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Title: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: Nostromo on Sep 10, 2018, 03:19:12 AM
Where are they today?  ;D

Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SM on Sep 10, 2018, 03:32:52 AM
Busy doing VFX work I expect.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: Samhain13 on Sep 10, 2018, 03:35:53 AM
They seem to have move past trying to direct movies and are only into special effects now. If only Paul Anderson had given up as well...
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 13, 2018, 08:02:49 AM
Funnily enough I stayed behind to watch the credits for The Predator last night and I saw Hydraulix credited as working on effects for it. There was Colin's name as a VFX supervisor.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: Wweyland on Sep 13, 2018, 08:04:09 PM
The Predator ship interiors and hologram/UI graphics were quite AvP: R like.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 21, 2018, 08:34:34 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Sep 13, 2018, 08:04:09 PM
The Predator ship interiors and hologram/UI graphics were quite AvP: R like.
Which explains a lot. Didn't care for that at all.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 22, 2018, 10:09:29 AM
I don't know if they deserve the crap they get, yes they made a bad movie, two actually and they do seem to have preferences but originally they were going to try to do Requiem in space before that was shot down, they also had a reduced budget. And lets be honest, they didn't write the script (As far as I know). There might have also been some interference as well.
Although, I remember someone on set, either the brothers or someone else telling another crew member to "shut the f*** up" when they mentioned the lack of lighting.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Old One on Sep 22, 2018, 01:04:06 PM
There were just doing a job that they shouldn't have been IMO.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SiL on Oct 01, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Hydraulx has shut down two of its three studios. Only source I can find at the moment is this Reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/9k9q06/hydraulx_vfx_studio_shut_down/

Apparently the company was dodgy as hell to work for and nobody has a nice thing to say about it.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2018, 03:10:39 PM
And let us not forget the incredibly weird and creepy treatment of pregnant women in both of their feature films.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 01, 2018, 04:12:10 PM
So, Hydraulx shouldn't have been doing any jobs.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SM on Oct 01, 2018, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2018, 03:10:39 PM
And let us not forget the incredibly weird and creepy treatment of pregnant women in both of their feature films.

Been trying to...


Quote from: SiL on Oct 01, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Hydraulx has shut down two of its three studios. Only source I can find at the moment is this Reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/9k9q06/hydraulx_vfx_studio_shut_down/

Apparently the company was dodgy as hell to work for and nobody has a nice thing to say about it.

Crikey.  :o
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 02, 2018, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 01, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Hydraulx has shut down two of its three studios. Only source I can find at the moment is this Reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/9k9q06/hydraulx_vfx_studio_shut_down/

Apparently the company was dodgy as hell to work for and nobody has a nice thing to say about it.

I recall reading in a Golden Raspberries Award nominee that SKYLINE (2010) was up for a Razzie. They shamed Hydraulx for using non union CGI artists to create the $10 Million micro-budget SKYLINE film* (*Hydraulx way of showing off spectacle on a thrift budget).

Despite the controversy over working conditions; as a consumer I can definitely say I liked their work for VFX on many good titles.
TERMINATOR 3- RISE OF THE MACHINES, 300, The Avengers (Marvel film), X-Men the list is endless.
Oh and Aliens Vs Predator-Requiem and THE PREDATOR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulx

Considering Liam O Donnell did an AVP-GALAXY podcast to commemorate the 10 year anniversary of AVP-R while promoting his direct to Blu-Ray/DVD BEYOND SKYLINE it would be interesting to see why this VFX company went off a cliff.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SM on Oct 02, 2018, 08:33:54 PM
If even half of what these people are saying is true - mismanagement.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SiL on Oct 05, 2018, 10:02:05 AM
One comment about "the bad boys of VFX" was particularly interesting. Never heard that about them before.

EDIT

Jesus Christ

QuoteIf you know how to kiss ass, you will be the best employee there. If you are unhappy with your supervisor and you complain to your higher ups, nothing will happen because the said supervisor is best friends with one of the brothers. If you go complain about the forced overtime, you would be fired. If you don't agree to the micro management of your supervisor, you are done. Some supervisors in some departments hire only girls because they are easier to control.

QuoteAdding here one brother was worse than the other in terms of berating. Quite a few leads also took pleasure in this and much yelling.

QuoteThe supervisors were all but outright telling me the place was a shithole as I was sitting there.

...

"sometimes we leave at 6, sometimes we're not sure when we'll leave"

No direct deposit, only hard checks.

They asked me what I heard about the owners. When I spouted some biographical shit I knew about them they stopped me and asked what I really heard about them, and proceeded to explain how difficult they were.

All single monitors, and they still used mental ray. Not a huge thing in its own right, but spoke to their cheapness and that they didn't want to invest in technology.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 05, 2018, 11:31:27 AM
... not surprised. Are any of you?
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 05, 2018, 01:21:28 PM
A new perspective on this causes AVPR to be even worse, and I didn't know that was possible.

Because now I know these guys are truly worthless.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 05, 2018, 08:50:07 PM
Yea watching the behind the scenes did show them in that light.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SM on Oct 05, 2018, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 05, 2018, 11:31:27 AM
... not surprised. Are any of you?

Not knowing the ins and outs of the effects industry - yeah I kinda am.

It's a lot more shady than I would've thought.  I get it's show business and people often get rooted around - but not paying staff is more than that.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SiL on Oct 06, 2018, 01:06:09 AM
I'm not surprised to hear a VFX studio was run poorly, but their particular brand of mismanagement is hardly normal.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: proto leech on Oct 06, 2018, 05:50:27 AM
gotta go

BACK TO THE ROOTS
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SiL on Oct 06, 2018, 06:12:24 AM
So HARDCORE you'll go IMPOTENT, or your money back.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SM on Oct 06, 2018, 07:43:36 AM
Here fo' th' GRITTY.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Cruentus on Oct 06, 2018, 08:06:57 AM
Weren't they on here at one point? I remember someone on here saying that got angry with some of the fans here.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: SM on Oct 06, 2018, 08:09:17 AM
One of them is on this very page as it happens... ;D
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 06, 2018, 12:26:28 PM
Hey I actually dig AVPr but we all have alibi's on this page.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 06, 2018, 12:51:42 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Oct 06, 2018, 08:06:57 AM
Weren't they on here at one point? I remember someone on here saying that got angry with some of the fans here.

Colin had an account... well he still have, he just haven't used in 10 years. You never saw those Colin vs Sil debates?
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Cruentus on Oct 06, 2018, 09:24:49 PM
I can't remember, I don't think so. Was it bad?
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 06, 2018, 11:41:10 PM
Not with Sil if I remember. You can still see the posts on the AVPR speculation archive. Here is Colin: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=257.

I wish Colin would have listened more to the people here, the movie would have a better reception if he had changed even a few things while there was still time.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 07, 2018, 01:46:55 AM
I signed up in 2011... oh boy I must have missed some great stuff during those avp years.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 07, 2018, 03:12:42 AM
I was actually looking at top posters the other day and more than half are banned, so definitely missed something.

Whether it was pleasant or not is another story.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 07, 2018, 06:56:07 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 06, 2018, 11:41:10 PM
Not with Sil if I remember. You can still see the posts on the AVPR speculation archive. Here is Colin: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=257.

I wish Colin would have listened more to the people here, the movie would have a better reception if he had changed even a few things while there was still time.

His writing style is more single sentence tweets and shut-downs than actually engaging with AVP-GALAXY posters there.

I skimmed and yes it is true movie making is way harder than people realize. Do a community College (USA) or Level 3 course in Media and Video Production to see how tedious and meticulous it can be. This gets lost when you have one idea but your staff on set have others.

As I keep saying just watch "the making of ALIEN 3" (the 2003 DVD) to see what a clusterf**k movie making can be.

It just seems to dog the ALIEN series more than any other movie franchise. Quite frustrating really.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 07, 2018, 07:19:50 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Oct 07, 2018, 03:12:42 AM
I was actually looking at top posters the other day and more than half are banned, so definitely missed something.

Whether it was pleasant or not is another story.
I think there were several attempted good old fashion coops that were squashed to death through nuclear means. The last one and only one I witnessed was more of a whimper. A few casualties and I'm pretty sure one death. It's not even funny how many depressed folks we have here.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 07, 2018, 07:25:35 AM
Sometimes "coops" can be an appropriate response, depending upon the circumstances.

But I doubt anyone here did anything really to warrant it, as sexism, racism and the-like clearly aren't tolerated on AVPG.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 07, 2018, 07:30:47 AM
The one I saw wasn't anything like that and it was explained to me, just because you talk a lot dosen't mean you get to dictate policy on the site. In the end several other sites were born. Pretty boring actually.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 07, 2018, 07:36:16 AM
Explained to you by who?

The people who did the banning? Not to say they're wrong, but that's a biased narrative.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 07, 2018, 11:17:48 AM
Actually from the side that got banned. :P Then in 3rd person by the other side; as in reading it on the forum. For some reason I do save the rants, if possible. It's amazing how people get overzealous about things as silly as make believe entertainment.

Then again that's probably why I can like something like AVPr, while others will get ill over it.
Title: Re: Any word on the Strause bros?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 07, 2018, 11:48:45 PM
I can't tolerate "AVPR" so, I understand.