one solely for continuity purposes as he served no real purpose other than as a source of vague reference
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I'll never get tired of hearing this in every movie...
"I took a vow NEVER, EVER to tell you ANYTHING that might affect your destiny. That being said..."
Three days since I've seen this and I'm still feeling excited thinking about it. Seriously considering going again in a week or so.
Quote from: orchidal on May 19, 2013, 11:18:27 PMI kinda hope that he's not in any additional installments and they just mention that he's died of natural causes by the beginning of the third film
And pull a Crystal Skull?
I REALLY loved the movie. It was just great fun. I've seen the other movies but I really want to check out the shows now.
My Star Trek movie ratings:
Star Trek: First Contact
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek (2009)
Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Star Trek Generations
Star Trek: Nemesis
Star Trek: Insurrection
These are my personal favorites. It was hard to pick which I like better. I think Star Trek '09 felt more fresh then Into Darkness, but I loved both movies.
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Cool. Not $80 cool, though.
I like Star Trek I really do, its brilliant sci-fi fun...but I can't help but feel this is all gonna get real old real fast, the current takings are suggesting that.
Thing is, end of the day, we've seen all this before, doesn't matter how you spin it. I think they could get away with one more film and that's it, Star Trek has had its day people, you simply can't regurgitate it up over and over.
Ps. a Next Gen reboot will never work, the original Next Gen was weak at best.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 20, 2013, 03:30:20 AM
I like Star Trek I really do, its brilliant sci-fi fun...but I can't help but feel this is all gonna get real old real fast, the current takings are suggesting that.
Thing is, end of the day, we've seen all this before, doesn't matter how you spin it. I think they could get away with one more film and that's it, Star Trek has had its day people, you simply can't regurgitate it up over and over.
Ps. a Next Gen reboot will never work, the original Next Gen was weak at best.
I take it you're not a Trekkie are you?
I don't want a Next Gen reboot, either. The TNG movies we have are more miss than hit IMO.
Actually yeah, you're right about that. First Contact is the best one with Nemesis barely pulling in second place. The other two were pretty lousy, especially Generations.
Wanting to see this so badly...
I really liked Insurrection.
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I really liked Insurrection.
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Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 20, 2013, 04:20:33 AM
I really liked Insurrection.
No words SpaceMarines. Just...no words :P
Out of the TNG films, it came the closest to recapturing the feeling of camaraderie that the original cast had. For me, at least.
I hated Insurrection so much. It's easily one of the worst Star Trek movies in my opinion.
'Generations' was the worst!!
'Undiscovered Country' is my best :)
At least Generations was not super boring like Insurrection was. Insurrection was boring, the characters where not interesting, the humor was terribly painful and the CG was so cartoonish looking. Even back in 1998, the CG looked awful. I still think the visuals in First Contact hold up well.
Insurrection isn't bad! I like all star trek, but Insurrection had a strong message and held true to the meaning and virtues of what gene Roddenberry envisioned. Like SpaceMarines said, it came closest to recapturing the feeling of camaraderie that the original cast had as well.
It had some weak moments, the effects weren't great.. but it was a good TNG movie. First Contact is still the best though.
Isnurrection was a boring movie about rescuing space amish folk.
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Insurrection had a strong message
Really? I hated the whole anti technology message that they were going for.
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Three days since I've seen this and I'm still feeling excited thinking about it. Seriously considering going again in a week or so.
Me too, trying to find one of my friends who hasn't seen this yet or someone who will see it again with me.
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:laugh:
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Quote— even better. So what wouldn't Khan's blood fix? Decapitation, but most other mortal wounds? Poisons? Phaser blasts, I bet. Certainly most other illnesses and cancers and such. And probably aging, at leats to an extent. So basically Bones has discovered the secret to eternal life, and not only will no one on the Enterprise ever need to die again unless their body is somehow destroyed, but all of the civilization — heck, probably galactic civilization – will be irrevocably changed because of this amazing discovery.
Uh, I don't think so. I think they just save Kirk and then forget about it.
Of course they do.
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I'd assume for the same reason it was locked up and forgotten about in the first place.
Quote from: BANE on May 20, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
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I'd assume for the same reason it was locked up and forgotten about in the first place.
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Cause in the future we have these
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Quote from: Hubbs on May 20, 2013, 05:14:04 AM
'Generations' was the worst!!
'Undiscovered Country' is my best :)
This guy...he knows what's up.
Insurrection was tolerable for a while. It just didn't feel like a movie but more like a bunch of TNG episodes glued together.
That's actually kinda why I liked it; felt like watching the show, and I always enjoy a good TNG episode.
MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT: Needed more Karl Urban :P
Quote from: Aspie on May 21, 2013, 12:01:22 AM
MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT: Needed more Karl Urban :P
Agreed.
With the old series, the three leads were always Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. With the reboot, it's Kirk, Spock, and Uhura.
I need my Bones, damnit.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 20, 2013, 03:57:52 AM
Actually yeah, you're right about that. First Contact is the best one with Nemesis barely pulling in second place. The other two were pretty lousy, especially Generations.
Nah - can't agree with that. Generations was a very emotionally charged movie for Picard and I really love that.
First Contact and Wrath of Khan are some of my favorite films.
I really enjoyed Into Darkness, but like 2009, I think this'll fall apart the more thought you put into it. That said, I'm excited to go see it again this weekend.
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Quote from: Aspie on May 21, 2013, 12:01:22 AM
MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT: Needed more Karl Urban :P
Agreed.
With the old series, the three leads were always Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. With the reboot, it's Kirk, Spock, and Uhura.
I need my Bones, damnit.
Yeah, Bones has always been one of my favorite characters. His humor is awesome. I was a tad disappointing that we didn't get a lot of him, but whatever. The film was still awesome. :P
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Actually yeah, you're right about that. First Contact is the best one with Nemesis barely pulling in second place. The other two were pretty lousy, especially Generations.
Nah - can't agree with that. Generations was a very emotionally charged movie for Picard and I really love that.
I liked that aspect of it. But the villain was just terrible, and the whole Kirk/Picard mashup was criminally mishandled.
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Quote from: DoomRulz on May 20, 2013, 03:57:52 AM
Actually yeah, you're right about that. First Contact is the best one with Nemesis barely pulling in second place. The other two were pretty lousy, especially Generations.
Nah - can't agree with that. Generations was a very emotionally charged movie for Picard and I really love that.
I liked that aspect of it. But the villain was just terrible, and the whole Kirk/Picard mashup was criminally mishandled.
Not only mishandled, but killing off Kirk made about as much sense as a person walking across a stony field in a pair of sandals, along with the battle scene between the Enterprise and the Bird of Prey being an absolute travesty. A freaking battlecruiser of a vessel is destroyed by the F-16 of space ships? Pfft. Not to mention there was more emotion in Data finding Spot than there was in Kirk's burial scene.
Spoiler
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/jj-abrams-went-to-really-insane-lengths-to-keep-the-star-trek-2-villain-secret-20130520
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2013, 12:27:16 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 21, 2013, 12:11:11 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 21, 2013, 12:09:54 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 20, 2013, 03:57:52 AM
Actually yeah, you're right about that. First Contact is the best one with Nemesis barely pulling in second place. The other two were pretty lousy, especially Generations.
Nah - can't agree with that. Generations was a very emotionally charged movie for Picard and I really love that.
I liked that aspect of it. But the villain was just terrible, and the whole Kirk/Picard mashup was criminally mishandled.
Not only mishandled, but killing off Kirk made about as much sense as a person walking across a stony field in a pair of sandals, along with the battle scene between the Enterprise and the Bird of Prey being an absolute travesty. A freaking battlecruiser of a vessel is destroyed by the F-16 of space ships? Pfft. Not to mention there was more emotion in Data finding Spot than there was in Kirk's burial scene.
I had no issue with killing Kirk. It was
how he died that miffed me.
lol
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Quote from: ace3g on May 21, 2013, 12:42:02 AM
Spoiler
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/jj-abrams-went-to-really-insane-lengths-to-keep-the-star-trek-2-villain-secret-20130520
Abrams be crazy but hey, it worked.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 21, 2013, 12:56:07 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2013, 12:27:16 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 21, 2013, 12:11:11 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 21, 2013, 12:09:54 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 20, 2013, 03:57:52 AM
Actually yeah, you're right about that. First Contact is the best one with Nemesis barely pulling in second place. The other two were pretty lousy, especially Generations.
Nah - can't agree with that. Generations was a very emotionally charged movie for Picard and I really love that.
I liked that aspect of it. But the villain was just terrible, and the whole Kirk/Picard mashup was criminally mishandled.
Not only mishandled, but killing off Kirk made about as much sense as a person walking across a stony field in a pair of sandals, along with the battle scene between the Enterprise and the Bird of Prey being an absolute travesty. A freaking battlecruiser of a vessel is destroyed by the F-16 of space ships? Pfft. Not to mention there was more emotion in Data finding Spot than there was in Kirk's burial scene.
I had no issue with killing Kirk. It was how he died that miffed me.
What would you have preferred?
Something that just packed more of a punch. Something more Wrath of Khan or even, dare I say, Nemesis-esque. Offing a major character in a meaningful, thematic way.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2013, 12:59:54 AM
Quote from: ace3g on May 21, 2013, 12:42:02 AMI had no issue with killing Kirk. It was how he died that miffed me.
What would you have preferred?
Out with a bang on the bridge of the Enterprise-A. George Kirk style.
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 20, 2013, 08:13:34 PM
http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-508927844 (http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-508927844)
:laugh:
Spoiler
Quote— even better. So what wouldn't Khan's blood fix? Decapitation, but most other mortal wounds? Poisons? Phaser blasts, I bet. Certainly most other illnesses and cancers and such. And probably aging, at leats to an extent. So basically Bones has discovered the secret to eternal life, and not only will no one on the Enterprise ever need to die again unless their body is somehow destroyed, but all of the civilization — heck, probably galactic civilization – will be irrevocably changed because of this amazing discovery.
Uh, I don't think so. I think they just save Kirk and then forget about it.
Of course they do.
Holy shit this pretty much sums up my entire theory on these new Trek films, exactly right on many fronts.
'using Khan just proves that nu-Trek is going to be nothing more than the greatest hits version of Star Trek, and not even the original hits — some new band covering the old hits. It means that Abrams doesn't have any original ideas for Star Trek, and is content to rehash the shit people enjoyed the first time. Of all the classic Trek characters to bring back, of all the classic stories they could have brought to mass audiences for the first time, or even bad stories that they could have improved, they go with the one character everybody already f**king knows because they think all we want to see is the same old shit.'
Hey, anyone has more information about the upcoming Star Trek anime?
Quote from: Hubbs on May 21, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 20, 2013, 08:13:34 PM
http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-508927844 (http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-508927844)
:laugh:
Spoiler
Quote— even better. So what wouldn't Khan's blood fix? Decapitation, but most other mortal wounds? Poisons? Phaser blasts, I bet. Certainly most other illnesses and cancers and such. And probably aging, at leats to an extent. So basically Bones has discovered the secret to eternal life, and not only will no one on the Enterprise ever need to die again unless their body is somehow destroyed, but all of the civilization — heck, probably galactic civilization – will be irrevocably changed because of this amazing discovery.
Uh, I don't think so. I think they just save Kirk and then forget about it.
Of course they do.
Holy shit this pretty much sums up my entire theory on these new Trek films, exactly right on many fronts.
Spoiler
'using Khan just proves that nu-Trek is going to be nothing more than the greatest hits version of Star Trek, and not even the original hits — some new band covering the old hits. It means that Abrams doesn't have any original ideas for Star Trek, and is content to rehash the shit people enjoyed the first time. Of all the classic Trek characters to bring back, of all the classic stories they could have brought to mass audiences for the first time, or even bad stories that they could have improved, they go with the one character everybody already f**king knows because they think all we want to see is the same old shit.'
Use some f**king spoiler tags for those spoilers. The film's only been out for a weekend a lotta places.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 20, 2013, 11:28:37 PM
That's actually kinda why I liked it; felt like watching the show, and I always enjoy a good TNG episode.
The whole movie felt a bad episode to me. Nothing about STI was memorable at all.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 21, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 20, 2013, 08:13:34 PM
http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-508927844 (http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-508927844)
:laugh:
Spoiler
Quote— even better. So what wouldn't Khan's blood fix? Decapitation, but most other mortal wounds? Poisons? Phaser blasts, I bet. Certainly most other illnesses and cancers and such. And probably aging, at leats to an extent. So basically Bones has discovered the secret to eternal life, and not only will no one on the Enterprise ever need to die again unless their body is somehow destroyed, but all of the civilization — heck, probably galactic civilization – will be irrevocably changed because of this amazing discovery.
Uh, I don't think so. I think they just save Kirk and then forget about it.
Of course they do.
Holy shit this pretty much sums up my entire theory on these new Trek films, exactly right on many fronts.
'using Khan just proves that nu-Trek is going to be nothing more than the greatest hits version of Star Trek, and not even the original hits — some new band covering the old hits. It means that Abrams doesn't have any original ideas for Star Trek, and is content to rehash the shit people enjoyed the first time. Of all the classic Trek characters to bring back, of all the classic stories they could have brought to mass audiences for the first time, or even bad stories that they could have improved, they go with the one character everybody already f**king knows because they think all we want to see is the same old shit.'
Except that it's
not true. They only reused
two characters and
one scene. Literally everything else about the movie is new. Hell, even the two reused characters play largely different roles and do entirely different things.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness)
I just facepalmed.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness)
I just facepalmed.
He shouldn't have to apologize for anything. It was awesome.
No kidding he shouldn't have to apologize. I guess feminists are just a tad more touchy than people thought.
At least it wasn't Bibi Besch.
Funny how a shirtless Kirk in both movies (and countless episodes, come to think of it) was never a problem...
That's equality for you.
I guess everyone's cool with Orion chicks in their skivvies?
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 21, 2013, 06:52:21 AM
I guess everyone's cool with Orion chicks in their skivvies?
Definitely a fantasy of mine. :P
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness)
I just facepalmed.
That scene should not have to be apologized for. It was just Kirk taking a peek... he's Kirk... and she's Alice Eve. Oh well, it's not the kind of movie you want controvertial PR surrounding, so I guess a transparent apology is better than letting angry hyper-sensitive soccer moms and their 'convinced' boyfriends/second husbands fester and make a stir. For god's sake, if it has something to do with a highly intelligent female character being seen in their underwear, they should try watching the first Abrams movie (http://www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/zoe-saldana-uhura-thumbnail.jpg).
Objectify
my ass.
I'm definitely getting a sarcastic vibe from that apology. Lindleof is a smart guy, he knows as well as everyone else that these people are just looking for something to complain about. He said what he had to say to shut them up, whether he means it or not.
Anyways, sarcastic or not, Sweeps said it best.
At first, like the 09 film, I thought this would be 'ok'. Great sci-fi, a good film, but nothing that really cements in my memory.
I read a few, short reviews and became more ambivalent to it, and then came on here for some of the full-length ones by our members. After being baited long enough by such positivity about it, I went to see it this morning.
Holy crap am I glad I did.
This is my favourite iteration of Star Trek - others may disagree: 'older series was better', 'Wrath of Khan rocked!', etc. I won't go into a huge review, others have already done a longer, better job such as Sweeps.
But I also have to agree with something else I read, that is Cumberbatch stole the film from the other actors.
Mother of god he did. In his role, with the excellent writing and acting Cumberbatch redefined what it meant to be a villain. Should we even use that term anymore? Or even 'antagonist'? Because those terms bring to mind a lazy, moustache-twidling black hat. A Disney villain. A bad real-world dictator anology or rip-off. Cumberbatch's character was a character, and just that, a character we could feel sympathy for, root for, enjoy his bone-crunching combat, lose ourselves in his story and cry alongside with him over his plight. He is simply the best 'villain'(?) I think I've ever seen.
Similarly his interactions with other characters really upped the emotional scale of the film fantastically, and brought it into the status of an instant classic of its genre.
Mfw reading all of these wonderful positive reviews from members on here:
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I gotta see this thing again.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 21, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
Mfw reading all of these wonderful positive reviews from members on here:
http://www.rpgmmag.com/misc/images/herman_cain_smile.gif
It makes up for the IM3 shitstorm.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 21, 2013, 08:55:21 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 21, 2013, 06:52:21 AM
I guess everyone's cool with Orion chicks in their skivvies?
Definitely a fantasy of mine. :P
Especially when played by Rachel Nichols. 8)
Too bad she most likely died in Nero's attack. :'(
Must have been some survivors, otherwise Starfleet would have been seriously short on students.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 21, 2013, 11:27:46 AM
I'm definitely getting a sarcastic vibe from that apology. Lindleof is a smart guy, he knows as well as everyone else that these people are just looking for something to complain about. He said what he had to say to shut them up, whether he means it or not.
Anyways, sarcastic or not, Sweeps said it best.
I felt the same but the mere fact that he had to do it is ridiculous. You think by now people would loosen up dem sphincters.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness)
I just facepalmed.
I think that this scene is some straight up Roberto Orci/ Alex Kurtzman stuff, aka creator of the racist Transformers, and they should be the ones talking.
If anyone birthed the Twins, it was Bay.
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 22, 2013, 03:03:58 AM
If anyone birthed the Twins, it was Bay.
I thought that was Ehren Kruger.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on May 22, 2013, 02:28:53 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/damon-lindelof-apologizes-for-carol-marcus-underwear-scene-in-star-trek-into-darkness)
I just facepalmed.
I think that this scene is some straight up Roberto Orci/ Alex Kurtzman stuff, aka creator of the racist Transformers, and they should be the ones talking.
Go home Daddy, your drunk.
Gonna jump on the bandwagon here and say I loved this movie and I'm buying it when it comes out c:
The villain was awesome!
http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-showering-cumberbatch (http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-showering-cumberbatch)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXKjjS-eZI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXKjjS-eZI#ws)
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 22, 2013, 03:03:58 AM
If anyone birthed the Twins, it was Bay.
Bay has no writing credits in this movie.... how would he get them into the movie as part of the story without any writing?
Quote from: DaddyYautja on May 23, 2013, 03:48:20 AMBay has no writing credits in this movie.... how would he get them into the movie as part of the story without any writing?
Um he's the director. Everything is guided by his vision (or lack thereof) - including the story. If he doesn't like something, it's out. But apparently he REALLY liked the Twins and made them much worse than they were on the page.
Bay has a tendency to do a lot of improv with his actors :P
The writers of Revenge of the Fallen were reportedly very "surprised" when they saw what the twins were doing and saying in the film. :P
Even Spielberg once jokingly said that "It would be nice if you (Bay) actually shot exactly what's in the script for once"
They also only had an outline of a script due to the writers' strike.
They finished the script in 3 months with Ehren Kruger :P
It ended up being terribad of course. lol
Then they quit the Transformers movies altogether to do other work (Star Trek) but they still found time to write the first episodes of Transformers Prime (wich were pretty damn good fun.. unlike the movies) :P
The difference in the treatment of characters in the show versus the films is staggering.... :P Arcee specially... throwaway character in the film (Because Bay hated her and wanted her killed) ...central character in the TV show :P
Imdb has a personal quote from Bay (not sure how authentic)
QuoteI write my own action. There's a scene in The Island (2005) - a highway chase where a pile of train wheels fall off a truck and smashes into the oncoming cars. That thought came to me as I was driving next to a truck carrying rail wheels. My mind is very fertile, so I'm like, 'That's very dangerous!' I sent someone out to do research and found out those train wheels weigh a TON each . . .
So yeah, seems he adds in his own shit
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 23, 2013, 07:04:26 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on May 23, 2013, 03:48:20 AMBay has no writing credits in this movie.... how would he get them into the movie as part of the story without any writing?
Um he's the director. Everything is guided by his vision (or lack thereof) - including the story. If he doesn't like something, it's out. But apparently he REALLY liked the Twins and made them much worse than they were on the page.
None of this states that he is the originator just a contributor.
Quote from: Blacklabel on May 23, 2013, 07:13:03 AM
Bay has a tendency to do a lot of improv with his actors :P
The writers of Revenge of the Fallen were reportedly very "surprised" when they saw what the twins were doing and saying in the film. :P
Even Spielberg once jokingly said that "It would be nice if you (Bay) actually shot exactly what's in the script for once"
Links?
Quote from: SuperM on May 23, 2013, 10:56:32 AM
Imdb has a personal quote from Bay (not sure how authentic)
QuoteI write my own action. There's a scene in The Island (2005) - a highway chase where a pile of train wheels fall off a truck and smashes into the oncoming cars. That thought came to me as I was driving next to a truck carrying rail wheels. My mind is very fertile, so I'm like, 'That's very dangerous!' I sent someone out to do research and found out those train wheels weigh a TON each . . .
So yeah, seems he adds in his own shit
Pretty sure actually scenes need detailed information on what is going to happen when cars are going to hit each other, things are going to blow up, people are going to jump from high places. This stuff isnt randomly thought up at the last second....
Actions scenes are different than story developments.... if you didnt know.
What in the living f**k does any of this have to do with Star Trek? :laugh:
Quote from: ace3g on May 23, 2013, 01:44:14 AM
http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-showering-cumberbatch (http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-showering-cumberbatch)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXKjjS-eZI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXKjjS-eZI#ws)
Second music selection please :D
Cumberbatch has really altered my original view of Kahn in the new film. At first it was more from a purist perspective in comparing him to Montalban but the more I reflect on Cumberbatch the more I respect him for the part. He did a bang up job for sure.
Indeed.
Spoiler
Loved the scene when Spock contacted Old Spock to ask about Khan as well.
Jesus f**king Christ, can we PLEASE stop talking about Michael Bay?
ATTACK THE BLOCK Director Joe Cornish In The Running To Helm STAR TREK 3?
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80169#9IeoQRA7CoiPc3U2.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80169#9IeoQRA7CoiPc3U2.99)
Uhhhhh...Abrams? :-\
I hated Attack The Block so much. Not my first choice. But yeah, more Trek please.
I'll be sure to include this in the first paragraph of my suicide note. :)
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 24, 2013, 01:40:13 AM
ATTACK THE BLOCK Director Joe Cornish In The Running To Helm STAR TREK 3?
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80169#9IeoQRA7CoiPc3U2.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80169#9IeoQRA7CoiPc3U2.99)
Uhhhhh...Abrams? :-\
Cool. Attack the Block was great. Abrams will probably be to involved with Star Wars anyways.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Would be nice.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Maybe the studio are?
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Maybe the studio are?
Seeing as there was a four year break previously, I can't see them eager enough to jump the gun and lose the director that made them such a hit in the first place.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 02:15:27 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Maybe the studio are?
Seeing as there was a four year break previously, I can't see them eager enough to jump the gun and lose the director that made them such a hit in the first place.
QuoteWhile he's apparently just one of many names being considered at this early stage, Attack the Block director and Ant-Man writer Joe Cornish is the first director to be linked to the third instalment in the Star Trek franchise which J.J. Abrams will be unable to helm due to his Star Wars commitments.
Either way, it looks like we're losing Abrams. :-\
I doubt Abrams is going to be doing more than one Star Wars movie, to be completely honest. I'd love for his to do one last Star Trek film after Star Wars Episode VII.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 24, 2013, 02:23:16 AM
I doubt Abrams is going to be doing more than one Star Wars movie, to be completely honest. I'd love for his to do one last Star Trek film after Star Wars Episode VII.
Really? I thought the consensus was that he was going to the new trilogy entirely.
Never confirmed one way or the other. That's just how I see it going. And I'd be perfectly fine with it being approached that way. Lucas' original intentions were to direct the first and last film while other directors did all of the movies in between (this was before he came up with the six part story, however).
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 02:15:27 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Maybe the studio are?
Seeing as there was a four year break previously, I can't see them eager enough to jump the gun and lose the director that made them such a hit in the first place.
Star Trek survived 40 years before Abrams showed up.
And similarly, Favreau stepped aside after 2 successful Iron Man films and Black's third has turned over $1b+ and it was oonly released three weeks ago.
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:40:06 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 02:15:27 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Maybe the studio are?
Seeing as there was a four year break previously, I can't see them eager enough to jump the gun and lose the director that made them such a hit in the first place.
Star Trek survived 40 years before Abrams showed up.
And similarly, Favreau stepped aside after 2 successful Iron Man films and Black's third has turned over $1b+ and it was oonly released three weeks ago.
I think Black's Iron Man contribution hurts your argument regarding the third film's possible quality.
Irrelevant.
much like yer face.
HAHA HEHE HOHO
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:48:16 AM
Quote from: First Blood on May 24, 2013, 02:45:28 AM
Irrelevant.
Predictably so.
I dunno. Iron Man 3, despite it's financial success, did notably divide audiences. It's something to look at when picking a new director/producer.
7.7 on IMDb and 78% Fresh on RT.
That's not divided.
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:40:06 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 02:15:27 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
QuoteUhhhhh...Abrams?
Won't be at all busy with Star Wars...
Nobody was expecting a sequel within the next 2 years.
Maybe the studio are?
Seeing as there was a four year break previously, I can't see them eager enough to jump the gun and lose the director that made them such a hit in the first place.
Star Trek survived 40 years before Abrams showed up.
Of course, but not this Star Trek. People didn't flock to it based on its name alone. Abrams' style and filmmaking sensibilities are half of the identity of those films and the reason they've such a hit with the general public. It's no doubt Disney wants him for Star Wars, he knows how to put asses in the seats and do it extraordinarily well.
Quote from: SM on May 24, 2013, 04:03:45 AM
7.7 on IMDb and 78% Fresh on RT.
That's not divided.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1706853/iron-man-3-twist-controversial.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1706853/iron-man-3-twist-controversial.jhtml)
I was addressing the fanbase, silly. (You can find a thousand more articles relating to the division).
Star Trek will be catering primarily to the Star Trek fanbase. I'd rather have the proven Abrams back than risk having my fandom torn in half, as I'm sure most people would. However, I do have faith in Joe Cornish to make a Abrams-quality film.
I think Alfonso Cuarón could work for ST3.
When your movie makes over a billion dollars, you've just made the fanbase a LOT bigger. Studio's not going to give a shit about a few whiny fans when your flick's making that sort of bank - same as any other franchise.
And you don't spend $190m on a movie that caters primarily to a particular fanbase...
I'd like to see Nick Meyer do it.
Anything which was a step up from the dire 'Iron Man 2' can't truly be labelled bad.
Regardless, wouldn't this film be the twelfth or thirteenth? Not third.
Not sure how I feel about this director. 'Attack The Block' was a competent film, but the subject matter was a strange choice and made most of the characters unlikable for me - and the creature designs were awful. Don't know how much of either of those decisions had to do with the budget, though.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 24, 2013, 06:04:43 AM
Regardless, wouldn't this film be the twelfth or thirteenth? Not third.
If you wanna be like that.
Though it's pointless, considering its a different timeline and different universe.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 24, 2013, 06:04:43 AM
Anything which was a step up from the dire 'Iron Man 2' can't truly be labelled bad.
Regardless, wouldn't this film be the twelfth or thirteenth? Not third.
Not sure how I feel about this director. 'Attack The Block' was a competent film, but the subject matter was a strange choice and made most of the characters unlikable for me - and the creature designs were awful. Don't know how much of either of those decisions had to do with the budget, though.
Dude I loved those gorilla things with the neon blue jaws hehe but I agree on the unlikeable characters oh yes. Flippin hoodie yobs as heroes? errr no.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 24, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
Dude I loved those gorilla things with the neon blue jaws hehe but I agree on the unlikeable characters oh yes. Flippin hoodie yobs as heroes? errr no.
I feel like if I tried to read your posts aloud I would pass out.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 24, 2013, 06:09:01 AM
If you wanna be like that.
Though it's pointless, considering its a different timeline and different universe.
We title the '
Back To The Future' films by their consecutive order, don't we? :)
Smartazz. ;)
I know if it will never happen but I wonder if Christopher Nolan can handle a Star Trek movie?
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on May 24, 2013, 05:24:21 PM
I know if it will never happen but I wonder if Christopher Nolan can handle a Star Trek movie?
I'm sure he could...but nah.
Of course he could, and he'd probably do a great job, but I'd prefer him to focus on original projects. Heh, listen to me... 'I'd prefer'.
Let Nolan tackle the next Bond.
I'd rather see Nolan do a bit more original work at the moment. Interstellar sounds amazing.
If it were up to me I'd choose Abrams for Star Trek 3. Heh...
Brad Bird would be a great choice.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on May 25, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
Brad Bird would be a great choice.
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He would definitely be a great choice.
I'd love it if Abrams came back for a third one; let him round out the trilogy.
Team Cornish
What about Joseph Kosinski?
That would be a very good choice actually.
Nope. Joe Cornish is the best, behind Abrams of course.
Nope.
Yep. Attack the Block ftw sucka.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 25, 2013, 03:39:56 PM
What about Joseph Kosinski?
Similar visual sensibilities, could work. Not sure he'd be as strong an actor director though.
As much as I love Kosinski, I don't really see him being the best fir for Star Trek.
If we can't have Abrams, I'm thinking maybe Drew Goddard. He's worked with Abrams before and did an excellent job on The Cabin in the Woods.
Or Joe Cornish.
Hell, I was impressed enough with John Carter to give Andrew Stanton a shot. He'd be better for Star Wars, but still...
Or this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0180428/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0180428/)
Quote from: Aspie on May 26, 2013, 04:54:54 AM
Or this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0180428/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0180428/)
Do I hear an echo?
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 26, 2013, 05:09:49 AM
Quote from: Aspie on May 26, 2013, 04:54:54 AM
Or this guy:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0180428/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0180428/)
Do I hear an echo?
I would think not, since our way of communication is in the form of typing in an internet forum.
Geek question; How do you guys think the Narada would have fared against the USS Vengeance in battle? Both carried very advanced weaponry, the Narada was bigger but the USS Vengeance had stealth. I'm not sure which ship would emerge victorious myself, though I'm leaning towards the USS Vengeance. :-\
Nero's ship was from the future, outfitted with Borg technology and weaponry, right? It could also destroy planets...
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 26, 2013, 08:01:47 AM
Nero's ship was from the future, outfitted with Borg technology and weaponry, right? It could also destroy planets...
It was simply a romulan mining vessel from Nero's time.
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 26, 2013, 08:01:47 AM
Nero's ship was from the future, outfitted with Borg technology and weaponry, right? It could also destroy planets...
Well, only with that unfolding planetary drill installation... which wouldn't do anything in ship-to-ship combat.
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 26, 2013, 08:01:47 AMIt could also destroy planets...
That it could, but I don't think they're going to shoot black holes after the USS
Vengeance. Gotta be careful with that stuff. :laugh:
I think that if
Vengeance could sneak up on Narada, they could land some crippling blows before the Romulans had time to react. Heck, they could just ambush them in warp if they wanted to.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 25, 2013, 03:27:19 AMI'd love it if Abrams came back for a third one; let him round out the trilogy.
I agree. It's not like he's doing all three Star Wars sequels.
Right?
Wait, I was wrong. Gil is right, the Narada was in fact retrofitted with Borg tech.
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 26, 2013, 08:01:47 AM
Nero's ship was from the future, outfitted with Borg technology and weaponry, right? It could also destroy planets...
What Borg technology? The Borg don't come into the picture until the 24th century, i.e. TNG time. The Borg would also have assimilated or destroyed Nero's vessel if he had encountered them.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 26, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: Gilfryd on May 26, 2013, 08:01:47 AM
Nero's ship was from the future, outfitted with Borg technology and weaponry, right? It could also destroy planets...
What Borg technology? The Borg don't come into the picture until the 24th century, i.e. TNG time. The Borg would also have assimilated or destroyed Nero's vessel if he had encountered them.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Narada (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Narada)
''In the Star Trek prequel comic book miniseries Star Trek: Countdown, the Narada's advanced weaponry and appearance are explained as being the result of the ship being retrofitted with salvaged and reverse-engineered Borg technology. The Tal Shiar in the 24th century had been experimenting with Borg technology, and Nero's ship was the experimental vessel used. The Narada was retrofitted at the Vault, a cloaked military installation in deep space, subsequent to the destruction of Romulus. The Borg nanoprobes allowed the ship to grow and repair itself, and also take on a much larger and more menacing appearance. The ship's speed was increased from Warp 9.8 to "...immeasurable transwarp speeds." This information also appeared on the Blu-ray release of the film in the supplement section "Starships."
The Borg connection paid off in the sequel to Countdown, Star Trek: Nero. After Nero escapes from Rura Penthe – the "Klingon prison planet" – the Narada takes him to V'Ger, which Nero uses to calculate where Spock will arrive.
In an issue of the ongoing Star Trek comic set in the alternate reality's mirror universe, Kirk - Spock's first officer - commandeers the Narada from Nero following the Terran Empire's conquest of the Klingon Empire. He attacks and destroys the Enterprise, and sets course for Vulcan.''
''Elsewhere, the Narada crew discovers the existence of a cloaked military facility known as The Vault, using an encrypted code acquired from the murdered Senate. The Vault's existence was known only to the Romulan High Command; its purpose is to provide a safe haven for the ruling council in the event of a threat to the homeworld. Nero gains entrance to The Vault, stating that the Praetor gave Nero his Senate codes and the location of the facility before dying of injuries sustained in the destruction of Romulus. Aboard the facility, Nero meets Commander D'Spal, who explains that The Vault is the rendezvous point for what remains of the Romulan fleet.
Nero asks D'Spal for weapons to help the Narada survive the current crisis. She introduces him to an advanced weapons system of Romulan design which utilizes retrofitted Borg technology. In addition to giving their ships warp, cloaking, and sensor capabilities superior to those of Federation vessels, it also uses self-repairing nanotechnology which can fix any damage and allows it to anticipate potential threats and modify its systems accordingly. As Nero looks on in awe, D'Spal states that the Narada would make a fine prototype for this weapons system.''
''At The Vault, the Narada has been out-fitted with the Borg weapons system. D'Spal reveals that she knows Nero's true intentions – to avenge the destruction of Romulus – and she wants to help him do it. The Narada is capable of bringing their enemies to their knees, and Nero intends on starting with Vulcan.''
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 25, 2013, 09:10:34 PM
As much as I love Kosinski, I don't really see him being the best fir for Star Trek.
If we can't have Abrams, I'm thinking maybe Drew Goddard. He's worked with Abrams before and did an excellent job on The Cabin in the Woods.
I could see him doing very well with the material.
I convinced a friend to go and see this with me again on Thursday. Can't wait. ;D
In my idealistic vision of the near-future, we'll see three more films featuring the current cast. The first two should be set during the course of their five year mission, while the third will see them returning to Earth just in time for...
Spoiler
The Wrath of Cabbagepatch
So since I noticed this thread was renamed 'Star Trek 13', I thought we might as well combine this with all of the other Star Trek threads floating around and just make a general Star Trek thread. Anyone agree?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2013, 02:19:12 PM
So since I noticed this thread was renamed 'Star Trek 13', I thought we might as well combine this with all of the other Star Trek threads floating around and just make a general Star Trek thread. Anyone agree?
I second the motion!
Quote from: TJ Doc on May 28, 2013, 01:00:40 PM
In my idealistic vision of the near-future, we'll see three more films featuring the current cast. The first two should be set during the course of their five year mission, while the third will see them returning to Earth just in time for...
Spoiler
The Wrath of Cabbagepatch
Fit the Borg and a good Klingon villain in there somewhere, we got a deal.
I wouldn't mind watching Vin Diesel play a brutal Klingon warlord, yeah.
But I reckon they'll save the Borg until Next Generation gets its middle-aged Jason Statham-helmed reboot.
But we already have a young Patrick Stewart :D
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... He could work too.
Anyways, I've only ever seen one episode of TNG and I know next to nothing about the characters, but from what I read online the Borg seems very interesting. I think it'd be kind of interesting to throw Kirk and company up against them. Pit them against a threat they never faced in the original timeline.
The name changed to Star Trek 13? Seriously? I don't think anybody is counting the Abrams series as a sequel to the original films.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 28, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
The name changed to Star Trek 13? Seriously? I don't think anybody is counting the Abrams series as a sequel to the original films.
Well, I guess
technically speaking they are. I think that the last we see of Spock in the old stuff he becomes an ambassador to the Romulans, and where Trek '09 picks up he's trying to help the Romulans out when shit hits the fan and he's launched back in time.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 28, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
The name changed to Star Trek 13? Seriously? I don't think anybody is counting the Abrams series as a sequel to the original films.
This.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2013, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 28, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
The name changed to Star Trek 13? Seriously? I don't think anybody is counting the Abrams series as a sequel to the original films.
Well, I guess technically speaking they are. I think that the last we see of Spock in the old stuff he becomes an ambassador to the Romulans, and where Trek '09 picks up he's trying to help the Romulans out when shit hits the fan and he's launched back in time.
That's the one continuous factor though. The movies basically work independently with Spock Prime as a supporting character-- and to a much lesser extent in
Into Darkness.
All Star Trek
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You changed it right? It's your thread. :laugh:
I think a mod merged my Into Darkness thread with Nightmare's Star Trek 3/13 thread. :D
Yup, I reported my suggestion so the mods could merge 'em :P
I watched the original movie. I liked much. Including the landscapes about the ships and so. I don't know why people seem to dislike it.
Quote from: Magegg on May 28, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
I watched the original movie. I liked much. Including the landscapes about the ships and so. I don't know why people seem to dislike it.
Because practically nothing happens for the 2 1/2 hour run time. There's a good 15-20 minutes that nothing but the ship moving painfully slowly through the giant space fart, broken up by a brief scene in the middle. It hasn't been nicknamed the Motionless Picture for nothing.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 28, 2013, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: Magegg on May 28, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
I watched the original movie. I liked much. Including the landscapes about the ships and so. I don't know why people seem to dislike it.
Because practically nothing happens for the 2 1/2 hour run time. There's a good 15-20 minutes that nothing but the ship moving painfully slowly through the giant space fart, broken up by a brief scene in the middle. It hasn't been nicknamed the Motionless Picture for nothing.
It was a delight, for me :)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Review by Peregrin Took
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:D
I still want to see the movie, though. I want to see all the old ones, actually.
TMP is visually and musically beautiful. If you go in only for that, you won't be disappointed.
The thing that's bad is the pacing. First time I saw the movie, I hated it. Gave it a second go a few months ago, and my opinion improved markedly.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2013, 02:55:42 PM
Anyways, I've only ever seen one episode of TNG and I know next to nothing about the characters, but from what I read online the Borg seems very interesting. I think it'd be kind of interesting to throw Kirk and company up against them. Pit them against a threat they never faced in the original timeline.
23rd century tech would never be useful against the Borg. The Federation didn't invent technology capable of really hurting them until the late 24th century, i.e. First Contact time.
Which is what would make the confrontation between the 'original' crew so interesting, in my mind anyways. Pit them against a foe that they never encountered in the show or movies.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 28, 2013, 10:20:19 PM
23rd century tech would never be useful against the Borg. The Federation didn't invent technology capable of really hurting them until the late 24th century, i.e. First Contact time.
Well as a result of the new timeline the Federation has future tech in the form of Spock Prime's personal ship, and maybe some bits of the Narada survived as well. Something could have potentially been reverse engineered and then expanded upon.
And even if that stuff isn't ever used, it be interesting to see Kirk and company survive because of their wits rather than because of weapons. Pit them against something new and see how this cast reacts.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 28, 2013, 10:20:19 PM
23rd century tech would never be useful against the Borg. The Federation didn't invent technology capable of really hurting them until the late 24th century, i.e. First Contact time.
Unless you count hand-to-hand combat, judging by '
First Contact'. :)
A new Motion Picture - Nemesis Blu-ray box set has been released in the UK.
It is chunky. (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=7607778&postcount=44) :D
Quote from: TJ Doc on May 28, 2013, 11:20:46 PM
A new Motion Picture - Nemesis Blu-ray box set has been released in the UK.
It is chunky. (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=7607778&postcount=44) :D
Seagal Level Chunky (TM)
I actually saw a collection of the TNG movies next to the box set of the TOS movies that I picked up. I considered getting it for approximately 1.5 seconds. Then I remembered how shitty three out of the four films were.
I found this old commercial with William Shatner and James Doohan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIfNv9qLvy4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIfNv9qLvy4#)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 28, 2013, 10:20:19 PM
23rd century tech would never be useful against the Borg. The Federation didn't invent technology capable of really hurting them until the late 24th century, i.e. First Contact time.
Well as a result of the new timeline the Federation has future tech in the form of Spock Prime's personal ship, and maybe some bits of the Narada survived as well. Something could have potentially been reverse engineered and then expanded upon.
And even if that stuff isn't ever used, it be interesting to see Kirk and company survive because of their wits rather than because of weapons. Pit them against something new and see how this cast reacts.
I can't remember when the Borg were beaten with wits rather than force.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 28, 2013, 10:35:10 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 28, 2013, 10:20:19 PM
23rd century tech would never be useful against the Borg. The Federation didn't invent technology capable of really hurting them until the late 24th century, i.e. First Contact time.
Unless you count hand-to-hand combat, judging by 'First Contact'. :)
Good point there. But that doesn't work against Borg vessels :P
I pick up First Contact on Blu-Ray last night. I need to pick up Star Trek II, III, IV, VI and Star Trek '09 on Blu-Ray. I like to collect the movies that I like. I might get TMP in my collection depending on the mood that I'm in.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
Well as a result of the new timeline the Federation has future tech in the form of Spock Prime's personal ship, and maybe some bits of the Narada survived as well. Something could have potentially been reverse engineered and then expanded upon.
And even if that stuff isn't ever used, it be interesting to see Kirk and company survive because of their wits rather than because of weapons. Pit them against something new and see how this cast reacts.
The Borg would simply adapt against the reversed engineered "stuff" so really its a moot point. There would be no real advantage. Check out these videos about the Borg since you don't know about them. Different universe but its an interesting set of videos - a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7txo8OfYONA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7txo8OfYONA#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOV3NXC6eLI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOV3NXC6eLI#)
Thanks for the links, but I'm going to hold off on 'em in case I wind up just giving the original material a go :)
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 29, 2013, 08:00:41 PM
I can't remember when the Borg were beaten with wits rather than force.
Which means it could potentially lead to some exciting and entirely new sequences!
QuoteI can't remember when the Borg were beaten with wits rather than force.
First Contact.
You're referring to Data turning on the Queen?
What else. Data stooged her good and proper.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 30, 2013, 02:41:27 AM
Thanks for the links, but I'm going to hold off on 'em in case I wind up just giving the original material a go :)
Hold off no longer, FOO'EL! Just remember, the golden rule for all the series (TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT) the first 2-3 seasons are usually kinda bad. They all take a few years to blossom. That said, they're pretty damn good sci fi (for the most part).
Quote from: SM on May 30, 2013, 05:12:30 AM
What else. Data stooged her good and proper.
But he thought about it for Zero-point-six-eight seconds.
For an android
That is nearly an eternity.
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I saw
Into Darkness last night. I really, really, enjoyed Abrams' first
Trek movie. It was surprisingly touching, exciting, and felt fresh. The newest film is-
Spoiler
-just as flashy but frankly it's dumb. I've never seen Chekhov's Gun (or rather, Khan's regenerative blood/cryo-missiles) flashed so obviously to the audience; it really defuses some of the tension, it sometimes seems like a cop-out and even reduces what could be dramatic moments to mere popcorn tragedy. Looking at the screenwriters, I knew never to expect anything profound or intricately clever, despite their fine work on the first movie (which is itself admittedly riddled with silly plotting or coincidences). Carol Marcus exists in this movie purely to get her clothes off in one scene. Remove her and nothing changes. I found it utterly strange that they would need Khan's blood for Kirk when they have other super-soldier folk in cryo; it can't be that difficult to draw some blood from one of them, since they removed a guy from one of the tubes.
Saying that, it was ultimately a fun ride. I don't have a great investment in Trek lore so nothing about the changed story from Wrath of Khan bothered me, etc. The visuals and sound were top-notch. Lens flares only interrupted a couple of times, usually during close-ups (such as Uhura's close-up in the shuttle on Chronos). Cumberbatch was not only the best actor in the film (surrounded by other great actors) but he was the all-round best character.
So, it's dumb and completely unaware of it, but still manages to fulfill its promise of being engaging and fun. I think I preferred the first film overall, but the villain here was fantastic. Give Khan a movie of his own. I'd watch him kick ass.
Who else missed Zulu fencing from the first movie? I mean, he was so godly in the first one :o
Quote from: Magegg on May 30, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
Zulu
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Check the spelling of his name. ;)
I KNOW :)
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Nice idea, but that tat looks pretty low quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQI6TT8MJqU#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQI6TT8MJqU#!)
It's clobberin' time!
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Can anyone get me a better pictures in side this bridge for the Bird of pray and also some info on how they control the vessel ?
would be intrtesting to know,
Seems they do it a different way to how the crew control the Enterprise.
thanks.
There are no better pictures as far as I can remember. The only better pics of a Romulian bridge would be from the D'deridex class.
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Managed to find one but obviously its either fan made or some concept stuff.
still see all the detail and things though.
other pics..
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http://redlettermedia.com/mr-plinkett-star-trek-into-reference/ (http://redlettermedia.com/mr-plinkett-star-trek-into-reference/)
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/if-the-internet-had-existed-when-wrath-of-khan-hit-theaters.php?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_61326 (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/if-the-internet-had-existed-when-wrath-of-khan-hit-theaters.php?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_61326)
Christ, that's good. Some of the comments are painful to read, too. :laugh:
Uh... Wrath of Khan spoilers in that link, by the way, in case you didn't know the story yet.
30 year old movies need spoiler warnings?
I'm just overly cautious when it comes to spoilers.
Spoiler
Dorothy could've always gotten home just by clicking her heels together.
Spoiler
;D
You're lucky I've already seen that movie...
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jun 03, 2013, 04:18:13 AM
I'm just overly cautious when it comes to spoilers.
So don't click the link :P
I've seen the movie, though, so I'm good.
Just fair warning for those who haven't.
Who ever seen Wrath of Khan ?
Foughts?
could have been better tbh.
Best Trek flick on every level.
I have to give that nod to ST VI. Two would be my, well, 2nd favourite.
Wrath of Khan has great setups and payoff, apt but subtle literary references (the Shakespeare was quite forced in VI), perfect performances from the cast, awesome soundtrack, awesome villain, awesome space battle, awesome ending.
It's the only Trek flick I can't fault, and the one I revisit the most.
Plummer reciting Shakespeare is never forced.
Although, yeah, I do prefer Wrath of Khan. Still love Undiscovered Country.
As much as I dig VI, the Shakespeare stuff just stuck out as "Look! Look!! Just like Dickens in that other Trek movie you all dug!!"
Quote from: SM on Jun 06, 2013, 04:50:55 AM
Wrath of Khan has great setups and payoff, apt but subtle literary references (the Shakespeare was quite forced in VI), perfect performances from the cast, awesome soundtrack, awesome villain, awesome space battle, awesome ending.
It's the only Trek flick I can't fault, and the one I revisit the most.
Aaaahhhhh, I have to give the last three to VI. II's were awesome to be sure but c'mon man. Christopher Plummer citing Shakespeare, one BOP vs. two Federation vessels leading to the single greatest ship explosion scene EVER, and an ending that is perhaps the perfect send off for a perfect cast.
Spock's ultimate sacrifice or GTFO.
Everything else pales. Especially autographs.
I am a huge ST fan and have been for decades now... however Khan is the only movie from the series I actually like a lot. I have found memories of 4 (because I saw it in the theater) but Khan is the only one I will watch from start to end.
VI also has Scotty kicking the assassin's ass at the end. :)
And Michael Dorn's role as Kirk and McCoy's lawyer. That's just cool.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 06, 2013, 04:57:11 PM
And Michael Dorn's role as Kirk and McCoy's lawyer. That's just cool.
Seemed forced to me.
Way way way too coincidental worf had a lawyer grandfather who tried Kirk.
Like come on.
Were they related? I figured it was just an easy casting choice.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 10, 2013, 03:29:10 AM
Were they related? I figured it was just an easy casting choice.
He's called Colonel Worf or something like that in the credits.
Anyone know where i can get a model of the Enterprise where you can see into the bridge and other departments ? ( i dont care if from the TOS or any other version)
Quote from: Vermillion on Jun 08, 2013, 01:54:36 AM
Seemed forced to me.
Way way way too coincidental worf had a lawyer grandfather who tried Kirk.
Like come on.
You're joking, right? Seeing as that's exactly what happened originally -- Worf's grandfather was around with Kirk?
He was?
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How appropriate that you should post that, given your avatar :D
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 13, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
How appropriate that you should post that, given your avatar :D
Yes
its the blueprints to my Bird of Pray ship
:D
I just saw ST:ID. I liked it a lot more than I expected to. I think it works because there were actual emotional arcs for the characters, despite the crazy goings-ons.
Spoiler
The ending was odd, though. Why didn't they draw blood from the other Khannies for Kirk? Why did they need Khan himself?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jun 16, 2013, 01:25:14 AM
I just saw ST:ID. I liked it a lot more than I expected to. I think it works because there were actual emotional arcs for the characters, despite the crazy goings-ons.
Spoiler
The ending was odd, though. Why didn't they draw blood from the other Khannies for Kirk? Why did they need Khan himself?
I suppose
Spoiler
1) they didn't want to risk waking up another one, you saw what one of them could do
2)They needed to stop Kahn anyway
Star Trek: Into DarknessPretty much everything a blockbuster should be. I loved,
loved this. Had a blast all the way through. Really enjoyed what they did with all the characters. That's how you do a sequel. Easily Abrams' best.
Spoiler
I just wish Kirk's comeback was left for the next film, leaving us with a ESB-ish cliffhanger.
Glad you loved it man! Definitely my favorite movie so far this year.
RELEASE IT ON BLU-RAY ALREADY
Do you guys think we'll ever achieve a Star Trek-style of life one day? Where humans explore space at will like that, making peace and alliances with other races?
I like to think that the achieving relative peace thing and exploring space on a grand scale will happen, but I guess that all depends on how the world goes moving forward.
About the other races, I guess that all depends on whether there are any (and is so whether they are anything vaguely at all like us).
It is my greatest hope for mankind that we eventually find other races which we are capable of having sex with. Be they Vulcan, Klingon, Orion Slave Girl, or Tribble.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 09, 2013, 03:32:24 AM
Do you guys think we'll ever achieve a Star Trek-style of life one day? Where humans explore space at will like that, making peace and alliances with other races?
The biggest thing that Star Trek has shown me, is that we didn't blow each other up to oblivion. That's all I want.
Although, according to the future-history of the series, we tried our damndest sometime in the 21st Century. And then the whole Eugenics War happened... :-\
My cynical side says things are more likely to end up like Babylon 5.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 09, 2013, 03:43:14 AM
Although, according to the future-history of the series, we tried our damndest sometime in the 21st Century. And then the whole Eugenics War happened... :-\
Wasn't it the other way around? Eugenics Wars in late 20th century and WW3 in 21st?
I was under the impression that they ret-conned it sometime in the TNG era when it became evident that the Eugenics Wars weren't gonna happen in the 1990s.
I may be wrong, though. My knowledge of ST lore is a bit squiffy.
Oh, right. My Star Trek timeline book is rather old. Doesn't cover Voyager or any of the Next Gen films.
I just use Memory Alpha now and then.
Eh, I'll stick with the original chronology. It's much more fun to try and fit the Eugenics Wars into actual history.
I wasn't aware that Star Trek has such an extensive backstory, actually. Should be interesting to read up on a little bit of it, now that I'm finally getting into the franchise.
I'm guessing a lot of the backstory has changed now. Or at least there's two versions.
Not including the mirror universe.
Quote from: Xenokiller on Jun 16, 2013, 06:00:52 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jun 16, 2013, 01:25:14 AM
I just saw ST:ID. I liked it a lot more than I expected to. I think it works because there were actual emotional arcs for the characters, despite the crazy goings-ons.
Spoiler
The ending was odd, though. Why didn't they draw blood from the other Khannies for Kirk? Why did they need Khan himself?
I suppose
Spoiler
1) they didn't want to risk waking up another one, you saw what one of them could do
2)They needed to stop Kahn anyway
Spoiler
The problem with (1) is that they do unfreeze another Khannie. Bones puts a guy into an induced coma so that he could make room in the freezer for Kirk.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 09, 2013, 03:54:58 AM
I wasn't aware that Star Trek has such an extensive backstory, actually. Should be interesting to read up on a little bit of it, now that I'm finally getting into the franchise.
If you can, get your hands on The Star Trek Encyclopedia. Yes it's outdated, but it's a really great guide all the same for timelines and general info about what you see in the ST universe.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 09, 2013, 03:36:40 AM
or Tribble.
So you're into bestiality. Fascinating.
;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 09, 2013, 03:35:31 AM
I like to think that the achieving relative peace thing and exploring space on a grand scale will happen, but I guess that all depends on how the world goes moving forward.
If we can stop squabbling over natural resources, maybe one day for sure. The thing with Star Trek is that it presents a world that isn't ruled by money anymore. The only thing that drives humanity forward is the desire for knowledge. Somehow, the current economic system would have to be abolished for that to happen.
Yes Sir.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 09, 2013, 02:15:44 AM
Glad you loved it man! Definitely my favorite movie so far this year.
I agree. Most fun I've had at the theater since
The Avengers!
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 09, 2013, 03:32:24 AM
Do you guys think we'll ever achieve a Star Trek-style of life one day? Where humans explore space at will like that, making peace and alliances with other races?
We have already.
COUGH*Government, NASA , AREA 51(S4), CIA*COUGH
'Babylon 5' always felt infinitely more realistic to me. It dealt with down and dirty subjects, like how poverty and political back-stabbing would still prevail just as much as it tends to today, even in the distant future. Also got lots of acclaim from people at NASA for trying to make the ship designs scientifically possible (even down to the correct rotation to give the station gravity).
Rodenberry had some very strange ideas about his own creation, later on in life...
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 09, 2013, 01:02:56 PM
Rodenberry had some very strange ideas about his own creation, later on in life...
How do you mean?
Anyone a fan of the Enterprise series ?
Not many fans seem to rate it , but i quite like it tbh.
especially that mirror episode where they go back to the orginal Enterprise bridge from the Original Series.
Can't comment on the series because I never watched it. And that, is because I think Scott Bakula is a moronic little twit. He said in an interview once, "No Star Trek captain has ever bled before. I'm the first."
Biggest facepalm of my life.
I've dabbled in it. Honestly, I don't understand the hate. I enjoyed what little of it I've seen.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 09, 2013, 01:02:56 PM
'Babylon 5' always felt infinitely more realistic to me. It dealt with down and dirty subjects, like how poverty and political back-stabbing would still prevail just as much as it tends to today, even in the distant future. Also got lots of acclaim from people at NASA for trying to make the ship designs scientifically possible (even down to the correct rotation to give the station gravity).
I do love me some B5, but I don't think I'd call it more realistic, per se.
I just appreciate the future that Trek presents. Too often in sci-fi, what's to come is presented as all doom and gloom dystopias (I am very guilty of this, myself). Trek is refreshing in showing us a future in which we actually bettered ourselves, improved how we live. It's an optimistic vision, and I love that.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 09, 2013, 09:43:18 PM
Can't comment on the series because I never watched it. And that, is because I think Scott Bakula is a moronic little twit. He said in an interview once, "No Star Trek captain has ever bled before. I'm the first."
Biggest facepalm of my life.
Yeah I Know I think Scott Bakula shouldnt have the part tbh.
Dominic Keating is a good actor though he plays the part of Lieutenant Malcolm Reed.
If the Godawful theme song to Enterprise wasn't enough to make you change channels, the show itself will make the decision easier.
Aye, the theme was a horrid decision.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 09, 2013, 01:02:56 PM
'Babylon 5' always felt infinitely more realistic to me. It dealt with down and dirty subjects, like how poverty and political back-stabbing would still prevail just as much as it tends to today, even in the distant future.
High five.
I liked some of Enterprise. It wasn't terrible, I liked it over Voyager.
Quote from: SM on Jul 10, 2013, 12:30:38 AM
If the Godawful theme song to Enterprise wasn't enough to make you change channels, the show itself will make the decision easier.
I always thought you were an Enterprise fan.
I watched roughly half of an Enterprise episode, and then proceeded to forget all about it. And I'm a Bakula fan.
My fav episode in the Enterprise series
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Part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsExp2ebB4s#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsExp2ebB4s#ws)
Part2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlIOCjWLgXE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlIOCjWLgXE#ws)
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 10, 2013, 08:26:03 AM
I liked some of Enterprise. It wasn't terrible, I liked it over Voyager.
I liked Voyager!! That series gets a share of flak that sometimes I feel is overwhelming. It was set in a new part of the ST universe that had never been explored before and it made for new stories with new adventures and it was fun to watch.
Finally, someone else who liked Voyager.
Oh, dude. Best episode: Scorpion, Part 1. Seeing the Borg cubes be blown to hell at the start of it made me :o
and dat ending
Picked up season one of TNG. I've watched about half of Encounter at Farpoint so far. It's decent enough, but it feels way too damn long.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 13, 2013, 03:19:01 AM
Oh, dude. Best episode: Scorpion, Part 1. Seeing the Borg cubes be blown to hell at the start of it made me :o
If that's the episode with Species 8472, then yep, that were awesome.
Some people have complained the Borg were made into wimps with Voyager. That somehow the introduction of Species 8472 was a bad thing.
I've heard more complaints about the Borg getting punked by am obvious time bomb.
When was that?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 13, 2013, 03:19:01 AM
Oh, dude. Best episode: Scorpion, Part 1. Seeing the Borg cubes be blown to hell at the start of it made me :o
and dat ending
Damn I really enjoyed that episode as well! The Borg have been the go-to oh shit enemies for so long, always near-invincible badasses, that I found it very affective with Species 8427(?) kicking the crap out of them. It was creepy.
Borg queens vessel is pretty niceee
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Borg_Queen%27s_vessel (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Borg_Queen%27s_vessel)
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Star Trek 3 may film next year:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/13/quinto-says-third-star-trek-movie-may-shoot-next-year (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/13/quinto-says-third-star-trek-movie-may-shoot-next-year)
I'd much prefer if it filmed after 2014 so that Abrams can come back...
Hear, hear!
I'd like him to come back for just one more, let him round out a trilogy. Then, bring in other directors for the ones after that.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 14, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
Hear, hear!
I'd like him to come back for just one more, let him round out a trilogy. Then, bring in other directors for the ones after that.
"Other ones after that?" I guess they'll have to kill Spock in the third film, then, since Zachary Quinto has stated to dislike portraying the character.
Quote from: Magegg on Jul 15, 2013, 12:30:35 AM
since Zachary Quinto has stated to dislike portraying the character.
I've never heard that before, at all. I do, however, know that he and Leonard Nimoy became genuinely good friends after meeting for the 2009 film. He has said that after ST3 he wants to movie on and expand into other roles, but never came close to stating that he hates the role.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 14, 2013, 09:18:07 PM
Star Trek 3 may film next year:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/13/quinto-says-third-star-trek-movie-may-shoot-next-year (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/13/quinto-says-third-star-trek-movie-may-shoot-next-year)
I'd much prefer if it filmed after 2014 so that Abrams can come back...
I'm concerned about "it's going to be made much faster". What's the rush?
I don't know if I'd necessarily call it a rush, to be honest. There were four years between the previous two films, which is longer than most big budget Hollywood blockbusters usually have between sequels. Maybe this time they are just looking to get started earlier.
Am I the only one who thinks that Jason Momoa would be an awesome Klingon?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 15, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
I don't know if I'd necessarily call it a rush, to be honest. There were four years between the previous two films, which is longer than most big budget Hollywood blockbusters usually have between sequels. Maybe this time they are just looking to get started earlier.
Also, if they base the story on a previous Star Trek film, just like they did with Into Darkness, the writing will be faster and easier.
I personally hope that they don't do that, honestly. Into Darkness was great, but moving forward I would love to see them do something that the other series haven't done before.
My hope for villains in upcoming Trek films.
Klingons, for obvious reasons.
The Borg, again, for obvious reasons.
Tribbles. Sure, they only ate grain in the original episode. But what do you think they eat when the grain runs out?
Borg Klingons.
Those parasite things from TNG season one, who never showed up again.
Were they in the infamous 'exploding head episode'?
Not sure. I haven't seen the episode, but the alien sounded cool.
From the end of that episode, I thought it was something that could be brought back at a later date, but I've read there was a high level of disdain for it, so it was never touched on again.
It's too bad. The last few minutes of that ep were radical.
Like something a young Peter Jackson would have directed.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 16, 2013, 12:21:05 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 15, 2013, 11:00:07 PM
Borg Klingons.
No.
Borg Tribbles.
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Quote from: SM on Jul 15, 2013, 11:09:00 PM
From the end of that episode, I thought it was something that could be brought back at a later date, but I've read there was a high level of disdain for it, so it was never touched on again.
Why disdain? People are too squeamish?
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83547 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83547)
Quote- Feature film in high definition
- Creating the Red Planet – Experience the creation of a never-before-seen alien world, as featured in the action-packed opening sequence of the film.
- Attack on Starfleet – Go behind the scenes with the cast and filmmakers and witness the creation of the shocking attack on Starfleet Headquarters.
- The Klingon Home World – Discover the stunning world of Kronos, and see how the filmmakers reinvented the Klingons for a new generation.
- The Enemy of My Enemy – Find out how, and why, the identity of the film's true villain was kept a mystery to the very end.
- Ship to Ship – An in-depth and thrilling look at the filming of the iconic space jump sequence, which both defied the laws of physics and pushed the limits of visual effects.
- Brawl by the Bay – Sit in with Zachary Quinto and Benedict Cumberbatch as they revisit their intense preparation for the film's breathtaking climax.
- Continuing the Mission – An inspiring look at the partnership between the film's crew and the organization that assists returning veterans to find meaningful ways to contribute on the home front.
This is gonna be one good looking Bluray.
Hummm interesting looking bluray
lol @Kronos.
The cover for the 2D Blu Ray looks pretty terrible :-\
Still, this is gonna be a fantastic release! Can't wait to get my hands on it!
Quote from: Shasvre on Jul 18, 2013, 08:08:44 PM
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Oh god
dammit. Seriously?
Hopefully Futureshop has an exclusive cover... because what a
shitty cover that is. I wish they'd just use the theatrical poster with the Enterprise falling into Earth's atmosphere.
It's the worst cover I've ever seen. It's like they're trying to push you into paying for the 3D edition.
You really need to get out more.
And just buy the 2D version and remember it's the movie you want ultimately, not the cover.
UK Steelbook (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Into-Darkness-Blu-ray/dp/B00E0K3E72?SubscriptionId=AKIAIY4YSQJMFDJATNBA&tag=bluraycom-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00E0K3E72&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)
Spoiler
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For maximum Thundersnatch.
The Enterprise looks a bit oddly placed on the steelbook, but otherwise that is a much better cover.
Kirk looks cross-eyed as f**k.
THOR And X-MEN: FIRST CLASS Scribes Reportedly Hired To Co-Write STAR TREK 3
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83917#mmTqs7ZgFZhZstOB.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83917#mmTqs7ZgFZhZstOB.99)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 22, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
THOR And X-MEN: FIRST CLASS Scribes Reportedly Hired To Co-Write STAR TREK 3
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83917#mmTqs7ZgFZhZstOB.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83917#mmTqs7ZgFZhZstOB.99)
Awesome if true.
Good news.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Jul 22, 2013, 08:00:23 PM
Good news.
Why? You want comic book superhero writers penning a science fiction odyssey?
Like Ray Bradbury writing a screen play for the sequel to Pretty Woman!
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 22, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Jul 22, 2013, 08:00:23 PM
Good news.
comic book superhero writers
Writing a couple of movies of a certain genre restricts you to that one? Those guys had careers BEFORE those movies came across. It's like saying Spielberg should have sticked to shark & sci-fi movies.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Jul 22, 2013, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 22, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Jul 22, 2013, 08:00:23 PM
Good news.
comic book superhero writers
Writing a couple of movies of a certain genre restricts you to that one? Those guys had careers BEFORE those movies came across. It's like saying Spielberg should have sticked to shark & sci-fi movies.
Spielberg is a director/producer. Huge difference.
My point stands still. You don't become a comic-head because of writing a couple of scripts.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 22, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
THOR And X-MEN: FIRST CLASS Scribes Reportedly Hired To Co-Write STAR TREK 3
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83917#mmTqs7ZgFZhZstOB.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=83917#mmTqs7ZgFZhZstOB.99)
Well, X:FC was a great film so it could work. I wasn't sold on Thor though.
Fok. Star Trek is not a superhero film!
Let JK Rowling write it. She seems to be a fair writer.
Idiots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLGH0VHUVs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLGH0VHUVs#ws)
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 24, 2013, 05:58:18 PM
Fok. Star Trek is not a superhero film!
It's not a Mission Impossible movie either, yet they let Abrams direct it >:(
Seriously, though...what does it matter what genre the writers have previously written in? Superhero or no,
Thor and
X-Men: First Class were both good films.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 24, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 24, 2013, 05:58:18 PM
Fok. Star Trek is not a superhero film!
It's not a Mission Impossible movie either, yet they let Abrams direct it >:(
Seriously, though...what does it matter what genre the writers have previously written in? Superhero or no, Thor and X-Men: First Class were both good films.
This is pretty much my thinking on this. Yeah it's a different genre but that doesn't mean they can't write something else, also those 2 movies were great so until we hear anything more, I don't think this is something to worry about.
Here is what I am working on ATM...
Do you guys remember this puppit from the TOS episode "The Corbomite Maneuver"
Its name is Balok
Im using an animation software called "Poser" and used Maya 3D modelling software to Model Balok.
Take a look (work in progress atm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsa39ooOomI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsa39ooOomI#)
Sweet!!! That looks great dude! I look forward to seeing the finished thing.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 31, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Sweet!!! That looks great dude! I look forward to seeing the finished thing.
Glad you like dude :)
Also here is another one i did with the Bird of Prey...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGFWHjI3No# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGFWHjI3No#)
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Got to love this scene :D
so fake ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4#)
Quote from: Commander Keras on Jul 31, 2013, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 31, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Sweet!!! That looks great dude! I look forward to seeing the finished thing.
Glad you like dude :)
Also here is another one i did with the Bird of Prey...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGFWHjI3No# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGFWHjI3No#)
I thought the Klingons had Birds of Prey, and the Romulans commanded Warbirds?
Quote from: RagingDragon on Aug 21, 2013, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: Commander Keras on Jul 31, 2013, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 31, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Sweet!!! That looks great dude! I look forward to seeing the finished thing.
Glad you like dude :)
Also here is another one i did with the Bird of Prey...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGFWHjI3No# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGFWHjI3No#)
I thought the Klingons had Birds of Prey, and the Romulans commanded Warbirds?
Throughout the whole Star Trek series both Romulans and Klingons had Birds of Prey.
The Klingons stole some Birds Of Prey and also made there own.
But yes Romulans have Warbirds too.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_Bird-of-Prey_%2823rd_century%29 (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_Bird-of-Prey_%2823rd_century%29)
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey)
Ah badass Romulans how great they were.
Also klingons got cloaking devices during the brief alliance they had with the romulans.
*is a Romulan fan*
I think the whole bit about Fed vessels not having cloaking devices was stupid. It was obviously an advantage when it came to battle situations.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 22, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
I think the whole bit about Fed vessels not having cloaking devices was stupid. It was obviously an advantage when it came to battle situations.
The Federation would love to get their hands on a Romulan or Klingon ship for that purpose!!
Quote from: Commander Keras on Aug 21, 2013, 08:54:32 PM
Throughout the whole Star Trek series both Romulans and Klingons had Birds of Prey.
The Klingons stole some Birds Of Prey and also made there own.
But yes Romulans have Warbirds too.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_Bird-of-Prey_%2823rd_century%29 (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_Bird-of-Prey_%2823rd_century%29)
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey)
Thanks, commander!
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How dumb can hardcore trekkies be?
Simon Pegg, you are the man. Keep calm and carry on.
Worst than The Final Frontier?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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How dumb can hardcore trekkies be?
Testify.
Wasn't the worst by quite a stretch, don't think I'd call it the best either though. Personaly I liked it.
It's up there for best. Has some stiff competition, though.
My top 10 ST films are:
1. Undiscovered Country
2. Into Darkness
3. Wrath of Khan
4. Voyage Home
5. First Contact
6. Star Trek '09
7. Nemesis
8. Search for Spock
9. Insurrection
10. Final Frontier
Yes, I rank FF ahead of Generations.
I still need to watch the sixth through tenth Star Trek films, but I honestly feel like I am the only person that would put the original The Motion Picture on top. Abrams' 2009 film is second by a very slim margin.
I wouldn't put it on top, but I do hold it in high regard. I have a soft spot for that sorta slow, cerebral sci-fi. Warts and all, it's a beautiful film with compelling themes and some ingenious sequences.
The start could be better, though.
TMP was a joke. I mean...what the hell, man? 2001 wasn't exactly an action-packed movie but it was a million times more engaging.
Spock entering V'ger is one of the most impressive and beautiful sequences I have seen in any film. The twist at the end was fantastic, as well.
All of the problems are in the first half of the film.
Yeah, the pacing was all over the place for the first half hour or so, but once it passed that portion of the film it became something really special.
I loved the whole Motion Picture, I think it was magnificent :D
But I didn't watch it on the theater but at home. I think I know why people on the theaters were pissed off by the pace.
People these days have ADD and cant appreciate space opera pieces.
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 25, 2013, 06:24:06 AMPeople these days have ADD and cant appreciate space opera pieces.
Wasn't TMP released at the '70s? ???
Late 70s.
It's always been seen as needlessly slow because it is.
Aye, I agree with that. Pacing is its biggest issue.
I like the parts where they look at stuff.
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 25, 2013, 06:24:06 AM
People these days have ADD and cant appreciate space opera pieces.
I can, as long as there's something to grab my attention. Star Trek can be slow but even by that series' standards, TMP was an exercise in patience I can't tolerate.
Anyway,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4#)
The HISHE part made me laugh.
Lol at the wormhole effect in TMP. It cost as much for that scene as the entire cost of Star Wars!
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 25, 2013, 07:10:34 PM
Lol at the wormhole effect in TMP. It cost as much for that scene as the entire cost of Star Wars!
And it was completely pointless.
I thought it was breathtaking, personally. Very memorable scene.
Its point was to further set Kirk against Decker. Decker knows the ship better than Kirk at this point, having surpervised the refit. Plus it happens in front of the crew. Conflict = drama.
Staring at a 2001-esque trip through V'Ger as well as long loving tracking shots of the Enterprise for what seems like hours on end = boredom.
The score largely saves it.
I agree. The score was the only memorable thing about the film. Another thing I didn't like about it were the crew uniforms. They looked very bland, almost like 23rd century jumpsuits than uniforms.
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Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 23, 2013, 06:26:08 PM
TMP was a joke. I mean...what the hell, man? 2001 wasn't exactly an action-packed movie but it was a million times more engaging.
-_- The first Star Trek film is one of the better ones, classic science fiction, the latest is nonsense.
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 28, 2013, 06:08:45 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 23, 2013, 06:26:08 PM
TMP was a joke. I mean...what the hell, man? 2001 wasn't exactly an action-packed movie but it was a million times more engaging.
-_- The first Star Trek film is one of the better ones, classic science fiction, the latest is nonsense.
Better ones? Sure. If you enjoy a whole load of nothing.
It's easier to watch with rose coloured glasses.
Ah well then. I think mine broke when I became an adult :P
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I like how the ridges travel done their necks.
I don't think that was there with the one guy we saw.
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Almost makes Insurrection and Nemesis interesting.
Quote from: Commander Keras on Aug 22, 2013, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 22, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
I think the whole bit about Fed vessels not having cloaking devices was stupid. It was obviously an advantage when it came to battle situations.
The Federation would love to get their hands on a Romulan or Klingon ship for that purpose!!
The Federation Already has the technology to build a cloaking device (well by TNG time anyway). It was a treaty with the Romulans that stopped them from doing it. In a TNG episode the Federation had secretly built a ship that could not only cloak but Phase through solid objects. The Feds were usually ahead of the Romulans and Klingons in most technology, but the Romulans and Klingons just spent more of their budget on defence.
The Insurrection one is lovely.
Saw Into Darkness again last night and gave me a hankering for some Peter Weller action. Luckily he guested on two episodes of Enterprise as another war monger! This time, trying to keep the human gene pool clean and wanting to kick out all aliens from Mars.
Have watched the shows periodically, it's great to have Netflix to jump around shows. Anybody have a favorite series/crew?
THAT REVIEW BETTER BE EXTREMELY POSITIVE HUBBS.
Star Trek Into Darkness (2013)
The rebooted crew are back and this time they're going into darkness? trekking into darkness? how does this title fit the story? moving on. The first film in this new era reboot was a huge success and rightly so, it was an exciting sci-fi romp, does this remake/re-imagining of 'The Wrath of Khan' work just as well?.
We kick off admittedly with a very nice looking yet clear Indy rip, all that was missing was a giant rolling boulder. Instantly you can see this film is gonna be a treat visually, modern films have gotten to a point now where they do (can) look extremely polished and slick, and this film is easily top of its game in the effects department, its beautiful. I do especially love futuristic London and the look of future Earth in general, so much detail, so much going on, the newer Star Wars trilogy pales in comparison. I could of course mention the immense use of lens flare but I think everyone knows that now and it merely blends into the background, some looking very nice.
Lets get down n dirty here, the plot, the main issue of the film is the badly written, disjointed, confusing plot which makes no sense. I'm still not sure what exactly was the point of half of it. 'Marcus' finds 'Khan' and his crew floating around in space I believe, but where exactly? why was Khan in suspended animation in the first place? whose ship was he on? etc...nothing given away there. Now I think about it once Khan was discovered how did anyone know he and his mates were genetically-engineered superhumans? and why awake just one?. Anyhow Marcus wants Khan to develop advanced technology and weapons...but the guy is 300 years old, surely he's gonna be slightly out of touch with modern day tech? right?? guess not.
There doesn't appear to be any real goals or reasons for anyone in this film, Marcus wants Khan to create new advanced gear and then...? start a war with the Klingon's, why?. He intends to start this war by getting 'Kirk' to fight missiles at Khan who is hiding in an uninhabited area of the Klingon homeworld, but how did he know Khan would hide there? what if he hid on another world?. And why exactly are Khan's crew stuffed in these missiles?? risky place to smuggle them isn't it?...well isn't it?!. And no one suspects the fact there are 72 missiles exactly, not maybe 10 or 20 but 72! odd high number isn't it? well isn't it?!.
The character story arcs are just all over the place with little sense or connection, its all so vague. The only reason Khan doesn't set off the bomb in London by himself at the start is so they could introduce his super blood into the plot. There is no other reason for that entire sequence with the black man and his daughter. Oh and an exploding ring? eh? wut??. On the subject of Khan's super blood why does everyone tear around trying to get his blood, why not use some of the blood from his crew? surely theirs is super too, isn't it?.
On the subject of Khan I really must say I don't understand what the fuss was about with Cumberbatch. Now I'm not saying the guy did a bad job, not at all, but as far as I'm concerned his performance on the whole was just very average, his entire range boiled down to over pronunciation of his words. As a character he wasn't particularly interesting either, a very bland generic looking bad guy (or was he? he just wanted to save his crew) who blended into the background, accept when he's killing everyone like an unstoppable superhero (Khan never did that in the original second Trek film).
I also think Cumberbatch is miscast in the role frankly, he's so dull looking, so uniform, that it destroys the character of Khan. There is nothing special about the guy anymore, no flair, no razzle dazzle, its just a bog standard looking white guy. Why didn't they cast a man from South Asia or at least someone with a clear ethnic background. Old Spock calls him by his full name in the film, 'Khan Noonien Singh', but he's white!! clearly white British with a British accent for pete's sake.
And while I'm on the subject what exactly is Khan's game? save his crew...check, errrr...and then?. What is his goal?? old Spock reckons to kill everyone inferior to himself, but Khan never says that I believe, I don't think we ever get told what he actually wants to do...after saving his crew.
On the whole there is so much badly written plot in here it just ruins whatever it was they were trying for..and I'm not sure what really. Khan's super blood cures death and they have him captured so that means no one will ever die in this universe now? there is a cure for most death related injuries and a good supply of blood if they can keep Khan alive. As said old Spock turns up AGAIN!, whenever they are really in the shit he just pops up and tells them everything they need to know almost like a videogame cheat. Yet how the hell does he manage to get in contact with them? its like some kind of Jedi trick. There also seems to be interplanetary transporters now...sooooo doesn't that do away with the need for spaceships?, oh and cold fusion doesn't...ah who cares.
The idea of a cure for death brings me to the death of Spock in the classic film. That was a shockwave for everybody at the time, I don't think people saw it coming, no one really knew if he was gonna come back, could he come back?, was that it for the lovable legendary Spock?. In this film we see Kirk get killed in a silly play on that iconic sequence. The difference is we know for a fact he won't really be dead because he is the main flipping character and we've only been given two films in the new reboot franchise, so of course he will come back. This makes the entire scene completely devoid of any emotion, in fact its pretty pointless, utter fail of a scene.
That of course in turn leads me to mention the iconic 'KHAAANNNN!' moment. We all know of the classic version of course but what of this regurgitated version?. Well its kinda silly really, the fact is these two guys have only known each other for a relatively short period of time (two films), so again the emotions don't really bubble much when Spock blubbers over Kirk, zero emotions in fact. Plus of course as I just mentioned we all know that Kirk will definitely be back from the dead somehow (oh wait, we saw how earlier in the film with the Tribble, where did they find a Tribble?) so the whole thing is just plain dumb. These moments are in the new film purely to get the hardcore old school Trekkies wet and a rather weak attempt to be clever simply by reversing stuff when in fact its more of an insult to the 82 film. Spock died in the original so lets make Kirk die here, Kirk screams out Khan so lets...you get the drift, genius writing huh.
I feel bad giving this a poor write up because there are elements in this I like, loved the new look Klingons and their 'Predator-like' masks, nicely aggressive and intimidating. The main problem is this isn't a Star Trek film, its not a proper Trekkie flick, its merely a generic action flick set in space that just happens to be the Star Trek universe. You could quite easily replace the Star Trek crew with 'John McClane' and call it a Die Hard film. Long gone are the slow moving, character based genuine science fiction Trek films, its all shooting, death, explosions and the obligatory destruction porn which seems to be a complete requirement these days.
As a stand alone film the first Trek reboot was a fine film, this sequel is simply loud messy action folly with lavish visuals. There isn't really much I can recommend here if you're a true Star Trek fan, regular film goers may enjoy it of course but that's only because this isn't proper Star Trek (which is what they were aiming for). All I can say is I really hope they don't try and reuse more of the classic films, why not try and make you're own classic cinematic moments instead of copying some one else's. A reasonably entertaining watch no doubt but hardly memorable or groundbreaking, wholly average, very lazy, very jumbled, half a mark up for visuals.
5.5/10
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People are complaining that Benedict is white ergo he can't play a guy named Singh? Last time I checked, Ricardo Montalban wasn't East Indian either. herp derp.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2013, 12:09:48 PM
People are complaining that Benedict is white ergo he can't play a guy named Singh? Last time I checked, Ricardo Montalban wasn't East Indian either. herp derp.
Yeah but you don't need to be Indian, but at least have some ethnicity about you. Montalban wasn't Indian but he had an ethnic look about him, he wasn't an out n out white Englishman.
I've met one or two East Indians that looked more white than anything else.
RD-D2 is in Into Darkness: http://io9.com/r2-d2-spotted-in-star-trek-into-darkness-1273196593 (http://io9.com/r2-d2-spotted-in-star-trek-into-darkness-1273196593)
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Sep 08, 2013, 04:45:41 PM
RD-D2 is in Into Darkness: http://io9.com/r2-d2-spotted-in-star-trek-into-darkness-1273196593 (http://io9.com/r2-d2-spotted-in-star-trek-into-darkness-1273196593)
Yeah I noticed that aswell :)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
I've met one or two East Indians that looked more white than anything else.
Many people from northern India have fairer skin, especially compared to southern Indians.
Hardly call them 'white'.
I really don't get the fuss about the ethnicity of the character.
Why does having Khan played by an Indian guy make it better? Serious question.
It's a very high-profile role, and very few of those ever go to Indian actors.
I did love Cabbagepatch in this, but I think it would've worked better if he were a different character.
Quote from: Highland on Sep 09, 2013, 12:35:03 AM
I really don't get the fuss about the ethnicity of the character.
Why does having Khan played by an Indian guy make it better? Serious question.
I don't think it's so much 'better' or 'worse' as it is the fact that, while this is a reboot, it is still technically the same character as the one in the original series, just an alternative version in a different timeline. So one would assume that he looks the same (or at least as similar as the new Enterprise crew look in comparison to the original Enterprise crew) as he did in his previous appearance.
That being said, I personally had no problem with it. I loved Cumberbatch in the role.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Sep 09, 2013, 12:37:31 AM
I did love Cabbagepatch in this, but I think it would've worked better if he were a different character.
Yeah, that would have been really cool as well. If John Harrison was just one of many supersoldiers that could have been unlocked, and Khan was among the ones sleeping with the potential of appearing in another film.
Maybe Section 31 turned him white... I guess?
I think it should be taken into account that many of these characters are "in name only", as not to simply rehash the exact same character traits of the TOS crew. Many of them all grow and change in different ways, have different companions, altered back stories, whatever; completely different universe with entirely different possibilities. Having Khan change ethnicity on top of character traits really doesn't phase me, nor does it surprise me.
He could've been Japanese or African, the point is that he was the commander of the Botany Bay, a conquerer from the Eugenics War, and the only, and most vicious of the augmented humans to be taken out of cryo (which, if I can recall, was specifically because he was the commander). Khan is just the name to be associated with that role, so character traits and ethnicity really don't make much of a difference on top of that.
And besides, wasn't there something about identity alteration, name being part of this, going on in Into Darkness?
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Sep 09, 2013, 12:55:19 AM
I think it should be taken into account that many of these characters are "in name only", as not to simply rehash the exact same character traits of the TOS crew. Many of them all grow and change in different ways, have different companions, altered back stories, whatever; completely different universe with entirely different possibilities. Having Khan change ethnicity on top of character traits really doesn't phase me, nor does it surprise me.
He could've been Japanese or African, the point is that he was the commander of the Botany Bay, a conquerer from the Eugenics War, and the only, and most vicious of the augmented humans to be taken out of cryo (which, if I can recall, was specifically because he was the commander). Khan is just the name to be associated with that role, so character traits and ethnicity really don't make much of a difference on top of that.
And besides, wasn't there something about identity alteration, name being part of this, going on in Into Darkness?
Yeah, he was working in cognito for Marcus and Section 31.
Quote from: Highland on Sep 09, 2013, 12:35:03 AM
I really don't get the fuss about the ethnicity of the character.
Why does having Khan played by an Indian guy make it better? Serious question.
I haven't seen the flick so can't comment either way on the performance. Casting someone of a particular racial group with someone from another racial group is something of a bug bear of mine. It was a different time in the 1960s and couldn't be helped. Using Montalban again Wrath of Khan made sense in terms of continuity, plus he delivered a great performance despite neither looking or sound Indian.
I wasn't all over the build up to Into Darkness, but wasn't it kept under wraps that Cumberbatch was playing a guy called Khan? Casting someone with Indian heritage would've blown that surprise.
But site unseen - on general principle I personally would've preferred an Indian cast as an Indian character.
Quote from: SM on Sep 09, 2013, 01:02:51 AM
Quote from: Highland on Sep 09, 2013, 12:35:03 AM
I really don't get the fuss about the ethnicity of the character.
Why does having Khan played by an Indian guy make it better? Serious question.
I haven't seen the flick so can't comment either way on the performance. Casting someone of a particular racial group with someone from another racial group is something of a bug bear of mine. It was a different time in the 1960s and couldn't be helped. Using Montalban again Wrath of Khan made sense in terms of continuity, plus he delivered a great performance despite neither looking or sound Indian.
I wasn't all over the build up to Into Darkness, but wasn't it kept under wraps that Cumberbatch was playing a guy called Khan? Casting someone with Indian heritage would've blown that surprise.
But site unseen - on general principle I personally would've preferred an Indian cast as an Indian character.
To hide the twist does make a lot of sense although I wouldn't say the twist was all that revealing. I'm sure most of the Star Trek fans got it before the cat was out the bag. As a loose fan myself (I watch the shows, I follow the movies but, I wouldn't say I was a fan) , it made no difference to me that he was revealed as Khan, he might as well have stayed as John Harrison as far as impact goes.
The only other point I would question is that if Khan is a genetic creation, is he in fact Indian anyway? I don't remember (correction welcome) any of his other crew members being Indian, in fact I don't remember him being Indian relevant at all in the old movie (it has been quite some time since I saw it).
I could be completely wrong on all of that. Just my thoughts as a somewhat neutral.
I think the name and Nehru collars are a bit of a giveaway.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Sep 09, 2013, 12:55:19 AM
And besides, wasn't there something about identity alteration, name being part of this, going on in Into Darkness?
Yeah, that's how I always explained it away. The usual "alternate timeline" explanation doesn't really fit here, since the Eugenics War and the departure of the Botany Bay both occurred long before the Narada divergence.
Id rather have cumberbatch then get someone like dev patel. f**king avatar
Y'know, there's more than a billion Indians. I'm sure a few of them are good actors.
Dev Patel was great in Slumdog and is great in Newsroom.
Aamir Khan could easily handle a more dramatic Hollywood role. Salman Khan or Shah Rukh Khan, not so much.
Quote from: SM on Sep 09, 2013, 12:19:03 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
I've met one or two East Indians that looked more white than anything else.
Many people from northern India have fairer skin, especially compared to southern Indians.
Hardly call them 'white'.
I said "looked", not "are" white.
There's always Evil Apu from AMazing Spider-Man, I guess.
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=29412 (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=29412)
...he better not direct three Star Wars movies then.
Just glad he's keeping some creative control. Though I would've loved it if he could've rounded out a trilogy before passing on the mantle.
He should direct Star Trek 3. For consistency, at least :(
Really unfortunate that he's not going to be directing the third film, but like Sweeps said at least he's still creatively involved.
I think the name that I'm pulling for right now is Drew Goddard. He definitely has his foot in the water with Abrams via Lost, and I loved his work on The Cabin in the Woods.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 14, 2013, 05:01:45 AM
Really unfortunate that he's not going to be directing the third film, but like Sweeps said at least he's still creatively involved.
*ahem*
Oh...
So uhhh, that's how people mix up members with similar sets, huh? :D
It would appear so. :laugh:
...again, he better not direct 3 Star Wars movies. That would be a complete slap in the face to Star Trek :P
I doubt he will. And even if he does, he's always loved Star Wars more, so it'd be understandable.
It might be easy to follow, but it would hardly be "understandable" in a forgiving sense. :P
Quote from: Aspie on Sep 14, 2013, 01:21:10 AM
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=29412 (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=29412)
...he better not direct three Star Wars movies then.
Damn shame. I think he had a great vision for the ST movies.
In case this wasn't posted:
http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/569755-exclusive-j-j-abrams-apologizes-for-his-lens-flares (http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/569755-exclusive-j-j-abrams-apologizes-for-his-lens-flares)
There's nothing to apologize for, TBH.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 04, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
There's nothing to apologize for, TBH.
Agreed. Also, they were significantly toned down in comparison to the first film. Though I didn't have a problem with them in the first film, either.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 04, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 04, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
There's nothing to apologize for, TBH.
Agreed. Also, they were significantly toned down in comparison to the first film. Though I didn't have a problem with them in the first film, either.
I didn't even notice the lens flares until people started bitching about them.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 04, 2013, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 04, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 04, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
There's nothing to apologize for, TBH.
Agreed. Also, they were significantly toned down in comparison to the first film. Though I didn't have a problem with them in the first film, either.
I didn't even notice the lens flares until people started bitching about them.
Same here.
I still don't notice them, at least not when actually watching the movies.
Not sure how to feel about that.
I only see them when I look for them.
Which I don't. 'Cause I prefer to watch my movies rather than nitpick them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFZNqI8mc8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFZNqI8mc8#)
white guy playing indian name character
shit film 1/10
fuked casting tri harder
wrath of mowgli was better worst stra trek / jungle book eva
Love how the Klingons got their asses handed to them again in the new film. I know Khan is an Awesome fighter but they could have taken out a few or more of the Federation team that was there. Those guys went down easier than Stormtroopers. Despite being meant to be these awesome warriors from a warrior society they always seem to be bad fighters. Nero took out a bunch of Klingons easily as well from the deleted scenes in the first film and in Deep Space Nine the only guys they ever seemed to beat were the Cardassians.
Hopefully if they make a third film with Klingons as the main villains they make them a bit tougher and harder to kill and give them some traits that would show why they are a feared military threat. And can someone explain how they got so close to the Klingon's homeworld without being detected. I could understand if it was an outer colony but this was Qo'Nos their homeworld and the Enterprise is an uncloaked Federation Starship!
Hopefully we can see some intelligent cunning Klingons that can pose a threat in the third film.
Quote from: HappyAlien on Oct 05, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
Hopefully we can see some intelligent cunning Klingons that can pose a threat in the third film.
The start of the Klingon conflict could indeed be quite cool to see. Although personally I would love to see either the Borg or something completely original. And more space exploration.
But the Klingon was could make an excellent backdrop for any story.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 04, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
In case this wasn't posted:
http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/569755-exclusive-j-j-abrams-apologizes-for-his-lens-flares (http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/569755-exclusive-j-j-abrams-apologizes-for-his-lens-flares)
It only became irritating after it was pointed out to me. Frankly, at this point it's moot since he won't be directing the next film as I recall.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 05, 2013, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Oct 05, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
Hopefully we can see some intelligent cunning Klingons that can pose a threat in the third film.
The start of the Klingon conflict could indeed be quite cool to see. Although personally I would love to see either the Borg or something completely original. And more space exploration.
But the Klingon was could make an excellent backdrop for any story.
My hope for future villains:
Klingons
Borg
Something original
Man-eating tribbles
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Oct 05, 2013, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 05, 2013, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Oct 05, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
Hopefully we can see some intelligent cunning Klingons that can pose a threat in the third film.
The start of the Klingon conflict could indeed be quite cool to see. Although personally I would love to see either the Borg or something completely original. And more space exploration.
But the Klingon was could make an excellent backdrop for any story.
My hope for future villains:
Klingons
Borg
Something original
Man-eating tribbles
Your outline is the best outline. I just hope that the cast sticks around for more than one more film. Pretty sure Kirk and Spock are only signed on for one more.
If they don't stick around, I hope that the next cast we get (be it in the original timeline or this alternate universe) is an entirely new set of characters.
Honestly, I could do without seeing the Borg ever again. That's one horse that got the f**k beat out of it.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 05, 2013, 08:57:36 PM
Honestly, I could do without seeing the Borg ever again. That's one horse that got the f**k beat out of it.
I'd just love to see Kirk 'n Crew take a swing.
Yup, that would be quite interesting.
I'm gonna be having my first encounter (or should I say FIRST CONTACT, heh :P) when I watch First Contact. Just have to watch Generations first.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Oct 05, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 05, 2013, 08:57:36 PM
Honestly, I could do without seeing the Borg ever again. That's one horse that got the f**k beat out of it.
I'd just love to see Kirk 'n Crew take a swing.
With more time travel so they can bring back Shatner. ;D
And Kelley.
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Quote from: SpaceMarines on Oct 05, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 05, 2013, 08:57:36 PM
Honestly, I could do without seeing the Borg ever again. That's one horse that got the f**k beat out of it.
I'd just love to see Kirk 'n Crew take a swing.
Only if Species 8472 makes a comeback.
Quote from: SM on Oct 06, 2013, 10:26:44 PM
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God.
I was not aware of that.
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Awe, he had such a sweet smile :'(
Roberto Orci Meeting With CBS For New STAR TREK TV Show
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/starkstuff/news/?a=88409#H6b1drLkK06uYcGA.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/starkstuff/news/?a=88409#H6b1drLkK06uYcGA.99)
I would be very OK with this :)
Interesting. Personally, I'd like to see a show return to the original timeline, see more movies in the alternate one.
On another note, I really think the thread should be retitled "Just Trek."
I actually pitched a concept idea for a new 'Trek'-based TV show to someone who's involved with the franchise-owners, last week. By complete accident, mind you. Had no idea that they know the right people, at the time.
Have doubts it'll actually go anywhere, but, heh, that makes this news kind of oddly interesting.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Oct 12, 2013, 06:06:23 PM
On another note, I really think the thread should be retitled "Just Trek."
I wouldn't object :D
And as far as the show's placement, if it ever even happens, I would personally be fine with either timeline. Either way we'd most likely be getting a new crew and ship. Though moving a show back to the original timeline would probably give us more room to move forward without having to retread on old ground, so that'd be good.
Into Darkness just dropped the Klingon subplot... I'd have preferred a bittersweet 'Empire' ending where a war was definitely on the horizon, instead everything's back to normal.
Spoiler
Honestly, I wish they had the balls to keep Kirk dead.
Kirk can't die, he's the freaking captain.
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That was in a different series in which Kirk wasn't at the centre of it.
Btw, http://screenrant.com/new-star-trek-tv-show-roberto-orci/ (http://screenrant.com/new-star-trek-tv-show-roberto-orci/) New Star Trek series may be on the way.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 12, 2013, 02:25:51 PM
Roberto Orci Meeting With CBS For New STAR TREK TV Show
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/starkstuff/news/?a=88409#H6b1drLkK06uYcGA.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/starkstuff/news/?a=88409#H6b1drLkK06uYcGA.99)
I would be very OK with this :)
Heh, missed that. In any event, I hope it's a return to form with a likable captain, unlike the arsehole that was Captain Archer. Though I guess it should be Scott Bakula I take issue with but in any event...
Joe Cornish will direct Star Trek 3:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish)
Still miss Abrams, bit I'm glad this is going ahead. Looking forward to seeing it :)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 05, 2013, 09:42:27 PMStill miss Abrams, bit I'm glad this is going ahead. Looking forward to seeing it :)
I hope the same thing about The Hobbit and X-Men:DoFP happen: Star Wars sequels will be in a development hell with multiple delays, Abrams will be forced to resign and will come back to return Star Trek 3 XD
Quote from: Magegg on Nov 05, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
Joe Cornish will direct Star Trek 3:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish)
Ah...
Quote from: Magegg on Nov 05, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
Joe Cornish will direct Star Trek 3:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish)
:(
Ah well.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 12, 2013, 02:25:51 PM
Roberto Orci Meeting With CBS For New STAR TREK TV Show
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/starkstuff/news/?a=88409#H6b1drLkK06uYcGA.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/starkstuff/news/?a=88409#H6b1drLkK06uYcGA.99)
I would be very OK with this :)
Of all the attempts to remake the original tv series, the show will never be as good without Shatner and crew. The original series was gold.
Quote from: Magegg on Nov 05, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
Joe Cornish will direct Star Trek 3:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/04/star-trek-3-star-wars-jj-abrams-joe-cornish)
Not terribly impressed. Tintin was a great movie sure but it wasn't big-budget sci-fi material.
Why would his previous efforts have to be big-budget sci-fi? I haven't seen Tintin myself, but if the guy can make a good movie than he can make a good movie. Genre should be irrelevant.
It is not so much of an issue with genre as it is a matter of can Joe Cornish tackle a mega budget space opera epic with a scope and style consistent with the previous two reboot films. Can he manage directing such a large crew cast and will he be able to collaborate with the production crew effectively enough to make a solid star trek film. He only directed a small ensemble genre film on a tight budget. It was competantly handled but that's not enough to go on.
I wouldn't mind seeing the third Trek film reel in the scope a little bit, actually.
We'll see how this goes.
The only film Abrams had directed before his first Trek was Mission: Impossible III a good enough sequel that looked far better than it was because the last film was so shit.
Between Rupert Wyatt (Rise of the POTA) and Joe Cornish (Attack the Block) I wouldn't mind either directing. It just needs to be more focused than Into Darkness, which I didn't dislike, but after the 2009 film, which was the adrenaline shot to the heart the series needed, I hope they introduce new ideas over referencing past ones.
I don't know if it's been discussed yet or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if the third film has more Klingons in it. I expect it will be about the Khitomer Massacre.
Three Writers Beamed Up For STAR TREK 3; 2016 Release Date Expected
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=91122#p8D7iPk2SLqHsHB7.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=91122#p8D7iPk2SLqHsHB7.99)
Joe Cornish No Longer In The STAR TREK 3 Director Mix
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=91251#iJqt6MVvmCiHSWiE.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=91251#iJqt6MVvmCiHSWiE.99)
Abrams is returning as the executive producer on this one, right?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 09, 2013, 07:27:48 PM
Joe Cornish No Longer In The STAR TREK 3 Director Mix
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=91251#iJqt6MVvmCiHSWiE.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=91251#iJqt6MVvmCiHSWiE.99)
[Silently]
Thank you...
Booooooo.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 10, 2013, 02:45:20 PM
Abrams is returning as the executive producer on this one, right?
Yes.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws)
Perfection.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws)
I had no idea he was in
The Undiscovered Country until I re-watched it. :laugh:
Prune juice.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws)
I had no idea he was in The Undiscovered Country until I re-watched it. :laugh:
Actually, that were Worf's grandaddy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws)
As long as there's a scene with Worf snorting coke, I'm in.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 06, 2014, 12:35:17 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sUtXAl24o#ws)
As long as there's a scene with Worf snorting coke, I'm in.
Coke and Quaaludes are practically required.
Always laugh at that line.
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That's kind of amazing :D
Ripoff of Yoda and the Clonetroopers dancing.
Quote from: Vermillion on Mar 24, 2014, 03:24:40 PM
Ripoff of Yoda and the Clonetroopers dancing.
That was a bunch of cgi characters animated as a parody of sorts. If anything this is a 'ripoff' of the Predators dancing on the set of P2.
Yup. Ripoff
Who cares.
It's amaze.
I'm diggin it. I think most movies should do something like this as a tradition thing rather than let it be a rip off. Besides, they look like they're having fun 8)
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Extra points for Zoe Saldana. :-*
Happy First Contact day! :P
Last good trek Day.
First Contact is very overrated, I think.
Haven't seen the film yet, but I was actually referencing this (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/First_Contact_Day) :)
I know. Only 49 years to go!
Can't wait to get my very own spaceship!
Just make sure that it's one - unlike the Phoenix - that seems capable of landing again...
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That is f**king terrifying.
that is f**king amazing.
oh, here's a more complete version of it. If there are other ones, I've not seen them.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7080186880/h81C1FC6E/)
What the hell is wrong with Sulu? Why does McCoy look like a chimp?
McCoy I can buy - but yeah - dafuq is up with Sulu? They forgot the Fu Manchu mustache and pointy hat...
They way overdid the yellow on Sulu. Yellow peril, indeed.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 07, 2014, 12:12:06 AM
What the hell is wrong with Sulu? Why does McCoy look like a chimp?
They resemble Pixar characters, McCoy's faced is based off that boss twit from The Incredibles.
Sulu's grin looks like an evil Nike logo. Spock and Scotty are just generally offputting.
Nailed Chekov, though.
I don't recall Spock's schnoz being that overbearing.
There were many places I could have posted this, but...
Alex Kurtzman & Roberto Orci Splitting Up on Bigscreen
http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/alex-kurtzman-roberto-orci-splitting-up-on-big-screen-exclusive-1201160542/ (http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/alex-kurtzman-roberto-orci-splitting-up-on-big-screen-exclusive-1201160542/)
Here's what they have to say about Trek:
QuoteOrci is currently laser focused on the upcoming "Star Trek 3." He's already been tapped to pen the picture along with Patrick McKay and John D. Payne, and he's lobbying heavily to direct the production. The film's co-producers, J.J. Abrams' Bad Robot and David Ellison's Skydance, appear to be in favor of Orci helming the film, but people familiar with the situation say that Paramount is being cautious. If Orci lands the assignment, "Star Trek 3" would mark his directorial debut.
Roberto Orci Frontrunner To Helm 'Star Trek 3′
http://www.deadline.com/2014/05/roberto-orci-frontrunner-to-helm-star-trek-3/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.deadline.com/2014/05/roberto-orci-frontrunner-to-helm-star-trek-3/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Wouldn't complain.
....what kind of f**king credential does he have as a helmer to direct a big budget feature? :P He's a mediocre screenwriter at his best.
Everyone's got to start somewhere.
Can't say I cared for what he did with the TASM or Transformers films, but I do immensely enjoy both Treks.
Even if he started out writing big movies he should have at least started out directing a small project to see if he had the chops to take on a huge blockbuster. Skipping straight to something like this doesn't bode well.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-tv-shows-you-loved-that-were-nightmare-behind-scenes/ (http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-tv-shows-you-loved-that-were-nightmare-behind-scenes/)
Point #4.
It's official. Orci is directing.
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/roberto-orci-to-direct-star-trek-3-1201180140/ (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/roberto-orci-to-direct-star-trek-3-1201180140/)
I'm very willing to give him a chance.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2014, 03:19:01 AM
It's official. Orci is directing.
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/roberto-orci-to-direct-star-trek-3-1201180140/ (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/roberto-orci-to-direct-star-trek-3-1201180140/)
I'm very willing to give him a chance.
*Googles the director's filmography and associated works*
Yep.
R.I.P. Star Trek 3
I know the other 2 films didn't have much substance to them and actually anger me when I consider certain plot points but I like the style and felt the character moments were all good so I'll just go watch Trek 3 in the hopes it doesn't anger me, the Enterprise doesn't get near enough blown up (again) and the character beats are good.
:-\
The creepy 9/11 conspiracy theorist turned hack screenwriter turned major blockbuster movie director who could.
Good job, Hollywood.
Eww. This guy can f**k off.
Eh... He cowrote the first two. I'm willing to give him a chance.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Eh... He cowrote the first two. I'm willing to give him a chance.
Same.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 14, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Eh... He cowrote the first two. I'm willing to give him a chance.
Same.
Same here. I just fear this might be a bit too much for him.
SO MANY talented PEOPLE who would kill at the chance of directing a Star Trek film....
And Bob Orci gets the job! :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_t2fFF3B0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_t2fFF3B0#)
Mah nigga.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 14, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Eh... He cowrote the first two. I'm willing to give him a chance.
I'm going to wait until you guys see it, and give your reviews. Raves I'll see it at the theater, boo's and I'll save my cash and wait for it on Amazon Prime :D
Finally watched Into Darkness. Dug it up till the bit where they blew up Khan's ship.
They suddenly just lose power and start falling to Earth - from the moon? Then they do this awful forgery of Wrath of Khan.
Overall - decent, but let down badly by its climax.
It was weird. Even though Kirk's death ultimately meant nothing because he's revived, I still cried pretty intensely during that scene. I think I'm more attached to these characters than I realize. I wonder if they revived him only because they don't want to completely rip-off the previous films.
I tear up on Wrath Of Khan, every time, after countless viewings since 1982.
The cringe inducing awfulness of Kirk's death, was capped off by Spocks laugh out loud "KHAAANNN!!!!"
It might work better for people not familiar with the source material - but that source material hit every beat perfectly, the performances were flawless, and it was an awesome pay off for everything that came before. This time it was, as I said, a forgery.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 30, 2014, 11:00:38 AM
It was weird. Even though Kirk's death ultimately meant nothing because he's revived, I still cried pretty intensely during that scene. I think I'm more attached to these characters than I realize. I wonder if they revived him only because they don't want to completely rip-off the previous films.
They revived Kirk because: SEQUEL.
Problem was they flagged his resurrection way too early. Think I would've preferred that they left him dead, or on some kind of cliffhanger to be brought back in the next film - even though that might to too close to copying the original 2 and 3.
Quote from: SM on Jun 30, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
Problem was they flagged his resurrection way too early.
Not to mention they did it in the clumsiest way possible.
Kirk and Khan having intense face-off...Kirk turns to Bones and asks what he's doing with a Tribble (they evidently didn't have to wait for Cyrano Jones in this timeline) to which he gets, "I'm injecting it with magic blood to see what happens to dead stuff." (More or less.) No one could have predicted what would happen! NOBODY!!
Quote from: SM on Jun 29, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
Finally watched Into Darkness. Dug it up till the bit where they blew up Khan's ship.
They suddenly just lose power and start falling to Earth - from the moon? Then they do this awful forgery of Wrath of Khan.
Overall - decent, but let down badly by its climax.
I do wonder what you'll think of it soon. The plotholes* should be multiplying nicely in your mind any time now.
*Do they count as holes if the whole plot doesn't actually string together?
Quote from: SM on Jun 30, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
I tear up on Wrath Of Khan, every time, after countless viewings since 1982.
Probably haven't seen the film as much as you have -- but the reaction is the same!
QuoteI do wonder what you'll think of it soon. The plotholes* should be multiplying nicely in your mind any time now.
I haven't given it a great deal of thought beyond the end.
Except - not quite sure what the point of Khan putting his minions in the torpedoes was.
And funnily enough, being completely unaware of the controversy, the First Lady did a massive WTF? at Carol Marcus' knickers. I, being aware of the controversy, laughed heartily. Complete and utter lack of professionalism all round in Starfleet. "Oh, I know your reputation as a f**k machine Kirk, 'cos you f**ked my friend Nurse Easter Egg - but I'm going to strip down to my space undies right behind you and trust you not to look, and then act all coy and pretend to be angry when you do."
I teared up at
both scenes. I was more annoyed at how the dialogue was almost entirely verbatim from Wrath of Khan than anything. And let's be honest, at least it was better than Nimoy himself quoting the movie in god damn Transformers 3.
Quote from: SM on Jul 01, 2014, 05:00:09 AM
Except - not quite sure what the point of Khan putting his minions in the torpedoes was.
He was trying to smuggle them out the only way available to him.
Ehhh - didn't really buy it. Did Admiral Robocop know they were in the torpedoes?
QuoteAnd let's be honest, at least it was better than Nimoy himself quoting the movie in god damn Transformers 3.
Think I need to go watch Transformers 3 again.
Quote from: SM on Jul 01, 2014, 05:03:37 AM
Ehhh - didn't really buy it. Did Admiral Robocop know they were in the torpedoes?
I don't think so... it's been a while. That was one of the things I remember being a little iffy about to begin with.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 01, 2014, 05:01:35 AM
He was trying to smuggle them out the only way available to him.
So the real question is, why the hell did Marcus give them to Kirk and tell him to shoot them all at Qo'noS? I'd love to hear someone explain the logic of that.
Quote from: SM on Jun 30, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
I tear up on Wrath Of Khan, every time, after countless viewings since 1982.
The cringe inducing awfulness of Kirk's death, was capped off by Spocks laugh out loud "KHAAANNN!!!!"
It might work better for people not familiar with the source material - but that source material hit every beat perfectly, the performances were flawless, and it was an awesome pay off for everything that came before. This time it was, as I said, a forgery.
ST 2 gets me as well in the feelz department. I'll admit Spock's scream was kinda meh. Hell, I preferred the "parody" (so to speak) of it in the first movie when Nero yells, "SPOOOOOCK!!"
Quote from: SM on Jun 30, 2014, 11:00:38 PMeven though that might to too close to copying the original 2 and 3.
There's the problem. It's been done enough with Into Darkness, this business of repeating the older films. I want something new. A film about the Khitomer Massacre would be good. Not like in ST VI, which was about Accords, that is.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Jul 01, 2014, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 01, 2014, 05:01:35 AM
He was trying to smuggle them out the only way available to him.
So the real question is, why the hell did Marcus give them to Kirk and tell him to shoot them all at Qo'noS? I'd love to hear someone explain the logic of that.
Was Praxis already destroyed when they got to Qo'nos? Looked like a lot of debris in orbit.
It was. Although they spelt it differently for some reason. (Praxxis.)
That rascally Nero. Meddling with timelines, causing spelling mistakes and making Klingons look different.
Bit of a precedent within the series about that last one, to be fair.
Yeah but what's the reasoning this time? It's not down to lack of decent makeup effects in the 60s. Did Nero's interference really somehow make Klingons look different? It was interesting that the events of the first nuTrek lead to Admiral Robocop searching for weapons to aid against a similar threat to Nero and he found Khan in the process. But how much affect did he have overall? Has the potential to get rather ridiculous.
I didn't really mind the Klingons. We only saw the face of one and he had forehead ridges and a nose appliance and funky teeth. He was bald, but so was General Chang. And the rest of the STID Klingons had long hair and/or beards sticking out from under their helmets, so...
Apart from the piercings, how are they different from what we've seen before?
(I do love JJ's simplistic approach to things though. Romulans get tattoos, Klingons get piercings...which species will ne next to sport a body-mod?)
Yeah, I agree with Antman. Was just a Klingon who looked different to other Klingons we've seen.
Yeah but the whole look of the ridges was different. More streamlined and stylised than what we've seen since 1979. I thought it was a great idea when they came out of the ship with the helmets on, and they were going to leave the reveal for a future film when klingons are the main baddie.
It was underwhelming when the helmets came off.
Quote from: SM on Jul 02, 2014, 04:25:07 AM
Yeah but the whole look of the ridges was different. More streamlined and stylised than what we've seen since 1979.
But ridges have varied wildly throughout that time.
The '79 Klingons all had identical "extended spine" ridges.
Kruge (the standard upon which all 24th century Klingons seem to be based in one way or another) had toned down ridges but "hard sides" to his look.
Chang had extremely minor ridges, with a raised smaller section in the middle.
Lt. Worf's ridges changed over the course of ten years so there's no one "true" look to him.
Gowron had that whole "face labia" thing going on.
The STID Klingon actually reminded me of General Worf from ST6, with his very smoothed-out ridges. I think if he weren't bald most people wouldn't have even thought about it.
Yeah but all the different looks could be attributed to different races of klingon the same way Europeans, South Asians, East Asians, Africans etc have different features.
The 'smoothed out' look as you aptly described it - looked a bit too constructed rather than natural.
Seems like they all are different subtypes of Klingons then.
Guess so. The klingons were only really a minor issue though.
That's right...STID had more than enough actual problems to worry about. :)
Quote from: SM on Jun 30, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
This time it was, as I said, a forgery.
I'm sorry...I've just got to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs#)
On the topic of the new Star Treks...I love nearly everything in the art design. I love the new ship asthetics, I love the new warp effects, the new Klingon designs and etc. I have absolutely no issues there. I think the cast are great. The character beats in the films are just perfect.
But the f**king stories...my buddy at work loves to get me going about the f**king writing. It's just so lazy and stupid. Kirk being allowed to keep the Enterprise despite not passing the Academy. Hiding the f**king Enterprise under water? Klingon homeworld and back in less than 1 day. The whole f**king thing around Khan and those torpedoes. argh. Words alone cannot express the emotions I feel when I try to think about these films in terms of their story. They make some of the older TOS stories look like masterpieces.
Nothing in the new films reaches the levels of idiocy found in The Omega Glory. :P
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 13, 2014, 09:47:59 AM
They make some of the older TOS stories look like masterpieces.
A lot of those
were masterpieces, I'd say.
New JJ Trek sucks.
YouTube Star Trek Phase II is better.
I'll take JJ Trek over a lot of old Trek, like the depressingly dull early days of TNG, or Enterprise, or Voyager, or Generations, or Insurrection, or... you get the point.
JJ's trek is now referred to as TINO
Trek in name only.
Oh, f**k off with that. It's as much in the spirit of Trek as Wrath of Khan or First Contact.
Well, I guess I didn't get the point across... there's The Motionless Picture, The Final Frontier, Spock's Brain, The Omega Glory, that TNG ep where they turned into animals...
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 13, 2014, 06:31:21 PM
Well, I guess I didn't get the point across... there's The Motionless Picture, The Final Frontier, Spock's Brain, The Omega Glory, that TNG ep where they turned into animals...
Genesis. I thought that was one of their best. No joke.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 13, 2014, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 13, 2014, 06:31:21 PM
Well, I guess I didn't get the point across... there's The Motionless Picture, The Final Frontier, Spock's Brain, The Omega Glory, that TNG ep where they turned into animals...
Genesis. I thought that was one of their best. No joke.
Okay, substitute that with the Planet of the Black People episode... :laugh:
The what now?
Early in Season One Picard and crew visited a planet full of African stereotypes. They tried to steal Tasha Tar... Yeah.
Oh geez, that's super old. I barely remember that one. Well, not every show starts out strong, lol.
Especially latter day Trek. They all took at least a whole season to get on track, and some f them didn't get that far, depending on who you ask. :laugh:
Despite my reservations about aspects of INto Darkness - I'll take that and the other JJ flick over Insurrection or Nemesis. Or a lot of Next Gen dull politically correct niceness.
Why did people dislike Nemesis so much? I thought it was decent.
Another forgery of Wrath Of Khan.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 13, 2014, 10:49:57 PM
Why did people dislike Nemesis so much? I thought it was decent.
Because of the unintentional hilarity:
http://stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Pictorial.html (http://stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Pictorial.html)
Quote from: SM on Jul 13, 2014, 11:25:09 PM
Another forgery of Wrath Of Khan.
I picked up on that but I didn't mind it that much. I guessed I just really liked the Scimitar design.
It doesn't help that the movie effectively torpedoed Tom Hardy's career for years.
He was in 21 films in the 10 years between Nemesis and Batman...
Ssh! You're ruining stuff with facts! ;)
And that doesn't include TV stuff.
Teh interwebz givethz and teh interwebz tek awayz.
They're all products of a different time and culture. Trek, in general, takes to season 3 to get going. And I stand by that. Even Enterprise. I loved S3 and S4 of Enterprise. TNG is love it or leave it. Some episodes I skip, some I watch. But I only own S3 onwards. I prefer Babylon 5 over TNG but I just prefer that arc based nature of storytelling.
As for Nemesis...I like the battle stuff in that. Pretty much that's all. I can watch it to see some ships blow each up if I don't wanna pay too much attention. I do hate B4.
That whole B4 thing and the Mad Max rip off seemed completely pointless.
I can watch bits of the TV shows. If I stumble over Best Of Both Worlds on TV I'll always watch it for example. I think the most I watched of any series was Voyager. And even then it wasn't required viewing. But Janeway seemed to a bit more 'tude that Picard often lacked. Voyager could've benefited from having more series spanning arcs with the characters. They just don't seem that different at the end of the first episode to the end of the last episode.
Quote from: SM on Jul 14, 2014, 08:39:20 AM
I think the most I watched of any series was Voyager.
And just when I thought we could be friends. Fuh.
Voyager was a fresh start I felt because it dealt with uncharted territory (Delta quadrant). Viewers had a rough idea of what to expect sure, given the Star Trek name, but it was wholly new material. My fav series though is TOS.
Problem with Voyager was it was essentially TNG in its storytelling.
Enterprise. Mirror Mirror arc.
Awesome
Indeed. S4 had some wonderful mini-arcs.
Shame the last episode was a pile of crap.
The final scene of the three Enterprises and the three Captain VoiceOver was nice.
Actually better that the last TNG scene.
Why was it better? TNG ended as it's own thing, and in a nice little character moment that featured all the main characters.
ENT ended with a focus on characters from another show. Even the very last space shot, ENT is only a third of the scene.
For me, the finale of ENT was Terra Prime. That other thing after it was just some weird "What If?" fan-fic.
Could never get into Enterprise. That excrutiating opening music was hard to get past.
I can't stand Scott Bakula. That guy has his head up his ass. He once said in an interview on TV that no ST captain has ever bled before, that he was the first, and was the toughest one yet. I couldn't control my laughter.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 16, 2014, 11:40:25 AM
I can't stand Scott Bakula. That guy has his head up his ass. He once said in an interview on TV that no ST captain has ever bled before, that he was the first, and was the toughest one yet. I couldn't control my laughter.
You've said that before, but I do wonder if you're misremembering. Bakula was reportedly annoyed when filming the ENT pilot when one of the producers told him that "...Star Trek Captain's don't bleed."
If Bakula did repeat/distort that asinine claim, perhaps his mistake was taking that producer seriously?
Could be, sure. In any event, it put me off Enterprise.
I like Bakula myself.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 16, 2014, 11:40:25 AM
I can't stand Scott Bakula. That guy has his head up his ass. He once said in an interview on TV that no ST captain has ever bled before, that he was the first, and was the toughest one yet. I couldn't control my laughter.
I can't stand Bakula either, ruined the show for me. His character was the centre of everything, rammed down our throats he was. Yes he's the Captain so he's there's a lot of focus on him, but it was Kirk levels of focus but with Bakula instead of Shatner.
I always expected him to leap home.
First draft of the new script has been completed.
www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=106170 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=106170)
Still going to suck large
Can't shake the feeling that this will be the X-Men Last Stand of the new Trek movies.
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Aug 18, 2014, 05:29:57 PM
Can't shake the feeling that this will be the X-Men Last Stand of the new Trek movies.
That would require the first two to be good like the first two X-Men movies.
I'm hoping for it to be the Transformers 3 of the nuTrek movies. Not as good as the fun but idiotic first one, but slightly better than the tedious bullshit of the second one. :)
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Aug 18, 2014, 05:29:57 PM
Can't shake the feeling that this will be the X-Men Last Stand of the new Trek movies.
I don't think so. I really liked the first two so I have faith in this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA)
That's was awesome!
I'm sure it'll have gaping holes in it that wind me the f**k up. But as long as the character beats are all there and it continues to look cool as f**k, I'm game. I'm hoping for evenly matched space combat this time - sick of seeing the ship get curb-stomped every time. And no ridiculous fan-service this time.
I'm looking more forward to Axanar though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKQ_nbzO2o#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKQ_nbzO2o#ws)
Diet Wrath of Khan...works for me.
This been shared here yet?
http://www.treknews.net/2014/06/23/star-trek-the-compendium-details/ (http://www.treknews.net/2014/06/23/star-trek-the-compendium-details/)
The rebate is only available in the U.S. and from what I can tell, The Compendium doesn't have the film in 3D. dafuq
William Shatner Could Make Cameo In STAR TREK 3
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=108088#g045x43ISvvkFQqy.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=108088#g045x43ISvvkFQqy.99)
Interesting. They say it'll be 'plot-driven'. Hope it's not distracting like Nimoy's cameo in STID.
As long as the appearances mean something, I'll be happy.
I'm not entirely confident in how the new films are being handled. It'll look pretty and I'm sure I'll dig all the character interactions but these next one best have an actual script that is consistent and logical.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2014, 11:44:17 AM...but these next one best have an actual script that is consistent and logical.
It'll be a first for Orci if that happens. My confidence is loooow.
Shatner's Twitter:
QuoteI'm baaaaccckk!!!
So the cameo is official then eh? Not sure I'm thrilled.
Actually, turned out the Tweet was referring to him being back home. :D
Kirk.
I for one, would love to see Kirk again. Shatner-Kirk that is.
It's a bit sad though that they seemingly can't make the new films without constantly reminding us of the Shatner/Nimoy films. What was the point in telling us stories from these characters youths, if they end up essentially being tame remakes of the old films - which is essentially what Into Darkness was?
Well Nimoy-Spock was an integral part of story for Star Trek, so I didn't mind that. But yeah, his appearance in Into Darkness should have been scraped.
Lol, a tame remake that only has one or two characters and a scene in common. :P
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/10/07/rumor-william-shatners-captain-kirk-will-share-a-scene-with-chris-pine-in-star-trek-3 (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/10/07/rumor-william-shatners-captain-kirk-will-share-a-scene-with-chris-pine-in-star-trek-3)
...I can actually dig that.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 07, 2014, 11:27:09 PM
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/10/07/rumor-william-shatners-captain-kirk-will-share-a-scene-with-chris-pine-in-star-trek-3 (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/10/07/rumor-william-shatners-captain-kirk-will-share-a-scene-with-chris-pine-in-star-trek-3)
...I can actually dig that.
It works well enough for this sort of thing. As long as it's not downright embarrassing for the character like his appearance in Generations was, I'm down for it.
Quote from: Eva on Oct 07, 2014, 05:59:52 PM
It's a bit sad though that they seemingly can't make the new films without constantly reminding us of the Shatner/Nimoy films. What was the point in telling us stories from these characters youths, if they end up essentially being tame remakes of the old films - which is essentially what Into Darkness was?
Good point. It worked for the first film, I thought. The alternate universe thing worked well enough but it was very forced in Into Darkness. I'm skeptical about the third film.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 07, 2014, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 07, 2014, 11:27:09 PM
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/10/07/rumor-william-shatners-captain-kirk-will-share-a-scene-with-chris-pine-in-star-trek-3 (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/10/07/rumor-william-shatners-captain-kirk-will-share-a-scene-with-chris-pine-in-star-trek-3)
...I can actually dig that.
It works well enough for this sort of thing. As long as it's not downright embarrassing for the character like his appearance in Generations was, I'm down for it.
QuoteDon't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
Best line in the flick.
And the only thing memorable about that otherwise horrible film.
The Shat is back!
Bob Orci out of ST3. Edgar Wright is one the potential replacements.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/389701-breaking-bob-orci-removed-from-star-trek-3 (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/389701-breaking-bob-orci-removed-from-star-trek-3#/slide/1)
Edgar Wright Star Trek? Color me intrigued if that happens!
Suddenly I'm interested again.
It'd totally make up for the Ant-Man fiasco.
And I'm sure that, if this happens, Wright will only stick around if the script is to his liking, which is great.
Well my interest in this just skyrocketed.
Was already interested. Now somewhat more interested.
Edgar Wright and Star Trek is perfect for each other.
Simon Pegg is just icing on the cock.
Nick Frost as an alien villain please. :P
The villain is Q btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q00MkIGSPKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q00MkIGSPKg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi894.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac145%2FBekahR%2FGIFs%2520and%2520Macros%2FSpockSurprised.gif&hash=e15d99bfbfb72c9ea8a2a785c5fd565b3cad0acd)
Lol
Spock says "Wrong topic WTF"
Forget Sand People! Lie is a bad shot, Aimed for All Star Wars, hit All Star Trek. :D
Director shortlist includes Rupert Wyatt, Duncan Jones, Daniel Espinosa, Justin Lin, and Morten Tyldum.
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 15, 2014, 07:46:17 PM
Director shortlist includes Rupert Wyatt, Duncan Jones, Daniel Espinosa, Justin Lin, and Morten Tyldum.
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/)
Justin Lin....are they out of their cornfed minds!
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 15, 2014, 07:46:17 PM
Director shortlist includes Rupert Wyatt, Duncan Jones, Daniel Espinosa, Justin Lin, and Morten Tyldum.
...Err...you what? What kind of choice is that?
I can't see Duncan Jones doing it - as much as I'd love that.
Justin Lin has been doing a good job with the new F&F movies which have been getting good word of mouth, but he is not my choice for a Star Trek movie. Would Leonard Nimoy be too old to direct the movie?
Rupert Wyatt would be a very good choice, I think.
Quote from: orchidal on Dec 15, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 15, 2014, 07:46:17 PM
Director shortlist includes Rupert Wyatt, Duncan Jones, Daniel Espinosa, Justin Lin, and Morten Tyldum.
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/)
Justin Lin....are they out of their cornfed minds!
That's weird. ST has action, but it's not freaking Fast & Furious.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 16, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
Quote from: orchidal on Dec 15, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 15, 2014, 07:46:17 PM
Director shortlist includes Rupert Wyatt, Duncan Jones, Daniel Espinosa, Justin Lin, and Morten Tyldum.
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/)
Justin Lin....are they out of their cornfed minds!
That's weird. ST has action, but it's not freaking Fast & Furious.
Justin Lin has done more than just F&F though/ He has directed Community several times, and is directing Season 2 of True Detective, as well as a few non-action movies,
Quote from: AvatarIII on Dec 16, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 16, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
Quote from: orchidal on Dec 15, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 15, 2014, 07:46:17 PM
Director shortlist includes Rupert Wyatt, Duncan Jones, Daniel Espinosa, Justin Lin, and Morten Tyldum.
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-director-list-jones-lin/)
Justin Lin....are they out of their cornfed minds!
That's weird. ST has action, but it's not freaking Fast & Furious.
Justin Lin has done more than just F&F though/ He has directed Community several times, and is directing Season 2 of True Detective, as well as a few non-action movies,
Avatarlll, you make a good point...but I must say I'm more able to accept him helming TD because of his work on Better Luck Tomorrow. But Nu Star Trek has such an epic scope that I don't feel he's yet been tested enough to gain my confidence. It still can totally work though.
More lame news, Star Trek 3 may go down Guardians of the Galaxy route ::)
http://comicbook.com/2014/12/16/paramount-reportedly-wants-star-trek-3-to-feel-more-like-guardia/ (http://comicbook.com/2014/12/16/paramount-reportedly-wants-star-trek-3-to-feel-more-like-guardia/)
Hey here's an idea, why not make the next Star Trek film like say...Star Trek, or is that too stupid?
As if the last Star Trek Die Hard hybrid wasn't enough -_-
What... Buhh.... Why?
I don't see the problem with that personally. It just talks about making more use of the "creatures" ala aliens. Seems pretty Star Trek to me. Probably just means it'll be more alien aliens.
I hope so, not that the aliens in GOTG were particularly interesting, most were just blue or green or had hair in funny places. Groot and the Nathan Fillion alien were the only stand out "alien" aliens
How about making Star Trek more like Star Trek. :P
Why they want to sacrifice the franchises identity is beyond me.
I don't understand how using aliens is losing the series identity.
Basically they want a GofG movie but obviously they can't have that. So instead they're gonna mess with and destroy another space franchise to get what they want...whether anyone wants that or not.
I think it will go beyond simply using more aliens.
Not seeing it -
QuoteA new report claims that part of the reason behind the creative changes on Star Trek 3 is because Paramount Pictures is looking to emulate the character- and creature-driven, high-concept sci-fi adventure feel of James Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy film.
They want a character and create driven story? Sounds perfectly fine to me. Nothing that isn't Star Trek in there. They've always had non-humanoid aliens in the show. The Tholians and Species 8472 spring to mind. And in terms of being character driven, nothing inherently non-Trek about that either.
Still not seeing the issue that any of that would non-Trek.
And - I know, it's Wikipedia - the Wiki page defining high concept points at Trek:
QuoteHowever, it is important to differentiate a high-concept narrative from an analogous narrative. In the case of the latter, a high-concept story may be employed to allow commentary on an implicit subtext. A prime example of this might be George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, which asks, "What if we lived in a future of totalitarian government?" while simultaneously generating social comment and critique aimed at Orwell's own (real world) contemporary society. Similarly, the Gene Roddenberry sci-fi series Star Trek went beyond the high-concept storytelling of a futurist starship crew, by addressing 20th century social issues in a hypothetical and defamiliarising context.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-concept (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-concept)
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 17, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
More lame news, Star Trek 3 may go down Guardians of the Galaxy route ::)
http://comicbook.com/2014/12/16/paramount-reportedly-wants-star-trek-3-to-feel-more-like-guardia/ (http://comicbook.com/2014/12/16/paramount-reportedly-wants-star-trek-3-to-feel-more-like-guardia/)
Hey here's an idea, why not make the next Star Trek film like say...Star Trek, or is that too stupid?
As if the last Star Trek Die Hard hybrid wasn't enough -_-
Considering GotG had Star Trek-like vibes to it, I'm not seeing the issue.
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 17, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
As if the last Star Trek Die Hard hybrid wasn't enough -_-
Hey, you leave
Assault on Dome 4 alone!
Every time Hubbs makes that comparison, it just makes me think he's never actually seen Die Hard. :P
Which film does he mean?
No clue, but the Die Hard comparison makes no sense.
OK...the last Trek movie was basically a generic action movie in space. Die Hard of course is the classic forerunner of everything but even so it has all the generic action movie stuff in it (looking back).
:D
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 17, 2014, 07:35:30 PM
OK...the last Trek movie was basically a generic action movie in space. Die Hard of course is the classic forerunner of everything but even so it has all the generic action movie stuff in it (looking back).
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Show me where either of those movies are about a single man trapped in a location and dealing with multiple enemies.
I'm pretty sure Kirk isn't wearing shoes whenever he's in bed with an alien chick.
It's not a great film but it's certainly not Die Hard.
I don't mean literately ::)
The last Trek movie was a generic action flick that happened to be called Star Trek and used the same character names.
Me gustó Star Trek (2009), pero la segunda se me hizo aburrida ::) Al menos las películas pre-reboot de Star Trek me ofrecían algo más cerebral, esta nueva fue thriller genérico.
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 17, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
I don't mean literately ::)
The last Trek movie was a generic action flick that happened to be called Star Trek and used the same character names.
No it wasn't. It was Star Trek in a new direction.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 18, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 17, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
I don't mean literately ::)
The last Trek movie was a generic action flick that happened to be called Star Trek and used the same character names.
No it wasn't. It was Star Trek in a new direction.
That direction being generic sci-fi action. :P
Meh, I liked it. It's a Star Trek for a new age. If people are that buggered by it, you still have the older flicks.
I'm a fan of all Star Trek.
I really enjoyed Star Trek 09 (especially the opening, which ranks among the best pre title sequences in my opinion) but found Into Darkness underwhelming. I could forgive many of the story faults in ST09 because it had the impossible task of reintroducing so many characters and getting them all in the right place without making a ham of it, and it succeeds immensely in that regard. With the characters now firmly established once more, Into Darkness' story had to be good and it just didn't land. The action is great and dazzles the first few times round, but there's no depth to keep me coming back. Overall I think JJ Abrams did a great job with a bad script.
That said I have no problem with the new direction seeking to take cues from Guardians of the Galaxy's success. Star Trek has always been full of weird alien characters. If anything it could be a call back to Trek of the past.
I'm one of the few people who liked Into Darkness. The only thing that bugged me about it was the uselessness of Kirk's death. I'd be lying if I said I didn't bawl pretty intensely because I was so into it, but reviving him 15 minutes later was a buzzkill.
Storing their people in missiles, what?! You know what missiles are for?! What if someone unknowledgely just launched them and blew them up?! ::) ::) That was idiotic, who the f**k wrote that script?
http://m.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/12/its-time-for-star-trek-to-return-to-the-small-screen/383794/ (http://m.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/12/its-time-for-star-trek-to-return-to-the-small-screen/383794/)
STID was a stupid story. Full of stupid ideas - I will never get over hiding a SPACEship in the ocean. The only thing they got right were the character beats.
Fair points, but whatever. I didn't lose my shit over them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe7axuTmoUg#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe7axuTmoUg#ws)
Quote from: Xhan on Dec 18, 2014, 06:15:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe7axuTmoUg#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe7axuTmoUg#ws)
Holy crow, good find Xhan. Very powerful stuff :')
Wow. Incredible
Justin Lin is directing the 3rd one.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=112727 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=112727)
Eh, surely there must have been a better choice. :-\
Yeah, really not sure how to feel about this...
Best facebook reaction so far:
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Quote from: MudButt on Dec 23, 2014, 12:25:54 AM
Justin Lin is directing the 3rd one.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=112727 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=112727)
LOL!! Fast n Furious in space!! and here's me thinking the last movie was a generic action packed turd that couldn't get any worse! This is exactly how I thought the franchise might go but I never for one second thought it actually would, how ironic.
I actually really enjoyed the second movie. However, I agree the choice of director is a bit meh, he's a good action director but I feel like they could've got someone much better.
Couldn't get any worse? A good hefty chunk of the movie series is worse, and with that many TV episodes... yeah. :laugh:
Looking at his filmography the guy has done nothing of any worth...unless you like the Fast and Furious franchise. That's not really the best influence for a Star Trek movie.
And he's still a better director than Shatner. :P
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 23, 2014, 04:46:50 AM
And he's still a better director than Shatner. :P
What does God need with a racecar?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 04:59:05 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 23, 2014, 04:46:50 AM
And he's still a better director than Shatner. :P
What does God need with a racecar?
We'll find out when Dom reaches the Underverse. ;D
Swell. :-\ I'll watch how these one goes - but it's more the writing that concerns me than anything else.
Well, if the story Orci was rumored to be going with was avoided then I'm glad. Adding more time travel is the last thing the series needs.
I hadn't heard that was involved? The most I'd heard was it involved the conflict with the Klingons.
The one rumor I'd heard was that the Vulcans were going to travel back in time to stop Nero from destroying Vulcan... and somehow Shatner would show up.
I hope that isn't the case. Those people shouldn't be allowed to write Trek.
I would like to see Sybok (and more Klingons) but the remedial Spock/ Kirk Prime crap has got to stop. This is a parallel universe, take advantage of it. Into Darkness, while enjoyable, was a major step back from the possibilities the 09 film set up.
Sybok... eh... he'd need a major retool. Maybe the rock monster can be introduced along with him.
Lin can certainly rock the look and action, but he needs a good script. Other directors could bring raw power and passion to the project, regardless of the script they're working with. I wouldn't say he's bad a choice, just uninspired.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 23, 2014, 08:51:19 AM
The one rumor I'd heard was that the Vulcans were going to travel back in time to stop Nero from destroying Vulcan... and somehow Shatner would show up.
Oh geez. Look, I liked ID but that sounds like a bit much.
Hiring Lin got me thinking about other F&F directors. Besides the obvious, i.e. "Thank f**k it's not Rob Cohen," I was considering what James Wan could bring to the franchise. Imagine something like the Horta episode of TOS, but with a stronger horror bent.
They just need to get away from Earth. In fact, I don't want to see Earth at all in the next film.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
They just need to get away from Earth. In fact, I don't want to see Earth at all in the next film.
Is this the Thor thread now? :laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
They just need to get away from Earth. In fact, I don't want to see Earth at all in the next film.
...why? Where are they going to go, Xandar?
I just want to see them actually do something on their five year space journey... Discover new things. The last two movies dealt with attacks on earth, which were cool, but now I want to see the crew go off and explore new places and species.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I just want to see them actually do something on their five year space journey... Discover new things. The last two movies dealt with attacks on earth, which were cool, but now I want to see the crew go off and explore new places and species.
I concur. And I hope that's the case since they've actually set off on their five year mission at the end of STID.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I just want to see them actually do something on their five year space journey... Discover new things. The last two movies dealt with attacks on earth, which were cool, but now I want to see the crew go off and explore new places and species.
Maybe we'll see the Borg, who knows.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 23, 2014, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I just want to see them actually do something on their five year space journey... Discover new things. The last two movies dealt with attacks on earth, which were cool, but now I want to see the crew go off and explore new places and species.
Maybe we'll see the Borg, who knows.
Oh God no, let them be.
Why? What's wrong with the Borg?
They've been used a million times.
Not in the original series universe, they haven't.
If they could barely handle them in TNG, it would spell doom for the new timeline or further soften the Borg by having them beat them. No, the Borg are done. Leave them be. They've been explored and defanged enough.
Yeah, Voyager and Enterprise pissed on them enough already.
I'm not seeing the problem. First Contact treated them with tons of respect. They were defeated with smarts, not brute force.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 23, 2014, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I just want to see them actually do something on their five year space journey... Discover new things. The last two movies dealt with attacks on earth, which were cool, but now I want to see the crew go off and explore new places and species.
Maybe we'll see the Borg, who knows.
or maybe V'ger (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/V%27ger#Background_information)!
Quote from: AvatarIII on Dec 23, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 23, 2014, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 23, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I just want to see them actually do something on their five year space journey... Discover new things. The last two movies dealt with attacks on earth, which were cool, but now I want to see the crew go off and explore new places and species.
Maybe we'll see the Borg, who knows.
or maybe V'ger (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/V%27ger#Background_information)!
If you're asking for another Star Trek: TMP...I'm gonna slip you silly, boi.
TMP is my favorite Trek movie :P
Beeeeellllllaaaaayyyy tttthhhhhaaaatttt ooorrrddddeeerrrr
Said Decker. Lol
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2014, 01:41:08 AM
TMP is my favorite Trek movie :P
I didn't realize it was April Fools' Day already. :laugh:
LOL.
To be fair, Vger was interesting. It's the rest of the film that wasn't.
I'd actually like to see some proper theatrical combat with the Klingons like was originally planned. Or maybe make the TOS-era Romulans more prolific. Balance of Terror is my favourite episode.
The more I think about those classic old Trek movies with good old Kirk and co...the more I luv em'.
Or maybe even use folk like the Gorn or the Tholians.
I love the TMP-era films too. TUC and TWOK are my favourites.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 24, 2014, 03:57:49 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2014, 01:41:08 AM
TMP is my favorite Trek movie :P
I didn't realize it was April Fools' Day already. :laugh:
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 24, 2014, 09:29:53 AM
Or maybe even use folk like the Gorn or the Tholians.
I love the TMP-era films too. TUC and TWOK are my favourites.
TUC is the best Star Trek movie ever made. I don't think anything will top it, and yes that includes the piece of cinematic art that is WoK. I liked Wrath of Khan, but ST VI had a lot of emotion in its ending, sent the crew off perfectly, and featured what is in my opinion, the greatest space battle ever.
Am I the only one here who liked Into Darkness? I actually love that one. Great film.
Nope, I'm right there with you.
Quote from: Omegazilla on Dec 24, 2014, 07:31:17 PM
Am I the only one here who liked Into Darkness? I actually love that one. Great film.
I also thought it was a really great movie. I watch it pretty often.
Yeah, it was a really good movie with one or two flaws.
Yup, loved it as well. There are a few plot points that don't make much sense (mostly near the end of the film), but they don't really detract from my enjoyment of it.
Quote from: Omegazilla on Dec 24, 2014, 07:31:17 PM
Am I the only one here who liked Into Darkness? I actually love that one. Great film.
Loved it.
Total rip off of Wrath of Khan.
It's only roughly similar to Wrath of Khan. But yeah, they really should have changed up the one scene a bit more.
Most fans that I talked too, liked Into Darkness. Not every Star Trek out of there are purist. I know some fans who grew up watching the series in the 60's liked the newer movies.
Loved into darkness too! liked it more than the first one.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2014, 07:53:27 PM
Yup, loved it as well. There are a few plot points that don't make much sense (mostly near the end of the film), but they don't really detract from my enjoyment of it.
Yeah.
I liked star trek: into the darkness but it has tons of really pathetic flaws. However it is without question, to me, the worst remake of a movie I have ever seen. Wrath of Khan is just so much better than STID.
You just can't replace Ricardo Montalban.
Like remaking Star Wars and changing Vader to Cumberbatch.
He's good and evil looking and all but.....
It's just wrong. And studios should know better.
Well, being a dogmatic fanboy doesn't help.
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How I currently feel. xD
Anyone want to count the reason why the Star Trek reboot movies are not Star Trek movies?
Probably because they aren't heavy on socio-political commentary.
And the movies that were heavy on the commentary almost all sucked.
New Star Trek vs. Old Star Trek Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2tItOIRag# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2tItOIRag#)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 26, 2014, 05:13:06 PM
And the movies that were heavy on the commentary almost all sucked.
Save the whales!
I was thinking of Insurrection, but touche, Nightmare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4#ws)
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 26, 2014, 11:29:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4#ws)
One of their most accurate :)
I'm currently watching the very first and best Star Trek series with the classic crew :)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 26, 2014, 07:40:31 PM
I was thinking of Insurrection, but touche, Nightmare.
The Voyage Home is fantastic! Aside from TMP and Final Frontier, all the original movies are great. I really prefer the dynamic of that crew in the films rather than the show.
Oh, Voyage Home is awesome. "Double dumbass on you!" :laugh:
TMP was the most Star Trekkie movie of them all. It's not any more boring than 2001 was... though you did have to think a bit to make it work.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2014, 01:41:08 AM
TMP is my favorite Trek movie :P
TMP was visually stunning and V'ger was an interesting concept, it was pretty boring though. it was like a normal length episode worth on content stretched out into 2 and a half hours.
However I brought up V'ger because V'ger is canon and should exist in the ST Universe. if V'Ger was introduced in the new movies, they could do something more interesting with it.
Quote from: Sozin on Dec 26, 2014, 05:28:42 PM
New Star Trek vs. Old Star Trek Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2tItOIRag# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2tItOIRag#)
Aw come on lol, I like watching them both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Lr8cdZwHQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Lr8cdZwHQ#)
RedLetterMedia's review of First Contact. If thought CinemaSins was all about nitpicking, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
http://trekmovie.com/2015/01/21/breaking-simon-pegg-to-co-write-star-trek-3-with-doug-jung/ (http://trekmovie.com/2015/01/21/breaking-simon-pegg-to-co-write-star-trek-3-with-doug-jung/)
I'm happy about this! Maybe this time the plot will hold up to scrutiny.
Hm. Has he ever written major projects before?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 22, 2015, 04:45:13 PM
Hm. Has he ever written major projects before?
He co-wrote the Corenetto Trilogy with Edgar Wright. (Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, At Worlds End)
http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2015/01/20/star-trek-3-begins-filming-in-vancouver-on-april-15/ (http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2015/01/20/star-trek-3-begins-filming-in-vancouver-on-april-15/)
And filming starts soon as well.
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 22, 2015, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 22, 2015, 04:45:13 PM
Hm. Has he ever written major projects before?
He co-wrote the Corenetto Trilogy with Edgar Wright. (Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, At Worlds End)
And Paul, and Run Fatboy Run. as well as pretty much all the TV stuff he did before going into movies.
Ah, true. Well-then, consider me interested.
Casting for Star Trek 3 has been pretty mum, with the majority of the latest talk centered around who is working on the movie behind the scenes. We've been hearing news about Fast and Furious director Justin Lin taking the project's helm, and Simon Pegg co-writing the script, but now a new bit of casting rumor has come to us from the folks at Film Divider. The site states that the Enterprise crew will be going up against a major new villain in the sequel, and while details are still a mystery, Cranston has reportedly "had words with the studio" about the role, which makes sense since Paramount allegedly wants the villain to be "Bryan Cranston-like."
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Trek-3-Could-Add-Bryan-Cranston-Most-Epic-Villain-Ever-69544.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Trek-3-Could-Add-Bryan-Cranston-Most-Epic-Villain-Ever-69544.html)
Please let him be an entirely new character.
He'll invent the Heisenberg Capacitor. ;D
I can dig that casting. I would also like to see some new characters emerge. Let's see this new AU go off in its own direction.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 03, 2015, 12:44:53 AM
Please let him be an entirely new character.
He'll be creating space-meth.
I'd completely forgot he'd done space opera before. He was in Babylon 5 as a Ranger IIRC.
R.I.P. Mr. Spock....Live long and Prosper :'(
Quote from: walker31 on Feb 27, 2015, 05:27:41 PM
R.I.P. Mr. Spock....Live long and Prosper :'(
:'(
That's so sad, although I wasn't a Star Trek fan, I really liked his inclusion in the reboot films. He will be missed.
R.I.P Nimoy.
I'm really upset to hear about the news. :( RIP.
R.I.P. Nimoy. Oh my God, I'm going to cry :'(
It was a difficult time for him, health-wise. They had said he recovered, so I half did not expect this. Rest in Peace, Leonard Nimoy. :(
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/27/arts/television/leonard-nimoy-spock-of-star-trek-dies-at-83.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/27/arts/television/leonard-nimoy-spock-of-star-trek-dies-at-83.html)
Idris Elba eyed for the villain role in Star Trek 3 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=117198)
I would love that, he's a bad ass. 8)
Figures he'd be playing a Klingon, lol.
KINGSMAN Actress Sofia Boutella Lands A Lead Role In STAR TREK 3
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=118467 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=118467)
http://trekmovie.com/2015/04/21/breaking-star-trek-xiii-to-be-titled-star-trek-beyond/ (http://trekmovie.com/2015/04/21/breaking-star-trek-xiii-to-be-titled-star-trek-beyond/)
Title is Star Trek Beyond. Ey. :-\
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 25, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Idris Elba eyed for the villain role in Star Trek 3 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=117198)
I would love that, he's a bad ass. 8)
This was apparently debunked.
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/22/simon-pegg-confirms-idris-elba-will-play-a-kickass-new-character-in-star-trek-3/ (http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/22/simon-pegg-confirms-idris-elba-will-play-a-kickass-new-character-in-star-trek-3/)
Not as debunked as I thought.
And we're all happy about that 8)
Making Star Trek 3 less like Star Trek!! The last movie was bad enough sheesh!
http://comicbook.com/2015/05/20/paramount-wants-star-trek-3-to-be-less-star-trek-y/
Yeah - I'm not too happy with that mentality. :-\
I didn't even enjoy the last movie, I don't know if I'll give a chance to this one.
I've really liked the cast and the asthetics of the last films. They just feel like bad stories.
I hate remakes of reboots.
Doesn't sound good to me. First two movies are fantastic -- their own take on the ST series. More action, camera movement, etc. but I wonder what will they excise to make the new movie less Star Trek-y?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 21, 2015, 05:18:44 PM
I've really liked the cast and the asthetics of the last films. They just feel like bad stories.
I think the first one was pretty good.
It was an inventive way to reboot it but the main drive of the story doesn't hold up to scrutiny, IMHO. That being Kirk's progression to Captain.
Character beats in both films are fantastic though.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 25, 2015, 02:26:31 PM
Character beats in both films are fantastic though.
Some of them.
http://screenrant.com/captain-worf-star-trek-tv-show-michael-dorn-interview/ (http://screenrant.com/captain-worf-star-trek-tv-show-michael-dorn-interview/)
Sorry Dorn, I don't want to see a show about the guy who always got his ass kicked.
I'd prefer it not be a Worf show, but I'll still take Trek on TV in any form over the last two movies.
Not even kidding, I want a TV show with the new cast. I just love their chemistry.
Just lose the hospital room bridge and lens flares
I like the new aesthetic. Looks really nice.
But yeah, I'd love a new TV show. I miss having regular sci-fi on my TV.
Apparently Abrams has been pushing for a new TV show ever since he made his first movie, but Paramount keeps refusing.
Any idea why?
I'm not sure, myself.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 02, 2015, 07:32:44 AM
Apparently Abrams has been pushing for a new TV show ever since he made his first movie, but Paramount keeps refusing.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 02, 2015, 05:20:22 PM
Any idea why?
Paramount aren't able to make Trek for TV. CBS holds the Trek license across all media except for theatrical productions.
I also recall concern over oversaturation. One of the things they attributed to the declining ratings of Enterprise was franchise fatigue. They had a show on constantly, new film out every few years. I recall reading that they didn't want a repeat situation.
I didn't know that. I just found Enterprise very boring.
It picked up in Season 3 and then truly founds its way in Season 4.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 03, 2015, 12:24:11 PM
It picked up in Season 3 and then truly founds its way in Season 4.
I agree.
The mirror universe was truly awesome
Indeed. That last season with all those multi-arcs bringing it more towards TOS were great. I was so disappointed we lost out on Season 5 as they were going to do the Romulan/Earth War.
Star Trek in general doesn't really find its feet until Season 3. Not very likely to be given that time anymore.
http://deadline.com/2015/06/justin-lin-star-trek-3-true-detective-hollywood-adventures-tcl-chinese-theater-1201437272/
I mostly agree with sentiments expressed about Enterprise here, except I got into it from the pilot. A massive improvement over the mostly unwatchable Voyager. The entire regular cast of that turkey had a charisma bypass.
I would not have been happy to see em do the Romulan war in Enterprise, that would have been a retcon too far.
The timeline worked out about right by Season 5, I believe.
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-trek/35940/star-trek-beyond-filming-finally-begins
Justin Lin @trailingjohnson
Let the next Starfleet voyage begin! #StarTrekBeyond #LLAP pic.twitter.com/VZh9YvJgqA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DId-VOJmkYs&feature
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/lydia-wilson-star-trek-beyond-1201572643/
Can't say I'm familiar with the actress.
set video
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=124241
Video has been removed. :'(
Like that new uniform though - I assume it's just away gear.
I LOVE STAR TREK INTO DARKNESSbut don't tell Corporal Hicks
Every time I think about that movie I want to cry.
Into Darkness was good and fun. The new ST films in general catch way too much flak. It's Star Trek for a new generation.
Read more (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Trek-Beyond-Just-Revealed-Mysterious-Alien-Official-Video-80177.html)
Looks like a bit of a stretch IMHO.
https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekContinues?fref=ts
New Star Trek Continues is online.
ScreenCrush
@screencrushnews
'Star Trek Beyond' announces the end of filming with new set photo: http://screencrush.com/star-trek-beyond-wraps-filming/ ...
http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017
QuoteCBS Television Studios announced today it will launch a totally new Star Trek television series in January 2017. The new series will blast off with a special preview broadcast on the CBS Television Network. The premiere episode and all subsequent first-run episodes will then be available exclusively in the United States on CBS All Access, the Network's digital subscription video on demand and live streaming service.
The next chapter of the Star Trek franchise will also be distributed concurrently for television and multiple platforms around the world by CBS Studios International.
The new program will be the first original series developed specifically for U.S. audiences for CBS All Access, a cross-platform streaming service that brings viewers thousands of episodes from CBS's current and past seasons on demand, plus the ability to stream their local CBS Television station live for $5.99 per month. CBS All Access already offers every episode of all previous Star Trek television series.
The brand-new Star Trek will introduce new characters seeking imaginative new worlds and new civilizations, while exploring the dramatic contemporary themes that have been a signature of the franchise since its inception in 1966.
Alex Kurtzman will serve as executive producer for the new Star Trek TV series. Kurtzman co-wrote and produced the blockbuster films Star Trek (2009) with Roberto Orci, and Star Trek Into Darkness (2013) with Orci and Damon Lindelof. Both films were produced and directed by J.J. Abrams.
The new series will be produced by CBS Television Studios in association with Kurtzman's Secret Hideout. Kurtzman and Heather Kadin will serve as executive producers. Kurtzman is also an executive producer for the hit CBS television series Scorpion and Limitless, along with Kadin and Orci, and for Hawaii Five-0 with Orci.
Star Trek, which will celebrate its 50th anniversary in 2016, is one of the most successful entertainment franchises of all time. The original Star Trek spawned a dozen feature films and five successful television series. Almost half a century later, the Star Trek television series are licensed on a variety of different platforms in more than 190 countries, and the franchise still generates more than a billion social media impressions every month.
Born from the mind of Gene Roddenberry, the original Star Trek series debuted on Sept. 8, 1966 and aired for three seasons – a short run that belied the influence it would have for generations. The series also broke new ground in storytelling and cultural mores, providing a progressive look at topics including race relations, global politics and the environment.
"There is no better time to give Star Trek fans a new series than on the heels of the original show's 50th anniversary celebration," said David Stapf, President, CBS Television Studios. "Everyone here has great respect for this storied franchise, and we're excited to launch its next television chapter in the creative mind and skilled hands of Alex Kurtzman, someone who knows this world and its audience intimately."
"This new series will premiere to the national CBS audience, then boldly go where no first-run Star Trek series has gone before – directly to its millions of fans through CBS All Access," said Marc DeBevoise, Executive Vice President/General Manager – CBS Digital Media. "We've experienced terrific growth for CBS All Access, expanding the service across affiliates and devices in a very short time. We now have an incredible opportunity to accelerate this growth with the iconic Star Trek, and its devoted and passionate fan base, as our first original series."
"Every day, an episode of the Star Trek franchise is seen in almost every country in the world," said Armando Nuñez, President and CEO, CBS Global Distribution Group. "We can't wait to introduce Star Trek's next voyage on television to its vast global fan base."
CBS All Access offers its customers more than 7,500 episodes from the current television season, previous seasons and classic shows on demand nationwide, as well as the ability to stream local CBS stations live in more than 110 markets. Subscribers can use the service online and across devices via CBS.com, the CBS App for iOS, Android and Windows 10, as well as on connected devices such as Apple TV, Android TV, Chromecast, Roku players and Roku TV, with more connected devices to come.
The new television series is not related to the upcoming feature film Star Trek Beyond which is scheduled to be distributed by Paramount Pictures in summer 2016.
I'm looking forward to seeing more story details.
It would imagine it would be set in the new timeline. I doubt it will be set in the 24th century or afterwards. I always feel like that they rebooted the series because they didn't had anywhere else to go since the cast for TNG was getting too old and Enterprise didn't do so well neither.
The YouTube trek series is pretty good.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Nov 02, 2015, 05:29:47 PM
It would imagine it would be set in the new timeline. I doubt it will be set in the 24th century or afterwards. I always feel like that they rebooted the series because they didn't had anywhere else to go since the cast for TNG was getting too old and Enterprise didn't do so well neither.
The article mentions it wont have anything to do with the new film - but that doesn't preclude it being set in the new timeline. It'd be interesting to see them go back to the prime timeline but I'd also be interested to see more of the new universe aesthetic...as long as they can have some substance behind the show (unlike the films).
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/star-trek-beyond-trailer-will-join-star-wars/
Trailer for Beyond will be in front of Star Wars.
God I hope Shatner has a secret cameo in this.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2015, 04:09:49 PM
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/star-trek-beyond-trailer-will-join-star-wars/
Trailer for Beyond will be in front of Star Wars.
I foresee a lot of boos coming from the audience.
Nah. I'd like to think we're more grown up than that. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYz13vgX0U0&feature=youtu.be
The trailer in German.
And taken down.
http://pulse.therpf.com/watch-the-leaked-trailer-for-star-trek-beyond
It's back up for now.
So it's at least partially based around the Enterprise crew stranded on a planet somewhere. I'm down. 8)
The trailer looks really interesting. I am liking this reboot universe of Star Trek.
That trailer was shit. This film looks terrible. f**king Justin Lin, really? I didn't know he was directing. I swear Paramount has completely lost focus on what ST is supposed to be about: exploration.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 14, 2015, 10:02:38 PM
That trailer was shit. This film looks terrible. f**king Justin Lin, really? I didn't know he was directing. I swear Paramount has completely lost focus on what ST is supposed to be about: exploration.
By all accounts, this is actually a result of them doing just that. Exploring. And the best Trek films have been actiony.
I really want to like these new films but I just can't get into them. I didn't really dig the trailer. It looked kind of shallow. The only bit I really liked in it was the bit with Bones and Spock.
The trailer felt a bit all over the place.
So the reports that Paramount wanted Star Trek to be like Guardians of The Galaxy turned out to be accurate by the looks of this trailer.
Looks like utter s**t.
I've had a tradition of going to see every Star Trek movie with my dad, since ''The Undiscovered Country''. This might be the only one we don't bother with.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 15, 2015, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 14, 2015, 10:02:38 PM
That trailer was shit. This film looks terrible. f**king Justin Lin, really? I didn't know he was directing. I swear Paramount has completely lost focus on what ST is supposed to be about: exploration.
By all accounts, this is actually a result of them doing just that. Exploring. And the best Trek films have been actiony.
I really want to like these new films but I just can't get into them. I didn't really dig the trailer. It looked kind of shallow. The only bit I really liked in it was the bit with Bones and Spock.
Yeah, actiony to a point. They didn't have one-liners or slow-mo or OTT moments. I'd call Star Treks IV and VI action-packed but it wasn't ridiculous.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 15, 2015, 11:10:08 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 15, 2015, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 14, 2015, 10:02:38 PM
That trailer was shit. This film looks terrible. f**king Justin Lin, really? I didn't know he was directing. I swear Paramount has completely lost focus on what ST is supposed to be about: exploration.
By all accounts, this is actually a result of them doing just that. Exploring. And the best Trek films have been actiony.
I really want to like these new films but I just can't get into them. I didn't really dig the trailer. It looked kind of shallow. The only bit I really liked in it was the bit with Bones and Spock.
Yeah, actiony to a point. They didn't have one-liners or slow-mo or OTT moments. I'd call Star Treks IV and VI action-packed but it wasn't ridiculous.
Totally agreeing with Doom here. What that trailer showed me was not a Star Trek movie, in fact it didn't even look like a good movie of any kind.
Good God! that was awful!!
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 15, 2015, 11:55:38 PM
Totally agreeing with Doom here. What that trailer showed me was not a Star Trek movie, in fact it didn't even look like a good movie of any kind.
Don't misunderstand me - I think the trailer looked awful. As I said above, it looked so shallow. I just don't think it's issues lie with it being action. I was thinking more of TWoK and First Contact when I said the best movies. Both are very action heavy movies with some silly quotable dialogue.
I want to like these new movies. I really do but they're so frustrating to watch. They're so stupid.
http://www.techinsider.io/george-takei-reviews-star-trek-trailer-2015-12
http://trekmovie.com/2015/12/15/41155/
Elba's new bad guy is called Kraal apparently.
QuoteI really like his character because he's challenging the Federation's philosophy, and it's something growing up I wanted to see. He's a character that has a distinct philosophy. Sometimes I watch Trek and I see utopia in San Francisco, and you think "They don't have money, so how do they live, how do they compete?" Those are things that his character, in a way, has a very distinct and valid point of view about...when someone is really challenging a way of life, how the Federation should act, I can see – right or wrong – that this is a valid point of view, and that's a point of entry."
That certainly sounds more like Trek.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 16, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 15, 2015, 11:55:38 PM
Totally agreeing with Doom here. What that trailer showed me was not a Star Trek movie, in fact it didn't even look like a good movie of any kind.
Don't misunderstand me - I think the trailer looked awful. As I said above, it looked so shallow. I just don't think it's issues lie with it being action. I was thinking more of TWoK and First Contact when I said the best movies. Both are very action heavy movies with some silly quotable dialogue.
I want to like these new movies. I really do but they're so frustrating to watch. They're so stupid.
http://www.techinsider.io/george-takei-reviews-star-trek-trailer-2015-12
http://trekmovie.com/2015/12/15/41155/
Elba's new bad guy is called Kraal apparently.
QuoteI really like his character because he's challenging the Federation's philosophy, and it's something growing up I wanted to see. He's a character that has a distinct philosophy. Sometimes I watch Trek and I see utopia in San Francisco, and you think "They don't have money, so how do they live, how do they compete?" Those are things that his character, in a way, has a very distinct and valid point of view about...when someone is really challenging a way of life, how the Federation should act, I can see – right or wrong – that this is a valid point of view, and that's a point of entry."
That certainly sounds more like Trek.
Well I thought you were agreeing with doom actually... the trailer was underwhelming at best. However on the later point, yes, ST is about dilemma and philosophical questions. There's a purpose to the movie. That's why I call the first two in the reboot bad ST films cause none of that was present. I mean f**k that entire Nero... I mean there was nothing. Then Darkness was with a maniacal robocop trying to kill Khan and the whole thing about the torpedoes... so what. There wasn't any lesson to be taught. Then there's Khan's superblood... good grief. I guess looking back, ST1 was trying to be a hard sci-fi movie, ala 2001. Yea it was boring. Then Khan was about revenge and totally forgetting that perhaps you should check-in on people you marooned. The Search for Spock was about loyalty and the dangers of stepping beyond your capabilities because you got impatient. The Voyage Home is about our current stupidity and arrogance. The Final Frontier tried to do something, I think, but at least it taught us, what does god need with a star ship. Meh, Shatner directed that one I think. The Undiscovered Country had, let them die. I watched the TNG movies but for the love of me I can't remember shit from them. I do remember thinking FC wasn't all that great though. I watched it a while ago and it sure didn't age well.
Now it seems at least they're attacking philosophy in this movie but then that trailer with the chick that kicks... f**k me man. :P
Trailer looks absolutely woeful. Wow.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/jj-abrams-and-the-long-road-to-star-wars%23.pyR358Xp27#.xv61mPBay
QuoteBut his follow-up, Star Trek Into Darkness, did not receive the same across-the-board positive critical and fan response. The first movie was written by Kurtzman and Orci; they signed on to write the sequel, along with Damon Lindelof, Abrams' collaborator on Lost (who had been a producer of Star Trek). "I take full responsibility for this — I was encouraging the writers in certain directions, and we were working on the script and putting it together," Abrams said. "But by the time we started shooting, and this was literally at the very beginning of the shoot, there were certain things I was unsure of."
"Any movie, any story has a fundamental conversation happening during it," he continued. "There's a fundamental argument; there's a central question. And I didn't have it."
The first movie, according to Abrams, had a "very strong story" about "two orphans who are completely at odds, who then come to realize they need to work together to survive"; the second did not. Kirk and Spock remained the film's central characters, but, Abrams asked: "What was their issue? What was their dynamic? What was their problem?" He answered: "And it wasn't really clear."
"It was a little bit lightweight, ultimately, that Kirk was disappointed that Spock didn't feel that their friendship was as meaningful to him as it did to Kirk, which is sort of what we're saying," Abrams said. "And that Spock's arc is coming to unabashedly love his friend Kirk."
Then there was Khan. Word leaked out early that the canonical Star Trek villain would be featured in Into Darkness, and that Benedict Cumberbatch would be playing him. The spoiler-averse Abrams sought to put this genie back into the bottle, and said Cumberbatch was playing someone named John Harrison — true. But Harrison's real identity was Khan, and the attempt to fool fans only succeeded in angering them.
Abrams laughed while talking about it now: "At the end of the day, while I agree with Damon Lindelof that withholding the Khan thing ended up seeming like we were lying to people, I was trying to preserve the fun for the audience, and not just tell them something that the characters don't learn for 45 minutes into the movie, so the audience wouldn't be so ahead of it."
(He added: "But it was Simon Pegg who lied outright, and I adore him for doing so. I remember when I read that he basically said, 'He doesn't play Khan,' and I thought, Oh my god, Simon Pegg!")
Abrams did reshoots on Into Darkness, which he felt "helped a little bit here and there." But his problems with the final movie come back to its plot, which, he said, "was not anyone's fault but mine, or, frankly, anyone's problem but mine."
"I felt like, in a weird way, it was a little bit of a collection of scenes that were written by my friends — brilliantly talented writers — who I somehow misled in trying to do certain things. And yet, I found myself frustrated by my choices, and unable to hang my hat on an undeniable thread of the main story," Abrams said. "So then I found myself on that movie basically tap-dancing as well as I could to try and make the sequences as entertaining as possible. Thank god I had the cast that we have, who are so unbelievably fun to watch. And an incredible new villain in Benedict Cumberbatch."
"I would never say that I don't think that the movie ended up working," Abrams said. "But I feel like it didn't work as well as it could have had I made some better decisions before we started shooting."
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-trek/news/a777606/simon-pegg-admits-he-didnt-love-the-star-trek-beyond-trailer/
It still looks better than TMP, Final Frontier and Insurrection. :P
I saw the trailer tonight. The music in the trailer was awful, but I will give the movie a try. It could surprise us all and be good.
I do think it's a fairly meh trailer. I'll need some more context and plot details to give any real early thoughts on the movie itself. I like the idea of the crew being stranded on a strange planet, and what Elba has said about his character sounds interesting. I hope they work in some of moral ambiguity the Federation displayed in Into Darkness as part of the conflict.
Oh, they're doing this trick already, only the third movie in and already ignoring what came before.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/16/10298472/star-trek-beyond-will-ignore-everything-that-happened-in-into-darkness
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 19, 2015, 05:45:27 AM
Oh, they're doing this trick already, only the third movie in and already ignoring what came before.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/16/10298472/star-trek-beyond-will-ignore-everything-that-happened-in-into-darkness
Eh, sounds like they're just making it a stand alone story like the last two were. It's not like Into Darkness ended on a major unresolved cliffhanger or anything.
A lot of people in the theater for Episode 7 last night had very mixed feelings for the trailer when they show it last night. People where confused and mention that the music in the trailer was awful. I do worry that the movie may bomb due to bad marketing.
Still plenty of time to counter that with a proper campaign.
I would hate if the movie bombs and it almost kills the franchise like Star Trek 5 did.
I have faith in Pegg's writing, and even he acknowledged the trailer was pretty bad. The crew being stranded on a planet is reminiscent of 'The Galileo Seven,' which was an excellent episode where the Enterprise shuttlecraft crashed on a hospitable planet full of aggressive, primitive humanoid beings.
They could also go for 'The Devil in the Dark' which has a very 'Alien' vibe.
I still believe a William Shatner cameo is essential, especially after Nimoy's passing. I know Shatner can be difficult and controversial, but no one can deny it will bring a tear to many a fan's eye on the 50th anniversary of this franchise. A scene was written for him in the original script and I'd be disappointed if Pegg chose not to pursue this opportunity.
Personally, I don't understand why they put out this trailer, everyone seems to think it's terrible and it's even in the news. How come none of their team saw it for what it was, a poorly edited trailer, with a poor choice of musical theme
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/may/19/simon-pegg-criticises-dumbing-down-of-cinema
Quote"They had a script for Star Trek that wasn't really working for them. I think the studio was worried that it might have been a little bit too Star Trek-y," he said of the original draft.
:-\
So wait, they had a Star Trek script that was too "Star Trek-y"?
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Movie goers like action. I think they mean that the movie would have very little action in it and they fear it might turn people off.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/crowdfunded-star-trek-movie-draws-851474?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR+Breaking+News_now_2015-12-30+06%3A34%3A00_HLewis&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews
Potentially bad news for fanfilms and crowdfunded ones.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Dec 26, 2015, 03:06:03 PM
Movie goers like action. I think they mean that the movie would have very little action in it and they fear it might turn people off.
I like action as well, but Star Trek's action has to be grounded within that universe. This isn't Fast & Furious In Space. For a perfect example of Star Trek's action, look no further than Wrath of Khan or First Contact.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 11:39:28 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/crowdfunded-star-trek-movie-draws-851474?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR+Breaking+News_now_2015-12-30+06%3A34%3A00_HLewis&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews
Potentially bad news for fanfilms and crowdfunded ones.
QuoteThe producers of Axanar are making a Star Trek picture they describe themselves as a fully professional independent Star Trek film. Their activity clearly violates our Star Trek copyrights, which, of course, we will continue to vigorously protect."
Oh f**k right off, you corporate c**ts. You're just worried someone will make a better film than you.
Since there's a new television show in the works, I'm not too worried about this movie doing any lasting damage to the franchise. The show will probably go back to the dynamics seen in the old shows, updated for a modern audience.
That's the ideal situation. I'd like to Jonathan Frakes direct an episode. He'd know what to do.
Bryan Fuller Named Co-creator of New Star Trek TV Serieshttp://www.startrek.com/article/bryan-fuller-named-co-creator-of-new-star-trek-tv-series (http://www.startrek.com/article/bryan-fuller-named-co-creator-of-new-star-trek-tv-series)
Very exciting news for me. 8) I'll have to eat this show up...
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Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 09, 2016, 10:13:56 PM
Bryan Fuller Named Co-creator of New Star Trek TV Series
http://www.startrek.com/article/bryan-fuller-named-co-creator-of-new-star-trek-tv-series (http://www.startrek.com/article/bryan-fuller-named-co-creator-of-new-star-trek-tv-series)
Very exciting news for me. 8) I'll have to eat this show up...
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I see what you did there. XD
They should get Mads to play a chef aboard the Enterprise.
Spoiler
And then everyone will wonder why all the less cordial crew members keep vanishing.
This will be infinitely better than the next film.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2016, 01:56:47 AM
This will be infinitely better than the next film.
Not to mention the last couple of TV shows.... *shudder*
Only ever seen a bunch of random episodes of TOS and maybe one or two from TNG.
If memory served he also tried to pitch a new series before the JJ-verse took off.
I recently saw Into Darkness again, as part of a double feature with WoK. I still like it. It's not a perfect film but it's good fun.
http://news.yahoo.com/star-trek-alum-nicholas-meyer-joins-cbs-series-203038109.html (http://news.yahoo.com/star-trek-alum-nicholas-meyer-joins-cbs-series-203038109.html)
Holy. f**king. Shit........... :o
Thank goodness. He's one of the best Trek creators out there. Also, it's a good thing Kurtzman is only producing; no more silly magic blood stories.
I am so happy about this news. He's responsible for some of the best Trek! It's nice to actually see some overwhelming positive reaction!
http://www.startrek.com/article/roddenberry-added-to-new-tv-series-team
Oh and Star Trek: Horizon went live last week.
It's definitely a good one. Bit too much flare and the lighting betrays its CG environments but otherwise I really enjoyed it.
I may have already posted these -
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More on Paramount/CBS vs Star Trek Axanar. Star Trek Beyond director chips in too.
As a donator to the Axanar kickstarter, I feel Paramount is not only betraying their fans by doing this but are passing up what could be a new Battlestar Galactica in terms of sci fi television.
They're downright alienating their fanbase doing this. Star Wars actually embraces their fandom making films and gives presents awards.
I can sort of see where Paramount maybe coming from in terms of being worried that Axanar maybe making a profit. 1 million is a lot. But they appear to be being transparent with where it's all going.
Except that its still just a fan film. No matter how professional and well done it is, it is not going to steal their profits. If anything it is celebrating the brand name.
Personally I feel the Axanar short felt more true to the spirit of Star Trek than the new movies have been.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 15, 2016, 08:15:13 PM
They're downright alienating their fanbase doing this. Star Wars actually embraces their fandom making films and gives presents awards.
I can sort of see where Paramount maybe coming from in terms of being worried that Axanar maybe making a profit. 1 million is a lot. But they appear to be being transparent with where it's all going.
Exactly, even FOX of all people is fine with the fanbase making Alien and Predator fanfilms. I don't recall Dark Ages having any lawsuits despite making a fanfilm through Kickstarter funds.
And look at what that did in the end, it promoted and celebrated Predator. Many people loved Dark Ages.
You're right, all Paramount are doing is alienating their fans.
How much you want to bet Paramount will meddle with the production of this new series to stay closer in tone and style to the JJ Abrams movies?
Quote from: genocyber on Mar 15, 2016, 08:33:26 PM
Except that its still just a fan film. No matter how professional and well done it is, it is not going to steal their profits. If anything it is celebrating the brand name.
Personally I feel the Axanar short felt more true to the spirit of Star Trek than the new movies have been.
I definitely agree. It's a celebration of Star Trek. It's people whose love for the franchise goes that far and their vision resonates with so many fans that they were able to amass that kind of money.
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Mar 15, 2016, 09:41:14 PM
Exactly, even FOX of all people is fine with the fanbase making Alien and Predator fanfilms. I don't recall Dark Ages having any lawsuits despite making a fanfilm through Kickstarter funds.
And look at what that did in the end, it promoted and celebrated Predator. Many people loved Dark Ages.
You're right, all Paramount are doing is alienating their fans.
They did C&D Alien Identity though. But that was down to how similar it seemed to be in terms of what Blomkamp was doing with Alien 3.2
Quote from: genocyber on Mar 16, 2016, 12:03:45 AM
How much you want to bet Paramount will meddle with the production of this new series to stay closer in tone and style to the JJ Abrams movies?
It already sounds like that's a bit of a mess. They're doing some reshoots and have added a new character into it. I don't have massive hopes for Beyond.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/03/zoe-saldana-back-on-set-for-star-trek-beyond-shoots-shows-off-new-uniform-look/
QuoteAs we reported late last week, the production team is back at work for additional STAR TREK BEYOND filming, and today Uhura actress Zoe Saldana took a break from her time on the Guardians of the Galaxy 2 set to get back into uniform.
Like with Zachary Quinto, Simon Pegg, and the other cast we've seen over the past nine months of filming, Saldana is also sporting one of the new uniforms worn by the Enterprise crew - and as we reported back in the fall, the lieutenant has a rank braid back on her sleeve.
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God she is so hot.
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A three bladed lightsabre!!!
It's not long until release. I'm hoping they'll gear up the promo soon.
It's First Contact Day! Well, it will be in 40 odd years!
http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-trek/254280/8-amazing-things-about-star-trek-first-contact
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2016, 03:22:43 PM
It's First Contact Day! Well, it will be in 40 odd years!
http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-trek/254280/8-amazing-things-about-star-trek-first-contact
Can't have first contact without music...
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Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WiyxXpyZc
I love that song! Always have since the film.
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Definitely not Jem'Hadar. I never understood where that silly rumour came from.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2016, 03:22:43 PM
It's First Contact Day! Well, it will be in 40 odd years!
http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-trek/254280/8-amazing-things-about-star-trek-first-contact
Star Trek First Contact, not only one of the best Star Trek movies, its a sci fi movie that is without a doubt in my top 20 of best sci fi ever.
In fact lets open a top 20 sci fi thread.
I never got the love for first contact... I thought it was an extremely mediocre movie. However as of right now the fight for worst big budget movie this year is between this and ghostbusters. That is based off of the trailers. :P
I can't disagree with you there. Nothing about Beyond has me excited. I'll see it straight away, mind but I can't say I'm chomping at the bits for it.
First Contact is one of my favourite sci-fis too. Both FC and the Wraith of Khan are favourite Treks and scifis.
Khan is legendary, the original one. The remake is great as an action movie but I thought it was one of the worst remakes and least star trek of all the movies ever made. Maybe I should watch First Contact again, been a long time since I've seen it. For some reason it just felt and looked nonsensical to me.
Into Darkness pisses me off something chronic. JJ-Trek does to be honest.
Yea, honestly, I don't like the JJ-Trek movies. There ok as action flicks but nothing that made a star trek movie what it is was found in either of his movies. You know, the dilemmas, lessons or moral ambiguity. Roddenberry wanted each movie and tv episode to serve a point; there's no point to JJ's movies.
I like some aspects of it - the character beats, the newer aesthetics, the cast - but the writing is just abysmal. It makes very little sense when you sit down and think about it.
There is no lesson learned at the end of the new Treks.
That is its failure.
I forgot that a new Star Trek movie is coming out. The marketing for the new movie sucks. It won't surprise me if the new movie flops.
The writing is worse than the choreography of the gron fight.
I don't think this movie even has a marketing contract in place. That god awful teaser trailer released some time ago is the very one their showing in theaters. Spider Scotty just blows my mind at how stupid this movie could be.
It feels a little that J.J. turned a museum into a fun park for a bigger audience,
like Anne Frank house, oh look there is Anne when she was 4 years old vrrrooooooommm go down the rollercoaster oh look there is daddy Frank doing some gardening vrrrroooom sharp turn, but after one or two rides the fun is over with the park.
And the museum stilll keeps me coming back every year.
Thats how Star Trek feels at the moment, and the museum representing the older Star Trek movies/series.
When i was young you had Voyager and DS9 every week it was just epic.
Now...not so much
I think JJ's Star Trek movies are fine. He made the series more relevant again and made it become more popular than it was before. Yeah there is action, but people are okay with First Contact having a lot of action scenes. So it's okay for a older Trek movie to be action pack, but not the newer ones? I think rebooting the series was a good choice since the series didn't much where to go after Nemesis and the Next Generation cast said that they didn't want to do another movie after Nemesis because they where getting old. The new movies are reboots and are meant to be different. So I like them for what they are since they are not trying to be like the original series.
I thought the first JJ Trek was great. Its themes came out of its character interactions.
The second was cool to watch, but thematically empty. No idea what it's saying.
The original Star Trek series still exist. You can still buy and watch it anytime you want. It's not like JJ was like "Everything from the original series and beyond is gone. You are now stuck with my movies forever!!". A new timeline allow new stories and creative ideas to the series.
I thought the reboot angle was genius.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/04/justin-lin-says-directing-star-trek-beyond-feels-like-hes-making-the-biggest-budgeted-fan-film/
Makes me wonder if Nimoy's dying had a bigger effect on the film than first imagined. Enough so that they literally dumped what they had and started over. Still I'm not really up beat about the "fan film" part. That either means too much action or too much "head up it's own ass". The story seems to revolve around federation colonization and the push back. So, there's that. Still I hope they can knock off the stupid romance and ffs Kirk doesn't f**k everything on site... he hardly f**ked anything in the original movies. I never got why that had to be such a gag but if this is the "biggest budgeted fan film ever"; then my monies on him f**king an 8-titty tentacle babe. uh-huh. :)
Maybe not in the original movies but in the original show he certainly got around. :laugh: About every other episode.
Yeah, they tried and tried to make the annoying will they or won't they crap with Yeoman Rand work, and thankfully just gave up and made Kirk a manwhore.
If they wanna spice it up they should have made Kirk gay. Yea have him and Sulu hook up. OH MAI!
or would that be taking it too far. :laugh:
Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 11, 2016, 11:17:33 PM
If they wanna spice it up they should have made Kirk gay. Yea have him and Sulu hook up. OH MAI!
or would that be taking it too far. :laugh:
Give it to Disney. You never know. [emoji5]
Ah but Disney only does things for the money. eg sell sex to kids in round about ways. It wouldn't be magical. :P
Hicks, you once replied to a comment I made about the lack of exploration in the films and that the action in the movies is a result, of, well, exploration. I have to agree to a limited extent. It seems like the emphasis in these new movies is on action, and action alone. While the crew is exploring, there doesn't seem to be much emphasis on that aspect of Trek, which is why I think there is a growing group of people who are disillusioned with the new films. While the older Trek films (I-VI) were action-heavy, the had the benefit of following the show which was all about exploration.
And the movies that were about exploration pretty much all sucked.
Are you referring to the new films or the old ones featuring the TOS characters?
All of them, really. Let's see, as far as exploration goes, we have TMP, which consists of the Enterprise slooooowly moving through a giant space fart, The Final Frontier about which nothing more needs be said... Generations and Insurrection are both awful... any others with more than a minor exploration focus?
The search for Spock. Is well. A search. Lol
Exploring Christopher Lloyd's range of ham. 8)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2016, 07:38:10 PM
All of them, really. Let's see, as far as exploration goes, we have TMP, which consists of the Enterprise slooooowly moving through a giant space fart, The Final Frontier about which nothing more needs be said... Generations and Insurrection are both awful... any others with more than a minor exploration focus?
Yeah but like I said, they all had the benefit of following their respective TV series.They could go in a different direction.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2016, 07:52:45 PM
Exploring Christopher Lloyd's range of ham. 8)
And John Laroquette (Night Court fame) as Maltz. The last Klingon.
Lol
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2016, 07:38:10 PM
All of them, really. Let's see, as far as exploration goes, we have TMP, which consists of the Enterprise slooooowly moving through a giant space fart, The Final Frontier about which nothing more needs be said... Generations and Insurrection are both awful... any others with more than a minor exploration focus?
Generations really isn't that bad. I find it to be quite a strong character piece. The Kirk death wasn't handled very greatly but I loved the focus on Picard.
Generations was laughable. Killing off Kirk was stupid, but I cannot forgive the Enterprise/Bird of Prey battle. I just can't. It was insulting.
http://trekmovie.com/2016/04/13/breaking-the-new-star-trek-tv-show-will-be-set-post-undiscovered-country-pre-tng/
The anthology comment has me interested.
QuoteA trusted source has chimed in and told me that it looks like the show will be a seasonal anthology, which means the first season will be set post-Undiscovered Country. After that the entire Star Trek universe is potentially open. So those of you hoping for a post-Dominion War show... don't give up hope. That could come some day.
Hm. So, TNG: Origins? That's what it sounds like.
I doubt it. There's almost 70 years between TMP-era and TNG that are known as the Lost Era that a lot of fans are always curious about (I'm one of them). It sounds like this first season will be dipping into that.
70 years isn't much when you consider that Picard is in his 50s at least by the time he becomes captain.
Does TNG still happen in the new timeline? Due to time travel, TNG may not even happen in the new timeline at all.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 15, 2016, 08:10:04 PM
70 years isn't much when you consider that Picard is in his 50s at least by the time he becomes captain.
He was actually in his 40s.
The bald head is deceiving.
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Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 15, 2016, 08:13:05 PM
Does TNG still happen in the new timeline? Due to time travel, TNG may not even happen in the new timeline at all.
I don't think the new show has anything to do with the JJ-verse.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 15, 2016, 08:13:05 PM
Does TNG still happen in the new timeline? Due to time travel, TNG may not even happen in the new timeline at all.
It's been confirmed to take place in the Shatnerverse rather than Pineverse
Excellent.
The Shat.
Quote from: Vermillion on Apr 15, 2016, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 15, 2016, 08:10:04 PM
70 years isn't much when you consider that Picard is in his 50s at least by the time he becomes captain.
He was actually in his 40s.
The bald head is deceiving.
40s, OK. Still, it's not much time.
They may play with younger (or older, it's anthology after all, could be anywhen) TNG characters at some point but I seriously don't expect it in the first season.
I'm looking forward to it.
I miss trek on the small screen.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2016, 07:40:22 AM
They may play with younger (or older, it's anthology after all, could be anywhen) TNG characters at some point but I seriously don't expect it in the first season.
As long as they don't show up in Star Trek: Beyond. Ugh, someone recently postulated that Kirk could run into a young Picard. Just, NO.
Quote from: Vermillion on Apr 20, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
I'm looking forward to it.
I miss trek on the small screen.
Me too.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 20, 2016, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2016, 07:40:22 AM
They may play with younger (or older, it's anthology after all, could be anywhen) TNG characters at some point but I seriously don't expect it in the first season.
As long as they don't show up in Star Trek: Beyond. Ugh, someone recently postulated that Kirk could run into a young Picard. Just, NO.
That would be immensely lame. I just hope Beyond picks up the ball and makes something better of the JJ-verse.
http://collider.com/star-trek-beyond-simon-pegg-writing/
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Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 15, 2016, 08:13:05 PM
Does TNG still happen in the new timeline? Due to time travel, TNG may not even happen in the new timeline at all.
It's been confirmed to take place in the Shatnerverse rather than Pineverse
I'm surprise that they having it take place in the old timeline given that they rebooted everything. I thought they would have everything set in the new timeline since it's more relevant.
It's probably to do with the license split. Paramount has the rights to movies, CBS has the rights to television. As the JJ-verse is strictly a Paramount thing, they probably either aren't letting CBS play in that sandbox or CBS just doesn't want to.
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/726124085474922496
http://deadline.com/2016/05/star-trek-cbs-tv-series-begin-filming-fall-toronto-1201747955/
Starts filming this Autumn.
http://trekmovie.com/2016/04/30/is-paramount-gearing-up-for-star-trek-4/
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Came across these snaps on Facebook. Not sure if they were in the trailer or not but it shows some significant damage to the Enterprise. Spoilers just in case -
Spoiler
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Looking awesome, can't wait! :D
Yet again the enterprise is destroyed. the federation flagship reaily carnt hold its own in the JJverse
Yeah, that's one of my biggest issues with the JJ films. It'd be nice to see an Enterprise actually be decent. It's apparently from the new trailer being shown at that fan event on Friday.
The alien girl seems cute.
Quote from: genocyber on May 18, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
The alien girl seems cute.
Banged by Kirk.
For sure.
Not a massive fan of the logo. The New Crews line does seem to reinforce the anthology rumour. I really hope that's true.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 18, 2016, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 18, 2016, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: genocyber on May 18, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
The alien girl seems cute.
Banged by Kirk.
For sure.
Footless girl from Kingsman. Definitely cute. ;)
Not much of an alien if you're basically starting off with a cute girl. Although she appears to be kind of bitchy but I guess Kirk would find that kind of alien sex
way hot.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 19, 2016, 08:47:38 AM
Not a massive fan of the logo.
The logo stinks.
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 19, 2016, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 18, 2016, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 18, 2016, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: genocyber on May 18, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
The alien girl seems cute.
Banged by Kirk.
For sure.
Footless girl from Kingsman. Definitely cute. ;)
Not much of an alien if you're basically starting off with a cute girl. Although she appears to be kind of bitchy but I guess Kirk would find that kind of alien sex way hot.
Well it's not really much of an alien either when it's just a dude with funny ears.
Whats going on with the trailer for the next film their taking their time to release it
Considering that the first trailer sucked... I wouldn't be surprised if they're smart enough to not bother releasing another one. I still think this movie could be the bomb of the decade unless something drastically changes.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 19, 2016, 05:48:05 PM
Well it's not really much of an alien either when it's just a dude with funny ears.
In all fairness... we've never seen what's inside of his pants. We all just assume that it is the same. Can somebody go ask Kirk about it? :P
Should be seeing a new trailer soon for Beyond, it was classified today.
Star Trek: Beyond (trailer #2) 05/19/2016 2:24 Paramount Pictures
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I believe there's a new trailer being screened at a fan event that Paramount put together today. Don't know if they intend to release it online though.
Spock has some hairy palms there.
http://www.scifiob.com/sfob-blog/rumor-mill-nathan-fillion-new-star-trek-captain
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I have zero idea where this has come from but I would not object.
I'm a Star Wars fan but this looks very entertaining and I like it 8)
Thank god it doesn't have that sabotage music this time.
that was a good trailer haha way better than the last one
Trailer got me excited for this film now. That a Nx at the end their
Quote from: genocyber on May 20, 2016, 08:32:55 AM
Spock has some hairy palms there.
Which part of the hand do you think the palm is? :o
I still wish they'd kept the Shatner cameo. I can't think of a better way to mark the 50th anniversary.
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Can't f**king wait ;D
That trailer was actually really good. They should have just led with that.
I really enjoyed this trailer. Felt like it had actual substance to it. Also loved seeing the new starship (though obviously modelled after the old NX).
I'm gonna have a hard believing that Kirk can kick Idris Elba's ass, that's for sure. :laugh:
The lawsuit against Axanar is apparently being dropped. They announced it at the fan event last night.
http://deadline.com/2016/05/star-trek-axanar-lawsuit-ending-jj-abrams-paramount-1201760721/
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Star Trek Beyond director and Star Trek Axanar creator.
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Quote from: ace3g on May 21, 2016, 07:44:01 PM
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This poster makes me expect a really boring, 2001 wannabe. :P
I prefer to think of it was an effects reel. :P I do like the poster though. Shame it's an exclusive.
That poster is a nice recreation of the 1979 Motion Picture poster - but it can't hide that it's just another Abrams-verse film ... :D
Well, I won't spend my money on a movie ticket, but on the DVD later ... ;)
Instead of I'm really curious about the new TV show!
I'm curious to see how Pegg has done writing it. My main issues with the last films stem from the writing.
Seems like it gave away the whole plot in the trailer.
Kirk and crew go out to do some deep space exploring, get shot down on a planet, end up on a planet of enslaved people who're all marooned. Villain has a grudge against the federation, albino alien is love interest/action girl who helps kirk save the day who I'm guessing probably dies at the end.
Sounds like a mix of the old movies :D
Quote from: genocyber on May 23, 2016, 11:13:12 AM
... albino alien is love interest/action girl who helps kirk save the day who I'm guessing probably dies at the end.
Who will die? Kirk or the albino girl? :D
I actually wouldn't mind if they did V'Ger at some point in the new movies. They need to remake Star Trek IV first, though.
I'd rather they avoid trying to do any more retellings for the meantime. I'd like to see them do something original and good first. If they can do that - I wouldn't be opposed to seeing something Mirror Universe...
Mirror Universe would be fun. ;D I actually like the weird TOS series episode with Gary 7, and they did some cool stuff with him the expanded universe, so I sort of wish they'd bring him back. That won't ever happen, though.
Or they can take the premise of Star Trek V and do a version that isn't shit.
What does God need with a starship? :laugh:
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 23, 2016, 03:16:31 PM
I actually wouldn't mind if they did V'Ger at some point in the new movies. They need to remake Star Trek IV first, though.
If they did Vger it certainly wouldn't have that mystique the first movie had. It'd just be Kirk charging the ship through the cloud shooting at everything in front of it until he rams the voyager probe and blows it up.
Quote from: genocyber on May 23, 2016, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 23, 2016, 03:16:31 PM
I actually wouldn't mind if they did V'Ger at some point in the new movies. They need to remake Star Trek IV first, though.
If they did Vger it certainly wouldn't have that mystique the first movie had. It'd just be Kirk charging the ship through the cloud shooting at everything in front of it until he rams the voyager probe and blows it up.
Anything would be better than 2+ hours of jackasses staring at clouds.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 23, 2016, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: genocyber on May 23, 2016, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 23, 2016, 03:16:31 PM
I actually wouldn't mind if they did V'Ger at some point in the new movies. They need to remake Star Trek IV first, though.
If they did Vger it certainly wouldn't have that mystique the first movie had. It'd just be Kirk charging the ship through the cloud shooting at everything in front of it until he rams the voyager probe and blows it up.
Anything would be better than 2+ hours of jackasses staring at clouds.
It's a shame the baby from 2001 space odyssey didn't blow up the planet earth at the end too, right? Could have had an amazing space dog fight of an army of HALs attacking it!
Quote from: genocyber on May 23, 2016, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 23, 2016, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: genocyber on May 23, 2016, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 23, 2016, 03:16:31 PM
I actually wouldn't mind if they did V'Ger at some point in the new movies. They need to remake Star Trek IV first, though.
If they did Vger it certainly wouldn't have that mystique the first movie had. It'd just be Kirk charging the ship through the cloud shooting at everything in front of it until he rams the voyager probe and blows it up.
Anything would be better than 2+ hours of jackasses staring at clouds.
It's a shame the baby from 2001 space odyssey didn't blow up the planet earth at the end too, right? Could have had an amazing space dog fight of an army of HALs attacking it!
Yeah because I'm just an action hungry idiot, right? :laugh: It can't just be because the film was poorly edited and written.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 23, 2016, 03:37:53 PM
Or they can take the premise of Star Trek V and do a version that isn't shit.
Or maybe actually do something with the Progenitors?
Some new character posters: http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/05/new-trek-beyond-character-posters-for-mccoy-jaylah/
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What is wrong with his face!
here is another one
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Posters might be the only good part of this movie.
[emoji41]
Quote from: genocyber on May 25, 2016, 06:28:35 PM
What is wrong with his face!
Photoshop?
Quote from: Vermillion on May 25, 2016, 09:30:17 PM
Posters might be the only good part of this movie.
[emoji41]
I'm actually feeling better about the film now that the second trailer came out. One of the things I think these reboots have done well is the cast and the characters. I get the vibe Beyond will be quite strong with character story.
McCoy's face is disturbing. It looks like a wax mannequin.
Quote from: Vermillion on May 25, 2016, 09:30:17 PM
Posters might be the only good part of this movie.
[emoji41]
Don't forget about the Soundtrack ;D
It could be also the best part, as with the former 2 films ;)
Some more character posters -
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http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/05/more-trek-beyond-character-posters-spock-and-chekov/
http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2016/05/26/simon-pegg-explains-what-the-deal-is-with-that-new-star-trek-base
Some minor talking from Pegg about the new Starbase in the film.
Some new news about the All Access series: http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/05/voyager-novelist-kirsten-beyer-joins-trek-2017-team/
Some more character posters for STB: http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/05/scotty-sulu-and-uhura-get-star-trek-beyond-posters/
And a new episode of Star Trek Continues: https://vimeo.com/165431813
Urban nearly didn't return: http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/06/justin-lin-convinced-karl-urban-to-trek-beyond/
He should have made the studio greenlight Dredd 2 in exchange for him doing another one of these.
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More than anything, I'm put off by the choice of director. Who thought Justin Lin was a good choice? Seriously.
The robot guy isn't back? :'(
Anton yelchin (Mr Chekov)has died aged 27 in a car accident
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a798366/star-trek-actor-anton-yelchin-dies-in-a-car-accident-aged-27/?post_id=674391205_10154104576731206#_=_
Damn, what a horrible way to go but surprisingly it's not that uncommon.
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Sad, sad :(
Whelp that's what happens when technology takes over. I bet his car's os became sentient. Skynet finally found a way to prevent the birth of John Conner.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 19, 2016, 11:17:15 PM
Whelp that's what happens when technology takes over. I bet his car's os became sentient. Skynet finally found a way to prevent the birth of John Conner.
Manipulating cars was the TX's thing. And damn... :-\
Well I guess this means Chekov's *puts on sunglasses* been checked off! Yeahhhhh!.
I know it's rotten and too soon but when your characters names are Chekov and Kyle Reese... it just comes with the territory.
Absolutely terrible news. I was surprised to see this pop up on my feed yesterday. I hope they dedicate Beyond to him as well as to Nimoy. :(
Well that's two actors that have died from cars that have been attached to Justin Lin films.
Taking bets for number 3 are we?
http://www.startrek.com/fan-films
Well these sound restrictive...
They sound like absolute bullshit.
That's putting it nicely. :'(
By those guidelines they should be suing themselves.
http://collider.com/new-star-trek-series-details/
New series details.
Never watched any of the other series, only one or two scattered episodes of a few of them. I want to get in the bandwagon :)
Star Trek Beyond' to Screen Early in IMAX via AMC Theaters Marathon
Article (http://collider.com/star-trek-beyond-marathon-imax-amc/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial)
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AMC info (https://www.amctheatres.com/star-trek-marathon?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=adhoc&utm_campaign=20160625_NON_ADH_MKT_Promo_StarTrekMarathon_0&utm_content=NonRecommendation#)
Well that was full of spoilers.
And if that wasn't enough ... only for you :P
''Last resort'' Spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DURDWLUkKXo&feature
''Discover'' Spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P7sVvX_Kl4&feature
''Bold'' Spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik8f8MdC5yo&feature
Glad they dropped the Sabotage music.
The music was definitely becoming irritating. As much as I love the band, their time in ST is done.
I think this has to be the first time a Star Trek movie has been heading our way, and I have no real interest in watching it. Nothing in the trailer appeals to me :(
The fact that this is young Kirk's first mission out into deep space exploration and he already gets his ship trashed shows he really sucks compared to the original Kirk. At least when Shatner lost the Enterprise it was a deliberate gambit to defeat the enemy.
Agreed. New captain also gets a brand new Starship Heavy Cruiser type.
Really.
Like seriously.
Maybe in the Kelvin timeline all the other captains are crap and kirks the best off a bad bunch and that's why he got the enterprise and in the next film the federation will make him keep the NX has punishment for destroying their flagship all the time :laugh:
I'm really getting tired of the super one-sided fights and the mega death space-ships.
It was perfectly fine and great in the first one, it was annoying in Darkness and now it's just plain boring. it's the SAME exact fight repackaged over and over again.
Mega ship appears- Everybody on the Enterprise freaks out- Mega Ship fires it's super torpedoes and lasers- We see a shot of the top half of the ship be blasted into oblivion with debris and explosions- Some convenience comes about, a plan is formed, they manage to do something to the enemy ship, than the Mega Ship gets pwned.
Mark my words they are totally going to repeat that at least 80% of that.
I want actual combat not the same fight again and again and again.
I'm definitely getting fedup of the Enterprise always being blown up in the new Kelvin-verse. It's like "seriously?!" and the fact that Kirk gets to keep the flagship always pissed me off too. Though I do believe the majority of Starfleet got absolutely massacred by Nero so perhaps they simply don't have any really experienced captains left.
Starfleet did not send out their entire army against Nero, just all nearby ships that were available on short notice.
And for once they had more ships than just the Enterprise available for the job.
No, you're right. The fleet was in another system and they just sent everything they had at Earth, didn't they? Mis-remembered that.
For everyonw in the uk Netflix have
Tos
Tos animated
TNG
DS9
Voyager
and Enterprise all available to stream :D
I miss the nice red uniforms the original movies had the crew wear. It was a real improvement from their jersey shirts I felt. They looked like proper navy uniforms.
Quote from: mez86 on Jun 30, 2016, 01:44:18 PM
For everyonw in the uk Netflix have
Tos
Tos animated
TNG
DS9
Voyager
and Enterprise all available to stream :D
I thought they were taking Trek off the streaming services? Awesome. I still haven't seen all of TAS!
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She's banged by Kirk.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 01, 2016, 07:46:58 AM
She's banged by Kirk.
More like Chekov's replacement. Too soon, I think not. So she will become the first alien that kirk has not banged. It'll be the primary theme of the next 3 movies.
It'd be interesting to see if she's carried over. It'd be nice to see some original characters maintained across the crew. I was hoping we'd see more of robot dude.
Actually she is kind of giving up that vibe, as in they may have been trying to introduce a new character to the series. She'll probably show up in the tv series.
Too much makeup for a weekly series.
Cleavage. It sells.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 01, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
It'd be interesting to see if she's carried over. It'd be nice to see some original characters maintained across the crew. I was hoping we'd see more of robot dude.
Okay, I've completely forgotten about robot dude. Who was he again? :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 01, 2016, 05:15:19 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 01, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
It'd be interesting to see if she's carried over. It'd be nice to see some original characters maintained across the crew. I was hoping we'd see more of robot dude.
Okay, I've completely forgotten about robot dude. Who was he again? :laugh:
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http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/0718
Not a robot apparently. :laugh:
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 01, 2016, 11:09:39 AM
Actually she is kind of giving up that vibe, as in they may have been trying to introduce a new character to the series. She'll probably show up in the tv series.
I'm pretty sure the new show is set in the Prime universe.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 01, 2016, 07:25:04 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 01, 2016, 05:15:19 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 01, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
It'd be interesting to see if she's carried over. It'd be nice to see some original characters maintained across the crew. I was hoping we'd see more of robot dude.
Okay, I've completely forgotten about robot dude. Who was he again? :laugh:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/d/d0/Science_officer_0718.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130606102047&path-prefix=en
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/0718
Not a robot apparently. :laugh:
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 01, 2016, 11:09:39 AM
Actually she is kind of giving up that vibe, as in they may have been trying to introduce a new character to the series. She'll probably show up in the tv series.
I'm pretty sure the new show is set in the Prime universe.
haha almost fell off of my chair because I didn't think he was a robot and then I read under the image: "Not a robot apparently. :laugh:" It's a roller coaster I tell yea; this train wreak that is star trek.
What the hell even is that.
He's an augmented human or some such. I'm well behind on my Star Trek Ongoing comics so I don't think I'm anywhere near learning about him.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 01, 2016, 11:09:39 AM
Actually she is kind of giving up that vibe, as in they may have been trying to introduce a new character to the series. She'll probably show up in the tv series.
Doubt it. The forthcoming TV series isn't supposed to occur in the same reality as the last few movies.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 01, 2016, 04:53:37 PM
Too much makeup for a weekly series.
Cleavage. It sells.
Remember the Duras Sisters, Lursa and B'Etor?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 02, 2016, 08:56:42 AM
He's an augmented human or some such. I'm well behind on my Star Trek Ongoing comics so I don't think I'm anywhere near learning about him.
I read he's some kind of highly advanced AI that's assumed humanoid form on the Enterprise.
Quote from: EJA on Jul 02, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 01, 2016, 11:09:39 AM
Actually she is kind of giving up that vibe, as in they may have been trying to introduce a new character to the series. She'll probably show up in the tv series.
Doubt it. The forthcoming TV series isn't supposed to occur in the same reality as the last few movies.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 01, 2016, 04:53:37 PM
Too much makeup for a weekly series.
Cleavage. It sells.
Remember the Duras Sisters, Lursa and B'Etor?
Paper bag them.
Quote from: EJA on Jul 02, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 02, 2016, 08:56:42 AM
He's an augmented human or some such. I'm well behind on my Star Trek Ongoing comics so I don't think I'm anywhere near learning about him.
I read he's some kind of highly advanced AI that's assumed humanoid form on the Enterprise.
And still nobody likes him. Then again he still had more personality than McCoy. :P
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 02, 2016, 07:59:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFcsRpVvt4k
Yep. I can see Spock using that customary defense at the child support hearing. Also McCoy just summed up the reboot in a 42 second clip.
Spock is such a douchebag in these new movies.
The Original 'Star Trek' USS Enterprise is on display in Smithsonian
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The Restored and original USS Enterprise is displayed in the
Boeing Milestones of Flight Hall (https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/boeing-milestones-flight-hall) exhibition at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, DC.
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And they did it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA8D5lK8guE
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Conservator Ariel O'Connor conducts X-ray fluorescence (XRF) spectrometry to determinate the metal alloy used to construct the port nacelle of Star Trek starship Enterprise studio model.
Now the original Enterprise can be seen in Smithsonian in D.C.; you can see more pics from the online gallery of the museum
Clicking Here. (https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/model-starship-enterprise-television-show-star-trek?object=nasm_A19740668000)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa79FmRRgJ0
I really hate being over here sometimes. You guys get all the cool shit. I would love to see her in person. Looks like they did gorgeous work.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 24, 2016, 12:29:36 PM
http://collider.com/new-star-trek-series-details/
New series details.
First of r.i.p. Anton Yelchin, i think im the only one who loved your Fright Night movie and the only one who laughed out loud with the firs Star Trek line when saying the coordinates.
Second im so old ive seen Deep Space Nine and Voyager when it was a weekly episode on tv and im really that old that Star Trek TNG was announcent in Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine or was it the other way around, but havent seen much of those series though, i love the old school Star Trek with Picard and Janeway and Sisko.
But the vibe i started to love and just vanished with the 2009 movie, although it was very cool movie.
It wasnt the old Star Trek.
And Into Darkness was.......even more different and not in a good way, so i hope they stop after this third one wich even the trailer isnt appealing.
So bring it on the nerdy Star Trek.
Quote from: Infected on Jul 05, 2016, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 24, 2016, 12:29:36 PM
http://collider.com/new-star-trek-series-details/
New series details.
First of r.i.p. Anton Yelchin, i think im the only one who loved your Fright Night movie and the only one who laughed out loud with the firs Star Trek line when saying the coordinates.
Second im so old ive seen Deep Space Nine and Voyager when it was a weekly episode on tv and im really that old that Star Trek TNG was announcent in Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine or was it the other way around, but havent seen much of those series though, i love the old school Star Trek with Picard and Janeway and Sisko.
But the vibe i started to love and just vanished with the 2009 movie, although it was very cool movie.
It wasnt the old Star Trek.
And Into Darkness was.......even more different and not in a good way, so i hope they stop after this third one wich even the trailer isnt appealing.
So bring it on the nerdy Star Trek.
There, there, you're not that old. Do you need a hug? Although thanks for making me feel way older for "old school ST with Picard"... TNG's not that old. I was in high school when it aired watched it weekly. However I totally get where you're coming from with regard to the new movies.
Fright Night 2011 stinking was not Anton Yelchin's or any of the casts fault; it was the atrocious special effects that sank the movie.
Original Fright Night was awesome.
Btw. I was in HS too when TNG was on tv. [emoji2]
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 06, 2016, 02:05:25 AM
Original Fright Night was awesome.
Btw. I was in HS too when TNG was on tv. [emoji2]
Well then we have two things in common!
No matter how old I feel, you guys always manage to make me feel like a baby again. I was 5 when Voyager started. I grew up with Trek. I don't remember much about my first house but I remember pulling the cats tail and getting a nip, falling into the pond, a nightmare to do with a lion and watching Deep Space Nine on the TV.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 06, 2016, 12:39:50 AM
Quote from: Infected on Jul 05, 2016, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 24, 2016, 12:29:36 PM
http://collider.com/new-star-trek-series-details/
New series details.
First of r.i.p. Anton Yelchin, i think im the only one who loved your Fright Night movie and the only one who laughed out loud with the firs Star Trek line when saying the coordinates.
Second im so old ive seen Deep Space Nine and Voyager when it was a weekly episode on tv and im really that old that Star Trek TNG was announcent in Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine or was it the other way around, but havent seen much of those series though, i love the old school Star Trek with Picard and Janeway and Sisko.
But the vibe i started to love and just vanished with the 2009 movie, although it was very cool movie.
It wasnt the old Star Trek.
And Into Darkness was.......even more different and not in a good way, so i hope they stop after this third one wich even the trailer isnt appealing.
So bring it on the nerdy Star Trek.
There, there, you're not that old. Do you need a hug? Although thanks for making me feel way older for "old school ST with Picard"... TNG's not that old. I was in high school when it aired watched it weekly. However I totally get where you're coming from with regard to the new movies.
Fright Night 2011 stinking was not Anton Yelchin's or any of the casts fault; it was the atrocious special effects that sank the movie.
Thanks for making me feel right at home here with you guys :D
Booked my tickets! I'm looking forward to it but I'm still worried it'll be poo.
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http://trekmovie.com/2016/07/13/first-reactions-to-star-trek-beyond-overwhelmingly-positive/
I know these generally amount to nothing but early response to STB has been good.
I still think it looks horribly silly and inaccurate to the Trek mythos.
Those responses are saying it's really true to TOS which gives me some hope.
B-roll footage.
http://www.treknews.net/2016/07/15/star-trek-beyond-behind-the-scenes-b-roll-video/
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/07/14/jj-abrams-star-trek-wont-replace-anton-yelchin
Apparently Spock died as well as Nimoy -
Quote"We knew going into this movie it would be a bit of a heartbreak just because of Leonard (Nimoy, the original Spock, who died as Star Trek beyond was in pre-production, and whose death is noted in the plot). We had no idea just how devastating events would become."
I'm glad they wont just recast Yelchin though.
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Seems kind of jumping the gun and alienating to the fans by not having Checkov in future Trek movies. Sure his actor died, but its not like he was the first person to play him. I mean, he looks absolutely nothing like Walter Koenig nor has he shown any real legendary standout moments in his time playing him. Just get someone else and move on.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/netflix-to-carry-star-trek-2017-outside-of-north-america/
QuoteStreaming giant Netflix has announced today that outside of North America, they will be the exclusive carrier of next year's STAR TREK television revival, which will be exclusive to CBS All Access in the USA.
Yay. I don't have to do any fannying around.
Trek (1)4 officially announced: http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/official-star-trek-4-is-happening/
QuoteThe plot for the new pic: Pine's Captain Kirk will cross paths with a man he never had a chance to meet, but whose legacy has haunted him since the day he was born: his father. Chris Hemsworth, who appeared in the 2009 reboot Star Trek, will return to play George Kirk.
http://deadline.com/2016/07/star-trek-4-movie-set-chris-hemsworth-chris-pine-1201787943/
Unexpected, but interesting.
Quote from: Shasvre on Jul 18, 2016, 04:46:13 PM
QuoteThe plot for the new pic: Pine's Captain Kirk will cross paths with a man he never had a chance to meet, but whose legacy has haunted him since the day he was born: his father. Chris Hemsworth, who appeared in the 2009 reboot Star Trek, will return to play George Kirk.
http://deadline.com/2016/07/star-trek-4-movie-set-chris-hemsworth-chris-pine-1201787943/
Unexpected, but interesting.
Not sure how they're going to pull that one off. Something to do with the blackhole when the Kelvin was destroyed, maybe?
Time travel again.
The script writers friend when stuck.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 19, 2016, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: Shasvre on Jul 18, 2016, 04:46:13 PM
QuoteThe plot for the new pic: Pine's Captain Kirk will cross paths with a man he never had a chance to meet, but whose legacy has haunted him since the day he was born: his father. Chris Hemsworth, who appeared in the 2009 reboot Star Trek, will return to play George Kirk.
http://deadline.com/2016/07/star-trek-4-movie-set-chris-hemsworth-chris-pine-1201787943/
Unexpected, but interesting.
Not sure how they're going to pull that one off. Something to do with the blackhole when the Kelvin was destroyed, maybe?
Most likely. Perhaps Borg related? A copy?
Quote from: Shasvre on Jul 19, 2016, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 19, 2016, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: Shasvre on Jul 18, 2016, 04:46:13 PM
QuoteThe plot for the new pic: Pine's Captain Kirk will cross paths with a man he never had a chance to meet, but whose legacy has haunted him since the day he was born: his father. Chris Hemsworth, who appeared in the 2009 reboot Star Trek, will return to play George Kirk.
http://deadline.com/2016/07/star-trek-4-movie-set-chris-hemsworth-chris-pine-1201787943/
Unexpected, but interesting.
Not sure how they're going to pull that one off. Something to do with the blackhole when the Kelvin was destroyed, maybe?
Most likely. Perhaps Borg related? A copy?
Or the Nexus? So George Kirk can die falling off a bridge? :laugh:
No Borg. I'd like to see the Enterprise in an even fight next film. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 19, 2016, 11:26:42 PM
Or the Nexus? So George Kirk can die falling off a bridge? :laugh:
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I still enjoyed Generations.
I forgot that Beyond was coming. Going by the reviews, I'm surprise that it's a good movie. I thought the movie would be bad given that they pick a random choice of a director that never did Sci-Fi and the trailer did suck. Can't wait to see it this weekend!
I rewatched Star Trek and Into Darkness last night in prep. God, I forgot how f**king stupid these films are. I love the cast, I enjoy the characters, the character moments and a lot of the design but Jesus Christ, the plots and specific story points are just so f**king stupid.
I really hope Beyond is actually intelligent. All the positive reviews have really made me excited for it. 2 more days, 2 more.
They are made for he simple minds of today's youth.
Too much thinking and their brains get bored.
Sadly. This movie will suck large.
Battleship. Just like Battkeship.
You sunk it.
Again
Rihanna.
93% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes and being described as TOS-like. I'm really looking forward to seeing it.
You're forgetting that the other two had fresh ratings as well.
I am forgetting. :'( Hopes slowly disappearing.
Into Darkness was so bad i'm pretty amazed it has a fresh rating. The first one I gave a pass because I thought it had some good qaulities to it.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 21, 2016, 02:12:34 PM
You're forgetting that the other two had fresh ratings as well.
What was wrong with the other 2? I never was a huge Star Trek fan, more Star Wars, but the last 2 Star Treks looked amazing in the theater! Going to see this one too! I like all the actors too. The Space scenes and exoplanets all look super. It's like they took out the geekiness and inserted coolness lol.
Quote from: Nostromo on Jul 21, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 21, 2016, 02:12:34 PM
You're forgetting that the other two had fresh ratings as well.
What was wrong with the other 2? I never was a huge Star Trek fan, more Star Wars, but the last 2 Star Treks looked amazing in the theater! Going to see this one too! I like all the actors too. The Space scenes and exoplanets all look super. It's like they took out the geekiness and inserted coolness lol.
I personally only have a few issues with them.
ST 09 was a great reboot of the series. It took the series into a new direction and I'm glad that it did. The series was kinda dead for a while after Enterprise ended and Nemesis. The original series is still on DVD, Blu-Ray and other streaming websites. It's not like JJ was like "Everything from the original series is gone! You have to deal with my Star Trek for now and forever!".
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 21, 2016, 05:40:53 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Jul 21, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 21, 2016, 02:12:34 PM
You're forgetting that the other two had fresh ratings as well.
What was wrong with the other 2? I never was a huge Star Trek fan, more Star Wars, but the last 2 Star Treks looked amazing in the theater! Going to see this one too! I like all the actors too. The Space scenes and exoplanets all look super. It's like they took out the geekiness and inserted coolness lol.
I personally only have a few issues with them.
It's the little things that mounted up -
Building the Enterprise on the Earth.
Making Kirk first officer.
Letting Kirk keep the Enterprise.
Spock being on a planet close enough to see Vulcan's destruction that easily.
Marooning Kirk on said planet that can't be far off dying itself.
The whole Khan secret.
Khan putting his crew in torpedoes.
Warp travel time.
etc
Must resist reading up any more on the film. Just spoiled something because I'm impatient. :'(
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 22, 2016, 07:54:13 AM
It's the little things that mounted up -
Building the Enterprise on the Earth.
Making Kirk first officer.
Letting Kirk keep the Enterprise.
Spock being on a planet close enough to see Vulcan's destruction that easily.
Marooning Kirk on said planet that can't be far off dying itself.
The whole Khan secret.
Khan putting his crew in torpedoes.
Warp travel time.
etc
Don't forget Kirk's totally unprofessional and unrealistic behavior for who he is, I mean like you said who in their right mind would honestly let him keep the Enterprise
the flag-ship of the Federation?
Quote from: Nostromo on Jul 21, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 21, 2016, 02:12:34 PM
You're forgetting that the other two had fresh ratings as well.
What was wrong with the other 2? I never was a huge Star Trek fan, more Star Wars, but the last 2 Star Treks looked amazing in the theater! Going to see this one too! I like all the actors too. The Space scenes and exoplanets all look super. It's like they took out the geekiness and inserted coolness lol.
That's kinda the problem they just don't really have a identity anymore.
Saw this today. Not sure how I felt really. Plot was simplistic and it did feel like a TOS episode which I guess was always the idea. But the villain was weak and his motivations not strong enough for me. Plus the unrealistic action scenes and overblown CG were not particular engaging. Also the Beastie Boys thing from the trailer has not gone away and directly copied Mars Attacks of all things! I must admit I expected more from a script by Simon Pegg.
That said, there are some excellent character moments and the cast just nail these characters every time. Urban as always is excellent and Pine looks more like Shatner every time. Pegg clealry knows his stuff in terms of lore and there are multiple prime references and fans of 'Enterprise' will certainly appreciate some of the call backs. The tribute to Leonard Nimoy is subtle and respectful and without meaning to joke, logical. There's a bit right at the end that if your a fan of the original series will certainly make something go wrong with your eyes. The same goes for Anton Yelchin. A minor edit was made at the end as a tribute to him and this also works.
Overall it's as silly as the first two but enjoyable nonetheless. But as a 50 year celebration I feel they could have done so much more with this.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jul 22, 2016, 08:35:49 PM
Saw this today. Not sure how I felt really. Plot was simplistic and it did feel like a TOS episode which I guess was always the idea. But the villain was weak and his motivations not strong enough for me. Plus the unrealistic action scenes and overblown CG were not particular engaging. Also the Beastie Boys thing from the trailer has not gone away and directly copied Mars Attacks of all things! I must admit I expected more from a script by Simon Pegg.
That said, there are some excellent character moments and the cast just nail these characters every time. Urban as always is excellent and Pine looks more like Shatner every time. Pegg clealry knows his stuff in terms of lore and there are multiple prime references and fans of 'Enterprise' will certainly appreciate some of the call backs. The tribute to Leonard Nimoy is subtle and respectful and without meaning to joke, logical. There's a bit right at the end that if your a fan of the original series will certainly make something go wrong with your eyes. The same goes for Anton Yelchin. A minor edit was made at the end as a tribute to him and this also works.
Overall it's as silly as the first two but enjoyable nonetheless. But as a 50 year celebration I feel they could have done so much more with this.
This. It's biggest weakness is the villain which Is a shame when you have someone like Elba playing him. Especially the whole "here let me show you around the place and what I'm doing". That and you never get the feeling that there's an entire enterprise crew marooned on the planet. The whole controversy with sulu is stupid it's all over and done with in about 15 seconds and was lovely
I like it better than Into Darkness, but I still enjoy the 2009 film a bit more. I was surprise how good this movie was. It did start off a bit slow, but this movie did felt like a classic TOS episode (for the most part) in my opinion.
Saw it today.
Spoiler
Liked the first 20 and final 20 minutes. The rest was on some avatar type of planet which sucked ass. Too simplistic and too much running around like cavemen instead of more space scenes..very naive story. I'd have warped out of that first space battle the moment someone told me our weapons aren't doing any damage. 5.7/10
My Trek Movie rankings:
Wrath of Khan
First Contact
The Voyage Home
Star Trek 09
Beyond
The Undiscovered Country
The Search for Spock
Into Darkness
Generations
The Final Frontier
The Motion Picture
Nemesis
Insurrection
Latest episode of my show is up on podbean. Our review of Star Trek Beyond should be ready in a few hours.
William Shatner and the Enterprise crew return to action only to blow up God in the much maligned Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. Set your phasers to fun as Gareth and Andy ask whether Star Trek V: So Very Tired proves that anything Nimoy can do, can Shatner do better? Spoilers: It doesn't.
http://bestforgottenmovies.podbean.com/e/36-star-trek-v-the-final-frontier
https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/756974219322273792
Looks like it was taken straight out of the Phase 2 concept art. So curious to find out more details.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/new-star-trek-discovery-show-launches-january-2017/
The Discover looks like the nx enterprise and the Ktinga class had a baby
And the award for worst Trek series title goes to...
Named after the ship...nothing wrong with that.
Star Trek Voyager
Star Trek Enterprise
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Trend there.
Discovery just sounds weak, like one of those IMAX shows you see at museums.
So I went on Friday and then again on Sunday to watch in 4DX!!!! because the Mrs has been wanting to go to something in that for a whole (moving seats, air blowing in your face, water, etc). From my 2 viewings it's definitely above the 09 and STID for me so far.
Spoiler
The story was simpler but it worked because it wasn't some convoluted mess. Despite it being very fun and actiony, it also felt very character focused which was a strength. The actors are great and the characters moments in the previous 2 were the best things they offered so it worked keeping a degree of focus on that.
Krall...I'm not sold on. Someone mentioned the whole walk and show you my plans thing. Yeah....very rookie. I can kind of see where they were trying to go with him (and it was really cool for mention of the Xindi and Romulan War though I'm not sure it all works timeline wise) but just felt a little pedestrian.
I absolutely loved the Yorktown. When I first heard that name come up in relation to Trek I thought it was going to be a ship ala the Yorktown becoming the Ent-A but I really dug the spacestation. Very very different but it worked really well for me.
The only thing that I found genuinely annoying was the editing in the action scenes. Too rapid and hectic. Struggled to tell what was happening sometimes. I also thought the way they defeat the swarm to be a bit...."what?"
Just hope the Enterprise-A manages to make it through the next movie!
I hope Discovery isn't another prequel series. Most fans want to see post-nemesis and not new 22nd/23rd Century stories. Why would they think prequel stories are especially appealing to their viewers instead of giving fans what they want.
I would prefer to see a series that is set in the late 25th Century or later, which introduces new technology, new species and maybe the exploration of another galaxy. If it's just again old stuff they kill the excitement for a lot of people... I know i'm not alone!
Personally I'd rather a Romulan War series.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 25, 2016, 12:28:26 PM
Personally I'd rather a Romulan War series.
The danger about this could be if it doesn't live up to all our expectations it could end up in collective memory like the star wars prequels.
Saw this yesterday, it was ok. Quite fun but didn't wow me in any way. The interaction between characters was nice.
Well this was miles better then into darkness. Enjoyed Krall thought the villain was interesting. Nod to nimoys death was nice and had tear in my eye plus nice nod to the prime cast. the Yorktown station was a interesting design tho why build it so close to a uncharted nebula you would think the fed would have charted it first. Shame theirs isnt much design difference between the enterprise and the enterprise A
So is Krall's technology going to go ignored for the Federation? They seriously need to beef up their shield technology.
https://www.inverse.com/article/18757-how-star-trek-changed-visual-effects-history?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=inverse&utm_campaign=organic
Fun article about vfx in Trek.
Beyond is the best film I've seen this year.
Was super fun and really well made. Props to the writing of Pegg, he really brought new life into this Trek timeline.
Also cool that you can watch JJ's first Trek, skip over Into Darkness and go straight to this one.
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 25, 2016, 08:03:20 PM
So is Krall's technology going to go ignored for the Federation? They seriously need to beef up their shield technology.
It was mining equipment, just like in the first movie the bad guy's ship was a mining ship.
They need to tone down mining equipment technology. Some one needs to have a meeting with mining equipment making companies and tell them to tone it down.
Quote from: Alien³ on Aug 03, 2016, 07:34:22 AM
Props to the writing of Pegg,
What writing?
This was a series of action scenes and jokes tied together. We only got a reason why this whole thing is happening near the end of the film.
There was barely a plot in this movie.
Only if the plot is limited to the villain.
Or writing is limited to plot.
Which it isn't. On either case.
Quote from: Gazz on Aug 04, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Only if the plot is limited to the villain.
Or writing is limited to plot.
Which it isn't. On either case.
The whole reason the events of the movie are happening is because of the villain.
And nothing is clearly told about the villain until near the end of the movie.
You are just running around blind looking at random action scenes and little joke breaks. Breaks that i guess are fine to people that never seen a Trek episode or movie but to the people that have a passing knowledge of it bring nothing new.
Bones is very direct, ahahahahaha! Yeah, we havent seen this a million times.
Spock does some Vulcan stuff that leads to a joke, ahhahhahahha-mega old.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Aug 03, 2016, 07:45:26 AM
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 25, 2016, 08:03:20 PM
So is Krall's technology going to go ignored for the Federation? They seriously need to beef up their shield technology.
It was mining equipment, just like in the first movie the bad guy's ship was a mining ship.
They need to tone down mining equipment technology. Some one needs to have a meeting with mining equipment making companies and tell them to tone it down.
Mining equipment capable of crippling fleets of ships and stripping shields away like wet paper. Last time the Federation sucked this hard they were trying to fight the Borg.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Aug 04, 2016, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Aug 04, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Only if the plot is limited to the villain.
Or writing is limited to plot.
Which it isn't. On either case.
The whole reason the events of the movie are happening is because of the villain.
Yes, which makes him a functioning
part of the plot.
I really liked it. It's a lot of fun. Just as fast paced and energetic as the first two with a fantastic cast. It has a much more focused story compared to Into Darkness and in a way is the kind of sequel I imagine people anticipated to begin with.
With Yelchin's untimely passing I wouldn't mind if Alice Eve returned to take his place onboard the Enterprise. It seemed like she was set to join the ensemble at the end of the previous film anyway but is curiously absent here.
Spoiler
My only real complaint with Beyond is how they approached the villain, Krall. He's essentially a fusion of the two previous villains (Khan, Admiral Marcus) and it doesn't come across anymore satisfying here. Before the twist he's very menacing but after it's like, "That's it? That's what he's supposed to be?"
That said I wouldn't mind if Justin Lin and Simon Pegg returned to direct and co-write the next film.
Quote from: Gilfryd on Aug 10, 2016, 04:04:42 AM
With Yelchin's untimely passing I wouldn't mind if Alice Eve returned to take his place onboard the Enterprise. It seemed like she was set to join the ensemble at the end of the previous film anyway but is curiously absent here.
They had nothing for her to do in Beyond apparently. It'd be nice to see her return though. I'm kind of hoping we see this guy show up though!
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QuoteThat said I wouldn't mind if Justin Lin and Simon Pegg returned to direct and co-write the next film.
Same. I really enjoyed this one. I'd just like a better thought out villain next time around. I think Beyond was a major step-up over the last 2 (I did enjoy the reboot, don't get me wrong! But many of the specifics infuriate me.)
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/08/bryan-fuller-teases-star-trek-discovery-alien-makeup/
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Is Andorian too obvious?
^
I'm hoping to see Lieutenant M'ress show up. Mrow!
It'd be awesome to see how a modern live action Star Trek would portray her.
I was kind of disappointed by the Caitians in one of the recent films though, the two Kirk was banging were basically just human chicks with funky long tails. I want a giant humanoid cat damn it! (No, not in that "scene", I meant like a character that serves a purpose in the overall story.)
It'd be nice to see some of the actual Kztini conflict. The Caitans are the Kztini, right? Or am I misremembering.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/08/bryan-fuller-reveals-long-awaited-star-trek-discovery-details/
Some new Discovery details. Sounds like the show wont be focusing on the captain.
Just another prequel, boldly going where everyone has gone before. [emoji12]
Will we ever have a trek show going forward again? [emoji20]
Quote from: Doctor Ash on Aug 11, 2016, 08:56:30 AM
Just another prequel, boldly going where everyone has gone before. [emoji12]
Will we ever have a trek show going forward again? [emoji20]
I have to agree while I like that period in time because the Klingons of course. but by doing this they are bascially chaining themselves to a Steel Pole as the ability for some truly unique and interesting stuff now has to be cut off generally
Want to do something with the Gorn? nope can't do that.
Want to do something with a new Klingon War? Nope can't do that.
Add on the fact that no matter how close they may try, the higher production values and general stuff will clash with the original series hard.
I mean was it too much to just set the series a few decades after "TNG"? if not a 100 than how about 50 or even 30 years post "TNG".
But
nooo it has to be 10 years before the Original Series..
The Federation probably wouldn't last that long with Janeway as an admiral.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 11, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
The Federation probably wouldn't last that long with Janeway as an admiral.
Now you know why the Enterprize seems to be the only ship they have. :D
I don't think there's anything wrong with a prequel. Just depends entirely on what story they want to tell. Personally I would have preferred something set in the Lost Era or focused on the Romulan War. As long as they have something interesting to put across to me.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2016, 08:08:01 AM
I don't think there's anything wrong with a prequel. Just depends entirely on what story they want to tell. Personally I would have preferred something set in the Lost Era or focused on the Romulan War. As long as they have something interesting to put across to me.
I hope that we see at last the Sheliak again and maybe the Grizzelas, as the treaty of Armens was signed in 2255...
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2016, 07:36:15 AM
It'd be nice to see some of the actual Kztini conflict. The Caitans are the Kztini, right? Or am I misremembering.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/08/bryan-fuller-reveals-long-awaited-star-trek-discovery-details/
Some new Discovery details. Sounds like the show wont be focusing on the captain.
The Kzinti are actually a race that didn't originate from Star Trek. They were created by Larry Niven for his "Known Space" novel series.
But he did add them to Star Trek, he's the guy who wrote that episode in the animated series featuring the Kzinti. They seem to have liked them very much and have accepted them into ST canon.
I have a dream that one day... Predators will hunt Klingons... and it will be canon damn it! ;D
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Aug 12, 2016, 02:22:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2016, 07:36:15 AM
It'd be nice to see some of the actual Kztini conflict. The Caitans are the Kztini, right? Or am I misremembering.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/08/bryan-fuller-reveals-long-awaited-star-trek-discovery-details/
Some new Discovery details. Sounds like the show wont be focusing on the captain.
The Kzinti are actually a race that didn't originate from Star Trek. They were created by Larry Niven for his "Known Space" novel series.
But he did add them to Star Trek, he's the guy who wrote that episode in the animated series featuring the Kzinti. They seem to have liked them very much and have accepted them into ST canon.
I have a dream that one day... Predators will hunt Klingons... and it will be canon damn it! ;D
And Worf will get his ass kicked as usual.
Can't stop laughing at this (http://epicgeordi.ytmnd.com/). :laugh:
Haha!!!!!! ;D That f**king roll. I used to do it all the time as a kid.
Going to watch Beyond again tonight, fit it in one last time before its done at cinema. Danny Pudi was apparently in the film. Gotta try and spot him!
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^Not actually true.
Bold statement.
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 27, 2016, 07:43:04 PM
Bold statement.
QuoteHey Mr. Goldsmith, thanks for doing this AMA. I am just curious, having once been a red-shirted ensign on Star Trek (the Original Series), how does it feel to now be playing a cooler character than even James T. Kirk? Do you get stopped on the street often? Stay Thirsty My Friend!
Let me set the record straight... I have never appeared on Star Trek, if I remember correctly that is, which is always dubious.
http://interviewly.com/i/jonathan-goldsmith-aug-2013-reddit
https://twitter.com/hollyamos22/status/719002557981466624
Okay then. :)
Sorry if I offend any nerds but who the hell is Holly Amos? I saw some jokes that she was the data of voyager but... didn't really pay attention to that one. Meaning, how does she know?
{"Hey Mr. Goldsmith, thanks for doing this AMA. I am just curious, having once been a red-shirted ensign on Star Trek (the Original Series), how does it feel to now be playing a cooler character than even James T. Kirk? Do you get stopped on the street often? Stay Thirsty My Friend!"
"Let me set the record straight... I have never appeared on Star Trek, if I remember correctly that is, which is always dubious."}
Damn even the guy himself is unsure. :P
Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 28, 2016, 08:00:23 AM
Sorry if I offend any nerds
Sorry could not resist lol.
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Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 28, 2016, 08:00:23 AM
Stay Thirsty My Friend!"
"Let me set the record straight... I have never appeared on Star Trek, if I remember correctly that is, which is always dubious."}
Damn even the guy himself is unsure. :P
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He speaks Klingon, in Vulcan.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 28, 2016, 08:00:23 AM
who the hell is Holly Amos?
It says on her profile. Works for startrek.com Professional Trekspert at @CBS.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Aug 29, 2016, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 28, 2016, 08:00:23 AM
who the hell is Holly Amos?
It says on her profile. Works for startrek.com Professional Trekspert at @CBS.
Yep... I had no idea how deep this Trekkie hole went. She is boring.
50 years today!
Beyond was finally released in my country.
And sadly, I have to give it a 5/10 rating :/
The movie is practically a remake of the last film, or perhaps both previous moves. It sticks way too much to the "space action" thing and everything else's pretty much inconsequential. It doesn't even have a topic. The movie doesn't bring anything new or interesting to the saga and if it didn't exist, nothing would have changed.
They have to change the formula in order to stay relevant, because seriously, and will I absolutely ADORED the first movie, they're aiming too low, and they've never gone beyond that :/
I'm hugely disappointed :/ I think this is one of the most disappointing years in blockbusters to me... Apocalypse... Suicide Squad... Beyond... all of them failed me -.-
How is it anything like the last film? Into Darkness was mostly set on Earth, and it being a political thriller type story. Kirk and the crew hadn't even done any deep space exploration at that point.
Quote from: Magegg on Sep 12, 2016, 04:08:20 AM
The movie is practically a remake of the last film, or perhaps both previous moves. It sticks way too much to the "space action" thing and everything else's pretty much inconsequential. It doesn't even have a topic. The movie doesn't bring anything new or interesting to the saga and if it didn't exist, nothing would have changed.
Do not see this at all. Can you elaborate?
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/09/star-trek-discovery-sets-new-course-for-may-2017/
Discovery delayed at request of Fuller.
I'm glad. Better to get it right than rush to meet an arbitrary deadline. It's been more than a decade, I can wait a few extra months. :)
Completely agree. I'd rather they take their time.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 12, 2016, 10:04:54 AM
Quote from: Magegg on Sep 12, 2016, 04:08:20 AM
The movie is practically a remake of the last film, or perhaps both previous moves. It sticks way too much to the "space action" thing and everything else's pretty much inconsequential. It doesn't even have a topic. The movie doesn't bring anything new or interesting to the saga and if it didn't exist, nothing would have changed.
Do not see this at all. Can you elaborate?
The movie doesn't have a topic. It's not though-provoking. The villain is as simple as possible "I'm a warrior and I want to make war". There's no interesting science-fiction plot points either. There's not an IDEA behind the movie. It's completely plain and action-based.
Also, compare with Into Darkness:
Spoiler
- Same plot devices. There's an apparent colleague in distress that sends them off in a mission, and is actually a traitor.
- Ends up with a villain crashing into a city of a planet and they have to stop it before it destroys everything.
The plot is bland as hell. It just doesn't add anything to the franchise, it doesn't change anything, everything's back at the same status quo, it's just another brainless adventure. We could simply wipe it off of history and nothing would have changed.
Quote from: Magegg on Sep 15, 2016, 04:01:56 PM
The movie is practically a remake of the last film, or perhaps both previous moves. It sticks way too much to the "space action" thing and everything else's pretty much inconsequential. It doesn't even have a topic. The movie doesn't bring anything new or interesting to the saga and if it didn't exist, nothing would have changed.
It's amazing how we all have our tastes and different point on views on things. :)
I have to agree with most of this assessment on the new Star Trek movie. I'm probably just p!ssed off because the whole movie took place on a boring jungle bunny planet and not enough Space scenes or a more captivating storyline. It was really a straightforward bad guy come and get me if you can type of movie, but that's just my opinion. However, I absolutely loved both Star Trek (2009) and Star Trek into Darkness. I thought both movies had great scenes and good stories...Go figure...everyone's different.
Star Trek 2009 9/10
Star Trek Into Darkness 8.5/10
Star Trek Beyond The Jungle Planet 5/10
Yeah. It's a matter of tastes. I absolutely loved Star Trek (2009) [10/10 in my scale] and I thought Into Darkness was way too boring and absurd but I thought it was just only a little misstep.
Now, Beyond proves to me they're simply repeating the same formula over and over again, and not going beyond that. The series would have to reinvent itself in order to get my attention again...
Quote from: Magegg on Sep 15, 2016, 05:46:20 PM
Yeah. It's a matter of tastes. I absolutely loved Star Trek (2009) [10/10 in my scale] and I thought Into Darkness was way too boring and absurd but I thought it was just only a little misstep.
Now, Beyond proves to me they're simply repeating the same formula over and over again, and not going beyond that. The series would have to reinvent itself in order to get my attention again...
I also found it a bit too mainstream, with a lot of pointless comedy and barely any real talk about Scientific stuff, etc... I blame everything on JJ Abrams again lol. His movies are starting to look like some kind of watered down crap, not sure why one person is directing 2 huge franchises at the same time...Star Wars and Star Trek...good luck with that.
Abrams didn't direct this one.
Quote from: Nostromo on Sep 15, 2016, 05:52:26 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Sep 15, 2016, 05:46:20 PM
Yeah. It's a matter of tastes. I absolutely loved Star Trek (2009) [10/10 in my scale] and I thought Into Darkness was way too boring and absurd but I thought it was just only a little misstep.
Now, Beyond proves to me they're simply repeating the same formula over and over again, and not going beyond that. The series would have to reinvent itself in order to get my attention again...
I also found it a bit too mainstream, with a lot of pointless comedy and barely any real talk about Scientific stuff, etc... I blame everything on JJ Abrams again lol. His movies are starting to look like some kind of watered down crap, not sure why one person is directing 2 huge franchises at the same time...Star Wars and Star Trek...good luck with that.
Abrams didn't direct this one, and also he is off Star Wars after TFA.
Abrams is a great science fiction director. However I feel the problem from Into Darkness stemmed less from him, and more of being forced to follow the demands of the company that wanted a checklist of things they felt would guarantee an automatic success that didn't turn out that way. For his work on Star Trek 2009 and the seamless blending of the old timeline with the new, and giving us a new look at the characters earns my respect. As long as future directors stay close to what Abrams established, along with the core values of Star Trek, we should get more good movies.
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/778344978732969984
Alright, somebody explain this movie to me. Was it really just a dude with severe ptsd?
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 21, 2016, 11:32:18 PM
Alright, somebody explain this movie to me. Was it really just a dude with severe ptsd?
Just eat your popcorn and enjoy the bright lights.
Quote from: Magegg on Sep 22, 2016, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 21, 2016, 11:32:18 PM
Alright, somebody explain this movie to me. Was it really just a dude with severe ptsd?
Just eat your popcorn and enjoy the bright lights.
Actually, I enjoyed the considerable lack of lens flare in this one. I checked my logic senses at the door but I mean, seriously, it was just a dude with brain damage and vice admiral my ass. Hell they should have forced Kirk into taking the promotion. The enterprise does more damage than an army of buddy cops driving a nuclear powered aircraft carrier with wheels could ever do.
Just saw Star Trek Beyond.
It started off entertaining and i thought ok this is gonna be nice...
Not to go into spoilers.
But it was kinda like the second movie but altered,
crew gets a few punches, struggles and get back up, defeat bad guy in a very cheap way.
I hoped that the guy/race was Jem hadar and i hoped maybe they put in some Borg or something from the universe,
but NO!
I find the script again very lacking as its much more concentrated on action and the Beastie Boys ;)
I really really liked the first one, i really do think its a classic sci fi although it doesnt has the "real" Star Trek feel/approach,
its just a good movie.
But these last two are inferior in many ways, i miss the passion of a Star Trek director/writer or whatever those guys are called who make these movies.
And Kirk is ok, but its also ok to end the movie when Kirk fails and although he lives its ok to let him fail,
because thats the real Kirk, a reckless roughneck who could take a few punches but also give some but not always wins.
Picard is more of the successor imo.
Would also be cool to have a small cameo from Voyager and the crew, where the Enterprise comes to aid the Voyager who is in a fight with an unknown vessel and when they arrive its a Borg cube and after a while they destroy it together and Voyager gets sucked into a vortex and voila, all these small things that could happen in a movie like this makes it all more interesting.
But now its just a simple action movie.
All this makes me wanna go and save on DS9 seasons and Voyager, i remember DS9 was pretty damn good back then.
Quote from: Infected on Oct 02, 2016, 10:18:39 AM
Would also be cool to have a small cameo from Voyager and the crew, where the Enterprise comes to aid the Voyager who is in a fight with an unknown vessel and when they arrive its a Borg cube [...]
There are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions...
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Oct 02, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
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Would also be cool to have a small cameo from Voyager and the crew, where the Enterprise comes to aid the Voyager who is in a fight with an unknown vessel and when they arrive its a Borg cube [...]
There are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions...
:laugh: I'm finding myself disagreeing with a lot of the Beyond opinions so far.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 03, 2016, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Oct 02, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Infected on Oct 02, 2016, 10:18:39 AM
Would also be cool to have a small cameo from Voyager and the crew, where the Enterprise comes to aid the Voyager who is in a fight with an unknown vessel and when they arrive its a Borg cube [...]
There are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions...
:laugh: I'm finding myself disagreeing with a lot of the Beyond opinions so far.
I'm not reading back into the thread. So did you like it or not? I thought it was ok but once again, it doesn't have that star trek mojo. It's watch it once material.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 03, 2016, 09:59:12 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 03, 2016, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Oct 02, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Infected on Oct 02, 2016, 10:18:39 AM
Would also be cool to have a small cameo from Voyager and the crew, where the Enterprise comes to aid the Voyager who is in a fight with an unknown vessel and when they arrive its a Borg cube [...]
There are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions, there are no wrong opinions...
:laugh: I'm finding myself disagreeing with a lot of the Beyond opinions so far.
I'm not reading back into the thread. So did you like it or not? I thought it was ok but once again, it doesn't have that star trek mojo. It's watch it once material.
Yes agree 100%
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/791419551841943552
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Fingers crossed that it's to make room for a Hannibal revival. ;D
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 03, 2016, 09:59:12 AM
So did you like it or not? I thought it was ok but once again, it doesn't have that star trek mojo. It's watch it once material.
I really enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect (villain) but otherwise I really dug it. I thought it felt much more like Star Trek than the previous films.
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 26, 2016, 11:57:35 PM
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/791419551841943552
Gutted to hear but at least he'll still have a hand in it.
I really liked what IDW did with Star Trek Boldly Go. They finally showed Planet Scooping and what would have been the fate of the Enterprise-D if Q hadn't brought them back where they where before.
And there is no instant assimilation, as in First Contact and Voyager. The Borg are more choosy about who they assimilate.
Finally a comic that shows the Borg as they were meant to be during TNG.
I'm still working my way through the old Ongoing comics before I go to Boldy Go. So they've had the Kelvin-verse crew meet the Borg?
Yes. Kirk and his crew are serving on different ships after the destruction of the Enterprise. One of the ships, on which Sulu is serving has the bad luck of encountering the Borg. The Borg dissect that ship. Kirk's ship gets the emergency call and finds what remains of the other ship. Sulu is one of the survivors and in a bad condition. He tells Kirk what has happened and the fun begins...
Oh man...and it's actually good?
It's great! No First Contact Space Zombies but real Borg. I really wonder how they will stop them, as there is no Data?
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/801264543854755841
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 23, 2016, 03:45:02 AM
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/801264543854755841
Well she won't need phasers to fight.
I dig that. Nice to finally hear some casting news! Thinking about it, I don't really know who I'd like to see cast. Any ideas?
Quote from: Doctor Ash on Nov 20, 2016, 07:02:34 PM
It's great! No First Contact Space Zombies but real Borg. I really wonder how they will stop them, as there is no Data?
Likely outsmart them, a la Data at the end of First Contact.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2016, 08:27:18 AM
I dig that. Nice to finally hear some casting news! Thinking about it, I don't really know who I'd like to see cast. Any ideas?
Yeah, myself...if only my agent could connect me, damn it...
Michelle Yeoh's character is actually not a member of the Discovery's crew. Instead, Yeoh plays Han Bo, Captain of the (presumably Federation) starship Shenzhou, a vessel that apparently plays a prominent role in the first season of the show.
QuoteSources close to the production tell us exclusively that Yeoh actually will be the leader of another ship. We hear that Yeoh has been cast as Han Bo and her ship is the Shenzhou. The Yeoh-run spacecraft is set to play a big role in Discovery's first season.
'Star Trek: Discovery' Casts Michelle Yeoh In Captain Role (http://deadline.com/2016/11/star-trek-discovery-michelle-yeoh-cast-captain-1201859554/)
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Quote from: Doctor Ash on Nov 20, 2016, 07:02:34 PM
It's great! No First Contact Space Zombies but real Borg. I really wonder how they will stop them, as there is no Data?
Likely outsmart them, a la Data at the end of First Contact.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2016, 08:27:18 AM
I dig that. Nice to finally hear some casting news! Thinking about it, I don't really know who I'd like to see cast. Any ideas?
Yeah, myself...if only my agent could connect me, damn it...
I just wonder how they will do it, as you might need an positronic brain connected to a borg drone to induce comments into the collective mind of the borg, a la Data did with Locutus with the sleep command. Connecting via mind meld could just get a vulcan overwhelmed and defeated, because of the power of the borg consciousness.
And if it were possible to use the ship computer for a connection, i guess the crew of the Enterprise-D wouldn't have Data risk his life in BOBW.
By the way i guess the romulans might get screwed again, as what we've seen of the plot till now reminds me a lot of Maurice Hurley's original plans for TNG, where a single borg scout ship was supposed to eradicate the romulan star empire...
I guess it sucks to be romulan in all possible quantum realities of star trek, as they seem to be fated for destruction.
Poor Rommies...
Star Trek Beyond (2016)
The voyages of the starship Enterprise in this rebooted, alternate timeline continue. Three years into its five year mission the crew reach Yorktown space station, a large fancy looking hub with a stupid name. James T. Kirk grows tired of life in space, Spock has split with Uhura, Sulu has reunited with his family and is apparently gay now, Spock Prime has died and Scotty just continues to fix stuff. Its a veritable soap opera in space and we're no closer to seeing any whales it seems.
So what should happen next? why a rescue mission of course (stupid question). A ship (the USS Franklin) is supposedly crashed and stranded on a planet (Altamid) which is inside a nebula, according to a lone survivor in a drifting escape pod. So like the good little bunch of humanitarians they are the crew blast off into said nebula to assist. Not long after entering the nebula the crew find they are unable to stay in contact with Yorktown, communications down, hmmm smells like a tra...oh. Yep before you can quote a Rebel Admiral from another sci-fi fantasy flick the Enterprise comes under attack from a vast swam of small ships. These ships are able to completely destroy the Enterprise, but not before the crew can escape to the planet below and we meet the antagonist Krall (Idris Elba). Long story short, Krall is after a mcguffin which is part of a super weapon that can kill people very easily. Oh and he wants to wipe out Yorktown with it, bet you didn't see that coming huh.
This movie really started off badly in my opinion. The opening mini plot with Kirk off on a diplomatic mission to offer the mcguffin to this alien race was, for all intense and purposes, crap. The whole sequence looked crap, the CGI aliens were crap, Pine's acting against the CGI aliens was crap, it wasn't funny even though it was really trying to be, and in general it just looked like something from a mock Star Trek picture (like 'Galaxy Quest'). Then as we progress further, the initial trap and space battle that sees the Enterprise torn apart was also pretty ropy looking in my opinion. When I say ropy I mean it just looked like a messy cluster of CGI nonsense. Hundreds of tiny CGI spaceships zooming around in large CGI swarms like little flies or tiny birds, laser blasts everywhere, everything moving quicker than you can comprehend...ugh! Basically its hard to make out what's going on because so much was happening on the screen, and it all looked CGI.
The planet that the crew find themselves stuck on for a large portion of the movie just happens to be a lush, green, Endor-like world with a breathable atmosphere. Also, Kirk and co just happen to come across a sexy female alien with alluring body art, oh and she just happens to be an expert in martial arts, weapons and has converted the USS Franklin into her home. Said Starfleet ship also just happens to be the same ship that houses all the secrets to Krall and his followers, and it just so happens to have a motorbike on board too. Gee I'll bet my bottom Dollar that will come in handy at some point...probably for an action sequence of some kind? eh! oh yes. I did find myself wondering just what the hell would a motorbike be doing on a spaceship...I really should know better by now.
Yeah so the bad guy is after the mcguffin weapon thingy which he thinks Kirk has, but Kirk and co are just trying to get off the planet. Krall then finds the mcguffin, explains what its all about to Kirk and co, as you do, and carries on explaining how he's gonna wipe out Yorktown. So now Kirk and co are involved in trying to stop Krall with the help of Jaylah the sexy alien with alluring body art. This obviously leads to a battle between the Starfleet crew and Krall's endless supply of henchmen. Expect lots of laser blasts, leaping around, many moments of deus ex machina, fast quips, boring martial arts and of course...that motorbike.
So anyway eventually the crew manage to escape off Altamid by fixing the USS Franklin, they set off after Krall who's now gone off to destroy Yorktown. We do see a lot of Krall's henchmen on the planet admittedly, but not as many as is indicated by the amount of ships he has at his disposal. Like seriously there must be thousands upon thousands of these tiny ships that make up this swarm. Where the hell did all the pilots come from to fly these ships? Why didn't we see this army on the planet surface? Where did they park all those ships on the planet? How has no one come across this small army until this point?? Secondly, where did Krall get all these ships? How come they are able to penetrate and virtually fly through solid metal?? What on earth are these things made out of?? Its also at this point that the franchise kinda sinks for me. Why? because they use a contemporary rock song to accompany an action sequence in space. Yes its actually a part of the plot but still, for me that is not something you do in a Star Trek movie. I blame this on the director Justin Lin, yeah you can do that all you want in trash like The Fast and Furious franchise, but not in Star Trek thank you.
Well to answer some of those points, as we discover Krall is actually a former pre-Federation soldier and captain (Balthazar Edison) of the USS Franklin on this Endor-like planet. This guy became upset when the Federation was formed because humans essentially made peace with alien enemies and put him out of work. He and his crew were also unlucky enough to get stranded on said planet (through a rogue wormhole apparently) and believed the Federation had abandoned them. Although I'm still not too sure how they were not found up until this point considering the technology and time span we're talking here. This all happened back in the year 2164 I believe, the ship and crew only being discovered in the present Star Trek year of 2263. With this movie being set in the alternate timeline, this would be the alternate series of events for the USS Franklin. Although this ship is new to the franchise I believe so technically it had no original series of events, if you wanna be really picky.
Moving on, Edison and his crew managed to stay alive all this time by utilising the extinct native alien technology that was left behind on the planet. How they worked out how to use this extinct alien technology is anyone's guess. How they even got it to work is another guess because surely an extinct alien races technology might be low on batteries. For some reason said technology gave the crew life but also turned them into powerful mutants? Oh and it also gave Balthazar the power to drain another living organisms life force? Oh and all those henchmen are actually alien drones that he managed to get going and utilise for his indestructible swarm (I guess the ships were the extinct alien races tech too). And why exactly did he change his name to Krall? Because it just sounded like a cool alien name or what? What's the deal with that?
Yes there are lots of amazing factors here, it always takes me time to get my head around these Trekkie plots (especially with the alternate timeline and new additions) but are you even surprised? The timeline in general for this franchise is so bloody convoluted its unreal. I feel like I need to do major research into Trek lore just to understand the basics in these plots because there's so much backstory. Yet despite that aspect, Star Trek has well and truly become an action franchise these days and alas this third movie merely continues that trend. The plot wasn't the labyrinth of time travel the original 2009 reboot was admittedly, but once again it just feels like an extended TV episode. The villain is a bog standard bloke, doesn't really look very unique, usual goals, played poorly by Elba (alien race with cockney accent huh). The crew do their usual thing, the action scenes were bland, bog standard henchmen types, lots of stupid looking brightly coloured aliens, stupid body markings, crappy CGI swarms of spaceships etc...I just didn't feel it with this, the whole thing just felt tired, a paint-by-numbers job. The original 2009 reboot felt fresh and exciting (despite the horrendous time travelling/alternate timeline nonsense), but how quickly that has faded away. I'm starting to think the franchise is really running on empty now.
6/10
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/803694273153486848
Be curious to see what type of Alien Doug is playing. I wonder just how extensive the makeup/costuming is going to be.
Well, it's Trek, so I won't expect anything too out there.
Yeah but you say Doug Jones and you think some pretty heavy makeup effects.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/12/star-trek-discovery-lands-three-klingon-roles/
3 new Klingon characters cast.
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Link (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-27/star-trek-fans-loved-the-queens-christmas-day-cosplay?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=Email&utm_content&utm_campaign=RT+Daily+E-mail+27%2F12%2F2016+12%3A05%3A03_49980_Radio+Times_RadioTimes.com+Newsletter)
Inb4 "She's Dead, Jim."
Some more Discovery casting news and interesting casting - http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/18/star-trek-discovery-spock-premiere-date/
i really hope the new show is good and ulike the new trilogy of movies that are anything but Star Trek, i hope they learn from Star Trek Continues
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/826532048563232768
https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/831269228162355200
Finally got around to watching Star Trek Beyond, and liked it a lot.
Spoiler
Really enjoyed that reveal about the villain. I totally didn't see any of that coming.
Discovery has a captain
https://twitter.com/screencrushnews/status/839170763584331776
What happen to Michelle Yeoh?
Quote from: Vermillion on Mar 08, 2017, 02:00:19 AM
What happen to Michelle Yeoh?
She's the captain of another ship.
Ah yes. Thanks
Really pleased with this casting. I recently watched OA with him in and he was great.
He didn't do so well the last time he went into space... in Event Horizon. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/847906410977480704
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 01, 2017, 12:21:08 AM
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/847906410977480704
That... is surprisingly perfect.
Yeah, I think that's pure brilliance and completely unexpected. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does with Mudd and am curious as to how important the character is going to be.
Mudd's women.
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Happy First Contact Day, folks!
Magic Carpet Ride!!
Not massively exciting but - http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/05/first-star-trek-discovery-production-photo-released/
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http://nextshark.com/new-star-trek-trailer-draws-outrage-arent-enough-white-guys
This is the worst sort of complaining. The whole point of Star Trek is a future where one's biological traits are utterly meaningless as far as their abilities and talents go. I guess these idiots are forgetting why Roddenberry believed in ST in the first place.
Quote from: ace3g on May 17, 2017, 11:01:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dxe_ugmIVM
I know it's got more of a JJ-verse look but I do quite like the looks of this. I'm really curious to see where they go with it.
Trek started to fall apart (viewership/ratings) after it started to blatantly put PC situations in play.
Not subtly like Gene Roddenberry
Trek is formula based. The fans are very wise to it.
Mess it up and they will barf and go back to hanging out at just conventions again.
Seth Macfarlane's new "trek" show is actually going to be better imho
I remember when Star Trek was about "Boldly going where no man has gone before." It was always at its best when it was when it played around with what people viewed as normal and twisted it upon itself to create a moment of self-reflection. Even DS9 with it's high drama and huge story arc managed to do that on a fairly regular basis, because the other factions and species always had their own perspective and narratives that commented on what it is to be human in a subtle manner.
The way this trailer is put together suggests that despite the name of the ship, there will be very little discovering done, and more about dealing with some existential threat.
And one last thing.... WHEN THE HELL WILL STAR TREK GET OUT OF THE PAST? (True fans will know what i mean lol)
:D
V'ger
The chair is against the wall.
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I might just have a dirty mind, but those 2 posters positioned like that seem rather rude lookin'.
I think it's just you mate. :laugh:
Glad they've finally nailed a date down though!
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/877662677971210240
Now that the forum is back up and running again, some new pics.
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Those don't look anything like Klingons. They look closer to the Xindi.
Is this old continuity or the new film one?
Quote from: SM on Jul 17, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
Is this old continuity or the new film one?
I believe it's the old continuity, the Prime Timeline but it seems to have a bit of the Kelvin-verse flare to it.
From what I've read, these are supposed to be some really ancient tribe of Klingon's that got discovered and awoken or something.
It takes place between Enterprise and TOS, so it could easily be in both timelines. I can't figure out star dates for shit, so I can't really say when Nero's arrival takes place.
Nero would've arrived about 20 years before the new Main film events so I guess 10 years before Discovery.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 17, 2017, 08:26:44 PM
Quote from: SM on Jul 17, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
Is this old continuity or the new film one?
I believe it's the old continuity, the Prime Timeline but it seems to have a bit of the Kelvin-verse flare to it.
From what I've read, these are supposed to be some really ancient tribe of Klingon's that got discovered and awoken or something.
what's up with Klingon having old timey people flying around without anyone knowing?
One of the TNG eps with Worf's girl was about this. Voy had an episode with some Klingons that left the Alpha Quadrant a long time ago. I dont remember any DS9 episode like this but there should be one.
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/887440279099252736
http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/07/star-trek-discoverys-klingons-invade-comic-con/
Some prop pictures and stuff from SDCC.
I'm digging a lot of that. I know the look doesn't fit right in with the styles but I don't think they ever will slot back in under TOS. I quite like those ship designs and Isaac is going to be interesting as a captain too.
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This was a special photoshoot right? Not stills from the episodes?
http://www.geekexchange.com/news/breaking-nicholas-meyer-working-on-khan-limited-series/
Khan mini-series?
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Eh, I still would have rather seen Axanar than this.
Why is this a prequel again? It may as well take place after Nemesis given how ridiculously advanced it looks compared to TOS.
As long as it's not another TNG era show. 21 seasons of TV plus four movies was more than enough.
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I'm glad they flattened out the design. I think it works.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 03, 2017, 02:38:23 PM
Why is this a prequel again? It may as well take place after Nemesis given how ridiculously advanced it looks compared to TOS.
Enterprise also looked a little too advanced compared to TOS. I don't think the official releases in this time period will ever return to that kind of asthetic.
Some reactions to the pilot episode from the premiere - http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/09/star-trek-discovery-hollywood-premiere-wrap-up/
https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/19/star-trek-discovery-red-carpet-premiere-live-coverage/
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-premiere-reactions-reviews/
Seems generally positive.
Even if it's good, there's only about 15 people with CBS All Access. :laugh:
To be fair, isn't the piloting airing on actual TV?
Yup. It's on now.
And the two episodes are done.
It was good Trek.
Felt a bit like JJ's first Star Trek movie...complete with lens flares.
They need to up the colour palette substantially. It's to dark. AVPr-ish
Tech is again an issue.
It's light years ahead of Kirk's....but joysticks?
The holographic communiques have to go
Not a Trek thing. That's a Star Wars thing.
Again. Never in any other Trek show.
Nice use of classic Trek sounds though.
It really looks like it takes place between Kirk and Picard. Ship design and uniforms.
Visuals in space and the starships fighting was superb.
No redshirt died. Lol
I caught the first episode this morning before work and eager to go home and watch the rest. I really enjoyed that first episode but aesthetically it does feel more at home in the Kelvin-verse than the Prime timeline.
Saw the first ep.
Liking it a lot so far.
Moar, plz.
The lens flares though
Did they really have to go there.
I really wanted this lighting effect though...
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I found the first episode to be really good and I'll be watching the second episode tonight. But NO WAY am I giving CBS $6 or $10 a month for an app that doesn't even have 5.1 sound! I like the story arc, I like the new look for the Klingons (which I have a feeling will be explained by the genetic disease that DS9 slightly touched on and which Enterprise supposedly resolved).
But seriously, what was CBS thinking, making a very greedy move of hiding a show behind a paywall, a show whose universe is based on the antithesis of greed and corporatism, and where the most disliked species (Ferengi) would even find their tactics distasteful.
And the capper for all this is the fact that Netflix outside the US HAS THE NEW EPISODES. So just screw the American audience that spawned and supported the original show.
Found it pretty dull until maybe the last five minutes of episode 2 when
Spoiler
T'Kuvma and Michelle Yeoh died and Burnham was sentenced to life in prison.
Took a while, but now I'm interested.
In other words...
Wouldn't go that far. But we'll see.
I find her name odd. Michael.
It's a pretty common name.
No. It's not for a human female.
Is it short for Michaela or something else?
A nod to the diversity of Trek?
Or Michael Jackson.
Could be a Fuller thing. He named a woman George in Dead Like Me.
It's very distracting
Obviously I'm not a fan of it.
It's no Robotech.
Only 12 minutes in and this is stupid. :P
Yeah the first scene on the desert planet looked nice but my god it was so clunky.
AND THEY WERN"T WEARING SPACE SUITS ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!?!
:laugh:
Man I don't think this is going to be my cup of tea. Just not feeling the dialog at all. Going to stop it here and maybe give it a chance later.
Quote from: SM on Sep 28, 2017, 12:29:52 AM
Yeah the first scene on the desert planet looked nice but my god it was so clunky.
AND THEY WERN"T WEARING SPACE SUITS ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!?!
Star Trek tradition. It would almost seem weird if they
didn't do that.
You mean like in Wrath of Khan, like only the best Trek EVAR!!1!
Another thing that I though was odd-
Spoiler
Burnham goes in check out whatever the hell it was in the asteroids. a) Major missed opportunity to use one of the jetpacks Spock uses in TMP. b) Why didn't she use one of them pod thingy we see retrieving the beacon?
Ceti Alpha VI was so sandstormy though.
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Ceti Alpha FIVE!!!
True story: I saw TWoK and The Thing for the first time at a drive-in theater in 1982 as a double-feature. That was some goddamn experience. ;D
Best scene ever. Music FTW.
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 28, 2017, 04:27:59 AM
True story: I saw TWoK and The Thing for the first time at a drive-in theater in 1982 as a double-feature. That was some goddamn experience. ;D
Good double feature. Usually they had some hit and some mediocre flick. Though I do recall a Rocky movie on the same bill as Raiders.
Another one I think was Tron and The Watcher In The Woods. We weren't interested in Watcher, but were pumped for Tron. Then after watching it we weren't that interested in Tron either.
Did you dig Star Trek The Motion Picture like I did?
At the time I thought it was kinda cool. With repeated viewings it's a couple of hours of the crew watching TV. Good idea that spends way too long shouting 'LOOK AT THIS COOL EFFECTS SHOT'
Do you still dig it anyway?
Quote from: SM on Sep 28, 2017, 04:22:19 AM
You mean like in Wrath of Khan, like only the best Trek EVAR!!1!
Another thing that I though was odd-
Spoiler
Burnham goes in check out whatever the hell it was in the asteroids. a) Major missed opportunity to use one of the jetpacks Spock uses in TMP. b) Why didn't she use one of them pod thingy we see retrieving the beacon?
Spoiler
But they did! It was just mega redesigned. They called it a thruster pack didn't they?
In regards to B), could it have been due to the dispersal field? I can't recall seeing anyone actually piloting that workerbee thing at the start...but then doesn't Georgio mention piloting one later. Perhaps it would have been too bulky compared to the thruster suit?
Quote from: SM on Sep 28, 2017, 04:25:10 AM
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Ceti Alpha FIVE!!!
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Quote from: SM on Sep 28, 2017, 12:29:52 AM
Yeah the first scene on the desert planet looked nice but my god it was so clunky.
AND THEY WERN"T WEARING SPACE SUITS ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!?!
It reeked of that same mentality behind the stupid water sequence in STID. "It'll look cool!"
I barely remember any of that awful TWoK ripoff.
QuoteSpoiler
But they did! It was just mega redesigned. They called it a thruster pack didn't they?
I was just lefting pondering - why didn't it at least look a bit like the one form TMP.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 28, 2017, 06:56:12 AM
Do you still dig it anyway?
Yeah. I even dig Final Frontier.
Quote from: SM on Sep 28, 2017, 10:38:30 AM
I barely remember any of that awful TWoK ripoff.
I envy you.
QuoteQuoteSpoiler
But they did! It was just mega redesigned. They called it a thruster pack didn't they?
I was just lefting pondering - why didn't it at least look a bit like the one form TMP.
I'd guess same as the other aesthetic changes? Because they wanted something different or modernised or something like that?
Quote
Yeah. I even dig Final Frontier.
Mad man! I think V is the only one (apart from STID) that I've not rewatched countless times.
QuoteI'd guess same as the other aesthetic changes? Because they wanted something different or modernised or something like that?
Prolly.
QuoteMad man! I think V is the only one (apart from STID) that I've not researched countless times.
It needed a couple of more drafts, but Nimoy, Kelley and the Shat were on fire in that flick. I just watch it for their scenes.
I like all the Star Trek movies up to First Contact. The rest don't really do it for me.
The first episode made me legitimately nauseous. The camera keeps wobbling and tilting, changing angles every other second, changing the depth of field, and it's almost always too close to the characters.
Quote from: Scorpio on Sep 28, 2017, 11:58:28 AM
I like all the Star Trek movies up to First Contact. The rest don't really do it for me.
Insurrection I enjoy for what TPTB wanted. Something a little lighter and fun and I think that works. I regularly quote Worf...
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And Nemesis....has its issues but I enjoy all the pew-pew stuff.
The motion picture tried to put too much science into the science-fiction part. The other 5 movies were all great and moved the story of the crew along. The TNG movies were ok as well, even though they had a made for TV-movie feel to them. If they are other movies between that and JJ's, I missed them. However the JJs movies, while decent action films are wholly awful Star Trek movies.
First was good, second was rubbish, third was underwhelming. I think they've done a great job recasting the characters, it's just the stories are a bit naff.
It'd be interesting to me if they could wrap up the new movies by restoring the timeline as they did at end of Yesterday's Enterprise. They could even leave permanent changes like the whole Tasha Yar mess if they don't want to eradicate all traces of the alternate timeline.
I love the time travel stories but I always found them too neat and tidy. Even First Contact there was a stack of people on Earth who'd met time travellers and been exposed to their technology and nothing over the course of the next couple of hundred years was changed?
The other thing with First Contact (which I otherwise really like) is that why did the Borg travel back in time as a last resort? They could've just gone back in time in deep space where no one would see them, warp to Earth and assimilate it before the populous had even started recovering from WW3. No one in the future would be any the wiser.
Quote from: SM on Sep 29, 2017, 02:56:08 AM
The other thing with First Contact (which I otherwise really like) is that why did the Borg travel back in time as a last resort? They could've just gone back in time in deep space where no one would see them, warp to Earth and assimilate it before the populous had even started recovering from WW3. No one in the future would be any the wiser.
And they could still do that now. Hell, go even further back when we really wouldn't stand a chance.
Quote from: SM on Sep 28, 2017, 09:36:00 PM
First was good, second was rubbish, third was underwhelming. I think they've done a great job recasting the characters, it's just the stories are a bit naff.
I really loved Beyond. I thought it felt more like genuine Star Trek than the other 2.
I like the first episodes. They gave the Klingons some fascinating concepts and made them more interesting and charismatic imo. Just wonder what the Kahless clone would have thought about the dishonorable action of T'Kuvma when he destroyed the Admiral's ship...
Oh yeah!
Spoiler
Klingons having cloaking technology already.
I hmmmed at that.
Goddamn it! It just dawned on me Star Trek: Discovery is STD.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 29, 2017, 09:00:09 AM
Oh yeah! Spoiler
Klingons having cloaking technology already.
I hmmmed at that.
Maybe the exchange of cloaking technology and ships with the Romulans happened in the hundred years between Enterprise and Discovery. Would also explain the different ship design. Maybe the Klingon ships are actually romulan...
I don't think the Alliance was supposed to take place until Kirk's era. If I remember rightly (and to be fair, this is an issue with Enterprise too), we weren't supposed to have encountered cloaking technology until Balance of Terror.
In ten years they'll be able to beam to a ship light years away in warp. Could they even do that in TNG?
Yes, that's strange. Especially as it was mentioned in an article, that the producers apparently don't plan to let the Romulans appear because of canon reasons, as the first time Romulans and romulan cloaking technology were seen by the Federation was in Balance of Terror.
I'm puzzled, they are apparently aware of that issue but still introduced the Klingons having cloaking technology at that time...
Quote from: SM on Sep 29, 2017, 10:13:49 AM
In ten years they'll be able to beam to a ship light years away in warp. Could they even do that in TNG?
That's from the Kelvin-verse though, isn't it? And that's a formula that Spock provides from the future of the Prime timeline? Unless that's something they do in TOS that I've completely forgot.
Yeah I guess he did get it from Scotty - but was it ever used? Was Scotty still alive after the transporter beam thing when Spock went back in time? I thought I was fairly well versed in a lot of Trek, but it sounded a bit hokey when Spock brought it up in the first one.
It was interesting that this seemed to be the first time was actually changed via time travel instead of everything being and nice and neat.
Quote from: SM on Sep 29, 2017, 10:28:11 AM
Yeah I guess he did get it from Scotty - but was it ever used? Was Scotty still alive after the transporter beam thing when Spock went back in time? I thought I was fairly well versed in a lot of Trek, but it sounded a bit hokey when Spock brought it up in the first one.
I just Memory Alphaed it and looks like Trek 09 was the first time it was mentioned. As far as we know Scotty was still alive in the Prime timeline after Relics so I'd guess it was something he came up with after Relics and Spock brought back with him. I don't know about the EU, though. Would need to check Beta.
QuoteIt was interesting that this seemed to be the first time was actually changed via time travel instead of everything being and nice and neat.
I really liked this mechanic. I thought it was a decent way to get into these reboots. Thought it was pretty smart.
The Klingon's motivation for the war felt very
"Make America Great Again"-ish
to me.
Anybody else got that vibe?
There's xenophobia there, they dont want to blend with the other races of the federation. They dont want to lose their culture.
They are setting out to unify their people and make "klingons great again".
These scripts were written way before Trump and Brexit...
but it really stuck out to me.
I thought I picked up on the same. I really love Burnham's line of "don't confuse race with culture".
I'm a bit confused by fans who are blaming Michael for starting the war.
Spoiler
She found a klingon. She got attacked by him and she killed it in response.
This was in Federation space and she had a right to self defense.
Then she "tried" to pull a Vulcan Hello..... But Georgiou stopped her.
When she kills K'tuvma, the war has already begun and it's a retaliatory act.
So... How did she start the war? :laugh:
I suppose
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her killing the Torchbearer was the technical justification that KT needed to crack on
. Even if she was justified.
I liked it. It felt very Bad Robot. When they were in the desert in the first episode, it actually reminded me of Rey in the Force Awakens, which I thought was...interesting...given this is Star Trek. The goggles even looked similar. I tutored a girl named Michael once, so her name didn't bother me.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 29, 2017, 11:54:02 AM
I suppose Spoiler
her killing the Torchbearer was the technical justification that KT needed to crack on
Even then, she was just an unwilling pawn in KT's plan :P
the entire federation was.
No arguments there.
Quote from: skhellter on Sep 29, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
The Klingon's motivation for the war felt very
"Make America Great Again"-ish
to me.
Anybody else got that vibe?
There's xenophobia there, they dont want to blend with the other races of the federation. They dont want to lose their culture.
They are setting out to unify their people and make "klingons great again".
These scripts were written way before Trump and Brexit...
but it really stuck out to me.
There was a review on The Guardian that mentioned the Trump angle.
Makes sense, the Klingons have always been a slate to paint different contemporary villains onto.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Sep 29, 2017, 10:48:23 PM
Makes sense, the Klingons have always been a slate to paint different contemporary villains onto.
Yeah, they have. I checked out some Star Trek fan boards and the Klingons are pretty much everything. Some say Trump. Some say North Korea. Some say ISIS or the USSR.
I don't mind their redesign and their new motives, I just can't stand their new voices. At first, I thought they sounded like drowning Ugandans, but then I realized what they were reminding me of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L7VJl76i9U
Quote from: Sabby on Sep 30, 2017, 05:21:43 AM
At first, I thought they sounded like drowning Ugandans
:-X
Edgy
It sounds to me like the fake teeth.
Amanda Grayson cast >>https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/30/exclusive-star-trek-discovery-executive-producers-reveal-who-is-playing-amanda-and-talk-season-2/
Link dead Hicks :(
Updated.
Roger
Oh my god. Mia Kirshner!!!!!
I love her. Holy mofo
I dug the first 2 episodes.
I LOVED the 3rd one, tho. :)
Characters are really hitting their stride...
+
The Discovery is a black ops science vessel... Area 51 in space.
...and its secret mission is strange.. and cool.
I'm hooked.
MOAR, plz.
Great episode. The Alien vibes were aplenty.
Was the ladder Michael was climbing the same kind that was on Nostromo? It sure looked like it.
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I cannot wait for the merch from Discovery to drop. I need one of those toy hand phasers. The new tech is rad.
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 02, 2017, 05:03:05 AM
The Discovery is a black ops science vessel... Area 51 in space.
...and its secret mission is strange.. and cool.
Area 51 in space. Interesting way to describe it and quite apt, I think! I really enjoyed episode 3. I'm intrigued by Lorca and their mission. That said,
Spoiler
I'm sure it will have to fail because of timeline.
Loved the chief engineer too. And that classic style warp core!
There's quite a few different ways to get the Discovery to succeed in their mission
while still preserving continuity.
Spoiler
1- Maybe The Continuum will look at their science project and say "NOPE. This toy is too good for you." And steal every memory of it. Maybe the Federation uses the tech to win the war BUT they lose the tech right afterwards.
2- Or maybe the Klingon will find out about the project and find a way to sabotage it permanently. Via a bioweapon that destroys most of the spores in the galaxy? Because i sure dont remember there being any mention of cosmic spores in the Original Series.
Any of these would be fine. I'm a bit partial to option #2 because it could build some neat spy-drama between the factions.
Part of the interview with Scott.
QuoteI love what I've seen so far. I've only seen half an hour, but it looks incredible. I wonder, though, whether you have mixed feelings about returning to this world, because one of the things about Blade Runner is that it's stood on its own until now.
Umm, yeah. You change over time. At that point I had no interest in ever doing a sequel, that's why I never did a sequel to Alien for another 20 years, and then I thought "Do you know what, I'd better go back to this." Because I'd done two science fiction [films], Alien and Blade Runner, and I felt that that was it. That's enough science fiction for a career. And of course, I never realised that the awakening of the science fiction universe, over many, many films, would get so large. You can't thank Star Wars for that, you can thank, God bless them, Star Trek. You've got all that. It's evolved and made another form of entertainment.
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/ridley-scott/51999/ridley-scott-interview-blade-runner-2049-alien-and-more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdyxwl04kXk
Also was I imaging it or was there a
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Gorn skeleton in Lorca's weird room?
yap
Spoiler
Gorn Skelly, yes.
(https://i.gyazo.com/59a7687aaa12b61fe97f5c156e6692d2.png)
I'm a bit tired of Michael saying "I'm sorry" in every episode so far.
I'm sorry you don't like it.
If one considers the talk about klingon food appearing in the next episode, mentioned in After Trek Episode 1 and the title of it, i guess Saru and the Klingons eating Kelpians may be a plot point...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 03, 2017, 03:18:28 PM
I'm sorry you don't like it.
Internet troll level 50 achieved!
Quote from: Doctor Ash on Oct 03, 2017, 04:47:02 PM
If one considers the talk about klingon food appearing in the next episode, mentioned in After Trek Episode 1 and the title of it, i guess Saru and the Klingons eating Kelpians may be a plot point...
It'll be interesting to see Saru actually come face-to-face with a Klingon or have to fight those instincts.
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 03, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
yap
Spoiler
Gorn Skelly, yes.
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Cool beans! Thought so. :)
I haven't seen episode 3 of Discovery yet, but the first 2 were... really, really awful. Maybe I would like them better if I didn't just now start watching TNG (just started season 4), so I'm only just now starting to get what Star Trek was like, but this Michael person is an awful human being and I honestly hate her, as a lead role and as a person. Her disjointed introduction and sporadic mood shifts certainly didn't help to establish her (she's honestly three different people in the first episode), but the one she seemed to settle on by the end of episode 2 deserved to be imprisoned.
I don't get how everyone rails against Wesley Crusher as the worst character in Star Trek, yet so many people are okay with this seething c**t. Is episode 3 an improvement?
Would you say this show is too SJWish for Star Trek?
No.
About on par for Star Trek?
Quote from: Sabby on Oct 04, 2017, 07:54:49 AM
I don't get how everyone rails against Wesley Crusher as the worst character in Star Trek,
yet so many people are okay with this seething c**t.
If you're the kind of person who uses that horrid language,
then it is no wonder that you dont understand this at all.
I really don't get the dislike of her. She's interesting and as far from a c**t as possible. She was trying to do what was right and committed to that to a flaw. And she's principled enough to accept her punishment. I like that.
Like Ripley in Alien?
Not the immediate comparison I would make but they share some traits, I guess.
Well for female leads she's far more likable than Janeway was.
Isn't it great that a forum based on a series with a decidedly feminist slant has such a lot of female members?
Oh, wait...
The "neckbeards" are strong in these forums.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2017, 06:33:13 PM
Not the immediate comparison I would make but they share some traits, I guess.
Like Alien Covenant, I haven't paid to see it (and won't).
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 04, 2017, 10:02:24 PM
The "neckbeards" are strong in these forums.
The Riddler must be behind it:
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Always loving the generalizations. ::) How very Trekian.
It is, actually.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlanetOfHats
:laugh:
Well, to be fair, I suppose that also speaks for near enough all the alien cultures too :laugh: but you knew the point I was getting at.
Not all Irishmen are drunks?
I've yet to meet a drunk Irishman.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2017, 10:41:00 PM
Well, to be fair, I suppose that also speaks for near enough all the alien cultures too :laugh: but you knew the point I was getting at.
That the term 'seething c**t' was perfectly acceptable?
"Mewling quim" was okay for a PG-13 superhero movie.
Would 'unpleasant individual' have been more acceptable?
Quote from: Sabby on Oct 04, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
Would 'unpleasant individual' have been more acceptable?
Infinitely.
Sorry, couldn't help jumping in with that ridiculous New 52 Riddler.
Been rewatching bits and pieces of Enterprise over the last few weeks. I just f**king love Jeffrey Combs so much. Shran has to be one of my favourite alien characters. I really hope they have Combs on Discovery at some point.
That would be great! I guess we'll see the Andorians soon, after so much name dropping..
Didn't they tease the antennae during production?
Yes, i remember the release of a picture with an andorian looking latex mask soon after the beginning of the (pre)production.
Edit: Found it:
http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2016/08/andorians-coming-to-star-trek-discovery.html
The orange looking skin is strange. Either it's another species or it's related to the four different genders of the Andorians.
Been binge watching the classics. If you have Amazon Prime they include all of the classic movies up to Insurrection, and they include Beyond.
I think The orange is just the unpainted prosthetic.
I hate the Klingons in this show. Have they never heard of ADR? They always sound like they have a mouth full of ham sandwich when they say anything.
Spoiler
The whole ship teleportation thing feels too Event Horizon to me thus far.
:D I noticed that in the first episode. Just waiting for someone to go "Nah, sorry, didn't catch that."
Quote from: Mr. Xenomorph on Oct 09, 2017, 02:33:57 AM
I hate the Klingons in this show. Have they never heard of ADR? They always sound like they have a mouth full of ham sandwich when they say anything.
Egff!
Having seen the various previews of DISCOVERY, I couldn't take it seriously as being set in the 'prime timeline' as a precursor to the classic TOS show - and having seen the first 3 episodes now, my view on that hasn't changed one jot! Let's be honest here, it's a complete re-imagining of the original concept by the makers, where very little meshes with the original show's material or tone...
However...rather than look on this as a completely rebooted version of original Star Trek era, I went into it imagining it as an unrelated, 'Alternative Universe' to the 'prime timeline' version instead - and was actually able to enjoy it much more this way! ;D
I still find the opening credits and theme a major disappointment - hell, I'd rather just shorten them to start at the point where we just see the words 'Star Trek Discovery', along with the brief cue of the line drawing of the ship flying towards us, before continuing with the episodes - but by totally separating this from being an actual prequel to the original Star Trek show, I'm now looking forward to whatever comes next...as it won't matter if anything ties in logically with the look of the classic show or not, regarding 'Klingons' or whatever else! :laugh:
There's still nothing in the new show that compares with the
EDGINESS
of the TNG "rape gangs". :-X
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Rape_gang
or the weird episode where they
go full on Cronenberg Body Horror. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Vr9LnogLMAlso.. fans need to make peace with the fact that the original series
just doesnt LOOK LIKE THE FUTURE anymore :laugh:
And if there's gonna be a new show,
they really needed to update the aesthetics. lol
Did they ever say why they put it in the timeframe they did?
Why not make it post Nemesis and they can make it look exactly they way they want without worrying about visual continuity.
Quote from: SM on Oct 10, 2017, 04:06:03 AM
Did they ever say why they put it in the timeframe they did?
Why not make it post Nemesis and they can make it look exactly they way they want without worrying about visual continuity.
Not that I can remember seeing. They wanted to play with this Klingon conflict but to be honest, that just feels like a response to Axanar. They could have done all the other stuff post-Nemesis. I imagine it's in the Kelvin-verse, personally.
I enjoyed the new episode. I thought Burnham's story in this episode was very Trek (don't judge a book by its cover) and it was interesting to see the tartigrade get handled like that. Something you don't see too often (I know Trek has done it a few times but not often). Really digging Lorca too. Still not keen on the Klingon ship designs.
Also
Spoiler
surely someone would have come back to help out the sarcophagus ship or check them out in the 6 months.
Also cool to see someone took Gorgeou's telescope before they abandoned ship. I wonder if it was a gaff or an actual point for later? Saru took it and finds out Burnham has it?
Preview for #5.
Spoiler
Wouldn't the Klingons poison themselves by eating Georgiou's corpse after running out of food? The corpse might have been decomposing at that time. or did they eat her directly after finding her because they are cannibals and humanoids are a natural part of their menu?
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 10, 2017, 03:02:03 AM
Also.. fans need to make peace with the fact that the original series
just doesnt LOOK LIKE THE FUTURE anymore :laugh:
And if there's gonna be a new show,
they really needed to update the aesthetics. lol
As far as the original show looking 'dated' in certain ways, maybe it's time for me to look on the TOS show as being set in an 'alternative universe' to our own too, and not just to the DISCOVERY show! :laugh:
Quote from: Doctor Ash on Oct 10, 2017, 08:17:22 AM
Spoiler
Wouldn't the Klingons poison themselves by eating Georgiou's corpse after running out of food? The corpse might have been decomposing at that time. or did they eat her directly after finding her because they are cannibals and humanoids are a natural part of their menu?
Spoiler
She died on the Klingon ship.
How about now?
Not up to dig yet. Episode 3 was a massive improvement. Episode 4 was a little 'lolwut?' with
Spoiler
the big tardigrade and spores and infinite improbability drive (which they're not even trying to hide what with a reference to a character called Zaphod). The security woman being unceremoniously killed was a bit of a shock though. Though they were setting her up to be a main character.
That death was the only sore point for me, so far.
I get that her decision was emotion and stress driven
but...
felt cheap and not earned enough.
I still dug the episode and the first proper TREK Dillema that the show offers us.
The Spore Drive WORKS.... but at the price of hurting a sentient creature.
:-\
I want a big plush Tardigrade now. :laugh:
Spoiler
They keep teasing that Georgieu is going to be on the show more and also saying the mirror universe will come into play. What are the odds that mirror universe Georgieu shows up as a villain?
Spoiler
More Yeoh is good, yo.
Spoiler
I'm a big fan of Yeoh, yo. I guess you could say I was a... Yeoman. ;)
Quote from: SM on Oct 10, 2017, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: Doctor Ash on Oct 10, 2017, 08:17:22 AM
Spoiler
Wouldn't the Klingons poison themselves by eating Georgiou's corpse after running out of food? The corpse might have been decomposing at that time. or did they eat her directly after finding her because they are cannibals and humanoids are a natural part of their menu?
Spoiler
She died on the Klingon ship.
Spoiler
I know. I meant shortly after finding her corpse.
Not sure what you mean.
That they might have eaten her shortly after finding her corpse before they ran out of food.
They are her. Lol
Never have they done or said something like that in the Trek universe
It just keeps getting better:
"A cluttered Star Trek: Discovery fails to make its case" (spoilers)
https://www.avclub.com/a-cluttered-star-trek-discovery-fails-to-make-its-case-1819269883/amp
https://trekmovie.com/2017/10/12/star-trek-discovery-episode-titles-for-the-rest-of-2017-revealed/
New titles. I really like the the 9th one and where it's from.
Quote"And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul."
I'm not hating this show so far. I think it's anachronistic as all hell and doesn't seem to fit anywhere in the Prime Trek historical timeline, but I'm still enjoying it enough to keep watching.
Does anyone else here also think that Ellen Landry's name was because of Ripley, as she died because of an alien creature?
Quote from: Doctor Ash on Oct 15, 2017, 11:59:06 AM
Does anyone else here also think that Ellen Landry's name was because of Ripley, as she died because of an alien creature?
I can't say I picked up on that.
Just saw #5. I enjoyed that. More than the last, I think. I think I can see where this is going to tidy up in terms of continuity and the Infinite Probability Drive -
Spoiler
the moral implications of it. You can guarantee it's gonna cause death and eventually the real Fed mentality will win out.
I'm waiting...
last weeks episode was a bit iffy.
This one was good, again. :)
Ending seemed like a big hint at the mirror universe... :o
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 16, 2017, 09:17:39 PM
Ending seemed like a big hint at the mirror universe... :o
Hadn't thought about that. Seems obvious now. Maybe too obvious now it's pointed out? We do know that
Spoiler
there is going to be an MU episode.
They're releasing one episode a week... on a streaming service. Wut.
Same with Electric Dreams and Preacher. So what?
Finally watched episode 3. The camera crew sobered up, so that's something, but the writing and characters are still atrocious. Michael was fairly sedate though.
Hmmm. Episode 4 was actually pretty decent.
Quote from: Sabby on Oct 17, 2017, 04:50:14 AMMichael was fairly sedate though.
Is she no longer seething?
The F word in Trek.
Not needed.
Entertaining though
Off topic-ish but I watched Chaos On The Bridge the other after reading some Facebook posts by David Gerrold. Never had any idea about the mess surrounding the creation of The Next Generation. It sounded as if Roddenberry is his quest to maintain control of his baby forgot about the need to make an entertaining show. It also explained why Next Gen was often so bland in terms of the main characters and their relationships.
Quote from: SM on Oct 20, 2017, 05:05:40 AM
Off topic-ish but I watched Chaos On The Bridge the other after reading some Facebook posts by David Gerrold. Never had any idea about the mess surrounding the creation of The Next Generation. It sounded as if Roddenberry is his quest to maintain control of his baby forgot about the need to make an entertaining show. It also explained why Next Gen was often so bland in terms of the main characters and their relationships.
The whole 'people in the future aren't petty and full of problems and don't do dumb things or fight over nothing' rule makes it hard to write conflict. I remember that rule being broken pretty regularly outside of the main cast, though.
Quote from: SM on Oct 20, 2017, 05:05:40 AM
Off topic-ish but I watched Chaos On The Bridge the other after reading some Facebook posts by David Gerrold. Never had any idea about the mess surrounding the creation of The Next Generation. It sounded as if Roddenberry is his quest to maintain control of his baby forgot about the need to make an entertaining show. It also explained why Next Gen was often so bland in terms of the main characters and their relationships.
Is that one of the docos? But yeah, I've seen that mentioned pretty often in some behind-the-scenes books and etc. The writers just didn't enjoy it and you can completely understand why.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/10/star-trek-discoverys-canon-connections-episode-105/2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCBuaTnDsQsI'm still playing catch-up with Continues. Halfway through episode 9 atm.
Quote
Is that one of the docos?
Yeah, with all the interviews done by The Shat. I got wind of it 'cos I follow Gerrold on Facebook and he was talking about 'the Ferengi memo'. Plus there was a story about Troi having six breasts.
It seems like Gerrold and DC Fontana were brought as writers because they new Trek inside out, then other writers were brought in over them, Roddenberry and Roddenberry's lawyer rooted them all around. Then the writers who were brought in over Gerrold and Fontana got shafted too. Gerrold had people spreading malicious rumours about him due to his homosexuality which meant he never got another writing job in Hollywood (and went off to write novels instead).
Denise Crosby says they could've just had a fake pair of legs standing behind Stewart most of the time as she was barely on screen. Gates McFadden got sacked at the end of season one due to personality clashes with one of the showrunners. Then Diana Muldaur didn't gel with the others. Plus many fans were rejecting a Trek without Kirk, Spock and McCoy.
It's amazing it lasted 7 seasons and was actually allowed to properly conclude rather than be axed.
Quote from: SM on Oct 20, 2017, 09:50:22 AM
It's amazing it lasted 7 seasons and was actually allowed to properly conclude rather than be axed.
You really wouldn't get that now-a-days. Do you remember if they had a multi-season order to start with?
There was some new and unusual syndication deal but I don't remember the details.
From Wikipedia -
QuoteDespite Star Trek's proven success, NBC and ABC only offered to consider pilot scripts for the new series, and CBS offered to air a miniseries that could become a series if it did well. That the Big Three television networks treated Paramount's most appealing and valuable property as they would any other series offended the studio. Fox wanted the show to help launch the new network, but wanted it by March 1987, and would only commit to 13 episodes instead of a full season. The unsuccessful negotiations convinced the studio that it could only protect Star Trek with full control.[6][11]
Paramount increased and accelerated the show's profitability by choosing to instead broadcast it in first-run syndication[14][8][15]:123–124 on independent stations (whose numbers had more than tripled since 1980) and Big Three network affiliates.[6] The studio offered the show to local stations for free as barter syndication. The stations sold five minutes of commercial time to local advertisers and Paramount sold the remaining seven minutes to national advertisers. Stations had to commit to purchasing reruns in the future,[14] and only those that aired the new show could purchase the popular reruns of the original series.[16]:222[17]
We chose that time deliberately after we saw Once a Hero last June. It's kind of bad for ABC, but we all have to survive somehow, and ABC isn't helping us in that time period.
WZZM (Grand Rapids, Michigan), on its decision to preempt a network show with The Next Generation[18]
The studio's strategy succeeded. Most of the 150 stations airing reruns of the original Star Trek wanted to prevent a competitor from airing the new show; ultimately, 210 stations covering 90% of the United States became part of Paramount's informal nationwide network for TNG.[14][18] In early October 1987, more than 50 network affiliates pre-empted their own shows for the series pilot, "Encounter at Farpoint". One station predicted that "'Star Trek' promises to be one of the most successful programs of the season, network or syndicated."[18]
The new show indeed performed well; the pilot's ratings were higher than those of many network programs,[18] and ratings remained comparable to network shows by the end of the first season despite the handicap of each station airing the show on a different day and time, often outside prime time. By the end of the first season, Paramount reportedly received $1 million for advertising per episode, more than the roughly $800,000 fee that networks typically paid for a one-hour show;[14] by 1992, when the budget for each episode had risen to almost $2 million,[19] the studio earned $90 million from advertising annually from first-run episodes, with each 30-second commercial selling for $115,000 to $150,000.[20][21] The show had a 40% return on investment for Paramount, with $30 to $60 million in annual upfront net profit for first-run episodes and another $70 million for stripping rights for each of the about 100 episodes then available, so did not need overseas sales to be successful.[20]
Another decent episode.
But it was the first with a really unintentionally funny scene.
(Sarek-Fu?) :laugh:
And Trek Trivia -
Lots of fans are freaking out about the holodecks in this new episode.. but..
Holodecks first showed up in an episode of the Animated Series.
Way back in the 60's.. The Enterprise had that tech, way before The Next Generation.
Animated series was never seriously considered part of the canon.. but i love it.. so :-*
Perhaps it's just a case of them being not widespread until TNG days. I can't remember Season 1 well enough to be specific. Or more specifically, it's a combat training simulator rather than an actual holodeck.
But that makes what? 2 TAS nods? Seems they really did some classic research for this. lol
Oh and it was also pretty interesting about Sarek. It gives his falling out with Spock and his attitude in Babel (I think that's the episode?) some added depth.
Really enjoyed the latest episode. Despite it being such a dark take on the time loop thing, it was a pretty fun episode, I think. I quite enjoy this more serious take on Mudd - though I understand how folk can be a little pissed at that ending.
Nice to see the character dynamics evolving too.
Last episode was probably the best of the show so far.
And the best Harry Mudd episode.. ever?
Dude really mellowed out in the TOS era. :laugh:
Wycleaf Jean out of nowhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHYmR5Hj8AE
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 01, 2017, 12:25:41 PM
And the best Harry Mudd episode.. ever?
Dude really mellowed out in the TOS era. :laugh:
Yeah...maybe he sought some help for those murderous tenancies? :laugh:
Looking forward to the new episode tonight.
Work on Season 2 starts shortly - https://trekmovie.com/2017/11/05/showrunner-reveals-work-on-star-trek-discovery-season-2-to-begin-in-two-weeks/
Couple of episodes behind on Discovery 'cos I noticed TOS is on Netflix, so I'm catching up on all the shows I haven't seen since the 70s.
Quote from: Vermillion on Oct 20, 2017, 02:36:43 AM
The F word in Trek.
Not needed.
Entertaining though
We've had "Way cool", "Groovy", and a Frat party complete with music that would be dated today, let alone in the future. Kind of wish we could have just stopped at the swearing.
Quote from: Sabby on Nov 11, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Oct 20, 2017, 02:36:43 AM
The F word in Trek.
Not needed.
Entertaining though
We've had "Way cool", "Groovy", and a Frat party complete with music that would be dated today, let alone in the future. Kind of wish we could have just stopped at the swearing.
I wish you could have stopped at calling the lead character a "c**t".
But you're still shitposting in this thread.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: And YOU'RE one of the people complaining about the F word in Trek? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 11, 2017, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: Sabby on Nov 11, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Oct 20, 2017, 02:36:43 AM
The F word in Trek.
Not needed.
Entertaining though
We've had "Way cool", "Groovy", and a Frat party complete with music that would be dated today, let alone in the future. Kind of wish we could have just stopped at the swearing.
I wish you could have stopped at calling the lead character a "c**t".
But you're still shitposting in this thread.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: And YOU'RE one of the people complaining about the F word in Trek? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Oh, the swearing itself doesn't bother me, just feels a bit out of place. Like I said, it's kind of a small gripe, all things considered.
Nudity now.
Albeit brief.
It's just odd for Trek.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 10, 2017, 07:45:36 AMI imagine it's in the Kelvin-verse, personally.
Agreed for a couple of reasons;
* Instant multiple light year transportation by Starfleet has always been limited in the franchise. Otherwise a 5 year mission could last 5 months.
"Star Trek Discovery" with its spore drive in several episodes makes light year transport far too easy.
- That fits the style of the Kelvin alternate reality with its transwarp beaming which was done in Abrams' ST movies. In "Into Darkness" it was pretty routine where Khan (John Harrison) beamed from earth to Qo'noS, of the Klingon Empire, in seconds.
- Original universe Star Trek stories that tried long distance instant transport. Had it as a failure; ST Enterprise "Daedalus" (sub-quantum transporter); or it was too unstable to be used more than once; TNG "Bloodlines" (subspace transporter).
- Or instant long distance transport could only be used by aliens; TOS "Assignment Earth".
* Spore drive cannot blend into TOS, TNG, DS9 and especially Voyager (where that crew certainly would have discussed something like this if it had existed).
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 10, 2017, 07:45:36 AMStill not keen on the Klingon ship designs.
Very much agree. The "ST Discovery" designs for the Klingon ships (like the warbirds) don't modernize what was done before but just make arbitrary changes.
- And these Klingons can't speak clearly due to all the makeup. A problem if compared with Worf from TNG/DS9.
* Overall; this is Kurtzman's series. He had worked on the JJ Abrams ST movies. And the style of JJ's alternate reality idea fits "ST Discovery" very well no matter if the producers deny that.
- As entertainment after the first 5 episodes, I'm enjoying a lot of it as I did with the 2009 Star Trek movie. From the quality visuals, it's clear that Netflix put a lot of money into this series.
But that flashiness only works if I keep reminding myself that this is an alternate reality, (like the Mirror Universe or Kelvin Trek) and it is not original universe Star Trek.
;)
PS. Saw episode 6. Enjoyed the story. But a holodeck? Another reason this should be part of the Kelvin alternate reality.
PPS. Episode 7 Mudd (like a twin from the Mirror Universe) does not fit with his character in TOS.
They jumped to the TOS universe out of the mirror universe.
This trek is entertaining. Despite the straying from Roddenberry's bible...
Looking forward to the next episodes
Quote from: Vermillion on Oct 20, 2017, 02:36:43 AM
The F word in Trek.
Not needed.
Entertaining though
Funny how you had fans wanted Trek to be more adult and mature for years.
Real Trekkers would follow Roddenberry's lead and not what the pseudo-fans want.
Imagine TNG with boobs and swearing.
Would it be like Game of Thrones?
Fully functional Data.
Roddenberry got kicked upstairs for a reason after TMP.
I like how we've gotten to know absolutely zero members of the bridge crew through this show. Who the f**k is that robot Data woman who we keep seeing? When is she going to be a character?
Yeah, honestly just feels like something someone was making that was just stapled onto an existing franchise, hoping to get a free ride. If it was just it's own show with no connection to Star Trek whatsoever, it would be an average science fiction show. Reminds me a lot of Stargate Universe in that regard. Average at best science fiction show that could be easily removed from the Stargate series and get less criticism if it did.
Currently a few episodes into re-watching series two of the original series. It's got a charm that is utterly lacking from every other iteration of the show, but there is some bizarre shit too. Watched The Changeling last night, Uhura gets her mind wiped, but is able to relearn to read in a matter of hours (her speaking Swahili was a great touch though). And Kirk and co. have a good chuckle on the bridge at the end despite four redshirts being vapourised by Nomad.
Quote from: genocyber on Nov 27, 2017, 11:22:53 PM
I like how we've gotten to know absolutely zero members of the bridge crew through this show. Who the f**k is that robot Data woman who we keep seeing? When is she going to be a character?
That's a deliberate thing. The main characters of Discovery aren't the bridge crew. Personally, I find it refreshing. And we're only 8 episodes in anyway. Plenty of room to expand out this different set of main characters.
Quote from: Sabby on Nov 27, 2017, 11:53:00 PM
Yeah, honestly just feels like something someone was making that was just stapled onto an existing franchise, hoping to get a free ride. If it was just it's own show with no connection to Star Trek whatsoever, it would be an average science fiction show. Reminds me a lot of Stargate Universe in that regard. Average at best science fiction show that could be easily removed from the Stargate series and get less criticism if it did.
I still think it's too early to give any definitive label on Discovery like this. I'll wait to see how it all reconiles with the canon as it apparently is going to. I will give you that the aesthetics don't fit in right with the supposed timeline which is why I head-canon it to be set within the Kelvin-verse but the battle of ethics are there in the characters and it's so refreshing to have a set of characters that don't follow the same template time and time again.
Same as Universe. I will stand by that show until the end of time. It may have been slow going but it was Stargate. It was just a different take on it and once it found it's feet after that first quarter it just kept getting better and better and better. Time has to be one of the best episodes of Stargate ever.
Quote from: SM on Nov 28, 2017, 12:03:11 AM
And Kirk and co. have a good chuckle on the bridge at the end despite four redshirts being vapourised by Nomad.
:laugh: Pretty standard. To be honest, I do think TOS is all over the place. There's some cracking stuff in that show but some truly f**king weird crap.
Also :laugh:
https://trekmovie.com/2017/11/27/william-shatner-blocks-jason-isaacs-on-twitter/
That could be said about ever Trek series. Need I bring up TNG Season 1? :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Nov 28, 2017, 03:25:23 PM
That could be said about ever Trek series. Need I bring up TNG Season 1? :laugh:
Good point. The Original Series had some very good episodes in the first season including; "The Corbomite Maneuver", "The Menagerie 1&2", "Space Seed", and "The City on the Edge of Forever".
- But that was not typical of the ST franchise.
The first season of both The Next Generation and Deep Space 9 had almost all subpar episodes.
Yet many fans believe that TNG and DS9 are the best Star Trek series. They got a lot better.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
I'll wait to see how it all reconiles with the canon as it apparently is going to. I will give you that the aesthetics don't fit in right with the supposed timeline which is why I head-canon it to be set within the Kelvin-verse...
I think there is no way to fix this canon issue with the extensive use of the spore drive in the series and it being known throughout the Federation.
So, Discovery is alternate reality (Kelvin?) Trek for me.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2017, 10:56:47 AMbut the battle of ethics are there in the characters and it's so refreshing to have a set of characters that don't follow the same template time and time again.
Agreed.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2017, 10:56:47 AMSame as Universe. I will stand by that show until the end of time. It may have been slow going but it was Stargate. It was just a different take on it and once it found it's feet after that first quarter it just kept getting better and better and better. Time has to be one of the best episodes of Stargate ever.
I'm completely with you on "Stargate Universe". Yes, it didn't have the humor of the other Stargate series (being influenced by the Battlestar Galactica reboot). But I thought it was very good TV space travel science fiction.
- But the blow back on the web, from mostly hardcore Richard Dean Anderson fans, was very harsh. They started a campaign to kill "SG: Universe". There was even a website saying that the show should die. The campaign helped to end the series and another result was that the proposed "SG: Atlantis" TV movie didn't happen.
;)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
Also :laugh:
https://trekmovie.com/2017/11/27/william-shatner-blocks-jason-isaacs-on-twitter/
Chaos on the bridge! :laugh:
I ordered the first volume of The Fifty Year Mission last night. It should be interesting given it's an unauthorized, uncensored history of the franchise.
Quote from: bb-15 on Nov 28, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
I'll wait to see how it all reconiles with the canon as it apparently is going to. I will give you that the aesthetics don't fit in right with the supposed timeline which is why I head-canon it to be set within the Kelvin-verse...
I think there is no way to fix this canon issue with the extensive use of the spore drive in the series and it being known throughout the Federation.
So, Discovery is alternate reality (Kelvin?) Trek for me.
Someone I play Attack Wing with suggested that they'd solve it by somehow de-stabilising the entire magical mushroom network so it's just not usable which I think would work.
See where this goes
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/937860099363635201
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 05, 2017, 01:54:17 AM
See where this goes
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/937860099363635201
Sam Jackson shows up and shows Discovery how F bombs are done. ;D ;)
Sam Jackson would be the MF'ing Captain!!!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 29, 2017, 10:08:16 AM
Quote from: bb-15 on Nov 28, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
I'll wait to see how it all reconiles with the canon as it apparently is going to. I will give you that the aesthetics don't fit in right with the supposed timeline which is why I head-canon it to be set within the Kelvin-verse...
I think there is no way to fix this canon issue with the extensive use of the spore drive in the series and it being known throughout the Federation.
So, Discovery is alternate reality (Kelvin?) Trek for me.
Someone I play Attack Wing with suggested that they'd solve it by somehow de-stabilising the entire magical mushroom network so it's just not usable which I think would work.
Thanks for the theory.
I think it's pretty amusing that a network which can instantly connect the entire universe can suddenly be completely dysfunctional.
But "Discovery" has done some pretty wacky things with the spore drive so who knows?
;)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 29, 2017, 10:08:16 AM
Someone I play Attack Wing with suggested that they'd solve it by somehow de-stabilising the entire magical mushroom network so it's just not usable which I think would work.
Pretty sure i posted a similar idea in this very thread. :P
And L'rell is currently in a position to do some spy shenanigans...
Magical mushrooms...? Now I want a John Boorman/Rospo Pallenberg Trek film. :laugh:
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 05, 2017, 01:54:17 AM
See where this goes
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/937860099363635201
I find myself intrigued by this. I feel like it's definitely be a more unique take on Trek. Eagerly await more news on this.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/938871662287581185
I think a R rated Star Trek could work. Just because it's R rated that does not mean it will be blood, guts, sex and boobs everywhere. You can make a dark and mature Sci-Fi movie without any of that. We had Star Trek stuff before aim to adults (Remember Star Trek: Klingon for the PC?).
Wow. That is moving along quite fast. I'd be really curious to see where they'd take an R rated film. Closest comparison I could think of would be Khan - that was rated 15 over here.
Khan, Undiscovered Country and Discovery are the "hardest" trek fare so far...
Tarantino is a big fan of the franchise.
I'm expecting this to be quite faithful to the lore and characters while still being playful in a very tarantino way.
I'm not expecting any huge amounts of gore and fbombs, tbh. It'll probably be tame compared to Tarantino's other stuff...
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/944006871031140352
Happy to see they're continuing to move on with this. It sounds like a really interesting idea.
huh, tarantino is not a great director, but seems to be a huge fan, and it cannot be worse and more far away from what ST is than what abrams did, so i have mixed feelings, the R rating is not necessary either, actually with Star Trek Continues, Discovery, and The Orville i do not think that the simpler, dumber and twisted version for casual audiences are those new movies needs to go on
I've been reading these two oral history of Star Trek books, and the DS9 chapter has me really wanting to watch through that on Netflix. I think I'll start on the three day weekend I have coming up. Maybe I'll go back later and watch through TNG when I feel like flagellating myself with that awful first season I can never push myself through...
Oh, and since I loved Band of Brothers so much, I'm looking forward to checking out Erik Jendresen's unproduced Trek script about the Romulan war.
I love DS9. Same as all Star Trek, skip to Season 3 and it's gold!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 05, 2018, 09:59:47 AM
I love DS9. Same as all Star Trek, skip to Season 3 and it's gold!
I'm almost at the good stuff, then.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 05, 2018, 09:59:47 AM
I love DS9. Same as all Star Trek, skip to Season 3 and it's gold!
Going off of the book, you have to wait until Michael Piller signs on for TNG to get good, and for DS9/VOY you have to wait for him to leave. :laugh:
Jonathan Frakes about Tarantino's Star Trek.
QuoteFrakes: Where do you fall on the Quentin Tarantino story?
RT: Oh. Well, you know, I'm open.
Frakes: Speak frankly.
RT: I'm open to have people experiment and to see what they can do with a thing. What about you? Let me throw that right back at you.
Frakes: I texted with J.J. about it to see what his take was. I wanted to see if I could get the scoop out of him, and he just said it's going to be wild. I threw it back at him. I'm fascinated. I love the fact that Patrick Stewart played his hand so well and said, "Yeah, I'm available. Count me in."
RT: When you look at films like Logan and Deadpool, harder is not necessarily bad, you know? We saw some pushback with Discovery dropping the f-bomb, which was a big moment for me as a longtime viewer. I think people who maybe grew up with Star Trek as part of their childhood and have always seen it as a family-oriented property —
Frakes: Yeah, and are sharing it with their family now.
RT: Yeah, and I think it may have taken some of them by surprise to see that kind of profanity.
Frakes: One can only expect more if Quentin's in charge.
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/star-trek-jonathan-frakes-on-directing-discovery-death-and-quentin-tarantino/
So Season 1, Part 2 -
I love that it looks like we're getting a sustained arc in the
Spoiler
Mirror Universe.
Again, I can't help but wonder about canon implications, though. It was nice to see that connection in the way of the
Spoiler
Defiant
. Unfortunately had that spoiled on Facebook before I had the chance to watch it but I still loved it. And :o ...
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Culber...
Didn't expect that!
I'm really disappointed that it did actually turn out the
Spoiler
Voq/Tyler thing is
right. Mostly just because everyone had already figured this out. It's the same "meh" I had with the Flash reveal in Season 3. The audience being 10 episodes a head of the show.
Got four episodes of DS9 down. It's pretty decent so far, with Odo and Quark being the best parts. And it's kind of funny how two Hellraiser actors popped up by the third episode. Also, is it some unwritten rule that every Trek series has to have an episode where the crew gets affected by a stupidity virus? Because they've done that here, too, and they must have loved it so much they made it the status quo of Voyager. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 05, 2018, 06:56:47 AM
Oh, and since I loved Band of Brothers so much, I'm looking forward to checking out Erik Jendresen's unproduced Trek script about the Romulan war.
Just finished reading it. It definitely reads like the first draft it is. Some interesting stuff in there but it feels like too much for just a movie (even if it ends with To Be Continued). Feels like it should be a mini-series. I liked all a lot of the connective tissue but sometimes it did feel a little off. So much cloaking. So much. Really wish the prequels wouldn't f**k about with cloaks.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 15, 2018, 01:21:12 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 05, 2018, 06:56:47 AM
Oh, and since I loved Band of Brothers so much, I'm looking forward to checking out Erik Jendresen's unproduced Trek script about the Romulan war.
Just finished reading it. It definitely reads like the first draft it is. Some interesting stuff in there but it feels like too much for just a movie (even if it ends with To Be Continued). Feels like it should be a mini-series. I liked all a lot of the connective tissue but sometimes it did feel a little off. So much cloaking. So much. Really wish the prequels wouldn't f**k about with cloaks.
Also, Jendresen clearly still had Band of Brothers in his system, what with the allusions to the Battle of the Bulge and such. And I really have no idea about the cloaking, so that worked for me.
They made a big deal out of it in Balance of Terror with it being an unknown technology. Enterprise f**ks that up a bit with the Sulaban too.
Re: Discovery's latest episode - I enjoyed it.
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I'm so glad they're sticking it through and staying in the Mirror Universe for an extended time. Really enjoyed the opening monologue with how difficult it was for Burnham to stay in-character.
Re - Tyler
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At least it's finally out there. It would have been so much better had the fanbase not figured it out ages ago. I really didn't think she was going to kill him but I hadn't considered using him to deliver that intel so that was kinda cool. Really interested to see where/how far they go with this story angle.
Stuff like that is easy to fix (or stuff up) in Star Trek with time travel. There was a cloaked Klingon Bird of Prey sat in San Fran park in 1986 for a couple of days. The crew of which gave some dude a recipe for transparent aluminium.
Quote from: SM on Jan 16, 2018, 09:29:03 AM
Stuff like that is easy to fix (or stuff up) in Star Trek with time travel. There was a cloaked Klingon Bird of Prey sat in San Fran park in 1986 for a couple of days. The crew of which gave some dude a recipe for transparent aluminium.
I'm sure we could find a fansplanation for it but it's just one of those things that doesn't settle down right for me.
https://www.inverse.com/article/40200-shazad-latif-star-trek-discovery-ep-11-voq-tyler-spoilers?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=outreach&utm_campaign=organic
Spoilers re Voq.
I had forgotten that cloaking was a new thing in Balance of Terror. I know Jendresen was thinking about how to explain why no one knew what Romulans looked like by then, but that may have been the subject of one of the sequels. Also, I should mention I got a good laugh out of Archer and company being unable to help because they were chilling on Risa. :laugh:
That was something I was bummed out by. I appreciate it was aimed at being one of a few but I was like where are the NX's, where are all the Daedalus' having it out? I dunno, I guess I felt a little underwhelmed by it. :-\
Then again, I wasn't a massive fan of the more recent book series covering the Romulan War either. Maybe I've got it built up a little too much in my mind.
Re: the latest episode -
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I loved that reveal. I just also hate how on the mark the fans have been at predicting this show.
Just watched The Way To Eden.
ye gods...
Quentin Tarantino's Star Trek (Nerdist Presents)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=58&v=v3Nv2R9Acec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=58&v=v3Nv2R9Acec)
lol brilliant. ;D
That's awesome. :laugh:
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 22, 2018, 08:09:57 PM
Re: the latest episode -
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I loved that reveal. I just also hate how on the mark the fans have been at predicting this show.
It's true that reviews (such as from a Star Trek YouTube channel, Trekspertise), has predicted all the main plot points as Discovery season 1, part 2 begins.
Is that a bad thing? Not imo.
The series writers are trying new plot ideas blended with something which have some connections to ST canon.
As a result, with a 700+ ST story franchise, repetition is inevitable and plot twists are going to be figured out by the Memory Alpha crowd.
As for Discovery, in part 2 of season 1, one thing that keeps impressing me is the movie level visuals and the quality of the performances.
And even if some things were spoiled, (hey it was my choice to watch those reviews!), there is still a lot going on to entertain my inner Star Trek fan.
The only challenge remains for the whole series; this show should completely take place in an alternate reality/universe (like in the Kelvin timeline).
;)
I wish they'd have stuck it in the Kelvin-verse too but oh well. I'm enjoying the stories and the extended stay in the MU.
I wasn't expecting
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them to bring back the Empress with them either and I have to wonder how they're going to reconcile the Federation nearly being defeated.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 01, 2018, 08:58:19 AM
I wish they'd have stuck it in the Kelvin-verse too but oh well. I'm enjoying the stories and the extended stay in the MU.
I wasn't expecting Spoiler
them to bring back the Empress with them either and I have to wonder how they're going to reconcile the Federation nearly being defeated.
Discovery is very entertaining adventure science fiction.
Plot twists? The series writers love them.
As I watch Discovery episodes I am reminded of Abrams' 2009 "Star Trek".
- In that movie a hypernova could destroy life in a galaxy. That was a stretch of ST canon but obscure examples could be found in the franchise which could support the idea.
- With Discovery this death concept is extended much further. (It actually becomes pretty silly imo.)
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The destruction of the spore network will lead to the death of all known life in all universes!
The 2009 Star Trek movie has long distance transport called transwarp beaming.
It also stretches ST canon but doesn't break it. There are other examples of long distance transport in the franchise.
- But Discovery has to push the idea to the extreme.
Spoiler
where entire ships can not only instantly appear light years away but can pop in and out of other universes.
* But I just keep enjoying the series because of the visuals, sound, cast, pacing and plot twists.
;)
To be fair the supernova didn't destroy all life in the galaxy, just a region around Romulus.
Just got done watching the Animated Series. For something aimed fairly at kids, it's often quite nifty. Having the originals doing the voices is a definite plus (minus Koenig). Also a plus is Kirk not being able to crack onto anything in a skirt with a pulse, which got really old during TOS.
I finished watching the Discovery finale and imo it was the worst written episode of season one.
1. It was preachy. I think even beyond Picard's most know it all speeches in Next Generation.
2. The ending of the episode was rushed resolving several season long story lines in seconds.
3. The ending was too tidy having a huge tone shift from tense to happy; almost like the end of the Wizard of Oz.
* I'm not going to discuss how Discovery fits with original universe Star Trek (it doesn't in several ways).
- But with this finale, Discovery didn't fit with itself very well.
;)
Honestly, it felt like they just couldn't wait to wrap everything up and move on to something else. A disappointing finale to what has otherwise been pretty good. Also, a lot of the failure of the finale for me was that there were many things along the way this season that I worried were rushed or badly written, but you try to give them the benefit of the doubt...that they may have a plan for stuff, and it will all work out okay. Not so much in the end.
Nice to know you can conquer the Klingons by holding up a device and you don't even have to explain what it is or what it does, they'll just give up. And why was that Klingon force heading for Earth so damn small? Less than a dozen ships, what is this TNG's Unification? ;)
https://twitter.com/SPACEdotcom/status/963751839442264064
It would be even funnier if a warp drive accidentally gets invented this way.
Can we just kill off Micahael Burnem and have Seru be the new lead?
So. The new captain is on Vulcan?
Dafaq?
So...the last episode. I liked that it was resolved with words. However, I do feel like it was a little neat and I don't think L'Rell's scene was the best way of putting it across. It did seem a little "ooohhh, magical padd." It didn't seem like she'd already filled them in on what it does.
Now that it's all done - I did really like Michael. I loved Saru. I love all the main cast and characters. Really got into them.
And that ending. Love the new take on it. I can't see us ever getting on the ship though. They've said they wouldn't redesign the set and that they also can't re-use the originals. I'd also wouldn't want to see another Spock. Perhaps a new Pike. I'd be interested in more Pike.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 17, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
They've said they wouldn't redesign the set
Kurtzman recently said they would be going inside, and that the sets would be redesigned. "Respectful of the old" but the style of the new.
Can you link me?
I can, but first I have to mea cupla for my assumption. He's actually a little cagey about it all, refusing to absolutely say for sure what will be. So my apologies for that misread. ...That said, I'd put money on his Ifs being Whens.
QuoteIn terms of designing that Enterprise bridge set, for Discovery you went for a mix of modern and retro, while the 2009 film had its own look. What are you going for in terms of the look of the Enterprise bridge?
That's another sneaky question because you're presuming we've designed an Enterprise bridge.
You just said we'll be surprised at who is on the Enterprise! Are we going to only hear their voices through the Discovery's coms the whole season?
I said "on the ship," not "on the bridge." Here's what I'll say: We have to stay consistent design-wise with the Enterprise, obviously we can't mess around with that. That being said, the technology and the look of the Discovery is so far past TOS merely as a function of the time in which these [shows were made]. Our goal is to be interpretive in a way that feels it's protective of what the Enterprise would look like if, in theory, if we were to build any Enterprise sets. But if we built it like it looked in The Original Series, there would be a massive visual disconnect. Figuring out a way to bridge that gap would theoretically be the work of a production designer — were there to be any designs like that.
http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/11/star-trek-discovery-finale-season-2-interview/
Why would they need a goal unless it was on the table? :)
Absolutely fair point. I can just imagine the outrage now.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 19, 2018, 10:07:25 AM
I can, but first I have to mea cupla for my assumption. He's actually a little cagey about it all, refusing to absolutely say for sure what will be. So my apologies for that misread. ...That said, I'd put money on his Ifs being Whens.
QuoteIn terms of designing that Enterprise bridge set, for Discovery you went for a mix of modern and retro, while the 2009 film had its own look. What are you going for in terms of the look of the Enterprise bridge?
That's another sneaky question because you're presuming we've designed an Enterprise bridge.
You just said we'll be surprised at who is on the Enterprise! Are we going to only hear their voices through the Discovery's coms the whole season?
I said "on the ship," not "on the bridge." Here's what I'll say: We have to stay consistent design-wise with the Enterprise, obviously we can't mess around with that. That being said, the technology and the look of the Discovery is so far past TOS merely as a function of the time in which these [shows were made]. Our goal is to be interpretive in a way that feels it's protective of what the Enterprise would look like if, in theory, if we were to build any Enterprise sets. But if we built it like it looked in The Original Series, there would be a massive visual disconnect. Figuring out a way to bridge that gap would theoretically be the work of a production designer — were there to be any designs like that.
http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/11/star-trek-discovery-finale-season-2-interview/
Why would they need a goal unless it was on the table? :)
I appreciate the quote.
This information from Kurtzman is an example of the mental gymnastics which I figured would take place if a new direct prequel to TOS stayed in the original universe.
The reason for the Kelvin timeline in Star Trek (2009) was to avoid all that.
* My interpretation of Kurtzman with my own spin on it;
- The Enterprise at the end of season 1 was a bauble to dangle in front of ST fans to get them to come back for season 2.
- But if Kurtzman is telling the truth about being "protective of what the Enterprise would look like", then Michael Burnham and the gang can't do more than beam to a Jeffries tube and then go back to the starship Discovery.
I'm not happy that the writers have Burnham being raised by Ambassador Sarek. How come we never heard about that before?
"Discovery" messing with the Enterprise comes down to either eye candy or Burnham will be chatting with family member Spock and the show will continue to screw with the original series timeline.
(See the Red Letter Media review of the first season of "Discovery" for a detailed discussion of these issues.)
Despite all my problems, the series is entertaining because Netflix poured so much money into it that visually it's at the level of a big budget film.
Also, the writers have packed the show with the best action ideas from older Star Trek (massive war & the Mirror Universe along with Klingons).
It's been an action Star Trek's greatest hits so far.
;)
Quote from: bb-15 on Feb 24, 2018, 08:48:15 PMI'm not happy that the writers have Burnham being raised by Ambassador Sarek. How come we never heard about that before?
The same reason we had never heard of Sybok before. Or katras. Or pon farr. Spock does not always share information when he doesn't have to. Heck, he didn't even admit who his parents were until they were literally standing in front of Kirk.
Or his second set of eyelids...
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 25, 2018, 01:48:36 AM
Quote from: bb-15 on Feb 24, 2018, 08:48:15 PMI'm not happy that the writers have Burnham being raised by Ambassador Sarek. How come we never heard about that before?
The same reason we had never heard of Sybok before. Or katras. Or pon farr. Spock does not always share information when he doesn't have to. Heck, he didn't even admit who his parents were until they were literally standing in front of Kirk.
That is a good explanation for why Spock never mentioned an adopted sister.
But it doesn't put to rest my problem that Starfleet personnel throughout the franchise never brought up this notorious adopted sister, Michael Burnham, in conversations with/or about Spock, Amanda Grayson (his mom) or Sarek.
;)
Not a topic for polite conversation.
Plus Spock can always get around it by saying no one ever asked him if he had an adopted sister.
Quote from: SM on Feb 26, 2018, 06:53:39 AM
Not a topic for polite conversation.
Plus Spock can always get around it by saying no one ever asked him if he had an adopted sister.
I'm rolling with it SM.
Of all the retcons in "Discovery", I'm pretty OK with this one.
I wonder though if in the future, will the studio add more children to the Sarek family?
Maybe in the next 50 years of the franchise?
;)
Sarek & Amanda Plus Eight.
Amanda is the chick from Not Another Teen Movie.
She likes Cleveland Steamers.
Quote from: SM on Feb 26, 2018, 07:37:00 PM
Sarek & Amanda Plus Eight.
Funny. :laugh:
I had forgotten about that Kate Gosselin train wreak.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Plus_8
;)
Quote from: Vermillion on Feb 27, 2018, 12:47:53 AM
Amanda is the chick from Not Another Teen Movie.
She likes Cleveland Steamers.
She shows up at the 53 second part...lol
https://youtu.be/zKzChFpv_aM (https://youtu.be/zKzChFpv_aM)
I was ready to give up on Discovery until they beat the cloaked Klingon ship and then jumped into the mirror universe.
Up till then it had been pretty dull and dour and miserable without any light or humour. After they went into the mirror universe, it got pretty good and managed to maintain it when they go back. The production design is baffling considering the timeframe, and Burnham is unfortunately the least interesting character (with the most interesting - Isaacs and Yeoh - now both absent). But I think there's definitely potential now.
https://twitter.com/TheRyanParker/status/978337680088956928
Is discovery worth a watch or should I start the next generation again....
Netflix problems.
Give it a go, see what you think.
It's worth persevering through the early eps to get to the good stuff in the last third of the series.
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/heroichollywood/status/983388554268151808
Can't say I'm familiar with him but he looks like Hunter, I reckon.
Quote from: Highland on Mar 28, 2018, 12:01:13 PM
Is discovery worth a watch or should I start the next generation again....
Netflix problems.
Is good, i only watched the first season, is very different but at the same time keeps the essence of what Star Trek is and has a budget way bigger than ever before and than most netflix shows which are very cheap.
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 09, 2018, 05:12:39 PM
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/heroichollywood/status/983388554268151808
Looks like he just had a "shart"
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/984219552740532224
So is there any news about whether the first season of Discovery will be on Netflix stateside?
I don't think it's ever going to come across to Netflix state-side. Perhaps home release?
http://trekcore.com/blog/2018/06/star-trek-discovery-showrunners-harberts-berg-out-for-season-2/
QuoteSources say the decision to oust Berg and Harberts was based not on the creative but instead for leadership and operational issues. Production on Discovery's first five episodes of season two are near completion, with Kurtzman likely taking over for episode six and beyond. Berg and Harberts, who were longtime collaborators with original showrunner Fuller, will likely still be credited on the episodes they oversaw.
Sources say the budget for the season two premiere ballooned, with the overages expected to come out of subsequent episodes from Discovery's sophomore run.
Insiders also stress that Berg and Harberts became increasingly abusive to the Discovery writing staff, with the latter said to have leaned across the writers' room table while shouting an expletive at a member of the show's staff.
Multiple writers are said to have been uncomfortable working on the series and had threatened to file a complaint with human resources or quit the series altogether before informing Kurtzman of the issues surrounding Berg and Harberts.
After hearing rumors of HR complaints, Harberts is said to have threatened the staff to keep concerns with the production an internal matter.
What charming chaps they seem.
Berg's a women, actually. Regardless, it's not the kind of behaviour you expect to hear from people running a Star Trek show...then again Gene wasn't exactly a shining beacon of humanity at times.
Indeed.
Cracking the whip.
Worked for Gene in the 60s.
Damn these whiny Starbucks screenwriting millennials.
So is the Tarantino version still on?
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 19, 2018, 06:25:41 PM
So is the Tarantino version still on?
According to reports he is still working on it but it will be on hold for a bit because he's going to start directing his next flick this year.
Quote from: MudButt on Jun 19, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 19, 2018, 06:25:41 PM
So is the Tarantino version still on?
According to reports he is still working on it but it will be on hold for a bit because he's going to start directing his next flick this year.
Discovery was groundbreaking for giving us the first F-bomb in Star Trek. Is anyone ready for Tarantino to show us all that the N-word is still around in the 23rd century?
From dusk till dawn style.
https://twitter.com/ComicBookNOW/status/1025842203225206785
Excellent, hopefully this is on par with or better than TNG.
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 04, 2018, 08:58:05 PM
https://twitter.com/ComicBookNOW/status/1025842203225206785
What the SHEET!?
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Because the TNG era hasn't been milked to f**king death already. ::)
What's the alternative?
Yet another, reboot/reimagining with Kirk and Spock? No thanks.
You could set a new series in the future or the past with new characters sure, but the fact of the matter is that Voyager and Enterprise were terrible.
Discovery is a mess of creatives pulling one way and the studio another, barely adhering to Gene Roddenberry's themes and established ideas.
We'll see how this turns out, roll the dice enough and you're bound to get a six eventually.
Looking forward to Quentin Tarantino's effort and this, if they're both awful it's not going to be the end of the world. The franchise already survived Nemesis.
As much as I like the concept behind the reboot, the cast and I thoroughly enjoyed Beyond, the Kelvin-verse hasn't been my favourite. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing some post movies Prime timeline stuff in live action alongside Discovery. Plus Patrick Stewart back is a huge win in my book.
I hope they give us a Rian Johnsonized Picard.
Much as I dig Stewart, I often found TNG to be a bit dull. I hope they have him a bit angrier. Here's more interesting when he's not being so polite.
If they actually went the "Federation is deeply corrupt." route that they hint at in several episodes, that would be great potential for an A to B plot for the Star Trek universe, that can break off into little stories- while still doing some good ol' trekking, but it's all in the strength of the writers at that point.
Jean Luc Picard would be a great protagonist/antagonist for that plot.
Make the premise a sequel to Conspiracy.
Yes, sorta, but without people being controlled by Aliens- just people being shitty.
You can finally explain why the Federation can generate things with replicators for nothing but all the other species use currency.
Yeah I found that pretty hokey.
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2018, 12:58:53 AM
Make the premise a sequel to Conspiracy.
Awesome episode! Violent and never finished.
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2018, 12:47:42 AM
Much as I dig Stewart, I often found TNG to be a bit dull. I hope they have him a bit angrier.
More like Leodegrance of Cameliard or Gurney Halleck?
I'd settle even just for a bit more First Contact toy spaceship smashing. Bitter and burned out because he couldn't help Spock save Romulus, which resulted in Spock's death.
How about Tommy Gun on the holodeck rage?
Bit too OTT to maintain.
We've already got the Star Trek show where everyone gets violently murdered raped mutilated and tortured.
It'd be great to have a "nice" show in the Star Trek universe again for a change. Voyager spent a lot of its time being tepid and dark and action focused. Enterprise had space 9/11. DS9, the only show to really successfully pull the dark angle, and Discovery spends most of its time being all about as much edge as it can find. Torture, rape, mass destruction, chaos, death, people getting shanked, mauled, mutilated...
TNG had it's moments, sure, but that's all they were. Moments. It didn't spend seven years being grim and dark. In point of fact i'd say the darker moments had that much more power because the show was so often much more humanitarian and pleasant. So whenever the horrible body horror came into play, or the crew were delving into their minds and encountering nightmarish stuff it really kicked it up a notch. Not everything has to be Game of Thrones with sex, debaunchery and horrific death in every corner.
How about something that takes a cue from...
Cosmos? The poetry and beauty of science, discovery, our own human ingenuity. TOS and TNG were nerd Nirvana. They were a strong and a loyal following. Tens of thousands of people went into stem fields or became interested in science and technology because of what Star Trek presented. That kind of show is not the show that Discovery is. It could be the kind of show this second new Star Trek series could be.
As Sir Patrick Stewart himself talks about repeatedly in interviews when asked about TNG, the thing that made him so proud of their work were all the people that approached him over the decades and told him how much the show that TNG WAS is what
SAVED THEIR LIVES.
Personally, with as "meh" as the world feels these days i'd like to see one. Just one show that tries to light the imaginative spark in people again about the future.
I just feel like John Sheridan when it comes to Star Trek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5-sBB9CPKoI know, I know. Muh nostalgia. It won't sell. That was then, this is now. We'll just keep farting out style over substance...
Here's my idea. Instead of destroying the character of Picard by turning him into a bitter asshole, (like they did to Luke in Star Wars) how about he's leading the Star Trek A-Team to reunite the Federation after the destruction of Romulus has generated a geo-political and literal shock-wave through the galaxy? He becomes something of a mentor figure and a teacher for a group of new characters who can handle the action-adventure stuff while he relights the enduring optimism.
"No. There are
better ways, and we were
always able to find them in the past."A group of the Next Generation of Starfleet officers, perhaps very eager for a fight. Cut from the Johnny Rico cloth. Picard, the ideal man to push against that, to try and right the rudders and lead this new generation on a mission that seeks
unity and stability. Old friends become new enemies. Have the status quo switch up in many ways. The destruction of a central power like the Romulans would have DRAMATIC effects on everything around them. How would the Klingons, the remains of the Cardassians, the Orions, the Gorn, react?
Members of the Federation could withdraw after word gets out that maybe what happened to the Romulans wasn't a "natural occurrence."
You want to make a character bitter that it makes sense to have become bitter, and give Picard a very compelling pseudo antagonist?
Riker. We've already seen that side of him in All Good Things. What made him bitter? The death of Deanna Troi. Imagine, say, he was on the USS Titan, on the edge of Romulan space, monitoring the event that lead to the JJ Trek movies, and the Titan was caught in the shock wave.
Badly damaged. Troi dies saving people. Riker, embittered. Even angry that his friend is still vying for peace. Riker could think he's crazy, there's something much more sinister at play. Picard might say "Old friend, now more than ever is the time for us to stand together. We have always been at our best together."
I'd much prefer a Star Trek show that, though it has to acknowledge the great well of darkness that the galaxy has fallen into because of Nemesis, post nemesis, and the events of Countdown that led up to Trek 2009, it immediately jumps to high warp
into the light. Far away from that mess.
I do mostly agree with you.
Although my initial post might not have seemed so, I think they can do traditional Star Trek today.
It just needs a more serious angle about the institutions interconnecting relationships, while never all out war; there was always problems in TNG and DS9.
In the grand tradition of Star Trek, I fully expect this new show to be loaded with political allegory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBJc0kpzNE
Herbert.
QuoteIt'd be great to have a "nice" show in the Star Trek universe again for a change.
Cos it's boring.
Something that just explored space simply based on what we know now, but then extrapolating that to get a close up look at a black hole or a quasar could be fascinating - to a very small audience. Conflict = drama.
Despite its myriad flaws, I always found TOS much more entertaining than TNG, partly because there was no conflict between the crew on TNG. There was no headbutting like Bones and Spock, and everyone just comes off as a bit bland.
QuoteInstead of destroying the character of Picard by turning him into a bitter asshole
It's not destroying the character (since I didn't say to turn him into an arsehole) - the arc would be bringing him back from the hole he's dug himself into.
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2018, 04:21:55 AM
Despite its myriad flaws, I always found TOS much more entertaining than TNG, partly because there was no conflict between the crew on TNG. There was no headbutting like Bones and Spock, and everyone just comes off as a bit bland.
Kirk/Bones
Dammit Jim!
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2018, 12:58:53 AM
Make the premise a sequel to Conspiracy.
There's a fan audio drama that went down that route that I enjoyed well enough. Star Trek: Excelsior.
In regards to TNG - yeah, I rewatch select episodes now and again, but I do big ol' rewatches of the other shows far more than I do TNG. Still excited for Picard back, though.
I wonder if the success of The Orville had any influence on this.
Oh man i really hope this new show will be good, Discovery is ok, Orville is great, the new rebot franchise by abrams was awful, is about time for a real Star Trek show.
There hasn't been any real Star Trek anything since the 90's. So I can't wait to here "energize" once again from Picard.
I still stand by Enterprise S3 and 4. I stand by all of them from Season 3 onwards (aside from TOS, of course. That's gold from the beginning.).
Even Captain War Criminal Janeway?
lol, The worst.
Janeway, the only captain who could deliberately strand her crew on the ass end of the galaxy and get promoted for it. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/ComicBook/status/1027347480076214272
I always thought Shatner could returns in the new flick since the future has been altered and he doesn't have to die on that crummy planet in Generations.
Or he could be resurrected by an alliance of Romulans and Borg.
I would love to see shatner back allways wanted to see his Kirk face the Borg
Quote from: SM on Aug 09, 2018, 06:35:44 AM
Or he could be resurrected by an alliance of Romulans and Borg.
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Quote from: SM on Aug 09, 2018, 06:35:44 AM
I always thought Shatner could returns in the new flick since the future has been altered and he doesn't have to die on that crummy planet in Generations.
Yeah, I suppose he could come back in the future of the JJ-timeline. He'd still be dead in the Prime timeline, though.
Picard and Kirk are still both stuck in the Nexus, the escape was a illusion of the Nexus.
Anyway, the new Picard series sounds great, TNG was my favorite ST series (havent seen DS9 though).
Shatner wrote a book on the resurrection of Kirk by the Borg following the events of Generations.
It's a good read.
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 10, 2018, 02:47:38 AM
Shatner wrote a book on the resurrection of Kirk by the Borg following the events of Generations.
It's a good read.
That was the joke. :P
I've got one of the ships for Star Trek Attack Wing so I have a passing familiarity with that one but I've honestly never been interested in hunting them down.
I finished my next Titan book last week - that was Synthesis - and I enjoyed that. I've actually really been digging the Titan novels.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1028054219255963648
It's hard to imagine them recasting Cap'n Kirk but Thor's part...mebe.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/14/star-trek-discovery-spin-off-titles-leaked-internet-not-drill-7837529/
New titles registered - Star Trek: Destiny and Star Trek: Reliant.
I don't see Destiny being related to the book series as that was a multi-crossover event that spanned Enterprise, post-TNG TNG, Titan and the post-DS9 stuff too.
https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/1029412361977753600
Doesn't seem to have been around massively so don't really have any expectations based on his other work. I'm curious to see what his take on Spock is.
https://twitter.com/ComicBook/status/1036705389104967680
I would totally watch a movie led by McCoy.
https://twitter.com/Marina_Sirtis/status/1036475963796676609
I know he is 38, but he looks too old in my opinion
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1037852952277307392
https://twitter.com/trekdocs/status/1041353534724341761
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Sep 08, 2018, 03:50:32 AM
I know he is 38, but he looks too old in my opinion
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1037852952277307392
Too old for what?
Dunno.
Interestingly Pine is older now than the Shat was during the original series.
Heheh Shat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O59Qf2g7gXs
Star Trek: Discovery Short Trek mini-episodes WON'T air on Netflix in the UK (http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek-discovery/news/a866697/star-trek-discovery-short-trek-mini-episodes-first-look-premiere-date/)
Yay :'(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVRstMA7KJshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnQ-BS7Ui54https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1045737703206264832
https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1044244216677912576
James McAvoy wants to play Young Picard. (https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-james-mcavoy-young-picard/)
TREK TV Animated Again in STAR TREK: LOWER DECKS (http://trekcore.com/blog/2018/10/trek-tv-animated-again-in-star-trek-lower-decks/)
I really like the sounds of the premise. Just curious to see where they go with the humour.
Star Trek: Lower Decks animated comedy series!
When did the world end?
I'm still gutted NetFlix didn't pick them up. No way to watch in the UK. :-\
Picard STAR TREK Series Aiming for Late 2019 Debut (http://trekcore.com/blog/2018/12/cbs-picard-star-trek-series-aiming-for-late-2019-debut/)
I was watching TMP again last night. I tend to think it cops a little too much flak - but by Christ is that movie is dire need of editor. So many superfluous shots during the initial Enterprise flyby.
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Agreed SM. Beauty shots of the Enterprise were a bit much, but it did show the redesign well.
The extended V'ger entry shots were also long and drawn out.
Quote from: SM on Dec 11, 2018, 12:33:14 AM
I was watching TMP again last night. I tend to think it cops a little too much flak - but by Christ is that movie is dire need of editor. So many superfluous shots during the initial Enterprise flyby.
https://media.tenor.com/images/2142527bba4ccc6dcfb42a29b126107a/tenor.gif
For me TMP was just an FX reel. A really pretty FX reel but I always get bored in it.
It has a few good bits for a film where they spend most of their time watching telly. The Enterprise is beautifully shot and the model is exquisite.
I watched all of TOS earlier this year so watched this through the lens of where that left off and where this started. I was really struck by how much the mood and energy lifted in TMP when Bones shows up. It was so incredibly earnest and taking itself desperately seriously before that. Was the transporter accident really necessary? It's kinda metal for Star Trek, but we know the ship isn't ready via other scenes. I guess they had to get rid of Sonak...?
Those FX shots probably cost a ton of money and by god they were going to use them? That has to be it.
Watched the Search for Spock the other night on the telly. It's amazing how watchable older films are. Maybe it's nostalgia.
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This thing uncloaks like a Predator and has a shoulder cannon in the trailer.
Neat.
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Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 14, 2018, 03:13:58 AM
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This thing uncloaks like a Predator and has a shoulder cannon in the trailer.
Neat.
I think it's
Spoiler
Georgeou.
I'm liking the looks of it. Keen to see more. Is it me or have they TOSed up the Discovery a bit too?
Star Trek's Enterprise Just Became a Transformer (https://comicbook.com/2018/12/17/star-trek-transformers-enterprise-fortress-tiberius/?fbclid=IwAR16BZ_RHTrk-LKEXdTrEGDp5iBM2PUT4SOyEt5KkPuM1phHpQIPyE6q2wI)
This is both awesome and ridiculous. :laugh:
(https://media.comicbook.com/2018/12/star-trek-transformers-fortress-tiberius-1150483.jpeg)
https://trekmovie.com/2019/01/08/star-trek-picard-show-to-deal-with-event-that-radically-altered-galaxy-tng-guest-stars-a-possibility/?fbclid=IwAR2Rg08-LmUwOpPWx5n6ecf6i73erONKMoAL3nsumXMzs9aEqEytAbTag_M
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1084861563067158535
They're really going all out with it. Which suits me as long as it's good.
Today's the day! Got to make it through the work day without being spoiled.
ShortTreks are finally on NetFlix too. They're under Trailers in Discovery. The only one that I thought was really good was the Mudd one. The others were okay but nothing I was particularly taken with.
Does anyone else here think that the Ba'ul from the Saru Short Trek might be Ferengi, too? I'm almost convinced of it.
What happens on Kaminar reminds me very strongly on how the Ferengi exploited the population of the pre-warp planet on Voyager during "Lost Profits".
The place where the Kelpians are beamed away actually looked like being constructed by Ferengi.
And which technology, beside Federation tech, might be better suited for communicating with unknown other species, as Saru did when he contacted Starfleet, than that of intergalactic traders like the Ferengi?
I guess it's going to depend on what they're doing with the Kelpians. I can't see the Ferengi using them as slaves or food. The Orions perhaps?
The writers of Discovery apparently like bringing up references to obscure canon issues. The dialogue between Picard and Groppler Zorn in "Encounter at Farpoint" might be another one:
"ZORN: Captain, the Ferengi would be very interested in a base like this.
PICARD: Fine. I hope they find you as tasty as they did their past associates. "
Not that i think that the Ferengi would eat Kelpians, but i could see some unscrupolous Ferengi using them as cattle and selling their meat.
Edit: Another hint for the Ba'ul being Ferengi: In Season 1 there was a reference to the kelpian homeworld as Kelpia.
When the Short Treks arrived, the writers changed the planet name to Kaminar.
What's the name of the Ferengi homeworld? Ferenginar, of course. As we all know.
Ferenginar
Kaminar
Maybe (i)nar is a ferengi term for planet or place...
New possible hints:
https://www.trektoday.com/content/2019/01/saru-in-discoverys-season-two-a-return/
" "Because I'm leaving a pre-warp society secretly, and joining a warp society. And so now what? I can't go back with the knowledge that I have. That would ruin their own natural growth, right? So how do I get back to Kaminar, then. This is going to be a conflict and – yes, there's a lot at stake here, for Saru. And I learn things this year about myself, and some things come up that challenge my perception of what it is to be a Kelpien, what I thought I knew about being a Kelpien. There's so much, my world's a little bit rocked. And going back to Kaminar: can I share what I know? Wow, right? Mystery!" "
Hmm...
https://www.trektoday.com/content/2019/01/mackinnon-familiar-aliens-in-season-two-of-discovery/
I have to say after watching the first few eps of Discovery season 2 - I'm liking it much more than season 1. Digging the guy playing Pike, and they're starting to develop some of the other bridge crew too.
How awesome is Reno too?
Oh yeah. It's much more akin to the Original Series where, unlike TNG, people have actual personalities. Tilly can be little OTT, but I'd rather that than bland.
Always preferred TNG myself, rewatching it now actually.
I watched some of Encounter at Farpoint again the other day.
TNG often had interesting stories, but by Christ were the characters dull.
It doesn't help that all of the TNG era shows took forever to find their feet. TOS hit the ground running.
TNG & DS9 4 lyfe.
Been watching a few of these Steve Shives 'Trek, Actually' vids and he's recently put out a couple of really good ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e7CXa04w_shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqpjYFki2Pg
I always preferred the TOS-movie era myself. I wish TNG had stuck with that aesthetic.
I loved those burgundy uniforms and that blue/green LCARS from 4 to 7.
Yep, that was when the era really hit its sweet spot with regard to production design. I also loved the starship designs and the spacedock.
I always thought TNG brought back the worst elements of TMP, especially those pajama uniforms. Probably because that's what Roddenberry actually preferred.
Well they changed that come Season 3.
The most frustrating thing about 90s Trek is how goddamn long it took them to figure their shows out. I can't imagine having to watch TNG Season 1 week to week, it must have been excruciating.
I still think TMP has some of the most beautiful VFX shots.
(https://i.imgur.com/tAu73G6.jpg)
At the expense of pacing, plot, and character.
Not unlike Alien 3.
And in 1979.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 21, 2019, 03:19:50 PM
I always preferred the TOS-movie era myself. I wish TNG had stuck with that aesthetic.
2 onwards. TMP was aight for a movie where we watch people mostly watching TV, but Meyer and Bennett had the right idea.
TMP was just a glorified FX reel. So boring.
Agreed.
& LT?
(https://i.giphy.com/media/srTYyZ1BjBtGU/giphy.webp)
Quote from: SM on Mar 22, 2019, 06:18:06 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 21, 2019, 03:19:50 PM
I always preferred the TOS-movie era myself. I wish TNG had stuck with that aesthetic.
2 onwards. TMP was aight for a movie where we watch people mostly watching TV, but Meyer and Bennett had the right idea.
Quote from: SM on Sep 28, 2017, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 28, 2017, 06:56:12 AM
Do you still dig it anyway?
Yeah. I even dig Final Frontier.
TMP, yes. TFF, ugh...
Yeah...no to TFF and TMP. The rest of the classics, yes please.
So that last episode of Discovery.
Spoiler
I was pretty f**ked off when they set it up to be Burnham in the suit. Really pleased at the twist in it actually.
The sad part is, I'd rather watch TMP and TFF over Insurrection.
Just get rid of that "Trek" and watch TPM instead. ;)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 23, 2019, 05:25:47 PM
The sad part is, I'd rather watch TMP and TFF over Insurrection.
Because Insurrection is exceedingly dull.
Final Frontier at least has the OG crew.
You'll be disappointed to know that CinemaSins hasn't even covered TFF yet.
Insurrection is worth it if only for "definitely feeling aggressive tendencies!"
I use that quote near enough daily.
Not the one about your boobs firming up?
Only used that one once or twice. Regularly sing those bits of HMS Pinafore, though.
I will admit to some fondness of Insurrection because it's the first one I really remember seeing in the cinema. I know I saw Generations but only remember coming out of it and I was too young for First Contact.
I remember Motion Picture. I remember being fairly bored.
I remember the slugs in Wrath of Khan scaring the crap out of me.
I saw Insurrection and Nemesis in the theaters. Yeah.... :laugh:
I'll give TFF this much: it features one of Goldsmith's best Star Trek scores.
The "I'll die alone" scene wasn't bad either.
So much wasted potential in that movie...
Quote from: Doctor Ash on Jan 21, 2019, 12:37:14 PM
The writers of Discovery apparently like bringing up references to obscure canon issues...
I'll sidestep the possible Ferengi reference & focus on a less obscure canon issue, Spock's childhood.
In the live action Star Trek franchise a character's family relationships & upbringing are probably explored the most with Spock.
- From "Journey to Babel" to "Star Trek" (2009) with several references in between, his earlier life was shown/discussed.
In "Final Frontier" a half brother was added to Spock's early life. It's a retcon which can lead to problems & that points to several things which Star Trek Discovery does;
Referencing canon by making major alterations.
In Discovery the early life of Spock has been changed greatly again & I'm very bothered by that.
I barely got through season 2 episode 1 because of it.
;)
The whole Michael thing is dealt with at the end of Season 2.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 13, 2019, 07:28:52 AM
The whole Michael thing is dealt with at the end of Season 2.
Well, I'll eventually get to that.
But it's slow going as these major changes to established canon in Discovery are an accumulated pain in my brain. :laugh:
That's the reason I'm watching these episodes infrequently.
Still, I'm a completionist with Star Trek so, I'm sticking with this.
;)
https://twitter.com/KateAurthur/status/1128757437081821185
And it's officially called Star Trek Picard now.
I never started the Discovery series because I've had my fill of the Star Trek universe. I recently replayed the three latest films, after that, I thought okay well Star Trek is going on the dormant shelf for awhile. Then shortly after, I bought the 10 film collection, mainly because the collector's set was on sale, and binge watched the entire 10 stretch of films, proving to myself I can't seem to predict my own viewing trend.
Honestly, I'm surprised Trek survived the one two punch of Nemesis bombing and Enterprise getting cancelled.
Well there was a nearly decade long lull in televised Trek and a relatively successful reboot after a 7 year break on that. It just enjoyed itself a little break.
I love it, his flute's part of the soundtrack, no explosions. Just toil on a Vineyard.
Looks like they understand what I love so much about Jean-Luc Picard.
I hope he drops some F-bombs like he did in Logan. Discovery already paved the way.
lol Please no.
"Tell us why you left Starfleet." "I'm f**king 90!"
:laugh:
(https://images2.imgbox.com/de/05/iZhaZYKd_o.jpg)
I absolutely love the leaning into the vineyard for that teaser. And releasing it on the anniversary of TNG's finale. Lovely.
My god, that poster is brilliant. The subtle flute version of Goldsmith's theme was really nice. 8)
Finally got round to watching the rest of Discovery, and ended up watching three and bit episodes back to back and didn't get to sleep till nearly 1am - so hooked was I. It wasn't perfect, but still a very enjoyable series. I like the fact this show has an arc across the series rather than the older series where most of the shows were standalone and the characters have very little development.
https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1138899119978758145
Quote from: Biomechanoid on May 18, 2019, 04:29:24 PM
I never started the Discovery series because I've had my fill of the Star Trek universe. I recently replayed the three latest films, after that, I thought okay well Star Trek is going on the dormant shelf for awhile. Then shortly after, I bought the 10 film collection, mainly because the collector's set was on sale, and binge watched the entire 10 stretch of films, proving to myself I can't seem to predict my own viewing trend.
Your binge watching the Star Trek movies doesn't surprise me. Star Trek is like a large/looming planet in the science fiction universe which pulls on the sci-fi part of the mind.
As for "Discovery", you are saving yourself a lot of cognitive irritation by avoiding it imo.
If you ever do consider checking out "Discovery", in order to protect the logical (Vulcan) part of the mind, I suggest exposing yourself to episodes at a slow pace.
If "Discovery" wasn't Star Trek, it wouldn't matter very much. But the producers claim that "Discovery" is canon in the prime timeline, & fitting it into previous Star Trek can be a like a mind meld gone wrong. For some at least, like me.
;)
You only need TOS, the first six films (regardless of how dull the Motion Picture is), DS9,
TNG and Star Trek First Contact.
(In my opinion.)
I quite enjoy Beyond, but as with the entire reboot Trilogy everything's a ridiculous exaggeration of the original idea.
I hope "Picard"
is more in the spirit of TNG.
Quote from: bb-15 on Jun 14, 2019, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: Biomechanoid on May 18, 2019, 04:29:24 PM
I never started the Discovery series because I've had my fill of the Star Trek universe. I recently replayed the three latest films, after that, I thought okay well Star Trek is going on the dormant shelf for awhile. Then shortly after, I bought the 10 film collection, mainly because the collector's set was on sale, and binge watched the entire 10 stretch of films, proving to myself I can't seem to predict my own viewing trend.
Your binge watching the Star Trek movies doesn't surprise me. Star Trek is like a large/looming planet in the science fiction universe which pulls on the sci-fi part of the mind.
As for "Discovery", you are saving yourself a lot of cognitive irritation by avoiding it imo.
If you ever do consider checking out "Discovery", in order to protect the logical (Vulcan) part of the mind, I suggest exposing yourself to episodes at a slow pace.
If "Discovery" wasn't Star Trek, it wouldn't matter very much. But the producers claim that "Discovery" is canon in the prime timeline, & fitting it into previous Star Trek can be a like a mind meld gone wrong. For some at least, like me.
;)
I have to say I enjoyed the 10 movie binge. Even sat through Star Trek V, trying to find isolated moments of entertainment. And Kirk questioning or challenging "god" is amusing. If you were to ponder on all the sci-fi characters that would dare question god, it wouldn't surprise me if many fans included Kirk on their top list (and perhaps I would include Roy Batty on my list considering the grilling he gave his maker).
I'd say there's a better chance I would revisit the feature films before starting a new TV series or revisiting an existing series. They were fine, but I just like the feature films better. I mean I'm not a Star Trek fanatic or anything. ...........Okay, I admit I do have the Romulan Commander pajamas, but that's where I draw the line. (sorry folks, I know I have used that joke way too often)
I don't own any Star Trek merch,
now that I think of it.
The Motion Picture is the best Star Trek movie.
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Jun 14, 2019, 06:18:41 PM
Quote from: bb-15 on Jun 14, 2019, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: Biomechanoid on May 18, 2019, 04:29:24 PM
I never started the Discovery series because I've had my fill of the Star Trek universe. I recently replayed the three latest films, after that, I thought okay well Star Trek is going on the dormant shelf for awhile. Then shortly after, I bought the 10 film collection, mainly because the collector's set was on sale, and binge watched the entire 10 stretch of films, proving to myself I can't seem to predict my own viewing trend.
Your binge watching the Star Trek movies doesn't surprise me. Star Trek is like a large/looming planet in the science fiction universe which pulls on the sci-fi part of the mind.
As for "Discovery", you are saving yourself a lot of cognitive irritation by avoiding it imo.
If you ever do consider checking out "Discovery", in order to protect the logical (Vulcan) part of the mind, I suggest exposing yourself to episodes at a slow pace.
If "Discovery" wasn't Star Trek, it wouldn't matter very much. But the producers claim that "Discovery" is canon in the prime timeline, & fitting it into previous Star Trek can be a like a mind meld gone wrong. For some at least, like me.
;)
I have to say I enjoyed the 10 movie binge. Even sat through Star Trek V, trying to find isolated moments of entertainment. And Kirk questioning or challenging "god" is amusing. If you were to ponder on all the sci-fi characters that would dare question god, it wouldn't surprise me if many fans included Kirk on their top list (and perhaps I would include Roy Batty on my list considering the grilling he gave his maker).
"ST V: Final Frontier" is an unusual film in how inconsistent it is. There are many moments in isolation which play very well imo.
But somehow Shatner as writer & director covered up the several good moment w/ some terrible humor & poor pacing.
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Jun 14, 2019, 06:18:41 PM
I'd say there's a better chance I would revisit the feature films before starting a new TV series or revisiting an existing series. They were fine, but I just like the feature films better. I mean I'm not a Star Trek fanatic or anything. ...........Okay, I admit I do have the Romulan Commander pajamas, but that's where I draw the line. (sorry folks, I know I have used that joke way too often)
I'm glad you brought up the Star Trek merch. I've got some small ships including an Enterprise Christmas Tree ornament.
No Star Trek pajamas though.
;)
Quote from: bb-15 on Jun 15, 2019, 12:37:55 AM
I'm glad you brought up the Star Trek merch. I've got some small ships including an Enterprise Christmas Tree ornament.
No Star Trek pajamas though.
Before settling on the Romulan pajamas, I had considered the Picard pajamas, but decided to pass.......
(https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/boingboing/original/3X/0/7/074b92acba87640cdb51d49148b738fdd59ce78a.jpg)
Joke aside, I have no merchandise for any movie or show, but I did like building the classic monster universe models as a kid. Since then the closest I've come to owning any movie merchandise is a pair of Lord of the Rings bookends, but they were destroyed in a fire.
https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1148999723019395072
This will be about a Ferengi landlord named Rêv'Enge that wants to get rid of Picard, sends thugs that burn his vines, kill the dog and there we go. The final shot will be Jean drinking the landlord, killed with his grape press. The bottle will be labeled "A Taste of Rêv'Enge", a sweet vintage best served cold.
(https://s18.directupload.net/images/190711/mo5iz8u8.jpg)
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Jul 11, 2019, 05:21:40 AM
This will be about a landlord that wants to get rid of Picard, sends thugs that burn his vines and kill the dog and there we go...
So he goes to the basement with a sledgehammer to dig up his lazer blasters so he can smuggle his clone child into Canada. But it's really not Canada. It's a giant X-Men base that just looks like Canada.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Jul 11, 2019, 05:21:40 AM
This will be about a Ferengi landlord named Rêv'Enge that wants to get rid of Picard, sends thugs that burn his vines, kill the dog and there we go. The final shot will be Jean drinking the landlord, killed with his grape press. The bottle will be labeled "A Taste of Rêv'Enge", a sweet vintage best served cold.
(https://s18.directupload.net/images/190711/mo5iz8u8.jpg)
Jean Wick.
The Jean Wick posters are already all over Twitter. :laugh:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_JV9ymWsAEwnAS?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://images2.imgbox.com/22/96/HUXvXp6z_o.jpg)
Well Picard hates children, so I guess it makes sense he'd end up with a dog instead. :laugh:
Daaaataaaa! :o
Tainted by Voyager shit. :-X
Other than that, looks good.
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1154914296662503424
Just saw on Reuters that Viacom and CBS are officially merging. So Star Trek will be under one umbrella again. Interesting to see how this effects Discovery since the split was why it was so aesthetically different from the rest of the Prime timeline in the first place.
Stuff in series 2 was lifted straight out of The Original Series though.
Quote from: SM on Aug 13, 2019, 09:02:46 PM
Stuff in series 2 was lifted straight out of The Original Series though.
True, but due to the rights issues, the Klingons didn't look like traditional Klingons and the crew of Discovery had different uniforms than TOS. Same thing with the JJ movies. It had to be different enough to get around copyright. And now they don't have those issues.
I'm not sure that's right. I thought the split was between the movies and the shows, so Discovery should have been able to use anything from the shows it wanted.
Spoiler
It did. It used footage and characters from TOS - original characters and recast characters of Pike and Number One.
Ah. I see what's happening. There has been so much back and forth about who owns what due to conspiracy theories about Bad Robot's involvement and rights issues with Discovery. I was incorrect.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KoulbtFC2Ic (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KoulbtFC2Ic)
https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1196932293530550272
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 20, 2019, 12:20:15 AM
https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1196932293530550272
Yeah, I can get behind this 8)
I wonder if that means the pay dispute with Pine has been sorted out.
I'm apprehensive on Picard because of the current show-runner.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 20, 2019, 03:11:08 PM
I'm apprehensive on Picard because of the current show-runner.
Is that Kurtzman?
Dude is running Star Trek at the minute.
I thought Michael Chabon had taken over showrunning duties for Picard.
https://twitter.com/markeiamccarty/status/1200531956548558848
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 01, 2019, 04:09:00 AM
https://twitter.com/markeiamccarty/status/1200531956548558848
:laugh: Never gets old.
https://www.startrek.com/news/dc-fontana-1939-2019
:(
:'( Was really saddened by that. RIP.
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1203849512474812421
Farewell OG Father Mulcahy.
Another one taken by surprise! :'( RIP Rene.
Quote from: VarietyNews of the renewal became evident when the California Film Commission announced which shows would be receiving tax credits in the upcoming year on Monday morning. A season 2 of "Star Trek: Picard" was on the list alongside four new shows including "Nine Perfect Strangers" starring and executive produced by Nicole Kidman, and the "Untitled Showtime Lakers Project" at HBO which hails from executive producer Adam McKay.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1206611198118178818Quote from: VarietyThe "Pulp Fiction" auteur, who intends to retire after making his tenth feature film ("Once Upon a Time..." was his ninth), said that "Star Trek" was too big of a film to be his last.
"Look, I might come up with a really big idea. But right now, the idea of a smaller audience almost all the way around is appealing to me," he said.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1206684024523100167
That last one tickled me, as not long before that, I read another article about how Paramount was still pursuing 2 Trek movies following the merger.
I have to say, I'm glad Tarantino is no longer attached to Trek; he would have made it even worse, IMO.
Why doesn't Tarantino just surprise us all by creating his own sci-fi universe to tell whatever story he wants to tell?
You know what, I'd be really up for that!
It's what Seth McFarlane did and he's been killing it lately. I imagine Tarantino's universe would be a lot meaner though.
I still need to retry Orville. I'm kinda imagining a more brutal Firefly with Tarantino. I think he'd totally go the Western route.
I'm watching The Expanse so it's only fair that you watch The Orville. :P
I like that they're finally doing proper long story arcs in Star Trek now, rather than the old episodic stuff where they hit the reset button each week. Some of the best flicks were the connected Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock and Voyage Home, and some of the Dominion War stuff in DS9 (I only saw parts of it).
DS9 did season long things and was actually quite good. A lot of hits in that show, very character driven too. Really recommend giving that a proper watch.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 04, 2020, 11:53:15 AM
DS9 did season long things and was actually quite good. A lot of hits in that show, very character driven too. Really recommend giving that a proper watch.
I've tried watching DS9 at various times, but if often heads into that old 'Deep Sleep 9' territory.
Like all Trek, it's one of those it gets good in Season 3.
Apart from Voyager and Enterprise (Can't speak to Discovery) that never got any higher in quality, started garbage and continued to be.
I gave up on all Trek series. But I do love watching the original and The Next Generation.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Jan 08, 2020, 08:54:43 AM
Apart from Voyager and Enterprise (Can't speak to Discovery) that never got any higher in quality, started garbage and continued to be.
I'm afraid I disagree with you there. I still stand by that rule for Voyager and Enterprise, especially Season 4 for Enterprise.
Before we got TNG, I wanted a series set in the TOS movie era and literally be about the next generation of Starfleet officers taking command of the Enterprise-A (or B) rather than some ~80-year time jump with pajamas.
Nah I think they had to plow their own road to separate it from TOS and the films - which Roddenberry had (thankfully) lost control of anyway.
Not that I ever really got into TNG. And yes the uniforms were crap compared to the films.
Roddenberry lost control of the films, but he had control of TNG at first. No wonder the first seasons were awful.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-documentary-shows-how-gene-roddenberry-almost-kil-1721153875
I think I watched that movie on Youtube.
I follow David Gerrold on Facebook and he's sometimes alluded to the troubles he had working on TNG. He obviously loves Trek so it must've been pretty painful to walk away in the middle of creating a whole new series because the working conditions became impossible
I feel like the direct to syndication model they were using for distribution was partly why they were so willing to drag ass for two whole seasons on every show. The show being pre-sold gave them the time to f**k about.
Now I think SM should binge TNG.
I've watched enough of TNG thanks. I watched some of a mates VHS tapes 30 years ago and occasionally check if Best of Both Worlds is on cable, otherwise I don't need to see anymore. It just lacks the charm of TOS.
How do you feel?
How do you feel?
How do you feel?
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/23ba9948129801083b3582f9bec8d394/tumblr_pqtah5cagh1qadho7o1_540.gif)
At least there is a consensus that Star Trek is better than Star Wars.
;D
Parts of Trek are conceivably better than Wars. Crap like Insurrection, though? nah.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 09, 2020, 02:17:59 AM
Parts of Trek are conceivably better than Wars. Crap like Insurrection, though? nah.
Yeah, true, Insurrection was rough...
Honestly, for me it's
TOS + The first six films +
TNG + First Contact + DS9.
And the first J.J Abrams one is alright, Into Darkness is... And I like Beyond!
Don't much care for anything else, but I've got a particular distain for Voyager and Captain War Criminal.
I can easily drop TMP and Final Frontier as well.
Yeah, agreed, you don't miss much.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 09, 2020, 02:17:59 AM
Parts of Trek are conceivably better than Wars. Crap like Insurrection, though? nah.
That film gave me one of my favorite and often used quotes!
(https://musingsfromus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Star-Trek-9-Insurrection-1998-ScreenShot-28.jpg)
Definitely feeling aggressive tendencies, sir!
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2020, 11:15:09 PM
Not that I ever really got into TNG. And yes the uniforms were crap compared to the films.
The TMP-era films are my favourite uniforms. But I do love those First Contact styles too. Thankfully they made their way into DS9.
Agreed on the uniforms, but honestly, it's not a big price to pay for good writing apart from, y'know, the mind rape.
I like TOS, TNG, some of DS9, and the first 4 TOS movies. I'm struggling to remember the TNG movies save for Generations (I saw it in theatres). It was okay.
I also like the first JJ Trek. The 2nd was meh. I didn't like the last one much at all.
Quote from: razeak on Jan 09, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
I like TOS, TNG, some of DS9, and the first 4 TOS movies. I'm struggling to remember the TNG movies save for Generations (I saw it in theatres). It was okay.
I also like the first JJ Trek. The 2nd was meh. I didn't like the last one much at all.
I like the first JJ Trek too actually. Generations I found quite disappointing though. And First Contact was a tad overrated at the time, I would say.
Give me Wrath of Khan, Search For Spock (underrated imo) and Voyage Home anyday, which can be purely viewed as a trilogy, even though it wasn't officially released / labeled as such.
Quote from: razeak on Jan 09, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
I also like the first JJ Trek. The 2nd was meh. I didn't like the last one much at all.
I thought the first was okay and Into Darkness was utter garbage.
Beyond was the best of the 3 new Treks. The biggest issue it had was having yet another villain who was out for revenge. But aside from that it was a solid movie with great chemistry amongst the cast. I really liked that it was set during the 5 year mission compared to the other two movies which were not. Was a nice return to the trekking of Trek.
The Motion Picture is best Trek.
Quote from: Alien³ on Jan 09, 2020, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: razeak on Jan 09, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
I also like the first JJ Trek. The 2nd was meh. I didn't like the last one much at all.
I thought the first was okay and Into Darkness was utter garbage.
Beyond was the best of the 3 new Treks. The biggest issue it had was having yet another villain who was out for revenge. But aside from that it was a solid movie with great chemistry amongst the cast. I really liked that it was set during the 5 year mission compared to the other two movies which were not. Was a nice return to the trekking of Trek.
I concur with this assessment. I thought the reboot was a clever way to do it and made sense within the rules of the universe. But it still had some daft decisions. I'll never get over them letting Kirk keep the Enterprise. It was so f**king stupid. Into Darkness was just pure trash. But Beyond I thought was more more within the spirit of Star Trek and genuinely good.
The final nail for me was the Beastie Boys super weapon. Its so cool and immeasurably stupid at the same time.
It delved into 90s budget action a few times before that. I wasn't impressed with much of the design aesthetic. The cast is the best thing.
It has a lot of high points though. I can admit that.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2020, 03:59:59 PM
But Beyond I thought was more more within the spirit of Star Trek and genuinely good.
It was also made good by the fact one didn't need to see Into Darkness to understand the plot. Heck, you probably didn't even need to see the first JJ movie.
Quote from: razeak on Jan 09, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
The final nail for me was the Beastie Boys super weapon. Its so cool and immeasurably stupid at the same time.
I thought that was silly but was fitting. Perhaps it was the Beastie Boys that made it feel stupid, I mean had it be something Picard was utilising they would have been blasting out Heart of Oak.
I think about 85-90% of Into Darkness is really, really good, but the last stretch where it just repeats Wrath of Khan and ends with a meh chase scene bring it down a fair bit.
Qo'nos is very Star War-ish in Into Darkness.
Quote from: razeak on Jan 09, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
The final nail for me was the Beastie Boys super weapon. Its so cool and immeasurably stupid at the same time.
Ugh.
This so much. Didn't the intended original director say they wanted to make Star Trek Beyond more like Guardians of the Galaxy?
I'm with you brother. I'd rank them:
Star Trek >>>>> Star Trek ID > Star Trek Beyond
With the first film being the only one I own on blu.
I feel strongly that Beyond is the best of the new ST films.
Admiral Raan was in it.
Beastie Boyz songs were in the first two as well.
Beastie Boys songs should be in every movie.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 09, 2020, 10:12:49 PM
Beastie Boyz songs were in the first two as well.
True, but it felt more organic, natural if you will when it was young Kirk stealing his Dad's classic car and turning on the radio, trying to outrun a cop. For me, in Beyond, it was a bit of an eyeroll.
Yeah, that I will grant you. As much as I really love Beyond, I did roll my eyes a little at that one too. Same as with the coming out of the water - again - scene. I think I groaned out load in the cinema at that one. :laugh: But I do love revisiting that film. I thought Yorktown was a pretty cool location too.
Beyond also (to my knowledge) doesn't blatantly rip off ideas from other movies.
Into Darkness = Wrath of Kahn
Star Trek (2009) =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE6s3H7twxYOh JJ will you ever stop plagiarising?
Quote from: Alien³ on Jan 10, 2020, 09:53:29 AM
Beyond also (to my knowledge) doesn't blatantly rip off ideas from other movies.
Into Darkness = Wrath of Kahn
Star Trek (2009) =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE6s3H7twxY
Oh JJ will you ever stop plagiarising?
I'm the last person to defend JJ, and I can see a bit of that, but some of that requires a lot of stretching and looking from a far. And of course, those big ships existed long before Lucas' big ships ever did.
Picard has lost multiple showrunners and it's not even aired. I'm worried.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 09, 2020, 03:33:14 PM
The Motion Picture is best Trek.
That's a claim you don't see too often.
I can't in good conscience call it the best, but I did like it despite its flaws. I re-watch it quite often.
I'm sure I've said this before, probably more than once, but it's not a bad flick considering they spend most of their time watching the telly.
Looking forward to Star Trek Picard. This is the first time since Star Trek Nemesis we've seen the TNG/DS9/VOY era. Plus has anyone picked up the Star Trek Picard - Countdown comic yet?
The new season of star trek is going to be just like the episode of TNG all good things where Picard is old as hell and every one thinks he's senile. Except Picard is old and senile for real now and he isn't time travelling... Bah I'm just kidding in looking forward to this release alot!
Totally off topic but funny. Haven't watched any st in a while watching those trailers reminds me of a time my wife came home all mad at me and a friend for being half in the bag in the middle of the afternoon. He just looks at me and said "Zima at Anzo" I replied fearfully "Zinda his face black his eyes red." she really got steamed started asking "what the f*CK are you idiots talking about." My buddy stands up points to my front door and tells "mirab with sails unfurled" like a captain giving an order. And we buggered off to the Pub for a few hours lolol.
I already said it on Trekbbs, i believe Data will revealed to be alive as a surprise on Picard and maybe he is even one of the rogue synths...
God, is Trekbbs still around?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 13, 2020, 03:11:35 PM
God, is Trekbbs still around?
Yeah, still alive and kicking
https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1220109204977004546
Glad to hear that! I always did love their relationship.
And it's that time of year where I've got to get through a day or two without seeing Trek spoilers!
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1220844868068462592?s
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 28, 2020, 03:30:19 PM
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1220844868068462592?s
Huh... I guess the logo designer is a Trek fan. Well, it's certainly better than what that Disney artist did to The Little Mermaid! :laugh:
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 28, 2020, 03:30:19 PM
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1220844868068462592?s
Huh... I guess the logo designer is a Trek fan. Well, it's certainly better than what that Disney artist did to The Little Mermaid! :laugh:
Sometimes people just see what they want to see
So this Picard show was thoroughly underwhelming.
For me it's been strongest during the reunion moments, and their daughter whose name I can't currently but was named after Deanna's dead sister, was absolutely wonderful. I am bored of these mystery box stories now though, and would like them to try something different next.
When Riker and Picard were just sitting on the pond and discussing retirement, I kept wishing the latter would say something like "James Kirk warned me about this."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJiU9BOEBI
Picard would probably rather not think about the time he failed to save a legend.
And all that "greatest captain ever" talk would have been amusing if someone said "besides James T. Kirk?"
Finished the 'original' film run last night with Nemesis. I think it's slightly better then Insurrection, but both are pretty dull. In fact most of Next Gen stuff is dull. Even First Contact which is generally pretty decent, the characters apart form Picard and Data are just boring and interchangeable.
The space battles in Nemesis and Insurrection are more flashy, but ultimately a bit boring. The much slower battle in Khan was way more exciting. Enterprise ramming the Scimitar was cool - but why didn't they just ram them again after the Scimitar pulled back? Data's leap through space had potential too, but was badly edited. Even the whole idea of Data and Picard having these mirror images had potential - but they were just both completely plucked out of nowhere. On what planet did they think this would be a fitting conclusion to Next Generation? And it would've been really great to see Picard lose it when Data is killed. Turn around and fling the transporter button thing at the wall or something. Both Insurrection and Nemesis just seemed completely inconsequential. About as inconsequential as Kirk dying to save the population of a planet we never see...
Now you need to watch Picard and let us know whether you dig or bury.
Is it on Amazon? I think the First Lady recently signed up for a trial. Might give it a crack. The Boys first though.
I think it's available on Amazon outside the US. That would be you. Now for a well-edited compiiation of inspirational Trek speeches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNu1cdISsvY
I just adore John de Lancie.
^ Agent Darkbootie?
https://twitter.com/brianwatson80/status/1250396434777554944
After watching ST3 again, it just occurred to me: why did Kirk return to Genesis? Spock's katra was already in McCoy's head. Why didn't they just go straight to Vulcan? Did they know Spock was alive? If so, there's a pretty significant scene missing in which they found out about that.
I came across this interview of DeForest Kelley. I thought I'd share it if anyone else hasn't seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUW16B5LgYk
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 21, 2020, 02:56:15 AM
After watching ST3 again, it just occurred to me: why did Kirk return to Genesis? Spock's katra was already in McCoy's head. Why didn't they just go straight to Vulcan? Did they know Spock was alive? If so, there's a pretty significant scene missing in which they found out about that.
I always thought it was to unite the katra and the body. They didn't expect to find Spock alive.
Concept art for The Motion Picture.
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Quote from: SM on Apr 21, 2020, 06:39:52 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 21, 2020, 02:56:15 AM
After watching ST3 again, it just occurred to me: why did Kirk return to Genesis? Spock's katra was already in McCoy's head. Why didn't they just go straight to Vulcan? Did they know Spock was alive? If so, there's a pretty significant scene missing in which they found out about that.
I always thought it was to unite the katra and the body. They didn't expect to find Spock alive.
Why would they want to unite his katra with a corpse? I always thought the whole point was to transfer their katras into a
living body before they died.
"I had assumed he mind melded with you. It is the Vulcan way when the body's end is near."
The theoretical missing scene should have been set immediately after David and Saavik found Spock's empty tube and heard him cry out. The one we actually got was Kirk asking Admiral Morrow to let him take the Enterprise back to Genesis.
Not sure how it works, but the body must be involved since Spock through Bones asks Kirk 'Why did you leave me on Genesis?'.
Some model work for V'ger.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugzWvWUSPILive in 22 hours
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Wrong show, CinemaSpot. It's been a while since I watched Menagerie. Did Kirk even have anything to do with Pike prior to taking command in the "prime" timeline?
IIRC, they were well enough acquainted that Kirk called him "Chris" in The Menagerie, but I don't think they ever served together on the same ship.
Maybe the Enterprise will encounter the Farragut or something.
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1261307659178831874
Finally a show that looks like it's worth watching.
It's evidentially going to be episodic in nature which'll be a breath of fresh air in this new age. I like arc based adventures, but I'm bored of the ones focused around mystery, but I'm still interested to see how they handle a return to that olden style of story-telling for Trek.
I don't mind arcs, but I also don't like the plot-reset button that the TNG-era used so often. I hope this show can avoid that and the technobabble solutions to problems in the last five minutes of each episode. I also hope the collective amnesia about things that warrant mentioning in later episodes doesn't afflict this crew.
Completely agree. I like the idea of episodic, but it still needs to matter going forward.
I'll take overall arc way of doing things over the old every episode exists in a vacuum approach.
Episodic seemed to work very very well for the trek franchise.
It's why Trek still exists.
Quote from: SM on May 18, 2020, 01:31:40 AM
I'll take overall arc way of doing things over the old every episode exists in a vacuum approach.
"Hey, remember that thing/being we encountered two episodes ago that would easily solve our problem in this episode? Yeah, me neither!"
I think Voyager and to a lesser extent TNG suffered from this, and it's more about the lack of development of characters and their relationships. Tom and B'Elanna hooked up on Voyager but that was more or less it. And Harry never gets promoted. Seven years worth of adventures and ordeals and trauma on all these shows (perhaps less so on DS9) and everything they've gone through hasn't particularly changed them that much. On TNG it's very often just about Picard and Data, and even their progress is minimal.
Did you finally binge through TNG? Also, Rick Berman sounds like a real charmer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeSz2gW8IsE
I've seen a lot of TNG but I don't ever imagine I'll watch all of it.
And Berman, yeah... I watched a video about him recently. Might've been one of Steve Shives, can't remember. It sounds like Ira Steven Behr at DS9 wanted to have more ongoing stories and was consistently blocked by Berman (among many of Berman's other crimes).
Berman and Randy should hang out.
Randy could share his flash drive with him at a Medieval Times restaurant.
Quote from: SM on May 18, 2020, 01:31:40 AM
I'll take overall arc way of doing things over the old every episode exists in a vacuum approach.
I'm in if they go the Enterprise S3/4 or the DS9 approach to arc based storytelling. It's really just my distaste of the last 3 seasons of Trek all focusing around a mystery to solve at the end of the arc. I'm just bored of it now.
I haven't watched all of Picard yet. The first few eps were okay, and Discovery had been sluggish in patches. But in their favour is the fact that they're only around 13 or 14 episodes and the good episodes vs bad episodes hit rate is higher. I've only recently realised that this is the kind of storytelling I prefer even going back to when I was child. My favourite shows were things like Star Blazers (aka Space Battleship Yamato) or Monkey, where, while episodic there was an overarching story or quest. Robotech was another one that was even more focused on the overall story. I enjoy TOS primarily because of Kirk, Spock and McCoy despite it being episodic and often uneven, plus I came to it the long way round via the films (and a few re-runs in the 70s).
I don't disagree with you at all! The stories that have lasting impact are just far more satisfying and I prefer them too. If SNW does go episodic, I think it'd be too regressive of it to lack over-arching development. I think it's just the idea of the actual stories being tied up that I'm looking forward. No mystery that we all guessed 4 or 5 episodes ago that aren't satisfying because of it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 18, 2020, 04:05:27 AM
Did you finally binge through TNG? Also, Rick Berman sounds like a real charmer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeSz2gW8IsE
Yeah, Berman really wasn't that pleasant from the sounds of it. Braga also tended to get a lot of stick for the quality of the show. It's a shame Coto didn't get more to make his mark. That video calls out Season 4 of Enterprise, but I'm pretty sure Coto had a good deal to do with 3 too, both of which I thought were pretty strong. It's a shame he didn't get to do his S5.
Watching it right now! :laugh:
Just saw Star Trek: The Motion Picture for the first time (getting through TOS, the movies, TNG etc) and thought it was great despite hearing how boring it was. Lots of visuals and a glacial pace are right up my alley and the part when they are inspected by Viger's probe was very Lynchian. Loved it. Wrath of Khan tonight.
I recall the longer cut being much better, it's the theatrical version that bores me to tears.
I haven't seen the TNG movies, just the TOS and Abrams stuff, but of those nine films The Motion Picture is my favorite.
I don't think any of the TNG movies would change your mind.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 22, 2020, 05:46:46 PM
I recall the longer cut being much better, it's the theatrical version that bores me to tears.
I looked up the differences and the running time is different by 4 mins? I did see the theatrical. It was totally my jam. I'm gonna watch up to movie 6 then switch to watching TNG the show.
At 50:57 of the video bellow.
Quote from: Jeri Ryan via Star Trek: Voyager online cast reunionWe are waiting to see...We are just in a holding pattern. We were originally supposed to start shooting in the middle of June, but they would have had to start building the sets at the beginning of May, which we can't do. So, we are just waiting. They are hoping we can start shooting in the fall. I don't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo8cVby5ag4
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1272705262806355968
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Thanks to Mike from RedLetterMedia I've learned that everybody steals everything from Star Trek
Quote from: via io9"Abdin's space-traveling tardigrade is an unprotectable idea because it is a generalized expression of a scientific fact—namely, the known ability of a tardigrade to survive in space..." Judge Chin's opinion reads in part, after citing scientific experiments conducted in 2007 about tardigrades' ability to survive in the vacuum of space. "By permitting Abdin to exclusively own the idea of a space-traveling tardigrade, this Court would improperly withdraw that idea from the public domain and stifle creativity naturally flowing from the scientific fact that tardigrades can survive the vacuum of space."
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I really enjoyed the last episode of Lower Decks. I was grinning throughout that episode. In general, I've been rather enjoying the show. It feels self-aware, but not to the point of taking the piss out of its audience like Big Bang became.
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QuoteEighteen years after her last appearance in Star Trek: Nemesis, we've just learned that the most caffiene-fueled Starfleet officer will be back in uniform — in animated form, anyway — when Star Trek: Prodigy beams down to Nickelodeon in 2021!
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The psycho captain is back.
That Lower Decks finale! :laugh: :laugh: I don't tend to buy Trek until they hit their stride in 3, and Picard and Discovery aren't purchase worthy currently IMHO, but I'm buying Lower Decks when that comes up. It's f**king brilliant.
Vulcans and Romulans: Exploring one of the most crucial schisms in the Star Trek universe.
https://www.startrek.com/news/vulcans-and-romulans-a-primer-on-unification
Nice to hear that production for the Star Trek: Voyager dcumentary has resumed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reApQlk5JiA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reApQlk5JiA)
Quote from: Phobos on Dec 04, 2020, 10:23:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDyZ-cMlnlQ
Not sure why you'd bother with Wrath of Khan. If they want to update VFX - do it for Final Frontier.
And fix the deck numbers in the turboshaft while you're at it.
Quote from: SM on Dec 07, 2020, 11:46:17 PM
Quote from: Phobos on Dec 04, 2020, 10:23:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDyZ-cMlnlQ
Not sure why you'd bother with Wrath of Khan. If they want to update VFX - do it for Final Frontier.
Any excuse to rewatch this sequence though.
I have to say this: When it comes to Discovery and the upcoming Strange New Worlds, I don't mind some minor aesthetic tweaking to make it look somewhat more up to date, but they really shouldn't have changed the TOS look so radically.
This is several years old, but it just now popped up as a recommended video on YouTube for me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCPdmOuzYrMI think it would be awesome if they could do that for the whole series (while preserving the original for posterity, of course).
What's wrong with the chair exactly?
I remember seeing that when it made the rounds originally. I thought it looked fantastic. I'd love to see that happen. Probably never will, I imagine that'd be some intensive work.
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 25, 2021, 04:51:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq1Wmfr4XKQ
Love the one random HD shot from DS9 that got done for the documentary in there. I really can't wait for Strange New Worlds. Pike and Mount have been one of my favourite things from the new era.
Quote from: SM on Mar 28, 2021, 03:25:58 AM
What's wrong with the chair exactly?
It was always a bit bulky, but I mostly like the lighting and that the display screens actually have comprehensible graphics on them.
Didn't even notice the screens, but the chair replacement is a waste of time.
Do you draw the line at the chair?
It's just pointless.
Well, they did change the chair for TMP and beyond so...
It's amazing what software can do these days, but "just because you can do such a thing doesn't mean you should". Except maybe fix those wonky buttons on some of those comlocks.
Hadn't seen that. Thanks. Lots of clever work on that design. I enjoy the unlit original, but find the razz-ma-tazz looks great on the TMP version. Before DSC came around, I remember seeing lots of nice takes on the original design (https://forgottentrek.com/designing-the-first-enterprise/). Lots of old artwork to mine going forward. That being said, I even have a fondness for this "bad little motor-scooter"...
(https://forgottentrek.com/wp-content/uploads/2005/07/Enterprise-concept-art-1-600x323.png)
Q coming back could certainly be interesting.
I've wondered, if the new shows bring the Klingons back, how should they be presented? I say they should just utilize the TMP/TNG look. I'm afraid I'm among those who positively hated the redesign on Discovery.
So I've been (re-)watching all of the Star Trek movies lately. In the past I'd seen all six TOS movies and the three Kelvin movies, but this marked my first time seeing the TNG movies. As far as the shows go, the only one I'm really familiar with is TOS (which I've seen a bunch of random episodes of and always have a blast with whenever I catch one, but I haven't seen it beginning to end). Watching the TNG movies for the first time has me interested in finally checking out the TNG series one of these days. I didn't really love any of the TNG movies, but I'm excited about the group of characters presented in them and would love to see them in a more "space adventure of the week" setting rather than the big action spectacle pieces that the films were. As for the Kelvin stuff, Beyond is actually my favorite of the three of those; it almost feels like it could be a random episode of TOS, with the characters on their five year mission on a strange alien world.
But, anyways, my ABSOLUTE favorite Star Trek film is easily The Motion Picture, which I'm aware isn't exactly the most popular opinion. TMP just does it all for me though. It's gorgeous, it's a more cerebral Trek without a real "bad guy," V'Ger is endlessly fascinating... I adore it. Anyone else feel this way about TMP?
And anyone have any particular recommendations on where I should take my Trek viewing next, once I finish my movie marathon?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 03, 2021, 12:22:35 PM
So I've been (re-)watching all of the Star Trek movies lately. In the past I'd seen all six TOS movies and the three Kelvin movies, but this marked my first time seeing the TNG movies. As far as the shows go, the only one I'm really familiar with is TOS (which I've seen a bunch of random episodes of and always have a blast with whenever I catch one, but I haven't seen it beginning to end). Watching the TNG movies for the first time has me interested in finally checking out the TNG series one of these days. I didn't really love any of the TNG movies, but I'm excited about the group of characters presented in them and would love to see them in a more "space adventure of the week" setting rather than the big action spectacle pieces that the films were. As for the Kelvin stuff, Beyond is actually my favorite of the three of those; it almost feels like it could be a random episode of TOS, with the characters on their five year mission on a strange alien world.
But, anyways, my ABSOLUTE favorite Star Trek film is easily The Motion Picture, which I'm aware isn't exactly the most popular opinion. TMP just does it all for me though. It's gorgeous, it's a more cerebral Trek without a real "bad guy," V'Ger is endlessly fascinating... I adore it. Anyone else feel this way about TMP?
And anyone have any particular recommendations on where I should take my Trek viewing next, once I finish my movie marathon?
To add on to this:
I just reached
Into Darkness in my rewatch and it is honestly so much worse than I remember it being. Honestly, as rough as the TNG movies can get, I think I'd actually say this is worse. There's no sense of adventure or exploration or, hell, even simple science-fiction. It's just mostly a crass, ominously militaristic action movie centered on/around Earth.
About the only things good about it, I'd say, are the cast playing the Enterprise crew, and the fact that it ends with the Enterprise's five year mission beginning and thus guaranteeing that the next movie would actually see the characters, you know, exploring space. In a Star Trek movie. Wild concept, I know.
I look forward to revisiting
Beyond. If it is as fun as I remember it being in the theater, it should wash the taste of this one out of my mouth.
There's not really much exploration in the movies, period. They don't even leave the solar system in your favorite one.
But that one at least deals with some interesting sci-fi concepts and has a sense of discovery and earnestness to it. :D
I can get behind The Voyage Home as well, despite being set mostly on Earth (and in the 'real world,' to boot!) because I really like the critical eye it has on humanity's past (present?) and the baked in optimistic outlook on how we can/should be better. Plus, the whale probe is just a damn cool concept.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 04, 2021, 09:50:27 PM
There's not really much exploration in the movies, period. They don't even leave the solar system in your favorite one.
It was all about exploring "the human condition," not necessarily outer space, don't you know.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 03, 2021, 12:22:35 PM
I didn't really love any of the TNG movies, but I'm excited about the group of characters presented in them and would love to see them in a more "space adventure of the week" setting rather than the big action spectacle pieces that the films were.
* Eyes narrow at someone saying they didn't love First Contact * though, to be fair, if you weren't already attached to the Borg.
QuoteAs for the Kelvin stuff, Beyond is actually my favorite of the three of those; it almost feels like it could be a random episode of TOS, with the characters on their five year mission on a strange alien world.
Yeah, Beyond is definitely the best of the Kelvin stuff. It's a damn shame it didn't do better. It made far more sense and felt more like Star Trek than the previous two.
I LOVE First Contact, and I am full aware of it's faults, from perhaps the greatest commentary I have ever listened to, repeatedly because it always sends me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBigb-kI-KQ
Yeah First Contact was mostly pretty cool. I didn't love the Borg side of things (though it made me VERY interested in their appearances in TNG proper, where they're likely given much more time to properly do their thing) but I thought the actual time travel incident surrounding First Contact with the Vulcans was very fun.
I also really loved the idea of the whole idea of the Nexus in Generations (that feels right at home in the fun wonky space phenomena I love in my ST).
I just feel that, by and large, the TOS films overall work better as actual movies than the TNG ones do. Though like I said, I have seen quite a few TOS episodes whereas I haven't yet for TNG, so that might also play into things in ways I'm not realizing.
The TNG movies were written largely by TV writers, and Generations and Insurrection feel like really, really long episodes. The exception was Nemesis, which still isn't exactly John Logan's best writing.
I'm a big fan of Ron Moore, but I do think his writing style is better suited for an episodic form. I thought the same thing about the BSG TV movies, compared to the series proper.
I plan on checking out For All Mankind soon.
Speaking of him, I've been meaning to read Moore's Thing prequel script, scanned it in not long ago.
Season 1 was fine, although Sir Patrick could do with something to prop those eyes open with. I've enjoyed him as Jean-Luc since TNG days, but dude looks sleepy in these...
Was a real plesaure to hear Q's voice again. I just hope we don't have this big mystery of what happened to the timeline/reality going off - Q did it, leave it at that.
@TNF
Can you blame him?
He wanted "Logan" for Jean-Luc Picard and got garbage.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Jun 17, 2021, 10:54:08 AM
@TNF
Can you blame him?
He wanted "Logan" for Jean-Luc Picard and got garbage.
;)
Just finished Reunion episode from TNG S4. God, I love Worf's story so much. My fav character next to Data.
Yep, I enjoyed watching Michael Dorn grow into that character through good stories.
About time too! - https://trekmovie.com/2021/07/07/star-trek-the-motion-picture-directors-edition-to-be-restored-in-4k-hdr-for-paramount/
Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Jul 08, 2021, 01:03:05 AM
About time too! - https://trekmovie.com/2021/07/07/star-trek-the-motion-picture-directors-edition-to-be-restored-in-4k-hdr-for-paramount/
YES
They're doing a 4K box set as well... but it's only 1-4. Not that 4K will help 5's special effects at all, but it would be nice to have.
I really enjoyed Discovery Season One, I need to watch Season Two.
I think, like all Trek, Discovery has found it's feet at Season 3. I still wish they'd abandon the big season long mystery to solve, but I did enjoy it much more than the others.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1415092642703200256
Hoping for something cool here! Preferably something more Beyond than Into Darkness...
EDIT: At the time this article was published, it mentioned that Chris Pine and the rest of the cast from the Kelvin films would be returning. That line has since been removed from the article.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 13, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
I think, like all Trek, Discovery has found it's feet at Season 3. I still wish they'd abandon the big season long mystery to solve, but I did enjoy it much more than the others.
Its good to have Rated R Trek after Abrams Kelvin Timeline.
It seems that the goal here is to continue the Kelvin timeline, though. Which I'm all for, as I think the cast is great. I just hope that what we get is more in the spirit of The Original Series/Beyond, and less like JJ's own contributions. The 2009 movie is a fun start, for what it is, but I really do not like Into Darkness at all. Of the thirteen Trek films, I think I'd actually call Into Darkness the worst - yes, even below The Final Frontier and the TNG films. Thankfully Beyond really washed that taste out of my mouth and left me optimistic about where these characters might go in the future.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 14, 2021, 07:16:36 PM
It seems that the goal here is to continue the Kelvin timeline, though. Which I'm all for, as I think the cast is great. I just hope that what we get is more in the spirit of The Original Series/Beyond, and less like JJ's own contributions. The 2009 movie is a fun start, for what it is, but I really do not like Into Darkness at all. Of the thirteen Trek films, I think I'd actually call Into Darkness the worst - yes, even below The Final Frontier and the TNG films. Thankfully Beyond really washed that taste out of my mouth and left me optimistic about where these characters might go in the future.
They were fun movies to be sure, but its lazy writing to abandon story continuity and create a alternate reality so you can do what you want.
That said its the trend and I will return to my Intrepid Class Ship and sulk.
Oh it definitely needs to be more Beyond than the other 2. I love the cast for the Kelvinverse. I think they're spot on. But Star Trek (as much as I like the angle they went for the reboot), genuinely pisses me off sometimes. The transwarp beaming and them letting Kirk keep the f**king ship! And Into Darkness is just pure trash. I'd rather watch FF than Into Darkness. But Beyond was just a pure delight (the ship being destroyed/majorly damaged yet again and the Enterprise having to burst from something vaporish again all aside) and I really enjoyed! I'm happy for more Kelvin.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2021, 09:54:49 AM
And Into Darkness is just pure trash. I'd rather watch FF than Into Darkness. But Beyond was just a pure delight
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Insurrection is the worst.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2021, 09:54:49 AM
Oh it definitely needs to be more Beyond than the other 2. I love the cast for the Kelvinverse. I think they're spot on. But Star Trek (as much as I like the angle they went for the reboot), genuinely pisses me off sometimes. The transwarp beaming and them letting Kirk keep the f**king ship! And Into Darkness is just pure trash. I'd rather watch FF than Into Darkness. But Beyond was just a pure delight (the ship being destroyed/majorly damaged yet again and the Enterprise having to burst from something vaporish again all aside) and I really enjoyed! I'm happy for more Kelvin.
At last someone who hates Into The Darkness like me!
There is only one Khan:
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It should have been a retake of Where No Man Has Gone Before, not Wraith of Khan. They didn't deserve that.
Honestly most of the movie felt more like Undiscovered Country than Wrath of Khan to me. Until the last, what, twenty minutes? Which from what I understand they brought in Lindelof to help with? :laugh:
Khan's miracle blood also destroyed all tension for the future. Much like Prof. Hugo Strange did in Gotham TV series by bringinfg back dead characters.
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OK, Internet, explain WTF is this ?
https://twitter.com/JordanMaison/status/1458563247079149576
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1463549741640282114
https://twitter.com/ComicBookNOW/status/1493716994511753222
Oh, me like.
I love the cast. But I'm more curious as to who is writing this - Pegg's the only one who's actually gotten a "good" story out of these reboots (though I do genuinely love the reboot angle, but the stories have been too daft imho).
I know just a man who will be soooo happy to hear the news:
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https://collider.com/star-trek-4-cast-surprise-paramount/ (https://collider.com/star-trek-4-cast-surprise-paramount/)
https://youtu.be/SP2HJ_XppbU (https://youtu.be/SP2HJ_XppbU)
OH. MY. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD !
This modern incarnation of Trek is such a waste of great sets and CG. Imagine a well-written series set during the TOS movies with the same advantages.
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1502060593695666177
So the last episode of Discovery was the first of Season 4 I've actually enjoyed.
And I've been genuinely enjoying the first 2 episodes of Season 2 of Picard too. I'm actually excited for next week to see more.
Just looking forward to Discovery to finish up Season 4 so I can get Strange New Worlds. I just hope that's good.
Forever a Voyager fan.
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That looks amazing, but I've seen Discovery and Picard so I remain skeptical...
Season 2 of Picard has been pretty enjoyable so far!
Spoiler
Though I'm 100% sure the new Queen is going to be a past version of Agnes, and I'm not keen on how they're handling that particular aspect.
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https://youtu.be/7hT02PbAauM
https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1520047754667610113
Lens flares in every shot. ::)
As long as they're not blindingly bright a la the Total Recall remake, they don't bother me.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 08:43:35 AMSeason 2 of Picard has been pretty enjoyable so far!
Spoiler
Though I'm 100% sure the new Queen is going to be a past version of Agnes, and I'm not keen on how they're handling that particular aspect.
I take all this back. Picard Season 2 has gone off the rails. Did they just forget to rewatch any episodes with the Borg in them? Hate this new take.
It's all awful garbage.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 03, 2022, 10:52:14 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 08:43:35 AMSeason 2 of Picard has been pretty enjoyable so far!
Spoiler
Though I'm 100% sure the new Queen is going to be a past version of Agnes, and I'm not keen on how they're handling that particular aspect.
I take all this back. Picard Season 2 has gone off the rails. Did they just forget to rewatch any episodes with the Borg in them? Hate this new take.
I'm no Trekkie but I am a big fan of yours work and RLM and I was quite disturbed by the fact your ppinion on Picard S2 didn't line up with theirs. Glad that contradiction was eliminated
I've been dismayed by Hicks' enthusiasm for Kurtzman Trek for quite a while now. Glad to see he's finally joining the rest of us in the muck.
To be honest I've hit that wall now. I was willing to give Discovery a go, but after Season 4 I'm just fed-up of it. I wasn't too enthusiastic about Season 1 of Picard after it was all done, but the start of Season 2 was genuinely enjoyable. Sad thing is I'll keep watching out of commitment to the franchise and a desire to know what goes on, but it feels more like a chore than anything.
I do actually love Lower Decks though. And I am looking forward to Strange New Worlds, but can't help but feel like it wont be handled well despite the cast.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 04, 2022, 07:53:47 AMSad thing is I'll keep watching out of commitment to the franchise and a desire to know what goes on, but it feels more like a chore than anything.
So you'll keep watching Trek no matter what but if David turns out to be The Space Jockey you gonna flip out and quit Alien franchise altogether, huh ?
I don't spend a good chunk of my time devoted to Star Trek outside of just watching it. :P
I think Abrams Trek wore out its welcome quickly too. I have zero desire to revisit that iteration of ST and I wish they'd just let it die a graceful death as a trilogy.
Soooo...Season 2 started strong and just went off the rails. Didn't enjoy what they did with the Borg at all. I thought the big money shot stuff in the finale was rubbish and weak. But I really dug what they did with Q. I thought that was strong! But over all, yeah, another piece of Nu-Trek feeling poor over all.
Just waiting for Strange New Worlds to enter dock, and then we'll see how that is! I've heard good things of the pilot, so hopefully that'll be a nice palette cleanse after that finale.
Also, I think I'm in love with Gia Sandhu.
Spoiler
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So I enjoyed Strange New Worlds. Love that they're actually continuing on with the ramifications of what Pike had learned. I'm enjoying the new cast. It felt like Trek. I wasn't keen on
Spoiler
them being able to build a warp bomb out of just observing ships in a battle.
That seemed a little too silly to me, but I rode with it. Also don't think T'Pring jives too well with what we knew from Amok Time, but eh, I'll roll with it too. It's not like Trek doesn't change up the lore, and this isn't like the Klingons having cloaks before the Alliance, so I'm not too offended by that.
Yeah, it felt like Star Trek. So far so good.
So I'm a bit of a noob with Star Trek although I've seen various films and random episodes throughout the years. So to all the Trekkies would "Strange New Worlds" be an okay starting point?
Yes you be fine to start with Strange new worlds as its set before most of star trek apart from Enterprise
oh wait this isn't the orville thread
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I hope you all saw the latest episode of Strange New Worlds (S01E09), which was a horror-themed episode where the crew explore a crashed Federation ship (anothr Constitution-class) on an ice world. A TON of Alien series references. Kind of a loving homage. Maybe the closest we'll get to Aliens vs. Star Trek.
Perhaps Wesley back as well?
https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1550946433741750272
https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1551250867134689280
Okay, colour me curious about the SNW/Lower Decks episode. My 2 favourite shows of the current Trek!
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1553844651559456769
ohno RIP
Sadness. I'm sorry to hear that. :(
I loled. Because the episode that's from is brilliant self-aware mockery, and because of how much I dislike Picard.
Glad to see Lower Decks back though! Really enjoyed the first episode of Season 3.
Also, I'm going to see Wrath of Khan in the cinema this weekend! Had to cancel a booking to see TMP, but I couldn't miss Khan on the big screen! Don't think I've seen any of the TOS-era movies on the big screen, so I'm really excited.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 30, 2022, 07:34:52 AMI loled. Because the episode that's from is brilliant self-aware mockery, and because of how much I dislike Picard.
Glad to see Lower Decks back though! Really enjoyed the first episode of Season 3.
Also, I'm going to see Wrath of Khan in the cinema this weekend! Had to cancel a booking to see TMP, but I couldn't miss Khan on the big screen! Don't think I've seen any of the TOS-era movies on the big screen, so I'm really excited.
I am jealous. Be sure to (re)watch Space Speed before this.
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1567216077326942208
Just started watching Lower Decks season 3. Me likey.
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Not keen on the Titan-A's design. I'm sure it'll be poo like Season 1 and 2, but I'ma give it a go. Hopefully it'll surprise me.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 09, 2022, 08:12:25 AMI'm sure it'll be poo like Season 1 and 2, but I'ma give it a go.
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I don't get it
In case it's not.
But Alex Kurtzman ...
I love Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds so some modern Trek is resonating with me.
And that means Picard Season 3 will be good ?
He didn't say it will be good, he said it might be.
Yeaaahhhh. I never said it would be. I said I'd give it a go, it might surprise me. I like to actually watch/read/listen to things and make my mind up after the fact.
I would've understood your logic if this was Season 1. But it's Season 3. And you yourself said first two were poo. "Full me once" so to speak
It doesn't harm me giving it a shot. It's not like I'm paying anything extra for it.
Fair enough
Reminder that the first two seasons of TNG were terrible.
And generally all Trek. The only series that didn't apply to was TOS. And for me Discovery hasn't climbed out of that funk yet.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 09, 2022, 02:29:07 PMAnd for me Discovery hasn't climbed out of that funk yet.
Coincidentally also produced by Alex Kurtzman
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Just consume product! >:(
That's what Randly's been telling you ?
You leave Randy out of this! >:(
Shatner shares his Columbo memories (https://columbophile.com/2022/10/30/world-exclusive-william-shatner-shares-his-columbo-memories/?fbclid=IwAR19vu-xaSZjEXTnR89gHKjZ1BgDVM86PdNrM0PG8wVQO_moMjDcgul-g0M)
Nobody watches Columbo anymore.
Randy will never get his apology
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Completely off-topic, but my father LOVES that movie
The new episode of my show (Popcorn Digest) takes a look at the latest release of Star Trek The Motion Picture. I must warn you, there are discussions containing... surprising bodily ejections included.
https://twitter.com/PopcornDigest/status/1593418245171777537?s=20&t=fnIClrSKWXL5e3JnKUSEdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_93jM785k
"William Shatner: My Trip to Space Filled Me With 'Overwhelming Sadness'" (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/william-shatner-space-boldly-go-excerpt-1235395113/)
QuoteI continued my self-guided tour and turned my head to face the other direction, to stare into space. I love the mystery of the universe. I love all the questions that have come to us over thousands of years of exploration and hypotheses. Stars exploding years ago, their light traveling to us years later; black holes absorbing energy; satellites showing us entire galaxies in areas thought to be devoid of matter entirely... all of that has thrilled me for years... but when I looked in the opposite direction, into space, there was no mystery, no majestic awe to behold . . . all I saw was death.
...
It was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness. Every day, we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of Earth at our hands: the extinction of animal species, of flora and fauna . . . things that took five billion years to evolve, and suddenly we will never see them again because of the interference of mankind. It filled me with dread. My trip to space was supposed to be a celebration; instead, it felt like a funeral.
https://twitter.com/dawnofthediscs/status/1615793037375901707
Quote from: ace3g on Jan 18, 2023, 11:23:56 PMhttps://twitter.com/dawnofthediscs/status/1615793037375901707
Are they really worth getting though? Unless if you are a hardcore TNG fan, only First Contact is really worth watching, the rest of the TNG movies are...mediocre at best and downright awful if I am not being charitable.
The original 6 movie collection, staring the original crew, has better overall consistency in quality, even if you factor in the odd-even curse. TMP, while a slow borefest with its theatrical release, has been improved substantially with the director's edition in 4K. Even the Final Frontiers, the worst movie in first 6 movie collection, is...surprisingly watchable if you are in the mood (not saying its a good movie in the conventional sense, but you don't really hate it despite all its many flaws).
I love First Contact, even tho it is so dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBigb-kI-KQ
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Do you see this black void ? Mike Stoklasa's heart used to be there
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1631003762528772098
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 01, 2023, 07:17:25 PMhttps://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1631003762528772098
Put Pegg back on screenwriting duties and Lin in the director's chair.
Watched (again) the beautiful 4k Director's Edition of Star Trek The Motion Picture.
My fave Star Trek film has never looked or sounded better.
And the Enterprise refit is still my all time favourite starship.
Still need to watch that version; The Motion Picture is my favorite Trek film as well
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1631060517727944705
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 02, 2023, 12:43:28 PMStill need to watch that version; The Motion Picture is my favorite Trek film as well
If I could I'd like your post twice.
Watch it on a real good quality TV and Sound system if you can. The visual and audio details I've never seen or heard before are amazing.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2023, 04:12:32 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/status/1631060517727944705
Pine makes a valid point. Why are they always trying to make Trek blockbusters. Go for what the fanbase want - the film can be made on a smaller budget but focus on the serious, intelligent sci-fi that us Trekkies do love.
Yeah, I'd be all for a smaller, more introspective Star Trek on the big screen again. I think the 2009 film works for what it's going for - the cast is phenomenal and it's exciting, very much the blockbuster it set out to be - but if you look hard enough, you can really see the seams starting to show. Into Darkness is awful, probably my least favorite Trek film bar none. I do really love Beyond though, mostly because it feels like it could just be a big, extended episode of TOS in a lot of ways.
I would LOVE to see something more akin to The Motion Picture on the big screen again, though.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2023, 02:55:00 AMI would LOVE to see something more akin to The Motion Picture on the big screen again, though.
Funnily enough, one of my favourite Trek movies. I haven't even seen the director's cut, only the slower theatrical version. I really like glacial films, haha.
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 04, 2023, 08:44:07 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2023, 02:55:00 AMI would LOVE to see something more akin to The Motion Picture on the big screen again, though.
Funnily enough, one of my favourite Trek movies. I haven't even seen the director's cut, only the slower theatrical version. I really like glacial films, haha.
You need to watch the Director's Cut.
So great to see so much love for The Motion Picture on here.
Quote from: Prez on Mar 05, 2023, 11:35:22 AMQuote from: Valaquen on Mar 04, 2023, 08:44:07 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2023, 02:55:00 AMI would LOVE to see something more akin to The Motion Picture on the big screen again, though.
Funnily enough, one of my favourite Trek movies. I haven't even seen the director's cut, only the slower theatrical version. I really like glacial films, haha.
You need to watch the Director's Cut.
So great to see so much love for The Motion Picture on here.
I hear it just got a bluray release, so I'm looking to see it soon!
I will share the love for The Motion Picture, enjoyed the slowness.
Quote from: Prez on Mar 05, 2023, 11:35:22 AMSo great to see so much love for The Motion Picture on here.
I have a soft spot for it too. It's definitely not perfect, but it's in the pantheon of late-70s sci-fi renaissance classics for me. It also
feels more epic than any Star Trek movie that came afterward.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 06, 2023, 03:01:44 AMQuote from: Prez on Mar 05, 2023, 11:35:22 AMSo great to see so much love for The Motion Picture on here.
I have a soft spot for it too. It's definitely not perfect, but it's in the pantheon of late-70s sci-fi renaissance classics for me. It also feels more epic than any Star Trek movie that came afterward.
Absolutely nailed it!
How many Star Trek continuities / universe are there?
I mean...there is the original, the mirror universe (although that is like a pocket dimension of the original😅) the one by J.J Abrams...but any more?
Forgive my ignorance. It's just that I tend to be more Star Wars, and even there I don't know almost anything lol
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 07, 2023, 11:29:55 PMHow many Star Trek continuities / universe are there?
I mean...there is the original, the mirror universe (although that is like a pocket dimension of the original😅) the one by J.J Abrams...but any more?
Forgive my ignorance. It's just that I tend to be more Star Wars, and even there I don't know almost anything lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drrmj_8V1s4
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 07, 2023, 11:29:55 PMHow many Star Trek continuities / universe are there?
I mean...there is the original, the mirror universe (although that is like a pocket dimension of the original😅) the one by J.J Abrams...but any more?
Forgive my ignorance. It's just that I tend to be more Star Wars, and even there I don't know almost anything lol
Too many!!
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 07, 2023, 11:29:55 PMHow many Star Trek continuities / universe are there?
With the exception of the Abrams movies, all of the TV series and movies ostensibly take place in the same continuity.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 11, 2023, 04:25:59 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 07, 2023, 11:29:55 PMHow many Star Trek continuities / universe are there?
With the exception of the Abrams movies, all of the TV series and movies ostensibly take place in the same continuity.
Clear as a crystal skull ;D
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The Star Trek film and television media I would recommend:
Number 1: Star Trek The Original Series, (Completely optional Animated Series if you loved that and just want more) then Star Trek the original films.
Number 2: TNG, First Contact, DS9.
(Voyager, I do not like it but some do, Enterprise you might as well at that point, if you have got this far)
Number 3: Star Trek 09, Into Darkness, Beyond.
Current stuff: Strange New Worlds, Picard Season 3, avoid 2 and 1, hopefully both shows fulfill their potential.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 11, 2023, 09:36:09 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 11, 2023, 04:25:59 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 07, 2023, 11:29:55 PMHow many Star Trek continuities / universe are there?
With the exception of the Abrams movies, all of the TV series and movies ostensibly take place in the same continuity.
Clear as a crystal skull ;D
https://s10.gifyu.com/images/75e49c39-2840-4275-8348-ebcceb17654c.gif
Stop harassing the elderly >:(
Spoiler
That Mike Stoklasa's job ;)
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 11, 2023, 09:48:26 AMThe Star Trek film and television media I would recommend:
Number 1: Star Trek The Original Series, (Completely optional Animated Series if you loved that and just want more) then Star Trek the original films.
Number 2: TNG, First Contact, DS9.
(Voyager, I do not like it but some do, Enterprise you might as well at that point, if you have got this far)
Number 3: Star Trek 09, Into Darkness, Beyond.
Current stuff: Strange New Worlds, Picard Season 3, avoid 2 and 1, hopefully both shows fulfill their potential.
Oh actually I'm already watching, and enjoying,
Picard season 3. Thanks for the recommendation, and I've seen a bit of everything. I've been looking forward to watch
Strange New Worlds recently though.
😅
👉👈
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 11, 2023, 10:32:25 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 11, 2023, 09:36:09 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 11, 2023, 04:25:59 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 07, 2023, 11:29:55 PMHow many Star Trek continuities / universe are there?
With the exception of the Abrams movies, all of the TV series and movies ostensibly take place in the same continuity.
Clear as a crystal skull ;D
https://s10.gifyu.com/images/75e49c39-2840-4275-8348-ebcceb17654c.gif
Stop harassing the elderly >:(
Spoiler
That Mike Stoklasa's job ;)
Force me!
>:(
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So Picard followed Trek tradition and got good in the third season?
I quit in the middle of the first season, is it worth coming back?
Season 3 is managing to be pretty entertaining so far. I've not rolled my eyes at any plot decisions as yet. Only thing I've not liked in Season 3 has been the
Spoiler
Changeling effect changes. Not a fan of the new version of them in their liquid state.
Season 1 and 2 weren't good though. Season 2 started well and quickly went off the rails.
The most surprising thing to me is hearing RLM guys talk genuinely positively about Star Trek produced by Alex Kurtzman
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2023, 10:21:54 AMSeason 3 is managing to be pretty entertaining so far. I've not rolled my eyes at any plot decisions as yet. Only thing I've not liked in Season 3 has been the
Spoiler
Changeling effect changes. Not a fan of the new version of them in their liquid state.
Season 1 and 2 weren't good though. Season 2 started well and quickly went off the rails.
Pretty much agree with all of that.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2023, 10:21:54 AMSeason 3 is managing to be pretty entertaining so far. I've not rolled my eyes at any plot decisions as yet. Only thing I've not liked in Season 3 has been the
Spoiler
Changeling effect changes. Not a fan of the new version of them in their liquid state.
It is reminding me a lot of a certain scene in Fight Club.
I would watch a show starring Captain Shaw. He's a riot.
I do quite like Shaw. Why he doesn't like Jean Luc was a little uninspired, though. We've been there before...
Good video
@Local Trouble ... not sure I agree with everything he states but some nice little tidbits on there. I think I need to rewatch it yet again now ;D
https://twitter.com/StarTrek/status/1641485559850999809
Sounds like another streaming garbage fire. I can't wait.
It's taken them long enough to finally get that off the ground. They've flirted with something set during someone's Academy Years for long enough. I'm not going to write it off straight away. SNW, Lower Decks and Picard Season 3 (so far) have been really solid IMHO so I'm willing to see how this one ends up.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1648342369530413056
Huh. I wonder how accessible this will be for some (*cough* me) that hasn't seen any of the current Trek TV shows (and only sporadic episodes of TOS/TNG) but has seen all of the prior Trek films...
Also, as far as the current stuff goes, I'm pretty curious to check out Strange New Worlds based on what I've heard about that one.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 18, 2023, 06:43:07 PMHuh. I wonder how accessible this will be for some (*cough* me) that hasn't seen any of the current Trek TV shows (and only sporadic episodes of TOS/TNG) but has seen all of the prior Trek films...
Also, as far as the current stuff goes, I'm pretty curious to check out Strange New Worlds based on what I've heard about that one.
Apparently it's related to her character in
Discovery. I didn't read the full article that talked about it because I haven't watched the series yet and didn't want it spoiled.
Yer I'm not so keen on a Section 31 movie to be honest. Maybe I am a bit old on this but I prefer my Trek to Boldly Go and be hopeful. Gritty and edgy doesn't seem Trek to me. That said Yeoh was one of the few bright spots for me on Discovery.
Quote from: Prez on Apr 20, 2023, 11:58:51 AMI prefer my Trek to Boldly Go and be hopeful. Gritty and edgy doesn't seem Trek to me.
This is exactly why I found
Beyond to be such a breath of fresh air after the absolutely dire
Into Darkness.
I really need to just kick myself into geat and start watching some Star Trek TV proper. I've seen a bunch of TOS episodes, always at random on TV, and a small handful of season one TNG episodes, but that's it for Trek TV for me. I've seen every movie across all three cinematic iterations just cause a movie is a lot easier to commit to than the plethora of Star Trek TV out there, and as a concept I really love what Trek is all about, but I really need to change those viewing habits and get to actually watching some of the best of what the shows have to offer soon...
Season 3 of Picard was certainly a nostalgia bukkake of epic proportions, but I can't say it didn't work for me. My face looks like a glazed donut.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 20, 2023, 10:17:04 PMSeason 3 of Picard was certainly a nostalgia bukkake of epic proportions, but I can't say it didn't work for me. My face looks like a glazed donut.
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Got to make it through today without seeing any spoilers for the Picard finale.
Loving the looks of SNW Season 2 too. Looks like the Gorn are back. I like they're keeping that running.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2023, 09:32:58 AMGot to make it through today without seeing any spoilers for the Picard finale.
Loving the looks of SNW Season 2 too. Looks like the Gorn are back. I like they're keeping that running.
That finale. You will love it. It was beautiful.
Quote from: Prez on Apr 20, 2023, 11:58:51 AMMaybe I am a bit old on this but I prefer my Trek to Boldly Go and be hopeful. Gritty and edgy doesn't seem Trek to me.
I'm not sure what our age gap is (and I imagine you wouldn't want to think about it?) but I agree. Some of the OG Trek had heavy ideas -- but it wasn't "f**k you" gritty and edgy, it was "hey wouldn't it suck if you had to let someone get run over or else really screw with reality?"
Quote from: Prez on Apr 22, 2023, 06:59:03 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2023, 09:32:58 AMGot to make it through today without seeing any spoilers for the Picard finale.
Loving the looks of SNW Season 2 too. Looks like the Gorn are back. I like they're keeping that running.
That finale. You will love it. It was beautiful.
They made effective use of the old themes.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 18, 2023, 05:32:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/status/1648342369530413056
Her Oscar win has nothing to do with the decision to turn it into a movie...of course. 8)
Quote from: Prez on Mar 02, 2023, 12:09:48 PMWatched (again) the beautiful 4k Director's Edition of Star Trek The Motion Picture.
My fave Star Trek film has never looked or sounded better.
And the Enterprise refit is still my all time favourite starship.
Amen to that. The refit Enterprise still looks great to this day.
I remember falling asleep when I first watched the original theatrical cut of the Motion Picture. I saw there was a good movie somewhere in there, I saw they were trying to say something meaningful and interesting beyond the simple "Buck Rogers" style of sci-fi prevalent then. But it was all kinda hidden and jumbled by everything else. The languid pace in the middle section of the film was especially hard for me to get through. But the ending I always found was good.
Now realizing what a mess the production of the movie was, I guess you could say it could have been worse given the issues with making the movie. How the TMP was supposed to be Star Trek Phase II TV series, then switched to becoming a movie, then switched back again to a TV series before finally the executives decided on turning it into a movie given the success of Star Wars. How it didn't have a finished script when the shooting started. How the special effects were delayed and went
way over-budget. How Roddenberry (repeatedly) seem to want to sabotage the movie with his ill-conceived ideas (I don't know what happened to Roddenberry in the decade between the end of the TOS and TMP, but he developed some pretty wacky ideas...maybe he listened to too many fan worship during his convention attendances). Given all those problems behind-the-scenes, its a credit to Wise that he even managed to assembled a somewhat coherent movie at all.
And then watching the Director's Edition many years later, I can say...there was no argument that edition of the movie was a substantial improvement. The pacing was better, the little character moments that Wise put in helped to make them standout a little more than the mere passive background observers they were in the original cut. And of course the effects, sound and overall presentation were much improved (although to the credit of the TMP theatrical cut, some of the original 1979 effects looks good even to this day).
The Director Edition wasn't perfect though, parts of it still felt a little slow. And there was only so much Wise and his crew could do to paper over some of the inherent weaker moments of the film. Nevertheless, I will say in conclusion the Director's Edition help rescued the TMP from a badly flawed movie to become a flawed gem. Not perfect. Certainly not Wise's best film, but it is much more watchable and enjoyable than the theatrical version.
The latest episode is up and takes a look at Star Trek V - So Very Tired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iVtCJnGz6Y
Quote from: SiL on Apr 22, 2023, 07:06:53 AMQuote from: Prez on Apr 20, 2023, 11:58:51 AMMaybe I am a bit old on this but I prefer my Trek to Boldly Go and be hopeful. Gritty and edgy doesn't seem Trek to me.
I'm not sure what our age gap is (and I imagine you wouldn't want to think about it?) but I agree. Some of the OG Trek had heavy ideas -- but it wasn't "f**k you" gritty and edgy, it was "hey wouldn't it suck if you had to let someone get run over or else really screw with reality?"
I hit the half century last year (though that feels weird even saying that).
And still I find it out of place to hear my favourite Trek cast drop the F bomb.
Quote from: Prez on Apr 24, 2023, 04:45:27 AMQuote from: SiL on Apr 22, 2023, 07:06:53 AMQuote from: Prez on Apr 20, 2023, 11:58:51 AMMaybe I am a bit old on this but I prefer my Trek to Boldly Go and be hopeful. Gritty and edgy doesn't seem Trek to me.
I'm not sure what our age gap is (and I imagine you wouldn't want to think about it?) but I agree. Some of the OG Trek had heavy ideas -- but it wasn't "f**k you" gritty and edgy, it was "hey wouldn't it suck if you had to let someone get run over or else really screw with reality?"
I hit the half century last year (though that feels weird even saying that).
And still I find it out of place to hear my favourite Trek cast drop the F bomb.
Just imagine if the Tarantino movie happened. "You green blooded f**king f**k!" - Bones
Quote from: Gazz on Apr 23, 2023, 10:01:05 PMThe latest episode is up and takes a look at Star Trek V - So Very Tired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iVtCJnGz6Y
Ridiculing "The Final Frontiers" has become a pastime among Trekkies. And they are not wrong, it is the weakest entry in the original six movies. The nightmare that was the production of the Final Frontiers is now well-known to Trekkies. Shatner's over-inflated ego, his inexperience directing a major Hollywood production, the crew striking combined with budget cuts mandated by the studio all made the end product a bad joke.
Of course, the whole idea of "finding God" was strange for a plot to begin with. And the special effects, without ILM, just looked horrid even for 1989. Heck, even a TNG TV episode airing in the same period had better effects for a fraction of the movie budget.
But with all that said, mocking the Final Frontiers is a low-hanging fruit for me. More interesting is that despite all those flaws...I don't hate the movie. If I am in the right mood, I would even find it enjoyable to watch. I mean the movie moves at a good pace, the chemistry between Kirk, Spock and McCoy had never been better, exemplified by the campfire scenes, which I actually liked. Laurence Luckinbill also did a good job with what he was given playing Sybok.
Am I saying the Final Frontiers is actually a good movie, a masterpiece even, that has been undeservedly criticized by generations of fans? No. It is undeniably a bad movie in the conventional sense. The scorn heaped onto the film aren't misplaced. Its just that...despite all those issues, the movie is still better than the absolute nadir in the Trek film series, Nemesis. That was simply turd-quality, even Final Frontiers was better. My thoughts on Shatner's (in)famous directing job is actually closer to this fellow, who gives a nuanced take on the Final Frontiers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ogp_8Shmg0
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 24, 2023, 05:22:55 AMQuote from: Prez on Apr 24, 2023, 04:45:27 AMQuote from: SiL on Apr 22, 2023, 07:06:53 AMQuote from: Prez on Apr 20, 2023, 11:58:51 AMMaybe I am a bit old on this but I prefer my Trek to Boldly Go and be hopeful. Gritty and edgy doesn't seem Trek to me.
I'm not sure what our age gap is (and I imagine you wouldn't want to think about it?) but I agree. Some of the OG Trek had heavy ideas -- but it wasn't "f**k you" gritty and edgy, it was "hey wouldn't it suck if you had to let someone get run over or else really screw with reality?"
I hit the half century last year (though that feels weird even saying that).
And still I find it out of place to hear my favourite Trek cast drop the F bomb.
Just imagine if the Tarantino movie happened. "You green blooded f**king f**k!" - Bones
Hahaha. Thing is though Tarantino is great at exposition and character development. I think that combo (whilst so intrinsically poles apart) would actually be very interesting and work.
Quote from: Gazz on Apr 23, 2023, 10:01:05 PMThe latest episode is up and takes a look at Star Trek V - So Very Tired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iVtCJnGz6Y
I thought you did one on Final Frontier ? Not that I'm complaining, of course, always a pleasure to hear a new episode
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 24, 2023, 12:24:03 PMQuote from: Gazz on Apr 23, 2023, 10:01:05 PMThe latest episode is up and takes a look at Star Trek V - So Very Tired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iVtCJnGz6Y
I thought you did one on Final Frontier ? Not that I'm complaining, of course, always a pleasure to hear a new episode
Oh we did. This is a highlight reel of a few talking points, something we're making for youtube to drive traffic to the podcast (and it has worked quite amazingly). So in the off weeks when we don't publish a new episode, we'll put out one of these highlight reels from a previous one.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Apr 24, 2023, 11:22:34 AMQuote from: Gazz on Apr 23, 2023, 10:01:05 PMThe latest episode is up and takes a look at Star Trek V - So Very Tired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iVtCJnGz6Y
Ridiculing "The Final Frontiers" has become a pastime among Trekkies. And they are not wrong, it is the weakest entry in the original six movies. The nightmare that was the production of the Final Frontiers is now well-known to Trekkies. Shatner's over-inflated ego, his inexperience directing a major Hollywood production, the crew striking combined with budget cuts mandated by the studio all made the end product a bad joke.
Of course, the whole idea of "finding God" was strange for a plot to begin with. And the special effects, without ILM, just looked horrid even for 1989. Heck, even a TNG TV episode airing in the same period had better effects for a fraction of the movie budget.
But with all that said, mocking the Final Frontiers is a low-hanging fruit for me. More interesting is that despite all those flaws...I don't hate the movie. If I am in the right mood, I would even find it enjoyable to watch. I mean the movie moves at a good pace, the chemistry between Kirk, Spock and McCoy had never been better, exemplified by the campfire scenes, which I actually liked. Laurence Luckinbill also did a good job with what he was given playing Sybok.
Am I saying the Final Frontiers is actually a good movie, a masterpiece even, that has been undeservedly criticized by generations of fans? No. It is undeniably a bad movie in the conventional sense. The scorn heaped onto the film aren't misplaced. Its just that...despite all those issues, the movie is still better than the absolute nadir in the Trek film series, Nemesis. That was simply turd-quality, even Final Frontiers was better. My thoughts on Shatner's (in)famous directing job is actually closer to this fellow, who gives a nuanced take on the Final Frontiers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ogp_8Shmg0
I like things in Final Frontier. The trio hanging out at the beginning is mana for Kirk-Spock-Bones fans. Well, my wife loved it anyway. She'd watch those three camp and fish all day. The scenes at the end are really effective, the ones where the guys are being challenged - Bones has to face up to euthanizing his father, Kirk's "I need my pain!"
Definitely the weakest entry of course. I barely remember the plot. Just moments. This film is awkwardly sandwiched between two great Trek movies.
Those are exactly my favourite parts of the film too, and scenes we take a look at in the video. I also don't blame Shatner entirely for the outcome of the final film. The concept is ambitious and comes from an interesting place (inspired by Shatner's opinion of televangelists), but has been neutered by committee and executed by a director who really needed to know more about the technical demands of filmmaking.
I know I'm repeating myself from the video, but under the circumstances it needed a director like James Cameron; one who knows the technical details inside and out. The effects studios promised Shatner the world and he expected it to pay off. When the effects started coming in looking as they did, it was already too late. I guess Shatner's naivety is what killed the film ultimately, but I still admire his ambition (ego that he is!).
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1653449276427468803
That is wonderful and very emotional. Generations remains probably the biggest missed opportunity of the entire franchise for me.
I do think Generations is underappreciated. It's got such strong character throughout.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Apr 24, 2023, 11:22:34 AMQuote from: Gazz on Apr 23, 2023, 10:01:05 PMThe latest episode is up and takes a look at Star Trek V - So Very Tired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iVtCJnGz6Y
Ridiculing "The Final Frontiers" has become a pastime among Trekkies. And they are not wrong, it is the weakest entry in the original six movies. The nightmare that was the production of the Final Frontiers is now well-known to Trekkies. Shatner's over-inflated ego, his inexperience directing a major Hollywood production, the crew striking combined with budget cuts mandated by the studio all made the end product a bad joke.
Of course, the whole idea of "finding God" was strange for a plot to begin with. And the special effects, without ILM, just looked horrid even for 1989. Heck, even a TNG TV episode airing in the same period had better effects for a fraction of the movie budget.
But with all that said, mocking the Final Frontiers is a low-hanging fruit for me. More interesting is that despite all those flaws...I don't hate the movie. If I am in the right mood, I would even find it enjoyable to watch. I mean the movie moves at a good pace, the chemistry between Kirk, Spock and McCoy had never been better, exemplified by the campfire scenes, which I actually liked. Laurence Luckinbill also did a good job with what he was given playing Sybok.
Am I saying the Final Frontiers is actually a good movie, a masterpiece even, that has been undeservedly criticized by generations of fans? No. It is undeniably a bad movie in the conventional sense. The scorn heaped onto the film aren't misplaced. Its just that...despite all those issues, the movie is still better than the absolute nadir in the Trek film series, Nemesis. That was simply turd-quality, even Final Frontiers was better. My thoughts on Shatner's (in)famous directing job is actually closer to this fellow, who gives a nuanced take on the Final Frontiers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ogp_8Shmg0
I love the Campfire scene too. I also like how they question the false god, "don't you know my name? Arn't you god?" and "what does god need with a starship?"
There's definitely some good ideas in Final Frontier, they're mainly just weak in the execution.
I'd sooner revisit The Final Frontier than I would Into Darkness.
Into Darkness I really enjoy up until the last fifteen minutes.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 28, 2023, 11:44:26 AMI'd sooner revisit The Final Frontier than I would Into Darkness.
Amen. Into Darkness is just a travesty IMHO.
J.J. Abrams is a travesty of a filmmaker. Has he ever made anything original?
Originality is meaningless if it isn't also good.
Well, it's both. Copycat and mediocre at best.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 28, 2023, 03:20:15 AMThere's definitely some good ideas in Final Frontier, they're mainly just weak in the execution.
True, I suppose if it was done with a more competent director and a better script, things could have worked out. Rumors kept swirling around certain corners of the Trekkie universe that the original script for the Final Froniters was actually pretty good, but the studio could not tolerate the budget that went with it.
Even so, maybe it was never realistic for Paramount to accept that original script given the very high budget demanded, and maybe Shatner was too full of himself to see the issue.
I've got the second draft of Final Frontier, but I've never actually sat down and read it to see what the differences are.
https://twitter.com/TrekNewsNet/status/1648353945230749697
Been watching Brave New Worlds and enjoying it.. *ducks in case of phasers*
And welcome back
Strange New Worlds.
Spoiler
Interesting season opener considering Pike was barely in it.
Quote from: Prez on Jun 19, 2023, 11:21:17 PMAnd welcome back Strange New Worlds.
Spoiler
Interesting season opener considering Pike was barely in it.
I'm on Season One. Would you say the new opener is good?
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jun 19, 2023, 11:27:01 PMQuote from: Prez on Jun 19, 2023, 11:21:17 PMAnd welcome back Strange New Worlds.
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Interesting season opener considering Pike was barely in it.
I'm on Season One. Would you say the new opener is good?
It was good but perhaps not the opening I expected.
Spoiler
And just read that Anson Mount had a newborn so that explains his absence.
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1682858991196721152
I enjoyed it. Was really charming.
Whilst I'm enjoying SNW I must admit the episodes feel rather `filler' at times this season so far.
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Spock as a whiny human with almost teenager like moods was rather funny though
.
Also the choice of actor to play James T Kirk has actually grown on me now.
I never thought I will see the day when the Klingons will break out with a K-pop boy band song, but here they are doing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arQcprQvHOoI love this. The writers said they will be pushing new ideas and boundaries in season 2. They sure are.
I fully expect Hawley's Alien show to have a similar episode at some point. That's what modern audiences want, apparently.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 06, 2023, 02:01:38 AMI fully expect Hawley's Alien show to have a similar episode at some point. That's what modern audiences want, apparently.
Hahaha, nah, if I ever seen Aliens doing a dance move or the Predator singing opera on screen, that would be the end of both franchises. ;D
Quote from: Cougerboy on Aug 06, 2023, 01:56:29 AMI never thought I will see the day when the Klingons will break out with a K-pop boy band song, but here they are doing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arQcprQvHOo
I love this. The writers said they will be pushing new ideas and boundaries in season 2. They sure are.
To be fair...that episode was really good! I wasn't too keen on the grand finale song, but the opening song and Chapels' were really really catchy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHTjE95EJEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBDVKilCGAQ
I've avoided this episode as I'm not to keen on it but I guess I have to boldly go eventually.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 07, 2023, 08:39:16 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Aug 06, 2023, 01:56:29 AMI never thought I will see the day when the Klingons will break out with a K-pop boy band song, but here they are doing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arQcprQvHOo
I love this. The writers said they will be pushing new ideas and boundaries in season 2. They sure are.
To be fair...that episode was really good! I wasn't too keen on the grand finale song, but the opening song and Chapels' were really really catchy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHTjE95EJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBDVKilCGAQ
I found the episode enjoyable as well. A musical isn't easy to do. You have to have the right composers coming up with the right songs, and a proper choreographer to do the dance moves and both have to move the story along. And the actors of course has to sing...without going out of tune, auto-tune don't suffice, as that is easy to detect nowadays and would be seen as "cheating". I read it took a long time for the producers, screenwriters and director to prepare this episode.
Reminds me of the Buffy episode where everyone broke into song (and there was an in-universe explanation!)
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1689794910298542080
Quote from: Prez on Aug 08, 2023, 12:19:56 AMI've avoided this episode as I'm not to keen on it but I guess I have to boldly go eventually.
Ok took the plunge last night. Expected absolute cringe however found it surprisingly good and I liked how they tied it all in. Very clever.
Watching DS9 for the first time, watched TNG years ago, Garak might be my favourite character in all of Star Trek honestly.
Like... what a performance.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 21, 2023, 07:22:59 PMWatching DS9 for the first time, watched TNG years ago, Garak might be my favourite character in all of Star Trek honestly.
Like... what a performance.
Pound for pound, DS9 is probably the best Trek we've ever had.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 21, 2023, 07:22:59 PMWatching DS9 for the first time, watched TNG years ago, Garak might be my favourite character in all of Star Trek honestly.
Like... what a performance.
Garek is
so fun. I just brought the audio novel of the book the actor wrote and am looking forward to digging into that. DS9 is just another great series, especially after they introduce the Dominion.
They really need to remaster DS9. Babylon 5 is already doing it, but Im not sure about the extent of that remastering.
Omg "The Visitor."
https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1704179379297722587
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 19, 2023, 06:56:02 PMhttps://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1704179379297722587
WOW. Amazing.
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1712156134751293650
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Oct 23, 2023, 04:50:22 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFLYF83QnE8
No mention of "Conspiracy" from season 1? That was the unusually dark and horrific episode I remember from TNG. That episode was actually a culmination of a loose plot threaded through the first season. Something sinister was trying to take over the Federation. Turns out it was a group of parastic aliens on the verge of taking over the Federation. The ending implied that the Federation will be facing future threats from that alien species, but TNG never followed up on that.
Although if I am not mistaken there was a DS9 novel where those evil parastic aliens turned out to be enemies of the Trills, symbiotic species that bond with a host, like Jadzia Dax.
https://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1740428681024053458
Excellent! Very much looking forward to its return!
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 29, 2023, 04:16:11 PMhttps://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1740428681024053458
When is season 3 coming out?
Quote from: Cougerboy on Jan 04, 2024, 01:41:19 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 29, 2023, 04:16:11 PMhttps://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1740428681024053458
When is season 3 coming out?
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https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1743359933456712004
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 05, 2024, 10:45:04 PMhttps://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1743359933456712004
Hmmm...I don't know. If you look at Picard the TV series, it was rather uneven in quality, season 1 was...ok, not the absolute best but still watchable. Season 2 was when the series kinda faltered and underwhelmed audience. It was only in season 3 when things picked back up and had a satisfactory conclusion.
So I don't know if the movie will also be uneven.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Jan 06, 2024, 11:15:40 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 05, 2024, 10:45:04 PMhttps://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1743359933456712004
Hmmm...I don't know. If you look at Picard the TV series, it was rather uneven in quality, season 1 was...ok, not the absolute best but still watchable. Season 2 was when the series kinda faltered and underwhelmed audience. It was only in season 3 when things picked back up and had a satisfactory conclusion.
So I don't know if the movie will also be uneven.
Yeah third season was the best part of the show.
The third was the only actual good season of Picard and it was a very satisfying conclusion. Leave the TNG cast alone now.
https://twitter.com/trekonlinegame/status/1744735869284806799
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1745232301418561706
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 10, 2024, 11:54:25 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/status/1745232301418561706
Hmmm. Positive about the directorial choice but uncertain I want a `new origins' story. Whilst not perfect I think I'd like some closure on the Kelvin Timeline. `Beyond' has grown on me and I'd like to see that cast given one final showing on the big screen.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1752378464794185817
I'll watch it, but I'm just not particularly excited for this one.
🙏8) warning! hard scifi stuff 😅👀👉👈
https://twitter.com/SPACEdotcom/status/1753433896820085160
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1753418016468189581
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 05, 2024, 04:51:09 PMhttps://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1753418016468189581
Hmmm...interesting. Not sure if it will tempt any trekkies except the most hardcore ones to buy the pro though. At US$3500, it is pretty darn pricey after-all.
Come to think, who are the buyers for the vision pro? Most think its
way too expensive for the average Apple consumer. So apart from tech and VR geeks, who would buy the pro at this moment?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 10, 2024, 11:54:25 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/status/1745232301418561706
Another origin story?
Quote from: SM on Feb 07, 2024, 03:11:24 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 10, 2024, 11:54:25 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/status/1745232301418561706
Another origin story?
The article just says set decades before the original. Don't give me Pike or April, I'm getting that from SNW. Now...give me the Romulan-Earth War and I'm all aboard. That said, that old script for a film set in that period wasn't great though.
Just do more with Pine and co. That cast had a good dynamic.
I don't disagree there. I do genuinely think they did a fantastic job with casting and Beyond was legitimately good.
https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1757257485784617251
Look! EMPEROR PALPATINE in the original tv show🙊🙈😅
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArtUzO35XVU...also I also started watching
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine since it is described as creme de la creme by some creature on the internet...possibly a sapien primate like me...but who kwnos in these days....
~ 👀👉👈🤖😅
https://twitter.com/EW/status/1771244487605424289
Should be more angry. "That's it? A bridge falls on me?"
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 24, 2024, 05:36:47 AMShould be more angry. "That's it? A bridge falls on me?"
I wasn't necessarily against Kirk being killed off, unlike some nutty trekkies, but I did have an issue with the way they killed off Kirk. So underwhelming. And maybe downright disrespectful to the character even. That is why "Generations" is always subpar in my view.
Of all the myriad ways he nearly died in TOS and the movies, the way he actually did die was insultingly mundane.
His death should have been more like George Kirk's in the first Abrams flick, but on the bridge of the Enterprise-A.
Kirk had that cool speech about making a difference, but the stakes weren't big enough in Generations. Some nothing planet whose inhabitants we never see.
The Shats follow up novels where he gets resurrected by the Romulans and Borg were kinda fun.
Shatner looks like 63.
And weren't the inhabitants basically cavemen?
Something like that. There is a kind of nobility in sacrifice to save people who'll never know about it. But this wasn't the best time for that kind of sacrifice.
According to the wiki:
QuoteIn Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, it was stated that if the code "0-0-0-Destruct-1" was given, it would result in an overload of the warp core (most likely an intentional warp core breach, although that term was not used until Star Trek: The Next Generation). This version of the auto-destruct was meant for use in deep space, nowhere near a planetary environment. Using the code "0-0-0-Destruct-0" (as it was in TOS and Star Trek III), would render the ship as a useless hulk to all hostile forces.
"0-0-0-Destruct-1" is presumably the method that they were planning to use in TMP, which Scotty said would take V'ger with them. That would have been a good way for Kirk to go out, flying the Enterprise-A into some galactic-level threat and detonating the ship's antimatter.
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1773017135901548782
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1773014616815325622
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 25, 2024, 01:58:51 AMAccording to the wiki:
QuoteIn Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, it was stated that if the code "0-0-0-Destruct-1" was given, it would result in an overload of the warp core (most likely an intentional warp core breach, although that term was not used until Star Trek: The Next Generation). This version of the auto-destruct was meant for use in deep space, nowhere near a planetary environment. Using the code "0-0-0-Destruct-0" (as it was in TOS and Star Trek III), would render the ship as a useless hulk to all hostile forces.
"0-0-0-Destruct-1" is presumably the method that they were planning to use in TMP, which Scotty said would take V'ger with them. That would have been a good way for Kirk to go out, flying the Enterprise-A into some galactic-level threat and detonating the ship's antimatter.
Kirk Unit.
The information will not be disclosed! >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 31, 2024, 11:37:42 PMThe information will not be disclosed! >:(
Your name will be disclosed, I don't know I thought of a good insult, but I don't think this is going over well.
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 31, 2024, 11:37:42 PMThe information will not be disclosed! >:(
"... as much as you wanted the Enterprise, I want this!"
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 01, 2024, 09:00:13 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3UECPY6Y-Y
All the Alec Peters drama aside, the content they've put out has actually been well produced and entertaining.
Can't believe Discovery is about to have its last season. I have a lot to catch up on.
Anyone play the Voyager: Elite Force games? I have been itching for them for more than 20 years.
I had so much fun with the Elite Force games back in the day. I replayed the first a couple years back since it was available as vaporware for ages. It's now on GoG though, I think.
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 07, 2024, 01:51:15 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0HZPg-3rQ
Okay, so I'm not a huge fan of Discovery or the first two seasons of Picard, but 4 minutes in and "it takes a brave crew of adventurers and turns them into a crew of millennials who instead of facing the fear of the unknown are continually turning to each other in the face of the ultimate fears."
If that's your takeaway and complaint of nu-Trek...I just...wow. Of the things I dislike about the newer Star Trek, that is certainly not one of them and not something to critize at all in my opinion. That's just healthy.
I just like this channel and agree (not always) with him a lot what he says. He's got huge knowledge about sci-fi and great content about Asimov, Herbert, Dick (including Blade Runner), Lem, Ursula Le Guin, Gibson and so on. Do I always agree with him? Of course not but his channel is worth giving a go.
TIL this was Tim Russ (aka Tuvok).
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I love how Dark Helmet uses the megaphone right in Sandurz ear but just yells to those guys.
Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 08, 2024, 06:46:27 AMAnyone play the Voyager: Elite Force games? I have been itching for them for more than 20 years.
I want to play that game too, since supposedly its the only game worth playing based on the Voyager series.
https://twitter.com/TheInSneider/status/1778475360847606256
Romulan War or nothing please.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Apr 09, 2024, 08:23:32 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Apr 08, 2024, 06:46:27 AMAnyone play the Voyager: Elite Force games? I have been itching for them for more than 20 years.
I want to play that game too, since supposedly its the only game worth playing based on the Voyager series.
Perhaps only games worth playing in the Star Trek series?
Strong disagree there. Bridge Commander was hella fun, as were the Armada games. So was Borg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBYkjBF8Zw
Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 12, 2024, 10:11:57 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Apr 09, 2024, 08:23:32 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Apr 08, 2024, 06:46:27 AMAnyone play the Voyager: Elite Force games? I have been itching for them for more than 20 years.
I want to play that game too, since supposedly its the only game worth playing based on the Voyager series.
Perhaps only games worth playing in the Star Trek series?
Star Trek games have a mixed reputation, some are good, others not so good, and quite a lot are just plain terrible.
The good ones, ah the classic games from Interplay like Star Trek 25th anniversary and Starfleet Command (starship strategy and combat) were great fun. The graphics are pretty dated of course now, but there is still value to playing it for the sheer fun of it. (Sadly I don't think they have published any notable games in recent years, although technically the company isn't bankrupt and has not shuttered its doors, its more a shell company now I guess),
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 12, 2024, 10:48:05 AMStrong disagree there. Bridge Commander was hella fun, as were the Armada games. So was Borg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBYkjBF8Zw
I like Bridge Commander, reminded me of an earlier starship simulator game, Starfleet Academy, that was less well received, with a somewhat clunky plot about a conspiracy within the federation itself, although I did enjoy the fact it was set in the original series movie era when you get to play the Enterprise A and interact with Kirk himself.
As for Borg, wow, that was the pre-First Contact era, when the Borg had the original Next Generation TV budget look. But otherwise, yeah, it was a fun game.
He's 93 and this is from earlier today. Look at him go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQFh9UaUdwo
93?! :o
He looks like he could have another go on the bridge of a starship right now. He might not be running around and getting into fistfights with Klingons, but he could definitely sit in that chair and give orders to the crew.
I would love to see that. Him and Scott (age 86) must be some Nexus model. It's ridiculous. I'm 52 years younger than Shatner and he still looks sharp as f**k.