In Town With A Few Days To Kill, Predator 2 30th Anniversary Retrospective - AvP Galaxy Podcast #118

Started by Corporal Hicks, Nov 21, 2020, 05:30:32 PM

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In Town With A Few Days To Kill, Predator 2 30th Anniversary Retrospective - AvP Galaxy Podcast #118 (Read 10,450 times)

Corporal Hicks

We have just uploaded the 118th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Corporal Hicks, RidgeTop, Voodoo Magic and Xenomorphine reconvene for this retrospective episode on Predator 2 to discuss the film as it reaches the huge milestone 30th anniversary!

 In Town With A Few Days To Kill, Predator 2 30th Anniversary Retrospective - AvP Galaxy Podcast #118

We discuss the first time we ever saw Predator 2 and if our opinions have changed over the years, whether or not the film’s comedic nature works for it, how much Hicks hate the tan and mustard costuming, we try to tackle the dates around the Alien skull, and plenty more!

We discuss a couple of Predator 2 related that we’ve published on Alien vs. Predator Galaxy. You can find our article on the Lost Predator ship here, our look at how Predator: Concrete Jungle inspired Predator 2 here, and what happened to Anna’s cameo here.

At one point we also bring up the Predator-like film that Kevin Peter Hall did prior to Predator, but never circle back around to it for confirmation. It was indeed Without Warning.

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Local Trouble

Needs more F-bombs.  It just isn't the same without Hicks swearing like a prisoner in Alien 3.

Kradan

Kradan

#2
Almost 3 hours ? I wasn't planning to sleep tonight anyway


I always assumed that Jerry was father of Leona's child too

GreybackElder

Loved P2! I used to always catch it in pieces on TNT in the 90's when I was younger. In fact while growing up, I don't think I ever saw the whole film until I bought the VHS around 2000. Anyhoo,  I liked P2 and the city hunter more than P1 as a kid. The city hunter was just so entertaining. I loved the action sequences, especially the slaughterhouse scene. To echo what you gentlemen have said about the lost predators at the end. Wow! I loved it! Sooooo much lore was established in the last 10-15 minutes of the film it was mind boggling. It might be my favorite moment in the whole franchise to be honest. The elder is soo awesome. He just exudes age and wisdom and just shear bad assery. As a tangent Did you boys pick up the node to P2 in tim Lebbon ' rage war series?? I'm pretty sure the main elder pred in that series is greyback. Anyhoo, cheers and happy 30th P2!!!

ChigusaCorp

Outstanding podcast!  I really enjoyed listening.

As for the origin of the AVP concept, it is definitively the idea of Dark Horse Comics' Chris Warner.

Dark Horse first took the idea to Fox for approval and then set out to create the comics starting in late 1989 in Dark Horse Presents.   I will have to research to find when it was first publicly announced for certain, though I did find this solicitation copy from AMAZING HEROES #170 - published in August 1989.

https://i.imgur.com/pqhZjiB.jpg


Voodoo Magic

Quote from: ChigusaCorp on Nov 22, 2020, 01:16:21 AM
Outstanding podcast!  I really enjoyed listening.

As for the origin of the AVP concept, it is definitively the idea of Dark Horse Comics' Chris Warner.

Dark Horse first took the idea to Fox for approval and then set out to create the comics starting in late 1989 in Dark Horse Presents.   I will have to research to find when it was first publicly announced for certain, though I did find this solicitation copy from AMAZING HEROES #170 - published in August 1989.

https://i.imgur.com/pqhZjiB.jpg

Awesome share brother!

We also know some of Joel Silver's team and the actual Thomas Brothers had meetings with Dark Horse in the Summer? of 1989 with at least Mark Verheiden, so that's why there's a mystery! :)

Glaive

In Town With A Few Days To Kill, Predator 2 30th Anniversary Retrospective – Proudly brought to you by 'Starburst'?

aka The Poor-Mans 'Starlog'

Someone must have shares...

Voodoo Magic

Ha, no shares. Just trying to give credit to sources.

One of the Starburst Magazine writers happened to be old friends with Stephen, predating Hopkins rise in Hollywood. So Starburst got all the good Predator 2 scoops!

RidgeTop

Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 21, 2020, 06:47:24 PM
Needs more F-bombs.  It just isn't the same without Hicks swearing like a prisoner in Alien 3.

We love our swearing, but the YouTube algorithm was like:

"You know, you boys really ought to cut down."

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

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Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 21, 2020, 06:47:24 PM
Needs more F-bombs.  It just isn't the same without Hicks swearing like a prisoner in Alien 3.

I see what we're doing here. Counting a complaint with another complaint...hmmm...  :laugh:


Quote from: Kradan on Nov 21, 2020, 06:55:14 PM
Almost 3 hours ? I wasn't planning to sleep tonight anyway

:laugh: The audio one is about 20 minutes less. I'm still astonished that the pauses and uhhhmms and aaahhhhs consistently add up to about 20 minutes.  :laugh:

QuoteI always assumed that Jerry was father of Leona's child too

I just never get where that comes from. Is there some sexual tension I'm missing here?


Quote from: GreybackElder on Nov 22, 2020, 12:08:35 AM
To echo what you gentlemen have said about the lost predators at the end. Wow! I loved it! Sooooo much lore was established in the last 10-15 minutes of the film it was mind boggling. It might be my favorite moment in the whole franchise to be honest. The elder is soo awesome. He just exudes age and wisdom and just shear bad assery.

It really is one of the most important scenes in the franchise. So damn much implied in that one scene.

QuoteAs a tangent Did you boys pick up the node to P2 in tim Lebbon ' rage war series?? I'm pretty sure the main elder pred in that series is greyback. Anyhoo, cheers and happy 30th P2!!!

I know it's supposed to be in there, but I just can't remember it. I'm due a re-read of the entire trilogy when I can get to it.


Quote from: ChigusaCorp on Nov 22, 2020, 01:16:21 AM
Outstanding podcast!  I really enjoyed listening.

Glad you enjoyed.  :)

QuoteDark Horse first took the idea to Fox for approval and then set out to create the comics starting in late 1989 in Dark Horse Presents.   I will have to research to find when it was first publicly announced for certain, though I did find this solicitation copy from AMAZING HEROES #170 - published in August 1989.

https://i.imgur.com/pqhZjiB.jpg

It says 2 issue mini-series there. Wonder if that was a mistake or actual intention. Given the circumstances with Marvel and Dark Horse, I feel like now would be a bad a time to talk to try to talk to Warner or Stradley. Be worth remembering to go to them about the timeline of that development some more.


Quote from: Glaive on Nov 22, 2020, 07:01:12 PM
In Town With A Few Days To Kill, Predator 2 30th Anniversary Retrospective – Proudly brought to you by 'Starburst'?

Haha. We didn't have too many old interviews to go from during prep, but the Starburst one was a pretty good one. If Starbust would like to sponsor the show...

Are they even still around?

Kradan

Kradan

#10
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2020, 10:17:47 AM
QuoteI always assumed that Jerry was father of Leona's child too

I just never get where that comes from. Is there some sexual tension I'm missing here?

Then who ? I mean, yeah, we know Leona was supposed to have a husband but we don't see him in the final movie at all. And Jerry definetly felt something towards her


Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2020, 10:17:47 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 21, 2020, 06:55:14 PM
Almost 3 hours ? I wasn't planning to sleep tonight anyway

:laugh: The audio one is about 20 minutes less. I'm still astonished that the pauses and uhhhmms and aaahhhhs consistently add up to about 20 minutes.  :laugh:

Oh, I never watch video ones (sorry). That's why I said almost

TheBATMAN

Leona is clearly around 3 months pregnant when Jerry is transferred so im not sure why people buy into that particular idea.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Kradan on Nov 23, 2020, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2020, 10:17:47 AM
QuoteI always assumed that Jerry was father of Leona's child too

I just never get where that comes from. Is there some sexual tension I'm missing here?

Then who ? I mean, yeah, we know Leona was supposed to have a husband but we don't see him in the final movie at all. And Jerry definetly felt something towards her

As much as I miss the boyfriend/husband footage from the finished film, it is pretty inconsequential to the narrative. She's human, humans have sex and make babies. It doesn't really matter who it was with.

Sure, he felt something for her. Protectiveness over his partner. It doesn't have to be sexual.


Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 23, 2020, 11:43:03 AM
Leona is clearly around 3 months pregnant when Jerry is transferred so im not sure why people buy into that particular idea.

And this. She'd known Jerry barely a week?

Kradan

Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 23, 2020, 11:43:03 AM
Leona is clearly around 3 months pregnant when Jerry is transferred so im not sure why people buy into that particular idea.

Is my name Clemens to know that ?

TheBATMAN

No just a quick glance at the Pred's POV would tell you that given its shape and form.

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