PrometheusNews.net has obtained what they say is an updated official credit list direct from FOX. Naturally, it's a very long list so I've only included the link here, but it contains some very interesting spoiler confirmation reguarding the Engineers:
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/credits-list/ (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/credits-list/)
Credited to Viscal of PrometheusNews.net
Theme from Alien eh? I would've rather they leave the film alone and created their own singular sound. Those songs included are a bit off putting.
the original theme from Alien by Jerry Goldsmith is included in the score. Yessss
QuotePRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR,
OP. 28 NO. 15
Written by Frédéric Chopin
THEME FROM ALIEN
Written by Jerry Goldsmith
SCHERZO – TARENTELLE IN G MINOR, OP. 16
Written by Henryk Wieniawski
,,O COME ALL YE FAITHFULL
Traditional
LOVE THE ONE YOUR WITH
Written by Stephen Stills
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gV9gUeFHIw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gV9gUeFHIw#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWgepGEZU8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWgepGEZU8#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiqcjFQBukM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiqcjFQBukM#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbZppVna1Q# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbZppVna1Q#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3ruuml-R4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3ruuml-R4#ws)
Very interesting, especially one song choice in particular...
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confirming that at least some of this movie is set at Christmas as there is a Carol in there! Somewhere mentioned there was a scene with Janek decorating a makeshift Christmas tree
And IMHO, that'll make it great for my Christmas movie marathon right along side Die Hard. :D
Amazing now we know the entire cast.
There is like three Engineers.
If you count the rotten dead one 4.
Like the sarcophagis.
;)
I'm thinking that Ghost Engineer is part of the hologram account we've only seen a tiny bit from. Sacrifice Engineer could be part of the prologue. The Last Engineer is the one they will deal with - he's the lone survivor we heard about just recently from Riddles I think...
so shaw's father is in it? that reminds me of a certain terrible plot synopsis
Were lucky to know the entire list of characters in Prometheus because of the leaked credits :).
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Tree...hugger?
Quote from: YOU DO MUTILATE? on May 01, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
so shaw's father is in it? that reminds me of a certain terrible plot synopsis
Don't worry :)
That shit is fake.
Shaw's father presence has been known for a while.
Scott gave yet another role to his botoxed wife/gf.
Silent one again?
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Sacrifice Engineer
Oooooh wonder what that entails then? ;D
Quote from: Despicable Dugong on May 01, 2012, 03:15:14 PM
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Sacrifice Engineer
Oooooh wonder what that entails then? ;D
Sounds like the "alien death cult" part might be true after all.
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Tree...hugger?
Pffft... you owe me a keyboard. :laugh:
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Tree...hugger?
Good one :D
Facehugger
Snakehugger
Treehugger
...
PS: I suddenly just noticed how that huge screen in Vickers quarters, is a direct homage to the scene in Aliens with Ripley learning about her daughters fate
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So there are direct nods to Aliens in Prometheus - nice :)
Ahhhh. Nice catch there, Eva!
Some people on this forum are seriously in need of hugs, they see them everywhere ;D
Interesting credits. ;)
QuoteSo there are direct nods to Aliens in Prometheus - nice
Indeed, I think fans will be pleased by that.
The scene with David playing basketball is clearly a nod to Resurrection... which makes me wonder...
Anyone have any idea what a nod to Alien3 could be? I can't think of anything definitive from what we've seen sofar...
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 03:58:51 PM
The scene with David playing basketball is clearly a nod to Resurrection... which makes me wonder...
Anyone have any idea what a nod to Alien3 could be? I can't think of anything definitive from what we've seen sofar...
The guys helmet melting over his face reminded me of the alien being doused in molten metal in ALIEN 3, the helmet melting even looks like melted metal. ;D
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 03:58:51 PM
The scene with David playing basketball is clearly a nod to Resurrection... which makes me wonder...
Anyone have any idea what a nod to Alien3 could be? I can't think of anything definitive from what we've seen sofar...
There is a scene of David playing basketball? Which trailer?
the nod to alien 3 is giger being dicked around by the production designer
Quote from: YOU DO MUTILATE? on May 01, 2012, 04:09:14 PM
the nod to alien 3 is giger being dicked around by the production designer
Eh... At least this time he wasn't trolled after hours and hours of conceptual and sculptural work. :)
Heh, I see Ridley's got Giannina Facio playing Shaw's mother. Man can never resist, can he?
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Quote from: Prime113 on May 01, 2012, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 03:58:51 PM
The scene with David playing basketball is clearly a nod to Resurrection... which makes me wonder...
Anyone have any idea what a nod to Alien3 could be? I can't think of anything definitive from what we've seen sofar...
There is a scene of David playing basketball? Which trailer?
Not a trailer - the recently released new featurette
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-oJ4XHIH9s#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-oJ4XHIH9s#ws)
Would be neat to see David do a reverse slam dunk while riding a Harley and dressed in black leather. :D
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Ghost Engineer
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Sacrifice Jockey could be the one running, looking terrified in the hologram scenes. Something about the running body language to me shows whatever is about to happen to it, it doesn't really want.
Well, there's this between Alien3 and Prometheus, but it might be a stretch
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PS: I found another old still with David and what we now know is a baskeball, probably wandering the ship alone while the crew are in the freezers. There's probably a montage with him wandering about the ship, mirroring similar establishing montages in Alien and Aliens DC.
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David wandering the ship is a nod to an early Aliens draft where Bishop was supposed to be wandering the Sulaco while everyone else was in cryo sleep.
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
PS: I found another old still with David and what we now know is a baskeball, probably wandering the ship alone while the crew are in the freezers. There's probably a montage with him wandering about the ship, mirroring similar establishing montages in Alien and Aliens DC.
Indeed. Also similar to Cameron's idea of introducing Bishop wandering endlessly through the Sulaco before he opted for the knife scene.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 01, 2012, 03:16:05 PM
Quote from: Despicable Dugong on May 01, 2012, 03:15:14 PM
Spoiler
Sacrifice Engineer
Oooooh wonder what that entails then? ;D
Sounds like the "alien death cult" part might be true after all.
Or it could be
Spoiler
the Engineer that transports the ship with the eggs and lands on LV-426. That would surely be a sacrifice
It's nice to see familiar faces in the crack alley Bad Replicant. :-X
Ooohh. Spoiler credits huh?
Ehh. Nothing too crazy. Just incidentals and confirmations of past info. Nothing mind blowing.
Funny how the words SPOILER don't deter me anymore. When I see WARNING!! HUGE PLOT SPOILERS! HUGE REVELATIONS! LOOKS AT OWN RISK!! Then I may give pause ... bite by finger ... try to rip my modem out of the wall and go live in the mountains until June.
Quote from: Stannis Baratheon on May 01, 2012, 07:02:55 PM
Or it could be
Eh, but we pretty much know there won't be a direct connection like that.
The crew of the Prometheus comes out of cryosleep on December 21, 2091 according to the subtitle in the film giving the information on the Prometheus and its crew and its distance from Earth.
Quote from: Barringer on May 01, 2012, 09:28:26 PM
The crew of the Prometheus comes out of cryosleep on December 21, 2091 according to the subtitle in the film giving the information on the Prometheus and its crew and its distance from Earth.
I'm guessing this isn't set 30 years before ALIEN then. ALIENS is set in 2150 something (can't remember the exact date) and Ripley had been in hypersleep for 57 years meaning that ALIEN is set around 2100.
Quote from: Mastes1 on May 01, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: Barringer on May 01, 2012, 09:28:26 PM
The crew of the Prometheus comes out of cryosleep on December 21, 2091 according to the subtitle in the film giving the information on the Prometheus and its crew and its distance from Earth.
I'm guessing this isn't set 30 years before ALIEN then. ALIENS is set in 2150 something (can't remember the exact date) and Ripley had been in hypersleep for 57 years meaning that ALIEN is set around 2100.
Alien is set in 2122 and Aliens is set in 2179. This movie is precisely 30 years before Alien.
Quote from: Barringer on May 01, 2012, 09:39:39 PM
Quote from: Mastes1 on May 01, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: Barringer on May 01, 2012, 09:28:26 PM
The crew of the Prometheus comes out of cryosleep on December 21, 2091 according to the subtitle in the film giving the information on the Prometheus and its crew and its distance from Earth.
I'm guessing this isn't set 30 years before ALIEN then. ALIENS is set in 2150 something (can't remember the exact date) and Ripley had been in hypersleep for 57 years meaning that ALIEN is set around 2100.
Alien is set in 2122 and Aliens is set in 2179. This movie is precisely 30 years before Alien.
Cani i ask where you got those dates from (the 2179 one does sound familiar). I ask because Cameron said he set AVATAR in the smae year as ALIENS as a little eatser egg for the fans, kind of making out that the films are in the same universe, anyway the year on the AVATAR cameras that Jake speaks into are 2150 something (2153 i think).
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 01, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
Theme from Alien eh? I would've rather they leave the film alone and created their own singular sound. Those songs included are a bit off putting.
I think I heard the Alien score during one of the recent trailers.
Ridley Scott's mentioned how highly he regards Jerry Goldsmith's score. It's an important element of the picture, establishing the tone as it does. I'm sure it's appropriate to include at least a snippet in honor of the late composer. My guess is it'll be integrated into the film's original score and during scenes that directly recall the original film.
Shouldn't be distracting either, or seem telegraphed or incongruous, since none of Alien's themes are as obvious as say, The Imperial March or The Fellowship Theme. Most people probably won't recognize it.
Quote from: Mastes1 on May 01, 2012, 09:54:36 PM
Quote from: Barringer on May 01, 2012, 09:39:39 PM
Quote from: Mastes1 on May 01, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: Barringer on May 01, 2012, 09:28:26 PM
The crew of the Prometheus comes out of cryosleep on December 21, 2091 according to the subtitle in the film giving the information on the Prometheus and its crew and its distance from Earth.
I'm guessing this isn't set 30 years before ALIEN then. ALIENS is set in 2150 something (can't remember the exact date) and Ripley had been in hypersleep for 57 years meaning that ALIEN is set around 2100.
Alien is set in 2122 and Aliens is set in 2179. This movie is precisely 30 years before Alien.
Cani i ask where you got those dates from (the 2179 one does sound familiar). I ask because Cameron said he set AVATAR in the smae year as ALIENS as a little eatser egg for the fans, kind of making out that the films are in the same universe, anyway the year on the AVATAR cameras that Jake speaks into are 2150 something (2153 i think).
I believe the dates are derived from Aliens, specifically Ripley's line: "I just checked the colony log, directive dated 6/12/79, signed Burke, Carter J." I'm guessing that the year Alien is set is backward derived from that, hence 2122. That Prometheus is said to be set 30 years before Alien, and is definitively stated to be 2092, further corroborates that.
I could be mistaken though and the 2122 date is derived from Alien, either its script or novelization and Cameron got his dates from that, but I don't know.
Eva, you are brilliant! I always remembered that old basketball still from Comic-con but never put things together after seeing the new featurette!
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He...he slimed me.
Quote from: Barringer on May 01, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
I believe the dates are derived from Aliens, specifically Ripley's line: "I just checked the colony log, directive dated 6/12/79, signed Burke, Carter J." I'm guessing that the year Alien is set is backward derived from that, hence 2122. That Prometheus is said to be set 30 years before Alien, and is definitively stated to be 2092, further corroborates that.
I could be mistaken though and the 2122 date is derived from Alien, either its script or novelization and Cameron got his dates from that, but I don't know.
The dates were written down by Ron Cobb et al when designing the patches for ALIEN. Ridley Scott also wrote down bios for the characters that included their entire histories. The Alien 20th anniversary includes crew profiles as a bonus. Alien is indeed roughly 2121/2122 and Aliens 2179.
Alien starts on June 3 2122.[/utl]
Not a great Wednesday. (http://time.absoluteavp.com/time1.html)
As an Aussie, I say we make June 3rd a public holiday. Poor bastards.
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Well, three engineers, I figured as much. Though it sounds like two of them won't have much screen time.
This is going to be a very good film.
WOW... That credits list has me thinking that despite all the trailers, interviews, and reports, I still have no damn idea what this movie is about... The whole deal with the engineers and their names, the number of un-named mercenaries and mechanics, just threw me off completely...
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Sacrifice Engineer
WTF?! :o
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 02, 2012, 08:47:18 AM
WTF?! :o
"Uncivilized behavior" indeed. :)
I assume is connected to that Giger drawing about the life cycle?
If there is any reference to the Engineer ship eventually ending up on LV-426 for The Nostromo to stumble upon, I expect that scenario to be suggested in the hologram montage David is watching. The Sacrifice Engineer taking off in that ship to quarantine a very dangerous cargo on a remote, barren world and issuing a warning beacon as his last act.
A direct reference to the derelict as part of the ongoing plot in Prometheus, would imo be waaayyy to convoluted (and against anything Riddles and Damon has stated on the subject)
What's the betting the Alien theme plays over the end credits?
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
If there is any reference to the Engineer ship eventually ending up on LV-426 for The Nostromo to stumble upon, I expect that scenario to be suggested in the hologram montage David is watching. The Sacrifice Engineer taking off in that ship to quarantine a very dangerous cargo on a remote, barren world and issuing a warning beacon as his last act.
A direct reference to the derelict as part of the ongoing plot in Prometheus, would imo be waaayyy to convoluted (and against anything Riddles and Damon has stated on the subject)
and what If the eggs were already stored there in the Acheron moon?, there's still the possibility that the Derelict wasn't transporting the eggs, and that the chamber underneath the dead jockey was a cave were they had It in store.
I sincerely can't see how the Derelict can have such a huge underneath chamber bellow the pilots room. Also, we have to remember that the Derelict was parked..., so?, what the hell was that jockey doing there?, creating those eggs somehow?
Quote from: escroto on May 02, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
If there is any reference to the Engineer ship eventually ending up on LV-426 for The Nostromo to stumble upon, I expect that scenario to be suggested in the hologram montage David is watching. The Sacrifice Engineer taking off in that ship to quarantine a very dangerous cargo on a remote, barren world and issuing a warning beacon as his last act.
A direct reference to the derelict as part of the ongoing plot in Prometheus, would imo be waaayyy to convoluted (and against anything Riddles and Damon has stated on the subject)
and what If the eggs were already stored there in the Acheron moon?, there's still the possibility that the Derelict wasn't transporting the eggs, and that the chamber underneath the dead jockey was a cave were they had It in store.
I sincerely can't see how the Derelict can have such a huge underneath chamber bellow the pilots room. Also, we have to remember that the Derelict was parked..., so?, what the hell was that jockey doing there?, creating those eggs somehow?
As Eva said, its possible that the sacrafise engineer after being infected flew to an isolated planet and then parked the ship before being killed by the chest burster. The chest burster then grew and eventually laid the eggs before dying itself.
Quote from: escroto on May 02, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
If there is any reference to the Engineer ship eventually ending up on LV-426 for The Nostromo to stumble upon, I expect that scenario to be suggested in the hologram montage David is watching. The Sacrifice Engineer taking off in that ship to quarantine a very dangerous cargo on a remote, barren world and issuing a warning beacon as his last act.
A direct reference to the derelict as part of the ongoing plot in Prometheus, would imo be waaayyy to convoluted (and against anything Riddles and Damon has stated on the subject)
and what If the eggs were already stored there in the Acheron moon?, there's still the possibility that the Derelict wasn't transporting the eggs, and that the chamber underneath the dead jockey was a cave were they had It in store.
I sincerely can't see how the Derelict can have such a huge underneath chamber bellow the pilots room. Also, we have to remember that the Derelict was parked..., so?, what the hell was that jockey doing there?, creating those eggs somehow?
I think that there was talks to say that there was a structure beneath the ship (much like there is a temple over the ship in Prometheus) but it was scrapped and ever since Scott always the derelict was a bomber and its cargo bioweapons.
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Quote from: escroto on May 02, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
If there is any reference to the Engineer ship eventually ending up on LV-426 for The Nostromo to stumble upon, I expect that scenario to be suggested in the hologram montage David is watching. The Sacrifice Engineer taking off in that ship to quarantine a very dangerous cargo on a remote, barren world and issuing a warning beacon as his last act.
A direct reference to the derelict as part of the ongoing plot in Prometheus, would imo be waaayyy to convoluted (and against anything Riddles and Damon has stated on the subject)
and what If the eggs were already stored there in the Acheron moon?, there's still the possibility that the Derelict wasn't transporting the eggs, and that the chamber underneath the dead jockey was a cave were they had It in store.
I sincerely can't see how the Derelict can have such a huge underneath chamber bellow the pilots room. Also, we have to remember that the Derelict was parked..., so?, what the hell was that jockey doing there?, creating those eggs somehow?
As Eva said, its possible that the sacrafise engineer after being infected flew to an isolated planet and then parked the ship before being killed by the chest burster. The chest burster then grew and eventually laid the eggs before dying itself.
That makes no sense. First because for now there are no eggs in lv-223 to get infected from, and second because If that engineer would have got infected right there in the temple, then I guess he should have had some aid from his mates and removed the alien inside. If this last not, then they could have very well killed the alien emerging from him, or just killing the engineer directly. Jockeys should have plenty of tools for doing such things.
I'm starting to think the jockey dead on the Acheron moon went rogue or something and fled with something belonging to the temple. No way he got infected while having his team mates at his side.
He arrived at the Acheron and then got infected there imo.
Still think the egg chamber was in fact a cave, and the now dead jockey was loading them onboard the Derelict.. Then something went wrong with the stasis fields in the cave and the mess started. I mean, If you pay attention to the image when Kane descends into the cave, then you can see how ALL the eggs in It are already opened and lying down on the floor but those of course under the last remaining stasis field. The jockey dude in the derelict had to deal with thousands of facehuggers I'd say, not just one.
Quote from: escroto on May 02, 2012, 01:11:24 PM
That makes no sense. First because for now there are no eggs in lv-223 to get infected from, and second because If that engineer would have got infected right there in the temple, then I guess he should have had some aid from his mates and removed the alien inside. If this last not, then they could have very well killed the alien emerging from him, or just killing the engineer directly. Jockeys should have plenty of tools for doing such things.
If I may, it's possible the Engineer in
Alien could have taken
all the eggs to LV-426 as a safey precaution. Hence why none exist on LV223.
However, I think "Sacrifice Engineer" is probably going to be unrelated to that in any manner. More then likely we're dealing with a test subject for an experiment that goes wrong. Likely seen by David in the flashback.
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 02, 2012, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 02, 2012, 08:47:18 AM
WTF?! :o
"Uncivilized behavior" indeed. :)
I assume is connected to that Giger drawing about the life cycle?
I spoilered this whole thing because it does talk about the main controversial point:
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I've been thinking about exactly that for the longest time - that the life cycle will surely be included (as Scott's vision doesn't veer off to far from Giger's drawings). That is to say, I am fairly sure that this life cycle will play a large part in the film. Nevertheless - it is difficult to completely understand Giger's work in that we don't know if this is a life cycle, like with a parasite, or if it is like a route to a final metamorphosis, wherein the final form is merely a weapon. What is more - the engineer being "sacrificed" shows no sign of anything popping out of its chest, plus we do not know where either the first or second eggs come from. Plus, what are we to make of the human-mech that outlines the top of the work? Does it infect or does it point to a perfect form? My personal opinion is that Ridley used this as a starting point for his ideas on creation and human origin, and morphed it perhaps somewhat, (or not at all) to suit what he believes the purpose of these engineers to be.
Quote from: Eva on May 02, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
If there is any reference to the Engineer ship eventually ending up on LV-426 for The Nostromo to stumble upon, I expect that scenario to be suggested in the hologram montage David is watching. The Sacrifice Engineer taking off in that ship to quarantine a very dangerous cargo on a remote, barren world and issuing a warning beacon as his last act.
A direct reference to the derelict as part of the ongoing plot in Prometheus, would imo be waaayyy to convoluted (and against anything Riddles and Damon has stated on the subject)
I think many people who have been following what exactly has been going on with the film would agree. It is quite obvious that this is impossible.
As Scott said, and I add, only "keen fans" will be able to spot the similarities between Prometheus and Alien. If the Juggernaut is in fact the Derelicht - then you don't need to be a keen fan to make the association. That, and we see the Juggernaut crash back down onto LV 223.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 01:38:23 PM
Quote from: escroto on May 02, 2012, 01:11:24 PM
That makes no sense. First because for now there are no eggs in lv-223 to get infected from, and second because If that engineer would have got infected right there in the temple, then I guess he should have had some aid from his mates and removed the alien inside. If this last not, then they could have very well killed the alien emerging from him, or just killing the engineer directly. Jockeys should have plenty of tools for doing such things.
If I may, it's possible the Engineer in Alien could have taken all the eggs to LV-426 as a safey precaution. Hence why none exist on LV223.
However, I think "Sacrifice Engineer" is probably going to be unrelated to that in any manner. More then likely we're dealing with a test subject for an experiment that goes wrong. Likely seen by David in the flashback.
The sacrifice engineer is I think that one we have seen many times in Alien. Therefore sacrifice. He sacrifices himself to protect cargo (alien eggs) for whoever wil find them. Maybe Aliens are that precious for Jockeys.
Quote from: psychonaut25 on May 02, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
The sacrifice engineer is I think that one we have seen many times in Alien. Therefore sacrifice. He sacrifices himself to protect cargo (alien eggs) for whoever wil find them. Maybe Aliens are that precious for Jockeys.
But as we've been told repeatedly, this movie will not directly connect to Alien.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on May 02, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
The sacrifice engineer is I think that one we have seen many times in Alien. Therefore sacrifice. He sacrifices himself to protect cargo (alien eggs) for whoever wil find them. Maybe Aliens are that precious for Jockeys.
But as we've been told repeatedly, this movie will not directly connect to Alien.
I know that :) !
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But, i think , what i have mentioned above is the Alien DNA that Scott is talking about in the last minutes of movie.
Quote from: robbritton on May 02, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
What's the betting the Alien theme plays over the end credits?
My thoughts precisely!
Quote from: robbritton on May 02, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
What's the betting the Alien theme plays over the end credits?
That would be awesome! :D