Just wanted to say a quick thanks for the cheers this got... It would've been fun! Didn't expect a thread about it but figured I'd address the unsurprising...
Quote from: S.E.B. on Dec 29, 2022, 10:14:24 PMI always loved the design of the Queen but quite hated (and still hate) the concept of the Queen, so this "one-off" really jives with me. Even so, the Queen has become such a major aspect of the Alien universe, so by writing it off like that, great bodies of work would be written off as well, which in a way would be kind of shitty, to say the least. Only Ridley Scott could get away with something like that.
Other than that I do like Tristan's idea on how to wrap it all up.
Cheers! For clarification -- I'm not writing it off. I'm reimagining its origin and evolution. Doesn't change the queen. Or any other queen. I just wasn't planning on using anything but the films and Isolation as canon.
Quote from: Still Collating... on Dec 28, 2022, 11:33:05 AMI love his art, but some of the ideas are too far out there. Having the Queen be a mistake, a one time thing and making every other piece of material non canon would be horrible. The Queen is awesome and can be used in horrific ways if done right. I'm glad this didn't get made, his art is awesome but his distaste for anything Aliens puts me off.
Queen would still exist, and in my eyes made more horrifying. But again, you're basing everything off dot points in a tweet. I love Aliens. Just nowhere near as much as other films in the series. My problem with Aliens has always been logical inconsistencies and de-alienating the alien. It's still a fun movie with cool shit in it, but people act like it's infallible.
Quote from: MaineXeno on Dec 22, 2022, 06:20:32 PMSo basically he was trying to create a comic continuation of the prequels? Damn it Disney/Marvel. I think I would have liked going on with life not knowing he wanted to do that lol. Honestly my only two complaints of it is the queen just being a mutant and Amanda still being around by then. I like the idea of trying to make things more like Alien and not Aliens but I think the queen still works with it
Sort of, but not quite. I wanted to find a way of readdressing the continuity as a whole. Aliens changed Alien (for better or worse), Alien 3 did the same, Resurrection did the same, the prequels went a whole length further. My idea was to essentially reconcile all of those ideas my own way and show you that through Amanda, who I think is the best twist to the series yet.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 31, 2022, 11:32:47 PMI'm glad this never happened. I really don't get the point of stepping into an established IP and shitting on half of it because it's not to your tastes.
Well, that's because you didn't read it TO get it, because I wasn't shitting on anything, actually. There's a SLEW of stuff in there that directly plugs into Aliens and Alien 3, but that doesn't matter because it never happened and you can continue being glad. Re-presenting ONE idea from ONE out of 6 films to make it line up more with an actual half of them is barely there mathematically speaking, too, but again... didn't happen.
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 01, 2023, 03:00:30 AMI absolutely love the ideas presented here in the summary- it wasn't all that long ago I suggested something very similar in these forums (or was it on the Reddit?) about the queen being a one-off which then became the norm in its own lineage onwards (Alien 3 /Resurrection) but was not a 'thing' before Hadley's Hope. I like the Xenomorph being unpredictable, the big chap form being a result of ovomorph from eggmorphed space jockey + human host for example. The idea of the superfacehugger aberration in Alien 3... if we look at the xeno as chaotic and unpredictable as the pathogen, it's becomes so much more interesting..but with each new 'form' or 'evolution' (depending upon circumstances of its creation) able to continue that lineage so you can still have (for example) the classic 'Aliens' life cycle continue, or a totally different cycle continue from another source etc... I'm disappointed we didn't get this.
That's kind of it -- the Hadley's Hope nest ultimately becomes a whole other thing. That's a whole new strain of animal right there. Just like how David's Alien is a whole new strain, and the Deacon, the neomorphs, etc. but there's a core. Even the Dog Alien is likely creating a new strain. There's a thing all of this has splintered off from. The pathogen is kind of key to it. Or at least A strain of it is.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 01, 2023, 05:22:10 AM"Chaotic and unpredictable" is shorthand for "can do whatever we want whenever we want", and is usually awful, lazy writing.
The alien is anything but chaotic and unpredictable, but reducing it to an insect is also lazy writing.