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Well, this was the news we were all expecting the last few months. According to Dark Horizons, Alien vs Predator has officially gained a PG13 rating:

“An interesting set report from the team-up is at VisiMag. The film has officially garnered a PG-13 rating.”

If you also read the original article on VisiMag, it gives no indication to the rating but the complete article in the magazine apparently features this news. The set report can be found in Issue 114 of ‘Shivers’ and the magazine’s cover is on the next page if you want to buy it.

Thanks to Agent Glenn, Oh and Dark Horizons for the news.

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http://www.avp-movie.com/images/legal.jpg  "THIS FILM IS NOT YET RATED"    8)  

i also love how the page stating its pg-13 has already been taken off the dark horizons website and that the shivers magazine starts with the sentence!  We report from the Prague set of the highly-anticipated monster team-up, starring Lance Henriksen and Sanaa Lathan   reporting from prague all those months ago huh? oh well! im just waiting for mpaa rating! thats the only official source!

Well, the if you go to www.mpaa.org and search the database for Alien vs. Predator it doesn't appear yet, and since it's the official organization that rates movies in the US everything else is still rumors....  Saludos

I double checked Pvt Hudson and the page on Dark Horizons that states its a PG 13 is still there, in the news bites section

You know, I'm really starting to think this is funny. All these sites are in conflict, saying it's either PG-13 or R rated, but in reality all they're doing is GUESSING! Hahahaha!  Seriously, I'm starting to laugh at all this. At first I was afraid the movie wasn't going to be any good, but then I realized- this is STUPID! Hahaha. From now on I'm just going to laugh at these "rating" things all these websites are saying. I won't trust any until I see the rating posted on the AVP website.  I'm confident this movie will be great. I don't really care much for the rating, which is why all this is looking even funnier to me now. It's just a huge circus.

what a load of crap

MPAA has not yet rated AVP, which means they could say anything. Titanic should have been rated R, but it wasnt, because the MPAA just takes people off the street, sits them down, and thye watch the film, they then all vote and decide on a rating.  if it says "f**k" more then once, it is automatically R, but in the book it only says "f**k" once.  It could go either way people, I hear the producer say "we are aiming at PG-13" and paul saying "Im not aiming for any specific rating, but I would be surprised if it got a PG-13, i mean, its pretty grusome."   WE DONT KNOW UNTIL IT SAYS SO ON MPAA.COM or AVP-MOVIE.COM!!!

so a load of 12 year old wankers are gona be alowed in the cinema, great

I'll agree with everybody, it's bullshit until I hear it from the MPAA itself.

fwew god man as soon as i saw this i was shaking...glade to know its not real   8)  .

O shit. The people out there need to decide on a damn rating because they are getting us a ll hyped up for something that hasent officialy been decided. There are alot of graphic PG-13 movies out there. Theres Wyatt Earp, the Tremors movies and look at Jaws. That was scary, graphic and PG. (because there was no PG-13 in the 70's. Its gotten to the point where Im not taking any of these magazine ratings seriously untill MPAA gives me one.

eh, im startin to give two shits less about the rating anymore, im jus waiting for the "good film" anderson has promised us

ok what r these new pics in this dumb mag?

They said f**k once in the book right? Was there more language in the book other than that?

a little motly s" damns and stuff like that.

They said f**k once, then shit some times then bastard and bitch but not often. It usualy described them as "cursing themselves"

If you guys have downloaded the featurettes or even when you watch them online you should pay attention , if you haven't, to some particular scenes which in my mind guarantee it to be an R film: When Quinn hits the Predator in the arm in the shot where you can fully see Quinn before he is facing the Predator you see three hanging bloody ass bodies. Now I have never seen that much blood in an PG-13 before. GO AVP!

I also remember one time that WB projected Troy the PG-13 rating, but look how what it got in the end!

Why are there no thinkers here?  Come at it from a marketing and financial perspective and you'll come to the conclusion that the studio would like its expensive Summer tentpole film to be seen by the widest possible audience available and a PG13 rating assures this.  If you really want a sequel then you not only want the film to be good you wish it to do well at the box office. Teenagers have a lot of money these days and the best way to sell them products based on a certain film is to make that film available for them to watch.  Honestly all this bitching about ratings is idiotic, an AVP film with a ten minute graphic rape scene would be a certified R but would it be tonally right for the picture? Would it make it a better film? Would giving one of the characters a chainsaw make the film better? Sometimes I get the feeling that kids these days would rather watch a public beheading than sit through a good story well told if it isn't soaked in blood and covered in shit.  If you don't want kids in your session then go to a session where there aren't likely to be any children present.  PG13 doesn't mean they've made Barney Vs The Teletubbies all it means is they want a secure return on their investment.  And until any of you kids can pony up the cash to finance and distribute your own AVP film for Fox you have no choice but to accept the studio's decision and continue on with your lives, if you can.  I realise that this may come as a shock to many of you but major Hollywood studios don't make films in order to appease the smallest amount of people regardless of the potential financial losses. It's called showBUSINESS, not showfriends, you better get used to it.  I'm not having a go at anyone or trying to provoke the easily provoked I'm just telling it like it is and I'm merely trying to be the voice of reason.  PG13, R, NC17, X, G whatever the important thing is that it's an enjoyable piece of filmed entertainment and that it does decent enough business to warrant the greenlighting of more films in the series.  Tell your friends, tell their kids, tell everybody to see this film and buy the associated merchandise then maybe we can get someone like Guilliermo del Toro to do for AVP2 what he did for Blade II.  Stay positive.

Yeah, things change all the time. Nothing is for sure in this world. And good point Rafael. Like Starship Troopers: MPAA Rating:   R for graphic Sci-Fi violence and gore, and for some language and nudity.  AVP may not have nudity, but bloody skinned people hanging?? Sounds like gore to me, not to mention alien bodies being cut in half, chestbusters coming out of folks. Yeap.........  Hey, one of my personal favorite movies (The Exorcist) ISN'T gory, but it sure scared the shit out of me when I was 7 and is of course R.

nooo, not PG-13    >:D   Stupid FOX.

If this movie doesn't get rated R then it probably will SUCK. PROBABLY.....  SO let's hope the PG-13 thing is just another rumor...

Your right G-Dog. I dont like the Exorcist and dont plan on watching it again(it scared the shit out of me and I couldnt sleep without a revolver next to my bed) but it got R for obvious reasons. I have confidence that this in the end will be R.

wondering, what u guys think will be the major differences if this movie is rated pg 13 or r.. will the cut out all the good stuff with pg13 so we'l have to wait for director's cut or what

Regicidal, you don't get it. Its easier to get an R rating today than its ever been. Back when Jaws got a PG was a different time. That would definitely be rated R in todays political climate. A PG13 very likely means this is gonna be mindless action, not scary/intense, and that alot of the graphic shots have all been cut out. Its not 'kids these days' wanting to see movies soaked with blood, its wanting the whole movie to be on the screen. The gorey scenes add realism. They make for a more immersive experience; 'gore' is not automatically gratuitous - sometimes it must be there for artistic reasons.  A PG-13 rating is likely to mean the movie will be all cut up, and that they are hoping to make all their money back opening weekend from kids, before bad word of mouth spreads? An R would mean to me they have confidence in it and think it will have legs and do well financially because people will want to go see a good movie. You can spin it any way you want, but a PG-13 rating is a very bad sign for this film.

LOL!! thats crazy Variable, I admit, I was scared out of my mind for a while, but then I started to watch it by myself at night, still got scaerd, but loved it...   Anyway, AVP now, TO FLONGE: You are an example of what I was reffering to in my old postings that some people kept misunderstanding. A movie is not going to suck just because it has a PG-13 rating man. The rating does not make the movie, the movie makes the rating. They aren't going to take anything out of the final cut of the film IF they do that. It will still be as good as its going to be if they give it an R-rating. Nothing personal...

Damn....that would suck then. Still, PG-13 or not, its going to be bad ass regardless. It ain't gonna suck, have faith fellas.

When I said:Damn..... that would suck then, I wansn't talking about the movie. I was reffering to the cutting out of the final cut of the film and having to wait for the Director's cut of it.

SO WHAT IS THE ACTUALLY RATING GONNA BE PG-13 OR R? CANT THESE ASSHOLES FROM FOX MAKE UP THEIR GODDAMNED MINDS? I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ONE SITE SAYS PG-13 AND OTHER SAYING ITS R. I WANT AVP TO BE RATED R BECAUSE IT WOULD LOOK SO SILLY BEING PG-13 WITHOUT THE CHESTBURSTERS, SKINNED PEOPLED, BEHEADINGS, DOUBLE-JAW BITING, RIPPING PEOPLE IN HALF AND SO ON. FOX ARE A BUNCH OF DUMBASSES WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE ALIEN AND PREDATOR FANS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THEIR GETTING THEIR MONEY FROM THIS MOVIE. IT BETTER BE A R MOVIE OR I'M GONNA BE PISSED AND I BET THERES GONNA BE ALOT OF DISAPPOINTED FANS OF THOSE FRANCHISE MOVIES IF THIS MOVIE GETS A PG-13 RATING.    >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D  

G-Dog, you're right. Why not censor all movies of all the gorey, intense, ... scenes since they'd be "just as good" as the un-censored, R version. I mean, why not just show the 'edited for tv' versions at the movies too, that would save them alot of trouble, and the movie's are "just as good" anyhow. Why stop at PG-13, why not make all movies rated G, they'd be just as good. Make all movies appropriate for children, cuz it aint gonna suck man, its gonna be baddasss regardless, heh. *rolls eyes*

I do want this movie to be R, but now I honestly don't care if it is PG-13. Movies now can have more gore, language and nudity then they did 10 years ago. I read an articale that says all those factors have gone up in every rating. Movies rated G, PG, PG-13, & R all have more violence, sex, and language then they used to. If this movie gets rated R, I will be happy and have no doubts. If it gets a PG-13, I will be a little disappointed but it won't stop me from watching it. I don't believe anything will be cut out either just because of the rating. Like I said, movies can have more violence now then they did 10 years ago. If it gets PG-13, I believe it will be an R movie with a PG-13 rating. The rating doesn't make the movie. I believe FOX just wants it rated PG-13 to make more money. Bottom line is, if the movie is exactly the same as Paul Andersons final cut with nothing cut out and it gets rated PG-13, I wont mind.

i read the article on the dark horizons web site in a mag called shivers and it doesn't say anything about the film being pg-13! ITS ALL BULLSHIT!!!!!!!   >:D  

*sigh* Thank you....newbornsux89 Jonesy, bit of sarcasm there me thinks. Good point, nowadays ratings are different from the old fashion days you know?   Like before, women treated their husbands right, and took care of them, nowadays women just don't give a shit.

i just don't know how american rating works..i know american's can be pretty uptight when it comes to "protecting their precious christian children " so..i live in europe..we don't care for ratings that much. what i ment is will i have to wait for the directors cut to see the movie as it was intened..like with aliens

I actually agree with you G-Dog, but I think this story is too voilent to be PG-13, therefore they will cut it down to a light version. But I haven't seen the movie yet...so I don't know if this is the case That's why; I think it probably will "suck" if it gets rated PG-13.  Nevertheless I will go and watch AVP a hundred times, and a think a AVP movie is great whatever happens, I'm just hooping for it too be a successful and a memorably movie and not just another VS movie. Because the Alien and the Predator characters have really alot more depth than all other SFI monsters ever made!

but with Aliens the none directors cut it was still rated R (18 in UK)

i would prefer it to be an R rates movie then pg-13

-=Daishi=- The aliens directors cut is rated exactly as the first version, so it's not exactly the same case there...  the directors cut should just give more extended scenes and not just more gore, that's abit absurd...

i meant to say "rated" sorry!

Yes i am with G-Dog to. No mater the rating its gonna be the badass. I have come to think that PA made this movie graphic and R material. Then the finished version goes into Fox. They know this is a big deal and they figure lets get even more money by downgrading it to PG-13 and cut out some blood and gore. That is how big companys do buisness my freinds. Sad to say but it is. If it is PG-13 I would bet a poker hand that thats what happened. But it will still be badass. The first time these things have come to the silver screen together, some of the best CGI and graphics, and from what I'v seen talented actors. regardless this movie is going to kick ass.

i dont get the people who say its "ok" if the film goes pg-13. THIS IS ALIEN VS PREDATOR!!!!! did they make Jason Vs Freddy a pg-13 NO!!!

it might be good but it wont have the same feeling to the movie as did the Aliens and Predator

How will there be a cool chestbursting scene with a PG-13???  How will there be a nice plasma cannon hit or a cool wristblade hit on a human character with PG-13???  How can the predator skin their enemies and clean their skulls with a PG-13???

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The thing is that there wont be a good chestbursting scene or plasma cannon hit or skinned bodys. If it is PG-13 it wont be the same sadly. There wont be the gore of Predator or the blood from the Alien movies. Lets hope for R. It wont be right with out that stuff.

flonge, it wont dude. they will not be able to show this at all. the people who say its ok for it to be a pg-13 obivously havent seen the movies

I agree that it will be either good or bad, rating will not matter.  However, it is going to be very difficult watching an Alien/Predator film that is bloodless.  And yes, we know from the subject matter that it will be violent so to garner a PG-13, it will have to be bloodless.  Am I the only one who is absolutely sick and tired of off screen kills?  PG-13 movies set up the death but then quick cut away.  This is NOT suppose to be a suspense film, it is a monster movie.  On the flip side an R rating does not guarantee us anything!  Resident Evil anyone?  Compare DOTD and RR and tell me how RR should have been rated R?  It is getting to the point where there is more gore on TV than in movies.  The ALIEN films were in no way gory but combined with Predator films, it should be impossible to get a PG-13 rating just from the violence standpoint unless they have castrated the Preds.  Because of the limited appeal of this film already, i am guessing it will NOT be a huge box office draw here in the states.  Once it officially garners the PG-13 rating, many fans of the series will not bother going.  I for one will go to see it but we ALL know that both series will be officially dead by September.

im sure FOX are not stupid but if they do make this into pg-13 then most of the fans will be disappointed and if it doesnt do well people will be asking fox and maybe paul anderson why didnt they use the full potienal of the film and also kept in tradition with the likes of Alien and Predator in terms of realism the other movies made for it, if get me.

i ment "if you get me"

I'm not a gore junkiee but I think the creatures we are dealing with here should be, If we are to respect them as scary... That's what scared me when I first saw P1, that the predator skinned them and hanged them on trees, and hunted them down like we do with animals, took trophees and so on... now with aliens the life-cycle is pretty gory... the chestbursting and their mouth-attack primerly aiming at the human skull... I think this makes the aliens badasses...  Now if they're not planning on showing us these things on the movie. I think the 45min tactic won' t scare us... PA said that this was the reason we got scared beacuse we had to wait untill we saw the creature... well I won't be scared if the creature appears in the middle of the film as a "light" version either... whatever tension is built up... What is the point with 4 times longer wristblades if he doesnt stab a human or an alien with one... Now if this would happen with a PG-13 it wouldn't be cool... neither would the chestbursting or any of the predators rituals...  Thats why I still think a PG-13 will PROBABLY make AVP suck...  It could still be the movie of the year though for me... but it would mean alot for true fans if we got to see the same gruesome **** as we saw in the old movies.

BriGuy, its a scary thought but you might be right

who thinks that paul anderson did a good job on Resident Evil?

RE had bigger potensial on being a good zombie movie inside the mansion...  But RE isn't BAD at all, it's just not excactly the same as the game...  I think PA at least tried to make RE good...

it one of those movies where you have to see it more than once. did you know that he also tried to use "alice in wonderland" ideas for the film in terms of the charactors and what happened to each of them.

i keep doing this, i ment "ITS"

RE:Apocolyspe looks better than the first one

PG-13? CRAP!!!!!!

wait, who directed apocalypse since anderson has been workin on avp for the past 2 years

Hey

LOL, sorry guys, the forums weren't being nice to me so I had to send a 'test' message. Anyhow, there's good news. Look, even if AvP is rated PG-13, its still gonna scare the bejeezus outta ya! If anyone here has seen the previews for The Village, that looks scary as hell! Its rated PG-13. Remember now, in every interview that Anderson has been a part of, he's said that he's tried to make very clear that he's going for the horror element in this film just as much as he is action. That being said, I just think that regardless of there being a PG - 13 rating or not, the film is still gonna scare ya to death, as well as provide a goodly amount of bloody fight scenes.

heres a paragraph from the book....spoilers!!!       "but as he rolled over onto his back, his eyes went wide. a third predator stood over him, wristblades     unshelthed. befor the roughneck can even scream, the twin blades scythed down, carving deep into his brain." now tell me is that pg13?   >:D   screw the producers.

To Flonge: Hope its not cut man. That would not be good, having to wait untill the Director's cut for the "real" version? damn....I agree with you 100% bro.  Same thing to you Variable. You're right about the companies only wanting to make the $$. That was the "bright side" I mentioned earlier to a PG-13 movie rating. More $$ in the box office, more likely to make a sequel you know?  And topman, I hear ya, and good point about Jason vs Freddy. But I bet you anything, they rated it R because it had sexual content in it. I mean, its just as gory as I think AVP isn't it? Haven't seen it (FvsJ) in a few months, so can't remember that well.  BriGuy, the franchises won't be dead by September man!! they just can't be!! NNNNNNOOOOOOOO! Naw dawg, seriously, I think it will do just fine. I mean, we're there to watch the aliens fight with the predators right? or are you there just to see blood? If that is the fact why you are there, go rent a bloody ass movie and enjoy all the blood you'd like. Kow what I mean? I agree that It won't be the same without it, still, its Alien vs Predator!!! (the sequel could be Alien(s) vs Predator(s) ) Resident Evil sucked for me, I'm sorry. I guess I was expecting too much of this film. I was disappointed...... Cetanu, good one with the Village example. Like I said, its all about the movie people. Don't be too caught up on the rating. And yeah! screw everybody!!    ;D  

What   rape scene? I didnt know there was a   rape scene!!!!!   ???     ???     ???     ???     ???     ???  

Anyone fo you guests female??  Been saying dude and bro and man to everyone, just curious.....  Anyway, I was curious, in the clips of AVP, you see the pred extend his blades longer ready to kick ass. I'm hoping Paul keeps it somewhat realistic and brns the shit out of the Pred with the alien's acid blood. Small mistakes like that sometimes kills movies. I don't know, its just me.  Example: Starship Troopers- when the brain bug stabs the female character (forgot name) in the shoulder, (note that it goes all the way through to the other side of her body) next couple of scnees after the action, she's all jumping up and down hugging people and shit.....god....just bad attention to detail you know? its like the director or writters/movie makers just didn't give a shit about the movie or something.

Maybe     this whole rating thing is just all for publicity. They started advertising I,Robot   on Tv like a week before release and   AVP a month before. After all this it will be   Rated R after kids telling their parents it will be PG-13 their parents will still take them after telling ther kid sthey will.

hey AdamJZ u can say f**k more thn 1 time in a pg-13 movie

dont worry....u get 2 c plenty of the aliens acid affect the perds in the movie if it is pretty much like the book.

Maybe FOX is doing this to keep people interested.U have to admit it is pretty gripping when you hear pg-13, then R and then back to pg-13.Everyone is going to keep interested until they find out what the rating is.

What  rape  scene? I didnt know there was a  rape  scene!!!!! confused confused confused confused confused confused

Hey Celtic, listen, buddy I hate to be forward like this, but quit using excerpts from the book as *spoilers*, the book is a fake and in no way shape or form will it accurately portray what will be in the film, so quit resorting to it. I have thousands of bits of proof that can embarass any credibility that book has...so, if you want to say something about the movie and have it be true, better go and see the movie first!

Hey Cetanu, you the one with the sneak preview of AvP?  Another thing too, everything that we see in the previews on TV or wherever, probably isn't going to make it in the movie. (I pray that it will) I just remembered, when the previews for Scary Movie 3 came out, there were scenes in the previews that didn't come out in the movie untill the DVD came out with the deleted scenes. So, that book may contain things that are not giong to be in the movie. Why would FOX put that book out exactly as the movie will be? Thats like giving everyting away.

ah ok ya the book kinda sucks btw.

When will FOX realize they have a bigger fan base than just kids seeing it because they have nothing better to do. IGaruntee that every fan will see this at least two times if it's R. That's way more money in my opinion..

Acid splash, gutting, chest bursting, dead humans, skinning, skull ripping, mouth biting! thats too much to cut out thatll make it like a movie edited for TBS!  you ugly mother Falcon!

until i dont see it on the OFFICIAL site i will not believe anything

noooooo it cant be pg-13 that usllay mean most bloody parts are left out they cant do that it has to be R

Here some informantion about what to expect if it's PG-13 and if it's R   A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year olds and younger to attend.   Enter Text  In order to be An R-rated film we know it has the movie has to be strong in violence and everything else.  So if it's PG-13 it won't include hard language, or tough violence, strong violence, or drug abuse or other elements, or a combination of some of the above. Enter Text

Alien R Aliens R Alien 3 R Predator R Predator 2 R Alien vs. Predator PG-13 (IF)  Is it just me, or something doesn't look right???   :)  

oh, and Alien Resurection R

anderson is scaring me from the fact that he keeps referring to the styles of predator and alien.  A director should keep the style of the original movies in mind, but not mimic it.  For something as grand as alien vs. predator, a new dynamic feel must be created like the new "dawn of the dead" director accomplished.  Anderson might fall short of the delivery, but the actual scene of a predator and an alien battling it out will be cool regardless.  Speaking of which, how in the hell is someone going to make something become terrifying again when they refer to the past?  the actual pivotal point of terror yields from the stalking and damage effect from a xenomorph and a predator.  One shouldn't coat the scene with "cut scene death".  Again, dawn of the dead didn't spare anyone the gore, which made it that much more terrifying.  Remeber what Anderson did with the zombies?............nothing...........no gore.......no zombies feasting on human flesh.   This makes me sick dammit!   why can't anyone obtain terror anymore??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LoL some film looks kinda outta place on that list ... hmm    :-\     :D  

18, or R is the only way, I want blood, brains and spines.

guys face the fact taht it will be pg-13 read waht Regicidal_Maniac said, hes exactly right

Hunterkiller please they will make sooooo much more money if its rated pg-13 i mean more people can see it

Mark my words people:  The official rating will be out before this month is over. So expect it sometime next week.  Trust me, you all will NOT be dissapointed.   ;)  

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ITS PROBABLY rated R material, BUT THEY PROBABLY CUT a DEAL to GET IT pg 13 FOR MONEY PURPOSES, this movie is the first of its kind and they want it to be success full, SO THERE CAN BE SEQUELS.  WE ALL SEEN THE PREVIEWS IT LOOKS SCARY !!!! an RADICAL !!! Enter Text Enter Text

I don't know why you all can't wait until its offical on the main website. Wait until its offical then whine about it please.  I'm going to see this movie no matter what.

If this does turn out to be a pg 13 suck fest then it will totaly demote the feel of the film and it will turn off allot of fans that know these films and when first hearing about this one were prbably excited because they expect it to be the good old scar fest and blood feast that we've gotten in the past.Man i know when i told all of my non alien and predator fan friends about this and showed them the trailers and teasers they were all like man about time we get an r rated scary movie at the theaters, and there exactly right the theaters in the past litle bit have been flooded with pg 13 non sence, except for like kill bill, and some other few recent r rated movies.But the fact is sure if they go for the pg 13 rating a younger crowed will be introduced to these franchises but all the old timers the have seen all the previous films probably wont even see it because hearing this movie as pg 13 , you just know its going to be a waste, now i know all the die hards will see it non the less but come on if they make this pg 13 kiss both franchises good bye!  dachande, i saw the dawn of the dead remake but i dont remember any good gore, personaly i thought that movie was pathetic and should have never have been made, im sure George Ramero was f**king pissed to say the least.If you want REAL gore, watch any of his original DEAD movies...Day, Dawn,Night of the living dead.Man they used actual pig and other farm animal intestines and stomaches and othere guts in all there scenes that called for extream gore shots.Now those are probably the most goriest movies ever made and he making a new one ,Land of the Dead! yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh   ;D     ;D  

All of you have made some really good points on the R vs PG-13 debate. I Hope the movie does really well but for that to happen it has to be R. Im a fan of PA's work Mortal Kombat was good but and R rated version would have been better. But let's remember that was 1995 and MK was one of the most popular games out there. I think Anderson was limited on what he could do with that film. It was just a classic case of the the studio wanting to make more money. And we all know what a piece of carp MK annilation was. Because PG-13 and made for kids. Remember Event Horizon graphic as hell. Soldier ok but it could have been better. Resident Evil good movie but again video game movie. Cut away shots, studio money. Now AVP the movie we've all been waiting for. The Rating unknown. Ah hell just blame the dame kids of today.

Even though there hasn't even comfirmed that AVP is PG-13 at http://movieweb.com they have AVP Rated PG-13  (for violence, language, horror images, slime and gore)

what about 13 year olds? anyway dont blame the kids blame the parents...if they let there kids to see r films (like me) then we would have a r film. but like someone said we'll find out next week, or posibly tommorow.   ;D  

wessdamess:  hey man ur rite and the thing iz that it looks pretty damn official    >:D  

The 1997 SPAWN live-action movie was rated PG-13, and the DVD version was rated R.  The same could happen for Aliens Vs. Predator.

hey guys im going away for a week to my cousins cottage, itll definitely getmy mind off of avp for a while! its consumed my life i cant go anhour without thinking about it! i need a favor from someone, perhaps you darkness, i need someone to e-mail any NEW information about AVP as it comes in! can anyone do that?  my e-mail is gangsta1138@hotmail.com   (IF THE OFFICIAL rating comes out, dont put it in the subject, i want it to be a surprise wheni open it so just put rating iss...)   thanks guys im looking forward tocoming back to talk avp! GO RATED R!  ILL Be Back!

Just the theme alone of this movie is enough to warrant it an R rating. Aliens and predators: both scary as hell. There is no way the MPAA will give it a PG-13. Look at signs. No blood, gore, violence, or language (if i can remember) of any kind, but it was the scare factor of that movie. It still scares the shit out of me. It got a PG-13 just because it was scary. Now if they add the traditional violence of the Alien and Predator sagas, you have an R rated film. Not to mention the language and innuendo. I simply cant imagine the MPAA allowing any kids to see this movie. Remember in the end it isn't FOX that rates this movie, its the MPAA.

Look, I don't get how a movie is going to suck making it pg 13.  Look at Hellboy, Lord of the Rings, Spider man, The Bourne Identity.    Those were all pretty good films.  Pg 13 or R, I don't care...As long as it is entertaining, it will be fine with me.

was hellboy sposed to be r?

GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!  Listen, PG-13 is BETTER for AvP. What are you people? 9 years old? Who the hell cares about gore, blood and whatever? The most important piece of the movie is the movie itself and if it's entertaining.  I rather have AvP make TWICE more in the boxoffice than to see 3 more mins of gore and chainsaw.

Actually, some of the people here probably ARE 9 years old.  All I want to see is the movie EXACTLY how the director envisioned it. If PA is okay with the final cut, then so am I.

i think u all should shut the f**k up!!!  if the movie is r it will be r.if those little shit want 2 see it so bad they will probly just sneek in or they will go with there parents u just cant stop it SHIT HAPPENS. but i do want 2 know wats its rated 2   :)  

i want gore lol

THIS FILM IS NOT GOING TO BE PG 13 LOL

Hate to say this folks, but where in this link did it say the film was in fact, PG-13??? http://www.visimag.com/shivers/h114_feat01.htm  I've read it twice and it doesn't say anything about the rating at all and sounds like more bullshit stirred up for nothing courtesy of DARK HORIZONS who don't know anymore than the rest of us.. All this bitching and whining has been for nothing..LOL!!!!!

f**k the PG-13!   >:D  

I'm inclined to believe Gareth from PlanetAVP's administration. Although I'm rather disinclined to accept the cold hard truth, it's going to be shoved in my face. Let's just accept that the franchise is dead so we won't have a heart attack when PG-13 is confirmed.

damz,this forum keeps getting so big, have to read for 30 min to see where i left off -_-*   anywayz, yeh, my bad about the gore, still they cut out some good scenes, jose stfu, avp needs blood and gore, it's what makes war a war, u want entertainment go watch suckass dr phill,   if pg 13 means they cut out all the gore so you won't see any real action, say the marines in alien resurrection,than that just sux...  why does this subject even come up, its an alien and predator movie, they should just say R when they first started talking about making it. Fox must be very ignorant indeed

To tell you the truth, I was shocked beyond belief when I first heard that AVP was destined to become a PG-13 film. All the films, novels, games, etc. were all incredibly adult oriented. Until this film, I couldn't think of a more violent and crude franchise. However, the times are changing to please the kids, and their christian parents.

read carefully, bkb. Visimag *print* edition has it, not online edition. the PG13 sentence is there.

I'm pretty new to both the alien and predator universes and have never played the games. I'm not a fanatical follower of any movie series ( except the lotr trilogy ) but I reckon the predator is absoloutly the best alien ever created for any movie, and the aliens arn't half bad either and I'm on tenterhooks waiting for both stories to be thrown together.              I live in Australia and here we have G, PG, M-15+ and R. Isn't there any middle ground between PG and R in the states? Most films here are M-15+ and they have decent gore, hell even Dog Soldiers was rated M here and it has guys head being ripped off, another disimbouled and then glued back together with superglue so I'm not worried about the violence level in AVP personally.             My only major worry is that I'll have to wait longer to see it all the way down here and I can't find an Australian release date. Does anyone know?

It doesnt make sense how this shit always comes up.  Its freaky to even think about a alien or pred movie being pg13.  Something is total wrong with this movie.  I think alien/pred fans think its awful so they wanna make te movie pg13 to get as much money as they can out of it.    ether way they deserve it for picking paul anderson!  ahahaa

INPORTENT: WHEN DOS THE OFFICAIL RATING GET ANOUNCED?????? THEN YOU WILL ALL KNOW .. IM NOT WORRY'D ONE BIT CUS I KNOW THAT THESE RUMOURS IS BULLSHIT THEY JUST SORRYING PG 13 TO WIND THE FANS UP BECAUSE ITS THE BIGGEST MOVIE CROSS OVER EVER MADE AND EVER WILL BE MADE!! THANK YOU

SORRYING= SAYING LOL

All Predators have rating "R".

oh by the way what that website or mag has quoted ,its the same quote from fangoria apart from the pg 13 bit so i smell some thing.. if you all read fangoria you will know what i mean.

the alien saga is all about gore u moron     a chestBURSTER       a hole punching tongue     acid for blood     the predator movies are all about killing your opponents by hand or with a cannon and then ripping the spinal ccllumn out of your prey             and why do you think they have a gauntlet with blades,   a telescoping spear and a friggin plasma cannon that blows the enemys chest to kingdom come        this movie must have gore or else it will not feel like the movies it originated from even though it is a totally seperate franchise   who is with me on this?

i have seen websites sucj as countingdown.com among other that had the rating as an R but i just came from the seeing the sites and they have it as not yet rated soooooo im quess iz coming down to PG13      >:D  

For those of you who read the book and know where the chestburster comes from right before scar catches it............aren't you surprised there isn't any blood on the chestburster?  A bloodless chestburster in all of the trailers = PG-13.  I have read the book, and I'm quite surprised there is no blood in the scene.

Since when did spiderman eat people or have cut poeple open? And hell no! i wanna see blood and gore.  Thats the point of these movies!!!!  These creatures weapons and attacks are all by cutting up or exploding each other.  If it was just guns then it can keep a pg13 but bitting into somesones head or cutting the preds legs and arms off deservs a R.  Even in the novel theres great human gore.. wtf they gonna do, take it out in movie?   Your mad!    READ THE NOVEL since the movie will stink. They are rating pg13 becuase they know paul anderson fed the movie up and they are trying to get as much money as they can for another crappy movie from paul.

AliensRule.  thats a good point!  really a sad moment for alien and pred fans.  Im really dissapointed.

why do people look at the burster in the trailer is pg13 ,well has any of u guys seen the kill bill trailers, there bloody but they cut it out. the one rule of trailers is u cant have blood in it.

Many web-sites post bullsh*t news. However, there are a few reliable sources. For example what about MSN? They say it's R (will be).

I think the reason the chestburster Scar is holding isn't bloody is because in the movie u see it through Predator Vision. Therefore there is no need to film it bloody. The scene we've seen just hasn't been edited in Predator Vision yet.

I'm a fan of the alien and predator franchises since I was 6 it was all known for violence,gore and language. Predator was graphic.The nature of these monsters are graphic and violent. I will see avp regardless. Anderson has done his homework and the movie is in good hands. I love the franchises since I was young. Hopefully i'm speaking for the die hard fans. Bring the gore,bloodshed,violence. August 13 I hope there is a war between humans,predators and aliens with bloodshed and gory battles.

leftcoastpunk08 those movies you mentioned dont even compare to alien and predator films in no way, ans Jose, Not having blood and guts in an alien or predator movie is rediculous to even think about, now it dosnt have to be blood and guts ever 5 min. but there has to be alien head bites, chestbursters , preds holding freshly ripped out spines and skulls, shoulder cannon boby and head shots from the preds as well as some wrist blade slicing to make this movie work

Well ain't that strange, they confirmed the PG-13, but I don't see no damn rating on the website!

Jose i think you must be 9 years old because you obviosly have no idea what your talking about there buddy, this movie will suck donkey dick without blood and guts.Like i said before this will most likely kill both franchises of they make it pg 13,, sure the younger people will now be able to go see it at the show but the older crowds that have liked the previous movies because there scary and intence and offer all the gory goodness we've come to expect from these monsters will be turned away by the fact that now its been all watered down to a pg 13 rating and thats going to piss allot of people off and make this movie seem like a joke and not a R rated horro fest we all want.Now regardless of the rating all the die hards will go see this either way like myself but if it is pg 13 i will be very disapointed and definatly not enjoy it as much , that is for sure and i know this even before seeing the movie.Now im still waiting for an official release from the web site or see it on a commercial before i believe all these sites with there empty assumptions and half assed opinions on the final rating.

OK PEOPLE!! I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THIS DISCUSSION IS POINTLESS.....SO IF IT'S PG-13  WHAT?  YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT ANYWAY, AND AS I MENTIONED IT BEFORE, ANDERSON KNEW ALL THE WAY WHAT KIND OF MOVIE FOX WANTED SO, IF ITS PG13 IT'S GONNA SUCK BECAUSE THIS ARE INSANE MONSTERS, IT'S NOT VAN HELSING, IT'S NOT GOLLUM OR SPIDERMAN...AND IT WILL DESTROY THE WHOLE ESCENSE OF THE CREATURES BEING SAVAGE MOFOS, I JUST FINISHED READING THE NOVEL,  ITS GOOD BUT THE ENDING IS MEGA-CHEESY.... AND I DONT THINK THIS MOVIE WILL BE LONGER THAN 100 MINUTES (THAT ALSO SUCKS) ANYWAY,  HERE ARE MY POINTS(BEWARE SOME SPOILERS) AFTER READING THE NOVEL AND KEEPING TRACK OF THE PROCESS ON THE INTERNET, WATCHING ALL THE FEATURETTES AND TRAILERS:  1.THE STORY IS KINDA' LAME 2. BUT IT HAS THE 2 GREATES MONSTERS OF ALL TIME 3. THE BUDGET CLEARLY IS LESS THAN 80 MILLION (OTHERWISE WINSTON AND GIGER WOULD BE INVOLVED, UNLESS ANDERSON WAS SO STUPID TO NOT EVEN ASK FOR THEM) 4. THE LEX CHARACTER IS PATHETIC, AND SCAR IS EVEN MORE PATHETIC.... 5. THE PREDATOR DESIGNS LOOK GREAT (A LITTLE BULKY) ! 6. THE ALIENS LOOK TERRIBLE....NO GIGER ON IT... 7. I'M SURE IT'LL BE ACTION PACKED AND A LOT OF COOL MOMENTS! 8. ANDERSON IS RELYING ON THE 45 MINUTES OF NO MONSTER SO WE ALREADY KNOW WHEN TO EXPECT THE CREATURES (THAT WAS KINDA STUPID OF HIM) 9. YOU COULD'NT CARE LESS ABOUT THE CHARACTERS... 10. THERE'S NO REASON AT ALL FOR WEYLAND TO APPEAR IN THE MOVIE.... 11.I'M REALLY EXCUTED ABOUT THIS MOVIE 12. I'M SURE I'LL WATCH IT MORE THAN ONCE EVEN IF IT'S BAD 13. FOX IS THE STUDIO SO THEY ARE IN COMMAND, ANDERSON IS NOT A SPIELBERG OR A LUCAS... 14. I DONT THINK THEY'RE REALLY THINKING IN THE FANS...  AND LAST BUT NO LEAST: 15. I'M 90 PERCENT SURE IT'S GONNA BE PG-13  BUT, LETS WAIT FOR THE OFFICAL MPAA RATING OK?  SALUDOS! AND DON'T HATE MY COMMENTS, IT'S MY OPINION

Scar predator rocks he's learning the human ways and understanding.The alien designs look great.

Hey guys , this is not official, this is not on the mpaa site, this is not on the official avp site, its not even in a traila. what does that mean? Simply that this will not be rated before august. They will keep us in the wait. I dunno if this is wanted or is PA in fight of his life for that rating, but it will surely not come out before august, Im sure it will be release with the Final Official Trailer that should come maybe around 5 of august maybe??  Anyway, Ive said this, alot of ppl here have said it , but i will say it again.  WAIT TILL ITS OFFICIAL.      ;)  

read what El Demonio Cazador  just said hes right

THIS IS A BUNCH OF BS WE AS FANS GOT SCREWED OVER. Anderson in fangoria #234 said gore as in PRED and Alien blood now why the hell was he not specific in his other interviews when he said that it's PRETTY gory.  p.s I'm back                   shadowpred

How do you think of the scene where the predators are fighting for their lives while thousands of aliens jump on the pyramid.

This sucks I just came from planetavp and they said they got an e-mail from 20th century fox saying the mpaa gave avp a PG-13 rating. They said it will be announced soon. This is an unspeakable outrage and an insult to the franchise names. Hopefully it's a rumor more than likely its not.

People its not offical yet its not offical its not offical.  How many times do I have to say it if Fox wanted to tell us its been rated then why its not on the main site right now.  Think about if it was rated then they would put it on the site already.  I checked the MPAA site and nothing was up yet for AVP so there is still hope here.  If you don't believe me check for yourself at MPAA site.  If anyone notice that the tv spot doesn't come on until at night or its just me.  So far I havn't catched it during the day has anyone else.  I'm just wondering oh and it still says NOT YET RATED!

pg13 is too gay for predator. better b R!!!

sad news in history...its official...i saw the commercial for it on tv.... its rated pg 13

i still cant believe it...anderson did it again..he ruined something that should of never been f**ked with...im sorry guys but like u guys as well at least most of you i have been waiting for this a very long time and to found out its pg 13 cant believe it. like i said on my post before...i saw the commercial and it said striclty pg-13  im so hurt. i know i sound like a pussy but its just notgonna be the same. he did it he ruined . both franchsies just my be over. MOTHER F*CKER!!!!!!! ERRRRRRRRRRRRR   *punches hole in wall*

JOSE............BOY PLEASE DONT SAY THAT AGAIN ,LEAVE THIS SITE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, IM PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW AND REALLY REALLY REALLY DONT NEED TO HEAR BULLSH--T FROM A SO CALLED AVP FAN,DONT BE STUPID, WE REAL AVP FANS DONT NOT NEED TO HEAR THAT RIGHT NOW MAYBE LATER WATCH YOUR POKEMON SHOW, OR GO TO A POKEMON FORUM,TALK ABOUT THE NEW MOVIE COMING OUT PLEASE, JUST SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH   >:D  

In response to the kid who's rediculously spurious reasons for demanding gore in the film in order to make it more real for him are laughable at best.  He said that it's easier to attain an R rating today than ever before but this is plainly a falsehood. If anything it's harder than ever as a study of MPAA rulings has recently concluded.  

QuotePG-13 Today Was an R Yesterday, Says Study   The MPAA ratings board over the past decade has relaxed its standards in judging films for violence and sex, according to a study by the Harvard School of Public Health. The study, released on Tuesday, described a "ratings creep" in which current films that are rated PG or PG-13 are being released with more sexual or violent content than films with the same ratings ten years ago. "The MPAA appears to tolerate increasingly more extreme content in any given age-based rating category over time," the study said. It went on to call for an overhaul of the ratings system and suggested that whatever system emerges, it apply to all forms of entertainment, including music, home video, and games. However, MPAA spokesman Rich Taylor told today's (Wednesday) New York Times: "A single body can't rate everything that comes through the pipeline. ... It's logistically unfeasible. With the volume of hours of TV and cable and film and games and music, it becomes a mathematical impossibility."

He then said that Jaws released as PG in 1977 film would be slapped with an R rating if released today but he and others clearly don't get it.  Had PG13 existed at the time the film would almost certainly have receieved that rating but in the 27 years since then standards have relaxed and what was then considered R is now PG13 and so on as you slide down the scale.  Jaws has been recently rereleased on DVD and it still holds its PG rating intact with no cuts.  Spielberg pressured the MPAA to create the PG13 rating over 20 years ago in order than there be a middle ground for films between kidfare and adults only.  In 1987 Predator was released as an R rated film BUT this is not due to gore or any horror effect it is related to the "high level of frequent very course language" as fact that can be proven by doing a side by side comparison of the film Predator with Jurassic Park III which has the same level of blood and gore yet almost no swearing and is itself a PG13 rated film.  They were shooting for this PG13 rating from the get go as they always do with tentpole films annd there will be very little if any deleted goreshots littering the cutting room floor.  So gore-hounds relax the film will have a PG13 level of gore under today's relaxed standards which will be the equivalent of an R rating level of gore from 20 years ago it just won't have HBO-mouth with every second character making Pussy jokes or calling the creatures c**ts and motherf**kers.  But if you still want that experience you could watch the film as is and get a friend to yell obscenities at you from the row behind.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH JOSE,IM REALLY PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW AND IM REALLY NOT IN THE MOOD TO LISTEN TO BULLSH--T,JUST GO TO THE POKEMON FORUM AND TALK ABOUT THEir NEW MOVIE PLEASE,OOOHHHH GOD JUST COME BACK LATER AND MAYBE ILL PUT UP WITH THE BULLSH--T, JUST BE QUIET PLEASE,FOR YOUR OWN GOOD SON,GO HOME WATCH POKEMON YOULL FEEL MUCH BETTER,JUST SHUT THE FU--K UP!   8)  

Regicidal:  Thank you for that post.  That was one of the most coherent and thought-out ones that I've read in a while.  Thanks for the info (which is basically what I've been feeling all along).

Jose has the right attitude and the rest of you whingers are obviously just children who should be rejoicing at the relaxed rating standards that mean you can actually go to the film legally.  Seriously, all this screaming that a lowered rating is a bad sign for a film whose story and content are still exactly the same is sickeningly stupid.

Predator being compared to Jurassic 3 in the gore levels, they deffiatly had different amounts of gore, did jurassic park have fully skinned full lenght body shots of people hung upside down ?, or piles of gutted intestines and other major organs ?, did jp3 have dinos tearing the spinal colums of humans out for tropheys?. I dont even remember any gore in jp3 for facks sake.Man i know this is going to be lame

Sentinel:  Who the heck are you ranting at?

Thank you Galmorzu it's refreshing to know that there are people who actually read this far down the page.  I hope you enjoy the film as much as I know I will.

Maniac you're losing the point.... it's not the gory nonsense or cursing language.... its the creature's nature to be Savage Mofo's.... the gruesome moments on the previous movies are shocking and not for kids.... I mena even the videogame is for Mature players!!  Besides if you read the novel you'll realiza that it's a light version of the monsters...  oh well...I've said enough....

Hey Bringer Of Death you obviously don't remember JP3 at all as it DOES have a hanging body in an advance state of decomp and there is just the same level of blood and death, chomping and dismembering in JP2 as there is in Predator.  I watched it this morning to test out my sound system, and because I enjoy the movie.  The difference is in the language.

lol, I hear that.  I was hoping that somewhere in all this I could find someone talking rather reasonably.  Do you have an AIM or anything?  My thing is that I have a bad feeling critics are going to pan this movie, but while it might not be a "good" movie, it can still be a really fun movie that I will enjoy seeing a few times.  From what I read in the book it really seems this way, and I have to admit, the aliens seem to be the best represented since the first two movies.  They don't feel hokey at all.  I'm really looking forward to it.    8)  

I wonder if people went into the movie not knowing the rating if they'd still have a problem with it?  From what I read in the book, it's not that the kind of stuff people wanted was taken out, it's just that the story progressed in a way that it never really dealt with any of it.  There just wasn't any time.

Galmorzu I agree that the movie is gonna be fun I read the book and looks like it.... but it's losing the power of being a Horror-Sci Fi movie to be a Pop-Corn Movie and that really hurts the fans that have been waiting  this movie for years...And the real problem is that Paul Anderson misled us... thats why I think everybody is kind of outraged... but we all are going to watch it anyways!!  Saludos!

El Demonio:  I know what you're saying.  I wish it was rated R as well, but while I'm a bit more reserved than I was before, I still think it can be pulled off well enough.  There's actually very little of people being attacked by either species in this movie, which means most of the violence is between aliens and predators, and that doesn't hold up as strictly as human violence does in the ratings.  And the things that I see a lot of people complaining about (ie, skinned bodies, skulls and spines torn out, etc) just don't have room in this story.  The flow and direction of the story doesn't leave room to put those things in, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, because it moves on quickly to the stuff between the aliens and predators fairly quickly.  But yeah, we're all going to see it anyway, and I think as long as people quit WANTING to be disappointed by one thing or another, they'll find themselves actually liking what we are given more than they'd expected.  And for the record, I don't think Paul misled us.  I just think Fox decided this was going to be set a particular rating, and what the movie ended up having just made that mark due to lax standards.

Yeah I'm expecting a movie that is fun and can stand up to repeat viewings but by no means a darling  of the critics. I used to work as a journo and film critic and I came to the conclusion those guys are mostly bitter, old, frustrated wannabes who hate most of everything, a bit like the kind of hardcore internet geeks at AICN. Since I was still youngish at the time I decided to stop writing about other people's films and get into it myself. Doing is much more fun than hating.  My taste in films is extremely varied and I've always been very forgiving of films that other people didn't take to, (except T3, I hated T3.)  I'm expecting a cult film with a passionate but none too large group of devoted followers. Something along the lines of Ford Fairlane or Last Action Hero but with Aliens and Predators beating on each other. If it rises above my expectations, all the better.  Sorry I don't have AIM or anything. I'm a bit techfeeble, I post here or at Corona Terminator boards

Ah, Last Action Hero.  I know it's considered awful, but I get such a kick out of watching that movie.     :)    I don't know, I just have an easy time enjoying a movie even while knowing it's not a really good movie.  I hated House of the Dead with a passion, though.  One of the very few movies I could sit through.  I didn't mind T3, but I found that I can't really watch it again like I can with other movies.  The same with Jurassic Park III.  I had fun seeing it in the theater, and have it on DVD, but I just can't make myself watch it again.  I don't really hate either of these, they're just not as fun as others are.  lol, and I know I'll be burned at the stake for this, but I consider it such a guilty pleasure on a Saturday night with friends.     ;D  

Wow, it's getting late.  I forgot to type a whole section of a sentence!  I meant to say, I know I'll be burned at the stake for this, but I even consider Freddy vs. Jason a guilty pleasure to watch on a Saturday night with friends.  Almost sounded bad there     ???  

look rite.. my view?  PG13 is an insult unless its a childrens film which depicts mild violence.. such as peter pan? k wateva, lame fighting scenes which provoke children to do the same shit.. thats pg13...  the master piece of aliens.. and the predtor should not be dis-respected so much with a pg13 rating in a desperate hope to bring families into the cinema.. i say.. M 15+ and let the little f**kers at home wait to see this.. or let them sneak into it.. simple, their not old enough to appriciate the horror of these two creatures.  R rating? are you people stupid? R ratings dont exist any more unless your looking at kill bill or a porn flick..  kill bill was given its R rating.. i duno why? 200+ people dying in a bloody aweful way.. but when their are fictional charectors killing say 5-10 people, that doesnt deserve an R-Rating.. thinking realisticly and say either M or MA  M15 or MA18+  MA18+ being same as R rated but i think the R rating brings with it an enforced attitude - 'you will not watch this if you are under 18!'  M is the perfect rating.. 15+, because anyone over the age of 13,14 is able to appriciate these movies and their into that horror crap and quickly grab ur biatch cause shes scared shit.. or sit down with ur nerd friends and watch another fake show thats just cool..  M15+ .. whos with me?

This movie is going to be stupid people im going to see it but i know now its really going to be stupid with out the gore and realism,everything is going to look fake, i was just watching the predator on DVD and alien resurection,and my god they where both very very violent movies by far,far from a pg-13 rating,and the reason why these movies where far from a pg-13 rating was because the dir made a REAL f**king alien and predator movie,people you need to wake up! its not going to be the same if its pg-13,what you are going to see is 2 fake aliens and predators slapping each other in a fight when what they should be really doing is ripping each other apart, this going to be my last post i will make about this pg-13 shit, you will not see any chestbusters that look realistic with the blood flying everywhere and gore,you willl not see predators skinning or cutting off any body part in this film,you might see one scene where they do that,but it will not have any blood or gore in the scene,and it will make it look very very very very fake,,the movie will not be realistic ,it will be more of trying to hold make from the real gritty darkness of what these creatures are really from and who they really are,hahahah my god there putting a predator that skins people alive and rips out the peoples skull and spine and keeps it as a trophy,i dont know why the predator have huge blades in this film,it not like they can really use it,because tust me if a predator uses thoses blade on anyone,BLOOD GUTTS will be flying everywhere!,but if the predators does use it,lol its going to look fake people you cant make a movie like AVP and have it pg-13,and needs to be a FULL ON HEAVY DUTY R rating,the characters are plan Violent ,scary dark creatures from hell,these creatures where made by satan himself lol,just the alien movies alone where all very viloent,you would think that now that your gong to put the predator and aliens in the same picture,you would think that the violence whould sky rocket! but no lololololol they going to make this movie lol a rated pg-13 ,what a FU__KING joke,thank you paul anderson for F---king up another film again! all i know if this movie has been pussy wipped,im going to see this movie just to see how much they F___ked it all up so i can cry and laugh it, i waited 10 years for this movie,to find out its pg-13 for kids,i bet the kids are real happy now that the new super heroes are called predator and alien,these are not super heroes for kids to cheer at.One last thing to bring some reality to you pg-13 lovers which are 17% of the whole population, H.R gigers work is for adults only,to look at and to understand,not for kids to play with, and what they have done right here right now has taken ART and put it in the childrens hands,so they take it home and play with it,AVP is a peace of art,not for 13 year olds,or any kids out there.Anything else pg-13 lovers out there? i can still make as much money if it was R.,but hey,PAUL anderson is good at that,making stupid movie like resident but it still made alot of money,but who care right?

Well did anyone seen I Robot I know I'm going off the subject, but trying to prove a point about now a days  PG 13 movies.  

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Well I watch pretty much PG 13 movies and I Robot had some violence and some course language not the Fbomb over and over like the word shit which Will Smith said much in the movie.  Also there was two nude scenes one with Will Smith and another with the girl both taken a shower, but not together at different times in the movie.  It didn't show much only a side view and the other shower part you see her, but covered with steam.  Also there was some blood a part where Will Smith spits out a bunch of blood from his mouth. Spoiler done   What I'm trying to say is like some movies get a R rating moslty for the language in every other line almost a person would say the Fbomb if you know what I mean.  I'm watching Predator on tv now and still has all the blood and gore they show, but the only thing they cut is the language part.  Also it was rated MA s when it came on at 12 on FX if anyone lives in US eastern time right now.  Like Regicial Manic said about JP3 and the first 2 movies which I saw all of them did have gore in it, but not the language thats why they got the PG 13.  Probably why AVP got a PG 13 rating there isn't much course language.  Please people don't start judging the movie because Oh no it PG 13 and it going to suck hello how do you know its going to suck if you didn't even seen the movie yet.  See the movie first then judge ok.  I'm waiting for a long time to and can't wait till Aug. 13.

I'm happy to here there is a female pred/alien fan. Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope it turns out to be rated R. Lets face it the franchises were built on gore,violence and bloodshed. Take care

If this =damn thing is indeed pg 13 its going to be like when you watch any pred or alien move on a normal tv network, CUT TO HELL, no coarse language, no intence violence, and no graphic guts or blood, I watched Pred 1 a few weeks ago, and the part were billy finds the bodies upside down with no skin was cut right out, so we saw him pull the branches away and then we just get his expression, another cut part was when the pred kills the dude with the glasses, now when they find the chick and go looking for the guy, instead of finding his guts in a pile on the ground what they did was NOT show them but just arnies and the other dudes face.So you see this is the kinda shit were going to see in this movie if its pg 13.Im still waiting for the site to say so but if it turns out to be pg 13, well you can kiss these monsters good bye, sure they may make a sequel but it will be turned into this week asssuperhero flick that is made only to suit the faceless majoraty of younger people out there just to make an extra buck instead of staying true to the series wich is so wrong.  Like SENTINEL said both these movie monsters by themselves cause enough death and violence for an easy r rating, youd think putting both together in 1 movie would be a violence over load that no matter what would get the R sertificate, but its not l;ooking that way, f**k its looking like were going to have a avp saturday morning kids cartoon for facks sake.   >:D  .Well right know im expecting this movie to noe be what Ive waited 4 for 12 years of my life but instread a cheesy watered down version of itself that was only made to make a quick buck, now if IM wrong( i pray im wrong ) and this movie turns out to be what we;ve all been waiting for then good for us, but as it stands right now with all this PG 13 shit talk, this is going to be far from what we've all been waiting for.So lets kepp an open mind until we get the FINAL and 100% truth about the rating, but if we find out its realy pg 13 then we can realy start to worry and be mad.

Binger of death you make good comments. We have been bamboozled. The 2 greatest franchises of all time in sci-fi horror history have been bought together in a PG-13 brawl??????? This isn't a tea cup party this is alien vs predator people. The graphic violence,gore and mayhem went down the  drain. Now we have a PG-13 slap box brawl. Don't get me wrong the movie looks grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat and I love it. But PG-13 come on.

G-Dog, Jose and Variable ( and more no doubt) are ALL correct with a capital C - O - R - R - E - C -T!!!  the movie is what were watching not ratings but THE MOVIE !  To many movies get too over rated with ' R ' because of its meaning of what things will deliver,violence, swearing, gore content.  I just want this movie to succeed MOST importantly and to prove some SITES wrong ( namily the dumb - bitch - ass site AICN)

You guys are funny.  There will be a lot of gore and violence...ALIEN AND PREDATOR GORE and BLOOD!  Not that much human gore.