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Posted by SM
 - Sep 21, 2020, 10:19:17 PM
If you're going to recast - do something different.
Posted by Stompy the Perfect Xeno
 - Sep 21, 2020, 01:40:40 PM
I'm not sure if Watson would be the right choice. Winona Ryder felt off before and now her? Maybe it's just me, but she's too small and looks too young, like 19? Can't believe she is 30 already.  :-\

Just pick Brienne of f :-X :-X :-X Tarth.

Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Sep 21, 2020, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 21, 2020, 10:31:04 AM
I don't think it necessarily think standalone means we have to be picking up with them at the start of something where we're ahead of them. Standalones can pick up the situation on the run so we can avoid the dull part where the characters catch up to us.

Agreed. While I think there's still creative ways you can continue with the protagonists being less informed than the audience, this path can absolutely work too, while still informing new audience what's going on.  Colonial Marines are in firefight. Booms and Ratatatats aplenty.  Weird spider-hand-like creature jumps on one of the Marines' faces. New audience member wonders what's up with that? Marine yells "HE'S BEING IMPREGNATED!!" Eww, okay I get it. A simplistic example of using brief explanations through dialogue without bogging down with life cycle explanations that fans know it a million times over.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 21, 2020, 12:11:14 PM
They generally tell a self contained story though that doesn't mean you have to have watched everything else. At some point in an Alien flick some one has to explain how the life cycle works and the sooner the better.

Even when they made Alien 3 they had to keep adding stuff to explain where the Alien came from, based on audience feedback.
Posted by SiL
 - Sep 21, 2020, 11:45:58 AM
After a while you can.

See also, Marvel really not giving a shit if you don't understand a scene because you didn't see one of the last six movies.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 21, 2020, 11:39:01 AM
QuoteI don't think it necessarily think standalone means we have to be picking up with them at the start of something where we're ahead of them. Standalones can pick up the situation on the run so we can avoid the dull part where the characters catch up to us.

There are ways you could do it, without standing around having a chat, but you can't assume the audience has seen an Alien film before.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Sep 21, 2020, 10:31:04 AM
I don't think it necessarily think standalone means we have to be picking up with them at the start of something where we're ahead of them. Standalones can pick up the situation on the run so we can avoid the dull part where the characters catch up to us.

Quote from: RidleyScott99 on Sep 19, 2020, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 19, 2020, 11:35:47 AM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Sep 19, 2020, 07:42:38 AM
Not interested in a reboot nor remake of ALIEN. As far as I'm concerned, the film is as close to perfection as humanly possible. But, if this film does get made, I hope it leads to the rest of the films being released in a lavish 4K set.

Sigourney Weaver as Ripley, is irreplaceable.

Agreed.  The only thing about the film that could really stand to be changed is updating the technology of all the human equipment....

...and that would ruin the film.
Ridley Scott kind of explained this. The Characters of ALIEN are normal and low level people so low level tech makes sense. The Characters of PROMETHEUS are Billionaires so High Level Tech makes sense

Honestly, that kind of thing seems perfectly reasonable to me now. I still see Windows XP machines in use in some corners of my business. I see all sorts of antiquated shit.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 21, 2020, 07:13:49 AM
The problem with stand alones is explaining what's going on to the characters leading to long expository passages, which the audience is already all over.

Having Ripley in the sequels means dealing with that in a very short few passages of dialogue.
Posted by judge death
 - Sep 21, 2020, 12:34:12 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 21, 2020, 12:06:14 AM
I'd rather just see different filmmakers come in and do standalones rather than just see an endless loop of unrelated sequels to one movie from the middle of the franchise.
^This, new standalone movies with new charachters and new places and doing new things, but also sticking to the world of aliens and correct retro future designs based on alien-alien3 lore.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - Sep 21, 2020, 12:06:14 AM
I'd rather just see different filmmakers come in and do standalones rather than just see an endless loop of unrelated sequels to one movie from the middle of the franchise.
Posted by Perfect-Organism
 - Sep 21, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
No, I mean sequels that directly connect to the film Aliens.  Spin it in different ways and see what sticks.  I know the suggestion is unrealistic but it would be fun.  We've already had a few post-Aliens series such as the original DH run, the Alien 3 film, and the recently released Gibson series.  I enjoy all the different takes on what could happen post-Aliens.

I realize that most likely these could take place in comics.  There is also the possibility of doing one good film Rey-con of Alien 3, but there is no guarantee that it will be better.
Posted by SM
 - Sep 20, 2020, 10:26:57 PM
So more or less continue what Fox was doing.
Posted by Perfect-Organism
 - Sep 20, 2020, 07:52:32 PM
I'd like to see lots of different sequels to Aliens.  Each attempt could be something different.
Posted by son_of_kane
 - Sep 20, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
While it would be nice to see the "used future" aesthetic make a return, I hope Disney doesn't follow it too slavishly like they did with the Star Wars sequels. Does anyone want to see a carbon copy of the Nostromo? It's been done, and it was done brilliantly the first time. Vincent Ward's wooden planet idea for Alien3 may have pushed the envelope out too far, but that's better than dialling it right back imho.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - Sep 20, 2020, 04:14:49 PM
On the contrary, Alien works best when delving into the uncomfortable. ;)
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