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Title: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: felix on Nov 27, 2021, 01:10:15 PM
Coming July 26, 2022.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1789099943/ref=sr_1_22?keywords=titan+books&qid=1638018465&s=books&sr=1-22

A gargantuan, horseshoe-shaped ship appears over the mining planet Shānmén, unleashing a black rain of death that creates Xenomorph-like monsters worse than the darkest of nightmares.

As war breaks out among the colonies, a huge ship appears over the UPP mining planet Shānmén, unleashing a black rain of death that yields hideous transformations. Rescue is too far away, and the colonists' only hope appears in the form of the vessel Righteous Fury. It carries the Jackals—an elite mix of former Colonial Marines and Royal Marines. Led by Zula Hendrix, the Jackals seek to rescue the few survivors from the depths of the planet, but have they arrived time?

*Just amended the title. Hicks.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 27, 2021, 01:14:36 PM
Got really interested until I read that name...
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: felix on Nov 27, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
We sure are getting a lot of Alien/Predator books next year.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Xiggz456 on Nov 27, 2021, 03:12:05 PM
DJ Khaled voice: Another One!

Titan is pumping them out and I f**kin love it! And Zula is coming back! f**k ya!
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: skhellter on Nov 27, 2021, 03:36:37 PM
oh. This one's by MUTHUR ;D

Godspeed. Neat concept. Bittersweet seeing Zula being used in novels. I liked bits from that dark horse comic book run... (that one writer can f**k off).
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: acrediblesource on Nov 27, 2021, 04:55:55 PM
Wow what an awesome cover! Digging the white spot!
and simplicity of the black is avante garde if id say so. reminds me of how those classic 70s european impressionist artists did their...ok ill shut up now.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 27, 2021, 05:32:39 PM
The returning character makes me hesitant, but seeing Clara do this' great, it finally makes sense.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 05:43:55 PM
Don't wanna be a bummer, but does Clara have any previous writing credits ?


Quote from: acrediblesource on Nov 27, 2021, 04:55:55 PM
Wow what an awesome cover! Digging the white spot!
and simplicity of the black is avante garde if id say so. reminds me of how those classic 70s european impressionist artists did their...ok ill shut up now.

It litteraly says "Not final cover"

And did their what ? I don't get what're you implying here
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 27, 2021, 06:00:17 PM
Really cool that Clara's co-written this! Hopefully it's a step up from the last Zula book because I thought Prototype was throughly middling. Also that mention of colonies at war definitely seems to put this in the midst of the conflict set up at the end of Into Charybdis and being expanded upon in Colony War.

As others have said, Titan are proper on it with the books lately. This is, what, five we've got on the way now including the AVP novels?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: acrediblesource on Nov 27, 2021, 06:49:10 PM
 "Not final cover" is still considered a work in progress. Ill drink to that!
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 05:43:55 PM
Don't wanna be a bummer, but does Clara have any previous writing credits ?


Quote from: acrediblesource on Nov 27, 2021, 04:55:55 PM
Wow what an awesome cover! Digging the white spot!
and simplicity of the black is avante garde if id say so. reminds me of how those classic 70s european impressionist artists did their...ok ill shut up now.

It litteraly says "Not final cover"

And did their what ? I don't get what're you implying here
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 27, 2021, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 05:43:55 PM
Don't wanna be a bummer, but does Clara have any previous writing credits ?


Quote from: acrediblesource on Nov 27, 2021, 04:55:55 PM
Wow what an awesome cover! Digging the white spot!
and simplicity of the black is avante garde if id say so. reminds me of how those classic 70s european impressionist artists did their...ok ill shut up now.

It litteraly says "Not final cover"

And did their what ? I don't get what're you implying here

No clara doesn't have a writing credit yet, but she has consulted on several projects including into charybdis, phalanx and the RPG by free league. She knows "alien" better than most. I'm guessing she's co-authoring because this is her first writing credit, but nonetheless, I think she'll nail it based on her previous involvements.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 07:45:10 PM
Nothing against Clara. I just hope she has what it takes to execute her ideas whatever they're
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Darwinsgirl on Nov 27, 2021, 07:56:01 PM

This is very exciting news!

Muthur co-authored an ALIEN novel.  8)  Congratulations Clara on your up coming novel.

   This time its "Not for our eyes only!"  ;)

Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 08:07:33 PM
Now that I think about it, I would be more interested in a book set between Pro and Cov dealing with David and Shaw on Planet 4 written by Clara
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 27, 2021, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 07:45:10 PM
Nothing against Clara. I just hope she has what it takes to execute her ideas whatever they're

I still think that's why there's a co-author.
Personally, I think this is an amazing opportunity for clara; she gets to learn from a professional author while working on her first book. Maybe the next one she'll be the sole author. It's pretty incredible they've found a co-author to work with her on this. I would guess most authors would rather go at it alone, rather than co-author with someone with no previous experience. I'm very excited for her and her co-author. Looking forward to seeing what they've come up with!!
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Gentleman Death on Nov 28, 2021, 02:39:24 AM
Always love a new novel! Although I'm not terribly excited about Zulus character in this, but that's just because of what previous iterations of her have been. Guess we'll see...
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 08:41:16 AM
Are there going to be any Aliens in this Aliens novel?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 09:02:53 AM
Even better - there's gonna be fans' favourite - Black Goo ! LOTS of it
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 09:11:36 AM
I know I sure buy an Alien novel to read about things other than Aliens.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 09:45:02 AM
Tbf we've had like 30 novels with Aliens, I'm fine with one experimenting a little bit.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 10:04:53 AM
TBF there are millions of books without Aliens in them, they're just not called Aliens novels because of it.

Except that one, which nobody seemed to like and nobody talks about.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 10:08:16 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 10:04:53 AMTBF there are millions of books without Aliens in them, they're just not called Aliens novels because of it.

This is still clearly based on the black goo though, which very much is a part of Alien by this point.

Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 10:04:53 AMExcept that one, which nobody seemed to like and nobody talks about.

Fair point, that's like the only one I've not actually read :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Stitch on Nov 28, 2021, 10:25:33 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 10:04:53 AM
TBF there are millions of books without Aliens in them, they're just not called Aliens novels because of it.

Except that one, which nobody seemed to like and nobody talks about.
Which one? Or am I being dense?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 10:35:14 AM
The Covenant prequel book.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 10:37:39 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 10:08:16 AM

This is still clearly based on the black goo though, which very much is a part of Alien by this point.
There's a reason Prometheus didn't have the Alien title in it.

EDIT

And for clarity my initial question was sincere, as there can be goo and Aliens. But if there's no Aliens I honestly don't see the point and will skip it.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 28, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
I did tell you this was inevitably going to be a commonality in the franchise's future.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: skhellter on Nov 28, 2021, 11:18:31 AM
neomorphs are cool.

Really don't mind if they take the lead for a book


The franchise isn't called XENomorph anyway.

(thanks for diversifying the threats, Ridley)
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 28, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
I did tell you this was inevitably going to be a commonality in the franchise's future.
And I did tell you I'm not interested in it, what's your point?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 11:33:53 AM
Premise of Engineer ship arriving at some distant colony planet to bomb the shit out of it with Black Goo (which, as HuDaFuk pointed out, already connected to Alien, whether one likes it or not) sounds interesting enough for me so I won't  be too annoyed with not having proper Aliens in the book but I can understand people who are not too happy with where Ridley took franchise with prequels' narrative being turned off by it
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 11:41:39 AM
Don't get me wrong, I've got no problems with spinoffs. I just think leave the Alien label off it.

Fox really should've built Prometheus as a brand when they had the chance to catch all of this stuff and open up the possibilities.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 11:41:39 AMFox really should've built Prometheus as a brand when they had the chance to catch all of this stuff and open up the possibilities.

The lack of action on that just kinda sums up what a shitshow the management of the prequels has been, really. I mean we've got a movie that's a prequel but then it isn't but it kind of is, trying to expand away from the Alien but then they make a sequel that basically forgets all that in favour of introducing the Alien.

The one time they actually tried to build upon Prometheus was when they introduced the brand into the comics but even that was stymied when they tied the stories exclusively to AVP crossover events.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 28, 2021, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: felix on Nov 27, 2021, 01:10:15 PM
Coming July 26, 2022.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1789099943/ref=sr_1_22?keywords=titan+books&qid=1638018465&s=books&sr=1-22

A gargantuan, horseshoe-shaped ship appears over the mining planet Shānmén, unleashing a black rain of death that creates Xenomorph-like monsters worse than the darkest of nightmares.

As war breaks out among the colonies, a huge ship appears over the UPP mining planet Shānmén, unleashing a black rain of death that yields hideous transformations. Rescue is too far away, and the colonists' only hope appears in the form of the vessel Righteous Fury. It carries the Jackals—an elite mix of former Colonial Marines and Royal Marines. Led by Zula Hendrix, the Jackals seek to rescue the few survivors from the depths of the planet, but have they arrived time?

That got my interest.  8)

I always wanted that. I mean, humanity defeating them (and killing them) made them look weak. So I am glad for once they win against us, to so speak.




Quote from: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 08:07:33 PM
Now that I think about it, I would be more interested in a book set between Pro and Cov dealing with David and Shaw on Planet 4 written by Clara

Now you're talking.




Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 11:41:39 AMFox really should've built Prometheus as a brand when they had the chance to catch all of this stuff and open up the possibilities.

The lack of action on that just kinda sums up what a shitshow the management of the prequels has been, really. I mean we've got a movie that's a prequel but then it isn't but it kind of is, trying to expand away from the Alien but then they make a sequel that basically forgets all that in favour of introducing the Alien.

The one time they actually tried to build upon Prometheus was when they introduced the brand into the comics but even that was stymied when they tied the stories exclusively to AVP crossover events.

What a waste of potential. I don't like Fire & Stone.  :'(
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 03:25:15 PM
As a whole Fire & Stone was fine IMO with artwork being a highlight of the whole series. Predator storyline was bloody great
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 28, 2021, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 28, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
I did tell you this was inevitably going to be a commonality in the franchise's future.
And I did tell you I'm not interested in it, what's your point?

What you said about the nomenclature, like I mentioned in the Alien FX thread, and Skhellter just said "Alien" or "Aliens" refers more to the franchise now than H.R Giger's beast specifically.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 08:12:25 PM
Yes, that's the whole topic I've been discussing; again, what's your point? I know you said it would happen. I said I wouldn't be interested. Now look at us; it's happening, I'm not interested.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2021, 08:16:23 PM
Maybe we should call it the Black Goo franchise now.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 28, 2021, 08:29:16 PM
I'm simply surprised that you're surprised.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 08:57:53 PM
The only thing I'm surprised about is people seeming to act like wanting Aliens in an Alien novel is some kind of hot take.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kimarhi on Nov 28, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Who da fuk is clara?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 09:37:04 PM
She used to run Studio Yutani blog and hosted dedicated podcast show. Member of AvPGalaxy under the username Delta Echo Alpha Delta (formerly known as muthur9000) although she hasn't posted here since May

Also, probably the biggest fan of Covenant out there (ranks it as her number 1 Alien movie)
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 28, 2021, 10:15:43 PM
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 10:22:58 PM
I ain't hating on Clara or trying to convince anybody to agree with me, I'm just over here feelin' my feels and expressing myself.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 10:26:44 PM
And you know what ? I have no problem with it and don't understand why anybody would. You wanna your Aliens in Aliens book ? You have every right to do it
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 28, 2021, 10:30:54 PM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 10:22:58 PM
I ain't hating on Clara or trying to convince anybody to agree with me, I'm just over here feelin' my feels and expressing myself.

It was more that everyone else is on board while you're in the corner actively not enjoying the (potential) concept.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 10:44:17 PM
I'm a bit cautious too  :P
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 28, 2021, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 09:37:04 PM
She used to run Studio Yutani blog and hosted dedicated podcast show. Member of AvPGalaxy under the username Delta Echo Alpha Delta (formerly known as muthur9000) although she hasn't posted here since May

Also, probably the biggest fan of Covenant out there (ranks it as her number 1 Alien movie)

She's also a very active administrator and moderator at several fan groups on other platforms like Facebook.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 11:03:26 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 28, 2021, 10:30:54 PM
It was more that everyone else is on board while you're in the corner actively not enjoying the (potential) concept.
The meme's usually used to indicate the crabby person in the corner trying to convince the others to stop enjoying something (at least, that's how I've always seen it used). I'm not doing that.

Maybe the guy at the party standing in the corner while everyone else enjoys the party?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2021, 01:13:58 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 09:37:04 PM
Also, probably the biggest fan of Covenant out there (ranks it as her number 1 Alien movie)

Seriously? ???
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 29, 2021, 04:10:26 AM
Yes seriously.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Stitch on Nov 29, 2021, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 10:35:14 AM
The Covenant prequel book.
Oh. I didn't think that one was too bad. Hell, I might even prefer it to the film.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 29, 2021, 12:57:28 PM
I can't comment; as I mentioned earlier, it's about the only Alien novel I've not read.

It's been sitting on my shelf for a couple of years, I just can't seem to bring myself to start it :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 29, 2021, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
The one time they actually tried to build upon Prometheus was when they introduced the brand into the comics but even that was stymied when they tied the stories exclusively to AVP crossover events.

For me, Fire and Stone failed mostly because they couldn't really give any definitive storytelling because of Covenant. It was all wishy-washy, uncertain storytelling like Prometheus itself. Though I still really loved Elden - but then the writers didn't even know why/how that mutation worked, it just did. Life and Death I really enjoyed.

But yeah, Prometheus opened up some doors and I'm glad to see them being explored - whether or not it involves XX121. I get why SiL might not like it, but the Engineers are still alien (kinda) and so are the black goo creatures. At this point in the lore, the black goo is the Alien.


Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 10:35:14 AM
The Covenant prequel book.

That book's problem was not the lack of Aliens. It was just a huge waste.


So Clara's made it clear her contributions are story, not writing. Still cool to see her name on the cover! I'm quite curious about this one. I've been wanting to see the novels branch out further than just the fun they've been having with the DNA reflex the last year, so I'm quite eager to see where this one goes. Also interesting to see Zula back. Despite how Defiance petered off towards the end, and how just plain bad Resistance and Rescue were, I do like the character and enjoyed her in Prototype so keen to see her back.

Was talking with RidgeTop though, and given the reference to the war I'd expect this to be post Charybdis, which is post-Alien 3 so Zula should be pretty f**king old by this point. So maybe she's been chilling out in cryo somewhere?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 29, 2021, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 29, 2021, 12:59:30 PMFor me, Fire and Stone failed mostly because they couldn't really give any definitive storytelling because of Covenant. It was all wishy-washy, uncertain storytelling like Prometheus itself.

I wasn't really commenting on the quality of the story, just that I think it's a shame it was ultimately nothing more than a chapter in an AVP plot rather than launching off into its own series. It was never it's own thing.

But yeah, that too was probably a side-effect of them struggling around what the film people would let them do.

Didn't Fire and Stone get a huge re-write during development because Fox threw a shit-fit over what they originally had planned?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: skhellter on Nov 29, 2021, 01:21:39 PM
that fire and stone re-write is still so weird.

It forced them to avoid using the Deacons (which they had planned to do heavily).

Fox felt this was colliding with the neomorphs in Covenant.


which, when you really look at it.. it just doesn't.? the Deacon is a chaotic byproduct of the black goo infecting multiple people (holloway to shaw to the trilobite to the engineer) / The Neomorph was the chaotic byproduct of the genocide of the engineers... On a totally different planet.

Why did Fox feel like this was gonna create story conflict (with a non-canon story that features Predators, anyway?).

It just screams of producers meddling with a story and world they barely understand.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 29, 2021, 01:38:28 PM
Well, that's kinda what I'm getting at when I talk about the poor management. They were presumably planning to do more with the Deacon in the next film, but evidently that plan - if it ever even existed - changed by the time they got around to making Covenant.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 29, 2021, 02:02:46 PM
Yeah it is a pity honestly, speaking of DNA Reflex though I thought Aliens Phalanx did it perfectly, with the Vootervert one still being essentially an Alien like we know them but with clawed hands and feet that can shape into shovels for burrowing.

Hope we see more of that in the future with the Alien adapting potentially useful traits into itself.

Rather than "hurr durr big animal with horns makes a big alien with horns" that I find dull.

Hope we also see this with the Neomorphs in this, with them as previously depicted taking on traits from their earliest incubation, for example the first we see developing spines to break through the host's spine.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 29, 2021, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 29, 2021, 12:59:30 PM
For me, Fire and Stone failed mostly because they couldn't really give any definitive storytelling because of Covenant. It was all wishy-washy, uncertain storytelling like Prometheus itself. Though I still really loved Elden - but then the writers didn't even know why/how that mutation worked, it just did. Life and Death I really enjoyed.

For all its problems in story department Fire & Stone at least tried to do something new with all these crazy mutations and exploring what Black Goo might be while Life & Death I felt steped back to safe and generic "Marines vs Aliens pew pew pew".
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Nov 30, 2021, 01:28:18 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2021, 08:16:23 PM
Maybe we should call it the Black Goo franchise now.





Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 01:38:50 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 11:03:26 PM
Maybe the guy at the party standing in the corner while everyone else enjoys the party?

I'll be back with this tomorrow.

Quote from: Stitch on Nov 29, 2021, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 10:35:14 AM
The Covenant prequel book.
Oh. I didn't think that one was too bad. Hell, I might even prefer it to the film.

I think it's actually a really nice sci-fi novel. It just would have benefited from being it's own thing, frankly.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 30, 2021, 01:51:52 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 30, 2021, 01:28:18 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2021, 08:16:23 PM
Maybe we should call it the Black Goo franchise now.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/skinofevil_hd_386.png

This should be the first post of 'Best picture of a Black Goo' thread.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 01:53:23 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 01:38:50 AM
I think it's actually a really nice sci-fi novel. It just would have benefited from being it's own thing, frankly.
My point, in a delicious nutshell.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 02:02:02 AM
Yeah, but black goo, neomorphs and The Alien all appear in the same film, and apparently even the tangential tie-ins that share the universe are branded A L I E N at the minute. It just seems like a really odd thing to get hung up on.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 02:21:18 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 02:02:02 AM
Yeah, but black goo, neomorphs and The Alien all appear in the same film
So do androids; still wouldn't like an android-centred Alien novel with no Aliens.

QuoteIt just seems like a really odd thing to get hung up on.
I'm not getting hung up on anything, however
Quote from: SiL on Nov 28, 2021, 08:57:53 PM
... I'm surprised ... people [seem] to act like wanting Aliens in an Alien novel is some kind of hot take.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 30, 2021, 02:38:19 AM
It is a hot take nowadays.  Everyone knows that the franchise didn't truly reach its potential until it introduced the Engineers and David.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 30, 2021, 02:42:56 AM
Unlike the Alien, the Black Goo is not cooked yet.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 30, 2021, 02:44:06 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 30, 2021, 02:38:19 AM
It is a hot take nowadays.  Everyone knows that the franchise didn't truly reach its potential until it introduced the Engineers and David.

Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 02:48:35 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 02:21:18 AM
So do androids; still wouldn't like an android-centred Alien novel with no Aliens.

We still don't know if there'll be zero Aliens. There could be all sorts of asspulls to get one in there - not to mention having no idea who exactly is piloting the donut.

Quote... I'm surprised ... people [seem] to act like wanting Aliens in an Alien novel is some kind of hot take.

I think they can get away with the very occasional one that inhabits that world without the monster being front and center and still use the branding to communicate to people what franchise it's related to. The "Prometheus" label is a missed opportunity yes, but it is what it is. Silly hill to gripe on imo.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 30, 2021, 03:08:07 AM
There WILL be aliens in it... it says so in the synopsis... it's just a question of which aliens we're going to see: big chap, ridged, deacons, neomorphs or something else entirely...
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 03:12:19 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 02:48:35 AM
We still don't know if there'll be zero Aliens.
Which is exactly why I asked and am still waiting for an answer one way or another. I've not actually written off the book yet.

QuoteSilly hill to gripe on imo.
I'm not really griping on anything. I made one or two comments explaining my feelings and the rest has been mostly responding to people's direct replies to said feelings.

People are more hung up about me saying I'd like Aliens in my Aliens novels than I am at the prospect of there not being Aliens in my Aliens novels.


Quote from: Engineer on Nov 30, 2021, 03:08:07 AM
There WILL be aliens in it... it says so in the synopsis... it's just a question of which aliens we're going to see: big chap, ridged, deacons, neomorphs or something else entirely...
This is pretty disingenuous considering the title has meant the Alien character itself for most of the last 40 years.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 30, 2021, 04:21:29 AM
Disagree.
"Alien" was the title because it was nonspecific. It applies whether it's big chap, a neomorph or anything else...
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 04:50:28 AM
O'Bannon liked the title for that reason, yes, but again, incredibly disingenuous to act like for 40 years you could've written about any alien organism and slapped the franchise branding on it and it would've been fine. The title always referred to the creature.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 30, 2021, 05:07:00 AM
The breadth of what constitutes as "The Alien" has expanded with each entry, though, with additional interpretations/additions to the creature's mutable nature often drawing upon what came before and, in turn, carrying over and influencing future variants. The Queen in Aliens, the dog/ox-born Alien in Alien 3 and the wide array of implications that come along with it taking traits from its host, the Newborn in Alien: Resurrection, the Pathogen and its myriad of spawn in Prometheus, the Neomorphs in Alien: Covenant... all of this represents the creature we originally met in Alien in some alternate, but still directly related, form.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 05:25:32 AM
The whole point of David's spiel in Covenant is that the Alien isn't the pathogen - it's his invention, something new, if derivative. The Alien isn't a random, chaotic spawn like the Neomorphs or trilobytes or Deacons; it's David's precise, perfect organism.

I'm not, at any point, trying to convince anyone to agree with me. I'm not, at any point, saying I don't understand other people's take on the matter.

But I am genuinely surprised so many people seem to act like it's a difficult perspective to wrap their heads around.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 30, 2021, 05:30:50 AM
It's not a difficult concept to wrap your/my head around... it's simply that I don't agree.

It's alien.... That can mean anything not of earth... and the black goo allows that to be anything the writers want it to be, but it's still connected to Dan o'bannon's "alien" thanks to the prequels.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 06:51:21 AM
I mean that's one way Fox can get around any rights issues if the Predator situation doesn't resolve itself  :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 07:16:40 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 30, 2021, 02:42:56 AM
Unlike the Alien, the Black Goo is not cooked yet.

I wouldn't cook Black Goo. I bet the smell would be horrendous
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 30, 2021, 09:15:02 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 07:16:40 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 30, 2021, 02:42:56 AM
Unlike the Alien, the Black Goo is not cooked yet.

I wouldn't cook Black Goo. I bet the smell would be horrendous

Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 01:38:50 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Nov 29, 2021, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 28, 2021, 10:35:14 AM
The Covenant prequel book.
Oh. I didn't think that one was too bad. Hell, I might even prefer it to the film.

I think it's actually a really nice sci-fi novel. It just would have benefited from being it's own thing, frankly.

I wouldn't go that far personally. It just jumped a shark with the exploding sheep. It had some truly interesting concepts with the cult and the visions - I just wished they'd have tied it into the franchise more with them being some sort of transmission from the Engineers or some other alien species that had come in contact with the Aliens.

My problems weren't about it not including the Aliens - it could have been tied in more effectively with the other alien aspects of the franchise. But it was just a meh book for me. The cult, as interesting as they were, weren't particularly effect in their attempts. Walter was barely in it. The rest of the crew was barely in it. It didn't quite fit with the film, or the promotional material. And we all wanted David and Shaw on Paradise anyway.


Quote from: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 04:50:28 AM
O'Bannon liked the title for that reason, yes, but again, incredibly disingenuous to act like for 40 years you could've written about any alien organism and slapped the franchise branding on it and it would've been fine. The title always referred to the creature.

If it was a random alien, I'd perhaps see where you coming from a bit clearer, but it's not just any old random ET with Alien slapped on a cover. The Alien is related to the Pathogen, the Pathogen is related to the Engineers in some fashion or another. It's all still connected within the same story.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Nukiemorph on Nov 30, 2021, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
It just jumped a shark with the exploding sheep. It had some truly interesting concepts with the cult and the visions - I just wished they'd have tied it into the franchise more with them being some sort of transmission from the Engineers or some other alien species that had come in contact with the Aliens.
This is how I've always justified the psychics. I like to think it was a distress signal sent by the engineers on Planet 4 as David bombed them. Some humans are sensitive enough to pick up on this signal and they interpret it as a premonition of their own cities being overrun. The visions seemed vague enough for that, describing "black monsters flooding the streets" or something.

But I've probably put too much thought into it because the book was boring as hell anyway, and I don't remember any exploding sheep...
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: skhellter on Nov 30, 2021, 09:55:32 AM
keep psychics and telepathy away from Alien forever, please.

This isn't WH40K.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 30, 2021, 09:55:32 AM
keep psychics and telepathy away from Alien forever, please.

This isn't WH40K.

Been here since the original Alien 3! It's been a part of the series so long, I'm just very used to it. It's why I have no issue with it.

Quote from: Nukiemorph on Nov 30, 2021, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
It just jumped a shark with the exploding sheep. It had some truly interesting concepts with the cult and the visions - I just wished they'd have tied it into the franchise more with them being some sort of transmission from the Engineers or some other alien species that had come in contact with the Aliens.
This is how I've always justified the psychics. I like to think it was a distress signal sent by the engineers on Planet 4 as David bombed them. Some humans are sensitive enough to pick up on this signal and they interpret it as a premonition of their own cities being overrun. The visions seemed vague enough for that, describing "black monsters flooding the streets" or something.

It's how it is in my headcanon, but something like it should have actually been in the book IMHO.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 10:30:00 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
The Alien is related to the Pathogen, the Pathogen is related to the Engineers in some fashion or another. It's all still connected within the same story.
That, I've got no bones with. The semantics of "well it's just the word Alien so it can be whatever; it was never just about the creature", not so much.

There are lots of things connected within the universe that I like, that I would also feel cheated by if I picked up a book with Aliens on the title and saw that it focused solely on those elements. I just feel that if you're going to shift the primary threat away from the capital-A Alien and instead focus on the side elements you're agreeing with Scott that the beast itself is cooked and we might as well move on to something new without the baggage.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 11:18:26 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 30, 2021, 09:55:32 AM
keep psychics and telepathy away from Alien forever, please.

This isn't WH40K.

Been here since the original Alien 3! It's been a part of the series so long, I'm just very used to it. It's why I have no issue with it.

I just got excited that you also think that Runner was f**king with Golic's mind via telepathy ('cause that's a theory I subscribe to) ...

... but then I realised you were talking about DH comics
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 11:26:46 AM
Resurrection touched on the concept too.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 30, 2021, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 11:18:26 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 30, 2021, 09:55:32 AM
keep psychics and telepathy away from Alien forever, please.

This isn't WH40K.

Been here since the original Alien 3! It's been a part of the series so long, I'm just very used to it. It's why I have no issue with it.

I just got excited that you also think that Runner was f**king with Golic's mind via telepathy ('cause that's a theory I subscribe to) ...

... but then I realised you were talking about DH comics

Mind screw and creatures, huh? seems like a perfect job for Mr. Hawley.  8)

Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 30, 2021, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 06:51:21 AM
I mean that's one way Fox can get around any rights issues if the Predator situation doesn't resolve itself  :laugh:

Nah cuz the language there says "all derivative works" so they capture it all. For that, it's a question of whether a judge agrees or not...
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Nov 30, 2021, 01:57:31 PM
For me, the goo gets a boo.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 02:20:30 PM
But Goo is so unpredictable and interesting ! One can say it's like

Spoiler
Voodoo Magic ?  ;)
[close]
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Nov 30, 2021, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 02:20:30 PM
But Goo is so unpredictable and interesting ! One can say it's like

Spoiler
Voodoo Magic ?  ;)
[close]

Well I definitely like that type of Magic. ;D

But for me, the more Alien becomes less about the Aliens, the more this IP loses its identity and subsequently becomes less special... and starts feeling like run-of-the-mill clones of other movies with their infected zombies and grotesque Thing-like abominations.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 30, 2021, 03:34:04 PM
You can do it much better than Infiltrator,  if you can dispense with the Abominations and more random feeling stuff, the Neomorphs I think personally have so much potential.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 30, 2021, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
I just wished they'd have tied it into the franchise more with them being some sort of transmission from the Engineers or some other alien species that had come in contact with the Aliens.

My problems weren't about it not including the Aliens - it could have been tied in more effectively with the other alien aspects of the franchise. But it was just a meh book for me. The cult, as interesting as they were, weren't particularly effect in their attempts. Walter was barely in it. The rest of the crew was barely in it. It didn't quite fit with the film, or the promotional material. And we all wanted David and Shaw on Paradise anyway.

Oh, I meant "not a franchise tie-in at all and just be an original one off story in its own world" would have been a better use of the bones of that novel. Feels like it'd have been a decent if forgettable novel without the Alien stuff crammed in, but as is, it's a "meh" result.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Nov 30, 2021, 04:09:06 PM
Quote
The Alien is related to the Pathogen, the Pathogen is related to the Engineers in some fashion or another. It's all still connected within the same story.

Thank you Hicks!! This was what I was trying to say; you just articulated it far better than I did lol
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 07:58:25 PM
Voodoo and I finally found the thing we're in perfect agreement on :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 08:15:35 PM
That might be beginning of a beautiful friendship
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Anonymous on Dec 03, 2021, 09:39:15 PM
You want Aliens? I'll give you f**king Aliens.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 04, 2021, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: Anonymous on Dec 03, 2021, 09:39:15 PM
You want Aliens? I'll give you f**king Aliens.

Ridley? That you? Thanks for stopping by, I've been enjoying your The Last Duel/House of Gucci press tour! :D
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 04, 2021, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 04, 2021, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: Anonymous on Dec 03, 2021, 09:39:15 PM
You want Aliens? I'll give you f**king Aliens.

Ridley? That you? Thanks for stopping by, I've been enjoying your The Last Duel/House of Gucci press tour! :D

Ridley told me to tell you "Sir, f*** you, f*** you, thank you, f*** you, go f*** yourself, sorry go on"  :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 04, 2021, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 04, 2021, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 04, 2021, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: Anonymous on Dec 03, 2021, 09:39:15 PM
You want Aliens? I'll give you f**king Aliens.

Ridley? That you? Thanks for stopping by, I've been enjoying your The Last Duel/House of Gucci press tour! :D

Ridley told me to tell you "Sir, f*** you, f*** you, thank you, f*** you, go f*** yourself, sorry go on"  :laugh:

Thank you, Sir! Very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 04, 2021, 06:14:15 PM


Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: VeteranSergeant on Dec 07, 2021, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 30, 2021, 01:57:31 PM
For me, the goo gets a boo.

Quote from: Kradan on Nov 30, 2021, 02:20:30 PM
But Goo is so unpredictable

Macguffins usually are.


Quote from: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 09:37:04 PM
Also, probably the biggest fan of Covenant out there (ranks it as her number 1 Alien movie)

Oh my.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: felix on Mar 05, 2022, 10:47:01 AM
Cover is up!

https://bnccatalist.ca/ViewTitle.aspx?id=39707535
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 10:50:05 AM


Kinda funky but I like it, reminds me of this, early 2000s.

Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Miguel on Mar 05, 2022, 10:58:35 AM
I didn't expect that cover. Like it! :D
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
Higher resolution. I think this is fantastic, probably the best looking cover art we've received from Titan's time with Alien. Finally an illustrated cover! Reminds me of the old Bantam stuff. More of this please!

Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Mar 05, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
f**k yeah, Titan, that's the way to go ! Hopefully they have big faith in that book if they go out of their way with such cover


Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
I think this is fantastic, probably the best looking cover art we've received from Titan's time with Alien

I don't understand where "probably" part comes from. Into Charybdis and Infiltrator may had a decent enough covers but this blew both of them right out of f**king water
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Mar 05, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
A good cover without any conial marine alien models with actual art color me surpise
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 05, 2022, 12:15:48 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 11:23:42 AMHigher resolution. I think this is fantastic, probably the best looking cover art we've received from Titan's time with Alien. Finally an illustrated cover! Reminds me of the old Bantam stuff. More of this please!

It's absolutely their best cover imo, but to be fair the only other one I've ever thought was any good was Into Charybdis.

Their others don't even come close.

Hopefully this means they've finally got the message about shit covers :laugh:
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: SpaceKase on Mar 05, 2022, 12:17:55 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
Higher resolution. I think this is fantastic, probably the best looking cover art we've received from Titan's time with Alien. Finally an illustrated cover! Reminds me of the old Bantam stuff. More of this please!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91cAQ8zLIIL.jpg

They forgot to put Clara's name on the cover, someone needs to give them a head's up before that one goes out.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 05, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
I don't understand where "probably" part comes from. Into Charybdis and Infiltrator may had a decent enough covers but this blew both of them right out of f**king water

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 05, 2022, 12:15:48 PM
It's absolutely their best cover imo, but to be fair the only other one I've ever thought was any good was Into Charybdis.

Their others don't even come close.

Hopefully this means they've finally got the message about shit covers :laugh:

Probably Absolutely.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 05, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
I'm going to be the odd man out here and say I prefer the Into Charybdis cover. But this is great and I love original illustrated art.

Thank you for listening Titan and please keep it up!

Is that Olivia Shipp with Zula on the cover?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Mar 05, 2022, 02:28:18 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
Higher resolution. I think this is fantastic, probably the best looking cover art we've received from Titan's time with Alien. Finally an illustrated cover! Reminds me of the old Bantam stuff. More of this please!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91cAQ8zLIIL.jpg

Into charybdis lol
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 02:32:32 PM
Definitely picking this up for the Neomorphs though
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Mar 05, 2022, 02:34:04 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 05, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
I'm going to be the odd man out here and say I prefer the Into Charybdis cover. But this is great and I love original illustrated art.

Thank you for listening Titan and please keep it up!

Is that Olivia Shipp with Zula on the cover?

I thought of Olivia as well. Also, she kinda reminds me of the lead female Colonial Marine from Life & Death comics
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2022, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 05, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
Thank you for listening Titan and please keep it up!

Here, here!

QuoteIs that Olivia Shipp with Zula on the cover?

I reckon so! We've not seen her in the synopsis, but we know they've been hanging out. Wonder where we're looking timeline-wise here. And it looks like her.


Quote from: Engineer on Mar 05, 2022, 02:28:18 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
Higher resolution. I think this is fantastic, probably the best looking cover art we've received from Titan's time with Alien. Finally an illustrated cover! Reminds me of the old Bantam stuff. More of this please!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91cAQ8zLIIL.jpg

Into charybdis lol

I prefer this cover over Charybdis myself.


Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 02:32:32 PM
Definitely picking this up for the Neomorphs though

Yeah, I'm definitely intrigued by that too!
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Engineer on Mar 05, 2022, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2022, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 05, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
Thank you for listening Titan and please keep it up!

Here, here!

QuoteIs that Olivia Shipp with Zula on the cover?

I reckon so! We've not seen her in the synopsis, but we know they've been hanging out. Wonder where we're looking timeline-wise here. And it looks like her.


Quote from: Engineer on Mar 05, 2022, 02:28:18 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 05, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
Higher resolution. I think this is fantastic, probably the best looking cover art we've received from Titan's time with Alien. Finally an illustrated cover! Reminds me of the old Bantam stuff. More of this please!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91cAQ8zLIIL.jpg

Into charybdis lol

I prefer this cover over Charybdis myself.


Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 02:32:32 PM
Definitely picking this up for the Neomorphs though

Yeah, I'm definitely intrigued by that too!

Fair enough. I like this one a lot but I still like the cover of into charybdis the best so far.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: 426Buddy on Mar 05, 2022, 07:55:00 PM
I agree, Charybdis cover just has a classy style to it that I like. Not that there is anything wrong with this, this is better than all the rest combined.

Pretty cool it sounds like Shipp and Zula are heading a unit called the Jackals. I'm liking the sound of this story.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 08:02:44 PM
Yeah this cover feels very videogame, but not in a bad way, in a good one.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 05, 2022, 08:24:07 PM
I don't do the books any more, but red Neomorphs are cool as f**k.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 08:34:44 PM
I think that's just the lighting, them being translucent reflecting the red and purple light surrounding, but I may be completely incorrect.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 05, 2022, 08:51:04 PM
They absolutely read as conveying a translucent red to me. We'll see if the book mentions anything about that I guess.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 09:36:40 PM


I think this' where the pink and red's derived from. Either way, the mouth's completely incorrect, yet again. They have given it the human Colin Shulver and or Nico Fernandez style jaw instead of the pharyngeal jaw we see in the film.

Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 05, 2022, 09:58:38 PM
I'm still seeing them as overtly red, considering the way the muzzle flare is painted as reflecting off parts with actual orange tones, no real impact from the blue background, and the only white being similarly placed and proportioned on the humans gear, I assume to imply lightning.

Having said that, it's probably simply an artistic choice. I still like it.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 10:08:48 PM
That's why it feels refreshingly oldschool, in promo art Aliens used to be often given a green hue irrespective of their surroundings, this feels like that but with the Neomorph.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Spell check on Mar 06, 2022, 10:38:45 AM
*Inferno's Fall, not Inferno Falls.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kimarhi on Mar 06, 2022, 03:35:49 PM
The cover reminds me of the ol bantam novel colors.


Old Skool.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Ultramorph on Mar 06, 2022, 05:52:02 PM
I love the cover. It's really cool to have the Neomorphs back.

I'm so far behind on the novels, do we know the context of why the Engineers are bombing planets with the black goo?
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 06, 2022, 06:33:08 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 06, 2022, 03:35:49 PM
The cover reminds me of the ol bantam novel colors.


Old Skool.

Yeah, Genocide, Female War era.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Stitch on Mar 06, 2022, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 05, 2022, 09:58:38 PM
I'm still seeing them as overtly red, considering the way the muzzle flare is painted as reflecting off parts with actual orange tones, no real impact from the blue background, and the only white being similarly placed and proportioned on the humans gear, I assume to imply lightning.

Having said that, it's probably simply an artistic choice. I still like it.
I see red, too
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 06:43:29 PM
Heads are too pointy and lack the curve and pronounced lobe to be straight up Neomorphs


Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 10:08:48 PM
That's why it feels refreshingly oldschool, in promo art Aliens used to be often given a green hue irrespective of their surroundings, this feels like that but with the Neomorph.

I like that take
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: [cancerblack] on Mar 06, 2022, 06:47:05 PM
I think all the changes are just artistic license. They also have Alien 3 mouths.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 06, 2022, 07:25:26 PM
I've always kind of interpreted the Neos as having a less defined form than the proper Alien anyways. They're less refined, a bit lumpy, and can vary in details like the paintings of the head, etc.
Title: Re: Aliens - Inferno Falls
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 06, 2022, 09:33:47 PM
Do we know who did the cover? The more I look at it the more I get some Den Beauvais vibes.

I don't think it is him, but it definitely recalls his work if you ask me.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 07, 2022, 09:09:27 AM
Not yet. Trying to find out who it was.

But I totally love it too. It's a huge step in the right direction, and I do like it more than Charbydis' cover. It's not giving me complete Bantam vibes, but it's just all around a genuinely good piece of artwork and far exceeds the photoshop bashes that the interns have been cranking out. I really hope that Titan continue this.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: VincentVegaFFF on Mar 07, 2022, 11:45:21 PM
Nice cover!
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Alex86UK on Mar 08, 2022, 05:49:02 AM
Don't Olivia and Zula live in different times?
Zula was in comics with Amanda (2130s)
Olivia is a Colonel in Fireteam Elite, set in 2202

Unless they bring cryosleep into it.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 08, 2022, 08:23:36 AM
Yeah, they're completely different generations. Zula would be 40 when Olivia was born. SM's timeline dates Rescue - the last time we saw Zula? - as 2145, a good decade before Olivia is born too. So yeah, I imagine they'd have to bring in some cryosleep shenanigans to keep them reasonably close in age. And it's the Alien series so that's not out of left-field.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: JohnK on Mar 08, 2022, 10:03:12 AM
The artist is Alex Ronald!
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Prez on Mar 08, 2022, 11:40:51 AM
Only realised that Clara is co-writing this. Well done and congrats. Looking forward to it.

That cover is definite Den B vibes about it as others have mentioned.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: TheBATMAN on Mar 08, 2022, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: Alex86UK on Mar 08, 2022, 05:49:02 AM
Don't Olivia and Zula live in different times?
Zula was in comics with Amanda (2130s)
Olivia is a Colonel in Fireteam Elite, set in 2202

Unless they bring cryosleep into it.

Indeed. Seems the logical way to make it work. Not sure why Zula would be asleep for so long though. Hope they are not going down some kind of consciousness transfer into a new body shit the TV series is looking at.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 08, 2022, 11:26:36 PM
Love this cover art!

Quote from: Ultramorph on Mar 06, 2022, 05:52:02 PM
I love the cover. It's really cool to have the Neomorphs back.

I'm so far behind on the novels, do we know the context of why the Engineers are bombing planets with the black goo?

It's touched on in the RPG in both the "Destroyer of Worlds" and the "Colonial Marines: Operations Manual" storylines, which are then referenced in "Fireteam Elite". However it's still framed as a mystery somewhat.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 09, 2022, 02:16:40 PM
Quote from: JohnK on Mar 08, 2022, 10:03:12 AM
The artist is Alex Ronald!

This has been confirmed. You can find more of Alex's work here - https://www.instagram.com/comicartlex/?hl=en

Looks like he's done work for Titan's comics in the past.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 16, 2022, 05:45:59 PM
That's cool.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 05, 2022, 12:40:31 PM
A blog post from Philippa talking about Inferno: https://www.pjballantine.com/2022/03/31/alien-infernos-fall/
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 05, 2022, 12:45:10 PM
Very exciting, just in time for my birthday, I eagerly look forward to this.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Adamantiumhip on Apr 05, 2022, 08:51:24 PM
Wait when are engineers bombing planets with black goo?

I dont remember that in fireteam or previous novels?
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 05, 2022, 09:18:10 PM
It's from the RPG.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Adamantiumhip on Apr 06, 2022, 07:50:10 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 05, 2022, 09:18:10 PM
It's from the RPG.

So nothing in any other media? I dont play the rpg. Its a shame , its an odd way to add to lore with a niche genre
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 06, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I think Titan announced they are working in conjunction with the RPG and that the next several novels will have tie-in scenarios with the RPG.

I dont play it myself either but the lore is quite excellent.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 06, 2022, 08:25:34 AM
I'm sure it'll be addressed within the book.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 06, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I think Titan announced they are working in conjunction with the RPG and that the next several novels will have tie-in scenarios with the RPG.

I dont play it myself either but the lore is quite excellent.

Is there a way to read the lore without having to play the RPG?
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Engineer on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 06, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I think Titan announced they are working in conjunction with the RPG and that the next several novels will have tie-in scenarios with the RPG.

I dont play it myself either but the lore is quite excellent.

Is there a way to read the lore without having to play the RPG?

You could read through the rpg book
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 11:00:43 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 06, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I think Titan announced they are working in conjunction with the RPG and that the next several novels will have tie-in scenarios with the RPG.

I dont play it myself either but the lore is quite excellent.

Is there a way to read the lore without having to play the RPG?

You could read through the rpg book

But does that read more like a users manual or actual book?
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Stitch on Apr 07, 2022, 01:54:18 AM
Quote from: Engineer on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 06, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I think Titan announced they are working in conjunction with the RPG and that the next several novels will have tie-in scenarios with the RPG.

I dont play it myself either but the lore is quite excellent.

Is there a way to read the lore without having to play the RPG?

You could read through the rpg book
I have the RPG, but I'm waiting for friends to become available to go through the scenarios. I don't want to spoil the game by reading it beforehand.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 07, 2022, 07:21:31 AM
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 11:00:43 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 06, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I think Titan announced they are working in conjunction with the RPG and that the next several novels will have tie-in scenarios with the RPG.

I dont play it myself either but the lore is quite excellent.

Is there a way to read the lore without having to play the RPG?

You could read through the rpg book

But does that read more like a users manual or actual book?

It does although there is a timeline and universe overview then chapters at the end which cover the lore in depth. From memory its a good 100 pages of what is a 300 page book. Worth picking up if you can find a cheap second hand copy perhaps?
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Kailem on Apr 08, 2022, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Apr 07, 2022, 01:54:18 AM
Quote from: Engineer on Apr 06, 2022, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Apr 06, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 06, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
I think Titan announced they are working in conjunction with the RPG and that the next several novels will have tie-in scenarios with the RPG.

I dont play it myself either but the lore is quite excellent.

Is there a way to read the lore without having to play the RPG?

You could read through the rpg book
I have the RPG, but I'm waiting for friends to become available to go through the scenarios. I don't want to spoil the game by reading it beforehand.

Unless you're going to be the one running the game, you should definitely give the core rules book at least somewhat of a readthrough beforehand just to get yourself familiar with the rules and systems in play, since there are quite a lot of things you need to keep track of. It's also divided up into a "player's" and "game mother's" sections as well, so you can easily avoid any parts you think might spoil anything for you.

To be honest though as far as the core rules go, it's only really the included scenario "Hope's Last Day" that you'd want to completely avoid (again, unless you're going to be the one running it), and that's the very last thing in the book so it's easy not to read. A lot of the lore sections are in the "game mother" part of the book though, and detail the various governments, corporations and regions of space that might end up playing some part in your adventures, but they don't contain any actual spoilers. They're more there for potential inspiration for GM's to turn into homebrew scenarios and campaigns.

Similarly, the Colonial Marines Operations Manual has "player" and "GM" sections, and in that case much of the lore and timeline stuff about their creation and the battles they've fought over the years is in the player section. I know there's more stuff in the GM part of that book, but I've been avoiding that in hopes that one day we might get to play through the Marine campaign.

The cinematic scenarios though (Chariot of the Gods, Destroy of Worlds and Heart of Darkness) you should avoid reading at all unless you're planning on running them, as they're all about dem spoilers.

But yeah, even if you don't think you might actually end up playing it, the rpg is a fantastic source of lore and info, and by far the most cohesive and expansive tome on the Alien universe as a whole to date. Definitely worth checking out if you're a fan of the world-building side of things.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: felix on Jun 23, 2022, 03:28:16 AM
Delayed till August it seems.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 18, 2022, 07:54:08 AM
I'm about 140 pages in and I'm happy to say I'm really enjoying it so far. A lot of strong and interesting world and character building going on.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 25, 2022, 07:41:47 AM
I'm about 60 pages off the end of the book. I'm continuing to really enjoy it. Very well written, the characters are great - I'm especially liking Mae and the Knot group - and the world-building is really solid too. But I've hit a point that's confused regarding the creatures.

Spoiler
When the Juggernaught showed up and dropped it's cargo, I had taken away that it was mutating the colonists into Neomorphs. I'd been a little unsure of that in the first place as despite David saying the black goo did mutate the victims as well as killing, the Neomorphs seemed to have been quite specific in regards to how they developed. But we also saw Neomorphic creatures in David's bestiary so I rolled with it.

But it seems the books now depicting the mutated wild-life as being more XX121 in appearance, with a creature that seemed to resemble the sharks from Fire and Stone. Obviously Fire and Stone depicted the whole eco-system developing into more Alien-like creatures than Neomorphic like creatures, but the presence of both feels like a clash to me.
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Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Protomorph on Jul 27, 2022, 01:00:02 PM
Where does this land in the chronology of the titan books?

Sorry if i've missed this already.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 27, 2022, 04:15:22 PM
How disappointing.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Wweyland on Jul 27, 2022, 09:31:29 PM
Any connections with Fireteam Elite in this?
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Jul 28, 2022, 06:04:04 AM
Quote from: Protomorph on Jul 27, 2022, 01:00:02 PMWhere does this land in the chronology of the titan books?

Sorry if i've missed this already.

I had the impression it takes place some time after Colony War. I already listened to the audiobook, and I like it a lot. There were some things I didn't like, but the characters and world building were what made this.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2022, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 27, 2022, 09:31:29 PMAny connections with Fireteam Elite in this?

In some fashion.

Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Jul 28, 2022, 06:04:04 AM
Quote from: Protomorph on Jul 27, 2022, 01:00:02 PMWhere does this land in the chronology of the titan books?

Sorry if i've missed this already.

I had the impression it takes place some time after Colony War.

It's definitely after Colony War. No doubt there. Not sure on how long exactly.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Jul 28, 2022, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2022, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 27, 2022, 09:31:29 PMAny connections with Fireteam Elite in this?

In some fashion.

Quote from: xShadowFoxX on Jul 28, 2022, 06:04:04 AM
Quote from: Protomorph on Jul 27, 2022, 01:00:02 PMWhere does this land in the chronology of the titan books?

Sorry if i've missed this already.

I had the impression it takes place some time after Colony War.

It's definitely after Colony War. No doubt there. Not sure on how long exactly.

I figured as much because it mentioned that Davis was a dog unless I heard something else, and that war between the colonies was still going on.. or it was.. it's interesting that the year wasn't specified because for all we know, it kinda felt like the war between the colonies was over.. unless I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2022, 10:11:55 AM
The Colony War really wasn't that much of a focus in the book at all. But iirc it was mentioned.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: VN1X on Jul 28, 2022, 10:15:40 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 27, 2022, 04:15:22 PMHow disappointing.
Oh you didn't like it or?
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 28, 2022, 10:35:24 AM
I don't like Fire and Stone, so hearing it goes that direction's a major turn off.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Jul 28, 2022, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 28, 2022, 10:35:24 AMI don't like Fire and Stone, so hearing it goes that direction's a major turn off.

I wasn't a fan of those particular elements in the book as well but I enjoyed it regardless. It just had a lot of nice imagery, particularly the attack on the colony, which was essentially chaos and the Engineer ruins were a nice touch I thought.

I can't help but also feel that the last couple of books are building up to a major event and after reading this one, it's starting to feel that "maybe" it's picking up where Covenant left off? A bit of a stretch, I know.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2022, 11:21:48 AM
I think it's definitely heading in that direction. Seemed to be setting up

Spoiler
David's return.
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Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 03, 2022, 01:34:14 PM
So loving the world building in this here, apart from "Food Wars" being a laugh out loud stupid name for absolutely anything, perhaps a bit overly saccharine and lots of characters to grapple with, but I am enjoying it so far anyway and loving the setting and the integration with current continuity.

Not a fan of the implication of Sean Fifield being the inventor of the PUPs honestly, that man could not invent a sandwich frankly.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 03, 2022, 05:29:53 PM
I have this pre-ordered, quite looking forward to it as it seems like what I've been wanting the last 10 year since Prometheus came out.

I've been so out of the loop the last few years, what's even going on with continuity now? Are the novels and Marvel stuff separate or are they referencing each other?
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 03, 2022, 05:42:48 PM
It is very much integrated with Alien Isolation, the last era of Dark Horse Aliens Comics like Dead Orbit and Dust To Dust and particularly the ones featuring Zula Hendricks and the recent batch of the Alien Titan Books Novels, Aliens Fireteam Elite and also Alien The RPG.

The Marvel stuff does not impact anything as yet thankfully.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Nelostic on Aug 09, 2022, 03:45:05 PM
Spoiler
Neomorph is mutant of human?
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Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 10, 2022, 05:47:11 AM
This was released officially yesterday!
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Stitch on Aug 10, 2022, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 10, 2022, 05:47:11 AMThis was released officially yesterday!
Ordered it last night. Will be arriving later today.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Kradan on Aug 10, 2022, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 03, 2022, 01:34:14 PMNot a fan of the implication of Sean Fifield being the inventor of the PUPs honestly, that man could not invent a sandwich frankly.

He invented tobacco tho !

Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: SiL on Aug 10, 2022, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 03, 2022, 01:34:14 PMNot a fan of the implication of Sean Fifield being the inventor of the PUPs honestly, that man could not invent a sandwich frankly.
That implication was already in Prometheus.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: HuDaFuK on Aug 10, 2022, 06:06:18 PM
Completely off-topic, but:

Quote from: SiL on Aug 10, 2022, 10:53:55 AMOn a scale of 1 to "complaining about Prey being woke", how fragile is your masculinity?

Lol.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Wompdonkey on Aug 11, 2022, 10:53:35 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 03, 2022, 05:29:53 PMI have this pre-ordered, quite looking forward to it as it seems like what I've been wanting the last 10 year since Prometheus came out.

I've been so out of the loop the last few years, what's even going on with continuity now? Are the novels and Marvel stuff separate or are they referencing each other?


The novels from Titan do reference each other. The comics so far haven't been well received so I'm guessing they aren't being treated as canon.


Quote from: Kradan on Aug 10, 2022, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 03, 2022, 01:34:14 PMNot a fan of the implication of Sean Fifield being the inventor of the PUPs honestly, that man could not invent a sandwich frankly.

He invented tobacco tho !

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That's weed
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Wompdonkey on Aug 12, 2022, 02:35:14 AM


Quote from: Protomorph on Jul 27, 2022, 01:00:02 PMWhere does this land in the chronology of the titan books?

Sorry if i've missed this already.

It takes place after all the books released by Titan thus far, not counting Phalanx which stands alone in its continuity.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Wompdonkey on Aug 12, 2022, 10:08:51 PM
Im just over halfway through the book. I really wanted to like this book, but so far it is a whole lot of nothing. I don't care about the main characters in The Knot, like at all. The main character of this book is a grandma, which doesn't interest me in the slightest. At the risk of sounding like an asshole/idiot, the Author put too much of herself into this book and all the characters in the Knot. Corporal Hicks gave Colony War the lowest score possible because of that. It isn't as distracting in this book as it was Colony War, but I actually liked the characters in that book more than this.

 I like Zula but she hasn't done anything worthwhile in the book at all. She isn't even a POV character. Instead we have
Spoiler
Mae, the "daughter" of Zula and Davis
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. Who also hasn't done enough to warrant the few POV chapters she's gotten.

Like I said, Im only halfway through so maybe the last half actually gives me something to enjoy. But so far, Im just bored.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 13, 2022, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Wompdonkey on Yesterday at 10:08:51 PMCorporal Hicks gave Colony War the lowest score possible because of that.

I disliked Colony War because it was a parody, filled with caricatures. Putting his own views into the book wasn't a problem I had, it was how he handled it. Authors drawing from their own lives, interests and experiences into books isn't new - "write what you know". Personally, I actually loved the characters in this. I found this unique family dynamic really interesting.
Title: Re: Alien - Inferno's Fall
Post by: Wompdonkey on Aug 13, 2022, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Today at 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Wompdonkey on Yesterday at 10:08:51 PMCorporal Hicks gave Colony War the lowest score possible because of that.

I disliked Colony War because it was a parody, filled with caricatures. Putting his own views into the book wasn't a problem I had, it was how he handled it. Authors drawing from their own lives, interests and experiences into books isn't new - "write what you know". Personally, I actually loved the characters in this. I found this unique family dynamic really interesting.

So after getting damn near close to the end, my biggest problem with this book is nothing happens "on screen" if that makes sense. The action is always heard, seen from a distance, or only mentioned after the fact. Im going to finish it later today, but that is my biggest gripe. It doesn't help that I'm not nearly as invested in the characters.

We can't compare everything to what Alex White did, but this book doesn't have the tension or horror of a good Alien book. The detail given for the action doesn't tell me enough to feel any tension because what little action has happened so far is over right as it gets good because the character dies.