Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?

Started by TomBrad123, Oct 03, 2021, 01:21:44 PM

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OpenMaw

This is what happens when you bash and smash scripts and cut out huge swaths of exposition. Basic stuff doesn't make sense.

Originally, all four engineers were "infected." The "Last" Engineer was not too happy to be woken up, as it mean the crew of Prometheus had signed his death warrent.

In the movie as it is, we have no idea why anything is happening.

With the exception of Janek's theory that it was a bio weapons facility far away from home, and... Ya know, really Earth shattering stuff.

Quote from: oduodu on Jan 11, 2022, 06:35:35 PM2000 years prior to the weyland crew visiting lv 223 was written very deliberately to not make sense.

That's not actually true. The script Lindelof wrote actually explains a great great deal of what is supposed to be happening and has a lot of exposionary dialogue that was outright chopped out of the movie. I've started to suspect that the reason isn't because they wanted a lot of mystery, so much as having David go on for paragraphs about the history of the Engineers and what's this, what's that... It was so stilted that it was just cut.

Quote from: oduodu on Jan 11, 2022, 06:35:35 PMlindelof is very good at this while keeping people interested.

He's good at raising questions and not answering them, generally, on Lost... And that started to frustrate the audience of Lost. Which is why I was not happy when I heard he was involved as a writer for Prometheus.



Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jan 12, 2022, 02:46:56 AMIt is possible the Engineer was put in stasis as a form of punishment, to neutralize him because he was part of giants wanting to wipe out homosapians. Of course that's with the interpretation that there were two sects of Engineers.

We can only go by intent. In the Lindelof script none of that is there. The Engineers are a dying race, desperately trying to extend their lives. Something that should not have been cut because it so perfectly ties into Weyland's motivation... But what the Hell, who wants consistent themes that pay off?

Bottom line is, their experiments blew up in their faces, and the Engineers tried to put themselves in lockdown to avoid it.. and all but the one we meet failed.

Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Apr 01, 2022, 09:58:18 PMMost likely the stasis Engineer was a back up, kept asleep in case everything "went to pot."
Another possibility is the Stasis Engineer  pit himself in stasis to avoid the outbreak.

The most likely answer is that the Engineer was simply not infected. He got lucky, and nobody else did.

The Cruentus

Quote from: TomBrad123 on Oct 03, 2021, 01:21:44 PMIn Prometheus the Engineer is in stasis but was going to take off to Earth when the outbreak occurred.   Why did he stay in stasis for 2000 years?  What was he waiting for?

Also why were all the Engineers running in the holographic playback?  From a deacon?  But they all appeared to have exploded from within when piled against the door.  Would Holloway have also exploded?

I can't recall for sure but in the original script, I think it was because he was infected. He was in stasis to halt the process. I might be wrong though

Corporal Hicks

That's correct. That's how it was in the pre-Prometheus drafts.

Sabres21768

The holographic Engineers were DEFINITELY running from a Deacon.
If you listen closely, you can here what's chasing them scream and it's the exact scream the Deacon makes at the end of the movie.

Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

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Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 30, 2023, 12:56:44 AMThe holographic Engineers were DEFINITELY running from a Deacon.
If you listen closely, you can here what's chasing them scream and it's the exact scream the Deacon makes at the end of the movie.

Yeah, it is not that I want to defend the film with everything and its flaws, but that roar was definitely a 'clue' to what happened. Anyway the Engineers were infected and apparently they were on their way to being Fifield-like abominations.



Even Milburn mentions that their helmets have holes as if something had exploded from the inside.

Now how this hypothetical Deacon was born, given the complicated life cycle that involved the trilobite... is subject of debate.

~ Later in Covenant David said ~

"The pathogen was designed to infect all nonbotanical life forms. All the animals... the meat, if you will. Either k*ll them outright... or use them as incubators to spawn a hybrid form. Highly aggressive."

And while some fans think that the pathogen is nothing but a device of  "whatever the f**k makes the plot run" kind...this seems to suggest that the Engineers were escaping from a Neomorph. The Deacon is a rarity. Nenomorphs are the product of a mutagen called plagiarus linesters. When David resequenced the pathogen, the mutagen became plagiarus praepotens; which is the one that creates the Aliens we all love, including the bug stick...aka David's Praetomorph.

Even so, it is worth wondering what type of mutagenic substance the trilobite injected into the Engineer to create the Deacon...another variant of plagiarus linesters?



Anyway People who play Free League RPG, Alex White scholars or Aliens: Fireteam Elite gamers may help you to solve the mystery 👉👈

~ Too bad we can't say the same thing about him! >:( ~

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dnicholson277

It's very weird that the planetoid had atleast two working spaceships just on standby for 2000 years and none of the other engineers thought whatever happened to those guys making the goo?

Terrible story telling masked as mystery.

Wweyland

The Engineer in stasis was clearly an asshole (Bad Blood Engineer?) and nobody bothered to wake him up.

City Hunter Yautja

Quote from: OpenMaw on Sep 26, 2022, 11:04:07 AMThis is what happens when you bash and smash scripts and cut out huge swaths of exposition. Basic stuff doesn't make sense.

Originally, all four engineers were "infected." The "Last" Engineer was not too happy to be woken up, as it mean the crew of Prometheus had signed his death warrent.

In the movie as it is, we have no idea why anything is happening.

With the exception of Janek's theory that it was a bio weapons facility far away from home, and... Ya know, really Earth shattering stuff.

Quote from: oduodu on Jan 11, 2022, 06:35:35 PM2000 years prior to the weyland crew visiting lv 223 was written very deliberately to not make sense.

That's not actually true. The script Lindelof wrote actually explains a great great deal of what is supposed to be happening and has a lot of exposionary dialogue that was outright chopped out of the movie. I've started to suspect that the reason isn't because they wanted a lot of mystery, so much as having David go on for paragraphs about the history of the Engineers and what's this, what's that... It was so stilted that it was just cut.

Quote from: oduodu on Jan 11, 2022, 06:35:35 PMlindelof is very good at this while keeping people interested.

He's good at raising questions and not answering them, generally, on Lost... And that started to frustrate the audience of Lost. Which is why I was not happy when I heard he was involved as a writer for Prometheus.



Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jan 12, 2022, 02:46:56 AMIt is possible the Engineer was put in stasis as a form of punishment, to neutralize him because he was part of giants wanting to wipe out homosapians. Of course that's with the interpretation that there were two sects of Engineers.

We can only go by intent. In the Lindelof script none of that is there. The Engineers are a dying race, desperately trying to extend their lives. Something that should not have been cut because it so perfectly ties into Weyland's motivation... But what the Hell, who wants consistent themes that pay off?

Bottom line is, their experiments blew up in their faces, and the Engineers tried to put themselves in lockdown to avoid it.. and all but the one we meet failed.

Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Apr 01, 2022, 09:58:18 PMMost likely the stasis Engineer was a back up, kept asleep in case everything "went to pot."
Another possibility is the Stasis Engineer  pit himself in stasis to avoid the outbreak.

The most likely answer is that the Engineer was simply not infected. He got lucky, and nobody else did.

Boy did he not get lucky layer with Trilobite.. or well maybe he did.. :p

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