Coming May 26, 2020.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1789094410/ref=sr_1_20?keywords=titan+books&qid=1569813133&s=books&sr=1-20
No synopsis as yet.
So the Predator EU is giving some signs of life. Took them long enough. :P
The guy that wrote Sea of Sorrows and The Predator prequel? Okay. I can dig that. SOS was my favorite from that trilogy and I quite liked the portrayal of the creature in his Predator novel, that would have been a better movie than The Predator. This got my blessing.
Hope they'll be a Mass Paperback version though.
Fantastic news! I loved Hunters and Hunted, it was far better than the movie IMHO. Very happy to see we're still getting more. Gives me hopes that the next anthology is going to happen.
That said, am not being taken to a product page via the link.
For a minute I got confused and though this was the guy who wrote the lacklustre The Predator novelisation, then I remembered he did the prequel, which I really enjoyed. Will keep an eye on this! Glad the novels are still ticking over.
I'd be wary about this one. Sadly James Moore appears to be quite ill at the moment. From his fundraising page im not sure he is even writing at the moment.
Hope he gets well soon. My best wishes to him.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Sep 30, 2019, 11:53:59 AM
I'd be wary about this one. Sadly James Moore appears to be quite ill at the moment. From his fundraising page im not sure he is even writing at the moment.
That's too bad :( Aside from the novel, I do hope he recovers. The fundraiser description sounds optimistic.
First and foremost I wish James a speedy recovery. But here's to hoping he writes another solid Predator novel as well.
I believe Jim is still trying to work despite his fight:
QuoteHe has a lot of books of his own left to write (including some for which he's currently on deadline), but at the moment, cancer's getting in the way, and he needs our help.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-author-james-a-moore?
Here's the fundraising if anyone else wants to contribute. Every little helps, even if it's just the cost of a book.
I had no idea he was so seriously ill. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
Wow, that's awful to hear. Absolutely wishing him well and a full recovery.
Hoping for the best, his The Predator Prequel was truly superb.
Synopsis from Amazon.
"An action-packed prequel to the new Illfonic video game PREDATOR: HUNTING GROUNDS - revealing deeply buried secrets in the battle between the ultimate hunters and their human prey.
This official prequel novel leads into the new Playstation 4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity. U.S. Marine Scott Devlin takes on a new assignment that begins with the clean-up of a Los Angeles combat scene revealing what appears to be alien weapons and tech. His next mission, to an equatorial jungle, seems like an assault on a drug cartel until his team finds human bodies, skinned and suspended from the trees. Justifiably freaked out, Devlin digs deeper and discovers hidden truths, clandestine agencies, savage opponents... and an unexpected ally."
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?
I quite the sounds of this! I like it tying into Predator 2 like that. Especially after how much I loved Hunters and Hunted, I'm really excited for this one!
Man... sooo seconded, Hicks! I'm
very excited about this, as well as with the notion that we might get a true follow-up to Predator 2 that many have been so desperately craving.
Sorry If It Bleeds - Drug War, but you just don't measure up in my book.Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 08:16:09 AM
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?
You're "excited" yet you're complaining in the same breath? Geez Kradan, what were you like as a kid on your Birthday?
I'm excited about my presents but why did I have to get so many? :P
Kudos to pic of a pred...with a fanny pack 👽😎
Quote from: Hudafook on Oct 14, 2019, 11:09:25 AM
Kudos to pic of a pred...with a fanny pack
Bug spray...
check. Sunscreen...
check. ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
You're "excited" yet you're complaining in the same breath?
I'm not complaining - it just seems to me they do prequel novels for the sake of it, not 'cause game really
needs prequel story . But again I'm excited there
any new Predator book coming out. They don't do that frequently these days, huh ?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
Geez Kradan, what were you like as a kid on your Birthday? I'm excited about my presents but why did I have to get so many? :P
:D
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Quote from: Hudafook on Oct 14, 2019, 11:09:25 AM
Kudos to pic of a pred...with a fanny pack
Bug spray... check. Sunscreen... check. ;D
It's totally utilitarian. I can see it :laugh:
:D
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
I'm not complaining - it just seems to me they do prequel novels for the sake of it, not 'cause game really needs prequel story . But again I'm excited there any new Predator book coming out. They don't do that frequently these days, huh ?
Well when it's EU, isn't it all technically prequels or sequels? ;)
But yeah, the IP Holders do love those tie-ins because the fans just eat them up. Not only will we buy the Predator Hunting Grounds game, but we'll buy the prequel novel, new associated pop figures, sugar cereal, and even buy and wear the Hunting Grounds socks too! ;D
Synopsis sounds good to me! Can't wait!
Now if Titan will give us two more omnibus with the DH press Predator novels (that I've never read) I'll truly be a happy camper.
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 08:16:09 AM
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?
Well Predator can go anywhere and given the last film takes place in 2018, even if it wasn't meant to be a tie-in to the game it's still a prequel because it takes place before the last film in the timeline. As well as since the Predators had been arriving for centuries if not more, a lot of stories would fall into the prequel camp inherently.
I just hope I don't see any The Predator references.
Loved Hunters and Hunted so this is great news.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 14, 2019, 07:56:07 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 08:16:09 AM
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?
Well Predator can go anywhere and given the last film takes place in 2018, even if it wasn't meant to be a tie-in to the game it's still a prequel because it takes place before the last film in the timeline. As well as since the Predators had been arriving for centuries if not more, a lot of stories would fall into the prequel camp inherently.
Hmm. That sounds very wise. I wonder if anyone else mentioned that before in this thread...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 02:09:13 PM
Well when it's EU, isn't it all technically prequels or sequels? ;)
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;D
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 14, 2019, 09:19:05 PM
I just hope I don't see any The Predator references.
Considering Stargazer was mentioned in the game's trailer, I fear it might be inevitable.
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Stargazer. It was just another iteration of OWLF. Like most of the aspects of The Predator, it was just in how they handled it. Given Jim also wrote the only real backstory and competent Stargazer we've seen in Hunters and Hunted, I expect we'll see more of them in this too. And I'm fine with that.
Predator 2 sequel. Nice.
This I might be interested in getting. I liked his work in Sea of Sorrows.
I'm sure there have been many hunts in LA, over the years.
I'm glad there's a new novel coming, I have no problems if Stargazer is incorporated into the story, "Hunters and Hunted" and "Hunters II" proved that you can make a great Predator story using elements of The Predator. But please, none of that "Predators want our DNA and they want to move to Earth" stuff, I just want our regular Predators that comes to hunt and collect trophies, but since it's the same author of Hunters and Hunted, I think we're good.
No update available yet.
Quote from: Katanu on Oct 23, 2019, 12:13:56 PM
I'm glad there's a new novel coming, I have no problems if Stargazer is incorporated into the story, "Hunters and Hunted" and "Hunters II" proved that you can make a great Predator story using elements of The Predator. But please, none of that "Predators want our DNA and they want to move to Earth" stuff, I just want our regular Predators that comes to hunt and collect trophies, but since it's the same author of Hunters and Hunted, I think we're good.
I honestly don't think they'll ever pick up that thread again.
Good riddance then.
Yeah. I think there are many of us that would breathe a sigh of relief if they just let that go...
Yes all of us.
I can't imagine them keeping to that following the response to it.
Annoys me no end that that was yet another thing forced in during the reshoots. So we nearly got the film without that b.s.
I would have been quite fine if hybridization was limited to a few outcast Predators explaining Super Predator mutations, sports hunters looking for an edge. To me, that idea has merit. But a 11 foot CG Predator chasing autism unfortunately went just too far.
It's just the suggestion of all of them doing it, calling it evolution, and the process itself being absolute nonsense.
Any news on the cover of this?
So far only the generic "not final cover".
I hope the final cover is not just another Wolf Predator.
We have an Audiobook!
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https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Stalking-Shadows/dp/B08375NHNY
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 19, 2020, 11:53:05 AM
We have an Audiobook!
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41tgMMztPrL.jpg
https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Stalking-Shadows/dp/B08375NHNY
I almost squealed. My half-asleep brain thought that said "Mark Rolston."
Ah, Mark got involved too. I hope that's not a bad sign in regards to James' health struggle.
My initial reaction was perhaps Mark was just doing the reading / audio recording, which he seemingly has done before, but yeah, that's usually for his own books. Most likely this is just wishful thinking by me. Hopefully he's okay.
Yeah, first I'm hearing of Mark being involved. Hope Moore's OK.
Maybe, hopefully, it's not over health? Christopher Golden was joined by Mark too and Golden's health has been fine as far as I can tell.
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Mark was brought on to deal with rewrites to that following all the reshoots because of Golden's availability. The concerns for this being about Jim's health is he was diagnosed with cancer recently, and perhaps Mark being brought on because of any issues meaning Jim isn't able to write atm.
Ah, damn. The reshoots. Well I got nothing then.
Yeah, I know about Moore's diagnosis and wish him the best. This is more me playing mental gymnastics trying to work-in a possibility that this was always the plan versus an artistic vision possibly being compromised.
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Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
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Nice find felix! Where did you locate that brother? Amazon US is still showing the temporary cover.
On the cover itself. It's okay, I guess? The soldier isn't in a very dynamic position. His gun is pointed too much to the right. And are those supposed to be bullets the soldier fired? Because artistically, it looks more like those bullets are coming towards the soldier, versus away.
It's a snipped version of the new wallpaper from Illfonic.
(https://media.playstation.com/is/image/SCEA/predator-hunting-grounds-desktop-wallpaper-01-1920x1080-en-us-24mar20?$native_xxl_nt$)
And the cover can be found here: https://bnccatalist.ca/viewtitle.aspx?ean=9781789094411
It's as good a screenshot as any to use, just a shame about the odd bullet placement given the cropping.
Wouldn't be the first time people have lost their shit during a Predator attack and ended up blasting their own.
Gold Tooth's cronies in Predator 2 anyone?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 31, 2020, 02:32:16 PM
It's a snipped version of the new wallpaper from Illfonic.
(https://media.playstation.com/is/image/SCEA/predator-hunting-grounds-desktop-wallpaper-01-1920x1080-en-us-24mar20?$native_xxl_nt$)
And the cover can be found here: https://bnccatalist.ca/viewtitle.aspx?ean=9781789094411
It's as good a screenshot as any to use, just a shame about the odd bullet placement given the cropping.
Ahh... I missed the wallpaper announcement. And the full image looks better and makes more sense across the board now. Yeah, the unfortunate cropping makes it odd.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 31, 2020, 02:42:56 PM
Wouldn't be the first time people have lost their shit during a Predator attack and ended up blasting their own.
Gold Tooth's cronies in Predator 2 anyone?
Except for blasting the one posse member who was already assumingly killed netted on the wall, they don't accidentally shoot each other.
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
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I might have bad taste :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.
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Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
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I might have bad taste :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.
So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me!
You have good taste!! ;D
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Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
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I might have bad taste :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.
So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me! You have good taste!! ;D
Haha :D That's a hill I'm prepared to die on!
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Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
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I might have bad taste :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.
So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me! You have good taste!! ;D
Haha :D That's a hill I'm prepared to die on!
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:laugh:
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.
A resounding
YES!!!! to that!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 02:50:23 PMExcept for blasting the one posse member who was already assumingly killed netted on the wall, they don't accidentally shoot each other.
He was still screaming and twitching when he gets sprayed, and I really don't get the impression his cronies knew or cared how he was feeling when they were nailing everything in the room, him included.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 08:04:37 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 02:50:23 PMExcept for blasting the one posse member who was already assumingly killed netted on the wall, they don't accidentally shoot each other.
He was still screaming and twitching when he gets sprayed, and I really don't get the impression his cronies knew or cared how he was feeling when they were nailing everything in the room, him included.
Unless dat mon can scream with his lips shut, dat mon wasn't screaming because hiz mouth was completely closed.
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And dat mon's body is gonna twitch when pelleted with bullets!
No I don't think this qualifies as friendly fire mon! ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 12:45:16 PMUnless dat mon can scream with his lips shut, dat mon wasn't screaming because hiz mouth was completely closed.
You mean like when Dutch whistles an instruction to his men in the first film despite his lips clearly not being pursed? ;)
It's a movie. The dude looks alive to me until he gets blasted. He didn't bleed out in the split second between him getting hit with the net and his pals hosing him down.
And even if he was dead - his mate's clearly still don't give a f*ck.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 03:51:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 12:45:16 PMUnless dat mon can scream with his lips shut, dat mon wasn't screaming because hiz mouth was completely closed.
You mean like when Dutch whistles an instruction to his men in the first film despite his lips clearly not being pursed? ;)
It's a movie. The dude looks alive to me until he gets blasted. He didn't bleed out in the split second between him getting hit with the net and his pals hosing him down.
And even if he was dead - his mate's clearly still don't give a f*ck.
Did you just compare a whistle to a scream?
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We'll just have to agree to disagree..... mon. ;D
No, just pointing out the state of his lips has nothing to do with whether or not a person is making a noise in the world of movies.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
No, just pointing out the state of his lips has nothing to do with whether or not a person is making a noise in the world of movies.
Yes, I know that, but you said "he was still screaming" not making a noise (which neither happens technically). So you keep moving the goal post on me instead of conceding the point! :P
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 11:00:46 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.
A resounding YES!!!! to that!
No more untill they release digital version of South China Sea so I can read it !
A print reprint as well.
You gents need to add Turnabout to that reprint list! :)
Cover in high resolution:
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Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.
A resounding YES!!!! to that!
No more untill they release digital version of South China Sea so I can read it !
What do fans have to do to have the privilege of laying our peepers on this? Besides being prepared to massively throw down :'(
My advice would be to be patient and keep hunting.
I snagged a copy a few weeks back for a fairly reasonable price. It was still kinda expensive for a paperback, but we're talking about three times what a new one would normally go for rather than the extortionate prices it usually seems to fetch.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 03, 2020, 07:54:54 AM
My advice would be to be patient and keep hunting.
I snagged a copy a few weeks back for a fairly reasonable price. It was still kinda expensive for a paperback, but we're talking about three times what a new one would normally go for rather than the extortionate prices it usually seems to fetch.
That's the plan, cause these current prices are larceny :o How long did you have to wait before a decent opportunity presented itself?
I can't actually remember when I started collecting the older novels. But we're talking years rather than months :P
Let's hope Titan Books does a omnibus compilations for the old Predator novels.
Perhaps a pertition?
I have wondered why they never did that with the Predator DH Press books. Seems weird that they'd do collections for the Aliens ones but stop after the Bantam books for Predator, especially as the DH Press Predator books are so much better than the Bantam ones (Forever Midnight notwithstanding).
Quote from: felix on Apr 04, 2020, 09:18:35 AM
Let's hope Titan Books does a omnibus compilations for the old Predator novels.
Perhaps a pertition?
I'd sign it!
I am serious about the petition. How do we go about it?
Quote from: felix on Apr 05, 2020, 03:17:57 AM
I am serious about the petition. How do we go about it?
Change.org I guess?
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Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
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I might have bad taste :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.
So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me! You have good taste!! ;D
You are not alone, we walk amongst you!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
No, just pointing out the state of his lips has nothing to do with whether or not a person is making a noise in the world of movies.
Yes, I know that, but you said "he was still screaming" not making a noise (which neither happens technically). So you keep moving the goal post on me instead of conceding the point! :P
You know what? I tell you what I believe.
Shit 'Appens!
Read an excerpt.
https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=9D7ZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT193&dq=predator+stalking&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi71qjTtKjpAhUSILcAHRL7D1wQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Quote from: felix on May 10, 2020, 04:02:34 AM
Read an excerpt.
https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=9D7ZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT193&dq=predator+stalking&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi71qjTtKjpAhUSILcAHRL7D1wQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Nice find felix!
I read the first two pages and.........
SOLD!
Really looking forward to this. After listening to the OWLF files from "Hunting Grounds" I'm especially intrigued!
Yeaahhhh buddy!
Apparently this has dropped early in the UK.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2020, 12:05:24 PM
Apparently this has dropped early in the UK.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Book Birthday to me and Jim! This is my 29th published novel. Out today! <a href="https://t.co/0CIo3H30az">https://t.co/0CIo3H30az</a></p>— Mark Morris (@MarkMorris10) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkMorris10/status/1260897367479418881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
According to Amazon today is the official release date, so I don't know about early. However, mine still hasn't got a delivery date yet :s
Amazon to me says "This title will be released on May 26, 2020"
None of the linked UK stores have it in stock either.
Like Hicks, I haven't been able to find anywhere actually stocking this.
We're still in lockdown here in Singapore. So i won't be getting this till next month.
Amazon here says its release date is May 26th.
The kindle edition was delivered to my device, will start reading it later tonight!
Amazon update says I'll be getting my book on Sunday
Spoiler
Started reading late yesterday, so just managed to finish the prologue and chapter 1. So far it ties really well with Predator 2, dealing with the aftermath of City Hunter's and Harrigan's confrontation, with the OWLF in LA trying to salvage something out of the mess that the operation was. Was not expecting Dutch to be in this, really nice to finally see him again and find out what happened to him after Predator.
So far so good!
Quote from: Stitch on May 16, 2020, 01:09:29 AM
Amazon update says I'll be getting my book on Sunday
Really? What country are you in brother?
I've also got it on Kindle. It wasn't available on the 14th like claimed. Physical copies aren't up on any of the linked stores either, same on Amazon. I'm suffering through the ebook version until they're available. Only 2 and a bit chapters in so far, but enjoying it. It ties into the OWLF tapes so far which is nice to see.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2020, 07:37:43 AM
I've also got it on Kindle. It wasn't available on the 14th like claimed. Physical copies aren't up on any of the linked stores either, same on Amazon. I'm suffering through the ebook version until they're available. Only 2 and a bit chapters in so far, but enjoying it. It ties into the OWLF tapes so far which is nice to see.
How well does it tie into the short stories from "if It Bleeds"?
It doesn't as of yet and honestly I'm not expecting it to.
Actual print copies are up on Amazon. Ordered one last night, should be here tomorrow. Can't wait, I just hate this e-reading business.
Nice, I'll have to snag myself a copy.
I actually enjoy reading on kindle. I always buy a physical copy for the collection, and prefer reading the real thing, but I don't mind reading an ebook. I live in Brazil and I have no idea when my copy will arrive, maybe next month, so kindle it'll be for now.
I actually did receive my copy on the 17th, but haven't started it yet.
While I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.
My copy should be arriving today!
Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 12:32:34 AMWhile I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.
Perhaps they've just upgraded it?
Come to think of it, are there any future-set stories where it's stated as being affected by water? I don't recall it ever being addressed in
Forever Midnight,
Flesh and Blood or the Rage War novels, but I could be wrong.
To be fair, it doesn't seem to short it out as badly as in Predator, but it is certainly not working flawlessly. It was a problem I had with Hunters and Hunted and Jim said he liked to envision they'd upgraded the cloak so water wouldn't affect it as much.
I'm about 140 pages into it. I'm enjoyed it but
Spoiler
I just wish there was more Dutch. Too much time is being spent with Devlin, and he's still playing catch-up with the reader.
Spoiler
Dutch is in there !? HOLY SHIT !
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 20, 2020, 07:34:25 AM
My copy should be arriving today!
Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 12:32:34 AMWhile I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.
Perhaps they've just upgraded it?
Come to think of it, are there any future-set stories where it's stated as being affected by water? I don't recall it ever being addressed in Forever Midnight, Flesh and Blood or the Rage War novels, but I could be wrong.
Perhaps, that's one way to explain it.
But the chapter in question takes place in 2000. It's not that far from Predator 2. Wolf's cloaking device was affected by water in AvP-R, that takes place in 2004. And probably other tales around that time had the Predator's cloaking device being affected by water, I honestly can't remember right now, I would have to check. Anyway, like I said, it's no big deal, just a minor issue.
I think in Hunters And Hunted the cloaking works fine in the rain too during a scene.
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I'm about 2/3s of the way through now and Devlin has finally been brought up to speed. Hope these last 100 pages take it up a notch or two. Also some hinky promotions going on in this. Private to Sergeant, and then Sarge to Captain.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 20, 2020, 09:50:01 PM
I think in Hunters And Hunted the cloaking works fine in the rain too during a scene.
It did. It was my only real nerd complaint of the book.
Admittedly I'm only one (fairly long) chapter in so far but to be brutally honest I'm really not enjoying this.
Far too much dumb shit has annoyed me already. For instance:
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- If you're going to recreate scenes from one of the movies, for f*ck's sake make them match the movie. The opening sequence set during and immediately after the ending of Predator 2 is littered with inconsistencies. Most glaringly, instead of emerging from a tunnel in an apparently deserted area of town, we've got the Predators' ship exploding out of the ground in the middle of a neighbourhood, leaving a massive crater, demolishing buildings and killing scores of innocent bystanders. (Aside from not matching the film, this doesn't gel with the Predators' established M.O. of only killing worthy adversaries and staying hidden as much as possible either.) There are also said to be dozens more bodies down in the crater, implied to be mutilated Predator victims, yet we never see any evidence of these in the movie. And Garber watches Harrigan rise from the ashes on the surface outside when this happens deep underground long before Garber arrives on the scene in the film. Incorporating movie scenes and getting them wrong like this has been a pet peeve of mine since River of Pain, and this book's all over it. All you'd need to do is watch the scene in question, even once, and you'd catch most of these.
- The inclusion of Sean Keyes and Dutch has thus far felt entirely tenuous. Keyes, Jr. in particular makes no sense being around at the end of P2. He's said to be the Regional Director of OWLF, yet if the actor's age is even remotely accurate to his character he'd be in his mid-20s at the time. Regional Director at that age? Moreover, the film gives the distinct impression OWLF is a small, clandestine unit operating off the books, so it seems highly improbable it would even have Regional Directors. Is that not a bit... official?
- Similarly, Dutch's appearance at the scene doesn't make a whole bunch of sense, at least not the way it's portrayed in the book. He basically steals an OWLF chopper from a government building to get there instead of just, you know, driving. Garber even flies it for him. And no one cares.
- Considering an entire OWLF team just got massacred by one of the creatures, it doesn't make a lick of sense that Keyes recruits just one soldier for protection when he goes to investigate a potential Predator encounter elsewhere in the city. If OWLF can boss the military around like that, why not take the entire unit?
- And if OWLF can boss the military around like that, why do Garber and the other surviving agents run off at the end of Predator 2 as soon as the cops show up?
I really hope this picks up once it moves on to more original material because I quite like the concept of following one soldier over several years as he goes through assignments around the world and climbs the ranks, uncovering more about the Predators as he goes. But so far this novel has read like bad fanfic.
Mine still hasn't shipped yet from Amazon.
That's what I get for letting my Prime membership run out I guess.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 20, 2020, 07:34:25 AM
My copy should be arriving today!
Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 12:32:34 AMWhile I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.
Perhaps they've just upgraded it?
Come to think of it, are there any future-set stories where it's stated as being affected by water? I don't recall it ever being addressed in Forever Midnight, Flesh and Blood or the Rage War novels, but I could be wrong.
Perhaps, that's one way to explain it.
But the chapter in question takes place in 2000. It's not that far from Predator 2. Wolf's cloaking device was affected by water in AvP-R, that takes place in 2004. And probably other tales around that time had the Predator's cloaking device being affected by water, I honestly can't remember right now, I would have to check. Anyway, like I said, it's no big deal, just a minor issue.
Haven't got my copy yet but it could be explained by different models of the device being affected in different capacity. So different Predators will have slightly different responses to the elements considering the tech. In AVP the Predator's cloaks work fine in the snow and so we could assume the tech has gotten better and just that not all Predators have the modern tech. I believe Fugitive was also being coated in blood and it didn't affect his cloak aside from his eyes being visible so if his cloak was affected it's just not in such extreme cases as Jungle Hunter short-circuiting.
I'm a bit further in now and I've started enjoying it more. It's still not a particularly remarkable read thus far but it's settled down into an entertaining time-passer.
I expect it'll be picked up on later, but I'm pretty sure the unnamed government suit whose goons Devlin just squared off with was
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Traeger.
Seems to be
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they're supposed to be Stargazer.
Yo guys, can someone tell me if the book fixes the stuff that The Predator did? undo the autism retcons and stuff
I guess it just won't be ever mentioned in any Predator-related media
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 22, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
Yo guys, can someone tell me if the book fixes the stuff that The Predator did? undo the autism retcons and stuff
It's set before The Predator. I'm halfway in and so far no mention of DNA harvesting or any of that crap.
I'm waiting for the children's series of novels to be released.
Rory McKenna and his Magical World of Predator Hunters
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I wouldn't mind that. I mean, we've already got Alien books for kids, haven't we ?
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Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 22, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
Yo guys, can someone tell me if the book fixes the stuff that The Predator did? undo the autism retcons and stuff
While I don't have my copy yet its worth mentioning that seemingly the only carryover is Stargazer as an antagonistic force but otherwise the hybridization is a trait only left to the Assassin and the Fugitive Predators.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2020, 09:46:08 AMSeems to be Spoiler
they're supposed to be Stargazer.
Definitely the vibe I got, to the point where I assumed it would be clarified later on.
My review is up: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/predator-stalking-shadows-review/
Beware minor spoilers.
Wow thst was fast! Still waiting on delivery of mine. :-\
Oh boy. I'm about to place an order for this and suddenly see it's co-authored by Mark Morris...who co-wrote The Predator novelization. I will temper my expectations and hopefully I'll come out on top this time.
Quote from: Hudson on May 25, 2020, 04:52:15 PM
Oh boy. I'm about to place an order for this and suddenly see it's co-authored by Mark Morris...who co-wrote The Predator novelization. I will temper my expectations and hopefully I'll come out on top this time.
I believe Mark Morris only came in and pinched hit in the finale innings for James Moore, as Moore struggled with health issues. So I'd assume the book is more Moore than Morris.
Finished this today. Hicks' review is pretty much spot-on in terms of reflecting my own thoughts. The core concept could've been interesting but it took way too long (more than half the novel) to get going and overall it felt terribly uninspired and by-the-numbers. There are worse Predator books, but I can't think of any as bland as this.
Other than the Isolation adaptation I'd rate this as comfortably the weakest Titan novel.
I enjoyed the majority of it. The way the different chapters start in different years made me think that it could work well as a miniseries.
I thought the ending was a bit abrupt, though. Wasn't enough build up, and it was over a bit too quickly for it to be satisfying. I even had to reread a bit to make sure I hasn't missed anything. I hadn't, it just ended.
I'd give it a 7, I think. The expanded lore and the character perspective was good, as was the continued story of Dutch, but there was teased information implying a story which might have been better than the one told.
That's pretty much what I think too.
Quote from: Stitch on May 31, 2020, 04:59:00 AM
I enjoyed the majority of it. The way the different chapters start in different years made me think that it could work well as a miniseries.
It's why I thought another anthology might have been a better way to tell this story.
Finally finished this!
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The novel felt more akin to a diary than a traditional narrative as we skipped through Devlin's military career. So in that way it kinda reminded me of "Bloody Sands of Time". I really enjoyed every Predator encounter but I will gripe that all of the Preds were too brazen, attacking an entire squad of soldiers, as opposed to stalking their prey and picking them off one by one. I enjoyed the inclusion of Dutch and was able to "hear" his voice when I read his dialogue and I liked how Devlin's team and Dutch's path would cross due to military assignments.
All in all, the book wasn't what I expected but I still had a good time reading it.
So Scott Devlin is supposed to be
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Zeus from the game for those interested.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 08:07:29 AM
So Scott Devlin is supposed to be Spoiler
Zeus from the game for those interested.
As in the (effectively) narrator who briefs you at the beginning of the mission?
And throughout the missions, yes.
I figured as much but good to have confirmation. They probably should've mentioned
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Zeus
in the actual book though.
Yeah, I thought the same. I did suspect he was Devlin given the epilogue, but was nice to have confirmed.
Errrrr so Scott ends up working with....... and regarding if he lives or dies, he...... ?
Spoilers!! I'm only halfway done! :P
Out of curiosity who confirmed it? Jim Moore? Illfonic?
I'm betting the Illfonic guys.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 12, 2020, 12:12:26 PM
Errrrr so Scott ends up working with....... and regarding if he lives or dies, he...... ?
Spoilers!! I'm only halfway done! :P
Ooops. Sorry. Spoiler tags added.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 12, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
I'm betting the Illfonic guys.
Yeah, Jared confirmed it in our interview. Just editing it now.
Really looking forward to that one
It was a good one! Nearly finished my first pass on it this morning. Really looking forward to that one going out.
Just finished this one last night. I enjoyed it very much. As a timeline junkie I enjoyed how this flowed with Predator, Predator 2, The Predator and Hunting Grounds Dutch recordings. Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.
Quote from: lightsyder on Jun 18, 2020, 06:16:00 PM
Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.
Big Game?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 18, 2020, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Jun 18, 2020, 06:16:00 PM
Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.
Big Game?
Yep, the NM encounter sounded like the same location as the final fight from the comic
I caught that too! The Zuni-Bandera lava fields are in the same national park as the Malpaise from "Big Game". As for timeline "Big Game" takes place in 1990 so way before Devlin's time. But it's cool to see that there's specific hunting grounds that the predators like to frequent.
Exactly what I thought! Add in Good on Two Witch Mesa and NM seems to be a favorite hunting ground
Quote from: lightsyder on Jun 18, 2020, 06:16:00 PM
Just finished this one last night. I enjoyed it very much. As a timeline junkie I enjoyed how this flowed with Predator, Predator 2, The Predator and Hunting Grounds Dutch recordings. Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.
That's good to hear. I'm a sucker for continuity/consistency, so definite plus for me :)
My copy of Stalking Shadows came in.
Level with me. Is it any good? (I haven't read the comments above(
It's meh. It's not the worse, but it's nowhere near good. It's a waste of a Predator novel.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2020, 12:17:29 PM
It's meh. It's not the worse, but it's nowhere near good. It's a waste of a Predator novel.
Ouch.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a waste BUT it certainly wasn't what I expected. The book is more like a diary than a normal narrative so expect a lot of time jumps. In some ways it felt like an anthology with all these snippets of different encounters. Having read "Forever Midnight" for the first time right after reading this, I can confidently say that this is nowhere near the worst Predator novel though.
Honestly, I think an actual anthology would be have been better.
And yeah...Forever Midnight is...not good.
Hicks is right in his assessment that this book is entirely average. It's neither bad nor good, just very by-the-numbers.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 09, 2020, 11:34:38 AM
Honestly, I think an actual anthology would be have been better.
And yeah...Forever Midnight is...not good.
Yeah I agree an anthology would've been better. I still hope the book sells well enough so that Titan gives us more Predator novels though.
This was mediocre. The mystery didn't work and military side was very clunky.
Hunters and Hunted was great and didn't have these problems though.
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?
Both AvP movies supposedly take place around Oct 2004, and the book kinda hops over that between chapter 6 and 7, Scotland in Sept 2004 and Mexico in Sept 2005 respectively. All of the events of Bouvetøya were really isolated but we know some of the recovered artifacts ended up with Project Stargazer. Gunnison Colorado of course was nuked by a branch of the OWLF and we know the artifacts recovered from that ended up in the private sector with Yutani Industries. The perspective of the book is entirely from one character who is an outsider to all of these organizations, so no direct references are made and the main character doesn't even have a solid foundation of awareness of extraterrestrials until later.
It can be assumed that events surrounding the destruction of Gunnison were covered up and played off as a natural disaster, like a meteor strike or atmospheric comet explosion like the Tunguska Fireball or something. So the book doesn't go out of its way to ignore these events, the main character Devlin just doesn't have any reason to refer to them since he isn't in the know. The whole book plays much more like an X-Files type mystery stretched across the span of a number of years as Devlin lives his life and slowly gathers pieces of the much larger picture whenever he crosses paths with Dutch.
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Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?
Both AvP movies supposedly take place around Oct 2004, and the book kinda hops over that between chapter 6 and 7, Scotland in Sept 2004 and Mexico in Sept 2005 respectively. All of the events of Bouvetøya were really isolated but we know some of the recovered artifacts ended up with Project Stargazer. Gunnison Colorado of course was nuked by a branch of the OWLF and we know the artifacts recovered from that ended up in the private sector with Yutani Industries. The perspective of the book is entirely from one character who is an outsider to all of these organizations, so no direct references are made and the main character doesn't even have a solid foundation of awareness of extraterrestrials until later.
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game, the fact it straight up ignores the AvP movies is a good sign honestly
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?
Both AvP movies supposedly take place around Oct 2004, and the book kinda hops over that between chapter 6 and 7, Scotland in Sept 2004 and Mexico in Sept 2005 respectively. All of the events of Bouvetøya were really isolated but we know some of the recovered artifacts ended up with Project Stargazer. Gunnison Colorado of course was nuked by a branch of the OWLF and we know the artifacts recovered from that ended up in the private sector with Yutani Industries. The perspective of the book is entirely from one character who is an outsider to all of these organizations, so no direct references are made and the main character doesn't even have a solid foundation of awareness of extraterrestrials until later.
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game, the fact it straight up ignores the AvP movies is a good sign honestly
I guess. If one is a detractor of the AvP franchise, then yes, the ambiguity will comfort any sensitivities. Though a distinction should be made between simply not referring to events and blatantly contradicting events. This book does the former, not the latter, so all fandom teams are respected.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
Yeah the actual game itself with the OWLF Recordings and Dutch tapes actually bridges the game more thoroughly to Predator, Predator 2 and The Predator than Stalking Shadows ever does. With a few brief exceptions, this book really just supplies fans the backstory to
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Zeus.
If you're a crazy pants, like me, and you want some chronological context here's a smattering of events in chronological order with the game specific media in italics...
1987.0000 Predator
1987.0912 Dutch Recordings Debriefing
1991.0408 Dutch Recordings Folklore
1992.0627 Dutch Recordings Patience
1996.0223 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 1 – Onboarding
1996.0303 Dutch Recordings Hades
1996.1203 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 2 – Research
1997.0212 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 3 – Development
1997.0702 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 4 – Los Angeles
1997.0702 Predator 2
1997.0708 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 5 – Go Time
1997.0708 Stalking Shadows Prologue Los Angeles
1997.0709 Stalking Shadows Chapter 01
1997.0710 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 6 – Aftermath
1997.0710 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 7 – Meeting Dutch
1997.0711 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 8 – Benefactors
1997.0921 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 9 – Helmet and Arm
1997.1012 Dutch Recordings Strange Bedfellows
1997.1201 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 10 – Technological Finds
1998.0312 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 11 – Dutch and Team Dispatched
1998.0409 Stalking Shadows Chapter 02
1998.0914 Predator - Homeworld
1999.0000 AvP - e. Old Secrets
1999.0319 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 12 – Plasma Caster
2000.0101 Stalking Shadows Chapter 03
2000.0401 Stalking Shadows Chapter 04
2001.0404 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 13 – Close Encounter
2002.0900 Stalking Shadows Chapter 05 - 3rd Wk of Sept
2004.0000 Alien vs Predator [Film]
2004.0900 Stalking Shadows Chapter 06 - 1st wk of Sept
2004.1027 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 14 – A Body
2005.0829 Predator - If It Bleeds - e. Storm Blood
2005.0900 Stalking Shadows Chapter 07 - 1st wk of Sept
2006.0500 Stalking Shadows Chapter 08 - 3rd wk of May
2007.0000 AvP - Sand Trap
2007.0708 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 15 – Anniversary
2007.1200 Stalking Shadows Chapter 09 - 2nd wk of Dec
2008.0303 Dutch Recordings Napolean
2008.0310 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 16 – Dutch's Run In
2008.1117 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 17 – Recovery
2010.0524 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 18 – Calm
2011.0700 Stalking Shadows Chapter 10 - 2nd wk of July
2013.0700 Stalking Shadows Chapter 11 - 1st wk of July
2013.0800 Stalking Shadows Chapter 12 - 1st wk of Aug
2015.0303 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 19 – Funding Issues
2016.0829 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 20 – Stargazer Final entry
2016.1027 Predator - Hunter and Hunted
2017.0000 Predator - If It Bleeds - c. Rematch
2017.0000 Predator - Hunters
2017.0000 Predator - Hunters II
2017.0000 Predator - Hunters III
2018.0000 The Predator
2018.0113 Dutch Recordings Stargazer
2019.0000 Predator - If It Bleeds - Tin Warrior
2022.0000 Predator - If It Bleeds - n. Drug War
2023.0800 Stalking Shadows Epilogue Ten Years Later
2024.0000 AvP - Eternal
2025.0400 Predator - Hunting Grounds
2025.0730 Dutch Recordings Still Hunting
2030.0000 Predator - Concrete Jungle (Eurocom, PS2 Xbox game)
But keep in mind, the DLC's are still coming out, so who knows what new lore is still coming down the pipe. I personally really want to know about this Big Mama yaut that branded Dutch's face, I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of her.
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
This official prequel novel leads into the new PlayStation®4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity.Also they mention a huge blackout on 2010 with the Predator tech, could be referencing Predators, who knows
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
This official prequel novel leads into the new PlayStation®4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity.
Also they mention a huge blackout on 2010 with the Predator tech, could be referencing Predators, who knows
Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 12:55:39 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
This official prequel novel leads into the new PlayStation®4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity.
Also they mention a huge blackout on 2010 with the Predator tech, could be referencing Predators, who knows
Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
I'll try finding it tomorrow
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 01:21:56 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 12:55:39 AM
Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
I'll try finding it tomorrow
Ah! I think you might be referring to the Pred tech surge described in the May 24th 2010 OWLF Recording #18. The writing is kinda weird for those recordings, but Keyes is describing an incident that occurred shortly after Dutch's run-in with the female Predator in early March of 2008, where he got his face scars. It may come up again in a future DLC, I hope it will, but as-is it's just a weird and ambiguous reference. That is, of course, if this is indeed what you might be thinking of. But I could be wrong.
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 05:50:39 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 01:21:56 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 12:55:39 AM
Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
I'll try finding it tomorrow
Ah! I think you might be referring to the Pred tech surge described in the May 24th 2010 OWLF Recording #18. The writing is kinda weird for those recordings, but Keyes is describing an incident that occurred shortly after Dutch's run-in with the female Predator in early March of 2008, where he got his face scars. It may come up again in a future DLC, I hope it will, but as-is it's just a weird and ambiguous reference. That is, of course, if this is indeed what you might be thinking of. But I could be wrong.
That's probably it, I wonder if it has something to do with Predators, we may know in the future, maybe we'll get a Royce update with audio logs too lmao
I've not played Hunting Grounds but a DLC with a Super Predator encounter would be cool. Maybe add the hunting planet as a map. Player team is captured and dropped off. Be neat, also good way to the in some extra lore updates!
Quote from: lightsyder on Jul 27, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
I've not played Hunting Grounds but a DLC with a Super Predator encounter would be cool. Maybe add the hunting planet as a map. Player team is captured and dropped off. Be neat, also good way to the in some extra lore updates!
2010 Berserker is in the files so we might be getting that son
Our podcast review is now up: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2020/07/27/learning-with-zeus-reviewing-predator-stalking-shadows-avp-galaxy-podcast-113/
Nice! Checking it out right now! Thanks!
listening to the audible dramatization while I mow grass. Really like what this book is doing with dutch and keys, just wanted to drop by and say that.
Halfway through the youtube vers and Voodoo is cracking me up detailing Ellison supposed assassination plan for Dutch, two Hillbilly's and a transient, man. I guess that's all they had in the mib's assassination budget.
i just have to give voodoo a shout-out for his pronunciation of hicks' and my name; so often, people pronounce it "air-on" :P
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 28, 2020, 01:47:50 AM
Halfway through the youtube vers and Voodoo is cracking me up detailing Ellison supposed assassination plan for Dutch, two Hillbilly's and a transient, man. I guess that's all they had in the mib's assassination budget.
Haha, I still feel guilty over some technical problems I was having so I'm glad I could create some laughs. But I know, right? Ellison can't put a sniper somewhere on a roof ready for Dutch to leave the bar? Instead he hires a homeless man? Maybe we should just be happy he was trying to give the homeless employment. :laugh:
Quote from: j0nesy on Jul 28, 2020, 10:06:56 PM
i just have to give voodoo a shout-out for his pronunciation of hicks' and my name; so often, people pronounce it "air-on" :P
lol , appreciate it. I guess my English teacher deserves the credit for that one. :)
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 11:07:03 PM
If you're a crazy pants, like me, and you want some chronological context here's a smattering of events in chronological order with the game specific media in italics...
1987.0000 Predator
1987.0912 Dutch Recordings Debriefing
1991.0408 Dutch Recordings Folklore
1992.0627 Dutch Recordings Patience
1996.0223 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 1 – Onboarding
1996.0303 Dutch Recordings Hades
1996.1203 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 2 – Research
1997.0212 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 3 – Development
1997.0702 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 4 – Los Angeles
1997.0702 Predator 2
1997.0708 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 5 – Go Time
1997.0708 Stalking Shadows Prologue Los Angeles
1997.0709 Stalking Shadows Chapter 01
1997.0710 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 6 – Aftermath
1997.0710 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 7 – Meeting Dutch
1997.0711 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 8 – Benefactors
1997.0921 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 9 – Helmet and Arm
1997.1012 Dutch Recordings Strange Bedfellows
1997.1201 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 10 – Technological Finds
1998.0312 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 11 – Dutch and Team Dispatched
1998.0409 Stalking Shadows Chapter 02
1998.0914 Predator - Homeworld
1999.0000 AvP - e. Old Secrets
1999.0319 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 12 – Plasma Caster
2000.0101 Stalking Shadows Chapter 03
2000.0401 Stalking Shadows Chapter 04
2001.0404 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 13 – Close Encounter
2002.0900 Stalking Shadows Chapter 05 - 3rd Wk of Sept
2004.0000 Alien vs Predator [Film]
2004.0900 Stalking Shadows Chapter 06 - 1st wk of Sept
2004.1027 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 14 – A Body
2005.0829 Predator - If It Bleeds - e. Storm Blood
2005.0900 Stalking Shadows Chapter 07 - 1st wk of Sept
2006.0500 Stalking Shadows Chapter 08 - 3rd wk of May
2007.0000 AvP - Sand Trap
2007.0708 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 15 – Anniversary
2007.1200 Stalking Shadows Chapter 09 - 2nd wk of Dec
2008.0303 Dutch Recordings Napolean
2008.0310 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 16 – Dutch's Run In
2008.1117 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 17 – Recovery
2010.0524 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 18 – Calm
2011.0700 Stalking Shadows Chapter 10 - 2nd wk of July
2013.0700 Stalking Shadows Chapter 11 - 1st wk of July
2013.0800 Stalking Shadows Chapter 12 - 1st wk of Aug
2015.0303 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 19 – Funding Issues
2016.0829 OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes 20 – Stargazer Final entry
2016.1027 Predator - Hunter and Hunted
2017.0000 Predator - If It Bleeds - c. Rematch
2017.0000 Predator - Hunters
2017.0000 Predator - Hunters II
2017.0000 Predator - Hunters III
2018.0000 The Predator
2018.0113 Dutch Recordings Stargazer
2019.0000 Predator - If It Bleeds - Tin Warrior
2022.0000 Predator - If It Bleeds - n. Drug War
2023.0800 Stalking Shadows Epilogue Ten Years Later
2024.0000 AvP - Eternal
2025.0400 Predator - Hunting Grounds
2025.0730 Dutch Recordings Still Hunting
2030.0000 Predator - Concrete Jungle (Eurocom, PS2 Xbox game)
But keep in mind, the DLC's are still coming out, so who knows what new lore is still coming down the pipe. I personally really want to know about this Big Mama yaut that branded Dutch's face, I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of her.
That's nice. Thanks.
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 27, 2020, 10:45:35 PM
listening to the audible dramatization while I mow grass. Really like what this book is doing with dutch and keys, just wanted to drop by and say that.
I just listened to the sample. Er... Hmm. That's an interesting Arnie impression. Sounds more like Udo Kier.
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 29, 2020, 01:30:36 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 27, 2020, 10:45:35 PM
listening to the audible dramatization while I mow grass. Really like what this book is doing with dutch and keys, just wanted to drop by and say that.
I just listened to the sample. Er... Hmm. That's an interesting Arnie impression. Sounds more like Udo Kier.
Lol. Yeah, James Patrick Cronin has been doing all the Predator Audiobooks lately, you can tell early on in Stalking Shadows that he's deliberately trying Not to do an Arnie impression, but that goal was a bit too herculean and his Dutch voice is kinda all over the map for most of the book. Later on towards the end he sorta settle's on Arnie-light and it feels a bit more comfortable.
Ironically enough, the Dutch tapes from the game are using the real Arnie, which is mostly awesome but kinda weirdly not Dutch-like sometimes. Like in the recording from March 3rd 2008 right after his entire squad is killed and he only survives because the big Female Yaut lets him live after scarring him up, he just kinda glides over the fact that all his buddies were just slaughtered in front of him. but eh. c'est la vie. Mr Schwarzenegger is incredibly awesome for even being a part of this.
Hoping Mr. Glover is next!
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something
royce and isabelle double whammy! :laugh:
Needs a dlc set on the game preserve planet. Give us some lore for all that! Lol.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something
Or Bill Paxton's son as a character! He sounds so much like his dad. "
Hey, hunting down alien creatures is my specialty!"
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something
Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 31, 2020, 02:46:14 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something
Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...
Speaking of that, we gonna ignore the fact that two games have now copied AVP eternal's vampirizing premise lol.
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 31, 2020, 04:14:29 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 31, 2020, 02:46:14 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something
Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...
Speaking of that, we gonna ignore the fact that two games have now copied AVP eternal's vampirizing premise lol.
It's pretty fascinating actually, what started as movie magic from the first aid scenes with the Jungle and City Hunters, got expanded quite a bit in the games with the UV crystal shard things that heal your pred up proper, and now 30 years later, genuine science is exploring the miraculous efficiency of undifferentiated stem cells and biologically based nano-technology, and suddenly it all doesn't seem so far fetched any more.
If Yautja, being as advanced as they are, have blood that is infused with what are essentially artificially produced, self-replicating stem cells, powered internally by the natural biological processes and storing their charge in the form of phosphorescent cells, then they would have the ability to be externally charged by exposure to higher energy UV stimulation when those natural biological functions become impaired or compromised. Just like holding a black light up to a glow stick.
From: https://www.thoughtco.com/fluorescence-versus-phosphorescence-4063769
Quotea phosphorescent material absorbs high energy light (usually ultraviolet), causing the electrons to move into a higher energy state, but the transition back to a lower energy state occurs much more slowly and the direction of the electron spin may change. Phosphorescent materials may appear to glow for several seconds up to a couple of days after the light has been turned off. The reason phosphorescence lasts longer than fluorescence is because the excited electrons jump to a higher energy level than for fluorescence. The electrons have more energy to lose and may spend time at different energy levels between the excited state and the ground state.
If the artificial stem cell nanotech is designed for Yautja physiology and biological processes, then it could potentially support the replenishment of their cells indefinitely before other entropic forces eventually broke down the system's functioning. Perhaps for Yautja it is indeed not the Years, but just the Mileage.
Being not designed specifically for human physiology, but adaptable enough to function with cells in that foreign environment, the artificial cells could very well function when introduced in the high doses one would receive from eating a Yautja heart perhaps. But, not possessing of the natural Yautja biological functioning which would normally consistently recharge the cells internally, the artificially produced stem cells would run out of their charge and replenishment ability much faster without external UV stimulation, stimulation that Yautja biology is perhaps adapted to but which is inherently harmful to human biology through the damage it inflicts to our DNA.
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan??? :laugh:
Also did anybody else hear what dutch says in the bar about the female predator?
He says she's way more skilled than anything he's come up against and observes her like
"As close to royalty as their kind has"
Could be the first time we ever saw a matriarch in lore! ;D
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan??? :laugh:
Boo this man !
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan??? :laugh:
lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?. So I think my Predator fan card is still in good standing. :D. I was planning to read it after seeing the movie, but once I saw the film a second time, I couldn't bring myself to do it, to read anything attached to that.
But I'm not the biggest reader, I'm trying to change that, but I'm more a comic guy... read every Predator comic, not every Predator novel... but here's my current limited library (excluding Alien & AvP novels).
(https://i.ibb.co/bR7P2xq/IMG-20200808-074657.jpg)
It's not every Predator novel I own. For instance, I know that I have the Predator novelization somewhere around the house. And looking at these, it is amazing that the Predator 2 novelization, Turnabout and China Sea is collectively worth $250 on a good day.
Yeah I'm jealous, you have China Sea
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 08, 2020, 01:42:02 PM
Yeah I'm jealous, you have China Sea
It seems to have become the Predator novel holy grail hasn't it. I wonder what Hicks' signed copies would fetch him! :o
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan??? :laugh:
lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?...
Excuses, excuses
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA
Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6e978fda039f399be6fb13d57ad5efd1/tenor.gif)
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem
(https://i.imgur.com/S3moz3d.gif?noredirect)
Excuses indeed :D but seriously it's a good novel and based on your bookshelf the only Predator story you haven't read yet! Other than Stargazer, the book has little to do with the film so no need to worry there.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6e978fda039f399be6fb13d57ad5efd1/tenor.gif
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem
https://i.imgur.com/S3moz3d.gif?noredirect
Haha! Yessss! Perfect gif. That Imagine Dragons "Radioactive" video is the finest exhibition since "Sonnie's Edge" from Love, Death, and Robots. Lou Diamond Phillips would have made a dope Enoch Nakai back in the day.
Quote from: SpaceKase on Aug 09, 2020, 06:29:53 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6e978fda039f399be6fb13d57ad5efd1/tenor.gif
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem
https://i.imgur.com/S3moz3d.gif?noredirect
Haha! Yessss! Perfect gif. That Imagine Dragons "Radioactive" video is the finest exhibition since "Sonnie's Edge" from Love, Death, and Robots. Lou Diamond Phillips would have made a dope Enoch Nakai back in the day.
He would've been perfect for Enoch!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan??? :laugh:
lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?
It's a significantly better story than The Predator as well.
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all. Shows how much better the predator could have been
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all. Shows how much better the predator could have been
I only have one gripe and it's actually not even something I care about that much, spoilers ahead!
Spoiler
He skins and eats a dude's leg. I mean that's fine i guess, just don't remember Yautja eating humans before this book lol
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 10, 2020, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all. Shows how much better the predator could have been
I only have one gripe and it's actually not even something I care about that much, spoilers ahead!
Spoiler
He skins and eats a dude's leg. I mean that's fine i guess, just don't remember Yautja eating humans before this book lol
That was indeed very odd...lol
I chalked it up to desperation given recent events
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 10, 2020, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan??? :laugh:
lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?
It's a significantly better story than The Predator as well.
Yeah I heard. Eventually I'll make the plunge and read it. The Predator novelization too which I heard wonderful things about *sarcasm*.
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all. Shows how much better the predator could have been
Other than the slightly dumb/nonsensical Predator escape, it was a great read.
Still made more sense than the Predator just deciding to get up in the film though.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 11, 2020, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all. Shows how much better the predator could have been
Other than the slightly dumb/nonsensical Predator escape, it was a great read.
Still made more sense than the Predator just deciding to get up in the film though.
Yeah, that part in the book was odd and a little confusing. Really didn't make a lot of sense