Started by Corporal Hicks, Apr 28, 2017, 11:27:29 PM
Quote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 06:47:43 PMQuote from: cucuchu on May 05, 2017, 06:09:34 PMQuote from: Ragonk_Force on May 05, 2017, 05:46:45 PMQuote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 02:19:03 PMThis is what I think possibly bothered HuDa and Hicks that contradicts the original film:SpoilerWhen the alien is born, it won't be the classic chestburster but a bambi-burster.[close]Is that really a problem though? Its a different incarnation of the creature. It will probably take certain variables to match the big chap as we know itExactly. I see no problem with it being different if its not even suppose to be the traditional Xeno. How we arrive at the Xeno from the 1979 Xeno is one of the many stories Sir Ridley seems to be trying to tell with not just this movie but the next one...or two...or three....One one level it can be viewed as a creative decision to do it differently but then we also have the removal of an iconic feature in the alien life cycle, which could end up being left unexplained. Alien3 did have both with the runner and the queen, though.Should be interesting to find out what Ridley says about all this during the interview soon!
Quote from: cucuchu on May 05, 2017, 06:09:34 PMQuote from: Ragonk_Force on May 05, 2017, 05:46:45 PMQuote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 02:19:03 PMThis is what I think possibly bothered HuDa and Hicks that contradicts the original film:SpoilerWhen the alien is born, it won't be the classic chestburster but a bambi-burster.[close]Is that really a problem though? Its a different incarnation of the creature. It will probably take certain variables to match the big chap as we know itExactly. I see no problem with it being different if its not even suppose to be the traditional Xeno. How we arrive at the Xeno from the 1979 Xeno is one of the many stories Sir Ridley seems to be trying to tell with not just this movie but the next one...or two...or three....
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on May 05, 2017, 05:46:45 PMQuote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 02:19:03 PMThis is what I think possibly bothered HuDa and Hicks that contradicts the original film:SpoilerWhen the alien is born, it won't be the classic chestburster but a bambi-burster.[close]Is that really a problem though? Its a different incarnation of the creature. It will probably take certain variables to match the big chap as we know it
Quote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 02:19:03 PMThis is what I think possibly bothered HuDa and Hicks that contradicts the original film:SpoilerWhen the alien is born, it won't be the classic chestburster but a bambi-burster.[close]
Quote from: Stanley on May 05, 2017, 06:52:42 PMQuote from: 900SL on May 05, 2017, 06:40:33 PMQuote from: Robopadna on May 05, 2017, 06:31:15 PMI hope we eventually figure out why the multiple star maps left on earth all pointed to a barren planet being used for bio weapon development/testing.But I don't think anyone but me is interested in that I think they were a warning. It ties in with the myth of Prometheus, protecting mankind. But if it WAS a warning, why indicate just the military style outpost and not the Home Planet?
Quote from: 900SL on May 05, 2017, 06:40:33 PMQuote from: Robopadna on May 05, 2017, 06:31:15 PMI hope we eventually figure out why the multiple star maps left on earth all pointed to a barren planet being used for bio weapon development/testing.But I don't think anyone but me is interested in that I think they were a warning. It ties in with the myth of Prometheus, protecting mankind.
Quote from: Robopadna on May 05, 2017, 06:31:15 PMI hope we eventually figure out why the multiple star maps left on earth all pointed to a barren planet being used for bio weapon development/testing.But I don't think anyone but me is interested in that
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on May 05, 2017, 06:53:22 PMQuote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 06:47:43 PMQuote from: cucuchu on May 05, 2017, 06:09:34 PMQuote from: Ragonk_Force on May 05, 2017, 05:46:45 PMQuote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 02:19:03 PMThis is what I think possibly bothered HuDa and Hicks that contradicts the original film:SpoilerWhen the alien is born, it won't be the classic chestburster but a bambi-burster.[close]Is that really a problem though? Its a different incarnation of the creature. It will probably take certain variables to match the big chap as we know itExactly. I see no problem with it being different if its not even suppose to be the traditional Xeno. How we arrive at the Xeno from the 1979 Xeno is one of the many stories Sir Ridley seems to be trying to tell with not just this movie but the next one...or two...or three....One one level it can be viewed as a creative decision to do it differently but then we also have the removal of an iconic feature in the alien life cycle, which could end up being left unexplained. Alien3 did have both with the runner and the queen, though.Should be interesting to find out what Ridley says about all this during the interview soon!There has to be some variable that makes the creature born in a different stage of its life. In alien 3, the runner is born as a bambi burster, and when the queen busts out of ripley, its a more traditional chestbursterYou can theorize that a bambi burster is simply ready to be born. A traditional worm like chestburster is pre-mature and is born out of necessity, like about to fall in a lava pit, or go into stasis for an extended period
Quote from: MajorB on May 05, 2017, 07:07:18 PMSpoilerThe Deacon at the end of Prometheus comes out almost adult, so not only does a bambi-burster have precedence but it shows that we are getting much closer to the traditional chestburster in these prequels.[close]
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 05, 2017, 07:09:41 PMQuote from: MajorB on May 05, 2017, 07:07:18 PMSpoilerThe Deacon at the end of Prometheus comes out almost adult, so not only does a bambi-burster have precedence but it shows that we are getting much closer to the traditional chestburster in these prequels.[close]The Deacon is a different creature, but like with the ox, I think it just couldn't break out of the Engineer until it was strong enough.
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 05, 2017, 07:01:49 PMQuote from: Ragonk_Force on May 05, 2017, 06:53:22 PMQuote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 06:47:43 PMQuote from: cucuchu on May 05, 2017, 06:09:34 PMQuote from: Ragonk_Force on May 05, 2017, 05:46:45 PMQuote from: Predaker on May 05, 2017, 02:19:03 PMThis is what I think possibly bothered HuDa and Hicks that contradicts the original film:SpoilerWhen the alien is born, it won't be the classic chestburster but a bambi-burster.[close]Is that really a problem though? Its a different incarnation of the creature. It will probably take certain variables to match the big chap as we know itExactly. I see no problem with it being different if its not even suppose to be the traditional Xeno. How we arrive at the Xeno from the 1979 Xeno is one of the many stories Sir Ridley seems to be trying to tell with not just this movie but the next one...or two...or three....One one level it can be viewed as a creative decision to do it differently but then we also have the removal of an iconic feature in the alien life cycle, which could end up being left unexplained. Alien3 did have both with the runner and the queen, though.Should be interesting to find out what Ridley says about all this during the interview soon!There has to be some variable that makes the creature born in a different stage of its life. In alien 3, the runner is born as a bambi burster, and when the queen busts out of ripley, its a more traditional chestbursterYou can theorize that a bambi burster is simply ready to be born. A traditional worm like chestburster is pre-mature and is born out of necessity, like about to fall in a lava pit, or go into stasis for an extended periodI have had that theory too, interestingly the reverse can be true as well, that the bambi burster was as developed as it was as it couldn't break out of the ox's chest when it should have, it would explain the ox's death too as it would have been killed from internal damage. Of course, I think theatrical cut is considered the canon version so it would be a dog it came out of.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on May 05, 2017, 09:24:46 PMShould I watch Alien one last time before my perceptions are changed forever after watching Covenant?