I liked the opening space scene chase and how the Ultimate Predator was communicating with its HQ. The subtitles were a nice touch. My absolute favorite part of the film is when the Ultimate Predator killed Fugitive (I can't stand traitors). It showed how terrifying and dangerous it really was!
I still have to watch it again but without a doubt for me I love Sterling K. Brown as Traeger. He just chews up the scenery for me and is a blast to watch.
I really liked the ships too. The Fugitive Escape. And a great deal of the battle with the Upgrade/Assasin was fun. That razor wire that lopped off those poor troops heads? Ouch!!
I liked THE PREDATOR only when it WAS a predator film in fleeting parts.
The opening PREDATOR ship dogfight in outerspace was spectacular and seeing a predator ship interior is always a nice touch. I personally like it, a trend started by ALIEN VS PREDATOR (I'm talking AVP aesthetic of hologram lazer wrist HUDs rather than the tribal fog of PREDATOR 2).
Was a real wow moment in the cinema with the volume up too loud.
The pre-mission banter and possibility of executed hostages falsely suggested an adult tone.
Seeing the first skinned corpse dangled in the woods gave me chills, not due to fright or disgust, but because I knew PREDATOR had returned to the big screen. I wondered what the fuss was about with a "trouble shoot".
The lead character accidentally activating predator tech to survive his first encounter with a predator. Was clumsy enough to suggets a fluke but was cool and plausible deniability why he didn't have to "do a Dutch" or get killed in his first encounter. That's why I hate PREDATOR-2 because that film the predator was running away from the protagonist. One "shameful sequel" style reviewer said it was because Danny Glovers character wasn't a worthy trophy and kept spoiling his hunt.
The impending threat of PREDATOR dogs (hear me out). Again a nice reuse of the concept from PREDATORS and I thought we might get a suspenseful scene and sense of perile and danger. But no it belly flopped and the dog immediately became comic relief pets and inventory containers (sorry this is a positivity thread).
Fugative PREDATOR breaking out of project stargazer and going ballastic. Amazing scene but peeved unarmed scientist were portrayed as being killed. Maybe a focus on non lethal force just because someone had a surgical instrument.
Cool the PREDATOR kind of understood how guns worked and not out of the realm of possibility considering predators use spearguns.
The takedown of upgrade predator in the jungle. Absolutely brutal exchange...............until the spaceship take-off. Then our cast had plot kryptonite where upgrade throws them around like annoying stepchildren rather than dispatching them in a millisecond like the mercenaries or the crazies.
AVP references. The Alexa Xenomorph Tailspear and the predator Shruken (most popularly recalled from AVP-R despite featured in AVP as well during the Queen Alien battle- pic from AVP 2004 below).
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20th Century Fox were dumb to go with the PREDATOR killer imo, rather than a mooted AVP tie-in to the point completely new AVP props were designed. Then again they weren't ready to suggest AVP and AVP-R were really worth burying the Ridley Scott Prometheus continuity despite so obviously wanting a MARVEL style universe.
But a spiritual association with Iron Man? Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!
The escape scene was nice. Fugitive starting with his bare hands, strapped down and still managed to break out.
Also while Fugitives armor was pretty generic sci-fi stuff, I liked that he wore nearly full body armor. It was not just a hunt after all.
Loved the Loonies. Not sure if they really fit into a Predator movie for me, but I liked them and their interaction.
Well, the first act despite being butchered was not 100% awful and was heading somewhere maybe interesting, so there is that.
The new space travel bit was cool. The build up at the start was decent. The Fugitive Pred was good in the lab. That's about it.
I dunno, there's things I don't like even about the parts I do like. :laugh: I just find it to be a double-edged sword in many ways.
The opening space battle, for instance, is great, but then he opens a rift to earth which feels a little too close to Star Trek for my liking.
The escape scene for sure, although I don't see the killing of unarmed scientist as dishonorable for the Fugitive as he is not on a hunt, he was imprisoned and the scientist were obstacles.
The blood dripping on fugitive's face, f**king great directing, great idea that a lot of people seem to conveniently forgot to downgrade the film. In the 80's, everyone would have yelled "masterpiece" after this scene. Very tribal and comic-bookish ! Upgrade's body language was cool, most of the loonies deaths were memorable. And obviously the overall irreverence of Shane Black's tone.
Getting to see the Upgrade communicate with the Fugitive and humans. Also the lab scene with the Fugitive and his escape.
Fugitive escape as many have pointed out. To add on I think it was good to see a Predator being resourceful in using it's mandibles and bare hands as weapons plus using an Assault Rifle when convenient.
Thought Olivia Munn was a bad casting choice but she handled her role really well.
Just finished it. There were only two things in the movie I liked.
1. Baxley pointing at the predator and saying "Alien".
2. Baxley descending into his c*ck tantrum when the predator is on top of the bus. It was wondrous.
Everything else sucked big time.
Quote from: ChanceVance on Dec 21, 2018, 02:16:35 AM
Fugitive escape as many have pointed out. To add on I think it was good to see a Predator being resourceful in using it's mandibles and bare hands as weapons plus using an Assault Rifle when convenient.
Yes, I agree! It was great to see both the Fugitive and the Assassin use their mandibles in attack. It's interesting because it's so simple, yet seemed so clever.
QuoteThought Olivia Munn was a bad casting choice but she handled her role really well.
Indeed. She definitely did a solid job.
The main pluses about the film were all the cast and characters. I thought they carried the movie. Really enjoyed the interactions and dialogue between the two. Absolutely hilarious.
Predator-wise, I love love loved the escape from the lab. It was great actually getting to see a Predator use one of our weapons. I think Brian & Kyle nailed it as the Fugitive. Also really dug Quantum's armour design. Loved the feudal look.
Brian Prince's performance.
The Loonies potential.
Sterling K Brown's performance.
Though his character is too over the top and cartoonish.
I like the escape scene and that scene where Predator is holding that guy in the air and motioning to the others to lower their weapons.
Trying to shoot the Predator after that was a stupid decision. He obviously tried to communicate something and wasn't going to kill the guy.
Quote from: overthere on Dec 22, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
I like the escape scene and that scene where Predator is holding that guy in the air and motioning to the others to lower their weapons.
Trying to shoot the Predator after that was a stupid decision. He obviously tried to communicate something and wasn't going to kill the guy.
It's hard to imagine, if I had those combat skills, what I would do in that situation (to be honest).
Quote from: overthere on Dec 22, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
I like the escape scene and that scene where Predator is holding that guy in the air and motioning to the others to lower their weapons.
Trying to shoot the Predator after that was a stupid decision. He obviously tried to communicate something and wasn't going to kill the guy.
I liked that scene with the Predator signaling them to lower their weapons too. I like it when Predators and Humans interact. It's a small detail, but it does a lot for me as a fan.
I loved Fugitive, he was pretty much everything I could have hoped for - fast, agile, expressive, intelligent, resourceful, realistic. The lab breakout scene was a joy to watch. Kudos to Brian Prince.
And while I feel the character of Casey could have been better used, I did enjoy her and liked the idea of a character who's been optimistically fascinated by the idea of extraterrestrial life finally coming face to face with one.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 22, 2018, 06:38:35 PM
I liked that scene with the Predator signaling them to lower their weapons too. I like it when Predators and Humans interact. It's a small detail, but it does a lot for me as a fan.
Same here, those tend to consistently be my favorite moments throughout the movies, comics, and books alike.
The Fugitive's design, him being captured, his escape and his kills. Space sequence was fine, Upgrade using the translator to taunt the humans.
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 19, 2018, 05:11:33 PM
My absolute favorite part of the film is when the Ultimate Predator killed Fugitive.
He kind of killed the movie as well when he did that. Quite the double kill.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 22, 2018, 06:38:35 PM
Quote from: overthere on Dec 22, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
I like the escape scene and that scene where Predator is holding that guy in the air and motioning to the others to lower their weapons.
Trying to shoot the Predator after that was a stupid decision. He obviously tried to communicate something and wasn't going to kill the guy.
I liked that scene with the Predator signaling them to lower their weapons too. I like it when Predators and Humans interact. It's a small detail, but it does a lot for me as a fan.
Me too. It kind of hones in on the fact that Predators do understand humans to some extent, besides basic emotions like fear, anger, etc.
The Fugitive on the whole, and his lab escape in particular, were great.
While I wasn't thrilled with the Upgrade's mega-huge design or all of his, well, "upgrades", the way he was used in the plot was neat.
Traeger blowing his own head off with the shoulder cannon was hilarious (I just wish it was edited better so you could see what happened better).
While the Predator Killer armor is a goofy concept, I'll give it points for looking pretty damn cool.
I actually really liked the Predator biting people and using his natural claws offensively. That was a neat touch.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 23, 2018, 06:08:22 AM
I actually really liked the Predator biting people and using his natural claws offensively. That was a neat touch.
I totally forgot about that, that stuff was great.
Absolutely wrecked a dude's face with his bare hands. One of a very few times a Predator has been seen using anything other than his weapons to inflict serious damage on a person.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 23, 2018, 06:08:22 AM
I actually really liked the Predator biting people and using his natural claws offensively. That was a neat touch.
What's funny is that sometime before the movie started filming, I made a thread wondering if fans wanted to see a Predator bite someone.
And now we have a such a scene.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 24, 2018, 05:20:40 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 23, 2018, 06:08:22 AM
I actually really liked the Predator biting people and using his natural claws offensively. That was a neat touch.
What's funny is that sometime before the movie started filming, I made a thread wondering if fans wanted to see a Predator bite someone.
And now we have a such a scene.
You can see the future!
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This is heavy!
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 23, 2018, 06:46:13 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 23, 2018, 06:08:22 AM
I actually really liked the Predator biting people and using his natural claws offensively. That was a neat touch.
I totally forgot about that, that stuff was great.
Yes! I loved the look Ultimate gave Traeger after it bit off the soldier's head! Creepy AF!
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Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 24, 2018, 10:10:50 AM
This is heavy!
There's that word "Heavy" again. Is there some problem with the earth's gravitational pull?
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 24, 2018, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 23, 2018, 06:46:13 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 23, 2018, 06:08:22 AM
I actually really liked the Predator biting people and using his natural claws offensively. That was a neat touch.
I totally forgot about that, that stuff was great.
Yes! I loved the look Ultimate gave Traeger after it bit off the soldier's head! Creepy AF!
https://media.giphy.com/media/3BZMbj5wp6vN2akFkV/giphy.gif
That was indeed Creepy AF. One of the only scary shots of the film.
He looks like a PS3 cut scene.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2018, 04:14:02 AM
He looks like a PS3 cut scene.
The CGI in this film was atrocious. Lee's Hulk from 2003 looks more realistic.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 25, 2018, 04:19:14 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2018, 04:14:02 AM
He looks like a PS3 cut scene.
The CGI in this film was atrocious. Lee's Hulk from 2003 looks more realistic.
Nah. In a few scenes including this one, yes, it did feel very unfinished, but the majority of the cg was fine.
Just rewatched it with my brother yesterday, there was not much to like.
- some jokes / scenes with the Loonies
- starship scene in the beginning
- some shots with Fugitive
...guess that's it.
I think 50% of the upgrade CG looks poor, 50% looks decent, but unfortunately it never looked great :'(
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 25, 2018, 01:59:03 PM
I think 50% of the upgrade CG looks poor, 50% looks decent, but unfortunately it never looked great :'(
I'd debate it's more 30% poor / 70% decent, but either way, I must say the ships in the beginning did achieve "great" in my opinion. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 25, 2018, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 25, 2018, 01:59:03 PM
I think 50% of the upgrade CG looks poor, 50% looks decent, but unfortunately it never looked great :'(
I'd debate it's more 30% poor / 70% decent, but either way, I must say the ships in the beginning did achieve "great" in my opinion. :)
I propose 40% poor / 60% decent, last offer :laugh:
The other CG effects are good i agree.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 25, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
I propose 40% poor / 60% decent, last offer :laugh:
Haha!
SOLD!!!! Now can I interest you in my not-too-bright cat?
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 25, 2018, 04:01:46 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 25, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
I propose 40% poor / 60% decent, last offer :laugh:
Haha! SOLD!!!!
Now can I interest you in my not-too-bright cat?
https://media1.giphy.com/media/AsmsqjbFgGiEU/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2252b1334b7a4d59d20d4b
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
It could be worse. My cat hides inside different pieces of furniture, then leaps out and attacks me whenever I sit down and relax. I feel like Inspector Clouseau being hunted by Kato every time I walk through the door.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 25, 2018, 07:30:22 PM
It could be worse. My cat hides inside different pieces of furniture, then leaps out and attacks me whenever I sit down and relax. I feel like Inspector Clouseau being hunted by Kato every time I walk through the door.
I can see it now. Poor Huggs all happy walking through his living room....
then BAM!(https://media2.giphy.com/media/o2Lwy4g7Dzptu/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c22de1f646341376b392ed2)
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 25, 2018, 07:30:22 PM
It could be worse. My cat hides inside different pieces of furniture, then leaps out and attacks me whenever I sit down and relax. I feel like Inspector Clouseau being hunted by Kato every time I walk through the door.
Such is the cat way.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 26, 2018, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 25, 2018, 07:30:22 PM
It could be worse. My cat hides inside different pieces of furniture, then leaps out and attacks me whenever I sit down and relax. I feel like Inspector Clouseau being hunted by Kato every time I walk through the door.
I can see it now. Poor Huggs all happy walking through his living room.... then BAM!
https://media2.giphy.com/media/o2Lwy4g7Dzptu/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c22de1f646341376b392ed2
I need to venture into
The Predator threads more often.
Whoa, lets not get hasty. You do that and you will never come back out the same. :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 28, 2018, 01:18:35 PM
Whoa, lets not get hasty. You do that and you will never come back out the same. :laugh:
If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
But can you break someone who's already broken?
Look, we've survived "Alien Resurrection" and the Newborn. We survived the AvPs and we survived David creating the Alien. I just know we have it in our power to do it again!
Now, take my hand, stare at this movie and at the 11 foot Upgrade Predator, and say, as one.. "We will not be afraid!"
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We did not survive David creating the Alien. Bastardized our franchise.
And the newborn. Jesus H Christ. ADI. Ask Giger for input next time.
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I have no rebuttal. :laugh:
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 28, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
I have no rebuttal. :laugh:
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Lol.
OK. "We will not be afraid."
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*in a sing-songy voice* Somebody doesn't think so . . .
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How I'd like to handle the writer who put in the line "Get to the choppers".
Jeezus.
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 28, 2018, 03:17:46 PM
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How I'd like to handle the writer who put in the line "Get to the choppers".
Jeezus.
Didn't they do the same thing in AvP:R?
But this one was so forced it was even more cringeworthy.
And he was referring to MOTORCYCLES.
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 28, 2018, 03:26:11 PM
But this one was so forced it was even more cringeworthy.
And he was referring to MOTORCYCLES.
I think nearly everyone in my theater sighed, facepalmed, or rolled their eyes. Several people walked out during the last act. We started with 20 and ended with about 12 or something close to that.
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Dec 28, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 28, 2018, 03:26:11 PM
But this one was so forced it was even more cringeworthy.
And he was referring to MOTORCYCLES.
I think nearly everyone in my theater sighed, facepalmed, or rolled their eyes. Several people walked out during the last act. We started with 20 and ended with about 12 or something close to that.
Does your theater offer refunds? I guess anything's possible, but approximately 40% of your audience walking out seems a wee-bit of an exaggeration. I've never witnessed anything like that and have bought tickets for plenty of worse films than "The Predator" (sadly)
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 28, 2018, 01:25:16 PM
But can you break someone who's already broken?
Yes, yes we can. ;D
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 28, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 28, 2018, 01:25:16 PM
But can you break someone who's already broken?
Yes, yes we can. ;D
Go ahead, I dare you. Find my buttons and press 'em!
My god, it's like that recent news about multiple "The Predator" endings has really uncapped all of the pent up rage in the community. 8)
I thought the movie was serviceable when I saw it but I am at a total loss of what I thought was good in it.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 05:13:40 AM
My god, it's like that recent news about multiple "The Predator" endings has really uncapped all of the pent up rage in the community. 8)
I like to think I was pretty open about it from the start. ;D
But indeed, the fur is flying over there.
There's more cussin' than a Tourette's benefit
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 28, 2018, 05:03:30 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 28, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 28, 2018, 01:25:16 PM
But can you break someone who's already broken?
Yes, yes we can. ;D
Go ahead, I dare you. Find my buttons and press 'em!
I'm blushing over here.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 05:56:50 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 05:13:40 AM
My god, it's like that recent news about multiple "The Predator" endings has really uncapped all of the pent up rage in the community. 8)
I like to think I was pretty open about it from the start. ;D
But indeed, the fur is flying over there.
There's more cussin' than a Tourette's benefit
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 28, 2018, 05:03:30 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 28, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 28, 2018, 01:25:16 PM
But can you break someone who's already broken?
Yes, yes we can. ;D
Go ahead, I dare you. Find my buttons and press 'em!
I'm blushing over here.
I wasn't even trying!
Oh, behave you guys :P
Found another thing i liked about the movie : That we got Ironpred instead of time traveling Ellen Ripley as was apparently not only an option, but also filmed.
I hope that is a joke. :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 29, 2018, 12:24:25 PM
I hope that is a joke. :laugh:
What, me and Huggs? Or the movie?
What the Kurgan said about a time travelling Ripley.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 29, 2018, 12:28:06 PM
What the Kurgan said about a time travelling Ripley.
Oh boy. I hate to tell you this :
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/12/29/alternate-ending-of-the-predator-was-filmed-featuring-ripley/
.....
......Please insert gifs of anyone, darth vader, luke skywalker ect shouting no!
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Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 29, 2018, 12:37:36 PM
.....
......Please insert gifs of anyone, darth vader, luke skywalker ect shouting no!
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Like I said on the other thread, creative ideas just ain't commonplace anymore.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 28, 2018, 01:43:05 PM
Look, we've survived "Alien Resurrection" and the Newborn. We survived the AvPs and we survived David creating the Alien. I just know we have it in our power to do it again!
They can't kill what is already dead.
What is dead may never die.
Quote from: The Kurgan on Dec 29, 2018, 12:17:50 PM
Found another thing i liked about the movie : That we got Ironpred instead of time traveling Ellen Ripley
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The fugitives rage.
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This is the thread about the good things, right?
Or did one of you throw that out the window?
I liked the part when the fugitive woke up and started to dislike the movie again when he died.
I quite liked when the Fugitive is escaping the Stargazer complex, and Casey is after him, and suddenly the Assassin's ship roars overhead with two airforce jets behind. Both the Fugitive Predator and Casey stop, and Casey's wtf look, plus the music selections was just perfect.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 10:41:37 PM
I quite liked when the Fugitive is escaping the Stargazer complex, and Casey is after him, and suddenly the Assassin's ship roars overhead with two airforce jets behind. Both the Fugitive Predator and Casey stop, and Casey's wtf look, plus the music selections was just perfect.
Yup. That's the goods.
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 10:41:37 PM
I quite liked when the Fugitive is escaping the Stargazer complex, and Casey is after him, and suddenly the Assassin's ship roars overhead with two airforce jets behind. Both the Fugitive Predator and Casey stop, and Casey's wtf look, plus the music selections was just perfect.
Yup. That's the goods.
Yea that part was the good.
Nah, the best part was the ending. You know,
when the movie's just over and the suffering stops.
Yup
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I've never been so happy to see a main menu.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 30, 2018, 03:13:36 AM
Nah, the best part was the ending. You know,
when the movie's just over and the suffering stops.
Huggsy, take that.
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Twinkies and fur paws. You're in combat mode tonight.
Come on guys. Focus of the good parts.
You push me, I attack foot
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Avp taught me the enema of my enema is my friend.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 04:33:30 AM
You push me, I attack foot
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Jonesy. The evil mastermind!!!
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Just like the pigeons in Predator 2!!!!!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 05:07:14 AM
Jonesy. The evil mastermind!!!
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Just like the pigeons in Predator 2!!!!!
Hey, over here.
Spoiler
It was the kid with the candy, the whole time.
and
Spoiler
The predator didn't kill him because childhood obesity was the next step in human evolution.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 30, 2018, 05:18:51 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 05:07:14 AM
Jonesy. The evil mastermind!!!
(https://www.dreadcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Jonsey-Weaver.jpg)
Just like the pigeons in Predator 2!!!!!
Hey, over here.
Spoiler
It was the kid with the candy, the whole time.
and
Spoiler
The predator didn't kill him because childhood obesity was the next step in human evolution.
*whiterabbit makes a big sigh
Damn that's good.
But i'm going to be honest, we're goofing off way too much and eventually somebody's going to notice. And no I'm not talking about Hicks. We should tone it down and stay on topic a little bit more professionally. I mean The Predator forum isn't the Star Wars
forum thread. This is a AVP fan site after all.
heh A Star Wars forum is the last thing this site needs. :P
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 06:21:42 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 30, 2018, 05:18:51 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 05:07:14 AM
Jonesy. The evil mastermind!!!
(https://www.dreadcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Jonsey-Weaver.jpg)
Just like the pigeons in Predator 2!!!!!
Hey, over here.
Spoiler
It was the kid with the candy, the whole time.
and
Spoiler
The predator didn't kill him because childhood obesity was the next step in human evolution.
*whiterabbit makes a big sigh
Damn that's good.
But i'm going to be honest, we're goofing off way too much and eventually somebody's going to notice. And no I'm not talking about Hicks. We should tone it down and stay on topic a little bit more professionally. I mean The Predator forum isn't the Star Wars forum thread. This is a AVP fan site after all.
heh A Star Wars forum is the last thing this site needs. :P
Voodoo, Huggs . . .
I'm gonna have to ask that you go to your rooms, or get back on topic.
Good bits:
- The lab scene
- Jake Busey as Keyes son
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 10:41:37 PM
I quite liked when the Fugitive is escaping the Stargazer complex, and Casey is after him, and suddenly the Assassin's ship roars overhead with two airforce jets behind. Both the Fugitive Predator and Casey stop, and Casey's wtf look, plus the music selections was just perfect.
Yup. That's the goods.
Indeed! It's fleeting, but almost has a War of the Worlds type vibe. I honestly wish the Assassin Predator did some flybys, firing at the Fugitive from his ship.
Nice to see the vocal mimicry return, albeit briefly. Id have liked to have seen Fugitive utilise that again somehow rather than the 'thumbs-up' scene.
*The jungle scene opening was a nice homage and worked well.
*The Loonies being a bunch of damaged ex-servicemen was a terrific idea. They were all more likeable and better-developed characters than anyone from Predators or both AVP films.
*The dog fight was something new and worked well.
*Treager was a compelling bad guy.
*All the stargazer base scenes and fugitive's subsequent escape
*Loved the scene with fugitive ontop of the minivan, the chase into the school and its a very cool shot where he appears behind Mckenna and slams him up against the wall.
*I could have done wihout upgrade pred, but his proper reveal at the school and pummeling of fugitive was well done.
*I enjoyed the shootout in the quarry with the crashed ship. Loved cloaked upgrade slamming that guy against the fence.
All in all it's a poor film and not the Predator sequel I wanted, but it is certainly fun to watch.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 30, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
Nice to see the vocal mimicry return, albeit briefly. Id have liked to have seen Fugitive utilise that again somehow rather than the 'thumbs-up' scene.
*The jungle scene opening was a nice homage and worked well.
*The Loonies being a bunch of damaged ex-servicemen was a terrific idea. They were all more likeable and better-developed characters than anyone from Predators or both AVP films.
*The dog fight was something new and worked well.
*Treager was a compelling bad guy.
*All the stargazer base scenes and fugitive's subsequent escape
*Loved the scene with fugitive ontop of the minivan, the chase into the school and its a very cool shot where he appears behind Mckenna and slams him up against the wall.
*I could have done wihout upgrade pred, but his proper reveal at the school and pummeling of fugitive was well done.
*I enjoyed the shootout in the quarry with the crashed ship. Loved cloaked upgrade slamming that guy against the fence.
All in all it's a poor film and not the Predator sequel I wanted, but it is certainly fun to watch.
This
Definitely the cast...best cast yet in a predator movie#thelooniez#traeger
Quote from: irn on Dec 30, 2018, 01:23:36 PM
- Jake Busey as Keyes son
Such a shame they didn't touch on this more. I realise only Predator fans would get the connection but they still could have written a much better role for him.
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 04, 2019, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: irn on Dec 30, 2018, 01:23:36 PM
- Jake Busey as Keyes son
Such a shame they didn't touch on this more. I realise only Predator fans would get the connection but they still could have written a much better role for him.
Agreed. Still, even in repeat viewings, seeing him always puts a smile on my face. :)
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 28, 2018, 03:17:46 PM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/mkdKvJHk9RFUA/giphy.gif?cid=4bf119fc5c263e133564496d51bdc2f7
How I'd like to handle the writer who put in the line "Get to the choppers".
Jeezus.
Thankfully there wasn't more. I did cringe like hell at the beautiful motherf**ker line but honestly, I was just really pleased there wasn't more reused dialogue.
The Predator must top the list when it comes to egregious fan service.
How so? Seemed to me to be a lot tamer than most sequels these days.
I agree, in fact I would go so far to say its anti fan service since it upturns everything we know and like about the predators.
One scene I did find funny, was when Quinn's estranged wife gave that speech about how good Quinn to encourage the loonies to go with her husband and out of her house. Only for Baxley to say that it sounds like he can look after himself before trying to watch tv. :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 18, 2019, 11:47:19 AM
One scene I did find funny, was when Quinn's estranged wife gave that speech about how good Quinn to encourage the loonies to go with her husband and out of her house. Only for Baxley to say that it sounds like he can look after himself before trying to watch tv. :laugh:
Yeah, that was funny. The whole Casey waking up in the hotel room scene and when the Fugitive grabbed a hand and gave the soldier driver a thumbs up, both made me laugh too.
At what point can we just blame toxic fandom and declare that this was actually a good movie?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 14, 2019, 11:12:32 PM
At what point can we just blame toxic fandom and declare that this was actually a good movie?
Fred already tried and failed. The world just wasn't ready for those kind of lies.
I wonder if Colin Strause ever called members here toxic when he was here. Is the toxic fandom also responsible for AVPR I wonder. Very toxic how members called it AVP Rectum for so long.
Did someone say toxic???
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/arCEGyBJg3t8k/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c6616ea5050793067fed83a)
Maybe it should be added to the banned word list. Let's refer to it as the t word from now.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 15, 2019, 01:34:51 AM
Did someone say toxic???
https://media3.giphy.com/media/arCEGyBJg3t8k/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c6616ea5050793067fed83a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZF3ILyUyNc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZF3ILyUyNc)
8)
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 15, 2019, 01:13:22 AM
I wonder if Colin Strause ever called members here toxic when he was here. Is the toxic fandom also responsible for AVPR I wonder. Very toxic how members called it AVP Rectum for so long.
No he didn't, cause that word wasn't flavour of the month. He did have a few barney's with Sil though.
He and SiL should get together for coffee and reminisce about those days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nq2nXBW_Pc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nq2nXBW_Pc)
The two can meet again on the next podcast.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 15, 2019, 03:15:31 AM
The two can meet again on the next podcast.
I would pay to see that.
Quote from: AhabPredator on Feb 15, 2019, 04:06:00 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 15, 2019, 03:15:31 AM
The two can meet again on the next podcast.
I would pay to see that.
After reading that thread, you couldn't pay me enough to see it or hear it. ;D
From memory I think Sil bust a nut over the Alien on top of the car with the kids in it. Fair point though. Even they cut it out.
Hang on, did you effect the edit Sil? I think you did.
Bust a nut implies I thought it was orgasmic ???
I had no influence on anything. I did rile them up enough to act like teenagers themselves.
Colin called obnoxious fans pricks, and looking back on those threads - yeah, I was a prick. I stand by the resentment I had, not the way I voiced it.
I'd love to connect to the AvPR guys again, apologise, and talk filmmaking.
I meant more like your nuts caved in when you saw that picture. That was the tipping point 😂
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2019, 11:53:52 AM
Bust a nut implies I thought it was orgasmic ???
I had no influence on anything. I did rile them up enough to act like teenagers themselves.
Colin called obnoxious fans pricks, and looking back on those threads - yeah, I was a prick. I stand by the resentment I had, not the way I voiced it.
I'd love to connect to the AvPR guys again, apologise, and talk filmmaking.
Actually, now I would listen.
Bravo SiL! Well said!
Some of the performances were okay, and I liked the intro with the blood dripping on to the invisible pred's face. The movie looked alright too. Other than that it was very mediocre. It's not AVP-R bad, but it's quite close.
Fugitive's eyes. I know this sounds like damning with faint praise, but I honestly loved the almost-but-not-quite yellow glow so much; it looked insanely badass while also subtly gesturing toward the luminescent green blood. Seriously, the scene where he's looking down at Olivia Munn and staring a hole in the camera? Holy shit. Chills.
That whole sequence had a ton of issues, but in that one moment, it really worked.
Agreed.
I watched the first 40 odd minutes on a plane (up to when Olivia Munn tries to leave the hotel room). Not seen the rest yet.
Was pretty fun so far. Not brilliant, but certainly entertaining.
The opening act up until the point where the fugitive was brutally killed off.
The Armour was bad ass!!!
Fugitive, Upgrade, Loonies, Traeger, father-son dynamic, predator-in-action scenes, ship designs, Upgrade's weaponry, final fight.
Watching the lab escape scene made me think that this movie should of been about a predator trying to collect all the predator tech left behind from previous movies, something similar to the game Predator: Concrete Jungle.
I liked the lab escape, I actually like the idea of the genetic pred but it's not done well, I think that's it for me really.
I liked its prequel novel.
Quote from: Naginata on Feb 16, 2019, 01:53:32 AM
Fugitive's eyes. I know this sounds like damning with faint praise, but I honestly loved the almost-but-not-quite yellow glow so much; it looked insanely badass while also subtly gesturing toward the luminescent green blood. Seriously, the scene where he's looking down at Olivia Munn and staring a hole in the camera? Holy shit. Chills.
That whole sequence had a ton of issues, but in that one moment, it really worked.
One of my favorite bits, I also loved that "oh shit!" look he had when he realized his gear was sitting in a tiny ooman's bedroom. ;D
I'm begining to think that i like The Predator especially for things that by majority considered as movie flaws. I mean all that crazy and unlogical stuff with DNA, authism, Earth invading, PredDogs, terrible editing, awful ending etc. I think that for me it's now as trashy fun ride as AVPR and i like it for that. This movie really shouldn't be taken serious to any degree.
P.S. I'm not agitating anyone to like The Predator. No, not anymore.
There's no way The Predator is on the same level of bad as AVPR. The Predator at least has a strong start with likeable characters and actors.
AVPR's only strength was the aesthetics of Wolf (as well as an interesting glimpse of a Predator planet).
Disregard characters, admire aesthetics.
~Psssst~Spoiler
You're supposed to say good things about The Predator in this thread!
The Predator fanedit aka damage control edition has less bad scenes.
You get a C for effort.
Quote from: PredBabe on Mar 19, 2019, 03:03:46 AM
There's no way The Predator is on the same level of bad as AVPR.
You're right, it's so much worse than avpr. ;D
Neither one is worse than AR.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 20, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Neither one is worse than AR.
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
Pure and utter mutilation of every positive aspect of its own franchise.
Are folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
Didn't we think the same about AVPR? Time will show.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
Are folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
As long as they didn't ended up in final product i suggest there's no problem with them.
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 20, 2019, 12:20:41 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
Didn't we think the same about AVPR? Time will show.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
Are folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
As long as they didn't ended up in final product i suggest there's no problem with them.
They were a clear demonstration of the lack of any coherent plan or thought with this...movie. Even resurrection didn't go looking to other franchises to save its own bacon. It had a direction. The Predator was just a glued together mess of bad ideas, and it left the factory without all its screws tightened. It was a Grade A fustercluck.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 20, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Neither one is worse than AR.
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
Pure and utter mutilation of every positive aspect of its own franchise.
Are folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
Fortunately I haven't seen it! ;D
But you have some valid points. Wasn't the Ripley/Newt scene also a last minute studio ideas?
Quote from: PredBabe on Mar 20, 2019, 01:04:13 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 20, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Neither one is worse than AR.
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
Pure and utter mutilation of every positive aspect of its own franchise.
Are folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
Fortunately I haven't seen it! ;D
But you have some valid points. Weren't the Ripley/Newt also last minute studio ideas?
They're probably still filming alternate endings. ;D
"No! We can still save it!"
Honestly it's those last minute ending ideas that hurt the movie the most. Seriously hope any future installment blows that Predator killer suit outta the god damn airlock.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
... you mean for the A/P films specifically, right?
Cos 20th Century Fox has made some awful f**king movies.
QuoteAre folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
Are we holding films accountable to deleted material now ... ?
In that case we should include all the deleted Dutch cameos.
Every Predator movie feels self-contained so they can easily discard The Predator and no one will even bat an eyelash. It's not like the general public is saying... what happened to Royce!? That's the beauty of the Predator franchise. No reoccurring characters, no reoccurring Predators, all barely tied together with the equivalent to easter eggs versus real story threads.
*Edit - Spelling
Quote from: SiL on Mar 20, 2019, 02:37:29 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
... you mean for the A/P films specifically, right?
Cos 20th Century Fox has made some awful f**king movies.
QuoteAre folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
Are we holding films accountable to deleted material now ... ?
Yeah, just the films.
And I put the endings forth as Exhibit B of the fact that they were totally lost, and narratively bankrupt.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 02:53:44 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 20, 2019, 02:37:29 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
The Predator is the worst entry in the entire fox library, and likely will remain so forever.
... you mean for the A/P films specifically, right?
Cos 20th Century Fox has made some awful f**king movies.
QuoteAre folks already forgetting the unused endings with Newt and Ripley?
Are we holding films accountable to deleted material now ... ?
Yeah, just the films.
And I put the endings forth as Exhibit B of the fact that they were totally lost, and narratively bankrupt.
Yet it's still a better movie than AVPR.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 20, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Neither one is worse than AR.
I'd rather watch AR than AvPR or TP.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 20, 2019, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 20, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Neither one is worse than AR.
I'd rather watch AR than AvPR or TP.
This. AR was my favorite of the series as a kid.
Still have more of a soft spot for it then it probably deserves ;D
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 20, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Neither one is worse than AR.
Indubitably. Now this smuggler knows his way around the universe!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 10:17:53 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 20, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Neither one is worse than AR.
Indubitably. Now this smuggler knows his way around the universe!
Is that why he always seems to be down on his luck ;D
I do give some crap to Alien Resurrection but I feel that it was trying to be somewhat similar to some of the wacky Alien comics that we've gotten, and some of the things they've done. I mean a talking Xenomorph? I think it was an android but I still can't say that it was a good thing. In that aspect of being a part of the stranger xenomorph universe I was ok with it and actually have a soft spot for it.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 02:40:48 AM
Every Predator movie feels self-contained so they can easily discard The Predator and no one will even bat an eyelash. It's not like the general public is saying... what happened to Royce!? That's the beauty of the Predator franchise. No reoccurring characters, no reoccurring Predators, all barely tied together with the equivalent to easter eggs versus real story threads.
*Edit - Spelling
What happened to Royce? :'(
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 02:40:48 AM
Every Predator movie feels self-contained so they can easily discard The Predator and no one will even bat an eyelash. It's not like the general public is saying... what happened to Royce!? That's the beauty of the Predator franchise. No reoccurring characters, no reoccurring Predators, all barely tied together with the equivalent to easter eggs versus real story threads.
*Edit - Spelling
What happened to Royce? :'(
Why, "sh!t" of course.
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 02:40:48 AM
Every Predator movie feels self-contained so they can easily discard The Predator and no one will even bat an eyelash. It's not like the general public is saying... what happened to Royce!? That's the beauty of the Predator franchise. No reoccurring characters, no reoccurring Predators, all barely tied together with the equivalent to easter eggs versus real story threads.
*Edit - Spelling
What happened to Royce? :'(
I know. We die hard fans want to still know... :'(
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 02:40:48 AM
Every Predator movie feels self-contained so they can easily discard The Predator and no one will even bat an eyelash. It's not like the general public is saying... what happened to Royce!? That's the beauty of the Predator franchise. No reoccurring characters, no reoccurring Predators, all barely tied together with the equivalent to easter eggs versus real story threads.
*Edit - Spelling
What happened to Royce? :'(
I know. We die hard fans want to still know... :'(
The next movie can retcon The Predator, and star Mark Rolston as an agent trying to uncover what happened to Royce, while a different Predator tries to stop him.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 02:40:48 AM
Every Predator movie feels self-contained so they can easily discard The Predator and no one will even bat an eyelash. It's not like the general public is saying... what happened to Royce!? That's the beauty of the Predator franchise. No reoccurring characters, no reoccurring Predators, all barely tied together with the equivalent to easter eggs versus real story threads.
*Edit - Spelling
What happened to Royce? :'(
I know. We die hard fans want to still know... :'(
Of course. I make a p2 reference and you gloss right over it. :laugh:
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2019, 02:40:48 AM
Every Predator movie feels self-contained so they can easily discard The Predator and no one will even bat an eyelash. It's not like the general public is saying... what happened to Royce!? That's the beauty of the Predator franchise. No reoccurring characters, no reoccurring Predators, all barely tied together with the equivalent to easter eggs versus real story threads.
*Edit - Spelling
What happened to Royce? :'(
Dude fought a Goro Predator.
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
What happened to Royce? :'(
What happened to Isabelle? :'(
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2019, 10:39:27 AM
Dude fought a Goro Predator.
Now that was a bad pointless comic.
Awful, awful comic.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 11:06:25 PM
Of course. I make a p2 reference and you gloss right over it. :laugh:
As in "Sh*t Happens"? Just a wee bit of a stretch, but okay. Good job Have a cookie.
(https://i.imgur.com/dTo3a.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 21, 2019, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 20, 2019, 11:06:25 PM
Of course. I make a p2 reference and you gloss right over it. :laugh:
As in "Sh*t Happens"? Just a wee bit of a stretch, but okay. Good job Have a cookie.
https://i.imgur.com/dTo3a.gif
It's OK. I didn't see it, either. :c
It's ok, Huggs, I caught the reference ;)
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 21, 2019, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
What happened to Royce? :'(
What happened to Isabelle? :'(
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2019, 10:39:27 AM
Dude fought a Goro Predator.
Now that was a bad pointless comic.
That will forever be a question of mine, to infinity :(
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 23, 2019, 02:07:40 AM
That will forever be a question of mine, to infinity :(
Leaving their fate open like that was a bad idea, I would have preferred if Classic had survived and escaped with Royce and Isabelle, then had a sequel with those 3, with Classic eventually developing a relationship with them like the one Ahab had with Galgo.
But no, they needed the trash the original creature to make the Berserker look good.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 23, 2019, 02:28:37 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 23, 2019, 02:07:40 AM
That will forever be a question of mine, to infinity :(
Leaving their fate open like that was a bad idea, I would have preferred if Classic had survived and escaped with Royce and Isabelle, then had a sequel with those 3, with Classic eventually developing a relationship with them like the one Ahab had with Galgo.
But no, they needed the trash the original creature to make the Berserker look good.
I think so too. Not that I believe Royce would have been a perfect substitute for Galgo, but he would have made a good predecessor. Would have also helped gauge audience interest in a future movie with the actual Ahab and Galgo. (You know, if a jump in the future were too unfamiliar for the public, at least having a recognizable "relationship" (if you want to call it that) between a main human and Predator would have helped transition between the different time periods.)
Guess he/the movie just didn't have enough backing or popularity to follow-up. Or something :-\
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 23, 2019, 03:00:56 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 23, 2019, 02:28:37 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 23, 2019, 02:07:40 AM
That will forever be a question of mine, to infinity :(
Leaving their fate open like that was a bad idea, I would have preferred if Classic had survived and escaped with Royce and Isabelle, then had a sequel with those 3, with Classic eventually developing a relationship with them like the one Ahab had with Galgo.
But no, they needed the trash the original creature to make the Berserker look good.
I think so too. Not that I believe Royce would have been a perfect substitute for Galgo, but he would have made a good predecessor. Would have also helped gauge audience interest in a future movie with the actual Ahab and Galgo. (You know, if a jump in the future were too unfamiliar for the public, at least having a recognizable "relationship" (if you want to call it that) between a main human and Predator would have helped transition between the different time periods.)
Guess he/the movie just didn't have enough backing or popularity to follow-up. Or something :-\
Yes.
10/10
Yes.
How can I make this happen?
Tell Fox you already have a suit ready for them. They don't need to pay for ADI this time.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 27, 2019, 02:29:28 AM
Tell Fox you already have a suit ready for them. They don't need to pay for ADI this time.
:laugh: Yes, indeed! Maybe I can write them a coherent story this time around...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/b/b2/The_Predator_%28film%2C_2018%29_promotional_poster.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/p9SZ6jKt4gDy8/giphy.gif)
Most of the bit between the crabator being strapped down and making it to the surface is pretty okay. But not all of it, and not anything either side of it.
I liked quite a bit of the film to be honest. It was mostly the bad editing (result of reshoots, methinks), weak final act (again, reshoots) and the terrible final scene (three for three) that dragged it down.
Would also have preferred it if it was made clearer that the DNA-harvesters represented a minority/splinter group in Predator society.
That was a mess, definitely. But a fun mess nonetheless !
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 04, 2019, 09:28:35 AM
I liked quite a bit of the film to be honest. It was mostly the bad editing (result of reshoots, methinks), weak final act (again, reshoots) and the terrible final scene (three for three) that dragged it down.
Would also have preferred it if it was made clearer that the DNA-harvesters represented a minority/splinter group in Predator society.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xQdtCbTyk6Sxq0/giphy.gif)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 04, 2019, 12:48:38 PM
That was a mess, definitely. But a fun mess nonetheless !
I could watch Sterling K. Brown play Traeger all day.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 04, 2019, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 04, 2019, 09:28:35 AM
I liked quite a bit of the film to be honest. It was mostly the bad editing (result of reshoots, methinks), weak final act (again, reshoots) and the terrible final scene (three for three) that dragged it down.
Would also have preferred it if it was made clearer that the DNA-harvesters represented a minority/splinter group in Predator society.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xQdtCbTyk6Sxq0/giphy.gif
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 04, 2019, 12:48:38 PM
That was a mess, definitely. But a fun mess nonetheless !
I could watch Sterling K. Brown play Traeger all day.
Agreed ! A few fun characters also, and he is one of them !
It felt like an episode of married with children where al(fugitive) is try to hide from peggy( the assassin upgraddde) :-*
Getting Jake Busey to play the son of the character his dad played in Predator 2 was pretty cool, though I wish the character had more to do in the movie.
Fugitive's escape scene was great. Him just taking a gun, spraying it indiscriminately down a hallway with one arm, and dropping it like trash afterwards is probably one of my favorite moments in the whole series to be honest. Fugitive in general was portrayed and executed very well I thought.
Uhh, I think I remember the Loonies having some good lines, though I can't remember any of the top of my head.
...Yeah that's all I got. There might be more stuff that I liked but I can't recall anything else through the miasma of "Maaaan, what is this bullshit" clouding my brain whenever I try to recall it. I should probably give it a re-watch to remember more clearly.
Jake was wasted. His character came across as weak, and his screen time was zilch.
I've still only seen the movie once. And I still don't feel like watching it again. Which only makes me treasure the first two films all the more.
I've seen it three times now. Guys, this may become another AvPR where the trashfire is so pure and terrible that I begin to enjoy it ironically.
Lord have mercy on my soul.
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 22, 2019, 12:49:51 AMJake was wasted. His character came across as weak, and his screen time was zilch.
^ This, especially given what a big deal they made out of his casting in the run up to release.
Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Apr 22, 2019, 07:27:00 AM
I've seen it three times now. Guys, this may become another AvPR where the trashfire is so pure and terrible that I begin to enjoy it ironically.
Lord have mercy on my soul.
Strange feeling, isn't it? :)
I think
it's already became another AVPR. Although, i find The Predator more ... fun, i suppose. AVPR is just dark and boring. The problem is can you or not enjoy such product. I personally can but i think it because i suspected what movie was gonna to be right after watching first trailer and I was OK with it. Also my father really liked the movie and his opinion influenced me. And i just can't hate anything A/P related because it requires too much of my physical and psychological strength and I think hatred is pretty exhausting feeling.
P.S. I DO NOT agitate anybody to like The Predator. No, no and no again.
I really loved the prequel novel!
Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 22, 2019, 08:37:04 PM
I really loved the prequel novel!
I did too; I really enjoyed how much was written from the perspective of the predator, we don't get that a lot.
As bad as bits of The Predator are, comparing it to Requiem still strikes me as ridiculous.
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Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 22, 2019, 08:37:04 PM
I really loved the prequel novel!
I did too; I really enjoyed how much was written from the perspective of the predator, we don't get that a lot.
Agreed. The prequel novel was really fun, especially compared to the finished film.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 23, 2019, 08:03:52 AM
As bad as bits of The Predator are, comparing it to Requiem still strikes me as ridiculous.
It's down there at the bottom for me currently.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 23, 2019, 08:35:15 AMIt's down there at the bottom for me currently.
Fair, but it still has far more merit than
Requiem. The breakout sequence alone was leagues better than all of
Requiem put together.
Yeah, that's very true. There's some real gold in it IMHO, but the package just fails me atm. I've really soured to it lately.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 23, 2019, 08:03:52 AM
As bad as bits of The Predator are, comparing it to Requiem still strikes me as ridiculous.
What can you do ? People are often unrealistic when it came to analize a movie seriously, often goes for fun and giggles with nonsensical comparison instead.
Are you all forgetting that it started with me making a favorable comparison of the two?
Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Apr 24, 2019, 12:00:47 AM
Are you all forgetting that it started with me making a favorable comparison of the two?
Wasn't thinking about you don't worry ;)
PredKiller ... No, seriously, can you imagine more suitable ending for such crazy messy movie? I think it fits movie perfectly (IMO). It's like cherry on the top of cake covered by ton of delicious cream. And it's at least not Ripley/ Newt ending.
Also i kinda like the design of the suit. Especially these big shoulder canons
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Really cannot agree with you there.
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 29, 2019, 06:01:28 AM
PredKiller ... No, seriously, can you imagine more suitable ending for such crazy messy movie? I think it fits movie perfectly (IMO). It's like cherry on the top of cake covered by ton of delicious cream. And it's at least not Ripley/ Newt ending.
Also i kinda like the design of the suit. Especially these big shoulder canons
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Unfortunately, I cannot agree you on this, either. I'm glad you liked it, though. That's what this thread is all about!
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 29, 2019, 06:01:28 AM
PredKiller ... No, seriously, can you imagine more suitable ending for such crazy messy movie? I think it fits movie perfectly (IMO). It's like cherry on the top of cake covered by ton of delicious cream. And it's at least not Ripley/ Newt ending.
Also i kinda like the design of the suit. Especially these big shoulder canons
(https://c.radikal.ru/c06/1811/68/b47d92008a49.png)
I think a redesign is necessary for it to show up again (but given the nature of the suit that shouldn't be a problem) but yeah I didn't think it was that out of place. The framing of the scene was weird but the Predator Killer itself I thought was fine. It's long established the Predator have gear that's ridiculously outfitted and so that's more than welcome in the franchise. Given that the monitors also show Upgrade in relation to the pod itself among everything else in the film, I'm more than willing to believe that it belonged to Upgrade.
The suit is a garbage design and a garbage concept.
Agreed. Please don't re-use that thing in future movies.
Wouldn't really be mad about Predators in power armour at some point, but man am I mad about that specific take on the idea.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 02, 2019, 08:20:20 PM
Wouldn't really be mad about Predators in power armour at some point, but man am I mad about that specific take on the idea.
Other than war, I don't see why a predator would need it.
Also, I'm really glad the pit bull lived.
Quote from: Master Chief on May 03, 2019, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 02, 2019, 08:20:20 PM
Wouldn't really be mad about Predators in power armour at some point, but man am I mad about that specific take on the idea.
Other than war, I don't see why a predator would need it.
Also, I'm really glad the pit bull lived.
Probably the one part of the movie I appreciated the most.
Quote from: Master Chief on May 03, 2019, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 02, 2019, 08:20:20 PM
Wouldn't really be mad about Predators in power armour at some point, but man am I mad about that specific take on the idea.
Other than war, I don't see why a predator would need it.
Also, I'm really glad the pit bull lived.
That's what I was thinking. Which I don't want to see in a movie anyway. Now, in an animated anthology series...
Saw it twice in theaters and enjoyed it both times. Bought it on blu ray, enjoyed it then. Watching it on HBO Now, still enjoying it! It does suffer from a leading man that is no Arnold or Danny. But the Loonies are funny and well cast. The action is varied with space ships, gun fights, Predator on Predator crime.
I know some don't like the amount of humor but I dig it. The original and P2 were quite funny on purpose in parts. Also liked how it took the Predator mythos in a different direction with the hybrid and global warming aspects.
I would love to see the original third act with APC and more Predators in the mix.
Still rank them Predator, 2, The Predator , Predators, AVP and Requiem.
Quote from: viendammage on May 06, 2019, 04:36:18 AM
Saw it twice in theaters and enjoyed it both times. Bought it on blu ray, enjoyed it then. Watching it on HBO Now, still enjoying it! It did does suffer from a leading man that is no Arnold or Danny.
To me, where Alien works best is when the human characters are normal, grounded regular men and women. But Predator works best when the humans are opposite of that, i.e. more exaggerated, larger than life, comic book like characters. Unfortunately, the powers that be do not seem to recognize this and the Predator franchise started going off track with Royce and most of his "team" in Predators, and then even further off the road with the Loonies in my opinion.
But as a Predator fan, I still can find some enjoyment watching it. :)
Quote from: viendammage on May 06, 2019, 04:36:18 AM
Saw it twice in theaters and enjoyed it both times. Bought it on blu ray, enjoyed it then. Watching it on HBO Now, still enjoying it!
YEAH!
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I rewatched it probably half a dozen times now and cannot help but enjoy it more and more every watching. I dig insanity of it.
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Quote from: viendammage on May 06, 2019, 04:36:18 AM
Saw it twice in theaters and enjoyed it both times. Bought it on blu ray, enjoyed it then. Watching it on HBO Now, still enjoying it!
YEAH!
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I rewatched it probably half a dozen times now and cannot help but enjoy it more and more every watching. I dig insanity of it.
Predator shake! Like Aquaman, I like the fact they went for it even if they didn't stick the landing. Watching it again I was really struck by the humor and gore. It's just an easy film to put on as it doesn't linger anywhere too long.
Would have loved to see Arnold come out as the Predator Killer but would have been a waste. Now time to write a small Predator story with Old Man Dutch coming face to face again w a creature.
I think the Loonies were great and a good concept. Despite the mess this film turned out to be, it is still a fun watch. I watched AVP again last night and my word the characters in that are so one dimensional and dull. Even with the silly dogs and the Pred killer ending, i still think The Predator is leagues ahead of either AVP effort.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on May 09, 2019, 08:23:22 PM
I think the Loonies were great and a good concept. Despite the mess this film turned out to be, it is still a fun watch. I watched AVP again last night and my word the characters in that are so one dimensional and dull. Even with the silly dogs and the Pred killer ending, i still think The Predator is leagues ahead of either AVP effort.
+10000
Quote from: TheBATMAN on May 09, 2019, 08:23:22 PM
I think the Loonies were great and a good concept. Despite the mess this film turned out to be, it is still a fun watch. I watched AVP again last night and my word the characters in that are so one dimensional and dull. Even with the silly dogs and the Pred killer ending, i still think The Predator is leagues ahead of either AVP effort.
I think without Loonies i would hate this movie so much but with them i can easily travel through the all insane shit that movie throws at me.
I don't like that they used autism for the concept, but more or less I like to think that the Predator takes "traist" from its prey, like tech or genetic material. That said, I like the potential behind the idea but not how it was executed.
The disc seemed to be reasonably well manufactured.
- Bryan Prince does a great job giving Fugitive personality and I sincerely hope he's brought back, he's great.
- I love the design of Fugitive and the Assassin. I'd really like to see that helmet reused somewhere.
- I appreciate a lot of the changes to the arsenal in particular that it limits potential issues should the Predator lose something and every movie they have a habit of dropping shit. Fugitive's gauntlets essentially being identical enables him wrist blades, a computer, and gadgets even upon losing the other. I also really like the implication of the tech being more advanced now with the plasmacaster fitting into the helmet. Just little changes like that really work. The Predator Killer does take things a bit too far but Fugitive and Assassin's gear and its storage I think work. Another thing which might be a bit of unintentional continuity but with the gun being placed in the helmet I like the implication that they realized having two or even a backup is a good call, and it minimizes chances of losing a gun like Wolf did if the Predator will normally be wearing the helmet.
- I like the idea of them taking genetic material. And it does hold up given we know that in Predator continuity they have Xenomorphs. So one would or should expect them to have some genetic knowledge in order to create new Xenomorphs to hunt. Taking the crossovers into account and the prequels noting they're a genetic experiment, Predators just came to the same conclusion. It totally works. We also see them in EU material utilize cybernetics so I don't see why the genetic experimentation would be out of the question.
Execution of the autism idea almost works. Autistic kids have this tendency to be hyper focused on a subject and with Rory figuring out how to use the gear at such a young age, I can see why the Assassin might be interested in dissecting him. They also take genetic material through heads anyways so you'd never know the full version of what they're doing unless we looked so you can preserve past stories since we wouldn't know what they did with it but it's a hunt regardless. The execution doesn't work but this concept almost does. Cut the autism/evolution line from Oliva Munn and replace it with maybe a scene of the Assassin scanning material or the Assassin noting how weird it is for Rory to simply be able to work the tech and call in to a lab to prep. Do something with that.
The Upgrade / Assassin concept and look.
The Fugitive look.
The Upgrade / Assassin confrontation with Fugutive >>> Berserker vs Captured. In terms of Pred on Pred action.
Sterling K Brown >>> Everyone in the franchise not named: Schwarzenegger, Glover, Busey, Paxton, Ventura, Goggins
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 02, 2021, 01:40:26 AM
The disc seemed to be reasonably well manufactured.
Spoiler
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Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 02, 2021, 01:41:58 AM
- I like the idea of them taking genetic material. And it does hold up given we know that in Predator continuity they have Xenomorphs. So one would or should expect them to have some genetic knowledge in order to create new Xenomorphs to hunt. Taking the crossovers into account and the prequels noting they're a genetic experiment, Predators just came to the same conclusion. It totally works. We also see them in EU material utilize cybernetics so I don't see why the genetic experimentation would be out of the question.
I actually like that possibility. Predators looking for a challenge when it comes to hunting Aliens. So they engineer new and deadly breeds.
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 02, 2021, 03:19:37 AM
The Upgrade / Assassin concept and look.
I would have preferred more practical effects but I like the Upgrade Pred design.
Big Chungus
Upgtade Predator and new weaponry he had
Fugitive
The Loonies
Some bits of a score were nice re-doings of Silvestri's classic. Rest of the score while not great was decent enough
Opening sequence
Lab sequence
Final fight with Upgrade
As stupid as it was I like lobotomised PredDog. It was cute
Coyle and Baxley double mercy shooting
The bloody face reveal of fugitive
The upgrade's aggressivity
Fugitive's armor
The credits were well put together.🤣 I really love The Predator so for me I enjoyed the humour, the action sequences, fugitive's design, the cast. Liked how they tried to go for a marvel style film.
*eyes full of tears*
Thank you
I'll add the upgrade's harpoon weapon thing, although it's a bit underused.
I don't like using word "badass" - but that thing was badass
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 02, 2021, 03:56:30 PM
I'll add the upgrade's harpoon weapon thing, although it's a bit underused.
Agreed
The flying buzz-saws and pred-grenades were cool.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 02, 2021, 10:18:04 AM
Big Chungus
Also this. I'm kinda partial to the big guys design, just not the lore around it.
The introduction of Royce was pretty good, but it didn't make it to the movie.(He sets a target of fire and lket him burn to the ground, and it's seen from pov similar to the ones the predators got, to confuse the audience.)
The trap with Cuchillo's cadaver was kinda creepy, I liked it.
Wrong movie, pal :D
Although there was a lot to dislike there were some legitimate merits:
1. Spaceships travelling vast distances by creating and using wormholes.
2. New pred gear like plasmacaster inside of the helmet. Also new info on how the cloaking works. Spaceship barrier forcefield was cool too.
3. Fugitive was a very good new and unique predator design and the actor did a great job with his body motions. It wasn't just jungle hunter with a new helmet and slightly differeht clothes. Also his interaction with the humans was something that we really have not seen before. He fired a warning shot at the car and with his hands he motioned for the humans to put their guns down. That kind of interaction was fresh even though it was small.
4. The stargazer lab scene was really good. Also bringing in Jake Busey was a neat connection to predator 2.
When it ends
Quote from: shadowedge on Feb 10, 2021, 06:36:47 PM
Also new info on how the cloaking works
By being a metal ball that turns you invisible on command when swallowed? It's ridiculous. Let's forget that one.
Well, he swallowed it 'cause cops were on his trail not 'cause it looked like a candy, you know
The worst part was when it needed to come out actually :laugh:
In order of importance:
1. The Cast. Special shout outs to the absolute waste of Boyd Holbrook and Sterling K. Brown, but also Thomas Jane, Keegan-Michael Key and others.
2. Fugitive's design (ADI face not withstanding) and also Brian A Prince's performance.
3. Upgrade's harpoon.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 10, 2021, 07:18:09 PM
Well, he swallowed it 'cause cops were on his trail not 'cause it looked like a candy, you know
If only he had a way to disappear....
;D
OHMYGOD, you're so f**king right ! Now, I love it even more !
Sterling K Brown should've been the protagonist. Cery engaging. Concept of Assassin and some of his weaponry was straight up bad ass. As was that scene where brutally impales the military guy repeatedly and ferociously. Guy who played Fugitive was good, as was his design.
The fugitive was pretty decent. The thumbs up he gave with the severed arm was great. Squirrel hunters have given middle fingers with squirrel paws lol. So it was relevant to hunting culture somewhat lol.
I really liked the prequel novel, that probably counts as well.
But the novelization of the movie was horrid.
That it did not pick the most idiotic option amongst it's ending scene possibilities.
You probably mean Ripley/Newt cameo's ? I agree.
I still maintain that the opening in Mexico and the lab breakout scene are comfortably the best bits of Predator action we've had since Predator 2. The moment when the Predator's face is revealed by the blood pouring down onto it was incredible.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 15, 2021, 12:17:36 PM
I still maintain that the opening in Mexico and the lab breakout scene are comfortably the best bits of Predator action we've had since Predator 2. The moment when the Predator's face is revealed by the blood pouring down onto it was incredible.
I mostly agree, except for two tiny things.
1 - The CG effect of the face reveal was really meh. But the idea is marvelous. Better idea than everything we got in all AVP/AVPR/Predators ;D
2 - The lab breakout is one helluva fun scene, but the predator complexion stand out so much in this mostly white immaculate environment, that it highlights the fact that this is a guy in a suit. The pred was never created to be in another environment than the jungle initially, that's why it's a bit of a visual problem for me.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 15, 2021, 12:32:48 PM
1 - The CG effect of the face reveal was really meh. But the idea is marvelous. Better idea than everything we got in all AVP/AVPR/Predators ;D
Yeah, for me, I didn't find the actual sequence particularly incredible, but I did and still do like what they were going for!