PREDATORS vs PREY

Started by solace97, Aug 31, 2024, 07:22:13 PM

What's the better film?

PREDATORS
5 (18.5%)
PREY
22 (81.5%)

Total Members Voted: 27

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solace97

solace97

personally I always loved PREDATORS despite all the flaws it has.

I enjoyed the storyline and the expansion of the predators lore. Aside from the super predators faces I liked their helmets and gear.

I loved the soundtrack how it was this metal guitar theme of the original.

Really enjoyed the classic Predators fight at the end. As well as falconers one on one fight with the Japanese guy. I still think the way some of the predators were killed could have been done better.

And I've always wondered what happened once Isabella and Royce looked up at the incoming parachutes and what group of predators was arriving that had dropped them.

With that being said I did have issues with the movie. Parts of it felt a little slow and too fan film like. Some of the characters I didn't really think needed to be there.

As for PREY I think it has some of the better cinematography in the series.

Between the snake, wolf, bear, Indian attack, field chase, fur trap scenes , I think those will always stand out as some of the more visually appealing and just perfectly executed predator hunting scenes we have ever got.

My only complaints was it felt a little drawn out (?) at some point, I would have to rewatch it because I can't remember when it hit me, but I just kind of lost interest until the pace picked back up. That's honestly why I've only watched it twice and that was back when it released. If there was a version of all the action scenes I'd be all in, but it does feel like a chore to me for some reason to watch it until it picks up. It just doesn't have the same tension or space filling during those lulls as the other films. Probably just a me thing since a lot of people like it.

And the only two things I really didn't enjoy was ferals face and the last fight sequence. I didn't like seeing the ninja warrior approach because I doubt actual native Americans would risk jumping from a tree like that, especially knowing if they broke their ankles they were as good as dead back then. It doesn't mean they don't know how to wield an axe and standard hunting equipment (probably some technical skills in hand to hand combat I'd imagine) but all the fighting movements and it didn't really seem like there was much damage taken (whereas Arnold and the others are absolutely wrecked by the end of their encounters) just didn't make me buy into it. If that las fight was rewritten or executed differently I think I'd have enjoyed the film more.

It was kind of like when I was watching Romulus and then Rain just absolutely mowed down 10 aliens and their bodies disappeared, it just didn't look cool to me and kind of takes away from the creature they're up against.

Nightmare Asylum

Nightmare Asylum

#1
Prey, significantly.

I don't hate Predators, it's a great concept with a (mostly) solid enough first half, but it fizzles out so much in its back half and never fully realizes the ideas that it has baked under the surface.

Prey's got a pretty rocking core idea, and the execution to match.

solace97

solace97

#2
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 31, 2024, 07:37:42 PMPrey, significantly.

I don't hate Predators, it's a great concept with a (mostly) solid enough first half, but it fizzles out so much in its back half and never fully realizes the ideas that it has baked under the surface.

Prey's got a pretty rocking core idea, and the execution to match.
lol even though I'd argue the significantly part because I didnt enjoy it as much as you, I do agree it does have a solid story and is visually more appealing then Predators. I really can't praise PREY enough for how well some of those shots are done. But I personally think the execution is lacking in some areas that makes it difficult for me to watch, PREDATORS too for that matter, but I guess it's just the way it unfolds that I don't mind it too much.

I think the story of PREDATORS is where my fascination lies. Just so much extra lore to dive into. The new race of Predators, a hunting reserve planet, the hounds, the different creatures.

CANNON

CANNON

#3
Yeah I'm a diehard fan of the original Predator film. I mean for me everything about it is a masterpiece.

What I felt with Predators was an attempt to one up the original with new features I.e. dogs, team hunters but more specifically with the new 'super' predators (which I dread). Also again my opinion - RR is an overrated director, especially when he steps into a project with an established lore. He's not a great story teller and his style is very him -not in a good way. Now I do want to say, for the people who enjoyed it, I'm happy you do.

Prey, does a great job of capturing a lot of what made Predator an icon of a movie that is still loved after 36 years. Unfortunately for me prey also falls victim to the same mistakes most Predator iterations do, by changing Predator. In prey's case changing the design so drastically that it becomes a distraction. The face design is imo an extreme change, a far cry from the original Winston design that unfortunately I cannot help but feel removed from the film. Also the ending was a little much, I would have liked to see more work and thought put into it rather than a quick fist fight.

Outside of that, as I've mentioned I feel Prey felt most like a Predator movie and was entertaining overall. So again in my opinion - I go with Prey over Predators.

solace97

solace97

#4
I agree.

Personally I felt like the hounds were a cool addition on this predator hunting reserve planet. It just shows that the predators have all these different tactics that they don't necessarily use on earth. I don't mind the "super predators" but I'd rather them have the OG facial design. I would rather them just be another clan of more advanced predators rather than looking completely different. But as far as body structure and gear I thought they were okay. I guess the film just has some fun bits about it for me

Nightmare Asylum

Nightmare Asylum

#5
Hounds were a cool idea (and good design!) that, like most else, amount to essentially nothing in the movie.

I quite like the look of the new Predators in the film as well (though I think their heads should be about 5-10% smaller). Great look, great gear, lovely masks... I don't even hate Mr. Black's face. But I couldn't tell you literally anything about how they differentiate personality/hunting style wise from one another, let alone from any other Predator in the franchise. And we never even get to see them hunt as a "pack" together, they just kind of stand around and wait their turn to die off one by one.

SiL

SiL

#6
I feel they're about equal for different reasons.

PAS

PAS

#7
Predators put the franchise on ice for 7 years(and then The Predator did it for 4 years)

Prey kickstarted it into full gear again, I think it's easy to say which one is better

CANNON

CANNON

#8
Quote from: PAS on Sep 01, 2024, 12:43:05 AMPredators put the franchise on ice for 7 years(and then The Predator did it for 4 years)

Prey kickstarted it into full gear again, I think it's easy to say which one is better

Perfectly put.

XenoVC

XenoVC

#9
Predators is a movie that has surprisingly jumped up points with revisiting a lot for me, to the point I don't actually remember liking it to the level I do now upon release.

Yeah it was very borrowed from Predator a decade plus before Romulus would borrow from its original, but that was also its appeal. Requiem had us thinking we were in for a LONG break either way, but Robert Rodriguez and his pull at the time with his studio pushed it hard to get through, and filming only 2 years after that.

Remixing the jungle setting but away from Earth always got high marks and Adrien Brody is straight up underrated in it. Plus it's Super Predators don't nearly go into the realm of the next movie's Super nonsense.

I didn't think I liked Predators more than Prey but realized I do. It's a bit more filling of a total experience but I have like for both approaches.

solace97

solace97

#10
It's a miracle they got to release it as soon as they did after AVPR now that you mentioned that. I totally forgot the sour taste in everyone's mouths after AVPR was the most recent release

Acid_Reign161

Acid_Reign161

#11
No competition here, 'Prey' wins by a long way... 'Predators' in terms of quality is on par with 'AvP', and was (imho) a lame attempt to replicate what 'Aliens' did; add an 's' to the title, more Predators, but rehash all the same beats of the first movie... Aliens did that successfully, but I found Predators was very cringy, to the point I relegate it along with 'The Predator' - in my own personal head canon there is only Predator, Predator 2 and Prey.

BigDaddyJohn

BigDaddyJohn

#12
Prey.

PAS

PAS

#13
Predators does the ultimate movie sin of having a bigger badder version of the old poster child show up and one up the old one

Wweyland

Wweyland

#14
Predators didn't really try anything new, but Prey did.

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