just been on gearbox forums and this is whats happening on his twitter..
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/302296233677053952
Uh, first time i would like to own a Twitter account, just to ask:
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...though i guess he won't answer many questions, busy blocking haters :laugh:
But i guess the answer would be:
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Randy. That lying sack of... ahhh screw it. I have no idea how he sleeps at night. If I created something with all the promises he dished out and let all the fans / purchasers down like that, I personally would not be able to sleep for weeks.
I guess he doesn't care, he knew what he sold so why should he feel guilty?
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Feb 15, 2013, 03:53:43 PM
I guess he doesn't care, he knew what he sold so why should he feel guilty?
Yeah. That's true.
Just sent him this http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l25h11 (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l25h11)
Quote@DuvalMagic the license is for Aliens so why did the xenos look like the ones in AVP? They look as far from what Giger created as a Fiat Punto is from a Ferrari F40. ..actually they kinda look like Kenner toys. You went full Kenner. Never go full Kenner.
I hope he blocks me. :laugh:
The whole shituation really makes me just feel dirty. :-\ Pitchford deserves most of the flak he's getting, but it's hard to watch nevertheless. The internet can really streamline the hate process!
Dude's whole life has to be chaos right now.
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 15, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
The whole shituation really makes me just feel dirty. :-\ Pitchford deserves most of the flak he's getting, but it's hard to watch nevertheless. The internet can really streamline the hate process!
Dude's whole life has to be chaos right now.
You reap what you sow. He shat out a f**king disaster, now it's the fans turn to shit on him back.
Dude has tons of cash. He'll get over it on his next trip to the bahamas. :laugh:
If the rumours end up being true and SEGA goes forward with a lawsuit... then he's screwed. But i doubt that.
"Your mother was a snowblower!"
:laugh:
Quote from: Blacklabel on Feb 15, 2013, 04:56:04 PMIf the rumours end up being true and SEGA goes forward with a lawsuit... then he's screwed. But i doubt that.
Really? Well now, time to play the straight guy for once, Sega.
It's 99% probably just wishful thinking on the part of whoever started the rumour. ;)
Why would sega sue him??
LOL!! today is a hilarious day on the forums.
I love Borderlands 2 but man.. Gearbox shit all over this ACM game and then tossed it to the dogs.. (us)... -_-
What's next? He closes his twitter?
He still hasn't given us an explanation as to WTF went wrong with this game and why E3 demos differ so much from the final (turd) product we all got now.
Quote from: AcidGlow on Feb 15, 2013, 05:13:02 PM
LOL!! today is a hilarious day on the forums.
I love Borderlands 2 but man.. Gearbox shit all over this ACM game and then tossed it to the dogs.. (us)... -_-
What's next? He closes his twitter?
He still hasn't given us an explanation as to WTF went wrong with this game and why E3 demos differ so much from the final (turd) product we all got now.
Acid, I'm thinking at this point there won't be any explanations from Randy. We've been there with Sega/Rebellion, so we know what's coming.
Dan Slott and Pitchford should get married.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 15, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
Dan Slott and Pitchford should get married.
Please not. They could produce children. More failure!!
Quote from: locusta on Feb 15, 2013, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 15, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
Dan Slott and Pitchford should get married.
Please not. They could produce children. More failure!!
Oh shit, I didn't realize that!!! Randy, Slott...DON'T GET MARRIED!!!
This whole things consumed a week already. Just decided to trundle over to the Ubisoft forums and its madness over there too regarding the decision to delay Rayman: Legends on the Wii U til Sept. while it goes multiplat.
Theres a very strange trend happening with game distribution this year so far.
A liar is back,lets insult him
He rather brought this stuff on himself but it's still hard to watch.
Only morons attack devs without giving them a chance to fix things. While its true this games had a year to do it right - Six years if you consider how often its stopped and started.
It can't be ignored that the final products only been out a week.
Some things in this game can never be fixed. The story is top of that list. Afterall theres no chance that the devs have an alternative more engaging story in thier back pockets is there.
Practically anything else though can be fixed, wrapped or overwritten.
Kinda funny how this guy was going on and on at DICE about how he understood gamers and the psychology of gaming and percieved fulfillment and just how good he was at fooling gamers into having a good time. But his big trick didnt work and now he is not only a laughing stock but he cant even tweet in peace. Good. He deserves every tomato thrown at him.
This dude should stick to his Diablo clones and quit pretending he is clever.
Quote from: AcidGlow on Feb 15, 2013, 05:13:02 PM
Gearbox shit all over this ACM game and then tossed it to the dogs.. (us)... -_-
Don't insult the dogs man. They don't wanna eat this shit. Say the "boilers" or the "spitters", its more appropriate ;)
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 15, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
Dan Slott and Pitchford should get married.
Uwe Boll + Randy Pitchford
http://kotaku.com/5984068/how-aliens-colonial-marines-fell-apart (http://kotaku.com/5984068/how-aliens-colonial-marines-fell-apart)
Hmm...
Quote from: AcidGlow on Feb 15, 2013, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 15, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
Dan Slott and Pitchford should get married.
Uwe Boll + Randy Pitchford
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Omg, you're so f**king right about this one.
Quote from: Paladinrja on Feb 15, 2013, 08:20:34 PM
Only morons attack devs without giving them a chance to fix things. While its true this games had a year to do it right - Six years if you consider how often its stopped and started.
It can't be ignored that the final products only been out a week.
Some things in this game can never be fixed. The story is top of that list. Afterall theres no chance that the devs have an alternative more engaging story in thier back pockets is there.
Practically anything else though can be fixed, wrapped or overwritten.
Everyone is so outraged, they kind of forgot about the story DLC that was already talked about, wasn't it? I'm sure they can pull a Mass Effect 3, and hell it may even make up for the campaign if they shape it up with some mondo patches and create a really tight, Aliens-style DLC that gives players more of what they wanted in a better package.
Maybe that's what they meant to do through Hicks' famous line of non-story and Bishops comments....
Epic Rap Battle of History:
Randy Pitchford vs...
Uwe Boll
Peter Molyneux
Joseph Goebbels
Baron Münchhausen
Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf
...
...
...
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Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Feb 15, 2013, 08:47:29 PM
Epic Rap Battle of History:
Randy Pitchford vs...
Uwe Boll
Peter Molyneux
Joseph Goebbels
Baron Münchhausen
Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf
...
...
...
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg
:laugh:
Fund it.Baron Munchausen, AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Absolutely Hilarious! I laughed out loud!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws)
Oh I think he does understand gamer mentality and the industry quite well. You'd have to be completely chaotic to consider otherwise. At the end of the day, we'll learn alot more conclusively as to what this was really all about depending on the manner and effectiveness of the overall repair job.
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/302495676426747904
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2013, 10:16:54 PM
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/302495676426747904
Thanks as always for bringing news Ikarop!
I guess people are going to over react to this.
And IMO they are right. :D
Doh, he is trolling :-[
Randy Pitchforks
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Lynchmob.
What's wrong with the guy? Doesn't seem to have any kind of remorse at all. Doesn't even seem interested in explaining anything.
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 15, 2013, 10:19:54 PM
What's wrong with the guy? Doesn't seem to have any kind of remorse at all. Doesn't even seem interested in explaining anything.
Ok, at the risk of sounding apologetic in this, I have to say - wouldn't it depend on whether or not he has something to say?
I know that for myself, apologies mean f**k all and I'd rather he didn't talk shit anymore but actually had something to say - like how he's gonna fix this game, in real terms everyone can understand.
I feel bad for him.
Quote from: bobby brown on Feb 15, 2013, 10:38:03 PM
I feel bad for him.
I kinda do to some extent but he really did bring this on himself.
Quote from: bobby brown on Feb 15, 2013, 10:38:03 PM
I feel bad for him.
Yeah, i have nothing aginst the guy, im just pissed that for over a year we were shown how awsome the game was going to be, and then on release we find out its a steaming pile of shit.
They should have shown us what the game was realy like, i'd still have bought it, just not the colectors edition :laugh:
Don't feel bad for him, I doubt this bothers him at all. Think of him as someone like Cartman from South Park. He lies all the time, and he thinks he is awesome. No matter how many times people tell him he's not.
Do you think he's sorry he's got peoples money? If he was sorry, he would apologise, and until he does he deserves all the hate he gets.
I'm thinking 'bout buying the game just to make a Marine Randy skin...would fit perfectly into Aliens as well.
You know, this guy in the dropship that never stops talking...until someone shouts "Randy, shut the f*ck up!" He would be that guy that builds the fire and sings a couple of songs while everything around would go to hell. He would even sell a vacuum cleaner to the Alien Queen.
Randy is a tough case for me. I want to believe that there really is a guy in charge who is such a fan of the series as I am. The kind of guy who I could sit with and just talk the nuances and details of the Alien universe. Like we do around here with every facet of the franchise...
...But he pulled that same kind of schtick with Duke Nukem Forever. "We can't let the Duke die... For the fans!" Ya know. Those were his words! So he's making this a bit of a habit.
Personally I just can't believe how much BS he said about this game before release. Did the same thing with Duke.
And now he's acting the persecuted victim on Twitter. What a coward.
Why, whadid he do now? last I read he had this msg up saying personal attacks and threats would be banned. Is it sill that?
Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you Randy, I'm not listening to anything he says again when its about fans and giving a good quality game.
I'm just curious as to whether or not we'll even get an acknowledgement from anyone in charge, anywhere, of the game's critical f**king failure and obvious mishandling.
I'm still having a lot of fun with the damn thing, but if we don't even get a simple "well, some mistakes were made" then we've taken this corporate-consumer relationship to a new and terrifying level.
Terrifying for the corporations, I mean. ;)
Funny thing, they don't even have to come out and say they f**ked up. You can easily be political about it, especially in light of Sega not allowing any more delays and the studio-swapping and game rewrites. They've already got preloaded excuses, just have to man up and salvage something by acknowledging that your customers and the industry aren't oblivious morons.
I just don't understand why a fan of the series that Randy appears to be would put his face and name all over this title, for months on end, and not only promote it, but hit every Aliens fans hot red buttons and claim it's going to be the goddamned end-all holy grail milestone to Aliens perfection that we've been waiting for for a goddamned decade.
He has to be interested in salvaging his credibility, at least? Or reconnecting with his customers, or something.
I mean, are they just going to keep quiet and try and ride on the success of Borderlands? That's no way to plan for the future of any company.. rather self-destructive behavior, sacrificing long term credibility and customers for short-term massive gains (pre-orders, woot!) f**king psychotic Sega/Fox logic rat thar..
Perfect scene for a voiceover:
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And btw, the way he acts...he is more a WY fan than an Alien fan :D
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 15, 2013, 11:34:44 PM
I'm just curious as to whether or not we'll even get an acknowledgement from anyone in charge, anywhere, of the game's critical f**king failure and obvious mishandling.
I'm still having a lot of fun with the damn thing, but if we don't even get a simple "well, some mistakes were made" then we've taken this corporate-consumer relationship to a new and terrifying level.
Terrifying for the corporations, I mean. ;)
Funny thing, they don't even have to come out and say they f**ked up. You can easily be political about it, especially in light of Sega not allowing any more delays and the studio-swapping and game rewrites. They've already got preloaded excuses, just have to man up and salvage something by acknowledging that your customers and the industry aren't oblivious morons.
I just don't understand why a fan of the series that Randy appears to be would put his face and name all over this title, for months on end, and not only promote it, but hit every Aliens fans hot red buttons and claim it's going to be the goddamned end-all holy grail milestone to Aliens perfection that we've been waiting for for a goddamned decade.
He has to be interested in salvaging his credibility, at least? Or reconnecting with his customers, or something.
I mean, are they just going to keep quiet and try and ride on the success of Borderlands? That's no way to plan for the future of any company.. rather self-destructive behavior, sacrificing long term credibility and customers for short-term massive gains (pre-orders, woot!) f**king psychotic Sega/Fox logic rat thar..
I like this post.
I dunno, he seems like a good enough dude. If he came to my pub and put a dollar down, I'd still play pool with him.
I think that when all the ambient noise dies down he probably will provide an explanation. At the moment though, theres a few coo-coo's on the forums doing shit like "I live just down the road from them, might go down there" and some dumb f**k escalates it by trying to warn him off so he replies "I dunno man, I'm a pretty big guy, not much can stop me until the cops get there I can have my way"
I dunno, sound like a receptive crowd to you? - I mean the question sincerely.
I wasn't in the A:CM community forum long, but they had a nice little gathering there for a long time. Feel sorry for them.
Every f**kwit that comes into the forums just wants to trash the place coz they can, the gripes are well and truelly doccumented.
In comparison, I went to the Ubisoft forums to see what all the fuss there was over the new Rayman game. Every single poster spewing vitriol and voting with thier wallets providing e-reciept cancellations are in one nice neat huge thread.
The A:CM forum looks like a f**king home invasion. Just wanna throw a detpak inthere and see who comes out. haha
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 15, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
Randy is a tough case for me. I want to believe that there really is a guy in charge who is such a fan of the series as I am. The kind of guy who I could sit with and just talk the nuances and details of the Alien universe. Like we do around here with every facet of the franchise...
...But he pulled that same kind of schtick with Duke Nukem Forever. "We can't let the Duke die... For the fans!" Ya know. Those were his words! So he's making this a bit of a habit.
It's marketing speak, he's done his job fantastically in what we used to call 'the age of dialogue' in the agency I used to work for. He's pretended to be your friend like most products in the digital age try to do and he succeeded.
"It's marketing speak, he's done his job fantastically"
Gearbox' reputation is damaged and people will hesitate to buy their games in the future.
Not even talking 'bout Randy's reputation haha ...
As a hit and run job, a singular deal it would be perfect for sure :D
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 15, 2013, 10:19:54 PM
What's wrong with the guy? Doesn't seem to have any kind of remorse at all. Doesn't even seem interested in explaining anything.
That's because he has a long history of acting that way.
http://www.gamefront.com/gearboxs-randy-pitchford-reviewers-who-dont-like-duke-nukem-forever-will-be-held-accountable/ (http://www.gamefront.com/gearboxs-randy-pitchford-reviewers-who-dont-like-duke-nukem-forever-will-be-held-accountable/)
Just read it. It'll be
exactly the same here.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Feb 16, 2013, 12:15:23 AM
"It's marketing speak, he's done his job fantastically"
Gearbox' reputation is damaged and people will hesitate to buy their games in the future.
Not even talking 'bout Randy's reputation haha ...
As a hit and run job, a singular deal it would be perfect for sure :D
If that didn't happen after '
Duke Nukem Forever', it'll
never happen.
Well, with DN:F they had the excuse that it wasn't their baby. Won't work a second time i hope.
That's why it will take a while for an official statement, they have to make up a really good story.
I'm curious if Randy is already looking for a new job...iraqi minister of information maybe.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Feb 16, 2013, 02:31:23 AM
Well, with DN:F they had the excuse that it wasn't their baby. Won't work a second time i hope.
That's why it will take a while for an official statement, they have to make up a really good story.
I'm curious if Randy is already looking for a new job...iraqi minister of information maybe.
Doesn't change the fact of how Pitchford hyped the game like there was nothing wrong with it
and, even in the aftermath, was
still not only saying exactly the same, but saying that reviewers would "be held accountable" by their readers for trying to destroy it.
Or of how he was comparing it to '
Half-Life 2'. No matter how you spin that, it's still either ridiculous for hyperbole or hilariously delusional.
There's no reason to think he'll behave any different with this product. Especially with it being so soon after. The most we'll get out of it is in taking bets at how bizarre his next statement will be when he doubles down on his remarks, rather than being honest.
Seriously, just look at the stuff he said about DNF after it was savaged by just about everyone. Supplant him mentioning that name with '
Colonial Marines'. It'll be exactly what happens.
Either that or he'll say that everyone was holding it to a standard 'no developer' could ever have delivered, that everyone was criticising trivial things and that - hey, look over here! Look at the shiny '
Borderlands 2' monkey! Let's talk about that, instead!
It doesn't matter how nice he comes across in person. Uwe Boll does, too, in some interviews he's done. Doesn't change the fact that he's delivered some of the worst movies in film history.
Remember Pitchford's recent speech where he said he trained himself in the art of being a sleight-of-hand magician.
That's what you need to keep in mind. Misdirection is something he's
well-versed in. He's just more vocal about doing it than most, that's all. Like Xhan said, nobody's innocent in this.
Pitchford, with the full willing participation of games media, whom did most of the Hype I might add. Fairs, Fair.
What a f**king professional.
It was 'Requiem', all over again. The same eagerness to dismiss healthy scepticism as 'hate'. Jinxed fingers always get burned when that happens.
I'm finding their disrespectful comments of, "Our game will make you appreciate 'Alien 3' a lot more," are apparently turning out to be true in a completely different way than they intended, for a lot of fans.
Karma in action.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 16, 2013, 04:58:33 AM
It was 'Requiem', all over again. The same eagerness to dismiss healthy scepticism as 'hate'. Jinxed fingers always get burned when that happens.
I'm finding their disrespectful comments of, "Our game will make you appreciate 'Alien 3' a lot more," are apparently turning out to be true in a completely different way than they intended, for a lot of fans.
Karma in action.
Yep, sucks that the Karma managed to take us down with him because we suffer the most for it.
f**k him. His attitude is that of a pompous, rich prick. I can't believe he said what he said.
I would love for SEGA to sue them.
SEGA didn't review what they were putting out and likely didn't give a shit in a sewer.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 16, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
SEGA didn't review what they were putting out and likely didn't give a shit in a sewer.
There will be consequences to this game being bad. Whether SEGA sells the rights or no more Aliens based games.
Unless there's some sort of legal action, I don't foresee much in the way of consequences aside from them not getting another crack at the 'Alien' whip. I doubt their future is ultra-dependent on getting to make the DLC.
We dunno how well this thing has sold right? I dunno what the budget is either (but ive seen some biiiig numbers) but lets say it only sold like 200k copies combined on preorders which is the closest thing ive seen to an actual number on the net.
If thats all that was sold due to the huge backlash (and seriously Ive got ppl on steam I havent heard from in ages poking fun at me for buying it as well as NON GAMERS on facebook) then its really not a whole heck of a lot of money to spread around. Lots of people might lose their jobs out of necessity amongst all parties involved. Shame that El Presidente wont be one of them.
The only things I've enjoyed from Gearbox were HL2 OpFor, Brothers in Arms, BIA Earned in Blood, and both Borderlands. I've hated Pitchford since he blamed the fans for not knowing anything about hardware and having unrealistic expectations for his crappy port of Halo to the PC. 3 of the last 5 games they've released have been pretty bad.
I was gonna buy BL and BL2. Now? No way. f**k Gearbox, Pitchford, and SEGA.
Quote from: Aceburster on Feb 16, 2013, 09:48:29 AM
We dunno how well this thing has sold right? I dunno what the budget is either (but ive seen some biiiig numbers) but lets say it only sold like 200k copies combined on preorders which is the closest thing ive seen to an actual number on the net.
If thats all that was sold due to the huge backlash (and seriously Ive got ppl on steam I havent heard from in ages poking fun at me for buying it as well as NON GAMERS on facebook) then its really not a whole heck of a lot of money to spread around. Lots of people might lose their jobs out of necessity amongst all parties involved. Shame that El Presidente wont be one of them.
Going off of those numbers, (and the 65mil I've seen quoted for the projects pricetag) that would leave a deficit of ~53 mil loss, rounding up into american dollars, exchange rates make this different etc. etc. etc.
I'm sure they sold more than 200,000 copies at $60 a go, plus you've got CE and DLC to factor in as well as season pass buyers.
However, (if the 65 mil figure is correct) they needed to sell around 1,083,334 copies at $60 to make back the $65mil investment, and I'm 100% sure this game has not sold over a million copies, far from it. Of the copies sold, I'd guess less than a third would be satisfied enough to buy DLC.
They're in for a,
potentially, big loss.
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 16, 2013, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: Aceburster on Feb 16, 2013, 09:48:29 AM
We dunno how well this thing has sold right? I dunno what the budget is either (but ive seen some biiiig numbers) but lets say it only sold like 200k copies combined on preorders which is the closest thing ive seen to an actual number on the net.
If thats all that was sold due to the huge backlash (and seriously Ive got ppl on steam I havent heard from in ages poking fun at me for buying it as well as NON GAMERS on facebook) then its really not a whole heck of a lot of money to spread around. Lots of people might lose their jobs out of necessity amongst all parties involved. Shame that El Presidente wont be one of them.
Going off of those numbers, (and the 65mil I've seen quoted for the projects pricetag) that would leave a deficit of ~53 mil loss, rounding up into american dollars, exchange rates make this different etc. etc. etc.
I'm sure they sold more than 200,000 copies at $60 a go, plus you've got CE and DLC to factor in as well as season pass buyers.
However, (if the 65 mil figure is correct) they needed to sell around 1,083,334 copies at $60 to make back the $65mil investment, and I'm 100% sure this game has not sold over a million copies, far from it. Of the copies sold, I'd guess less than a third would be satisfied enough to buy DLC.
They're in for a, potentially, big loss.
Yea its possible. I dont wanna think too hard about numbers because itll take quite a while to really know whats up. Prometheus looked sketchy for quite a while and it seems to have been worth the money in the end. This game is straight up eating dirt though. I got the season pass and waiting for a miracle. :/
What were the numbers like for 'Duke Nukem Forever'? Was there a profit or loss on that?
I'm not just asking because of Gearbox being involved, but because the development seems to have followed exactly the same pattern: In production for many years, hyped to the gills by Pitchford, then nailed against the wall by reviews and marred by buggy execution.
I would be stunned if ACM sold 1 million copies. This has financial disaster written all over it.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 16, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
What were the numbers like for 'Duke Nukem Forever'? Was there a profit or loss on that?
I'm not just asking because of Gearbox being involved, but because the development seems to have followed exactly the same pattern: In production for many years, hyped to the gills by Pitchford, then nailed against the wall by reviews and marred by buggy execution.
It appears that DNF had sold something like ~350k when it turned a profit for Take-Two. But that doesnt take into account the 30 million originally dumped into the game by 3D Realms from what I gather. This game on the other hand is completely the responsability of GBX and co. from the get go.
I truly believe there will be some kind of fall out since not only does the game blow, was critically hated almost universally, and will lose tons of money...yeah. Shit is going down.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 16, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
What were the numbers like for 'Duke Nukem Forever'? Was there a profit or loss on that?
I'm not just asking because of Gearbox being involved, but because the development seems to have followed exactly the same pattern: In production for many years, hyped to the gills by Pitchford, then nailed against the wall by reviews and marred by buggy execution.
Quote from: Wikipedia
According to research firm NPD, Duke Nukem Forever sold 376,300 units in its first month (sales results do not include digital copies).[56] Take-Two Interactive, the parent company of 2K Games, revealed in July 2011 that the game sales were half of their initial expectations.[57] However, in an earnings call on August 8, 2011, Take-Two stated that Duke Nukem Forever would prove to be profitable for the company.[58]
It was proftable for GBX and Take-Two after they got the license from 3D realms, which I would gather means overall it was a net loss when including 3D realms investment Which saw them go bankrupt eventually). There's a few blogs quoting total numbers for DNF of around 500,000-600,000 copies including online retailers, baring in mind DN fans is a much smaller demographic than Aliens fans. Also baring in mind that the fallout over DNF was much smaller than the fallout over A:CM and that DNF also received higher net score percentages.
The steam online data shows a drop from ~12,500 online for the game on the 12th, to ~6000 online for the 15th. There is a hell of a drop off (50% of your customers gone inside of a week) and 12,000 online day one doesn't speak much for strong sales figures on PC at least.
I'd guestimate, maybe 500,000 copies sold as a high end guess, 350,000 sold as a low end guess.
I'll probably be wrong, but that feels right.
Interesting extrapolation. Thanks.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 16, 2013, 01:34:58 PM
Interesting extrapolation. Thanks.
No worries, I like doing Mathy stuff :)
It's actually much more fun to analyse the debacle that is A:CM than it is to play/watch it :D
This obviously isn't the first time that Gearbox, mainly Pitchford, has lied to us about several different aspects of a game they are releasing. There is A:CM, Duke Nukem, and Borderlands 2. I'm just going to leave this link here showing what they lied about to fans in BL2.
I'm not really trying to shame them; they can make some great games, but I think it is pretty relevant. It's a link to the GB forums:
http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=192334&highlight=interviews+false (http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=192334&highlight=interviews+false)
I know nothing of that fandom, as I've never purchased the games, but that gives the distinct impression that trust seems to be in short order over there.
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"Trust me"
Spoiler
Someone need to make a meme with Randy's head :D
Quote from: acidpits on Feb 15, 2013, 11:56:29 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 15, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
Randy is a tough case for me. I want to believe that there really is a guy in charge who is such a fan of the series as I am. The kind of guy who I could sit with and just talk the nuances and details of the Alien universe. Like we do around here with every facet of the franchise...
...But he pulled that same kind of schtick with Duke Nukem Forever. "We can't let the Duke die... For the fans!" Ya know. Those were his words! So he's making this a bit of a habit.
It's marketing speak, he's done his job fantastically in what we used to call 'the age of dialogue' in the agency I used to work for. He's pretended to be your friend like most products in the digital age try to do and he succeeded.
If he didn't hype it up so much and claim it was going to be doing things it never did, we'd all be more forgiving. I don't understand why he had to resort to blatant bullshi**ing to sell it. I mean it's Aliens, it sells itself.
Negative negative negative.....the one thing I am really excited about is Hicks is alive!!!! Do you know what this means???? He has paved the way for this to happen...
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...and if Hicks is alive, there is every possibility that Newt could be too.
The little girl in Alien 3 was actually an unfortunate member of the Wey-Yu child soldier division that badass Rebecca threw in cryotube.
Quote from: Fujimaster on Feb 17, 2013, 12:29:52 PM
the one thing I am really excited about is Hicks is alive!!!! Do you know what this means????
That Gearbox's allegedly brilliant idea for how it was possible was such a work of genius that they thought it should be left unexplained?
Quote from: Fujimaster on Feb 17, 2013, 12:29:52 PM
Negative negative negative.....the one thing I am really excited about is Hicks is alive!!!! Do you know what this means???? He has paved the way for this to happen...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/Earth_Hive_Book.jpg/200px-Earth_Hive_Book.jpg
...and if Hicks is alive, there is every possibility that Newt could be too.
I liked those books as much as any other Alien/Aliens fan at the time, but seriously, when they went back and rewrote them as Billie and Wilks, that's how those stories were staying. Hicks and Newt are dead, and this'll be forgotten as 'canon' because of how much it stinks.
Think the game probabally sold more like 150,000 copies. I mean 12,000 people online isn't alot if 400,000 or so bought it. Even with the games lengthy development cyclcle, i doubt they are going to make any profit from it at this rate. Come next month you'll probabally be able to get the game for like 5 bucks preowned.
And Randy got off with f**king a game up and taking all the money that was supposed to go to develop A:CM to Boarderlands 2
Quote from: Guts on Feb 17, 2013, 04:47:45 PM
Think the game probabally sold more like 150,000 copies. I mean 12,000 people online isn't alot if 400,000 or so bought it. Even with the games lengthy development cyclcle, i doubt they are going to make any profit from it at this rate. Come next month you'll probabally be able to get the game for like 5 bucks preowned.
And Randy got off with f**king a game up and taking all the money that was supposed to go to develop A:CM to Boarderlands 2
Even 400,000 copies sold is a loss for this development, that works out around the $24,000,000 mark, still less than half the (supposed) development and marketing cost for this game. They needed to sell a minimum of 1,083,334 copies at $60 to break even with the (again supposed) figure of a $65 million dollar budget.
To be honest, they should of canceled the game, and given it a rest for two years, and then start over with completely new developer. And instead work on AVP4 and that CA Aliens game.
Didn't AVP3 sell million or so copies?
God, if those facts are true, feels like more than enough to bury Gearbox. From what we've heard at this point, that's mad fraud... I'm sure the legal battles have been more terrible than the Atmosphere Processor and last stand in Operations...
Quote from: Guts on Feb 17, 2013, 05:08:38 PM
To be honest, they should of canceled the game, and given it a rest for two years, and then start over with completely new developer. And instead work on AVP4 and that CA Aliens game.
Didn't AVP3 sell million or so copies?
Somewhere around a million, don't think we ever got an official figure.
Bare in mind, AVP has the added bonus of all the Predator fanboys purchasing it as well.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 17, 2013, 12:44:32 PM
The little girl in Alien 3 was actually an unfortunate member of the Wey-Yu child soldier division that badass Rebecca threw in cryotube.
that happened to look EXACTLY like her, no less.
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 17, 2013, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: Guts on Feb 17, 2013, 05:08:38 PM
To be honest, they should of canceled the game, and given it a rest for two years, and then start over with completely new developer. And instead work on AVP4 and that CA Aliens game.
Didn't AVP3 sell million or so copies?
Somewhere around a million, don't think we ever got an official figure.
Bare in mind, AVP has the added bonus of all the Predator fanboys purchasing it as well.
VGChartz bro. It sold over 2 million.
Profit right there.
Quote from: Guts on Feb 18, 2013, 08:12:09 AM
Profit right there.
If the budget rumor is true than ACM won't make a profit. I don't know numbers but word was Rebellion did AVP3 on a budget.
QuoteThere are some cool things planned. We're learning some great lessons
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/303735035742269440
I always hate empty compliments - I just hope he is telling the truth this time. While I am hoping I feel like I should play the lottery while I am at it.
It's all bull.
This man deserves a c**t punt, because he obviously has no balls.
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 09:48:54 AM
a c**t punt
Could you uh.... Could you go through the process of what that entails, sir?
Anything Randy says about A:CM right now is going to probably resemble a half-hearted, and sheepish, attempt at damage control.
I really think I would punch the dude if I met him. No because of ACM, but because he's a smug, pompous asshole.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 19, 2013, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 09:48:54 AM
a c**t punt
Could you uh.... Could you go through the process of what that entails, sir?
Anything Randy says about A:CM right now is going to probably resemble a half-hearted, and sheepish, attempt at damage control.
It's the same as kicking a guy in the balls, except to a woman. It was an attempt to point out the fact the guy has no backbone and his equivocating makes him look ball-less. Hence he needs a kick in the c**t instead of the balls. A punt would be a kick similar to a Rugby penalty kick, or an american football PAT or Field Goal, big run up big swing of the leg. It's used because it rhymes with c**t quite pleasantly. Incidentally, c**t is a pretty vulgar word that means lady parts, and while I have a rather extensive vocabulary I do like me some old fashioned vulgarity.
I also feel I just wrote a needlessly over-long explanation for that, and you were just poking fun at me to see if I would :D
I'm not a millionaire but i'm not starving too.Most of the successful people who put a $ to their pockets are very arrogant to personally accept they were wrong about one of their work/projects,especially in pub.He will never post something like: ''on behalf of bla bla bla...im sorry we...bla bla bla''.Except if the sentence ends like: ''so,it is clearly their fault...''
They ruined a game that had a lot of potential.The damage is already done.
I live in the real world.I work,go out ect...BUT it is really annoying that i'm 300% sure we will never have a proper Aliens FPS based on Cameron's movie again for at least 20 years.
I was 10 when the original Doom was out and i dreamed instantly how cool would it be a Doom game but with Aliens,like the movie i was watching 10 times per year.Now we got that surprisingly bad game.I don't think there will be another based on Aliens for another 20 years...and i don't think i will care when i ll be 50.That is what disappoints me so much.Already my love for gaming has decreased a lot.I buy 2-3 games per year,when i used to buy like 15 as a teen.When i heard about ACM i almost got an erection :laugh:
Really good chance for an epic game was wasted.Oh well i guess even hardcore fans cant have everything in life.
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I laughed aloud and am blaming you for this. :laugh:
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 19, 2013, 08:57:20 AM
QuoteThere are some cool things planned. We're learning some great lessons
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/303735035742269440
A statement like this is pure comedy gold and he doesn't even realise it. :D
Maybe Evil Randy can give us the answers we need!
https://twitter.com/Evil_Pitchford
Here's my favorite so far:
"Bring back Alien game revenue - Fanbase expendable"
- Sega-Yutani Orders @ Gearbox
Randy's been answering to negative criticism on Twitter but not my concerns about the visuals. I offered to help out and told him I support the efforts. I know shit is going to be shit no matter how much you clean it but I just want to see some environmental add ons like fog and dark areas. Either he's avoiding the topic or hasn't seen my 6 tweets.
Quote from: XenoMAC on Feb 19, 2013, 05:36:53 PM
Randy's been answering to negative criticism on Twitter but not my concerns about the visuals. I offered to help out and told him I support the efforts. I know shit is going to be shit no matter how much you clean it but I just want to see some environmental add ons like fog and dark areas. Either he's avoiding the topic or hasn't seen my 6 tweets.
AI is the main problem by far.If the AI was good then the SP campaign would be decent.
I think he saw everything
XenoMAC but he doesn't care.So simple.I believe if the game sells decent he will be proud too hahaha!
Boy's definitely got a corncob up his ass.
More summarized tweets: http://www.oxm.co.uk/50393/gearbox-boss-responds-to-colonial-marines-critics-i-will-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money/ (http://www.oxm.co.uk/50393/gearbox-boss-responds-to-colonial-marines-critics-i-will-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money/)
The irony is that Randy is like a Bishop Weyland and Sega is yutani. prime directive churn out Sh!t, Fans expendable.
But he insisted that the new shooter had its strengths - and fans. "There is genuine love for the game - it turns out opinions vary," Pitchford told one follower. "I love the setting, story and pacing of campaign," he said later. "I love versus. I always see the flaws in all of our work. An Artist's Dilemma."
Genuine love? What a f**kwit.
"@JimSterling Why all the Randy hate? A:CM wasnt GOTY material,but next one will have Predators to make up for it ;)"
LOL
'Evil Pitchford' is genius... Wish I'd thought of it now.
Quote from: Slaine on Feb 19, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
Boy's definitely got a corncob up his ass.
:laugh:
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 19, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
More summarized tweets: http://www.oxm.co.uk/50393/gearbox-boss-responds-to-colonial-marines-critics-i-will-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money/ (http://www.oxm.co.uk/50393/gearbox-boss-responds-to-colonial-marines-critics-i-will-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money/)
It's the '
Duke Nukem Forever' reaction, all over again - as predicted.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 19, 2013, 07:08:38 PM
'Evil Pitchford' is genius... Wish I'd thought of it now.
Quote from: Slaine on Feb 19, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
Boy's definitely got a corncob up his ass.
:laugh:
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 19, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
More summarized tweets: http://www.oxm.co.uk/50393/gearbox-boss-responds-to-colonial-marines-critics-i-will-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money/ (http://www.oxm.co.uk/50393/gearbox-boss-responds-to-colonial-marines-critics-i-will-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money/)
It's the 'Duke Nukem Forever' reaction, all over again - as predicted.
Yup.
Gearbox... Gearbox never changes.
Oh wait, wrong franchise.
If he was in love with the game as much as he seems to be with himself.... we wouldn`t have had any issues with the game.
That guy. Randy, lives in LALA land... 'some' didn't like the game'?! The majority of ALien fans abhorr it! And the amount pf kiss-ass in that twitter of his is sickening! This guy is so full of himself and delusional I hardly think this guys will EVER admit he fouled it up! LAdies and gents, this guy is incorrigible! So, I am glad they won't be doing any more damage to the Alien franchise and hopefully Creative Assembly's take will fade the memory of this pathetic excuse of a game out of our collective minds! Randy's asinine posture is only gonna hurt his image more than help it! Hey, Randy, go to a forum, don't answer to questions, just make a statement demosntrating you did not rip off Sega, also prove that the capital used on borderlands did come from any profit you have had before... Because, the time frae shows me that you took advantage of Sega's money, outsourced the damn thing. used the money on borderlands 2 and then hired the lowest bidder for ACM, namely Timegate... You, sir, are a fraud!
He's just a c**t.
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 08:48:33 PM
He's just a c**t.
"In case you forgot... The bitch is back!"
Now I want to see someone take Randy's head and photo-manip it to that shot in Alien 3 where the Alien gets right up in Ripley's personal space.
MORE MEMES.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 16, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
SEGA didn't review what they were putting out and likely didn't give a shit in a sewer.
If the figures are right and if for them to make a profit they need a million copies sold, then SEGA has lost a LOT of money!!! NO way they are gonna let Gearbox get away unscathed! Nevertheless, Gearbox has another BIG smudge on their repertoire and that is like a criminal record for them: it will stick for any publisher who is even thinking about hiring them! Serves them righT! A-holes!
What does he mean they will look into that? LOOK INTO WHAT? The demo that he SAID WAS GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE was OBVIOUSLY not real.
Wow, f**k this dude. f**k him. f**k him. f**k him. Hope they lose a ton of money.
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 16, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
SEGA didn't review what they were putting out and likely didn't give a shit in a sewer.
If the figures are right and if for them to make a profit they need a million copies sold, then SEGA has lost a LOT of money!!! NO way they are gonna let Gearbox get away unscathed! Nevertheless, Gearbox has another BIG smudge on their repertoire and that is like a criminal record for them: it will stick for any publisher who is even thinking about hiring them! Serves them righT! A-holes!
Check the last post in the "A:CM outselling DS3" topic on page 2 of the forums, I've just updated it with the latest steam position, looks like SEGA/GEARBOX have really hit the shitter.
Bumping it back to the main page would be cool too, seeing as how that doesn't happen when you edit/update a post ;)
I think Aliens arent taken seriously anymore because of the AVP movie failures. I knew making an AVP movie was a mistake from the beginning and i feel thats why the Aliens universe isnt taken seriously anymore. I think without the AVP movie failures and good developers and story artists A:CM would have been a better success. I think Prometheus was the only thing that remotely saved the Alien universe but the AVP movies and the AVP 2010 game wasnt the best. Thats just my two cents.
Quote from: Alien1 on Feb 19, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
I think Aliens arent taken seriously anymore because of the AVP movie failures. I knew making an AVP movie was a mistake from the beginning and i feel thats why the Aliens universe isnt taken seriously anymore. I think without the AVP movie failures and good developers and story artists A:CM would have been a better success. I think Prometheus was the only thing that remotely saved the Alien universe but the AVP movies and the AVP 2010 game wasnt the best. Thats just my two cents.
The AVP movies were not failures, anything but. They made millions upon millions of dollars.
They were shit movies with shit plots and shitty ideas, the whole crossover has been a fan wankfest of turgid f**kery since it's inception.
Was still very profitable though, and that's all Fox care about.
Quote from: Alien1 on Feb 19, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
I think Aliens arent taken seriously anymore because of the AVP movie failures. I knew making an AVP movie was a mistake from the beginning and i feel thats why the Aliens universe isnt taken seriously anymore. I think without the AVP movie failures and good developers and story artists A:CM would have been a better success. I think Prometheus was the only thing that remotely saved the Alien universe but the AVP movies and the AVP 2010 game wasnt the best. Thats just my two cents.
Prometheus?
Saving Alien?
...
:D
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 19, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: Alien1 on Feb 19, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
I think Aliens arent taken seriously anymore because of the AVP movie failures. I knew making an AVP movie was a mistake from the beginning and i feel thats why the Aliens universe isnt taken seriously anymore. I think without the AVP movie failures and good developers and story artists A:CM would have been a better success. I think Prometheus was the only thing that remotely saved the Alien universe but the AVP movies and the AVP 2010 game wasnt the best. Thats just my two cents.
Prometheus?
Saving Alien?
...
:D
Yeah that was rather chuckle worthy, that film shat on the series almost as much as A:R did.
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 09:37:46 PM
They were shit movies with shit plots and shitty ideas, the whole crossover has been a fan wankfest of turgid f**kery since it's inception.
Was still very profitable though, and that's all Fox care about.
It could have worked. Fox just didn't feel compelled to go down the route of creative success.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 19, 2013, 09:57:37 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 09:37:46 PM
They were shit movies with shit plots and shitty ideas, the whole crossover has been a fan wankfest of turgid f**kery since it's inception.
Was still very profitable though, and that's all Fox care about.
It could have worked. Fox just didn't feel compelled to go down the route of creative success.
To be honest I've never liked AVP, I didn't like the Perry books, the comics, the games or the films. Leave the f**king franchises alone to do their own shit. Admittedly, this mostly comes from the point of view where I'm just not much of a Predator fan, they're ok take your brain out action movies, but not what I want from my sci fi.
Stop raping my childhood Fox, you f**ks :'(
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 09:45:48 PM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 19, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: Alien1 on Feb 19, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
I think Aliens arent taken seriously anymore because of the AVP movie failures. I knew making an AVP movie was a mistake from the beginning and i feel thats why the Aliens universe isnt taken seriously anymore. I think without the AVP movie failures and good developers and story artists A:CM would have been a better success. I think Prometheus was the only thing that remotely saved the Alien universe but the AVP movies and the AVP 2010 game wasnt the best. Thats just my two cents.
Prometheus?
Saving Alien?
...
:D
Yeah that was rather chuckle worthy, that film shat on the series almost as much as A:R did.
Yeah, they should have ended it with Alien3... For me, it would have closed Ripley's saga beautifully... Granted, the Theatrical version was full a holes but given the nightmare the pre-prod and production were, I was pleased with the results not being as bad as they could have been... But I am an ALien3 fan, so what do I know, right? ;)
The franchise was f**ked the minute it became "Ripley's saga." I'd have liked to see Gibson's script filmed if only to disentangle Sigourney Weaver from it.
I believe you should not mix predators and Aliens... It will immediately cause a war for screen time, a war between which creature was badass and which one was not, a war between Alien fans and Predator fans for which one is the ultimate badass...
I liked both franchises, and AVP movies, books, etc, are just to me like the Freddy versus JAson one: I was a Freddy fan, but never saw the halloween movies, so never knew who Jason was nor where did that blood lust came from... That movie showed me the pointer on that... Other than that, is just popcorn nonsense, with ridiculous fights, two beings that are unkillable anyway, and... Ok, I am getting sidetracked here...
This is about Randy 'Grab your' Pitchforks, anyway... :D
Quote from: RC on Feb 19, 2013, 10:19:49 PM
The franchise was f**ked the minute it became "Ripley's saga." I'd have liked to see Gibson's script filmed if only to disentangle Sigourney Weaver from it.
yes, I sorta agree with you... I remember even before, when they were deciding to pursue a storyline without Ripley and just Hicks... Where could it have gone to? I dont know... The fact is that Ripley was at the core of the saga because this whole saga was a about her being a survivor, first of the alien, then the only survivor of her family, then all alone, facing her demons and that line in Alien 3, which I love, said it all 'You've been in my life so long, I can't remember anything else'...
But we are sidetracking, guys... My bad... again...
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 16, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
SEGA didn't review what they were putting out and likely didn't give a shit in a sewer.
If the figures are right and if for them to make a profit they need a million copies sold, then SEGA has lost a LOT of money!!! NO way they are gonna let Gearbox get away unscathed! Nevertheless, Gearbox has another BIG smudge on their repertoire and that is like a criminal record for them: it will stick for any publisher who is even thinking about hiring them! Serves them righT! A-holes!
Check the last post in the "A:CM outselling DS3" topic on page 2 of the forums, I've just updated it with the latest steam position, looks like SEGA/GEARBOX have really hit the shitter.
Bumping it back to the main page would be cool too, seeing as how that doesn't happen when you edit/update a post ;)
Will do just that, Elicas... Thanks...
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 19, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: Alien1 on Feb 19, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
I think Aliens arent taken seriously anymore because of the AVP movie failures. I knew making an AVP movie was a mistake from the beginning and i feel thats why the Aliens universe isnt taken seriously anymore. I think without the AVP movie failures and good developers and story artists A:CM would have been a better success. I think Prometheus was the only thing that remotely saved the Alien universe but the AVP movies and the AVP 2010 game wasnt the best. Thats just my two cents.
Prometheus?
Saving Alien?
...
:D
Prometheus was never intended to save anything. If they wanted it to save Alien, they might've actually put Aliens in it instead of deliberately not.
Ah, better than what I suggested.
A recent article pointed out this from the DNF era:
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/81509576322727937
Think it's useful to compare/contrast his Twitter feed then and now, to predict likely Gearbox reactions.
All that proved was that he stooged people into buying it.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 20, 2013, 02:30:56 AM
A recent article pointed out this from the DNF era:
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/81509576322727937
Think it's useful to compare/contrast his Twitter feed then and now, to predict likely Gearbox reactions.
I really hope the game has sold badly just so he can't use this lame excuse again.
I can't wait for VGChartz to have the first week numbers up soon.
How affably evil.
Go to the fiery depths of Tartarus, Pitchford!!!
Gotta love the Revenge of the Fallen defense.
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
This is the first time I truly felt taken advantage of. Amazon wont even let me sell this piece of shit. All those promises, all the hype. That Creative Assembly game cant come soon enough.
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Feb 20, 2013, 02:40:21 AM
This is the first time I truly felt taken advantage of. Amazon wont even let me sell this piece of shit. All those promises, all the hype. That Creative Assembly game cant come soon enough.
I feel you. I hope CA sees what GBX did and understand that if they put out a TRUE AAA title that they can make a lot of money. CA has a lot going for it right now, IMO.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Linky?
Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 20, 2013, 03:21:44 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Linky?
Just read all the tweets on his page. I sifted through and found it. Some 17 year old girl from the UK. She blasted him.
Honestly I'm surprised that they are trying to fix there mistakes as much as they are.
Quote from: GET TO THE CHOPPA! on Feb 20, 2013, 03:49:17 AM
Honestly I'm surprised that they are trying to fix there mistakes as much as they are.
I will believe it when I see updates on my Xbox. For now it's all Pitchfraud's words.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 03:37:41 AM
Just read all the tweets on his page. I sifted through and found it. Some 17 year old girl from the UK. She blasted him.
What was said to have been so memorable?
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 20, 2013, 04:00:47 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 03:37:41 AM
Just read all the tweets on his page. I sifted through and found it. Some 17 year old girl from the UK. She blasted him.
What was said to have been so memorable?
She said something like, "Randy, I am so glad that you care about this series and love the fans. I also enjoy how you plan on fixing this game to get it up to par. Oh wait..."
I found it funny cause she was a 17 year old gamer girl who LOVES this series like guys do.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 04:15:00 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 20, 2013, 04:00:47 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 03:37:41 AM
Just read all the tweets on his page. I sifted through and found it. Some 17 year old girl from the UK. She blasted him.
What was said to have been so memorable?
She said something like, "Randy, I am so glad that you care about this series and love the fans. I also enjoy how you plan on fixing this game to get it up to par. Oh wait..."
I found it funny cause she was a 17 year old gamer girl who LOVES this series like guys do.
girls like the franchise too man, my girlfriend raged harder than i did when she played through the campaign.
Quote from: Byohzrd on Feb 20, 2013, 04:22:50 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 04:15:00 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 20, 2013, 04:00:47 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 03:37:41 AM
Just read all the tweets on his page. I sifted through and found it. Some 17 year old girl from the UK. She blasted him.
What was said to have been so memorable?
She said something like, "Randy, I am so glad that you care about this series and love the fans. I also enjoy how you plan on fixing this game to get it up to par. Oh wait..."
I found it funny cause she was a 17 year old gamer girl who LOVES this series like guys do.
girls like the franchise too man, my girlfriend raged harder than i did when she played through the campaign.
Show me the transcripts!
Quote from: Byohzrd on Feb 20, 2013, 04:22:50 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 04:15:00 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 20, 2013, 04:00:47 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 03:37:41 AM
Just read all the tweets on his page. I sifted through and found it. Some 17 year old girl from the UK. She blasted him.
What was said to have been so memorable?
She said something like, "Randy, I am so glad that you care about this series and love the fans. I also enjoy how you plan on fixing this game to get it up to par. Oh wait..."
I found it funny cause she was a 17 year old gamer girl who LOVES this series like guys do.
girls like the franchise too man, my girlfriend raged harder than i did when she played through the campaign.
So did mines. She loves Hicks but when he said "that's a longer story" she cried "bullllll
shiiiit."
I think it would be absolutely hilarious to have a new commercial released, hailing the game as "The game critics and audiences can't stop talking about".
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 20, 2013, 04:48:59 AM
I think it would be absolutely hilarious to have a new commercial released, hailing the game as "The game critics and audiences can't stop talking about".
What have you done?!
I mean, it wouldn't be false advertising...
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 20, 2013, 04:49:52 AM
I mean, it wouldn't be false advertising...
Omg...they're reading this!!!
The 'Alien' and 'Terminator' films (original ones, at least) have a lot more female fans than is supposed, precisely because of how iconic Ripley and Sarah Connor are in culture as heroines.
Way early on, I thought Gearbox might opt for the main character of this title being either a female Marine or having the option to switch between genders, because of that very reason. Seemed like an obvious marketing angle to me.
I like female characters in my FPS. I played as a female spartan in Halo Reach. I use the female marine in ACM also.
My lord, the man actually said some human words. I believe I read the phrase "learned some things" which could almost be taken as an admission of possible error!
Well, that's a start. At least they're not trying to remain totally oblivious to the criticism.. that was getting painful lol.
what did he learned? false advertising doesnt help the game to be better?
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 20, 2013, 07:07:10 AM
My lord, the man actually said some human words. I believe I read the phrase "learned some things" which could almost be taken as an admission of possible error!
Well, that's a start. At least they're not trying to remain totally oblivious to the criticism.. that was getting painful lol.
We will see what he's learned when I see progress from GBX on patches and worthy DLC.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 20, 2013, 07:07:10 AM
My lord, the man actually said some human words. I believe I read the phrase "learned some things" which could almost be taken as an admission of possible error!
Well, that's a start. At least they're not trying to remain totally oblivious to the criticism.. that was getting painful lol.
We will see what he's learned when I see progress from GBX on patches and worthy DLC.
I'm not gonna hold my breath.
Anyone reading the articles by Jim Sterling of Destructoid? Dude has been SHITTING all over Pitchfraud. It's good stuff. Sterling has been a HUGE advocate for trying to get to the truth of what happened with this game.
Also, saw a dude tweet that he got blocked by Pitchfraud for simply putting the E3 demo link on his page and asking for answers. LOL. Pitchfraud is such a POS.
"Human words" - Randy Pitchford, Gearbox
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
Anyone reading the articles by Jim Sterling of Destructoid? Dude has been SHITTING all over Pitchfraud. It's good stuff. Sterling has been a HUGE advocate for trying to get to the truth of what happened with this game.
Also, saw a dude tweet that he got blocked by Pitchfraud for simply putting the E3 demo link on his page and asking for answers. LOL. Pitchfraud is such a POS.
I'm a vivid watcher of Jims videos since he appeared on the Escapist (Didn't know he was on Dest back then) and he knows what most of us want from the industry but you've got lying f**ks like Randy "playing it smooth" and hell even a few people are now starting to side with randy simply because he's "smooth talking" compared to Jim's apparent "raging and frothing from the mouth" and that just makes me really sad, sad that some people will willingly bend over and take all the lies and fabricate them as truth.
Also here's another one of Jims recent videos on Pre ordering after he watched Total Biscuits latest on pre ordering.
IMO I want to see Randy crumble to nothing and have Gearbox sued into the ground because the last 6 years was nothing but utter fabrication and robbery from Sega.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6863-Previewed-Preordered-Prescrewed (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6863-Previewed-Preordered-Prescrewed)
It amazes me how immature this guy seems to be.
It's like when somebody cheats on his wife and when she finds out he just pretends it didn't really happen instead of taking what's coming to him like a man and try to make up for the lost respect and trust.
Then his friends come in and make up all kinds of excuses trying to make him feel better, saying that it wasn't his fault or that they would have done the same in his shoes and he doesn't have to take the heat for it. And he stands there with a drink in his hands smiling and thanking them for the support :p
Humans: worst species on the planet :D
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Yes, because women are bloody good @ complaining about things; increadible @ it when its none of thier business, anyway.
Quote from: Paladinrja on Feb 20, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Yes, because women are bloody good @ complaining about things; increadible @ it when its none of thier business, anyway.
What in the hell are you going on about?
Quote from: Paladinrja on Feb 20, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Yes, because women are bloody good @ complaining about things; increadible @ it when its none of thier business, anyway.
Are you Randy's best friend? Jesus.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Paladinrja on Feb 20, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Yes, because women are bloody good @ complaining about things; increadible @ it when its none of thier business, anyway.
Are you Randy's best friend? Jesus.
I think he's one of those crazies who pops up to berate the game in one thread, then seems to defend it in another, then goes on a completely random tangent to accuse Michael Biehn of being responsible all the franchises faults, and that that is a fact because he is ex military and knows these things.
The guy can't decide what he's on about, basically.
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 20, 2013, 06:25:51 PMthat is a fact because he is ex military and knows these things.
Well I'm sold.
Quote from: RC on Feb 20, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 20, 2013, 06:25:51 PMthat is a fact because he is ex military and knows these things.
Well I'm sold.
Indeed. I wonder what the percentage of people who say they are ex military actually being ex military is.
Quote from: Paladinrja on Feb 20, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Yes, because women are bloody good @ complaining about things; increadible @ it when its none of thier business, anyway.
Unacceptable attitude. Any more sexist shit from you and you'll be gone.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 20, 2013, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: Paladinrja on Feb 20, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 02:39:36 AM
Some girl ROCKED him with a twitter post. I knew he wouldn't respond to that one.
Yes, because women are bloody good @ complaining about things; increadible @ it when its none of thier business, anyway.
Unacceptable attitude. Any more sexist shit from you and you'll be gone.
I know, right? She's not a even a girl in this case. She's one of us consumers who vented about a crappy product. She has every right even as a girl to begin with.
Listening to Randy do a voiceover on the livestream for the PS4 reveal, what a dick, talking about the deep experiences he can bring to his customers with the new console.
Balls deep...
There's an image i'd like to purge from my mind forever. Thanks, SM. :laugh:
Quote from: SM on Feb 20, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
Balls deep...
Squeal for me piggy! Ding a ling ding ding ding ding ding ding.
Quote from: Shadow-Phoenix on Feb 20, 2013, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
Anyone reading the articles by Jim Sterling of Destructoid? Dude has been SHITTING all over Pitchfraud. It's good stuff. Sterling has been a HUGE advocate for trying to get to the truth of what happened with this game.
Also, saw a dude tweet that he got blocked by Pitchfraud for simply putting the E3 demo link on his page and asking for answers. LOL. Pitchfraud is such a POS.
I'm a vivid watcher of Jims videos since he appeared on the Escapist (Didn't know he was on Dest back then) and he knows what most of us want from the industry but you've got lying f**ks like Randy "playing it smooth" and hell even a few people are now starting to side with randy simply because he's "smooth talking" compared to Jim's apparent "raging and frothing from the mouth" and that just makes me really sad, sad that some people will willingly bend over and take all the lies and fabricate them as truth.
Also here's another one of Jims recent videos on Pre ordering after he watched Total Biscuits latest on pre ordering.
IMO I want to see Randy crumble to nothing and have Gearbox sued into the ground because the last 6 years was nothing but utter fabrication and robbery from Sega.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6863-Previewed-Preordered-Prescrewed (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6863-Previewed-Preordered-Prescrewed)
I can only speak from personal experience, but the guy who's going ape shit and frothing at the mouth is probably gonna end up the bad guy 99 /100 times. Meanwhile "Mr cool" will stroll back over to his buddies and have a good laugh at the nut-so's expense. Staying calm and composed makes you look good every time.
Quote from: Njm1983 on Feb 21, 2013, 03:13:28 AM
Quote from: Shadow-Phoenix on Feb 20, 2013, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
Anyone reading the articles by Jim Sterling of Destructoid? Dude has been SHITTING all over Pitchfraud. It's good stuff. Sterling has been a HUGE advocate for trying to get to the truth of what happened with this game.
Also, saw a dude tweet that he got blocked by Pitchfraud for simply putting the E3 demo link on his page and asking for answers. LOL. Pitchfraud is such a POS.
I'm a vivid watcher of Jims videos since he appeared on the Escapist (Didn't know he was on Dest back then) and he knows what most of us want from the industry but you've got lying f**ks like Randy "playing it smooth" and hell even a few people are now starting to side with randy simply because he's "smooth talking" compared to Jim's apparent "raging and frothing from the mouth" and that just makes me really sad, sad that some people will willingly bend over and take all the lies and fabricate them as truth.
Also here's another one of Jims recent videos on Pre ordering after he watched Total Biscuits latest on pre ordering.
IMO I want to see Randy crumble to nothing and have Gearbox sued into the ground because the last 6 years was nothing but utter fabrication and robbery from Sega.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6863-Previewed-Preordered-Prescrewed (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6863-Previewed-Preordered-Prescrewed)
I can only speak from personal experience, but the guy who's going ape shit and frothing at the mouth is probably gonna end up the bad guy 99 /100 times. Meanwhile "Mr cool" will stroll back over to his buddies and have a good laugh at the nut-so's expense. Staying calm and composed makes you look good every time.
Jim pulls off the "bad guy" pretty well though. He's done it before and knows how to handle the backlash.
He's also pretty awesome.
People have found ways to improve their game by tweaking their InI files to recognize their hardware properly. Why there is no word of a patch or fixes yet is astonishing. It's really hard not to see a bait and switch with all this. Still waiting for an official response.
Quote from: Roargathor on Feb 21, 2013, 11:31:01 PM
People have found ways to improve their game by tweaking their InI files to recognize their hardware properly. Why there is no word of a patch or fixes yet is astonishing. It's really hard not to see a bait and switch with all this. Still waiting for an official response.
So am I...so am I...
Only posting this here since it relates to his Twitter account.http://beefjack.com/news/randy-pitchford-to-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money-over-aliens-colonial-marines-backlash/ (http://beefjack.com/news/randy-pitchford-to-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money-over-aliens-colonial-marines-backlash/)
QuoteRandy Pitchford to "lose a huge amount of money" over Aliens Colonial Marines backlash
Glass half-full kind of guy, half-baked kind of game.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 23, 2013, 09:05:38 AM
Only posting this here since it relates to his Twitter account.
http://beefjack.com/news/randy-pitchford-to-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money-over-aliens-colonial-marines-backlash/ (http://beefjack.com/news/randy-pitchford-to-lose-a-huge-amount-of-money-over-aliens-colonial-marines-backlash/)
QuoteRandy Pitchford to "lose a huge amount of money" over Aliens Colonial Marines backlash
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2013/02/19/randy-pitchford-talks-aliens-colonial-marines-2/ (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2013/02/19/randy-pitchford-talks-aliens-colonial-marines-2/)
Quote from: Shadow-Phoenix on Feb 20, 2013, 05:03:33 PM
I'm a vivid watcher of Jims videos since he appeared on the Escapist (Didn't know he was on Dest back then) and he knows what most of us want from the industry but you've got lying f**ks like Randy "playing it smooth" and hell even a few people are now starting to side with randy simply because he's "smooth talking" compared to Jim's apparent "raging and frothing from the mouth" and that just makes me really sad, sad that some people will willingly bend over and take all the lies and fabricate them as truth.
What you say is not as important as how you say it, it's as simple as that.
Which of course makes absolutely no sense.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 23, 2013, 09:24:27 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2013/02/19/randy-pitchford-talks-aliens-colonial-marines-2/ (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2013/02/19/randy-pitchford-talks-aliens-colonial-marines-2/)
That address honestly made me double-take at the thought that a sequel was already being talked about. :)
I am really...really hoping this doesnt just die away and get forgotten. Gearbox really did a disservice to the fans of this franchise and to not only put half and effort into a product but try to mis-represent it to the public is insulting
Listen, and understand. That Randy Pitchford is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are ripped off and he's rich.
I bought Borderlands a long time ago.
It was the Game of the Year Edition and I found it dirt cheap in a bargain bin. I decided to try it because of all the fan raving and the good critical reception. At about 3-4 hours into the game I stopped playing. I found it very generic and boring and the cell shaded art design didn't click with me. Thankfully that experience saved me from Borderlands 2.
After the A:CM fiasco I will never ever buy anything with the Gearbox logo on it.
Although the game is something of a guilty pleasure to me and I plan to be replaying it from time to time, I hate the Randy Pitchford/Gearbox treatment. I don't appreciate being scammed and lied to. I also don't appreciate the silent/denial line of defence that he exhibits. It shows bad character and weak personality. I have respect for people who admiit their mistakes because we all make them. It is what you do after that matters.
I won't care if Gearbox's next game is a real gem. I will not be buying it and I suggest others who feel like me do the same.
I think Pitchford cant come to terms with the fact that he played the typical Alien gamble and managed to be the first to actually fail. I mean yea weve had 2 decades worth of @#$% sandwiches but even Prometheus and AvP:R got a pass money wise, so did AvP2010 right?
That really does put Pitchford in a really bad place, not only because his game sucked and failed, but he bombed out on the franchise lol.
It never gets old when fans come out of the woodwork, people who you dont even expect to be fans of the series and say "I am a fan of the series and this thing sucked" and it makes me happy that reviewers and fans and gamers have all banded together to put this this game in its place. You dont f**k with Aliens and get away with it.
He should catch hell over this for forever, he should be an example of something wrong with entertainment (especially games (especially the Alien franchise)). If it means no more Borderlands then fine, im willing to trade that franchise for the one I love.
He has tried to point at his body of work to try and diminish the mistake he has made but Im gonna think "this company maimed my favorite movie" every time I hear their name. I hope everyone else does. Rebellion got what it deserved for AvP2010, this guy deserves worse.
I hope this finishes off Gearbox.
They have taken the piss out of the fans and the alien franchise. >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: Aceburster on Feb 26, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
I think Pitchford cant come to terms with the fact that he played the typical Alien gamble and managed to be the first to actually fail. I mean yea weve had 2 decades worth of @#$% sandwiches but even Prometheus and AvP:R got a pass money wise, so did AvP2010 right?
That really does put Pitchford in a really bad place, not only because his game sucked and failed, but he bombed out on the franchise lol.
It never gets old when fans come out of the woodwork, people who you dont even expect to be fans of the series and say "I am a fan of the series and this thing sucked" and it makes me happy that reviewers and fans and gamers have all banded together to put this this game in its place. You dont f**k with Aliens and get away with it.
He should catch hell over this for forever, he should be an example of something wrong with entertainment (especially games (especially the Alien franchise)). If it means no more Borderlands then fine, im willing to trade that franchise for the one I love.
He has tried to point at his body of work to try and diminish the mistake he has made but Im gonna think "this company maimed my favorite movie" every time I hear their name. I hope everyone else does. Rebellion got what it deserved for AvP2010, this guy deserves worse.
Gearbox may go down and Randy may lose out on cash, but at the end of all this I think he probably will get away with it. I doubt he'll ever be poor. And he probably knows that given time things will blow over. It's only been a couple of weeks but the rants have already calmed way down compared to the week of the release. I think he's known what was coming for a long time and was prepared for all this hate. There's no way he didn't realise the amount of s**t he was gonna get. Sat behind his twitter account I don't think he gives a f*** about what anyone has to say anymore, unless it's positive of course.
Quote from: Taxemic on Feb 26, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Gearbox may go down and Randy may lose out on cash, but at the end of all this I think he probably will get away with it. I doubt he'll ever be poor. And he probably knows that given time things will blow over. It's only been a couple of weeks but the rants have already calmed way down compared to the week of the release. I think he's known what was coming for a long time and was prepared for all this hate. There's no way he didn't realise the amount of s**t he was gonna get. Sat behind his twitter account I don't think he gives a f*** about what anyone has to say anymore, unless it's positive of course.
His whole "lets be positive" thing is all he is trying to do in order to save himself. Sorta like if someone gets drunk, drives home and on the way manages to smash into the side of a building and stumbles out of his car saying "this is a learning experience so lets all try to remain positive here, but im totally not gonna fix the damage" when the police arrive.
If enough people think thats cool then yea he gets a free pass, but I would hope that people treat the situation for what it is, until something concrete is done about it. Its up to everyone who is a fan and a gamer or just has a sense of right and wrong to hold the guy accountable and punish him.
I think that everyone who holds his feet to the fire helps him become a better person and the more painful it is, the greater the understanding he will achieve.
I hope that people will take every opportunity they can from here on out in order to help Randy become a better person, rather than the real life Handsome Jack he has become. Maybe he wont have any personal growth from this experience and "just not give a f***" but thats really only if the customers think its ok.
Like I said, I'll never buy a gearbox game again. It's disgusting he is seemingly getting away with this virtually unscathed.
Quote from: Aceburster on Feb 26, 2013, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: Taxemic on Feb 26, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Gearbox may go down and Randy may lose out on cash, but at the end of all this I think he probably will get away with it. I doubt he'll ever be poor. And he probably knows that given time things will blow over. It's only been a couple of weeks but the rants have already calmed way down compared to the week of the release. I think he's known what was coming for a long time and was prepared for all this hate. There's no way he didn't realise the amount of s**t he was gonna get. Sat behind his twitter account I don't think he gives a f*** about what anyone has to say anymore, unless it's positive of course.
His whole "lets be positive" thing is all he is trying to do in order to save himself. Sorta like if someone gets drunk, drives home and on the way manages to smash into the side of a building and stumbles out of his car saying "this is a learning experience so lets all try to remain positive here, but im totally not gonna fix the damage" when the police arrive.
If enough people think thats cool then yea he gets a free pass, but I would hope that people treat the situation for what it is, until something concrete is done about it. Its up to everyone who is a fan and a gamer or just has a sense of right and wrong to hold the guy accountable and punish him.
I think that everyone who holds his feet to the fire helps him become a better person and the more painful it is, the greater the understanding he will achieve.
I hope that people will take every opportunity they can from here on out in order to help Randy become a better person, rather than the real life Handsome Jack he has become. Maybe he wont have any personal growth from this experience and "just not give a f***" but thats really only if the customers think its ok.
"LOL" and "LMAO" are bandied about too much these days - but this analogy truly made me LMAO! Excellent! :)
Randy just tweeted that they are working on patch work & other updates for A:CM
Source: Randy's twitter, twitter.com/duvalmagic
Date: Feb 27 2013
Quote from: Aceburster on Feb 26, 2013, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: Taxemic on Feb 26, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Gearbox may go down and Randy may lose out on cash, but at the end of all this I think he probably will get away with it. I doubt he'll ever be poor. And he probably knows that given time things will blow over. It's only been a couple of weeks but the rants have already calmed way down compared to the week of the release. I think he's known what was coming for a long time and was prepared for all this hate. There's no way he didn't realise the amount of s**t he was gonna get. Sat behind his twitter account I don't think he gives a f*** about what anyone has to say anymore, unless it's positive of course.
His whole "lets be positive" thing is all he is trying to do in order to save himself. Sorta like if someone gets drunk, drives home and on the way manages to smash into the side of a building and stumbles out of his car saying "this is a learning experience so lets all try to remain positive here, but im totally not gonna fix the damage" when the police arrive.
If enough people think thats cool then yea he gets a free pass, but I would hope that people treat the situation for what it is, until something concrete is done about it. Its up to everyone who is a fan and a gamer or just has a sense of right and wrong to hold the guy accountable and punish him.
I think that everyone who holds his feet to the fire helps him become a better person and the more painful it is, the greater the understanding he will achieve.
I hope that people will take every opportunity they can from here on out in order to help Randy become a better person, rather than the real life Handsome Jack he has become. Maybe he wont have any personal growth from this experience and "just not give a f***" but thats really only if the customers think its ok.
Ahahaha why yes, that was great!
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Crysis 3 already has a patch. They should have been working on a Day 1 patch for A CMs right outta the gate. The games been out plenty long enough now to have seen a MAJOR patch update. You know? A patch that afterwards, you can easilly tell stuff has been upgraded in the game.
Quote from: Shai`tan on Feb 28, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
Crysis 3 already has a patch. They should have been working on a Day 1 patch for A CMs right outta the gate. The games been out plenty long enough now to have seen a MAJOR patch update. You know? A patch that afterwards, you can easilly tell stuff has been upgraded in the game.
it was patched on day 1
Quote from: Shai`tan on Feb 28, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
Crysis 3 already has a patch. They should have been working on a Day 1 patch for A CMs right outta the gate. The games been out plenty long enough now to have seen a MAJOR patch update. You know? A patch that afterwards, you can easilly tell stuff has been upgraded in the game.
Add to the fact that Crysis, Crysis 2, Crysis 3 and their engine-components have been written in the same time it took from licencing to release of ACM by a company that is relatively young and puts Gearbox to shame when it comes to finishing, polish, coherent design and detailing.
I really think ACM isnt that bad of a game (just hope it stops crashing every uneven session), but the lack of attention for storytelling, scripting, poor distribution of textures, sub-par lighting effects and apparent choice for a more mainstream look (largely responsible for the look it now has) are just examples of poorly managing a project involving one of the dearest franchises in both film and gaming.
Fox, SEGA and Gearbox are equally wrong IMO, smaller studio's just provide what is asked.
I just got it for PC cause I just bought a Geforce 660. SO much better on PC. The jittering and mouth syncing issues are almost all gone. Seems like the consoles got shafted the most.
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Mar 01, 2013, 03:28:21 PM
I just got it for PC cause I just bought a Geforce 660. SO much better on PC. The jittering and mouth syncing issues are almost all gone. Seems like the consoles got shafted the most.
I've seen the PC shots. Looks way better not including the modders efforts. The modded screens I saw looked good. If I had a gaming laptop or a decent desktop I would have gotten ACM for those. Not my Xbox. I hope they do a high res texture download like Battlefield 3 did for Xbox. Who knows.
Even on PC it looks bad in plenty of places. The first room of the game has a texture on the monitor consoles near the door that literally looks like it was hand drawn in crayon and scanned, go look at it lol. The EXACT same texture is used in the SAME level later in "Keyes hive" room upside down, and in the first room you meet ONeal to the right of the door on the wall at higher quality.
Did they think people wouldnt run around with the flashlight on?
The sync issues arent bad and I dont see jitter or clipping unless I walk through someone, but I do see some lousy animations. Like they werent even trying. Think the only nice animations in the game are when you set the PMCs on fire and im pretty sure those are ripped right out of Borderlands.
Sure it runs smooth maxed out with full frame rate on PC without too many weird things happening but it makes the ugly stand out so much more. Game looks (on pc) like a 2001 game that people spent 6 years modding without the right tools. Cant imagine what it looks like on consoles. DNF pc has more polish than this game. D:
on PC it looks adequate, sometimes even shockingly impressive, but fails in many aspects.
Hardly comparable to Crysis, Crysis 2 or Crysis 3.
Also when I'm shooting with the precision of a mouse it still relates to an Xbox controller ala Ive got a 1 in 5 shot of my bullets hitting the target. Such piss poor hit detection in this game!!!
Okay, this is the end of the week... Where is the apology we were promised? Not that it would matter to me... But hell, just seeing that arrogant bastard admit he was a douche, it would be worth it! Well,maybe he said that so everyone would get off his back! Another lie! When we will learn? HAHAHAHA
Seirously though, an apology will not get my money back! Nor will it give Gearbox any credibility back from now on! They will make games, they will deceive some more, people will applaud if it's a success, bemoan if it's not, and so on and so forth... Nothing ever changes... Nothing ever will... c'est la vie... :(
It's okay. I won't be buying a Gearbox game ever again.
Neither am I, was planning on getting both Borderlands games brand spanking new, but I think I'll just go and buy them used. Gearbox deserves not one cent from me after this bullshit.
I love this Tweet by him:
QuoteThe only thing I care about is entertaining the world and making people happy.If we fail, we must try harder.
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/306549525257015296 (https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/306549525257015296)
:laugh: Aww look, it got one retweet, too. Bless.
Try harder, huh? How bout JUST TRY.
Randy has become such a tragic martyr. I admire his shamelessness.
This guy deserves a mullet...