http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Q0wOavsypzMJ:playfront.de/alien-isolation-sega-day-one&strip=1 (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Q0wOavsypzMJ:playfront.de/alien-isolation-sega-day-one&strip=1)
I know the lyp-sync fix its important (hurra!!), but take a look about the "exploration" stuff...wow...it seems the Station its more open for exploration and than i previously thought O_O
Backtracking too?
Niceee 8)
Cool. Thanks for sharing!
When i click that link I get a 404 Error. :(
Looks like that has been removed now too. I guess they didn't want that posted yet.
Check the news post for full patch notes: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2014/10/01/alien-isolation-day-one-patch-notes/ (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2014/10/01/alien-isolation-day-one-patch-notes/)
seems like people are getting the game early from diffenet places i guess
good to know lip-syncing will be fixed.
For some reason these notes almost sound like pointers for reviewers. Bit odd way to summarize fixes.
They went gold with blocking bugs like this? I'm really surprised as this sounds like pretty basic stuff and no doubt the reviewers will pick up on it.
I had heard Rome 2 was so buggy that CA had to apologise to fans. I sincerely hope that doesn't end up being the case here. Fingers crossed for Tuesday.
@Xenoscream
I've been a video game tester for ~6-7 years now. I'm done with game testing at this point, but I did learn a lot.
A day one patch is usually due to new issues being found later in the development cycle. Throughout a project it's quite rare that you don't find one or two serious issues in the months leading to release. At this point in the project, builds have already been submitted (or are about to be submitted) to Sony and Microsoft for certification. If Cert finds an issue, the option to resolve those issues in a day 1 patch as opposed to delaying the game is there.
It is a bit of a nuisance for gamers, but not a huge one.
Though I do hope that Alien: Isolation isn't too buggy on release.
Quote from: Xenoscream on Oct 02, 2014, 10:02:38 AM
They went gold with blocking bugs like this? I'm really surprised as this sounds like pretty basic stuff and no doubt the reviewers will pick up on it.
I had heard Rome 2 was so buggy that CA had to apologise to fans. I sincerely hope that doesn't end up being the case here. Fingers crossed for Tuesday.
The decision to go gold and other milestones are often influenced or dictated by the publisher - that's just an economic reality. I don't think we should chastise developers for continuing to refine the product in the downtime between submitting the software for distribution and it reaching consumers though. Would you rather a day one patch, or a broken game for weeks or months?
Day one DLC is another thing...
Quote from: Xenoscream on Oct 02, 2014, 10:02:38 AM
They went gold with blocking bugs like this?
Aye, it doesn't bode well. Whatever the case, it's pretty inexcusable to ship a game with so many game breaking bugs. I know that it's often standard practice these days for a game to have a day one patch but that doesn't make it right. I miss the days of a game being good to go straight out of the box. This modern "meh, who cares about these bugs, we'll fix it after release. The Internet means that we don't have to worry about QA prior to going gold" attitude from developers is pretty bloody pathetic.
...Okay, rant over.
Quote from: The Necronoir on Oct 02, 2014, 11:09:03 AM
The decision to go gold and other milestones are often influenced or dictated by the publisher - that's just an economic reality. I don't think we should chastise developers for continuing to refine the product in the downtime between submitting the software for distribution and it reaching consumers though. Would you rather a day one patch, or a broken game for weeks or months?
I don't agree with this. As the consumer, should I care whether it's the developer or publisher who's responsible for such things? That's like saying that if I go to a restaurant and order a chips, only to receive a plate of unpeeled spuds; I shouldn't complain because it was the managers fault and not the chef's. I'm paying my money; I have a right to expect a certain level of quality assurance. Of course there's nothing wrong with patching a game down the line but day one patches are an abhorrent practice.
Quote from: The Necronoir on Oct 02, 2014, 11:09:03 AMDay one DLC is another thing...
Which
'Alien: Isolation' is also guilty of (even if they're holding back the ability to buy the DLC immediately for those who didn't pre-order the game).
Dont think thouse are "mayor bugs" imho. Most of them are listed like "there is a small chance of...blablah".
And most of the people who played for 6/8 hours seems to love it...so definely thouse arent gamebraker bugs
Quote from: Seegson on Oct 02, 2014, 11:13:58 AM
Dont think thouse are "mayor bugs" imho. Most of them are listed like "there is a small chance of...blablah".
And most of the people who played for 6/8 hours seems to love it...so definely thouse arent gamebraker bugs
I don't doubt that I'll be getting a lot of enjoyment out of the game and dare I say it, I'll possibly even end up loving the experience (what I've seen so far would suggest so) but that doesn't mean that I'm willing to hand-wave a crappy attitude to QA, simply because I'm stoked for the franchise and this game in particular.
I don't want to come across as overly negative; after-all, I'm really looking forward to getting my grubby mitts on this game. I just don't understand how some people can make excuses for bad business practice.
If AI its free of thouse bugs since day one, i dont see "that" a bad business practice, but oh well
Quote from: Seegson on Oct 02, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
If AI its free of thouse bugs since day one, i dont see "that" a bad business practice, but oh well
Okay, let me put it to you this way; not everyone has the Internet at home (I should know, I'm one of those people). There have been situations in the past where I've purchased a game for my PS3 and have been unable to update it with a day one patch, leading to an extremely buggy experience that simply shouldn't have been in the first place (
'Fallout: New Vegas', I'm looking at you).
No offense mate, but we are in 2014. Internet its everywhere, you are using it right now (after all, this is a internet forum, and your forum sig has youtube links). You even cant play 90% of PC games without a internet conection, so is not an excuse anymore : /
Quote from: Seegson on Oct 02, 2014, 01:32:27 PM
No offense mate, but we are in 2014. Internet its everywhere...
I'm aware of the year, thank you. Technically speaking, the Internet isn't
everywhere but I see your point. However, why do you assume that everybody has access to the Internet at their place of residence, where their gaming machines are located? I already said that I don't have the Internet at my flat. I don't have it because I can't afford it. I'm not alone in this. Good for you, that you can afford to maintain an Internet connection but I cannot afford such a thing. So, offense
very much taken actually.
Quote from: Seegson on Oct 02, 2014, 01:32:27 PM...you are using it right now (after all, this is a internet forum, and your forum sig has youtube links).
Check out my forum post history and you'll see a pattern of only ever posting every couple of months; guess why that is?
It could be because I'm using an Internet café or a public library. However, in this case it's because I'm currently staying over at my parents house for a couple of weeks (they live an hours drive from my home), hence why I
sometimes (read: rarely) have
temporary access to the Internet.
Quote from: Seegson on Oct 02, 2014, 01:32:27 PMYou even cant play 90% of PC games without a internet conection, so is not an excuse anymore : /
Excuse?! I literally can not afford to maintain an Internet connection at my flat. I do not have the means. My finances do not allow such a thing. The very fact I'm buying
'Alien: Isolation' is a rarity in of itself. I can only afford to treat myself to a single game (
or a few DVDs) once every three months. I am 32 years of age, mentally handicapped and on benefits in the UK (where disabled people on welfare are currently being put through the ringer). How's that for an
"excuse"?
Perhaps you should consider that not everybody in this life is as well off as you, hmm?
In response to your mention of PC games requiring an Internet connection; did I not give an example earlier of having trouble with
'Fallout: New Vegas' for
PS3 (on which, games don't require an Internet connection)? Oh yeah, I did...
While I take on-board that others have said about the development cycle (I work as a project manager implementing large scale IT systems so I truly emphasise) the reason alarm bells starting ringing for me are two-fold:
1. CA have a track record of releasing buggy games, check near the bottom of this article for an example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War:_Rome_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War:_Rome_II))
2. They went gold and released this to reviewers with blocking defects, which by nature are serious and not necessarily hard to find, which makes me wonder how many more were missed, or required fixes which could not be done in time?
Now I seriously hope that my concerns are unfounded, I've pre-ordered and I can't wait to play this game, but how often are there really day one patches?
Quote from: Xenoscream on Oct 02, 2014, 02:30:16 PM
While I take on-board that others have said about the development cycle (I work as a project manager implementing large scale IT systems so I truly emphasise) the reason alarm bells starting ringing for me are two-fold:
1. CA have a track record of releasing buggy games, check near the bottom of this article for an example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War:_Rome_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War:_Rome_II))
2. They went gold and released this to reviewers with blocking defects, which by nature are serious and not necessarily hard to find, which makes me wonder how many more were missed, or required fixes which could not be done in time?
My thoughts and concerns exactly. As to the actual state of the game; time will tell. Fingers crossed though.
Quote from: Xenoscream on Oct 02, 2014, 02:30:16 PM...how often are there really day one patches?
Not having regular access to the Internet, I'm not sure but I strongly suspect that it happens
way more often than it ought to.
Quote from: Xenoscream on Oct 02, 2014, 02:30:16 PM
While I take on-board that others have said about the development cycle (I work as a project manager implementing large scale IT systems so I truly emphasise) the reason alarm bells starting ringing for me are two-fold:
1. CA have a track record of releasing buggy games, check near the bottom of this article for an example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War:_Rome_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War:_Rome_II))
2. They went gold and released this to reviewers with blocking defects, which by nature are serious and not necessarily hard to find, which makes me wonder how many more were missed, or required fixes which could not be done in time?
Now I seriously hope that my concerns are unfounded, I've pre-ordered and I can't wait to play this game, but how often are there really day one patches?
Rome 2 is playable now for the most part, also this is a different development team. You can't really blame the total war guys if Isolation has a buggy release.
Pretty much every game nowadays has a day one patch so really it's not that unusual at all.
I will give CA the benefit of the doubt, as most games have day 1 patches.
896MB patch, seems like they forgot to add the difference in graphics in the update menu to these patch notes, or they're incomplete
Well said mate some people are ignorant and dont appreciate that not everyone is able to have the privileged things they have or can obtain on a regular basis.
I hope we both enjoy Alien Isolation!
Sorry my comment was for St_Eddie! I thought it replied directly to your earlier comment!
Hopefully this game will be decent!
I have experienced the rewiring boxes will not let me back out. Making me have to reload last save. I don't see how it could be displaying wrong key commands. Its simply working at one time, and not working the rest.
If theres another button Besides Q Please tell me.
Or if there's something keeping me from exiting rewiring boxes, I don't see what it could be.
Quote from: con_wills on Oct 07, 2014, 09:00:37 PM
Well said mate some people are ignorant and dont appreciate that not everyone is able to have the privileged things they have or can obtain on a regular basis.
Aye, it's a bizarre way of viewing the world to be sure;
"I have Internet at home, therefore everybody else must do also". I don't think that I'll ever quite be able to wrap my head around that way of thinking.
Quote from: con_wills on Oct 07, 2014, 09:00:37 PMI hope we both enjoy Alien Isolation!
If my copy ever actually turns up in the post, I will! :-\
internet is cheap as shit these days. i get 30mb download for £15 a month. i could have got 20mb for £7.50 a month. i dont know how much it is in the US but the internet isn't a privilege for most people
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 09, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
internet is cheap as shit these days. i get 30mb download for £15 a month. i could have got 20mb for £7.50 a month. i dont know how much it is in the US but the internet isn't a privilege for most people
I am also British by the way. I am also poor. I really can't afford £15 a month without worrying about not being able to pay my bills. There are also installation costs (I don't even have a phone line). Also, is 30mb a month even going to begin to cover the sheer number of megabytes (or even gigabytes) that are required by game patches these days (which is what led to this discussion in the first place)?
Having said that, I don't want to make a big deal out of it. I was just explaining as to my reason for not having access to the Internet.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Oct 09, 2014, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 09, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
internet is cheap as shit these days. i get 30mb download for £15 a month. i could have got 20mb for £7.50 a month. i dont know how much it is in the US but the internet isn't a privilege for most people
I am also British by the way. I am also poor. I really can't afford £15 a month without worrying about not being able to pay my bills. There are also installation costs (I don't even have a phone line). Also, is 30mb a month even going to begin to cover the sheer number of megabytes (or even gigabytes) that are required by game patches these days (which is what led to this discussion in the first place)?
Having said that, I don't want to make a big deal out of it. I was just explaining as to my reason for not having access to the Internet.
i meant 30mb/s download speed. if you have a contract phone you can normally get great deals for broadband for just being a customer.
i'd recommend finding a way to download the patch, i hate poor lip syncing. this shouldn't really happen in video games the process should be much easier to perfect than live action which can be an absolute bitch to get right.
http://forums.alienisolation.com/forum/support/pc-only-issues/graphical-issues/21138-floating-guns-and-permanently-on-fire?p=21474#post21474 (http://forums.alienisolation.com/forum/support/pc-only-issues/graphical-issues/21138-floating-guns-and-permanently-on-fire?p=21474#post21474)
Looks like they are acknowledging the patch now but still no official notes.
Another mention to the day one patch here: https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/201600551-Alien-Isolation-PC-Guide (https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/201600551-Alien-Isolation-PC-Guide)
And on PS3 where it says it's a 411 mb download as in our article: https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/201469262-Alien-Isolation-PS3-Guide (https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/201469262-Alien-Isolation-PS3-Guide)